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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It is time for us to proceed at a high velocity
    >I agree
    >For sure

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love Mass Effect. But ME2 was just a giant side quest. And kills my interest in replaying the trilogy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mass Effect was a 10/10 setting with 9/10 characters, 7/10 games and a 3/10 story.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't even disagree. Most of the appeal to ME for me was the setting, tone and interacting with the characters. But that's even more of why I didn't like ME2. Because it dumped 75% of the characters from the first game and tried to take on this Game of Thrones tone. While the first and third game were more like KOTOR.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But that's even more of why I didn't like ME2. Because it dumped 75% of the characters from the first game
          Good.
          They were boring. Remember how this was one of the biggest complaints that ME1 got? Everyone was boring. Only Garrus and Wrex were interesting, and they kept one of the two.
          The sad part is that they ditched Wrex, because he could die on Virmire, and something like 90% of players killed him off.
          The ME2 cast is a huge upgrade over the ME1 cast.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The sad part is that they ditched Wrex, because he could die on Virmire, and something like 90% of players killed him off.
            You have the opposite. Like 94% of people didn't kill Wrex. Someone will If so many people had, they wouldn't have had a whole side story for him when you visit his home planet. Everything else you said is also your opinion.

            I think most of the characters in ME2 are boring. The game had too many new characters and all of them just get their initial story mission and one optional side mission. The exception to this are the characters who came back from the first game and Kasumi who actually has stuff to say on the ship. Most of the rest of the cast doesn't want to talk to you outside of their story missions.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You have the opposite. Like 94% of people didn't kill Wrex
              >Posts LE stats
              Yeah ... you're ...
              Do you even know what the frick you're posting?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you have some super secret source from the original launch of the game? Go ahead and post it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you claiming that the stats from 2007 were identical to the LE stats, from 2021?
                You made the claim that it was. How about you come up with something that disproves it?
                Most gaming sites from back in the day don't even exist anymore, and most posts aren't even archived. As far as I am aware, Bioware never made an infomatic, but I do recall discussions, maybe it was on the BSN, which is now gone, how a staggering amount of the playerbase killed Wrex on Virmire, either by shooting him, or Ashley shooting him.
                But your claim is even more outrageous, since back then, people didn't have a guide for the game, internet wasn't as available, and few people knew about the personal quests, or didn't rush through the main story. And to claim otherwise is disingenuous, at best.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You made the claim that it was. How about you come up with something that disproves it?
                >The sad part is that they ditched Wrex, because he could die on Virmire, and something like 90% of players killed him off.
                Nice try. You made the claim first. Now you're trying to deflect and go "n-no, that's only the LE version!" And then have the gall to claim I need to disprove YOUR claim.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nice try. You made the claim first
                Then it still stands.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No he's actually right, if you weren't browsing video game forums and talking to people who were playing ME at the same time then you just wouldn't know because you weren't there. People didn't make infographics like that in the late 2000s or early 2010s, your infographic is from the 2020s where it's normal for people to look up how to do exactly what they want to do and don't do purely blind playthroughs anymore. When there was discussion about this game, wrex dying was a huge topic, because a lot of people fricking let him die on accident.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He made a claim that 90% of people let him die. With no way to prove it. Then started demanding other people prove his claim wrong, rather than proving his own claim right.

                You can claim lots of people on forums back then talked about Wrex dying. But there's no way to prove how many, which is what that guy was demanding. I can name lots of things people said on forums and Ganker back in the day. Like tons of people making the claim that Kojima preferred the English dub of MGS. And it was just a "known fact." And then 12 years later, Kojima proved it wrong...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >With no way to prove it.
                Well no shit anon the majority of the old internet has been deleted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >play ME1 during launch on xbox
                >save Wrex easily during the conversation
                >play ME1 again years later on PC
                >get to virmire
                >realize I can't pick the option to save him
                >look it up
                >find out it's because I didn't try to 100% my second playthrough and frick spending a ton of points on dialogue options
                >load up old save and do his side quest
                I can see how people would've locked themselves into killing him with how rare it seems to be to do side content on first playthroughs for some reason.
                Wrex was my favorite party member though, so I talked to him a lot and was pretty much guaranteed to find his sidequest.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >frick spending a ton of points on dialogue options
                why would you hurt your ability to do quests right in such a piss easy game?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are there any situations like that?
                As far as I know, the morality options don't lock anything out, just let you skip stuff.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there's plenty of points where people die if you don't charm/intimidate

