I give up.

I gave up on Elden ring 6 months ago. I'm stuck on this boss and I refuse to use spirit summons or any kind of summon. I haven't even finished the game, I'm level 148 and I give up, again. This boss is literally impossible. That Waterfowl attack is just impossible to dodge, even if you manage to do so, second phase is just unforgivable.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ever try Blocking or Parrying moron?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      not them, but the parrying in Elden Ring feels out of sync with animations, the timings are not intuitive.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you refusing to use summons when the bosses are designed for them? I beat her on my own the first time because I didn't even know you could use them. The game doesn't tell you shit which is bad design. Regardless I was able to enjoy it once I could use summons. Literally just use them. And waterfowl isn't meant to be dodged except for the second flury. You have to run away.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      None of the bosses are designed with summons in mind, not even the 2v1 bosses.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the bosses are. And this has less play viable playstyles than darksoul1

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        All major bosses and certain areas of the game are designed for summons. That's why the summon symbol appears during upcoming conflicts. There's few scenarios where you can't use them, as the enemy is fair 1v1. Blaidd's shadow for example. If you manage to beat a boss "solo", great, but you are handicapped nonetheless.

        the game literally tells you about summons when you pick up the items that involve summoning near the start of the game, moron.

        I don't remember it saying that at all. I didn't even know you could use the horse for the longest time. The game doesn't tell you that you have to have in your quick select menu, etc. Of course, a lot of this has to do with a lack of a quest log. Perhaps if I would've remembered Melenia told me about Torrent, I would've used him sooner, but I went off and did my own thing. Bad game design.

        Nu Ganker has this weird dick measuring contest involving various games and using things in them. As someone who completely forgets summons exist and forget a prayerbook and boss up until my 5th playthrough it really is up to the player how much they want to invest in victory.

        All of their arguments are invalid because I could always tell them that if they didn't beat the game at level 1, unarmed, and without armor, they didn't actually beat it. They're crushed by their own logic.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They're crushed by their own logic.
          Or they're just setting restrictions to ensure the fight is enjoyable to overcome. If you are not getting a certain level of challenge, you don't get the full enjoyment of overcoming it. If it's too challenging or too easy, you don't feel good winning. The entire game is designed around this.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most videogames have difficulty sliders to prevent this sort of thing. None of Fromsoft's games were unsuccessful because they refuse to evolve and utilize what works. Elden Ring just so happened to be open world. It's a popular normie theme. The complaints of the game outweighed the praise in the end.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Elden Ring's difficulty slider is built into the decisions you make in gameplay. That is infinitely better than a difficulty slider in a menu.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, so according to your logic, I'm literally better than anyone here as I beat the entire game with the worst colossal in the game, prepatch, and under level 60. I didn't even use Torrent until the fire giant. I only used the summons on Radahn because it was an obvious feature. I'm better than you, and my opinion matters more. Slippery slope argument there, drone.

                >instead of relying on mechanical skill you can use summons
                its implying that you can rely on mechanical skill, which you can. sorry you have boomer tier reflexes and think you need to use trial and error instead of just your reflexes boomer but the game is balanced in almost every case around not using summons and having them is a bonus.

                >boomer reflexes
                The game punishes good reflexes and reaction time, hence the input lag. Artificial difficulty is bad game design. You have to press a button an entire second before you would normally dodge to compensate for input lag. Bad game design.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ok, so according to your logic, I'm literally better than anyone here
                No you're a moron. The only person you compete with when you play these games is your past self.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You have to press a button an entire second before you would normally dodge
                check your game/controller. thats not a thing i deal with, sounds like something on your end.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                brainrot post

                Concession accepted.

                Use bleed, frost or takers flame you fricking homosexual.

                There are plenty of fromdrones that claim this is cheating.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There are plenty of fromdrones that claim this is cheating.
                >caring
                please have a nice day

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a full second
                >its actually one one hundredth of a second
                so you were close, only wrong in orders of magnitude of 100.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >All major bosses and certain areas of the game are designed for summons.
          wrong. They designed them to be compelling 1v1 encounters. they added summons as an accessibility option so casuals would have a way to beat the game without getting frustrated like OP.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's acknowledging that using magic and summons are common sense, or strategy as he puts it. Instead of trial and error with 100+ deaths. You just proved my point.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >instead of relying on mechanical skill you can use summons
              its implying that you can rely on mechanical skill, which you can. sorry you have boomer tier reflexes and think you need to use trial and error instead of just your reflexes boomer but the game is balanced in almost every case around not using summons and having them is a bonus.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it implies that you can rely on mechanical skill. It doesn’t imply that relying solely on mechanical skill is expected of the player. On the contrary, it’s clearly stated that a strategic approach is emphasized.
                If anything, the logical conclusion is that From expects the player to use spirit ashes to beat the bosses. If this somehow breaks the bosses (it doesn’t), the game is poorly balanced.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, a boss that's designed for spirits means you "need" them and playing solo is "unreasonably hard or tedious".
          But none of the bosses in ER are even remotely like that, even 2v1 ones have AI that prevents them from both attacking at once and one is generally way more agreesive and in your face while the other slow walks and ocasionally does an attack.

          Just like COOP, spirits are there as an optional crutch.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >game ensure you have the ability to summon for every boss fight
        >the game isn’t balanced around summons!
        Reminder these games were never intended to be hard and the difficulty is balanced around the mechanical skill and reaction speed of a fifty year old man. You might find the game too easy with summons, but that is the default intended difficulty. Not using summons is a challenge run.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not using summons is a challenge run.

