This. I can't count the number of actual retards who complain on the steam forums because they're system is shutting down because the game is sucking too much power.
The fucking thing SHOULD NEVER overheat, fucking idiots.
Exacrly, I roll a decade old xeon that can be kept cool with a Hyper 212 Evo because at 90% power consumption it only pulls about 140w, can't believe there are retards out there that cheap out on their cooling systems.
So they fucked up the code so bad it deliberately fries your CPU and they're framing it as a good thing?
That's very bad utilization. Hitting a solid 60 fps or 75fps shouldn't put that kind of load on an 8 core CPU. They're basically proud of how shit their optimization is.
>So they fucked up the code so bad it deliberately fries your CPU and they're framing it as a good thing?
Writing code that utilizes the CPU efficiently is not fucking up the code. If this was actually bad inefficient code the temps wouldn't get high because there'd be a lot idle time in the middle of all the processing.
This is fascinating. You people whine incessantly about how devs don't optimize their games. This is optimization. This is what it results in. Using every inch of power your machine has. That's going to drive up temps. If 100% utilization of your hardware results in throttling due to temps getting too high the code is not the problem. The problem is your cooling setup. Your CPU should be able to run at 100% utilization indefinitely.
it is if I get 30fps with a 90% CPU load on r9 7900 on low at 1080p.
>This is fascinating. You people whine incessantly about how devs don't optimize their games.
Melting my CPU for shit performance isn't optimization. You want as high performance as possible using as little resources as possible, that's what good optimization means.
> This is optimization
No, it's utilization for the sake of utilization so they can go "Oops there bud, if you can't get a solid 60 it means you should upgrade". They're using it as an excuse to say they optimized it for PC. Performance will be shit across the board and it will utilize all your hardware for it too. High utilization is seen when your hardware is subpar to the requierments or the devs are just braindead.
>Your CPU should be able to run at 100% utilization indefinitely.
Retard take.
>>Your CPU should be able to run at 100% utilization indefinitely. >Retard take.
No, it's literally how its supposed to be.
You probably routinely tax your GPU as much as you possibly can like all graphics whores without thinking twice. I don't know why you think your CPU is any different. Do you make sure not to max out the transfer rate of your hard drive because you fear breaking it? I bet you don't. The CPU is designed to be used. You don't gain anything from making sure you don't push it past 75% utilization or something. That's just being retarded.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You probably routinely tax your GPU as much as you possibly can like all graphics whores without thinking twice.
No. I choose settings at that put my max GPU load at 70% max. The Lower the better. Same with CPU. I see over 70% utilization I turn them down.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, a silicon chip is not like a engine or something. You're not straining it by running it at 100% capacity. You're not putting massive amounts of physical strain on a mechanical device. All you're doing is generating more heat and if your cooling setup can handle that heat there is absolutely nothing to worry about. You're not making your hardware last longer by not pushing it too hard or something. That's not a thing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're a fucking retard, enjoy your monero miner.
> All you're doing is generating more heat and if your cooling setup can handle that heat there is absolutely nothing to worry about. >Retard doesn't understand how electricity works.
>You're not making your hardware last longer by not pushing it too hard or something. That's not a thing.
Just as I thought. New hardware every year. Try undervolting your CPU and see how much longer it lasts.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, every single electronic component in your machine is running at 100% capacity all the time. All those capacitors and resistors and transistors and diodes and everything. There's nothing you can do to stop that from happening. Do you worry about all that shit breaking at any moment? All you really have to worry about is getting rid of the heat.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No. I choose settings at that put my max GPU load at 70% max.
jesus christ, there's no saving brainlets
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
rangeban third world morons and this board will be saved
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You realize you're happy about running bloat code for the sake of bloat?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
never reply to me again favelamonkey
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they're intended to run at 100% nonstop >retard buys new hardware every year because the old one died
kek.
>This is optimization
It is not optimization everyone wants. They tune that shit like it is f1 ferrari car, pushing the absolute limits of available hardware, when everyone wants a safe car that has incredibly good mileage expectation and doesn't require much of maintenance. It is a fucking game not a tech demo, treat it like one for fucks sake, all it needs is look as good as it can taxing as little of system as possible.
I don't have AMD so I don't care. I tried AMD once and even with a stock fan it literally killed itself with normal system operations. Most 8 cores on the market are AMD.
this is an official spec recommendation chart so they're massively playing it safe, just to avoid people calling them liars or even threatening legal action if someone buys the game, it doesnt run well, and then they say cdpr falsely advertised with this chart.
most likely a 6th gen i7 will have no issues with 1080p 60+fps
if the game can fully use 8 cores, than it can fully use 4 or 6 cores too. and if the gpu is not the bottleneck, the cpu will be, which makes games feel like absolute shit
this is an official spec recommendation chart so they're massively playing it safe, just to avoid people calling them liars or even threatening legal action if someone buys the game, it doesnt run well, and then they say cdpr falsely advertised with this chart.
most likely a 6th gen i7 will have no issues with 1080p 60+fps
Nah bro right now cyberjunk uses my i7 9700 to the max and drops below 60 in the busier downtown parts of the map.
>that costs barely any performance?
No, 3.5's RT optimizations give a tiny performance boost while looking a bit better, nvidia themselves said to not expect any real change in performance, it's more of a visual upgrade.
You're not even cutting it close then, you're fine and with RT Ultra too if you turn on DLSS. Maybe slight CPU issues at that resolution but you can always lower one or two settings to High instead of Ultra
Its the best looking game available right now and has the latest tech. Fucking poorfags just get a job at McDonald's for a month and you can afford a 4090
Its the best looking game available right now and has the latest tech. Fucking poorfags just get a job at McDonald's for a month and you can afford a 4090
and a new case, that thing is huge. I couldnt buy a 4080 and had to buy a 4070 ti instead because it wouldnt fit my case and I couldnt be bothered taking out the HDD cage or getting a new case
they're just relying on DLSS and FSR to do it for them now. they'll never optomize a game ever again. gamers also love rewarding laziness and predatory monetization schemes for some reason, which doesn't help
This, we are fucking spoiled nowadays, PCs from 10 years ago can still game
PCs from 20 years ago can still be used for browsing the internet
PCs from the mid 90s can still be used for offline office work shit
25-year-old machines, two decades and a half worth of PCs that can still be used in one way or another, Imagine trying to do the same in the mid-2000s. Imagine telling someone that their late 70s machine can still be used on their day-to-day office work and that their late 80s machine could still game
It fucking amazes me how good we live now and still people bitch and moan
There was a guy who joked about "will it run on my 486" on HL2 tech demo presentation. Everyone had a nice laugh because it was some advanced shit they were showing and it was obvious you had to get some good shit to run it. Likewise nobody was surprised you needed top of the line hardware to run Crysis - its presentation was way beyond anything else out at the time.
But when you see modern games demanding hardware that's 2-3 times as powerful as something released 2-3 years ago but still looks like a PS4 title with some fancy but soulless lights rendered in mandatory fake resolution with fake frames - it's hard to justify upgrading for it, especially now that GPUs aren't even made with gaming in mind anymore, either gimped with low VRAM or made for AI with midrange now costing like high. Everything about it feels like a scam, both the games that innovate exactly nothing and still try to milk you, and the hardware that only allows devs to be lazy, outsource everything to jeets and then shift the blame on the customers.
It's not a $1500 GPU looking game. Metro Exodus and Atomic Heart both look better and run better.
Objectively, factually, it is the best looking game ever made. It's not a debate. >b-but I don't like the art style as much
Not my problem.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cool Mankind Divided screenshot.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This looks "good", nothing more, nothing less.
Only thing here that looks remotely impressive here is light, everything else is basic as fuck. Which is the fucking problem in the first place, industry choose the weirdest fucking thing to push forward. Raytracing while technically impressive is a fucking meme because shadows, light and reflections all can be cheated in with smoke and mirrors and really don't fucking add much to visuals, not as much as good on the fly destructability would add for example. How many years it was since Red Faction games, and we are still not even at that level of terrain interactivity some fucking how in most recent releases.
Cope.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Genshin Impact looks better
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
looks like shit compared to this which can run on a potato. which begs the question, why are games so unoptimized yet not even better looking than something released several years ago?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol. No, it doesn't. You're poor and have never played Cyberpunk on ultra in 4K.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
TW3 looks better
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Who do you think made TW3? They massively upgraded their engine to make Cyberpunk. TW3 is objectively inferior.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They massively upgraded their engine
All the talent left after TW3 because they treated their staff like shit. 2077 was made by interns.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah ok retard.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
dumb moron doesn't know anything about the corporation whose cum he's swallowing
lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The engine devs left after completing the engine for cyberpunk you retard.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No you idiot, RED was developed for the Witcher, most devs left after W3's release, new people worked on CP with very little knowledge of the engine, and that's why it was such a massive jank, on top of crunches and stupid managmenet decisions.
They're moving to UE because nobody can work on RED anymore.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Haha dumb moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Arkham City really isn't a good comparison. The game was optimized like utter shit on launch, and I think it took them years to fix it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It is a good comparison because it's gorgeous and can run on 6+ year old PC's now. it's not like they did much to optimize it other than wait for people to upgrade. If a game can look that good and play that well on garbage PCs, while games that look like Starfield and Cyberpunk can't, then there's something horribly wrong going on inside the brains of the poojeets coding this shit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>uhmm why does a wildly graphically superior game require more power??? >I'm poor and demand better bawwww!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>graphically superior
No it isn't. It has better tech but it doesn't look any better for using that tech. I can fucking guarantee you they won't make V animations work properly with reflections, even with all the rtx cocksucking they do.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
looks like shit compared to this which can run on a potato. which begs the question, why are games so unoptimized yet not even better looking than something released several years ago?
Arkham Knight is significantly inferior to modern games graphically bro.
Also I think you're forgetting that Arkham Knight also ran like shit when it released. It was unironically so bad that it was pulled off Steam for a significant amount of time and they had to apologize and fix it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Also I think you're forgetting that Arkham Knight also ran like shit when it released. It was unironically so bad that it was pulled off Steam for a significant amount of time and they had to apologize and fix it.
I think what is kind of sad is that some people don't even realize that happened anymore. Arkham Knight was such a shit show on PC at launch, but some people don't even realize that it happened now which is why shit like that just keeps happening.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>skybox out of 2010 >vegetation look like shit even being barely in the frame >street is squeaky clean and entirely empty >barely any wear and tear as if everything is brand new >post effects out of the ass smearing everything in some weird bloom haze >lights and billboards are pretty though
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This looks "good", nothing more, nothing less.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Only thing here that looks remotely impressive here is light, everything else is basic as fuck. Which is the fucking problem in the first place, industry choose the weirdest fucking thing to push forward. Raytracing while technically impressive is a fucking meme because shadows, light and reflections all can be cheated in with smoke and mirrors and really don't fucking add much to visuals, not as much as good on the fly destructability would add for example. How many years it was since Red Faction games, and we are still not even at that level of terrain interactivity some fucking how in most recent releases.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, rdr2 takes that crown.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nope. You can say you prefer rdr2's art style, but objectively it is graphically inferior.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no.
cyberpunk has too many graphical/engine glitches to give it #1.