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm none of these anons and just walked into this thread but there's pic related from the original release
                I don't really care for Wrex tbh. I think it's far worse that not a single ME2 squadmate returned, not even Miranda despite Cerberus being heavily involved
                It makes all those recruitment and loyalty missions feel like a waste of time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >single ME2 squadmate returned
                Well, I mean besides Garrus and Tali

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I think it's far worse that not a single ME2 squadmate returned
                actually insane this happened

                >single ME2 squadmate returned
                Well, I mean besides Garrus and Tali

                they're me1 squadmates thoughbeit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is also skewed, because of the comic book DLC that allowed you to shape your choices, prior to starting a game. Which means that pretty much everyone that imported a save, had killed Wrex.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Femshep gays BTFO

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's interesting to see how much things have changed since then
                You have more female Shepards and some decisions are more varied, but then you have pretty much everyone saving Wrex and making peace on Rannoch which smells very metagamey
                Even punching the reporter feels like a decision that people only make now because it became a meme
                The playerbase seem much more aware of what everyone else is picking and what the "right" decisions are

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >100% Galactic Readiness
                I liked the MP but tying getting high point values of the endings behind playing it was lame as frick.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Actually finishing it
                I couldn't make it past the Citadel coup.
                That shit was so moronic, it gave me a stroke.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                12 years ago I accepted it in the hope that maybe the story was going to get better. Cerberus Ninja Man was fricking moronic, but it had to get better later, right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tuchanka was as good as it would get. Rannoch was a huge step down, and everything beyond that fell off a cliff. Other than some individual character moments, tied to the ME2 cast that isn't even in the game as squadmates, everything else is shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hence why I said ME2 is mostly a big side quest. And the writers of ME3 not only forgot about it, but actively joke about it in various quests.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sauce?
                Go back, you fricking gay.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I think most of the characters in ME2 are boring
              Bro, this is patently false. Even the ME1 characters are remember for their ME2 portrayal better, than anything that ME1 did.
              Quit living in your fantasy world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only one people remember more in ME2 is Tali. And even that is debatable, since a lot of people like her in ME1 as well. The other characters all get more development in ME1.

                And if you are a Liara fanboy, ME2 was a real dick move. Since the game goes out of its way to make her not a part of your team. With the excuse that she's too busy working as an information broker. Then the minute you boot up ME3...she joins you and says she can just do her job using a link on the ship. This, plus a hundred other things basically retconned ME2. Even the games writers realized how dumb a lot of ME2 was.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The only one people remember more in ME2 is Tali.
                That's a big fat lie.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How the frick?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In the original ME2 infomatic, if I recall, he was the most likely to survive, with Miranda second and Garrus third. Unless you send him to the vents, he literally can't die.
                I mean, he can, but he is one of the last ones to die.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Off the top of my head:
                >can't die due to missing Normandy upgrades
                >will die if you send him in the vents, but Miranda immediately shoots the idea down so players aren't likely to choose him for that
                >successfully leads the second team if picked
                >isn't likely to be chosen for the biotic bubble because the other choices are obviously much stronger biotics
                >lives if you send him back with the survivors
                >has a high combat rating for the final defence because he's ex-special forces so he pretty much only dies if the entire squad gets wiped out

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                how is miranda only fourth?
                she literally had protection from most deaths until the very end

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With all the people talking about how X character can die, it go me thinking.
                Is there any decent document/video explaining how exactly everyone can die, what are the checks for success/frick up etc.?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There used to be guides for it on stuff like Game FAQs or Bioware Social Network

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Same reason Mordin is at the bottom.
                The requirements to keep him alive are incredibly easy to meet by accident, while there's pretty much only one way to get Mordin through to the credits other than the freebie of taking him with you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The ME2 cast is a huge upgrade over the ME1 cast.
            can't relate or sympathize with them, i have a good relationship with my parents

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ME1 cast
              Garrus
              >Daddy issues
              Tali
              >Daddy isses
              Wrex
              >Daddy issues
              Ashley
              >Daddy issues
              Liara
              >Mommy issues
              Kaidan
              >School issues

              Meanwhile, ME2
              Miranda
              >Sister issues
              Garrus
              >Revenge
              Jacob
              >Daddy issues
              Samara
              >Daughter issues
              Thane
              >Son issues
              Zaeed
              >Revenge
              Jack
              >Revenge
              Kasumi
              >Dead lover
              Grunt
              >Bloodlust
              Mordin
              >Guilt
              Legion
              >Heretics
              Tali
              >Daddy issues