          Ok, but the bosses are designed to be fair even in solo, you don't need summons to have openings even in the 2v1 fights.
          So they were tested/balanced for solo, then had summons added in as crutch for brainlets.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you fought Godskin Duo? Without summons the fight turns into a comedy routine befitting of the Benny Hill theme where you run around in circles waiting for them to separate long enough for you to get one or two hits in before they’re together again and you’re back to running around the perimeter of the arena, rinse and repeat about fifty times. It’s the exact same as O&S, another fight obviously balanced around being a 2v2 with Solaire.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not true, if you were good at the game you could parry the fat one, turns the fight quite managable

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >parry fat one
                >skinny one hits you before you can repost
                Thanks genius I never thought of that.

                No, one of them will sprint and one of then will slow walk, they separate themselves far faster than O&S.
                All the 2v1 bosses literally have AI that prevents them from attacking withing the same 4-5 second period.

                Yes I noticed and it’s extremely inconsistent. Sometimes they just ignore this and attack simultaneously anyway.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, one of them will sprint and one of then will slow walk, they separate themselves far faster than O&S.
              All the 2v1 bosses literally have AI that prevents them from attacking withing the same 4-5 second period.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Obviously bosses might've been playtested to some degree but how do you know they comply to your definition of "fair" when balancing the fight?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fair = bosses have openings big enough that all weapon classe can get hits in w/o the boss being distracted by summons/spirits.
              Also, obviously you can roll every attack if timed corectly unless you're fatrolling, then a few attacks might be too much, but not most.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's just your assumption, it's an arbitrary definition based on general observations about the game. You can technically do a lot of weird things in FROM games like clear the game at SL1 or play them without taking damage at all, or without rolling, or using only consumables. Is it balanced around those things? Doubtful. What we assume is "fair" might not even be a part of the equation for the playtesters or people responsible for balance.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's been obvious in every souls game after DeS and DS1that they polish these bosses for each weapon class.
                That's why we don't have shit like this anymore.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >bosses might've been playtested to some degree

              LMAO, Souls bosses are literally frame counted for each of its 10-15 attacks that and (re)adjusted 20 times before it makes it into the final game so that none of the 25+ weapon classes and spells are either insanely easymode or insanely unreasonably hard or tedious.
              Only exception being using elemental spells or physical damage type the boss is resistant to like fire on a lava boss or slashing on an armored boss, and even then you'll just do 50% normal damage, way harder but not extreme bullshit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so that none of the 25+ weapon classes and spells are either insanely easymode or insanely unreasonably hard or tedious
                That's bullshit and you know it, just look at magic in DeS and DS1. Or generally at how easy it is to break these games.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                DS1 and DeS are far worse than any of the sequels in terms of how east it is to break things, especially des with 99 heals and 99 mana consumables.
                You can literally SL1 the game and nuke bosses with a poise/magic build with less effort than it takes to beat Mergit on a regular ER run.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                nah ER is really easy to break

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >maxed out +25 weapons in a +12 to +15 area, overleveled character
                By that logic DS1 is skilless because you can get +15 before fighting most of the bosses.

                Meanwhile in DS1 you can 4 shot bosses at SL1.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                your DeS webm is stacking like 5 different damage boosts that require you to be at low health which obviously no average player is gonna do

                your DaS1 webm is using full smoughs, grass crest shield and a random drop black knight weapon that most players will not have access to

                meanwhile you can break ER by just using one of your infinite free summons and randomly spamming moonveil or magic

                ER is also the 7th game in the series, not the first one, so there's really no excuse

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The game would be better if you could only use each Spirit ash once per Journey

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                DeS damage boosts are irrelevant.
                The real issue is moronic infinite stunlocks.
                Even with regular damage, you'd beat the boss identically, it would just take 3-4 sessions of stunlocking to do it.

                And there's only 2 buffs in the game that activate at low HP, Morion Blade and Clever Rat Ring.
                The problem is that unlike DS2, DS3, ER, it's a 50% damage increase for each at 30% HP, meanwhiile in future games it's 25%.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the game literally tells you about summons when you pick up the items that involve summoning near the start of the game, moron.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nu Ganker has this weird dick measuring contest involving various games and using things in them. As someone who completely forgets summons exist and forget a prayerbook and boss up until my 5th playthrough it really is up to the player how much they want to invest in victory.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      All the bosses are. And this has less play viable playstyles than darksoul1

      Nu Ganker has this weird dick measuring contest involving various games and using things in them. As someone who completely forgets summons exist and forget a prayerbook and boss up until my 5th playthrough it really is up to the player how much they want to invest in victory.

      What the frick you morons about. Bosses aren't designed with summon in mind as some summons can even solo some bosses.

      Also people try to avoid using summons because they want to take bosses with their own inputs without relying on an AI for support.
      I can agree that some players push it too far (not using X weapons or Y Strategies) but summons break the boss difficulty by giving you room to heal for example

      https://i.imgur.com/70pZiAD.jpg

      I gave up on Elden ring 6 months ago. I'm stuck on this boss and I refuse to use spirit summons or any kind of summon. I haven't even finished the game, I'm level 148 and I give up, again. This boss is literally impossible. That Waterfowl attack is just impossible to dodge, even if you manage to do so, second phase is just unforgivable.