The only people who got gimped on VRAM were retarded nvidiot consoomer that bought the 10gb 3080. And some AI models needs lots of VRAM so cards should be getting even more of that.
Sure they will, but it will take some time
Anon forgot to mention, but Nvidea is not ONLY Vram shorting people, but also Bus shorting, New cards all come with narrower busses than the last gen ones while having the same Vram
They are clearly doing this because they are trying to reduce costs on their die productions so they can make as many chips per wafer as possible. Why? because every wafer with consumer chips on it is a wasted slot they could have booked at TSMC for enterprise chips instead, and that is where their money is coming from now
So making lukewarm cards for now is fine for them, even if their competitors start making much better products, they have nothing to worry really
AMD is playing catch up slowly as fuck, their RT solution and AI shit ain't as good, also even if they get their shit together on the Ai front, Nvidea had a such tremendous head start at AI that both Enterprise and consumer-level AI solutions all only run on Nvidia (or on custom ARM shit)
Intel is new to this and nothing older than DX12 runs on those cards so no worries there either
Nvidea really doesn't have to care right now at all
Ive been gaming with a 10gb 3080 for nearly 3 years now and not run into a single instance where the 10gb would gimp me noticably. 3 years, its fucking old and i will prolly dump it next gen or after that. If you think a release day 3080 at msrp was a mistake i pity your parents.
When games go up to $79.99 and you can't run games on 1080p ultra on your $6k rig, be sure to remember your post. You lost any right to complain about the gaming industry.
Because current gen consoles finally have an SSD so all modern games are jumping to abuse the fuck out of it by putting "invisible" loading screens everywhere. >play on SSD >open door >everything is fine >play on HDD >open door >game stops to load the room
the fact every default preset in the game turns on dlss for Nvidia cards and poorfag dynamic upscaling for AMDlets. not having it on turns your graphic profile to custom. nice little sidestep to the fact adding dynamic police and motorcycles somehow nuked game performance.
No it is not
Look at the screen rec
They always say when they enable a certain feature
4K RT Overdrive is enabled WITH Frame Generation (so dlss 3)
The rest of the settings aren't
2077 was always a heavily nvidia sponsored title, Starfield is similar but favoring AMD. Also you're looking at RT settings, the 6000 series WAS that far behind in RT performance.
>GTA IV still has the best police system of any openworld crime game >Cyberpunks rework probably won't come close to that but require a 500+ CPU in order to run it
Are they fucking insane? Are they really releasing an update to a 3 year old game that needs a top of the line pc to run correctly?
And there will be people who defend this shit.
jesus fucking christ, why do devs cant optimize shit anymore
If I can't play your game on 1080p on low settings with at least 60 FPS I'm not playing it. If 5TFlops aren't enough for that then the game devs did a retard job and I simply don't care enough to even pirate it.
>Ryzen 7800x3D for 1080p high and only 60 fps
This is gonna be bad. They should've remade the game in UE 5 to get the hang of it, This is fucking ridiculous. Witcher 4 will be an absolute mess unless they use the Fortnine team.
They mention frame gen being turned on cause that is not a normal setting turned on with presets. But if you put your preset to low or high it auto defaults to fsr/dlss being on.
It's not the first time or the last time a spec sheet is retarded. The checks cleared from AMD to advertise their new lineups. AMD out out their own recommended hardware requirements for Starfield and it was literally just their latest generation CPUs and GPUs in ascending order.
Man I'm used to playing 40ish-50ish fps on high native 1080p on my 12400f and 980ti. I guess I gotta drop down to low from now on. Cpu is going to get an upgrade this year but gpu won't until Nvdia 5000 or Amd 8000 is released.
Path tracing isn't that demanding actually. I mean, 4080 for 4k with framegen and you get 60fps?
That means you can get 60fps at 1440p with a 70ti/70 with maybe one or two settings turned down
>"lol just upgrade your computer" >"lol ur using a potato pc" >"lol stop being poor" >now >"OH NO WHY CAN'T I RUN THIS?"
You have no one to blame but yourself for letting it get this bad and not telling these greedy gays to go fuck themselves earlier.
so I simply say to you:
yeah anon, i bet some anons on Ganker could change the entire gaming industry >hey normal fags, stop buying the latest trash and tell the retards developers to make the game run >everyone agree and developers bend the knee
fucking moron
5700xt keeps being perfectly fine
I have a 1440p screen though so I'll likely be on medium-high instead of high outright.
imagine shortening the lifespan of your 4090 rtx PC to play a mediocre fps with no optional third person view
Play Todd's game instead
I am, it's fun. I'm starting to think I won't be able to finish it before Phantom Liberty though.
Easily one of my favorite Bethesda games.
Top 3 right now are Oblivion, Daggerfall, and now Starfield. Bye bye Morrowind.
The real question right now is if it'll remain at the 3rd, still only 40 hours in and no mods yet.
Unlike in Starfield you can get decent performance in 2077 with optimized settings. If you are expecting a game that looks like that to run on ancient hardware you cant be helped though.
So what in the fuck did they even change to make up use this much resources? It doesn't look any different.
Does implementing a decent cop response system really hog the CPU this much?
The increased load is on the CPU, so it's not the graphics taking up more processing power. It probably is the new AI, the copas and iirc they said they were improving the overall combat AI as well.
90% of 8 cores dam
It was already using 90% with the Ryzen fix on my 3700X guess its time to upgrade CPU
Windows already uses 1-10% of your CPU threads cuz its shit linux is half of windows
WTF
1080p 60 fps Non RT = Latest 7800X3D, RT Low = 5600, RT Ultra = 7900X knew it above 8 cores = 12 cores minimum
16 cores will be required for future games to be comfortable
Always double the core requirement for comfort breathing room cuz of OS windows and several applications like CPU and RAM hogging chromium engine browser and steam
20 GB RAM for Non RT and RT Ultra graphics preset
Ray tracing requires NVME instead of Sata SSD
RT Overdrive is complete meme right now reminds me of Witcher 2 Ubersampling remember that option ate away fps more than RT
jesus fucking christ, why do devs cant optimize shit anymore
CDPR already announced that they're moving to UnrealEngine
Most of the people who worked with their old Red Engine have already left
[...]
why the significant upgrade in cpu requirements?
cuz
AI that isnt held back by previous gen consoles.
and old fags above already left its only millenial coders there now who have no clue for their Red Engine
this is what I ordered yesterday
did I fuck up somewhere >inb4 mATX in ATX
I KNOW
Yea you fucked up
Not even 7700X or 7800X3D, Peerless Assassin
There was a time I would pirate AAA games to try them, now I don't bother.
You make Fallout 4-3 sound better than it is.
I don't have a problem with this
You can betray the chud and he drives off suicidal because you fucked up his lifelong revenge plot
Cyperpunk genre is inherently dystopian, chuds SHOULD be in it, they help sell the world as being a degenerate shithole.
I hate that people bring up NMS so much when it's a garbage fucking game, there's literally no reason to play it for fucking sight seeing or launching a ship from space, it's fucking pointless and an ugly ass game with horrible pop-in even on the highest settings. Every planet is the same after you visit 20, all the plants and fauna might be different but it doesn't fucking matter if i've already seen them on another type of planet, who fucking cares if TOXIC PLANET 2 has plants and other shit on it that i've already seen? Sure it has a lot of variety but it has the exact same problem as Starfield, everything is the fucking same. Plants are the same no matter the biome, animals are the same no matter the biome, flying your ship to places LITERALLY SERVES NO PURPOSE in NMS other than as a waste of time, NMS space combat is exactly the same as Starfields.
$200 million+
instead of even a small transition of flying towards a planet or solar system, we get dark skinned people over-represented by 2000%+.
todd is an embarrassment.
>one single literal who >a company known to work fucking magic when it comes to optimization to improve graphics and have their games run on toasters
Why isGanker so retarded nowadays? Those recommendations are always overblown because retards tend to have sorry systems with some no name parts in them in a case that's more akin to a sauna box then a pic tower.
Aren't most CPUs going to start throttling well before the PC "overheats" the way a console does?
I know intel stock coolers this gen are utter garbage even for low end offerings, but still.
So like. What happens with these old games getting huge updates if you cant run the new requirements?
Are you just shit out of luck that the game you could play fine 5 years ago you paid for got updated and you just cant run it anymore?
Am i ever gonna be able to play the witcher 3 again after they made it ray tracing and shit?
You have to cross your fingers and pray the devs preserve old versions or take steps to do it yourself.
CDPR did preserve Witcher 3 but CP77 is much less likely.
Do you think i could theoretically get a steam refund if i owned cp77 and they literally just made it unplayable on my rig thats run it fine since release?
Surely steam wouldnt stand for this
You have to cross your fingers and pray the devs preserve old versions or take steps to do it yourself.
CDPR did preserve Witcher 3 but CP77 is much less likely.
>downloading something you already purchased and own is FOMO
ok retarded tech illiterate zoommoron, guess you're shit out of luck and have to swallow whatever the corporation shits onto your plate, as you're used to.
I guarantee you those offline installers are going to disappear when the update drops. It's literally standard practice, retard.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So you're complaining that old versions of a game aren't going to be available until the end of time? Literally no storefront does this, go pirate it if you care that much.
I can't imagine playing this game on a console, it is easily one of the best looking games out on PC right now. Genuinely the first time since KCD where I was blown away with graphics in a vidya game. Hopefully I can get a new CPU soon because full path tracing looks insane.
>a lot of games use around 80% of your cpu
Maybe if your CPU is a quad core from 10 years ago
I've never seen any game use more than 50% of my 5800x, including current patch cyberpunk.
I don't have a problem with this
You can betray the chud and he drives off suicidal because you fucked up his lifelong revenge plot
Cyperpunk genre is inherently dystopian, chuds SHOULD be in it, they help sell the world as being a degenerate shithole.
cyberpunk genre isn't contemporary, it's retro-futuristic with some sci-fi mixed in
autogynephilia and other disorders that result in chuds has existed forever and will likely continue, regardless of how public perception is influenced by ~~*those in power*~~
>YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING SOMEONE LIKE ME, HE WAS THE ONLY MAN IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD WHO EVER LOVED ME
Buddy, if you're having a harder time finding love than fucking a Maelstrom member, that's on you, not society.
Makes no sense in the game, terrible character, makes going into the Afterlife annoying for the rest of the game.
>trans >absolutely no modifications
Fucking why then? I guess in 2077 you have proper cyberware to act on your delusion. How even this gay got to find plastic surgeons who still work in old-school way?
>build new pc >buy game >justwerks >few years later >game gets improvement update >Literally does not eork on your system anymore >cant play game you paid for without spending 2k on a new pc
Why is this allowed unironically
downloading a game isn't maintaining anything, and even if it was, >falls under the purvey of digital storefronts, not consumers
according to which laws?