              With the exception of Jacob and Tali, nobody else has daddy issues in ME2. Meanwhile, in ME1, everyone has daddy issues, but Tali has such a big daddy issue, that it is her entire arc, for 3 fricking games!
              And you have the gal to say the ME2 cast has daddy issues.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Miranda
                Sister issues
                >Garrus
                Revenge
                >Jacob
                Daddy issues
                >Samara
                Daughter issues
                >Thane
                Son issues
                >Zaeed
                Revenge
                >Jack
                Revenge
                >Kasumi
                Dead lover
                >Grunt
                Bloodlust
                >Mordin
                Guilt
                >Tali
                Daddy issues
                >Legion
                Programming issues

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Garrus
                >Daddy issues
                Right off the bat with the very first one, you're stretching hard to make your comparison work.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What are you talking about? He talks about his dad all the time. How tense their relationship is, how he was with the Spectre thing, or the C-Sec procedures etc. His personal quest may have been about this one guy that he mentions once getting away, but almost every time, it's about his dad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I only remember him talking about his dad like once or twice. Most of his story is about his old gang, working for C-Sec, the traitor who got away (also part of the gang), his time in Omega, obsessing over Shepard, etc.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You've mixed ME1 for half of ME2.
                The traitor is in ME2, and is all he talks about.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Miranda
                >Sister issues
                But due to her daddy, clearly.
                >Garrus
                >Revenge
                Clearly he was a father to his men, so it's a honorary daddy issue. And since he really isn't a very good Turian, with how maverick he is, it's a daddy issue by proxy.
                >Jacob
                >Daddy issues
                >Samara
                >Daughter issues
                But Asari are monogendered, and mom Samara counts as a dad stand-in, ostensibly.
                It's all very sophisticated.
                >Thane
                >Son issues
                But he is a dad himself, so it is a daddy issue!
                >Zaeed
                >Revenge
                Same, but the child is a mercenary corporation.
                >Jack
                >Revenge
                The nature and identity of exact dad is more illusive here, so you just set up a bomb.
                >Kasumi
                >Dead lover
                Women pick up men who resemble their father the most, some say.
                >Grunt
                >Bloodlust
                Okeer was a cunning krogan, so he died.
                You're the dad.
                >Mordin
                Parenting instincts.
                Also a joke about cloaca somewhere.
                Implications unpleasant.
                >Legion
                Arguably he sired a whole new bunch of the Geth by cumming into them, metaphorically speaking, so he's the dad. You're a priest.
                >Tali
                >Daddy issues

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Grunt
                >Bloodlust
                He's an Orphaned test tube baby and you get him adopted by a Krogan clan as his acting Guardian. How is that not parental issues?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because his bloodlust is independent of any parent. Kid needs to go out and kill big shit.
                You just need a big enough thing to kill, no parents required.
                We had the same argument the other day with some anon, that basically equated clan Urdnot, basically their own sovereignty, to a dad. Making the equivalent to ... the British Monarchy being you daddy. And no, not the royal family being your daddy, but the sovereign state of Britain. Or Communist Russia, I don't know. Whatever the shit is, it is not a good analogy for parentage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                His daddy is Okeer, and people who want to kill him in his loyalty mission are bothered by that relation.
                Grunt very much had a dad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK? How is that related to his Bloodlust? Krogans don't go into bloodlust when they don't have a father figure. They go into Bloodlust during puberty. It's like saying ... women get periods when they don't have a mom. It's a natural thing that develops during puberty. Like, I don't know how else to say this. It's purely organic, like growing taller. None of that is triggered, when a parent is absent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bloodlust is just an excuse to set up a relational conflict, obviously.
                Grunt himself is bothered little by Okeer artificial ancestry, but others are, so while he has no issues, he is in the mission solely because of his dad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Grunt and Shepard were already killing big shit. That's not the underlining issue that the companion quest addresses.

                >Making the equivalent to ... the British Monarchy being you daddy.
                I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Queen of England was around for so long that people did address her like a grandmother figure. That's a real thing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and Shepard were already killing big shit. That's not the underlining issue that the companion quest addresses.
                Wrex LITERALLY tells you he's just going through puberty and needs to do Krogan Bar Mitzvah. Like, I don't know what else to tell you, to counter your obscene headcanon.