      Use help and summons moron, that boss is the only boss in the game who break her animations to attack you and ignore the poise rules every soul games followed. She's cheating and so should you

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        All bosses are designed for summons. Hence the bad controls and overturned attacks from the enemies. If there wasn't any input lag and clunky animations, the bosses would be fair. It's obvious that the input lag and animations are there to artificially make the game harder. Otherwise nobody would complain about the difficulty. Difficulty in Elden Ring is completely fake.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Go Frick yourself, the input lag is meant is meant to counter rollgay who keep spamming as soon as they see thé boss move a finger

          Bosses aren't designed with summons just like how dark soul bosses weren't designed with multiplayer

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Input lag is objectively bad no matter what game we're talking about. According to other fromdrones, input lag actually didn't exist in previous Souls games. Elden Ring has input lag to artificially inflate the game's difficulty. If the game didn't have input lag, you'd barely hear complaints. Most bosses are "unfair" because you're punished for having good reaction time. Bad game design.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you're punished for having good reaction time
              helm im being trolled!

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            they should pay your for running defense for their shitty design decisions. the boss animations in elden ring feel like they were designed by a fat frick that has no concept of how bodies move or weight behaves in motion, especially when lifted.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              The normal dodge in Bloodborne is bloodhound step in Elden Ring.
              Lol

              accepted
              >literally allows anonymous people on the internet to dictate how he plays a game he paid for

              Yeah... you probably should have a nice day.

              I warned you, fromboy. I gave you the opportunity to post credentials or no more yous. Now I have to treat you like a child and ignore you as you think about your actions. You get to sit in timeout while the adults talk. Have a nice day.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Every boss is easily beteable solo without summons you are just bad if you cry about bosses being impossible without summon, the only reasonable boss I could see someone cry about is Malenia, she's kinda bullshit but otherwise every other boss is kinda easy when you learn the game.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Use help and summons moron, that boss is the only boss in the game who break her animations to attack you and ignore the poise rules every soul games followed. She's cheating and so should you
        wrong and moronic. you morons need to stop parroting this moronic shit. fricking morons.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's been a year, stop coping she recover from poise damage and it has been already proven

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is a necessary mechanic otherwise you’d be able to stunlock her to death (which is still possible anyway but shh) and people would complain that the optional super boss isn’t hard enough.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >This is a necessary mechanic
              They managed fine without it in their previous games.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Bosses aren't designed with summon
        Are you saying that Fromsoft, who has had summoned helpers in their last 6 games, human and NPC, now adds the ability to pick your npc summon and Im supposed to believe there was no design consideration for their participation in boss fights?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just like any fromsoft game, bosses are first designed being able to solo the player, summons/NPC can distract the boss letting you heal without consequences.

          I would Say some bosses might be tought with a story related NPC in mind but there no fricking way the devs tought about every mix of bosses and summons
          For one example Rykard is not designed with summons in mind, some might survive longer than other but it's clearly meant to be defeated with the snake Sword arts

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh vidya is serious business!
        no one cares, loser.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      brainrot post

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I gave up on Elden ring
    Yeah, it is pretty shit. Zelda is so much better.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      LOL
      LMAO

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's shrimple, I go to from threads to shit on them and praise tendoschlop.
        I go to zeldaschlop threads to shit on it and praise fromschlop.
        It's a living.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're overleveled, delete character and try again, don't go over 125.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry kiddo, SL150 is the meta level. Get fricked.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's still 125 actually, 150 was considered at the start because of the extreme damage of buff+weapon arts needing 60VIG but those were reduced later, especially when they detached PvE damage scaling from PvP.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          shut the frick up homosexual. only duel morons think the meta should be 125. All the dipshit normies and redditors never stop leveling.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Still 125
          Was always 150. The meta level for Demons, DS1, and DS3 is 125 as that allows to hit all softcaps + having comfortable stats. The meta in DS2 and ER is 150 for the same reasons. Hybrid builds are absolute garbage at 125 and strength dominates 125 harder than it does at 150. How boring.

          It's nearly irrelevant anyways since the PVP scene is nearly dead in ER due to the terrible high level PVP. It's not nearly as good as DS3 or DS2 was.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's nearly irrelevant anyways since the PVP scene is nearly dead in ER

            It's far more active than DS3's ever was and DS3 still has near instant invasions in the endgame and DLC areas even in 2021.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              DS3 was far more active due to the smaller world. Even with the wex dust change, Elden Ring has such a shitty invasion system that the activity has drastically declined. It's also difficult to find any coop due to the mod being so much better.

              Who the frick thought that having 1 invasion slot and 4 player max in OPEN WORLD invasions would be a good idea. Gross. Long gone are the megafun days of invading and team battles in DS3.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Omitting the covenant defense areas or a Spear of the Church type boss was such an egregious oversight.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most of the invasions are concentrated in legacy dungeons because ppl don't summon in the world besides a few frickers like the Dragons, Rot Avatars and Draconic Tree Sentinel.