Extreme mega autists tend to only have weak moral compasses based on logic, and it stands to logic that if its illegal its bad
So they really do just let the law entirely dictate fheir sense of right and wrong
No, I'm of the belief that people should archive shit they care about themselves, any product or service that is hosted online can be removed or negatively changed at any time for no reason. Download shit you care about and keep backups. >but I'm too dumb >but I'm too cheap to buy hard drives
Sucks to be you, I guess. The internet could go down tomorrow and I'll still be able to play any game I remotely care about. If you're just going to complain without doing anything about it then your words are worthless.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You arent entirely wrong but you seriously dont think a company who sells you a product should be held to some standard of keeping the product you fucking paid for accessible >b-but they cant be
Because fags like you roll with these punches
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that standard is held by making consumer friendly laws you fucking retarded american gorilla moron >muh government bad, weak moral compass lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's better held by plain old violence.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i would agree but big business are too decentralized, beating up a couple managers is not enough of a solution long term
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Big business calls for big solutions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Based.
What do you have in mind?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Putting in some overtime huh?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm just beyond caring at this point, normalfags control every single market. The majority are cattle who will gladly give up their rights for any minor convenience that a corporation and come up with. >tell them what they're doing is wrong! >vote with your wallet!
cattle will still pay them billions, get burned, then buy the next product because the TV/e-celeb told them to.
I pirate everything, if it's good then I'll throw the company a couple bucks and keep my pirated copies. I'm so far beyond caring about whatever armchair activism a couple randoms on the internet try to promote, it's a lost cause.
I gave the devs money so I wouldn't have to do this shit, retard.
if I have to source an older version of the game through some sketchy website anyways then why did I buy the game in the first place?
>trusting a company >a PUBLICLY traded company at that
You get what you deserve.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I gave the devs money so I wouldn't have to do this shit, retard.
if I have to source an older version of the game through some sketchy website anyways then why did I buy the game in the first place?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The government can step in and seize everything you own any time for no reason. Don't like it? Boohoo.
You want some polish to wash down the taste of boot?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The government can step in and seize everything
Yes, they can
What are you doing to prevent this from happening?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You dont become a folk heri without a few claymore roombas
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hero
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stop fishing glowie.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is why Trump lost, chud. And Muslims are taking over Europe.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And Muslims are taking over Europe.
hope they take over everything and throw your ilk off of roofs
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
My ilk? They aren't gonna come get me, I don't live in Europe.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
whoa mohamed it seems you forgot how to write in your seething
Ganker is literally never right about anything, mainly because it's full of console shitters and turd worlders and fevela monkeys with patato teir PC's
I'm rarely playing theses days but consoles feel like the best choice to just don't give an f and play what you want with no stress. Cheap gaming laptop will take core of PC indies, console will take care of demanding titles. win win and money stays in your pockett
>high utilization of 8 cores that the developer clearly boasts about, therefore clearly means it's utilized well and not unoptimized >"why cant devs optimize for shit anymore?"
dimwit
2.0 improves a lot on the AI, police coming from afar and finding you, chasing you, improved combat AI etc. I imagine these would be in the game from the get go if they didnt have to optimize for the previous consoles which they dropped now
I'm not defending RED shitters but if you didn't put enough time and money into a build that doesn't shit itself on full load it's kind of your fucking fault
Why, because I'm telling people to use their common sense?
You should be able to hit a wall hard and not have it fall down is all I'm saying. This goes for any game or software. You don't know if a random fucking unoptimized piece of shit in the future is going to melt your shit. I despise the fuck out of everyone who acts all smart after putting out a build then complains about overheating, random restarts or ports not working properly because they decided to just cheap out on stuff like coolers, mobos and PSUs.
you're preaching to the void, people here don't want to learn to pc build, they'd rather just watch some youtube jackass who says to spend 20 dollars on their cooler then bitch about it later
tbh the biggest upgrade for me was getting a Fractal Torrent case and a good Noctua CPU cooler.
I don't know what your case is but check reviews or watever to see if airflow is good. My previous case would cook my GPU but my current one keeps the 3080 at like 65 degrees at max load.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I did think about the Fractal Torrent but it was just too expensive for me
I may end up getting one of these days though
What's your CPU? I kind of cheapened out with my CPU cooler because mine apparently doesn't heat up too much
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i7-13700k, it can run pretty hot
2 weeks ago
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i7-13700k, it can run pretty hot
To add to that, i wouldn't cheap out on the CPU too much. I feel like if you ever use ray tracing or even DLSS or play at 1440p, CPU does tend to make a difference.
I guess it depends on how sensitive you are to microstutters. I can't stand them so I went with a good CPU.
If you're running AMD, I've heard the 3D cache ones are pretty solid.
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>If you're running AMD, I've heard the 3D cache ones are pretty solid.
Yeah 5800x3D and 7800x3D are the best of their respective socket type but I think any AM5 AMD CPU is going to be a solid choice now
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I bought a Fractal Focus and the layout is pretty good, the GPU gets a ton of space for airflow and the case is not that expensive
I think PC gamers are complicated.
I mean, companies expect to have a well-built pc and getting no parts over years (to keep it "new"), but we got people who still have Windows 7, a nvidia 1600 or the PC covered in dust.
Aside prices, WE are keeping the gaming behind.
I just want to give this dogshit ass game a second chance after almost four years bruh, why are they making these posts a week before release?
As far as I'm concerned late 2020/early 2021 this game is a 6/10 at best, the less side content you do and the faster you beat it the better the score, the more side content you do and play with its "systems" the worse it becomes. Genuinely hope that 2.0 eradicates a lot of the issues with mid-late game and makes the world feel more alive with side content being actually worthwhile because holy fuck did it suck three years back. Also, call me crazy but Starfield gunplay feels better than CP77, and as shallow as Starfield's RPG systems are, they are somehow still better executed than CP77 also, what the fuck.
I think the problem was less the systems and more most of the side content sucking. Most side missions are just >get to a place >fixer monologues in your ear >you go in and kill everyone
Like even taking the actual execution of the mission aside, the setup is usually done in a way where I just don't give a fuck about it because I haven't even met any of the parties involved. Fixers should have pointed you to contacts who then give you the actual mission so there's more of a human element to it. It also prevents the issue the game has where you'll go from one and a half hour dialogue scenes to not talking to anyone at all for several hours.
The update is for everyone regardless if you buy the dlc or not, but hey keep malding i dont even own the game and wont play it when better games like skyrim exist
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the updates system specs are for the pl
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It says update 2.0 in the pic too, and the 2-0 update is free
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
how would they up the visuals for the entire base game and charge nothing for it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
because theyre putting to effort into it, and are just letting dlss do all the work and let everyone else get fucked
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
thats retarded and the updated system requirements are for PL area only
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes it retarded and no the updated system requirements are not only for pl area
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the updated system requirements are for PL area only
Nope.
>getting CP content at release
Imagine not having learned your mistake from last time, while at the same time having a prime example of why you should wait before buying big games play out right before your eyes in real time.
I expect it to be unplayable until Christmas at the very earliest.
Everyone who is happy about a 90% load is a retard who doesn't realize that performance will in the crapper and they'll just say "Better buy new hardware, chump". You people are the morons.
never reply to me again favelamonkey
Better buy yourself top of the line hardware so it gets maxed out by something that barely ran on the latest hardware at the time of release. KYS.
Haven't they given up on their in house engine for all future games?
They did and it will be even worse than this in therms of performance because retards don't know how to utilize resources properly and just put everything on blast.
>a game from 3 years ago should utilize 100% modern hardware regardless of the performance
You should understand what CDPR is telling you when they say they'll load your CPU for all it's worth. You won't get good performance retard.
Can someone explain to me how DLSS works with games that support it proper? Like I have an RTX 3060 laptop, pretty much all modern games run 1080p60 on high-ultra but since it has a 120hz monitor, I would just switch on DLSS and set it to Quality and it would keep similar visual quality but boost fps out the ass or what?
well it takes stuff like vector data and AI training to guess what shade a pixel should be between real pixels when upscaling from lower res to target res
DLSS runs the game at a lower resolution than your monitor's native (thus getting more fpas) and then uses upscaling and sharpening magic to make up for the loss of pixels. The goal is to achieve higher framerates without sacrificing image quality.
makes sense I used to think that DLSS only works with proper displays that can go beyond their "optimal" resolution, like using a 24" 1440p monitor @ 2160p and then downscaling it back to 1440p so you get visual fidelity between 1440p and 2160p but also increase FPS by a bit.
sounds sick, sadly since I got the laptop I haven't really played games that had DLSS or it wasn't relevant enough (games already ran at +100fps on near max), gonna give it a spin in a week once CP77 2.0 drops.
it does not, all it does it reduce the lifespan of your rig , its a game not a tech demo running high temps for hours its gonna kill your shit in less than a year
>all it does it reduce the lifespan of your rig
Only if you've got a rig with shitty cooling. It's not like 30% utilization does meaningfully less "wear" to the chip than 90% utilization. That's not the way this shit works.
Opposite , A higher wattage and power draw will wear done the components, your gpu is not made for this kind of thing regardless if your cooling and thermalpaste its ok, ask any scalper or miner what happen to their shit every year.
Show me electron microscope images of chips demonstrating "wear" from 90% utilization that could be avoided by only having used 70% utilization instead. Heat damage does not count. That's a failure in cooling setup. >your gpu is not made for this kind of thing
It literally is. This is not a car. You're not over revving it by going to full utilization. You just need to worry about getting rid of the heat. That's it.
>winter
I wish it was winter. Fucking heatwave has damn near killed me this week. I've literally turned down my settings on Starfield so my PC doesn't overheat me.
Triple A gaming is so fucking done, we shouldn't be using current Gen gpus and cpus for 1080p 60fps. 1080p gaming should've unironically been solved with the 1000 series Nvidia gpus and 6000 series Intel cpus.
It's all artificial and inflated because of these corporations. Combine this with nu-game devs and Work From Home "software engineers" who were hired from some backstreet.
nuGanker is full of low iq consumer-cucks and so tech-illiterate they genuinely believe anything a company says. So if they say its the customers fault their product runs like dog-shit Ganker will defend [company] to the death.
You must have a very shitty cpu cooler if that causes it to overheat. But thanks to cyberpunk I gotta upgrade my cpu. An i5 12400f is just 6 cores and 8 cores are recommended thanks to this update.
People are so fucking clueless about semiconductors. All these dumbasses who invest in liquid cooling and shit to stay below 40 celsius, when all of their hardware can work perfectly up to 90.
>never build a PC before >was a gayman laptop fag for years >build one that is supposed to be slotted into a TV rack to the point the case itself is just a few CM smaller than where I place it >drill 2 small holes on the rack itself for ventilation >expect fully well that the system will always be thermal throttling like my laptops because of cooling >CPU and GPU never thermal throttle and usually stay below 70c even on synthetic loads and heavy AI generation shit
Why do I see so many fuckers bitching and moaning about their PCs overheating? I am not a smart man, I just bought shit and put it together, my PSU is not even that good because I ran out of money, my cooler is some random cooler master shit I can't even find on PC parts picker, my PC is inside a cabinet under my TV, how the fuck I have better airflow than half of the people bitching and moaning around that CyberPunk will actually use the CPU, unlike every other game that barely cracks 10% of CPU usage nowadays?
Why are you so salty? I just told you I probably have way worse airflow than your rig, why are you so salty that I ain't overheating?
Go fucking fix your airflow god damn it
Fucking clean your air filters, unclog that heatsink, change the fucking thermal paste
reminder that 30 fps might be cancer, but literally 2 more fps makes it so much smoother.
if you have gsync/freesync/adaptive sync and can't get a good framerate, just use rtss to set it to 32-40 and you're golden.
it helps to get used to it by dropping down to 16 fps for 5-15 minutes and then switching it back up to 32 to feel buttery smooth.
