Again, you are bland
A god is not a depiction of reality, they are a depiction of the sublime, the unattainable aspiration
1 year ago
Anonymous
Being fricking 7-8 feet tall and wide like a mountain is aspirational in its own way. For a character like Thor, this design seems reasonable enough
Kratos (being Greek) is closer to that ideal whereas Thor embodies the concept of strength for a northern people
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why are you projecting contemporary ideals on ancient mythology? Ancient Greeks idolized small dicks, up until the Late Middle Ages being fat was a symbol of status. A great warrior back then looked more like a truck driver than Chris Hemsworth. You're making the mistake of falling for blonde hair, blue eyed Jesus.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You're making the mistake of falling for blonde hair, blue eyed Jesus.
lol you just couldn't help but pull out this israelite plebbitor seethe
1 year ago
Anonymous
no complaint that it's inaccurate, no complaint that it's not what's going on, just complaint that it was used at all
1 year ago
Anonymous
Damn. Shot the retvrngay with his own gun.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol no he's just another ancient mythological figure that people projected their own image onto thousands of years later.
Thor has red hair more often than not in the myths. He was sometimes referred to as "red beard." Marvel's Thor has little to do with mythology: comic book artists don't (generally) read their sources, they just grab what looks cool.
Cory/Corey Barlog was the director and one of the main writers for GOW 2018. GOW 2018's depictions of the gods and its vision for Ragnarok varies wildly from what the sequel ends up doing, which subverts or outright ignores much of the setup of the prior game. What makes this interesting is that Cory Barlog isn't credited as a writer for GOW: Ragnarok. But there's a lot of new writers there that weren't there for the prior game.
>and odin wasn't even mentioned once
Odin was brought up a lot in 2018. Made him seem significantly more of a c**t than he actually ended up being in Ragnarok, although I despise how they made him into some american sitcom tier character.
Idk where you revisionists are getting your info but Ragnarok doubles down on showing just how depraved Odin is. He wasn't just a prick who stole magic and betrayed people, he enslaved the dwarves, magic creatures, genocided entire nations. Odin was literally Hitler. And Thor isn't just a ravenous warrior, he's more like a psychotic serial killer who kills anything within reach and goes out of his way to murder indiscriminately.
The story does even feel like it's missing a beat. Are you even playing the game or just echoing what you hear in Ganker?
>and odin wasn't even mentioned once
Odin was brought up a lot in 2018. Made him seem significantly more of a c**t than he actually ended up being in Ragnarok, although I despise how they made him into some american sitcom tier character.
His death sequence sucked, but yeah I thought he was OK else wise. I don't get what they're were going for with it. A foil to kratos who was able to find another way to live outside being murderhobo, while thor could not and thus lost all fight and will to live/continue on? Otherwise I really just don't get it.
I tried watching a stream of this to see some random gameplay, and it was 15-20 minutes of cringe, soi dialogue. it was like a CW drama for women. seeing the follow up be exactly as gay and stupid as I expected has been very satisfying.
lol no
gameplay is unimproved from the previous game and the story is just as bad as the dialogue, a rather disappointing followup to the previous game too
Obese morons on /v don't understand the difference between actual muscle and hypertrophy >Why isn't he a muscly super hero!!!!
Because actual strongmen aren't body builders.
Shut the frick up amerimongoloid, being a fat piece of shit won't make you beat someone in a fight, muscles is what will let you actually beat someone.
No one said anything about fat being better than muscle in a fight moron, the point is strongmen have a healthy balance of both. Their size comes as a natural result of having fricking massive bulging muscles combined with eating healthy. If they're fat then so are you.
>healthy balance of both
You obviously don't know strongman. Every strongman is told by their doctors to quit because it isn't good for their health. Have you seen how fricking fat both people that dead lifted 500kg had to get to lift it? They both had to immediately lose weight after doing it.
Are a bunch of fatasses who would get wrecked in the kind of ancient & medieval melee combat depicted in fantasy games. It's not a functional, go-to-war physique. Most of the great warriors probably looked like D1 college wrestlers, i.e. shredded.
>This thing ended up being a better boss with a hammer than fricking THOR
America unironically needs to stop trying since they obviously became pozzed, they should just starting funding japanese games just like that cyberpunk anime, basically give them the money and say what you want.