                You can still have 2v2 team battles in ER if you use the finger and summon one player.
                And if you use the finger while solo, you don't get a 2v1 invasion bullshit anymore like DS3, just a constant stream of 1v1 invasions every 5-10 mins.
                I played my 3nd run with the finger on half the time and it was fantastic.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And if you use the finger while solo, you don't get a 2v1 invasion bullshit anymore like DS3, just a constant stream of 1v1 invasions every 5-10 mins.
                No, you get them back to back to back. Without any cooldown, it is not "ever 5-10 minutes". You will not make any progress with tongue up.
                Unless they changed it in the last year of course.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It really depends on the area, you level and weapon upgrade.
                Sometimes they're constant, sometimes it takes a bit.
                However if they're too frequent, just deactivate the tongue and give yourself a 10m break afrer each invader you kill.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe, I tried it when the game was new in Academy and then again in the capital. I couldn't get away from the bonfire due to constant invasions. Even if I win, 10 seconds later I get another one. I have no idea why they made it like this, old system with a cooldown was perfect.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              DS2 still has the best pvp of all the souls games.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                DS2 pioneered all the good PvP mechanics but DS3 and ER reused and improved them.
                Really nice how ER brought back strong poison builds.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Git gud

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    get a shield with 100% physical negation, block the first wave, roll through the second then just backpaddle a bit and watch the 3rd
    also she does the move at certain health breakpoints, watch out for those

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's an optional boss
    you skipped out going into that one cave before too
    you know that one? oh you don't? yeah then just forget this boss like you forgot that cave

    frick the completionism mindset

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    STR chads make her kneel.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep at it. I died aroun 70 or 80 times to this. Locked myself at lvl 100 and refused to use great runes or summons too. Go for runs where you try to learn something specific, don't always try to "beat" her. For example, learn how to dodge the waterfowl bullshit. Try different weapons, try different moves. Position yourself at a different distance when you expect that attack, instead of trying to dodge, move or even block. Keep at it. Second phase was easier for me, because she stays still for a couple of times and you can deal massive damage then.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried attacking her without getting hit?

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    just silver tear
    homie
    like
    lmao
    just silver tear and spit roast lol

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mimic is shit against Malenia, it'll barely keep her busy for 30 seconds and let you do 20% "free" damage to the phase 1 before she demolishes it.
      Better to just man up and learn to properly dodge and not rollspam like a monkey.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just give him any colossal weapon with Lion's claw and the fight will become stunlock/poise break fest. It may sucks in PvP but most enemies in PvE usually can't stand more than 2 hits before breaking poise.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    this fight has no respect for the player, you should have no respect for it. summon Tiche and bust out the dual katanas.
    by break point was when I realize she still heals even if you successfully avoid her attacks via i-frames. as long as her sword makes contact with your character, regardless of damage, she heals. I have no idea what they thought releasing the game with her like this

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Beat her on my 4th try with mimic and double whip (so quadruple whip). I stunlocked her until second phase.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also first whip with bleed stack and second one with frost stack.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    just play aggressive and trade with her bro
    heres me doing it

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I beat it with a longsword and a kite shield, no summons or ashes of war. If I can do it so can you.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shield
      you didn't beat her

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no ashes of war
      Sounds like as terribly boring way to play

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not impossible. There is a pretty consistent way to dodge the blade dance. You just need ti figure it out

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Summons are one of the rewards for exploring. If you use a good summon (without using a wiki to find it), you've earned it because you found it. And most summons are pretty shit.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just came here to tell you OP, you're a loser and you should try to farm replies on reddit with your shit.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    All the weakminded fools telling OP to use summons. You may beat her like that OP but will you actually FEEL like you did?
    You know the answer

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      game says she dead

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I got the achievement and her homosexual sword. Just the same as some sperg who bear her RL1 unupgraded club no armor

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I play stealth games. The whole concept of stealth is that when you can't defeat an enemy in direct combat, you refuse to engage on the enemy's terms and stab them in the back without giving them the chance to return fire. Every time an opponent dies because I cheated them out of their glorious duel, it doesn't just feel like victory. It feels like I outsmarted them. They wanted to play a game with rules, and I said no, then killed them in a way they don't like. I brought the gun into the sword fight, and they were stupid enough to not do the same. In Sekiro, Isshin understands this, and does exactly what I do. Honor is always only a weakness to exploit in others, never a virtue to venerate in self.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >will you actually FEEL like you did?
      Hmm yes?

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just get over it and start summoning. At some point I just really stopped liking Souls bosses, so in Bloodborne I summoned for that horse guy and probably someone else, I forget what his name was. I just want to see the next areas, not fight the same guy in an arena. Also summoned for some boss in Nioh. The bosses are just something you have to do before getting to the next place, they don't usually really offer anything new or different

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Malenia is broken and cheats the game's mechanics. Don't feel bad about not killing her.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cheats the game's mechanics.
      no she doesnt. lmao

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        based moron

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          She actively ignores the game's rules regarding poise and stagger. She's a cheating c**t.

          wrong

          No im actually smart and understand the game mechanics more than you morons or that other uidiot who made a youtube video. I wish a was stupid like you fricking animals so i wouldnt have to understand just how fricking dumb you cretinous vermin actually are because talking to you idiots is a form of fricking torture.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No you're wrong. I have tested everything myself and Malenia is a cheater.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            lotta words for a dipshit in denial lmao

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              git gud

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        She actively ignores the game's rules regarding poise and stagger. She's a cheating c**t.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not at all, a bunch of bosses have certain attacks and animations (like phase transitins) that prevent a stagger even if posture broken, you have to attack again after they reach 0 posture to initiate it for real.
          Malenia does this with many of her attacks, but has the lowest posture out of many endgame bosses.
          Because it would be dumb if she had more than fricking Radahn and even worse w/o this mechanics if you could chain posture break her like webm related.