After building my PC and spending an autistict amount of time choosing each parts, I really do like my PS5 a lot more.
The level of visual quality it can deliver for the price is definitely impressive, especially when compared to a PC.
PS3 had less value compared to PC in 2012 than the PS5 today.
i7- 11800H (seems to be on par with 11400)
16GB RTX 3080 Mobile (seems to be a little better than a 3060 Ti but not quite as good as a 3070. It shits on the 3060 Ti in furmark benches, though)
Will I be able to play on 1080/60 ultra?
>Welp gonna wait another 3 years before its finally playable....again....
not this time. they're pretty much abandoning it for witcher 4 since they're moving to unreal engine 5. if it's unplayable now, it's up to you to upgrade.
>it’s a broken mess at launch, it will never be fixed >save files are getting to bloated and corrupted, it will never be fixed >they have already abandoned it, it will never be fixed >they will never make DLC for it, it will never be fixed >they will never release an expansion for it will never be fixed >they will never upgrade the perk trees to make it a better RPG, it will never be fixed
YOU ARE NOW HERE >the expansion that was never coming out will be buggy, and never be fixed
Perks aren't the problem with cyberpunk, there's nothing in the game to actually do
>beat game >should be around 50+ hours if you do everything, or 20+ if just focusing on the main story >"WHY ISN'T THERE MORE GAME?"
lol. what more do you want? it's not a sandbox game, it's a wrpg. just because it looks like gta doesn't make it gta.
>just because it looks like gta doesn't make it gta
well considering they advertised it as a big gta style variety game in a massive city it should. instead all the advertising content was from the fucking start montage
if using 90% of your CPU overheats it your setup is garbage
This. I can't count the number of actual retards who complain on the steam forums because they're system is shutting down because the game is sucking too much power.
The fucking thing SHOULD NEVER overheat, fucking idiots.
Exacrly, I roll a decade old xeon that can be kept cool with a Hyper 212 Evo because at 90% power consumption it only pulls about 140w, can't believe there are retards out there that cheap out on their cooling systems.
my poor 5800x3d is gonna cry
>tell me Ganker would you rather your frames fade away, or your PC burn out?
Kek
Why are they underlining 8 cores as if this was 2012?
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that will be $30 + tip
CP has good cpu utilization?
Good for cp fans
I don't call it good utilization until it starts using 90% of my 64-core CPU
I don't think a CPU with that many cores is meant to be used for gaming
So they fucked up the code so bad it deliberately fries your CPU and they're framing it as a good thing?
That's very bad utilization. Hitting a solid 60 fps or 75fps shouldn't put that kind of load on an 8 core CPU. They're basically proud of how shit their optimization is.
>So they fucked up the code so bad it deliberately fries your CPU and they're framing it as a good thing?
Writing code that utilizes the CPU efficiently is not fucking up the code. If this was actually bad inefficient code the temps wouldn't get high because there'd be a lot idle time in the middle of all the processing.
This is fascinating. You people whine incessantly about how devs don't optimize their games. This is optimization. This is what it results in. Using every inch of power your machine has. That's going to drive up temps. If 100% utilization of your hardware results in throttling due to temps getting too high the code is not the problem. The problem is your cooling setup. Your CPU should be able to run at 100% utilization indefinitely.
it is if I get 30fps with a 90% CPU load on r9 7900 on low at 1080p.
>This is fascinating. You people whine incessantly about how devs don't optimize their games.
Melting my CPU for shit performance isn't optimization. You want as high performance as possible using as little resources as possible, that's what good optimization means.
> This is optimization
No, it's utilization for the sake of utilization so they can go "Oops there bud, if you can't get a solid 60 it means you should upgrade". They're using it as an excuse to say they optimized it for PC. Performance will be shit across the board and it will utilize all your hardware for it too. High utilization is seen when your hardware is subpar to the requierments or the devs are just braindead.
>Your CPU should be able to run at 100% utilization indefinitely.
Retard take.
>>Your CPU should be able to run at 100% utilization indefinitely.
>Retard take.
No, it's literally how its supposed to be.
You probably routinely tax your GPU as much as you possibly can like all graphics whores without thinking twice. I don't know why you think your CPU is any different. Do you make sure not to max out the transfer rate of your hard drive because you fear breaking it? I bet you don't. The CPU is designed to be used. You don't gain anything from making sure you don't push it past 75% utilization or something. That's just being retarded.
>You probably routinely tax your GPU as much as you possibly can like all graphics whores without thinking twice.
No. I choose settings at that put my max GPU load at 70% max. The Lower the better. Same with CPU. I see over 70% utilization I turn them down.
Anon, a silicon chip is not like a engine or something. You're not straining it by running it at 100% capacity. You're not putting massive amounts of physical strain on a mechanical device. All you're doing is generating more heat and if your cooling setup can handle that heat there is absolutely nothing to worry about. You're not making your hardware last longer by not pushing it too hard or something. That's not a thing.
You're a fucking retard, enjoy your monero miner.
> All you're doing is generating more heat and if your cooling setup can handle that heat there is absolutely nothing to worry about.
>Retard doesn't understand how electricity works.
>You're not making your hardware last longer by not pushing it too hard or something. That's not a thing.
Just as I thought. New hardware every year. Try undervolting your CPU and see how much longer it lasts.
Anon, every single electronic component in your machine is running at 100% capacity all the time. All those capacitors and resistors and transistors and diodes and everything. There's nothing you can do to stop that from happening. Do you worry about all that shit breaking at any moment? All you really have to worry about is getting rid of the heat.
>No. I choose settings at that put my max GPU load at 70% max.
jesus christ, there's no saving brainlets
rangeban third world morons and this board will be saved
You realize you're happy about running bloat code for the sake of bloat?
never reply to me again favelamonkey
>they're intended to run at 100% nonstop
>retard buys new hardware every year because the old one died
kek.
>This is optimization
It is not optimization everyone wants. They tune that shit like it is f1 ferrari car, pushing the absolute limits of available hardware, when everyone wants a safe car that has incredibly good mileage expectation and doesn't require much of maintenance. It is a fucking game not a tech demo, treat it like one for fucks sake, all it needs is look as good as it can taxing as little of system as possible.
That only happens to pre-built user or someone who slapped a D15 on a 13900k
I don't have AMD so I don't care. I tried AMD once and even with a stock fan it literally killed itself with normal system operations. Most 8 cores on the market are AMD.
these fucking RETARDS can't do anything right
every update comes with major fuck ups
not even witcher 3 is safe
Utilizing more cores is actually a good thing.
Engoodening, they said, it'll be redeemed they said.
CPsisters, we're b-ACK
5600x bros its over
If you play slop like this you never really started.
Are they actually updating the graphics or what? Demanding a 7800x3D for 1080p/60fps is pretty fucked.
This is probably with the ray tracing overdrive mode (which simulates light extremely realistically)
>i7 8700k & 4080
Yeah, I am thinkin it's over
for 1080p on high
are you fucking kidding me
this is an official spec recommendation chart so they're massively playing it safe, just to avoid people calling them liars or even threatening legal action if someone buys the game, it doesnt run well, and then they say cdpr falsely advertised with this chart.
most likely a 6th gen i7 will have no issues with 1080p 60+fps
if the game can fully use 8 cores, than it can fully use 4 or 6 cores too. and if the gpu is not the bottleneck, the cpu will be, which makes games feel like absolute shit
Nah bro right now cyberjunk uses my i7 9700 to the max and drops below 60 in the busier downtown parts of the map.
>this is an official spec recommendation chart so they're massively playing it safe
Hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahah
i5 13400f and 4070. I think i'll be fine if i turn off ray tracing but i'm cutting it mighty close
>i9-10850
>3080ti
I'm not sure I can make it, now I am sad
doesn't the dlss3.5 have some special snowflake "raytracing" that costs barely any performance?
>that costs barely any performance?
No, 3.5's RT optimizations give a tiny performance boost while looking a bit better, nvidia themselves said to not expect any real change in performance, it's more of a visual upgrade.
They are integrating a denoiser into the upscaler, it should be slightly faster, but the main thing is that they have more data to work with.
Why? Are you playing on 4k? If no, you can even turn RT on lol
nah, my monitor is 1080p 144 fps
i would have got something better but my 1440 moniter broke and i needed to get something immediately
You're not even cutting it close then, you're fine and with RT Ultra too if you turn on DLSS. Maybe slight CPU issues at that resolution but you can always lower one or two settings to High instead of Ultra
jesus fucking christ, why do devs cant optimize shit anymore
Do not speak the Lord's name in vain, you dumb moron.
are you ok mentally ill retard
gay jesus cocksucking god moron bitch
In better times degenerates such as yourself would hang from the fucking rafters, hopefully they will come soon.
in better times garden gnomes like you were nailed to the cross
It is optimised, they just support cutting edge features.
Its the best looking game available right now and has the latest tech. Fucking poorfags just get a job at McDonald's for a month and you can afford a 4090
>get a job
no
I mean to be fair its not just the 4090, most would probably need a new psu and CPU as well.
>4
and a new case, that thing is huge. I couldnt buy a 4080 and had to buy a 4070 ti instead because it wouldnt fit my case and I couldnt be bothered taking out the HDD cage or getting a new case
Devs can't use space magic to make your thinkpad 420 run CP on ultra.
they're just relying on DLSS and FSR to do it for them now. they'll never optomize a game ever again. gamers also love rewarding laziness and predatory monetization schemes for some reason, which doesn't help
>gamers also love rewarding laziness and predatory monetization schemes for some reason
Muh graphics.
nobody said this when world of warcraft came out and their shitty commodore 64 couldn't run it
get a job loser and buy a better computer
This, we are fucking spoiled nowadays, PCs from 10 years ago can still game
PCs from 20 years ago can still be used for browsing the internet
PCs from the mid 90s can still be used for offline office work shit
25-year-old machines, two decades and a half worth of PCs that can still be used in one way or another, Imagine trying to do the same in the mid-2000s. Imagine telling someone that their late 70s machine can still be used on their day-to-day office work and that their late 80s machine could still game
It fucking amazes me how good we live now and still people bitch and moan
There was a guy who joked about "will it run on my 486" on HL2 tech demo presentation. Everyone had a nice laugh because it was some advanced shit they were showing and it was obvious you had to get some good shit to run it. Likewise nobody was surprised you needed top of the line hardware to run Crysis - its presentation was way beyond anything else out at the time.
But when you see modern games demanding hardware that's 2-3 times as powerful as something released 2-3 years ago but still looks like a PS4 title with some fancy but soulless lights rendered in mandatory fake resolution with fake frames - it's hard to justify upgrading for it, especially now that GPUs aren't even made with gaming in mind anymore, either gimped with low VRAM or made for AI with midrange now costing like high. Everything about it feels like a scam, both the games that innovate exactly nothing and still try to milk you, and the hardware that only allows devs to be lazy, outsource everything to jeets and then shift the blame on the customers.
Cyberpunk is the best looking game ever made.
Technically, maybe.
Visually, no.