                >>I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Queen of England was around for so long that people did address her like a grandmother figure. That's a real thing.
                A term of endearment is different to seeking a real mother figure. Unless you're trying to make a point that nobody in the UK had a real grandmother, and sought it in the Queen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wrex LITERALLY tells you he's just going through puberty and needs to do Krogan Bar Mitzvah. Like, I don't know what else to tell you, to counter your obscene headcanon.
                Are you not familiar with how some fathers used take their sons out to hunt when they got old enough? That tradition isn't simply to kill. It's to teach them about an important part of life and to show them what they are capable of and responsible for. The Krogan ritual does the same thing. It sets up a stage for said bloodlust, but then it focuses it through history lessons and propaganda to change it to a desire to become strong. That a Krogan fights and kills to become stronger, so that their clan can grow stronger, so that the race can grow stronger because they don't have the luxury of numbers so they are investing in quality over quantity. The whole affair isn't simply a party.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is a maturation ceremony that a Krogan undergoes because of bloodlust. Stop talking out of your ass. It is well established. I blame myself for indulging you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cannot believe you are typing this much shit just to be more wrong with each post

                You're pretending to be dense, so I'm going to go back to simplifying it for you the way the game does it. Shepard, the adoptive parent, seeks out Wrex for help on how to raise his son. You can plug your ears and pretend otherwise, but the game literally frames it this way including having Shepard mimicking Krogan behavior so that Grunt learns how to be one. Same shit you see in nature.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cannot believe you are typing this much shit just to be more wrong with each post

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but then it focuses it through history lessons and propaganda to change it to a desire to become strong.
                This is where you're fricking up. Krogan don't seek out violence as a result of history or propaganda. They do it because it's in their blood and an essential part of being Krogan.
                Grunt feels it especially strongly because he's a genetically "perfect" Krogan. His pubescent motivation to kill is unnaturally strong because that's what it means to be Krogan on a genetic level.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is where you're fricking up.
                No, you just can't read. The bloodlust exists. No one refutes that. What the rite does is try to channel it in a way that beneficial by instilling a certain mindset behind it. And before you begin your tangent, stop and think logically for a minute. If bloodlust exist in all Krogan at a genetic level, why would they need a ritual for it, filled with big speeches and ceremony, and aim it at and age demographic that's mentally malleable? Why is the whole thing based on so many coming of age rituals?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're again describing a Bar Mitzvah. With Bloodlust.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You keep repeating that like it detracts from anything. Bar Mitzvahs are to show a child is ready to become adult and its responsibilities in society with guidance from their parents and spiritual leaders.

                >Why is the whole thing based on so many coming of age rituals?
                Because hormones, you fricking moron.

                The ritual does affect hormones, it affects the mind. It affects how the Krogan sees the world and their role in it.

                If the maturation ceremony was about fricking instead, anon would say that Grunt needs to frick his dad.
                It is a moronic principle, on which he is basing his argument on.

                Swing and a miss there anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The rite of passage is an outlet for natural Krogan rage and bloodlust, not a redirection of it.
                It validates the fact that Krogan crave violence and enforces it. The end result is that they're placed in a clan with a battlemaster, which grants them purpose and belonging.
                It doesn't change their "hormones" or their biology. It's a reinforcement of what they are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why is the whole thing based on so many coming of age rituals?
                Because hormones, you fricking moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The bloodlust exists. No one refutes that
                >If bloodlust exist in all Krogan at a genetic level
                >If
                You've already contradicted yourself.
                Just accept the game as it is and stop trying to warp it to fit whatever your gay beliefs are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If the maturation ceremony was about fricking instead, anon would say that Grunt needs to frick his dad.
                It is a moronic principle, on which he is basing his argument on.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I love when game journalists come here and spout their opinions as fact. Even if you were on the dev team your still wrong homosexual.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I love when game journalists come here and spout their opinions as fact.
              You must not have been here for the discussions, back in 2007. Remember when we called Kaidan space Carth? Or how people called Ashley a bland b***h? And how the only semi-interesting characters were the aliens? No? Then you weren't here.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I came here during the 2016 election.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A strategy game set in the Mass Effect univerShe would be pretty cool. Could play during the Rachni Wars, or the Krogan Rebellions, hell even the a Skillian Blitz. There’s something there that never got made.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The improvement between Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 is astronomical in every respect except the writing. I can't even remember the story aside from the Human Reaper nonsense and "thermal clips".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mass effect 2 was so good I want to play it again

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd take 7/10 writing with 9/10 presentation over 8/10 writing and 2/10 presentation

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          how can you forget Shepard dying because they needed to separate him from his squad for awhile and couldn't think of anything else I guess

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how is mass effect setting 10/10? it's just generic scifi

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rather than setting, he should have said world building. But even if you just consider the setting, it's good because it's an homage to good SciFi. It's basically KOTOR with more scope beyond Star Wars. And that's what a lot of people wanted.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're thermal clips

      ME 2 is the best game in the series, wtf?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It can be the best game in the series and also a side quest to the overarching story

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ME2 was great because it mostly took a break from the reaper shit and focused on the world
      we need a mass effect that's just being in the world without some grand world ending shit to deal with which will never be good even if it happened now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would agree with you. Except most of the world building in ME2 is self contained to that game. And it relies on you liking the new characters or being interested in Cerberus. Both of which I didn't really care about.