Honestly, I just played the first 2 hours and I gotta say, I can see this beating Elden wienerring for GoTY. It's really well done. Have a great story, fantastic visuals, and well some decent combat - not my favorite, but it passes.
Who is Corey? I'm honestly enjoying it. Is it the *best* game I've ever played? No, but it is good and it's fun. It's your typical sony game, so it's not particularly hard, but I Norse mythology and the theme and the setting...
It's a good game, deal with it.
>Who is Corey?
Not him but are you stupid, underage, or legitimately this out of the loop? Cory Barlog is the fricking creator of God of War (Who I believe didn't direct this project which would explain the weird ass dialogue)
More evidence Thor was originally supposed to look more like Magni before they changed their minds and made him look more like Modi instead. Except somehow he looks even more pathetic than Modi.
It's amazing how much they hype up Thor as this indomitable force of nature rampaging his way across the realms, and in the end he not only ends up being less impressive than Baldur, he goes down like a chump. Oh, and there's multiple mentions of Asgardian palaces, too.
But clearly keeping continuity with prior writing was less important than subverting our expectations.
>Spends the entire game either moping or drunk or both >Both the intro fight and the rematch are horribly unimaginative and gets mogged by the Baldur fight in the first game (the Thor fights don't feel like a fight between gods at all) >Is either being a submissive son to Odin or being pussywhipped by Sif (she convinced him to attack Atreus after just a few moments ago they worked together) >Gets killed immediately after the very first time he shows rebellion to Odin >His corpse bizarrely disappears and doesn't stay unlike other killed Gods
Thor is one of the biggest disappointments of this game. And it has nothing to do with his visual design.
Pretty sure he’s going to come back or some other bullshit. It’s an alright game and it’s nice to look at. I also think it’s a decent conclusion to kratos. I liked it. The next one will 100% suck massive wiener and you will play as the red haired fat girl. It’s going to be Gears 2 bad.
I don't get why people are shitting on him. The Norse lore written with their runes always said Thor was a mean but lazy and gluttonous c**t.
It's not the left trying to sabotage Thor or something, the west turned him into a muscular frick in the first place in order to sell shit.
But no if it's something I don't like it's always "the leftist boogeymen"
>this god of thunder, the most important god in the pantheon, the idealistic warrior? yeah he's just a fat piece of shit we all hate lol
Who do you think you're kidding?
You're oddly unfamiliar with old-world pantheons and unflattering portrayals of the gods, or it being outright canon to the mythology that they're hideous, flawed, or otherwise negatively portrayed.
You fell for the most ancient of memes. Even Neoplatonists knew that the gods in the tales had nothing to do with the Gods as the intellectual principles of reality.
This is a fancy way of telling the thread your headcanon for the gods and the fables written in ancient times about them have no correlation and I should disregard anything you have to say.
if he's the equivalent of a future-archaeologist you're the future equivalent of a facebook wiccan
This is the sort of dumbass who reads a handful of Greek myths and starts spouting shit to his friends about how "dude Zeus was actually a huge piece of shit rapist he was a tyrant dude they were all fricking scumbags back then".
Modern Christianity is pretty big on the wrath of God and repentance and whatnot, why would the Greek pantheons be any different? Where the hell are you getting the Greek and Nordic apologism from, here? You're claiming some kind of insight into the original intent of dead religions that would probably get you put in a straitjacket if you went out into the street with it.
>why would the Greek pantheons be any different?
I didn't say they were different at all in that regard. And in fact you're taking their words about the merciless judgment of the storm god to be some kind of indictment against his character. >You're claiming some kind of insight into the original intent of dead religions that would probably get you put in a straitjacket if you went out into the street with it.
The fricking irony of this statement. Yeah buddy sure, they considered their most important god to be a fat lazy scumbag. What a piece of shit you are spouting your modernized youtube-tier analysis of ancient mythology.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>And in fact you're taking their words about the merciless judgment of the storm god to be some kind of indictment against his character.
It takes a weird kind of pseud to see a story of wrath and retribution as anything else. Go play in traffic, you're fuming at the thought of papa Thor not being shown positively.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It takes a weird kind of pseud to see a story of wrath and retribution as anything else.