Objectively, factually, it is the best looking game ever made. It's not a debate.
>b-but I don't like the art style as much
Not my problem.
Cool Mankind Divided screenshot.
Cope.
Genshin Impact looks better
looks like shit compared to this which can run on a potato. which begs the question, why are games so unoptimized yet not even better looking than something released several years ago?
Lol. No, it doesn't. You're poor and have never played Cyberpunk on ultra in 4K.
TW3 looks better
Who do you think made TW3? They massively upgraded their engine to make Cyberpunk. TW3 is objectively inferior.
>They massively upgraded their engine
All the talent left after TW3 because they treated their staff like shit. 2077 was made by interns.
Yeah ok retard.
dumb moron doesn't know anything about the corporation whose cum he's swallowing
lmao
The engine devs left after completing the engine for cyberpunk you retard.
No you idiot, RED was developed for the Witcher, most devs left after W3's release, new people worked on CP with very little knowledge of the engine, and that's why it was such a massive jank, on top of crunches and stupid managmenet decisions.
They're moving to UE because nobody can work on RED anymore.
Haha dumb moron
Arkham City really isn't a good comparison. The game was optimized like utter shit on launch, and I think it took them years to fix it.
It is a good comparison because it's gorgeous and can run on 6+ year old PC's now. it's not like they did much to optimize it other than wait for people to upgrade. If a game can look that good and play that well on garbage PCs, while games that look like Starfield and Cyberpunk can't, then there's something horribly wrong going on inside the brains of the poojeets coding this shit.
>uhmm why does a wildly graphically superior game require more power???
>I'm poor and demand better bawwww!
>graphically superior
No it isn't. It has better tech but it doesn't look any better for using that tech. I can fucking guarantee you they won't make V animations work properly with reflections, even with all the rtx cocksucking they do.
Arkham Knight is significantly inferior to modern games graphically bro.
Also I think you're forgetting that Arkham Knight also ran like shit when it released. It was unironically so bad that it was pulled off Steam for a significant amount of time and they had to apologize and fix it.
>Also I think you're forgetting that Arkham Knight also ran like shit when it released. It was unironically so bad that it was pulled off Steam for a significant amount of time and they had to apologize and fix it.
I think what is kind of sad is that some people don't even realize that happened anymore. Arkham Knight was such a shit show on PC at launch, but some people don't even realize that it happened now which is why shit like that just keeps happening.
>skybox out of 2010
>vegetation look like shit even being barely in the frame
>street is squeaky clean and entirely empty
>barely any wear and tear as if everything is brand new
>post effects out of the ass smearing everything in some weird bloom haze
>lights and billboards are pretty though
This looks "good", nothing more, nothing less.
Only thing here that looks remotely impressive here is light, everything else is basic as fuck. Which is the fucking problem in the first place, industry choose the weirdest fucking thing to push forward. Raytracing while technically impressive is a fucking meme because shadows, light and reflections all can be cheated in with smoke and mirrors and really don't fucking add much to visuals, not as much as good on the fly destructability would add for example. How many years it was since Red Faction games, and we are still not even at that level of terrain interactivity some fucking how in most recent releases.
no, rdr2 takes that crown.
Nope. You can say you prefer rdr2's art style, but objectively it is graphically inferior.
no.
cyberpunk has too many graphical/engine glitches to give it #1.
Then how come cyberpunk looks worse than rdr2 kek
It's not a $1500 GPU looking game. Metro Exodus and Atomic Heart both look better and run better.
The only people who got gimped on VRAM were retarded nvidiot consoomer that bought the 10gb 3080. And some AI models needs lots of VRAM so cards should be getting even more of that.
Sure they will, but it will take some time
Anon forgot to mention, but Nvidea is not ONLY Vram shorting people, but also Bus shorting, New cards all come with narrower busses than the last gen ones while having the same Vram
They are clearly doing this because they are trying to reduce costs on their die productions so they can make as many chips per wafer as possible. Why? because every wafer with consumer chips on it is a wasted slot they could have booked at TSMC for enterprise chips instead, and that is where their money is coming from now
So making lukewarm cards for now is fine for them, even if their competitors start making much better products, they have nothing to worry really
AMD is playing catch up slowly as fuck, their RT solution and AI shit ain't as good, also even if they get their shit together on the Ai front, Nvidea had a such tremendous head start at AI that both Enterprise and consumer-level AI solutions all only run on Nvidia (or on custom ARM shit)
Intel is new to this and nothing older than DX12 runs on those cards so no worries there either
Nvidea really doesn't have to care right now at all
Ive been gaming with a 10gb 3080 for nearly 3 years now and not run into a single instance where the 10gb would gimp me noticably. 3 years, its fucking old and i will prolly dump it next gen or after that. If you think a release day 3080 at msrp was a mistake i pity your parents.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE my ancient 2500k and 760 isn't good enough in 2023
The games still LOOK like they could be played on a 2500K and 760 so of course it should be enough.
Because most modern games are made for 5-10 year old consoles.
Wdym? 4k/60 on ultra with a 3080 is bad?
This entire thread is poor people crying.
When games go up to $79.99 and you can't run games on 1080p ultra on your $6k rig, be sure to remember your post. You lost any right to complain about the gaming industry.
Remember when Todd said that people just needed to upgrade their rigs and people rightfully shat on him? lol
Toddler's game actually looks like shit thoughbeit
Cope
Get a job
>nvme
why so many iops?
Because current gen consoles finally have an SSD so all modern games are jumping to abuse the fuck out of it by putting "invisible" loading screens everywhere.
>play on SSD
>open door
>everything is fine
>play on HDD
>open door
>game stops to load the room
Makes sense, in order to limp consoles across the finish likes there needs to be a loading screen every 10 feet
feels good to be a PS5 chad
Yeah, you get to play 720p upscaled to 4K on lower than low settings at 30fps with dips
Seething pcchud
Same.
Nope, silky smooth 60FPS with no dips.
My gameboy color plays it at 8K/163fps
Why waste your money on a PS5 when a gameboy color can do better?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
4K/60fps with a 3080 without needing upscaling morony
This is actually pretty reasonable
Don't know why CPU requirements are so high though
>without needing upscaling
dlss being on is baked into every non custom graphical setting. That's performance with dlss3.0 enabled
>That's performance with dlss3.0 enabled
And where is your proof?
>esl
>no proof, just assumption
oh so you're a moron
the fact every default preset in the game turns on dlss for Nvidia cards and poorfag dynamic upscaling for AMDlets. not having it on turns your graphic profile to custom. nice little sidestep to the fact adding dynamic police and motorcycles somehow nuked game performance.
No it is not
Look at the screen rec
They always say when they enable a certain feature
4K RT Overdrive is enabled WITH Frame Generation (so dlss 3)
The rest of the settings aren't
>2060S + 7800X3D
>2060 in the same tier as 6800XT
>3080 in the same tier as 7900XTX
what the fuck are they smoking
2077 was always a heavily nvidia sponsored title, Starfield is similar but favoring AMD. Also you're looking at RT settings, the 6000 series WAS that far behind in RT performance.
2060s and 6800xt aren't even close in terms of performance, RT or not, these reqs are just dumb as fuck
Hey man that's not fair to AMD, 6800xt can sort-of compete with 2060
It's over
Don't forget to double everything up
>GTA IV still has the best police system of any openworld crime game
>Cyberpunks rework probably won't come close to that but require a 500+ CPU in order to run it
Are they fucking insane? Are they really releasing an update to a 3 year old game that needs a top of the line pc to run correctly?
And there will be people who defend this shit.
hahahahahaha
a 3 year old gpu/cpu combo isnt that demanding
kino, I want all poorfag third worlders filtered out of my hobby and the industry is heading in that direction more and more with each passing release
3060ti here.
Will i be fine?
It has dlss so yes, you might even be able to turn on 1 ray tracing thingie
6700k chads is our run finally up? It's been a good decade I guess
what’s the problem? hehe
If I can't play your game on 1080p on low settings with at least 60 FPS I'm not playing it. If 5TFlops aren't enough for that then the game devs did a retard job and I simply don't care enough to even pirate it.
the dlc should be the same as the base game, i played the base game on ultra with no issues and it looked amazing
DLSS is the biggest cancer on this industry right now. Basically "yea we do not have to do shit anymore".
>Ryzen 7800x3D for 1080p high and only 60 fps
This is gonna be bad. They should've remade the game in UE 5 to get the hang of it, This is fucking ridiculous. Witcher 4 will be an absolute mess unless they use the Fortnine team.
Haven't they given up on their in house engine for all future games?
Yeah they switched to Unreal Engine. Prepare for some obscene levels of shader compilation stutter in future games.
God bless Tim Sweeney.
>let's make our game unplayable for 85% of people who bought it
Smart move
The Nvidia, Intel and AMD money make up for it, plus the Blackrock bucks.
It makes sense because everyone is buying a new machine to play Starfield anyway. May as well take advantage of that.
>and this is with DLSS set to Performance and FSR 2.0 set to Ultra Performance.
>80% CPU load too
kek Why are people happy about this?
>and this is with DLSS set to Performance and FSR 2.0 set to Ultra Performance.
It isn't.
>DLSS capable card
>not using DLSS
That's not utilizing your hardware to it's full potential, Anon. You're bottlenecking yourself.
Read the fine print gayboy.
It is. If you played cyberpunk you know that all the presets are with dlss/fsr turned on and you have to turn them off. This is not native.
It is native.
If they use DLSS, they mention it, read the caption at the bottom.
They mention frame gen being turned on cause that is not a normal setting turned on with presets. But if you put your preset to low or high it auto defaults to fsr/dlss being on.
>7800X3D required to play at 1080p 60fps without RT
what the fuck are those people thinking
It's not the first time or the last time a spec sheet is retarded. The checks cleared from AMD to advertise their new lineups. AMD out out their own recommended hardware requirements for Starfield and it was literally just their latest generation CPUs and GPUs in ascending order.
What the heck is NVME?
type of ssd
bros Violently Masturbate (with) Eggs
meme version of an SSD that shaves off 0.5 second of loading for 2-3 times the price
You can buy a 500gb nvme for $29 you retarded dweeb.
I got a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro for $150. This isn’t 2010 anymore where SSD are cost prohibitive. Hell Samsung just came out with a 4TB nvme for $350
here's the old spec sheet
Man I'm used to playing 40ish-50ish fps on high native 1080p on my 12400f and 980ti. I guess I gotta drop down to low from now on. Cpu is going to get an upgrade this year but gpu won't until Nvdia 5000 or Amd 8000 is released.
3600 bros......
Just upgrade to a 5800x3d.
that doesnt even hit the requirements for 1080p/60
It's fine, 5800x3d is like 15 fps behind the 7900X in current CP.
Path tracing isn't that demanding actually. I mean, 4080 for 4k with framegen and you get 60fps?
That means you can get 60fps at 1440p with a 70ti/70 with maybe one or two settings turned down
AM4 bros…. its over
>a game from 2020 you need a gpu from 2023 and a CPU from 2022
huh, i hate this shithole industry
>"lol just upgrade your computer"
>"lol ur using a potato pc"
>"lol stop being poor"
>now
>"OH NO WHY CAN'T I RUN THIS?"