        And they just as easily could have had most of the world building while you're preparing for the Reapers. The reapers didn't have to be a huge part of ME2. But preparing for them, collecting materials and new team members, should have. What we got is them coming up with a really contrived reason to stall this out by killing Shepard and destroying Normany. And then 30 minutes later...Shepard and a new Normandy are back. What was even the point besides a shock value opening cutscene?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27792
        This piece made me realise just how much ME2 destroyed any potential the series had

        What focus on the world? The game provides almost no additional world building beyond what the first game already set up and when it tries to do something new it does it clumsily without any focus on details or substance. Cerberus/Alliance/Council or any other organization turns into a dumb "reapers don't heckin exist!" child that Shephard has to wrangle. It's just like Shamus has said: the characters in ME2 are so good that fans will make up their own plot in order to avoid the whiplash.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So like Witcher 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s easily the hardest game of the 3. And not in a good way. In nightmare you have to sit there painstakingly while your cooldowns come up to plink at them with warp bullets
      I ended up just running warp squad incendiary bullets and impact shot because anything else takes years

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's because the game is barely a squad shooter in Nightmare.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I found when I played on the highest difficulty, the games were just stupid hard at the start. But the more points you put into weapons and skills, the easier it got. By the halfway point of each game, it was basically like playing on regular difficulty. Because your weapons had made up the handicap.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          On mass effect 1 there’s a snowball effect. But you can still die if you frick up. In mass effect 2 you never snowball. In mass effect 3 you also reach a peak power level where things become manageable. But you can still frick up and die. See what I’m saying? In mass effect 2 you can max out everything and nothing will change. Your companions don’t even do anything unless you give them the action move, you can watch Miranda’s bullets hit an enemy and do 0 damages Dragon age 2 is better than mass effect 2.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a thermal clip

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ME2 is far, far better than the other games. It's not even close.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"i'm putting together a team" the game
    >team doesn't matter in the sequel
    What the frick were they thinking

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What the frick were they thinking
      That they had 18 months to ship the biggest game they ever had.
      So cutting corners was #1 on the list.
      And boy, did they cut.
      We got something like 25% of the game we were supposed to get in the end.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was literally the perfect size. I rented it for a week off that crappy streaming PS service they had back on the PS4 and got the platinum for it. No dumb tacked on multiplayer, not overly long or drawn out, just a game that you can be a completionist in without trying too hard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's even more dumb is they had to cram all that into the first half of ME3. Because ME2 wasted all that time. ME2 should have basically been the first half of ME3, fleshed out longer and with better pacing. Instead, ME3 is like two games worth of content with bad pacing.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shoot gun
    >wait for it to cooldown before shooting again

    whats even the point tbh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the thermal clips make even more sense since you brought that up. They're literally heat sinks for the shooter to expend once they're sufficiently superheated, and upon their immediate ejection the shooter can resume fire.

      From an operational standpoint, it is much more effective than having to sit in cover and wait for your gun to cool down, because there may not always be cover to hide behind.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and upon their immediate ejection the shooter can resume fire
        But you can't, because now you have no heat dispersal at all.
        At best you might be able to force the gun to fire a couple more times anyway and likely damage the thing or yourself by forcing it to overheat the parts of the gun designed to be protected from that.
        If they could instantaneously load another clip in somehow, then it would make some sense.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It was long thought that personal weapons had plateaued in performance, but the geth proved all theories wrong. Mathematically reviewing their combat logs, the geth found that in an age of kinetic barriers, most firefights were won by the side who could put the most rounds down-range the fastest. But combatants were forced to deliberately shoot slower to manage waste heat, or pause as their weapons vented.

          >To eliminate this inefficiency, the geth adopted detachable heat sinks known as thermal clips. While organic arms manufacturers were initially doubtful this would produce a net gain, a well-trained soldier can eject and swap thermal clips in under a second. Faced with superior enemy firepower, organic armies soon followed the geth's lead, and today's battlefields are littered with these thermal clips.

          https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Codex/Weapons,_Armor_and_Equipment#Small_Arms_2

          I'm surprised that I pretty much cited the wiki (and by extension, codex) without even looking it up.