Sorry your daddy was very strict and took away your gameboy, but a storm god passing down judgment as is his cosmic role is not meant to be seen as something negative.
Read Proclus. Even as far back as late antiquity there were Greeks that understood that the anthropomorphic representations of what are otherwise supposed to be the noetic principles underpinning reality were always meant for the rubes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you're siding with the late-antiquity fedora tippers who claimed to know the TRUE and HONEST Zeusachu's character.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Neoplatonists >fedora tippers
Try the Pre-Socratics and the disdain some held for the Hesiod. Try the mystery religions. Dionysus was also a bringer of civilization, a representation of primordial chaos, he wasn't some bro daddy god. Thales and co. wanted nothing to do with anthropomorphic principles. Even before Plato the exoteric/esoteric tension was very much present. Read a book you drooling Black person.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're not quite getting that I think they're fedora tippers in their deliberate attempts to divorce the fables from a "true intent" of the deity. Pointing me to the great thinkers that I think are fricking morons is pointless. Go defuse landmines.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I bet you think Thales thought actual water, H2O, was the first principle, too.
>no sources
lol
Nobody is saying they were exactly like how Ragnarok portrays them. Ragnarok's writing is shit. But they weren't perfect and there's plenty of writing in Norse myth of the gods doing dumb, petty and often evil shit, Thor included.
You fell for the exoteric myths because you're a pleb.
Yeah I'm so sick of these armchair Norse experts all of a sudden. Read Carlyle, for frick's sake. These were entities who had mastered themselves and the universe, not warmongering drunkards and sadists. Do these clowns really think the Nordic people went around dunking on the guardians of the cosmos like it was fricking proto-Twitter or something? I hate Whedon so much.
>These were entities who had mastered themselves and the universe,
Dude they literally rode on the backs of the giants to get where they are, build their godly city and forge their powerful weapons and artifacts, and then stabbed them after the ride was over.
You are the equivalent of a future archaeologist trying to reconstruct the Norse mythos from Marvel movies. Stop posting. Warrior cultures weren't ebic snarkers like you.
>Warrior cultures
Warrior cultures that considered themselves true Romans and wanted to RETVRN. Shut your yap you fricking pretentious neo-paganist.
1 year ago
Anonymous
555 come on now poster has a shit take, the sun rose this morning
This is a fancy way of telling the thread your headcanon for the gods and the fables written in ancient times about them have no correlation and I should disregard anything you have to say.
if he's the equivalent of a future-archaeologist you're the future equivalent of a facebook wiccan
You fell for the exoteric myths and tales precision engineered to appeal to the rubes (like you). I bet you believe the average life expectancy back then was 20, too.
1 year ago
Anonymous
where is your evidence to the contrary on any of these fables
your sore butthole and saying the norse gods were all good guys actually 🙁 is sketch at best
1 year ago
Anonymous
Source your supposed version of the mythology, then. Books, writings, old inscriptions. Go on, I'll wait.
>You fell for the exoteric myths
Then put up or shut the frick up, where's the lie here? What is your source on the actual intent of Nordic religions?
>this warrior culture obsessed with death and the brevity of life were a bunch of twitter snarksters dunking on the entities that governed their entire cultural cosmology for meme points
lol. It is amazing how out of touch human beings can be with the world they live in
1 year ago
Anonymous
>no sources
lol
Nobody is saying they were exactly like how Ragnarok portrays them. Ragnarok's writing is shit. But they weren't perfect and there's plenty of writing in Norse myth of the gods doing dumb, petty and often evil shit, Thor included.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Source your supposed version of the mythology, then. Books, writings, old inscriptions. Go on, I'll wait.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You fell for the exoteric myths
Then put up or shut the frick up, where's the lie here? What is your source on the actual intent of Nordic religions?
You have a completely cartoonish, pop culture saturated vision of reality, I'm not gonna go hunting in the Eddas for a refutation of something that should be self-evident to anyone who wasn't raised by Nintendo
>yeah actually the norse and greeks hated their gods, they thought they were just evil slobs just like our politicians >and angels? yeah they were actually all eldritch cthulhu horrors, hehe yeah i'm pretty smart i know... feeling your expectations subverted yet??
This, it's an embarrassing artifact of modern nerd culture.