You have no one to blame but yourself for letting it get this bad and not telling these greedy gays to go fuck themselves earlier.
so I simply say to you:
lol just upgrade your computer
yeah anon, i bet some anons on Ganker could change the entire gaming industry
>hey normal fags, stop buying the latest trash and tell the retards developers to make the game run
>everyone agree and developers bend the knee
fucking moron
5700xt keeps being perfectly fine
I have a 1440p screen though so I'll likely be on medium-high instead of high outright.
I am, it's fun. I'm starting to think I won't be able to finish it before Phantom Liberty though.
Easily one of my favorite Bethesda games.
Top 3 right now are Oblivion, Daggerfall, and now Starfield. Bye bye Morrowind.
The real question right now is if it'll remain at the 3rd, still only 40 hours in and no mods yet.
Unlike in Starfield you can get decent performance in 2077 with optimized settings. If you are expecting a game that looks like that to run on ancient hardware you cant be helped though.
So what in the fuck did they even change to make up use this much resources? It doesn't look any different.
Does implementing a decent cop response system really hog the CPU this much?
Turboflops. Every time.
The increased load is on the CPU, so it's not the graphics taking up more processing power. It probably is the new AI, the copas and iirc they said they were improving the overall combat AI as well.
The airdrops take a lot of cpu calculations. But also it's because it's just marketing to try and get people to upgrade.
>just marketing to try and get people to upgrade
It's an nvidia sponsored game and nvidia don't make desktop CPUs
its so fucking over
im glad i dont like that shit setting at all
wont miss much
90% of 8 cores dam
It was already using 90% with the Ryzen fix on my 3700X guess its time to upgrade CPU
Windows already uses 1-10% of your CPU threads cuz its shit linux is half of windows
WTF
1080p 60 fps Non RT = Latest 7800X3D, RT Low = 5600, RT Ultra = 7900X knew it above 8 cores = 12 cores minimum
16 cores will be required for future games to be comfortable
Always double the core requirement for comfort breathing room cuz of OS windows and several applications like CPU and RAM hogging chromium engine browser and steam
20 GB RAM for Non RT and RT Ultra graphics preset
Ray tracing requires NVME instead of Sata SSD
RT Overdrive is complete meme right now reminds me of Witcher 2 Ubersampling remember that option ate away fps more than RT
CDPR already announced that they're moving to UnrealEngine
Most of the people who worked with their old Red Engine have already left
cuz
and old fags above already left its only millenial coders there now who have no clue for their Red Engine
Yea you fucked up
Not even 7700X or 7800X3D, Peerless Assassin
So my i5-12400f can only do 30-ish FPS after this patch? So fucking dumb.
imagine shortening the lifespan of your 4090 rtx PC to play a mediocre fps with no optional third person view
Play Todd's game instead
Todds "game" is literally a tech demo for TES6
There was a time I would pirate AAA games to try them, now I don't bother.
You make Fallout 4-3 sound better than it is.
Yeah, the problem is the glorification.
TODD FORGIVE ME I LOVE STARFIELD OKAY IM REINSTALLING IT NOW I PROMISE. CYBERSHIT MEANT NOTHING TO ME!
I forgot to mention but I am trans btw
nope i just detransition afer seeing how 100% of the trans are crazy pedophiles
Todd's game crashes to the desktop every 30mins or so. I'm waiting for modders to fix Todd's game before I touch it again.
Sounds like you need to download more ram
skill issue, I haven't had it crash once on my i5 6600k and 1070
How many fps do you get? I have a similar pc
>Shortening
Everybody is running 4090 with a 90% powercap at least and getting the same performance with less issues.
I’m playing Bloodborne tho
>imagine shortening the lifespan of your 4090 rtx PC to play a mediocre fps with no optional third person view
>
>Play Todd's game instead
>play a shitty version of fallout 4 in ((space))
Kek
Imagine wasting 125gb + mods + tip of SSD space to play an extra boring 3D Starbound.
Play Armhahaha just kidding you retards, nothing with a significant marketing budget is worth playing this year.
>no optional third person view
Good, fuck third person morons. Third person, even optional, makes games worse.
>Good, fuck third person morons. Third person, even optional, makes games worse.
yeah gta is a shit series I agree.
Sorry Xbot. I rather play a real space game.
I hate that people bring up NMS so much when it's a garbage fucking game, there's literally no reason to play it for fucking sight seeing or launching a ship from space, it's fucking pointless and an ugly ass game with horrible pop-in even on the highest settings. Every planet is the same after you visit 20, all the plants and fauna might be different but it doesn't fucking matter if i've already seen them on another type of planet, who fucking cares if TOXIC PLANET 2 has plants and other shit on it that i've already seen? Sure it has a lot of variety but it has the exact same problem as Starfield, everything is the fucking same. Plants are the same no matter the biome, animals are the same no matter the biome, flying your ship to places LITERALLY SERVES NO PURPOSE in NMS other than as a waste of time, NMS space combat is exactly the same as Starfields.
It's mostly one guy that brings it up
$200 million+
instead of even a small transition of flying towards a planet or solar system, we get dark skinned people over-represented by 2000%+.
todd is an embarrassment.
ryzen 7 5800x3D with an AIO I'll be fine
why the fuck do we need 4k pcs to play games at 1080p that look worse than RD2 which came out 5 years ago
This makes me nervous. If it's that poorly optimized then they obviously need more time to work on it.
….so take off all your clothes
I am getting hot so I'm gon' take my clothes off
>15 hours expansion pack of listening to Keanu's drivel in your head again, this time with Idris Elba
yippie...
Afaik they mostly switch Reeves with new character, Songbird or whatever.
*shlop shlop shlop console limitations shlop shlop shlop*
Will there be an update that removes the dogshit story?
then upgrade.
>one single literal who
>a company known to work fucking magic when it comes to optimization to improve graphics and have their games run on toasters
Why isGanker so retarded nowadays? Those recommendations are always overblown because retards tend to have sorry systems with some no name parts in them in a case that's more akin to a sauna box then a pic tower.
a single literal who has more credibility than your army of pajeets and trannies shilling your ESGpunk shlock
meds
Still meds. Using the 90% of cards is not woke, retard.
Like 8 actual core or virtual """core""" ?
The base CP has excellent multicore optimization. Probably the best one on the market.
Aren't most CPUs going to start throttling well before the PC "overheats" the way a console does?
I know intel stock coolers this gen are utter garbage even for low end offerings, but still.
They thermal throttle at around 100 C but running your shit at 90 C for extended periods id obviously bad and ruins the longevity of you components
>just ordered a 14-core, 28-thread kit
Let's see how things will go.
>bad singlecore perf
>games have low fps
Multiple cores are still a meme for gsming
So like. What happens with these old games getting huge updates if you cant run the new requirements?
Are you just shit out of luck that the game you could play fine 5 years ago you paid for got updated and you just cant run it anymore?
Am i ever gonna be able to play the witcher 3 again after they made it ray tracing and shit?
I guess they expect people to upgrade their rigs once in a while.
Do you think i could theoretically get a steam refund if i owned cp77 and they literally just made it unplayable on my rig thats run it fine since release?
Surely steam wouldnt stand for this
You have to cross your fingers and pray the devs preserve old versions or take steps to do it yourself.
CDPR did preserve Witcher 3 but CP77 is much less likely.
If you bought it on gog you can always just download the offline installers now if you're worried
>just FOMO and download 100GB worth of shit now in case they arbitrarily delete it later on
Fuck off retard.
>downloading something you already purchased and own is FOMO
ok retarded tech illiterate zoommoron, guess you're shit out of luck and have to swallow whatever the corporation shits onto your plate, as you're used to.
I guarantee you those offline installers are going to disappear when the update drops. It's literally standard practice, retard.
So you're complaining that old versions of a game aren't going to be available until the end of time? Literally no storefront does this, go pirate it if you care that much.
Yes. It should be illegal.
>should
What are you going to do about it?
Can't say.
Damn it feels good to be an Xbox series X alpha male.
still better than starslop, sorry fags l
I'm playing both Starfield and Cyberpunk on my Xbox Series X
>I'm playing both Starfield and Cyberpunk on my Xbox Series X
jelly
I also own a series x, but how the fuck can you stand playing at 30fps? I've skipped every single game that doesn't have at least a performance mode.
my eyes adjust to it after a few minutes, it's no big deal, I grew up playing janky low framerate stuff on consoles and my toaster computers
I was hoping this update would fix the game so I could actually enjoy it.
> I'm playing both Starfield and Cyberpunk on my Xbox Series X
hey I have a 2500k @ 5.2ghz, is it time to upgrade?
I can't imagine playing this game on a console, it is easily one of the best looking games out on PC right now. Genuinely the first time since KCD where I was blown away with graphics in a vidya game. Hopefully I can get a new CPU soon because full path tracing looks insane.
was the anime KINO?
why are you 16?
Yeah it was pretty kino
one of the most basic story you can get + they added a prostitute e-boi just to make coomers shill for the game
But I was assured that Cyberpunk was good now
What is wrong with this? It isn't anything new, a lot of games use around 80% of your cpu. Especially open world games that are cpu intensive.
>a lot of games use around 80% of your cpu
Maybe if your CPU is a quad core from 10 years ago
I've never seen any game use more than 50% of my 5800x, including current patch cyberpunk.
Are the civilians any better yet?
Before they just walked in a rectangle up and down the block they spawned on
They haven't mentioned anything so I doubt it
It really is a big immersion destroyer having AI that's barely any smarter than GTA3 npcs.
why would an update make the game's system spec requirements worse?
this is the opposite of an improvement
System requirements are the same for the fidelity you had previously, they’ve just added another tier on top of what they already supported.
They aren't.
why the significant upgrade in cpu requirements?
AI that isnt held back by previous gen consoles.
They have to actually program cop AI now
4970k chads... its over...
>4790k beats 6700 on goybenchmark
nice try, but i'm keeping my 4790 till the day i die
Because they're upgrading the visuals, xbone and PS4 are not getting the update so they don't have to accommodate them anymore.
wait they don't get a single improvement?
EVERYTHING IS FIXED
that's not bunnyhopping you subhuman zoomer trash
sovl
bunny hopping is so cringe
I don't have a problem with this
You can betray the chud and he drives off suicidal because you fucked up his lifelong revenge plot
Cyperpunk genre is inherently dystopian, chuds SHOULD be in it, they help sell the world as being a degenerate shithole.
chuds are a fad they shouldnt be in anything not contemporary
cyberpunk genre isn't contemporary, it's retro-futuristic with some sci-fi mixed in
autogynephilia and other disorders that result in chuds has existed forever and will likely continue, regardless of how public perception is influenced by ~~*those in power*~~
>YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING SOMEONE LIKE ME, HE WAS THE ONLY MAN IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD WHO EVER LOVED ME
Buddy, if you're having a harder time finding love than fucking a Maelstrom member, that's on you, not society.
Makes no sense in the game, terrible character, makes going into the Afterlife annoying for the rest of the game.
>claire is 100% woman
>who just so happens to have a penis
>and who owns a car repair shop
>and enjoys doing things men do
>trans
>absolutely no modifications
Fucking why then? I guess in 2077 you have proper cyberware to act on your delusion. How even this gay got to find plastic surgeons who still work in old-school way?