          You just have to do 1 extra attack after she gets to 0 posture but time it so it's not when she's in hyperarmor, not hard once you figure it out.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            posted all this bullshit to still be wrong fricking KEK

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cope.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      She actively ignores the game's rules regarding poise and stagger. She's a cheating c**t.

      Whatever lets you scrubs cope in peace.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they were designed with summons with mind they wouldn't be possible to beat without them. Summons are a crutch, stop coping.
    You only get to claim a boss is badly designed after you've beaten it fair and square

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post a video of you beating the game level 1, unarmed, and without armor. And if you die, you have to start over. Also, you can't use flasks during boss fights. If you can't provide this evidence, then your post remains invalid. Your only other alternative is to post your body to prove the average fromdrone isn't the stereotype.

      Every boss is easily beteable solo without summons you are just bad if you cry about bosses being impossible without summon, the only reasonable boss I could see someone cry about is Malenia, she's kinda bullshit but otherwise every other boss is kinda easy when you learn the game.

      I beat every boss solo and without summons as stated earlier.

      >Ok, so according to your logic, I'm literally better than anyone here
      No you're a moron. The only person you compete with when you play these games is your past self.

      This fromdrone has completely lost it lol.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Post a video of you beating the game level 1, unarmed, and without armor. And if you die, you have to start over. Also, you can't use flasks during boss fights. If you can't provide this evidence, then your post remains invalid.
        What a moronic cope. You can use whatever you want to give you an advantage, it's not the same thing as letting the game play itself for you

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Upgrading your weapons, leveling up, etc is letting the game play itself for you. You should be able to beat every boss at level 1, unarmed, and without armor. Again, if you can't post a video or a picture of your body, then you aren't getting any more yous as it'll be a form of concession. Your move.

          >There are plenty of fromdrones that claim this is cheating.
          >caring
          please have a nice day

          Concession accepted

          >a full second
          >its actually one one hundredth of a second
          so you were close, only wrong in orders of magnitude of 100.

          That was on PC. But at the least you've acknowledged it exists. You're more of a man than the rest of these fromdrones despite your pride not allowing you to admit your fault and copes. But still half a man regardless.

          Why the frick does Ganker have such a massive shitfit over playing souls games a particular way?
          With literally any other game it's fine but for some reason Souls is the "you didn't beat the game" game.

          Fromdrones are a very small percentage of gamers that base their Identities around playing fromslop. Similar to homosexuals that base their Identities around anal sex. Elden Ring just allowed them to get more rabid than usual. They don't represent everyone else, moron.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            accepted
            >literally allows anonymous people on the internet to dictate how he plays a game he paid for

            Yeah... you probably should have a nice day.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Upgrading your weapons, leveling up, etc is letting the game play itself for you.
            You're just digging a bigger hole with this silly logic. Go ahead upgrade the weapons and armor to the max, and just stand there without doing anything or touching the controller and see how well you fare.
            >>boss kills me in 1-3 hits, I need to hit them 10-30 times depending on boss
            Bosses also don't have healing items, they follow set patterns that can be exploited while you can move however you want and use whatever weapon you want.You have access to many different options while the boss only has a few

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You set the standard, fromdrone. If you didn't beat the game at level 1, unarmed, and without armor, then you didn't beat the game. I agree it's silly logic. But it's your logic. It's fromdrone logic.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You set the standard, fromdrone.
                No, I didn't. Summons are the only thing I've been against, you're the one stretching that to mechanics that aren't autoplay.
                This whole "didn't beat the game" meme literally comes from people trying to create a false equivalence between using summons and other mechanics in the game in order to feel better about how they beat the game.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >to feel better about how they beat the game.
                Most of the people arguing for these arbitrary rules of "beating the game" don't actually play it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're no different than people that claim you didn't beat the game, and take the meme literally. They have their standard. You have yours. But both of you have arbitrary rules and spew your homosexualry to others. This is why fromslop produces failed games because you can never pull a population. Somebody asks for advice, and people like you come along. And players leave. Be thankful it's an open world and you fromdrones got some degree of notoriety. Fortunately, everybody that wasn't on gamefaqs back then, or normies in general, are able to see what fromdrones are like for the first time. Notice how you're in the minority now unlike the first few months of release? You're going back in the dark like after Souls2.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >boss has 30x more health than me
      >boss kills me in 1-3 hits, I need to hit them 10-30 times depending on boss
      bosses don't play fair so why should I?

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want a mod where instead of “I am Melina blade of miquella” she explains sneed instead

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i chuckled

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Use bleed, frost or takers flame you fricking homosexual.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick does Ganker have such a massive shitfit over playing souls games a particular way?
    With literally any other game it's fine but for some reason Souls is the "you didn't beat the game" game.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You posted this before you dumb c**t here's your (you)

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > That Waterfowl attack is just impossible to dodge.
    The moment she jumps to do the waterfowl dance, you run backwards. you roll towards her the moment she does the second flurry attack. Once you do that, the third time is easily avoidable.
    >Second phase is just unforgivable
    Just have patience and run around until there's an opening. For example the blooming attack. Once she blooms, run towards her and attack.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here. I fricking did it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Congratulations man.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a higher quality pic? I wanna use it as wallpaper

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/048/702/502/large/christian-angel-melrtw150.jpg?1650709537

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just what I was looking for. Thanks, anon.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't count because you have bad fashion.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking grats man. Well done.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol
    lol lol
    git gud

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      posting a video of essentially the top 0.1% of pve players doesn't really prove anything

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >posting a video of essentially the top 0.1%
        Literally my first souls game and I can do the exact same thing, troony.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            🙁

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          post proof then

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post proof

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >top 0.1% of pve players
        What does that mean? He's not doing anything supernatural there. What prevents you from playing like that?