          As for actually loading the thermal clips, easiest explanation is that they're simply all loaded up and stored inside the weapon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Had they implemented fuller auto in the game, this would be ok, but what they did was complete ass. who wants to run out of bullets with an infinite bullets gun, on top of not actually being able to fire faster than you could in the first game?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              at they very least, they could've made it so the last clip was an overheating clip like ME1 so you always had ammo for a weapon, but now it's limited until you can get ammo

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They balanced encounters around limiting ammo however, which was just terrible. again, they could have had a flood of enemies pop out at certain points that you'd need fuller auto to deal with, and mostly achieved the same thing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But combatants were forced to deliberately shoot slower to manage waste heat, or pause as their weapons vented.
            >laughs in weapon mods
            Cerberus can resurrect Shep but can't outfit him with some good old toxic or high ex rounds.
            How amusing.
            Well, I guess they don't make them without a loicense lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >From an operational standpoint
        From an operational standpoint it makes sense to possess both, because your average mass effect gun is a fooking electronically controlled rail or coil gun with programmable characteristics, such as cranking rpm to a million per minute, maximizing bullet size, strapping a dozen blocks at once in a chain, and just going nuts as one alternates between suppressing, precision, and melt a hole through a starship fire.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm split on it. Until you've actually had to manage ammo you have no idea how much an infinite ammo gun would be great. Maybe an emergency battery sure but with how quick they cool down I'd rather just carry a sidearm instead, unlike in real life I'd rather just carry more mags instead of having two different guns with different ammo

        Seriously ammunition is such a massive logistical headache that removing that entirely would be a godsend amd practically an auto win button. The drvs put it in for game balance and to make it more like other third person shooters, no other reason.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, from an operational standpoint it would make sense to have an option to do both in the same gun. Letting it cool down means you can LITERALLY never run out of ammo. Ever. That is such a massive boon for logistics (especially for special forces) that it's outrageous. And, in the first place, usually letting your gun cool down was faster than reloading would have been, anyways (even for a trained soldier with an outrageously fast reload time, like in the games). The only way a thermal clip would be better is if it immediately had another heat sink already in the gun and you didn't have to reload it as if it were a magazine, because that would often end up slower than just letting it cool down and it meant that you COULD run out of ammo.

        There's really no reason why it would be a good idea with real world logistics unless cooling the gun down took several minutes or significantly longer than reloading. But that's beside the point, anyways, because the real issue is that reloading is SOULLESS and removes something unique about the game and the setting (heat management as the main weapon mechanic).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >reloading is
          It's not, but the issue is that weapons in this game don't even have any visible ports. One can assume clips mechanic was added late in development.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's really no reason why it would be a good idea with real world logistics unless cooling the gun down took several minutes or significantly longer than reloading
          The amusing thing is that machine gunners today already do this with barrels. After 400~ rounds you swap the barrell out to prevent it from overheating and warping, then swap it back after another 400

          With the time it takes to reload ME guns should honestly just have two batteries that switch out when one overheats. But it's no use thinking about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Expendable heatsinks are actually a great idea for guns that may be operated in a vacuum.
      Little or no atmosphere means no convection to reject heat, and radiation is very slow. Using conduction and then physical removal is by far the fastest method of cooling.
      Realistically you might use liquid to concentrate and dump the heat since it's simpler, but metal heatsinks with a bit of scifi tech are not implausible.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that somehow a problem? We reload laser printers

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bioware should have left the Reaper plot die at 1 and let Obsidian do Mass Effect 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And they should have given Obsidian a 10 month dev cycle

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then they should have cancelled ME3 then later come back with an announcement that they were turning it into an MMO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they should have just had the reapers win but you leave something behind for the next cycle. That's a bit too bold for fricking knuckle draggers who like ME2/3 though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think anyone would have even picked ME1 up, if that was the deal.
        Because ME1 was sold on the premise that "your choices matter". If that's all your choices amounted to, then you're doing an even worse job than ME3 did.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humans have made machine guns where you replace the barrel because it's too hot otherwise

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Th word you are looking for is "change batteries"