>people are going to get scammed by cyberpunk twice
don't worry, some gamers love to get scammed by europoors games
>build new pc
>buy game
>justwerks
>few years later
>game gets improvement update
>Literally does not eork on your system anymore
>cant play game you paid for without spending 2k on a new pc
Why is this allowed unironically
Klaus.
It's a DRM free game, download it wherever you bought it from and you've got it forever
This is not an issue for anyone who isn't a complete retard
Maintaining products falls under the purvey of digital storefronts, not consumers.
downloading a game isn't maintaining anything, and even if it was,
>falls under the purvey of digital storefronts, not consumers
according to which laws?
>hurr but da laws
Are you really so whipped that your idea of right and wrong is dictated entirely by your government? Seriously?
Extreme mega autists tend to only have weak moral compasses based on logic, and it stands to logic that if its illegal its bad
So they really do just let the law entirely dictate fheir sense of right and wrong
No, I'm of the belief that people should archive shit they care about themselves, any product or service that is hosted online can be removed or negatively changed at any time for no reason. Download shit you care about and keep backups.
>but I'm too dumb
>but I'm too cheap to buy hard drives
Sucks to be you, I guess. The internet could go down tomorrow and I'll still be able to play any game I remotely care about. If you're just going to complain without doing anything about it then your words are worthless.
You arent entirely wrong but you seriously dont think a company who sells you a product should be held to some standard of keeping the product you fucking paid for accessible
>b-but they cant be
Because fags like you roll with these punches
that standard is held by making consumer friendly laws you fucking retarded american gorilla moron
>muh government bad, weak moral compass lmao
It's better held by plain old violence.
i would agree but big business are too decentralized, beating up a couple managers is not enough of a solution long term
Big business calls for big solutions.
Based.
What do you have in mind?
Putting in some overtime huh?
I'm just beyond caring at this point, normalfags control every single market. The majority are cattle who will gladly give up their rights for any minor convenience that a corporation and come up with.
>tell them what they're doing is wrong!
>vote with your wallet!
cattle will still pay them billions, get burned, then buy the next product because the TV/e-celeb told them to.
I pirate everything, if it's good then I'll throw the company a couple bucks and keep my pirated copies. I'm so far beyond caring about whatever armchair activism a couple randoms on the internet try to promote, it's a lost cause.
>trusting a company
>a PUBLICLY traded company at that
You get what you deserve.
I gave the devs money so I wouldn't have to do this shit, retard.
if I have to source an older version of the game through some sketchy website anyways then why did I buy the game in the first place?
>The government can step in and seize everything you own any time for no reason. Don't like it? Boohoo.
You want some polish to wash down the taste of boot?
>The government can step in and seize everything
Yes, they can
What are you doing to prevent this from happening?
You dont become a folk heri without a few claymore roombas
Hero
Stop fishing glowie.
This is why Trump lost, chud. And Muslims are taking over Europe.
>And Muslims are taking over Europe.
hope they take over everything and throw your ilk off of roofs
My ilk? They aren't gonna come get me, I don't live in Europe.
whoa mohamed it seems you forgot how to write in your seething
meds
they did it to the witcher 3 too
>tfw your cpu is already designed to run at 100c under any kind of load
CP PL is most likely going to be the definitive best looking game ever made going by the system requirements.
People who invested in a 4000 series gpu and a x3d cpu should have something going their way too.
is this really that bad?
th-they're fast!
I've never seen it be that blatant before, but yeah the way they handle NPCs has been complete garbage.
modded, i've literally never had that many NPC's disappear at once ever
>the future of video games is every update making the game run worse
why
because people get mad about performance but it doesn't stop them from paypigging for games, therefore the incentive to optimize simply isn't there
engine is shit and always will be, they need to move onto unreal 5 already.
Ganker is literally never right about anything, mainly because it's full of console shitters and turd worlders and fevela monkeys with patato teir PC's
>*
Will my R5 7600X be good enough? I just upgraded goddamit
You chose not to upgrade to a x3d cpu on am5
I mean it's a lot more expensive and the 7600 has the same performance as the 5800x3D on average
What? Every single game uses 99% cpu, it's the gpu usage these devs need to prioritize
why do poorfags expect their toasters to run games that use cutting edge graphics tech? was Ganker this stupid when Crysis released?
I just upgraded my PC and I was going to upgrade to 1440p but I think I'll stay at 1080 because of those requirement
bro, your DLSS?
Oh yeah you're right, I have this frame gen thing too
>1080
>i5-9400
How fucked am I?
You'll be fine at 30fps. A 1060 could pull 45 in the base game.
you're playing cyberpunk
the only way you're getting more fucked is if you ordered a dragon dildo
That just means the game is running ahead of technology. I don't recall any bitching when no one could run Crysis at max settings back then.
>I don't recall any bitching
You weren't even born then
>trying to use age as an insult
how adorable
almost as adorable as thinking no one complained about crysis on release
>tfw 3900x
Is it time for an upgrade?
I'm rarely playing theses days but consoles feel like the best choice to just don't give an f and play what you want with no stress. Cheap gaming laptop will take core of PC indies, console will take care of demanding titles. win win and money stays in your pockett
Why cant devs optimize for shit anymore?
Name some path traced games that don't use CPU?
>high utilization of 8 cores that the developer clearly boasts about, therefore clearly means it's utilized well and not unoptimized
>"why cant devs optimize for shit anymore?"
dimwit
Cyberspunk doesn't even have AI, why is it hammering the CPU so hard?
ray tracing is extremely CPU (and GPU) intensive
2.0 improves a lot on the AI, police coming from afar and finding you, chasing you, improved combat AI etc. I imagine these would be in the game from the get go if they didnt have to optimize for the previous consoles which they dropped now
He’s literally me
This is why I always play new AAA titles on PS5.
PC is for old games.
Playing at 720p 30fps on PS5 will make new games feel very old
All PC games are busted. Please cope more.
this but unironically, i can just put a game on on my playstation 5 and it will run at 4k perfectly while you bros struggle at 720p lmao
We're fine NVIDIAbros, DLSS 3.5 doesn't even work yet and will be added with 2.0. Better performance ahead!
>he fell for it again
AHAHAHAHA
I'm not defending RED shitters but if you didn't put enough time and money into a build that doesn't shit itself on full load it's kind of your fucking fault
you are defending them rn lmao
Why, because I'm telling people to use their common sense?
You should be able to hit a wall hard and not have it fall down is all I'm saying. This goes for any game or software. You don't know if a random fucking unoptimized piece of shit in the future is going to melt your shit. I despise the fuck out of everyone who acts all smart after putting out a build then complains about overheating, random restarts or ports not working properly because they decided to just cheap out on stuff like coolers, mobos and PSUs.
you're preaching to the void, people here don't want to learn to pc build, they'd rather just watch some youtube jackass who says to spend 20 dollars on their cooler then bitch about it later
this is what I ordered yesterday
did I fuck up somewhere
>inb4 mATX in ATX
I KNOW
tbh the biggest upgrade for me was getting a Fractal Torrent case and a good Noctua CPU cooler.
I don't know what your case is but check reviews or watever to see if airflow is good. My previous case would cook my GPU but my current one keeps the 3080 at like 65 degrees at max load.
I did think about the Fractal Torrent but it was just too expensive for me
I may end up getting one of these days though
What's your CPU? I kind of cheapened out with my CPU cooler because mine apparently doesn't heat up too much
i7-13700k, it can run pretty hot
To add to that, i wouldn't cheap out on the CPU too much. I feel like if you ever use ray tracing or even DLSS or play at 1440p, CPU does tend to make a difference.
I guess it depends on how sensitive you are to microstutters. I can't stand them so I went with a good CPU.
If you're running AMD, I've heard the 3D cache ones are pretty solid.
>If you're running AMD, I've heard the 3D cache ones are pretty solid.
Yeah 5800x3D and 7800x3D are the best of their respective socket type but I think any AM5 AMD CPU is going to be a solid choice now
I bought a Fractal Focus and the layout is pretty good, the GPU gets a ton of space for airflow and the case is not that expensive
Should have gone 2x32 or single 32 for future upgrade. 32 will be low in a year or two. No problems with the rest.
How much of a dip would be getting a single 32 over 2x16? I am open for considering it, but 2x32 is a bit too much for my budget at the moment
>and that's a good thing
Unironically yes.
CDPR is literally bragging about good cpu util and some mentally ill low IQ retarded Ganker users make posts saying its a bad thing
how over is it bros
just upgrade, i gave up on my 8700k earlier this year, was fucking sick of literally every game being stuttering dogshit
Why would it be over? Are you trying to play it full gaytracing?
This is why I always use second to max settings in video games. I'm not torturing my hardware for that last bit of performance.
i dont want to spend 80€
sale fucking when?
PL is 30€
i dont have the base game its full price on steam
it came out 3 years ago
you had a few chances to buy it on sale
i just now got a new pc
Im sure theres some goty version sale soon
Use Allkeyshop.
Wait for the DLC launch day, most probably there will be 50% off base game.
WAKE THE FUCK UP SAMURAI, WE HAVE A CPU TO BURN
>tfw my friend who plays on a toaster was looking forward to this expansion
I think PC gamers are complicated.
I mean, companies expect to have a well-built pc and getting no parts over years (to keep it "new"), but we got people who still have Windows 7, a nvidia 1600 or the PC covered in dust.
Aside prices, WE are keeping the gaming behind.
The problem is that we are held back by the lowest of the low thirdworlders when even consolefags spend $500 every 7 years.
>hardware pushing games are early PS3 looking titles Cyberpunk and Starfield
Gaymen should be kept behind.
Not my problem I properly cool my computer.
I just want to give this dogshit ass game a second chance after almost four years bruh, why are they making these posts a week before release?
As far as I'm concerned late 2020/early 2021 this game is a 6/10 at best, the less side content you do and the faster you beat it the better the score, the more side content you do and play with its "systems" the worse it becomes. Genuinely hope that 2.0 eradicates a lot of the issues with mid-late game and makes the world feel more alive with side content being actually worthwhile because holy fuck did it suck three years back. Also, call me crazy but Starfield gunplay feels better than CP77, and as shallow as Starfield's RPG systems are, they are somehow still better executed than CP77 also, what the fuck.
I think the problem was less the systems and more most of the side content sucking. Most side missions are just
>get to a place
>fixer monologues in your ear
>you go in and kill everyone
Like even taking the actual execution of the mission aside, the setup is usually done in a way where I just don't give a fuck about it because I haven't even met any of the parties involved. Fixers should have pointed you to contacts who then give you the actual mission so there's more of a human element to it. It also prevents the issue the game has where you'll go from one and a half hour dialogue scenes to not talking to anyone at all for several hours.
pretty much, it felt soulless and borderline AI/procedurally generated.
I was hyped because I thought CP2077 was jank as fuck with a good core but it turns out it doesn't even any qualities other than the visuals?
nah, the game is fundamentally mediocre in anything but visuals.
CDPR. The great CDPR.
But seriously, great optimization.