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only boss I summoned for is godskin duo because frick those guys

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just use sleeping pots.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >try fighting them a few times
        >alright I'll just come back later
        >15 levels later and I kill the first gargoyle before the second one can do shit
        I'd rather fight 100 Valiant Gargoyles than these Godskin dipshits

        Literally [...]

        I like fighting Godskins for their theme song alone.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Understandable. This game has some good tracks.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just got to them today and I can already tell this is going to be the most unfun fight in the whole game after 3 attempts

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ENTER

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This fight is just two 1v1s if you have decent damage.
          I posture broke #1 while #2 flew in then by the time they did a few attacks, I yolo'd #1.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >try fighting them a few times
          >alright I'll just come back later
          >15 levels later and I kill the first gargoyle before the second one can do shit
          I'd rather fight 100 Valiant Gargoyles than these Godskin dipshits

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally

            Just use sleeping pots.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'll probably fight them a few more times and then just do that if I get annoyed in the end

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's optional, just go finish the game.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've only summoned Mimic Tear for Mimic tear because I thought it would be funny.

    it was...

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jej so do I.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I did it on my second run because I thought going naked and fighting with my fists only against the mimmick would be fun shit. Turns out it took me almost 2 hours and I just gave up in doing a fair fight in the end.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for the DLC.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You and me.
      Hope we get Miquella's mending rune for a new interesting ending.
      And I can only hope to see prime Godwyn.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        We're gonna get fish monster Demigod Prince of Death Godwyn, imagine the phases.

        >1st Phase: Godwyn, Prince of Death
        >2nd Phase: Godwyn The Golden
        >3rd Phase: Godwyn of the Crucible

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        We're gonna get fish monster Demigod Prince of Death Godwyn, imagine the phases.

        >1st Phase: Godwyn, Prince of Death
        >2nd Phase: Godwyn The Golden
        >3rd Phase: Godwyn of the Crucible

        Also hope we get to fight the Gloam Eyed Queen with the full power of Destined Death.

        and a new version of Melania is all but confirmed

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Godwins spines got fly wings on them and that shit is gross.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, Godwyn got fricked up pretty badly.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Godwins spines got fly wings on them and that shit is gross.

              You and me.
              Hope we get Miquella's mending rune for a new interesting ending.
              And I can only hope to see prime Godwyn.

              Why did Ranni kill the most decent demigod there was. She doesn't even feel any remorse.
              What a fricking b***h.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Miquella is pretty decent too.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                True.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe she was tricked. Or maybe she just needed a Demi-god killed and the Black Knives wanted it to be Godwyn but Ranni betrayed them by killing herself at the same time and then imprisoned their leader.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                the dark moon cannot exist with a brighter sun

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                She probably needed another demigod killed to rid herself of her empyrian flesh. It's suggested that Marika might have been in on the scheme so the god queen might have personally recommend Ranni target Godwyn.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's possible the Ranni didn't target Godwyn at all. And if Miquella really is Torrent's former master she might have connections with him also.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Et tu, Ranni?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kill Radahn? Who cares hes respected and feared but both his parents couldnt give ten shits. Rykard? Oh no Tanith is weeping! Ranni? Outside of talent she is a charisma void. Mohg and Morgott are Omen and either unreachable or hard to kill. Godrick? Pfft. Godwyn and Miquella were the most loved demigods but good luck getting to Miquella when Malenia is on him 24:7. Godwyn did the most. He is the only successful child of Marika/Godfrey, stopped a war between dragons and mankind, was proficient in Golden Order incantations and so on.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                She could've killed Godwyn's dog shit offspring like Godrick or Godefroy.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You dont kill people who nobody will miss you kill someone whos death will create a ripple effect. The fact that Maliketh is eating Deathroot in his own misery, Marika shattered the ER and even the crazy finger crones mourn him is proof of that.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Outside of Waterfowl, Malenia is piss easy, Mohg, Fire giant and Maliketh all fricked me harder. Malenia staggers so easy it's insane.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bro it took me 12 try with my dagger build

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oogies

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've literally never even seen her second form because the first time I beat her second phase health magically went from 100 to 0 for some reason

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I literally used summon on most the boss I encounter

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ludwig and Maria were unironically harder.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      kos is easier than malenia
      laurcence is harder than kos
      because it's 15fps or less on 3rd phase

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    Malenia is overdesigned garbage we all know that. It's proof that from gave up on the design philosophy that Myazaki has to be able to solo a boss without taking damage to check if it's fair.

    If you don't want to summon for her than you should overlevel and get so much damage that you can kill her before she does anything.

    Even people who can do her naked no hit rune level one agree she's just badly designed with RNG mechanics like lmao frick you I can just dodge your attack with no warning.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/70pZiAD.jpg

      I gave up on Elden ring 6 months ago. I'm stuck on this boss and I refuse to use spirit summons or any kind of summon. I haven't even finished the game, I'm level 148 and I give up, again. This boss is literally impossible. That Waterfowl attack is just impossible to dodge, even if you manage to do so, second phase is just unforgivable.