>yeah actually the norse and greeks hated their gods, they thought they were just evil slobs just like our politicians >and angels? yeah they were actually all eldritch cthulhu horrors, hehe yeah i'm pretty smart i know... feeling your expectations subverted yet??
I bet you think Thales thought actual water, H2O, was the first principle, too.
[...]
You fell for the exoteric myths because you're a pleb.
Absolutely not squatting in the thread now that he's mad
How can of you be mad at Burch if you're operating within the same horizon he is? If your knowledge of this materials tops out at video essays and trickle-down memes? You all deserve each other.
I can't wait for the redditors to tell me Ra was akshually a drunkard and Osiris was akshually a warmongerer this whole time and that the Egyptians were as irony poisoned as the rest of us
God of War Ragnarok isn't a fricking religious text, who the frick cares if it doesn't accurately portray the platonic essence of every single God it depicts
I don't think it's actually much of a stretch to think that. Which Fertile Crescent civilization was it again? One of our biggest insights on it was a shopping ledger from somebody who kept meticulous track of everybody he'd swindled. I want to say Sumeria but don't recall.
Isn't it made by same people who did last part? 2018 game was kinda dissapointing compared to it's origins but this is on another level of bad, unbearable experience...
I only watched some clips but Odin just sucked. He's not portrayed as the All Father of Norse mythology but a suburban stepdad who drinks chai lattes and drives a minivan.
Nobody asked
Did marvel ruin blonde thor
we will never see overly muscled people again every strong man has to be fat these days
So... like real life? Every huge strongman irl looks like the OP.
true
people don't know real strength when they see it
Muscle with fat != fat with fat
brainlet
Human is not the Olympian ideal, god you're bland and terrestrial, boring
Olympus is Greek not Norse
Again, you are bland
A god is not a depiction of reality, they are a depiction of the sublime, the unattainable aspiration
Being fricking 7-8 feet tall and wide like a mountain is aspirational in its own way. For a character like Thor, this design seems reasonable enough
Kratos (being Greek) is closer to that ideal whereas Thor embodies the concept of strength for a northern people
Why are you projecting contemporary ideals on ancient mythology? Ancient Greeks idolized small dicks, up until the Late Middle Ages being fat was a symbol of status. A great warrior back then looked more like a truck driver than Chris Hemsworth. You're making the mistake of falling for blonde hair, blue eyed Jesus.
>You're making the mistake of falling for blonde hair, blue eyed Jesus.
lol you just couldn't help but pull out this israelite plebbitor seethe
no complaint that it's inaccurate, no complaint that it's not what's going on, just complaint that it was used at all
Damn. Shot the retvrngay with his own gun.
lol no he's just another ancient mythological figure that people projected their own image onto thousands of years later.
I'm don't care how it is in real life, I'm playing a GAME.
Then why isn't kratos fat like him?
>Then why isn't kratos fat like him?
This idea is for the next game
Thor has red hair more often than not in the myths. He was sometimes referred to as "red beard." Marvel's Thor has little to do with mythology: comic book artists don't (generally) read their sources, they just grab what looks cool.
You still got the broad locked inside McDonalds
Bad voice acting from him and odin
What happened?
Californians.
Something clearly went horribly wrong between GOW 2018 and Ragnarok. Ragnarok is such a horrible followup just to 2018 that it boggles the mind.
They hired Anthony Burch
I wish we got Corey's original vision for Ragnarok. It was clearly better than the mess Burch and his crew made of it.
Why did he give up control of his own game?
I half-expect to learn he was forced to by higher-ups.
>I wish we got Corey's original vision for Ragnarok.
qrd?
He got knocked off the perch of game director for Ragnarok, and they also hired Anthony Burch.
Cory/Corey Barlog was the director and one of the main writers for GOW 2018. GOW 2018's depictions of the gods and its vision for Ragnarok varies wildly from what the sequel ends up doing, which subverts or outright ignores much of the setup of the prior game. What makes this interesting is that Cory Barlog isn't credited as a writer for GOW: Ragnarok. But there's a lot of new writers there that weren't there for the prior game.