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >increase the time between your shots by a fraction of a second so your heat sink can let you fire forever
    >or just upgrade your heat sink to the point that you never have to stop firing at full speed
    >I'm supposed to believe this was somehow overshadowed across the universe by going back to spending 2-3 seconds replacing "thermal clips" in the middle of a gunfight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Combat is actually faster, though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What does that have to do with heat sinks allowing for indefinite full auto fire existing and somehow being upstaged by having to become a sitting duck for multiple seconds?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Skill issue
          Git Gud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shield tech advanced and ballistics kept up at the cost of efficient heat management.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they should've kept the hybrid system where heat clips were still unlimited shots but overheat. if you overheat you can either wait for it to cool down or just swap the sink out and let the sink cool down.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with that, and this is coming from the devs, after every fight, players would wait until their heatsinks regenerated the ammo back. Which made the gameplay incredibly slow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        who cares if it made it slow honestly, it would make more sense in-universe for them to function like that instead of making me believe that every single gun in the galaxy suddenly changed a major part of their function within 2 years. even guns that were supposedly stuck on a planet for 25 years, decades before the change was even made.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >who cares if it made it slow
          That depends.
          Which game do you consider had the best gameplay?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I see where you're going, objectively ME 2 and 3 have better "gameplay" but removes the RPG parts I actually liked in ME1. Making the combat slower might've helped with my complaint alongside other changes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Than you'd have to say that ME2 had the second best gameplay in the franchise. Which makes ME3 and Andromeda basically unplayable to you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Andromeda was unplayable because everything but the gameplay was awful. ME3 was probably the peak when taking everything into account, especially considering I spent a massive amount of time in the MP due to the combat being decent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What does MP have to do with the SP, though? Why are you shifting the goalposts?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the combat is the same thing in MP as SP you fricking autist, try to read before jumping to conclusions because you read one word out of many.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How are the dialogues in the MP? How are the character interactions in the MP? How is the story in the MP? How does the franchise progress in the MP? And if the MP is all that matters, what is your problem with the Andromeda MP?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nothing, where the frick are you getting all of that from? I simply stated the combat was the best in ME3 and my personal proof was the amount of time I spent in MP because of how good the combat was. I still prefer dialogue, world, design from ME1 over anything else in the franchise.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nothing
                Then what does that have to do with Mass Effect as a whole? Is ME a MP franchise? Is it Call of Duty? What does it offer to franchise, and what does it achieve, other than make lootbox money for EA?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >refused to read the rest of the post
                you're a moronic homosexual and I'm done communicating with you, you're just talking in circles to sustain a stupid argument for no reason

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >refused to read the rest of the post
                Concession accepted.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            3 had the best gunplay and interactions, just backport that to 2 and we're in business. Make all the guns work like the gun from the Citadel DLC that regenerated "shots" and I'd call it good.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >3 had the best gunplay and interactions
              Interactions how?
              Sitting back and eavesdropping?
              You will love Dragon Age: Inquisition, then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Power use, not dialogue. ME1's biotics consisted of flinging boxes into enemies for instakills or flinging the enemies into the stratosphere, which got boring fast. At least biotic and tech combos gave you incentive to use more than singularity, throw, stasis and overload.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Having started with origins that whole franchise makes me angry with how it turned out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if tomorrow I tell the devs that stamina regenerates, or the health is a shield that recharges, nobody panics, because it's all part of the plan
        >but when I say one little old magazine will cool down, well then everyone loses their minds

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, then perhaps you should talk to Bioware.

          >players would wait until their heatsinks regenerated the ammo back
          How long did they make that take?
          If you went all in worst case scenario and overheated your gun entirely killing the last guy in a fight in ME1, your gun was cooled off in a few seconds anyway.
          Even if you didn't have a room to loot, I don't think there were many, if any, places you could make it between fire fights before your weapons had cooled off naturally if you tried.

          >How long did they make that take?
          Depending, something like 8 to 12 minutes, IIRC.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >players would wait until their heatsinks regenerated the ammo back
        How long did they make that take?
        If you went all in worst case scenario and overheated your gun entirely killing the last guy in a fight in ME1, your gun was cooled off in a few seconds anyway.
        Even if you didn't have a room to loot, I don't think there were many, if any, places you could make it between fire fights before your weapons had cooled off naturally if you tried.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ME3
    >get the assault rifle with no reload in one of the dlcs
    >it's the best gun in the game
    >mfw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, best gun is the drumfed shotgun.
      You do play vanguard like a heterosexual male, don't you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Human Male
        >Default Sheploo
        >Soldier
        >Spacer
        >Sole Survivor
        >Romanced Jack
        Everything else is gay.