      That's why you have to install the Reforged mod :^)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't say overdesigned, I just think she's deliberately unfair in one particular way. Take out Waterfowl dance and her boss fight is infinitely easier.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, she'd still be bullshit. First by basically hard countering shield builds. No other boss on from soft's line up counters one character build that hard. Next is her RNG dodge (though to be fair this is mainly bullshit BECAUSE of the lifesteal and waterfowl dance).

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Hard counter
          Except shields still absolutely frick her over.
          Especially going hard on heavy shields because she doesn't do enough damage to break their guard
          Ganker as usual has no idea what its talking about

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >First by basically hard countering shield builds. No other boss on from soft's line up counters one character build that hard.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you aren't a strengthlet use a shield

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Malenia there’s a knee on my neck!

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many time you dies while fighting her bro

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    with the amount of broken shit that was in this game (when i played, maybe its since been patched) the main factor determining success or failure isnt even skill but stubborn refusal to use all the tools at your disposal. i should know, i used a holy build and refused to respec in spite of all the holy resistant bosses near the end. i still beat malenia and i think you can too but i suggest you consider that your character may be built like shit and that you might want to fix that if so

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >glitch up a rock
    >spam flies
    ez

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy mother of filtered
    Just get a Switch bro

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Filtered
      But OP did it.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just jump bonked her with a great hammer.
    Took a few tries but it worked pretty well for me.

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This b***h took me a full week to beat and in the end I had to look up how to use BHS to completely skip her waterfowl, she's a moronic fight and fromsoft are Black folk for putting her in the game

    t. 1000+ hours in ER but only beat this wretched prostitute once

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >BHS spammer, pre-nerf
      Didn't beat her for real

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I know, I don't give a shit.

        I also never even entered the boss room of the duo cat bossfight in Frigid outskirts despite me having played DS2 on and off for half a decade with many dozens of completed playthroughs.

        I love fromsoft games but I wont bend over to moronic game design.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skill issue.

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >soulsgay elitism
    Kek, no wonder Elden Ring multiplayer is dead.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are you talking about?
      I get constant invasions at nearly every level/weapon upgrade tier.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I refuse to use spirit summons or any kind of summon
    Because you're a moronic Gankertard who refuses to play the game it was designed to be played.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP but summons make this fight go from impossible to easy as frick, why even do the "wow le hard endgame boss" if you're just gonna get a cheap win?

      Not defending elitist autism btw, Malenia sucks dick and if you just want to 100% the game then you're completely justified to go into CE and set her HP to 0

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Malenia sucks dick and if you just want to 100% the game then you're completely justified to go into CE and set her HP to 0

        If you're disabled, why not just watch the game on twitch or yourube?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's that supposed to mean?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Insane post, why not just agree with me then you pedantic frick

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is a discussion forum you fricking monkey, I agree with you but that doesn't mean I can't explain to you why someone else may have a different perspective.

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Use a shield for waterfowl. The first volley is the deadliest part. Block the first volley, dodge the second and third. People get tricked by the healing into thinking blocking is detrimental against her but at that point in the game you should have enough damage to outweigh her healing.

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm willing bet that some of the new Remembrance bosses in the DLC are gonna be accessed via things left over by bosses you killed or things in their boss rooms.

    >Mohg- Miquellas Cocoon
    >Malenia-Scarlet Flower
    >Rykard- Head being eaten by his wife
    >Fortissax-Godwyn's Corpse
    >Radagon- Marika's corpse
    Just like the Fortissax fight we'll probably have to touch them to enter their dreams.

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, she's not too awful. I do think she has way too much shit going on for how your character controls, but once you "understand" how her attacks work (aka how her waterfowl works) its not as bad.
    Still a moronic move that she can use though. I actually found phase 2 super easy in comparison to phase 1.

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deenh and Tricia are the best summons for people who think summons make the game too easy. Nobody is forcing you to use the OP summons capable of soloing bosses.

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Waterfowl is moronic simply because it’s basically necessary to look up how to dodge it, you’re not figuring out that convoluted bullshit on your own. if they removed waterfowl or at least nerfed it heavily Malenia would be the best boss they’ve ever made.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just block it with a great shield lol

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes obviously that’s the intended solution but if you want to learn to dodge it you have to look it up and that’s bullshit.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't have that problem on the count of me using Bloodhound step since Rennalla.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >bloodhound step
            May as well use CE, and I say that as the guy ITT advocating for the use of summons.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nerfing or removing it would do two things. It would create an eternal e-peen contest of people who beat it before and after. Secondly it would be an admittance that they fricked up. No developer is ever going to do that. They would toss a newborn off Mt Everest before consciously admitting a foul up.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They did it to Radahn and he’s still an amazing fight that’s very challenging as long as you’re not overleveled.

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If a boss has an npc summon in front of the fog door it’s balanced around summons. These games are about the story more than anything else, and summoning people for help with fights is a major part of that story.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing is balanced with summons in mind, it's just "hard mode" and balanced to be fair around it.
      NPC summons are the "normal mode", that's why they do x5 less damage than a regular player but have high HP, they expect the player to be doing DPS while the NPC distracts, but usually the NPC dies half way in the fight.
      And player summons are the easy mode, especially early on where boss HP is low and weapon arts + elemental damage completely nuke them.