Idk where you revisionists are getting your info but Ragnarok doubles down on showing just how depraved Odin is. He wasn't just a prick who stole magic and betrayed people, he enslaved the dwarves, magic creatures, genocided entire nations. Odin was literally Hitler. And Thor isn't just a ravenous warrior, he's more like a psychotic serial killer who kills anything within reach and goes out of his way to murder indiscriminately.
The story does even feel like it's missing a beat. Are you even playing the game or just echoing what you hear in Ganker?
for one thing, thor was supposed to be a drunken, murdering absolute butthole, and odin wasn't even mentioned once
then thor does absolutely zero drunken murdering and odin is the villain
>and odin wasn't even mentioned once
Okay anon, that's not true at all.
>and odin wasn't even mentioned once
Odin was brought up a lot in 2018. Made him seem significantly more of a c**t than he actually ended up being in Ragnarok, although I despise how they made him into some american sitcom tier character.
Odin was mentioned alot
I just watched the scene where they drop in on Kratos' place immediately prior to the Thor fight and it's BAD.
>and odin
I keep seeing this what happened?
He sounds like a New York mobster
>mobster
He sounds like a Silicon Valley executive in charge of business development.
i enjoy that he outed a metric frickton of asmongold looking thor/odin worshipers who identify as nordic
>Yeah, Larry. I'll take another eight legs of mutton and two barrels of ale, also sorry about breaking your toilet...again."
He’s me fr
Completely chud energy
His death sequence sucked, but yeah I thought he was OK else wise. I don't get what they're were going for with it. A foil to kratos who was able to find another way to live outside being murderhobo, while thor could not and thus lost all fight and will to live/continue on? Otherwise I really just don't get it.
Holy shit is that real dialogue? The writers are complete meme clown morons, jesus.
A fat ugly racist KEKED WHITE butthole
This dialogue was most likely written before Will Smith slapped the frick out of that other dude.
It was seven months ago and the dialog isn't part of a cutscene, just fight banter, they could've easily thrown it in because "lol topical"
>J-Just a coincidence
Fricking really anon?
I tried watching a stream of this to see some random gameplay, and it was 15-20 minutes of cringe, soi dialogue. it was like a CW drama for women. seeing the follow up be exactly as gay and stupid as I expected has been very satisfying.
he says damn, not fricking. also its not that uncommon. fail
KEEP MY DAUGTER'S NAME OUT YOUR FRICKING MOUTH!
I like how they made him a fat racist butthole
fixed.
ewwwww gross. Hair is gross.
no.
Tyr's voice acting was the worst. Everyone else was okay or good.
>american character design
I thought that shit he pulled with him defibbing your ass was fricking choice.
Thor was fine, Odin is another story
Mythically accurate Thor is a good design.
>GoW
>accurate
pick one
So what we're getting at here is that the gameplay and story are fine, just the dialogue and Odin are garbage. That fair to say?
lol no
gameplay is unimproved from the previous game and the story is just as bad as the dialogue, a rather disappointing followup to the previous game too
Gameplays worse. Shit is more spongey
thor if he american
Obese morons on /v don't understand the difference between actual muscle and hypertrophy
>Why isn't he a muscly super hero!!!!
Because actual strongmen aren't body builders.
Shut the frick up amerimongoloid, being a fat piece of shit won't make you beat someone in a fight, muscles is what will let you actually beat someone.
No one said anything about fat being better than muscle in a fight moron, the point is strongmen have a healthy balance of both. Their size comes as a natural result of having fricking massive bulging muscles combined with eating healthy. If they're fat then so are you.
>healthy balance of both
You obviously don't know strongman. Every strongman is told by their doctors to quit because it isn't good for their health. Have you seen how fricking fat both people that dead lifted 500kg had to get to lift it? They both had to immediately lose weight after doing it.
>Muh strongmen
Are a bunch of fatasses who would get wrecked in the kind of ancient & medieval melee combat depicted in fantasy games. It's not a functional, go-to-war physique. Most of the great warriors probably looked like D1 college wrestlers, i.e. shredded.
No, they were thin because no food to overeat or gyms to cope with dysmorphia.
Their bone density alone mogs the most athletic zoomer lol
Don't even get me started on their T levels without microplastics in their blood
Cope
This thread is so full of mind boggling stupidity it physically hurts
>This thing ended up being a better boss with a hammer than fricking THOR
America unironically needs to stop trying since they obviously became pozzed, they should just starting funding japanese games just like that cyberpunk anime, basically give them the money and say what you want.