>Xeon 2689
I'm fine
Man there is a lot of seething poors ITT
yeah their complaints only beg the question of "what the fuck do you even want"
If they bought the game and update they literally cant even play it anymore, what else could they want but to play it?
in what sense cant they play cp
updated system specs that are 2-3x stronger
dont buy the dlc then
The update is for everyone regardless if you buy the dlc or not, but hey keep malding i dont even own the game and wont play it when better games like skyrim exist
the updates system specs are for the pl
It says update 2.0 in the pic too, and the 2-0 update is free
how would they up the visuals for the entire base game and charge nothing for it
because theyre putting to effort into it, and are just letting dlss do all the work and let everyone else get fucked
thats retarded and the updated system requirements are for PL area only
yes it retarded and no the updated system requirements are not only for pl area
>the updated system requirements are for PL area only
Nope.
>what the fuck do you even want
I want to play the game I paid for without having to spend another 1500 bucks on PC upgrades.
man I wish we could save Jackie
It's fucking insane. They DEMAND newest games with newest groundbreaking tech to run on their 5yo toaster.
It's always retarded zoomers. In '06 highest end hardware could run Oblivion at 30 fps, not to mention Crysis on '07 PCs
>getting CP content at release
Imagine not having learned your mistake from last time, while at the same time having a prime example of why you should wait before buying big games play out right before your eyes in real time.
I expect it to be unplayable until Christmas at the very earliest.
>retards think 100% load for shit performance is acceptable and a great thing
The absolute state of Ganker
Moron.
Everyone who is happy about a 90% load is a retard who doesn't realize that performance will in the crapper and they'll just say "Better buy new hardware, chump". You people are the morons.
Better buy yourself top of the line hardware so it gets maxed out by something that barely ran on the latest hardware at the time of release. KYS.
They did and it will be even worse than this in therms of performance because retards don't know how to utilize resources properly and just put everything on blast.
Cyberpunk is the benchmark now
I will not download CP2.0
fuck yeah another cyberpunk anime!
>Ryzen 5600
>6700 XT
>16 GB DDR4
Am I fucked bros?
it's impossible to max out both CPU and GPU at the same time retard, one of them will always bottleneck the other
>a game from 3 years ago should utilize 100% modern hardware regardless of the performance
You should understand what CDPR is telling you when they say they'll load your CPU for all it's worth. You won't get good performance retard.
Can someone explain to me how DLSS works with games that support it proper? Like I have an RTX 3060 laptop, pretty much all modern games run 1080p60 on high-ultra but since it has a 120hz monitor, I would just switch on DLSS and set it to Quality and it would keep similar visual quality but boost fps out the ass or what?
well it takes stuff like vector data and AI training to guess what shade a pixel should be between real pixels when upscaling from lower res to target res
and supposedly it uses less power so your PC runs 5-10c cooler also?
watt per frame certainly goes down
DLSS runs the game at a lower resolution than your monitor's native (thus getting more fpas) and then uses upscaling and sharpening magic to make up for the loss of pixels. The goal is to achieve higher framerates without sacrificing image quality.
makes sense I used to think that DLSS only works with proper displays that can go beyond their "optimal" resolution, like using a 24" 1440p monitor @ 2160p and then downscaling it back to 1440p so you get visual fidelity between 1440p and 2160p but also increase FPS by a bit.
Theres "downsampling" which is computationally more expensive way to generate a smoother image in games
Dlss is pretty great since it removes need for other AA and the image quality can be better than native with cheap AA options
sounds sick, sadly since I got the laptop I haven't really played games that had DLSS or it wasn't relevant enough (games already ran at +100fps on near max), gonna give it a spin in a week once CP77 2.0 drops.
Exactly, it's black magic and better than FSR on AMD games, even
digital foundry brought up that DLSS actually looks better than starfield native + TAA
the Starfield DLSS mod legit or another placebo trying to fix an awfully coded game?
Well it works but it doesnt mean starfield is well optimized for nvidia gpus or any cpu
>have AMD
>get stuck with FSR since DLSS doesn't run well
>FSR is literal trash
why...
Waits so the game actually uses your cpu cores to maximum efficiency sounds great
It puts a load on them for the sake of load and when you get 30fps on your 4090, they can call you a poor for not having a 5090
Lol get a better cpu retard any game with large crowds is gonna be cpu intensive.
it does not, all it does it reduce the lifespan of your rig , its a game not a tech demo running high temps for hours its gonna kill your shit in less than a year
Stop samefagging you poorfag retard.
seek help mentailly ill moron
>all it does it reduce the lifespan of your rig
Only if you've got a rig with shitty cooling. It's not like 30% utilization does meaningfully less "wear" to the chip than 90% utilization. That's not the way this shit works.
Opposite , A higher wattage and power draw will wear done the components, your gpu is not made for this kind of thing regardless if your cooling and thermalpaste its ok, ask any scalper or miner what happen to their shit every year.
Show me electron microscope images of chips demonstrating "wear" from 90% utilization that could be avoided by only having used 70% utilization instead. Heat damage does not count. That's a failure in cooling setup.
>your gpu is not made for this kind of thing
It literally is. This is not a car. You're not over revving it by going to full utilization. You just need to worry about getting rid of the heat. That's it.
That's why its releasing during winter?
>winter
I wish it was winter. Fucking heatwave has damn near killed me this week. I've literally turned down my settings on Starfield so my PC doesn't overheat me.
>heatwave
Buy AC, retard
Winter doesn't start for another two months anon
PChuds lose yet again kek. MASTER RACE????? LOL!!!!!!
Don't speculate about the performance because by all means this release is probably buggy as hell anyway and needs 50 different hotfixes.
turn the graphics down.
that wasn't so hard was it
It's CPU load, not GPU. So you have to do things like turn down pedestrian density.
Triple A gaming is so fucking done, we shouldn't be using current Gen gpus and cpus for 1080p 60fps. 1080p gaming should've unironically been solved with the 1000 series Nvidia gpus and 6000 series Intel cpus.
It's all artificial and inflated because of these corporations. Combine this with nu-game devs and Work From Home "software engineers" who were hired from some backstreet.
can my 1070 handle the heat?
nuGanker is full of low iq consumer-cucks and so tech-illiterate they genuinely believe anything a company says. So if they say its the customers fault their product runs like dog-shit Ganker will defend [company] to the death.
You must have a very shitty cpu cooler if that causes it to overheat. But thanks to cyberpunk I gotta upgrade my cpu. An i5 12400f is just 6 cores and 8 cores are recommended thanks to this update.
People are so fucking clueless about semiconductors. All these dumbasses who invest in liquid cooling and shit to stay below 40 celsius, when all of their hardware can work perfectly up to 90.
>Tfw 7950x3D and RTX 4090
I'm ready.
>never build a PC before
>was a gayman laptop fag for years
>build one that is supposed to be slotted into a TV rack to the point the case itself is just a few CM smaller than where I place it
>drill 2 small holes on the rack itself for ventilation
>expect fully well that the system will always be thermal throttling like my laptops because of cooling
>CPU and GPU never thermal throttle and usually stay below 70c even on synthetic loads and heavy AI generation shit
Why do I see so many fuckers bitching and moaning about their PCs overheating? I am not a smart man, I just bought shit and put it together, my PSU is not even that good because I ran out of money, my cooler is some random cooler master shit I can't even find on PC parts picker, my PC is inside a cabinet under my TV, how the fuck I have better airflow than half of the people bitching and moaning around that CyberPunk will actually use the CPU, unlike every other game that barely cracks 10% of CPU usage nowadays?
I hope it explodes your PC bitch
Why are you so salty? I just told you I probably have way worse airflow than your rig, why are you so salty that I ain't overheating?
Go fucking fix your airflow god damn it
Fucking clean your air filters, unclog that heatsink, change the fucking thermal paste
A lot of people live in places where 30-40 degree weather are common.
take the undervolting pill. same performance at 50% of max temp. Also a cooler room in the summer.
you NEED to do it. All motherboards right now blast your cpu with BBC size voltage so they score higher on reviews
People that complain about games "overheating" their systems or high utilization are so fucking retarded. Fix your garbage cooling.
>mmm watcha say
>i5-2700k
>3060TI
>32 GB Ram
I’m good, right?
should i buy phantom chungus or not?
11400 here
am i basepilled enough to play the game?
integer scaling 4k screen 1080p settings chad here
we stay winning
>i9-13900K
>Performance-cores: 8
>Efficient-cores: 16
>Total Threads: 32
I'm ready. Glad this wasn't released during one of the heat waves in summer so I can enjoy it without crashes.
reminder that 30 fps might be cancer, but literally 2 more fps makes it so much smoother.
if you have gsync/freesync/adaptive sync and can't get a good framerate, just use rtss to set it to 32-40 and you're golden.
it helps to get used to it by dropping down to 16 fps for 5-15 minutes and then switching it back up to 32 to feel buttery smooth.
After building my PC and spending an autistict amount of time choosing each parts, I really do like my PS5 a lot more.
The level of visual quality it can deliver for the price is definitely impressive, especially when compared to a PC.
PS3 had less value compared to PC in 2012 than the PS5 today.
Wait, how are consoles going to handle this? I dont think PS5 has water cooling?
Is it even the same update for them?
Probably because it's bullshit and anyone taking this seriously is retarded.
i7- 11800H (seems to be on par with 11400)
16GB RTX 3080 Mobile (seems to be a little better than a 3060 Ti but not quite as good as a 3070. It shits on the 3060 Ti in furmark benches, though)
Will I be able to play on 1080/60 ultra?
Its going to be a broken mess again. Welp gonna wait another 3 years before its finally playable....again....
>Welp gonna wait another 3 years before its finally playable....again....
not this time. they're pretty much abandoning it for witcher 4 since they're moving to unreal engine 5. if it's unplayable now, it's up to you to upgrade.
I have a decent pc, I can run and play it just fine on reccomended settings I'm saying it's going to be a riddled bug fest all over again.
>it’s a broken mess at launch, it will never be fixed
>save files are getting to bloated and corrupted, it will never be fixed
>they have already abandoned it, it will never be fixed
>they will never make DLC for it, it will never be fixed
>they will never release an expansion for it will never be fixed
>they will never upgrade the perk trees to make it a better RPG, it will never be fixed
YOU ARE NOW HERE
>the expansion that was never coming out will be buggy, and never be fixed
Perks aren't the problem with cyberpunk, there's nothing in the game to actually do
Apparently that’s getting fixed with either 2.0 or PL, but they aren’t saying with what exactly
Doubtful, the game is designed as a sandbox with zero sandbox elements, they're not fixing that in a single dlc
This, it's actually much more appropriate to describe cyberpunk as wide as an ocean deep as a puddle
>beat game
>should be around 50+ hours if you do everything, or 20+ if just focusing on the main story
>"WHY ISN'T THERE MORE GAME?"
lol. what more do you want? it's not a sandbox game, it's a wrpg. just because it looks like gta doesn't make it gta.
>just because it looks like gta doesn't make it gta
well considering they advertised it as a big gta style variety game in a massive city it should. instead all the advertising content was from the fucking start montage
>refuse to optimize your game since frame generation is a thing now
>forget that the most popular card is still the gtx 1060
FSR3 will save the day
why do so many games demand M2 SSDs now?
All games are outsourced to Chinese sweatshops now
cyberpunk fucking sucks, i'll be glad when everyone remembers this