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This boss took me 260 something tries, truly suifuel

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason I turn this game on anymore is to get summoned to help people with Malenia because I love the fight so much.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love the androgynous look of her. Fromsoft has such great taste in design

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coolest looking boss.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This guy does stupid damage but he’s also so squishy. Took me a dozen tries because I’d get to second phase and he’d one shot me but when I ultimately beat him I think it took a total of 6 r2s.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Makes you wonder how he even beat the Godskin apostles with the full power of destined death while head had nothing but an oversized dagger. Truthfully after Consecrated snowfield and Mohgwyn palace the last 3 Remembrance bosses felt kind of too easy outside of Maliketh maybe.

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll never understand Black person homosexuals who cut their own legs then complain they hop around.
    Bruh, you're a fricking moron sped and you should stop using the internet, before your imbecility infects another

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    bae mindbreaks another one

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't get it bro, why can't I beat this boss!
    >No, I refuse to use this tool (summons)
    >No, I refuse to use this tool (items)
    >No, I refuse to use this tool (spells)
    >No, I refuse to use this tool (statuses to widdle her down)
    >No, I refuse to use this tool (ashes of war (especially those that stun))
    >No, I refuse to use this tool (any other build besides your outdated ds1 setup)
    Then play something else. If you're so brainrotted by the "git gud" meme you refuse to use anything besides the same roll, shield, and R1 spam that got you through DS1, you're better off playing a different game.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm stuck on this boss and I refuse to use spirit summons or any kind of summon.
      Hahahaha
      Lol
      Lmao even
      I just steamrolled everyone and everything using what were available. Had a blast. Enjoy being cucked by the tryhard mentality this place gave you.

      based chads, playing the game with the tools provided and enjoying the sweet lamentations of the autistic try hard speds

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thing is she is beatable with just that, it's just your regular soul veteran's skills aren't enough anymore. I can understand the frustration, for a decade you could pretty much wing it with just rollspamming and R1ing and get through every other Souls game just by relying on your experience fighting Artorias alone. Now you have to actually learn the fight to prevail? Frick off, the boss is cheating, if I take damage it means the game is bugged, have you SEEN my playtime? I know better how these games should be made, if my barebones playstyle was overpowered in DS1 it should carry me through every other entry and should never be countered.

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm stuck on this boss and I refuse to use spirit summons or any kind of summon.
    Hahahaha
    Lol
    Lmao even
    I just steamrolled everyone and everything using what were available. Had a blast. Enjoy being cucked by the tryhard mentality this place gave you.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just watched every boss in Twitch so I had the same expirience as you 🙂

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No problem. Happy to know you found some fun. I did that with Bloodborne. Kek

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Played since release on and off on various characters with different builds. Beat Malenia for the first time yesterday using dual katanas. Took me like 13h total. Phase 1 was easy after a while, had to be real greedy to die. Phase 2 I just couldn't get the pace right and had to pull out Tyche after a while. Felt sad that it was over and that I couldn't 1v1 her P2. Nothing compares to the satisfaction of groking how to beat her the first time.
    People that complain about roll spam or that Malenia is too hard etc. are simply moronic street shitters. She is hard, as she should be.

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did a no summon playthrough, but I got too burnt out by the time I reach her, so I just gave up.
    Fighting Maliketh, Godfrey, and Radagon solo were the best part of the game for me though.

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol get fricked nerd. I raped her with moonblade in phase 1 and she did scarlet aeonia twice in a row in phase 2 so I shoved azur star up her ass twice.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      INT is the comfiest build in Elden Ring. Cool weapons, spells look better than ever, can be as unfair to the game as the game is to you. I love it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tbf sorcerers are a bit too strong, at least in pve. I don't even know the movesets of half the bosses. I don't even look for a build guide, I just looked up soft cap levels. On the other hand I do summon ashes, just because I can. I'm not going to cuck myself out of a game mechanic.

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hate summoning.
    >Am not gud enough to deal with the bullshit in the lategame easily on melee builds.
    I guess I'll stick to sorcery for the most part until something clicks in my brain and I get better at the game.

    I've been trying faith on a different character though and I'm a bit underwhelmed by my offensive incantations, what do you anons recommend? I've been using black flame, lightning spear and frenzied burst (for sniping from far away).

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been trying faith on a different character though and I'm a bit underwhelmed by my offensive incantations
      post build and seal.
      For the spell, replace black flame with Black blade or black blade incantation.
      Use ancient lighting dragon strike on big bosses for insane damage.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm at 72 faith with erdtree seal, previously I was using godslayer seal.
        I haven't gone to farum azula yet, but based on what you say the incants from there are quite good. Shame it's so late in the game.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can get black blade in Altus.
          It has a strong Ash of War that will melt Fire Giant.
          Also, get Pest threads for giant boss before moving to ancient dragon lighting strike.
          It's a shame that bolt of Gransax is a fricking Dex weapon for some reasons when it's an upgraded lighting spear.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean black knife

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what? She killed his bro? That's news to me.

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's hilarious how most side bossess in Elden Ring are better than final bosses in other games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean if you are a contrarian homosexual, sure.

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are like a thousand ways to cheese this boss (the back step ash, summons, magic, vitbaby). Patience is your problem. You want to just go in and frick it up, you have to choose your attacks. Also waterfowl is easy to dodge without any help either (when she goes up run away like hell, after the first volley dodge into the second volley and nothing will hit you then just stand still and she misses you completely for the last attack).

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