This boss was a joke and is a rehash of the Gehrman/Moon Presence fight from a story perspective
Ah, yes, Clint Eastwood: a classic example of an extremely strong man who had a rough life.
Problem is Thor looks less like strongmen such as the Mountain or Kyriakos Grizzly even and looks more like the nordic version of a Norf FC enthusiast
Honestly, I just played the first 2 hours and I gotta say, I can see this beating Elden wienerring for GoTY. It's really well done. Have a great story, fantastic visuals, and well some decent combat - not my favorite, but it passes.
Ok Corey
Who is Corey? I'm honestly enjoying it. Is it the *best* game I've ever played? No, but it is good and it's fun. It's your typical sony game, so it's not particularly hard, but I Norse mythology and the theme and the setting...
It's a good game, deal with it.
>Who is Corey?
Not him but are you stupid, underage, or legitimately this out of the loop? Cory Barlog is the fricking creator of God of War (Who I believe didn't direct this project which would explain the weird ass dialogue)
David Jaffe is the person that created GoW.
Kek if you actually liked Norse mythology, why the frick would you
>whole fight is just him doing a single grab
>mjolnir is used in a cutscene and loses to Cucktos' Wife's axe
The dialoge is legitimately bad at points
This is perhaps the biggest hangup with the game. Character voices don't sound right for this setting
Past game was fine at this, don't understand what went so wrong with this one
How did Baldur end up a more threatening and powerful antagonist than both Thor and Odin? It's astounding.
Fanfiction tier writing.
no one knew his weakness, he couldn't die.
Immortal and also just beat the shit out of you with his hands
He wasn't being jokey man, he was just tired as frick of being immune to pain/damage
Baldur's a pretty fun interpretation of his invincibility from the original myth
Immortal Aesir with one weakness that is not obvious.
It sounds like John Goodman
It looks like John Goodman
It is John Goodman
How does that make you feel?
Feels John Goodman
For me, it's his wife
>expert camera work
High test
Why does he prefer Hershlag in marvel?
He looks like a reddit mod
I hate how easily he was killed. Literally made 0 sense considering we've seen Zeus survive something similar.
Thor+Kratos teaming up in the next GoW would've been kino
I'm all in favor of this fanfiction Thor getting killed. Its a shit take on the character.
Compare all this:
to the Thor we got in Ragnarok.
Are you satisfied?
More evidence Thor was originally supposed to look more like Magni before they changed their minds and made him look more like Modi instead. Except somehow he looks even more pathetic than Modi.
It's amazing how much they hype up Thor as this indomitable force of nature rampaging his way across the realms, and in the end he not only ends up being less impressive than Baldur, he goes down like a chump. Oh, and there's multiple mentions of Asgardian palaces, too.
But clearly keeping continuity with prior writing was less important than subverting our expectations.
you'll get that when you pick anthony fricking burch for your writing staff
I was disspointed that Kratos gets "serious" against Thor for a brief moment, and Thor immediately went down.
Nah.
>Spends the entire game either moping or drunk or both
>Both the intro fight and the rematch are horribly unimaginative and gets mogged by the Baldur fight in the first game (the Thor fights don't feel like a fight between gods at all)
>Is either being a submissive son to Odin or being pussywhipped by Sif (she convinced him to attack Atreus after just a few moments ago they worked together)
>Gets killed immediately after the very first time he shows rebellion to Odin
>His corpse bizarrely disappears and doesn't stay unlike other killed Gods
Thor is one of the biggest disappointments of this game. And it has nothing to do with his visual design.
The frozen lightning bolt is kino as frick but otherwise you're right. Damn shame, I liked the idea of giving him an actual strongman bodyshape.
Pretty sure he’s going to come back or some other bullshit. It’s an alright game and it’s nice to look at. I also think it’s a decent conclusion to kratos. I liked it. The next one will 100% suck massive wiener and you will play as the red haired fat girl. It’s going to be Gears 2 bad.
Thor was such a loser in this game and he didn't even really lose until the rematch
MAKE WAY FOR THE TRUE THOR
(No offense to Hurst, but this role wasn't meant for him)
I don't get why people are shitting on him. The Norse lore written with their runes always said Thor was a mean but lazy and gluttonous c**t.
It's not the left trying to sabotage Thor or something, the west turned him into a muscular frick in the first place in order to sell shit.
But no if it's something I don't like it's always "the leftist boogeymen"
>this god of thunder, the most important god in the pantheon, the idealistic warrior? yeah he's just a fat piece of shit we all hate lol
Who do you think you're kidding?
You're oddly unfamiliar with old-world pantheons and unflattering portrayals of the gods, or it being outright canon to the mythology that they're hideous, flawed, or otherwise negatively portrayed.
You fell for the most ancient of memes. Even Neoplatonists knew that the gods in the tales had nothing to do with the Gods as the intellectual principles of reality.
This is a fancy way of telling the thread your headcanon for the gods and the fables written in ancient times about them have no correlation and I should disregard anything you have to say.
This is the sort of dumbass who reads a handful of Greek myths and starts spouting shit to his friends about how "dude Zeus was actually a huge piece of shit rapist he was a tyrant dude they were all fricking scumbags back then".
Modern Christianity is pretty big on the wrath of God and repentance and whatnot, why would the Greek pantheons be any different? Where the hell are you getting the Greek and Nordic apologism from, here? You're claiming some kind of insight into the original intent of dead religions that would probably get you put in a straitjacket if you went out into the street with it.
>why would the Greek pantheons be any different?
I didn't say they were different at all in that regard. And in fact you're taking their words about the merciless judgment of the storm god to be some kind of indictment against his character.
>You're claiming some kind of insight into the original intent of dead religions that would probably get you put in a straitjacket if you went out into the street with it.
The fricking irony of this statement. Yeah buddy sure, they considered their most important god to be a fat lazy scumbag. What a piece of shit you are spouting your modernized youtube-tier analysis of ancient mythology.
>And in fact you're taking their words about the merciless judgment of the storm god to be some kind of indictment against his character.
It takes a weird kind of pseud to see a story of wrath and retribution as anything else. Go play in traffic, you're fuming at the thought of papa Thor not being shown positively.
>It takes a weird kind of pseud to see a story of wrath and retribution as anything else.
Sorry your daddy was very strict and took away your gameboy, but a storm god passing down judgment as is his cosmic role is not meant to be seen as something negative.
Read Proclus. Even as far back as late antiquity there were Greeks that understood that the anthropomorphic representations of what are otherwise supposed to be the noetic principles underpinning reality were always meant for the rubes.
So you're siding with the late-antiquity fedora tippers who claimed to know the TRUE and HONEST Zeusachu's character.
>Neoplatonists
>fedora tippers
Try the Pre-Socratics and the disdain some held for the Hesiod. Try the mystery religions. Dionysus was also a bringer of civilization, a representation of primordial chaos, he wasn't some bro daddy god. Thales and co. wanted nothing to do with anthropomorphic principles. Even before Plato the exoteric/esoteric tension was very much present. Read a book you drooling Black person.
You're not quite getting that I think they're fedora tippers in their deliberate attempts to divorce the fables from a "true intent" of the deity. Pointing me to the great thinkers that I think are fricking morons is pointless. Go defuse landmines.
I bet you think Thales thought actual water, H2O, was the first principle, too.
You fell for the exoteric myths because you're a pleb.
Yeah I'm so sick of these armchair Norse experts all of a sudden. Read Carlyle, for frick's sake. These were entities who had mastered themselves and the universe, not warmongering drunkards and sadists. Do these clowns really think the Nordic people went around dunking on the guardians of the cosmos like it was fricking proto-Twitter or something? I hate Whedon so much.
>These were entities who had mastered themselves and the universe,
Dude they literally rode on the backs of the giants to get where they are, build their godly city and forge their powerful weapons and artifacts, and then stabbed them after the ride was over.
You are the equivalent of a future archaeologist trying to reconstruct the Norse mythos from Marvel movies. Stop posting. Warrior cultures weren't ebic snarkers like you.
>Warrior cultures
Warrior cultures that considered themselves true Romans and wanted to RETVRN. Shut your yap you fricking pretentious neo-paganist.
555 come on now poster has a shit take, the sun rose this morning
You fell for the exoteric myths and tales precision engineered to appeal to the rubes (like you). I bet you believe the average life expectancy back then was 20, too.
where is your evidence to the contrary on any of these fables
your sore butthole and saying the norse gods were all good guys actually 🙁 is sketch at best
>this warrior culture obsessed with death and the brevity of life were a bunch of twitter snarksters dunking on the entities that governed their entire cultural cosmology for meme points
lol. It is amazing how out of touch human beings can be with the world they live in
>no sources
lol
Nobody is saying they were exactly like how Ragnarok portrays them. Ragnarok's writing is shit. But they weren't perfect and there's plenty of writing in Norse myth of the gods doing dumb, petty and often evil shit, Thor included.
Source your supposed version of the mythology, then. Books, writings, old inscriptions. Go on, I'll wait.
>You fell for the exoteric myths
Then put up or shut the frick up, where's the lie here? What is your source on the actual intent of Nordic religions?
if he's the equivalent of a future-archaeologist you're the future equivalent of a facebook wiccan
>"post it then"
>several minutes pass
>"lol lmao out of touch xD twitter babbies"
fricking called it
You have a completely cartoonish, pop culture saturated vision of reality, I'm not gonna go hunting in the Eddas for a refutation of something that should be self-evident to anyone who wasn't raised by Nintendo
that is a completely hilarious interpretation of the post you're responding to
>I DON'T HAVE TO
Then frick off, if you won't prove yourself.
>yeah actually the norse and greeks hated their gods, they thought they were just evil slobs just like our politicians
>and angels? yeah they were actually all eldritch cthulhu horrors, hehe yeah i'm pretty smart i know... feeling your expectations subverted yet??
This, it's an embarrassing artifact of modern nerd culture.
Oh shit he's dumping wojaks now.
We just had someone say they think the Pre-Socratics and Neoplatonists were "fricking morons", this thread has been a laugh riot
Absolutely not squatting in the thread now that he's mad
How can of you be mad at Burch if you're operating within the same horizon he is? If your knowledge of this materials tops out at video essays and trickle-down memes? You all deserve each other.
Anthony Burch is the Nomura of the West
nojima writes all the games you're thinking of you stupid homosexual
We don't blame Nojima for the jank in FF
What does Anthony Burch actually do (outside of the cuck shit)
what are people even talking about here
a lot of contemporary greek philosophy was thrown out the window so somebody had a melty
We're all fricking insane, Touhou anon. I recommend running while you still can.
Way cooler than that b***h Chris Hemsworth.
If we ever get to that egypt game, will the gods start talking in basketball american slang?
I can't wait for the redditors to tell me Ra was akshually a drunkard and Osiris was akshually a warmongerer this whole time and that the Egyptians were as irony poisoned as the rest of us
No, they'll all be black but they'll actually hire theater actors to portray them as powerful, respectable deities
God of War Ragnarok isn't a fricking religious text, who the frick cares if it doesn't accurately portray the platonic essence of every single God it depicts
I care because its shit.
Because then morons start posting about how ancient cultures must have been as irony poisoned as contemporary American culture
And? What a bizarre stick to have up your ass when 99% of what anyone says on the internet in general is horseshit anyway.
I don't think it's actually much of a stretch to think that. Which Fertile Crescent civilization was it again? One of our biggest insights on it was a shopping ledger from somebody who kept meticulous track of everybody he'd swindled. I want to say Sumeria but don't recall.
>aaaaaa ancient cultures were as nihilistic and sordid as the rest of us
No.
I am morbidly curious at how hard your dad hit you growing up that you got that quote from my post.
>aaaaaa ancient cultures were perfect and flawless
No.
Isn't it made by same people who did last part? 2018 game was kinda dissapointing compared to it's origins but this is on another level of bad, unbearable experience...
No, there's new writers fo Ragnarok including world-renowned writer Anthony Burch and it fricking shows
I only watched some clips but Odin just sucked. He's not portrayed as the All Father of Norse mythology but a suburban stepdad who drinks chai lattes and drives a minivan.
Now that Kratos was the cause of death of Odin's children and Odin himself, will he frick the smelly hippie as the cherry on top?
That fricking gut and titty feel
>TAKE MUH WIFES NAME OUT CHO FRICKEN MOUTH!
Amazing. 10/10 - IGN.