        I don't give a shit about Liara.
        You won't romance Liara again, because they will feel like it will be cheating on Shepard.
        Even then, you will never have that same relationship with her again. You can't make me jealous over a game I won't be buying.

        [...]

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Superheat gun
    >offload heat onto heatsink
    >swap out heatsink with new one
    Makes sense

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't have access to technology that cools the gun as fast or faster than it generates heat, sure.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ME2 should have started with Shepard being killed off for real tbh and being replaced with a Cerberus protagonist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As of the start of ME2, I would have no issue with it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Instead of carrying forward the relationships and motivations of 1, you should play as a blank slate with 0 connection to the previous game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone treats you like a terrorist anyway and only two squadmates come back. Might as well commit to it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's like 45 characters from the first game that are brought back in some capacity for the 2nd game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And only two of them are squadmates that return
            The rest are "you spared my life as a crime boss that murdered people and trafficked children, now I'm a social worker lol!" tier

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you only care about characters who help you directly in combat, play cod or halo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's effectively what happens in 90% of the time in ME2. Rather than having Shepard die, they should have just not made an entire game that was a glorified side quest.

        ME2 should have been the first half of ME3. You know...actually preparing for the Reapers. Even if none of the governments would support the mission, you can just go do it yourself with the Normandy. Hence why they killed Shepard and destroyed the Normandy. A cheap excuse for putting you back to square 1, rather than actually developing the story they set up in ME1.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That's effectively what happens in 90% of the time in ME2.
          You didn't even play the game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >give a long description of stuff that happened in a game, obviously showing he played it
            >y-you just never played it!
            Don't you have a FF7 thread to be in?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Cerberus
              >Genophage
              >Geth/Quarian conflict
              At least 50% of the main plot has to do with these things. Either by the plot itself, either by the characters that are entangled in the main plot, and are all tied into ME1.
              Unless your idea of connection to ME1 is Ashley and Kaidan, which are basically non-existent in ME2. Because everyone else, Liara, Wrex, Garrus, Tali play various important roles in ME2, some with greater, and others lesser importance.
              Even then, 90% of ME1 wasn't about Wrex, Liara, Ashley and Kaidan.
              So you're either lying, or didn't play ME2. Pick one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cerberus
                Much of the Cerberus plot is self contained within ME2. In ME1, they're just minor thugs you encounter on various side quests. In ME3, Cerberus returns to the role they were in ME1 for the most part. Except for one story mission to do with the council. And again, they are just hired assassins by the real focus of that mission. And totally not Ninja Gaiden guy if you even want to remember him.

                Basically, ME2 tried to make Cerberus the core of the story. But they're a joke in ME1 and 3.
                >Genophage
                I mean, yeah it's there? But it's not a huge part of ME2. It's part of one story mission just like ME1. It gets even more coverage (and its closure) in ME3.
                >Geth/Quarian conflict
                Same as above. It gets even more development and its closure in ME3. In ME2 its more of a plot device for Tali's story event.

                Most of ME2 is actually collecting your new teammates and solving their problems. Which would be fine. Except there's too many of them and most of their story events don't have anything to do with either Cerberus' goals or preparing for the Reapers. Illusive Man even admits this. But says you have to do it because you need a team. Then it turns out you've been gathering this whole team just so you have enough members to split into three teams for the final boss (a gameplay mechanic to justify spending so much time on them; not needed for the story). And 3/4 of them are forgotten in ME3.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >In ME1, they're just minor thugs you encounter on various side quests.
                >Had base on the moon working on AI
                >Killed several marines
                >Assassinated Kahoku
                >Ties to Terra Firma
                >Several other side missions that they are involved with
                >Their own weapon manufacturing brand
                >Minor thugs
                And just like that, all your credibility is out the window. Thank you, but no.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Had base on the moon working on AI
                That is actually smart, Alliance is being assimilated into Council and Reaper plans through too many ways, SA is practically tossing away any initiative that siding with them is suicidal in the long run for human potential, which isn't a perspective Shepard, being an N program indoctrinated spec op would consider lightly if at all, but one that is very much there.
                Redheads are close to extinction in Mass Effect, SA is one of the reasons at large.
                >Killed several marines
                SA intelligence likely killed innocents too. Sad, but comes with work.
                >Assassinated Kahoku
                Lamentable, but not necessarily depending on where Kahoku stood.
                >Ties to Terra Firma
                Without pro-human elements, humanity would be at a disadvantage, especially since other species very much have pro-species elements of their own.
                >Their own weapon manufacturing brand
                That's just respectable.
                >thugs
                Can't recall that one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they're mentioned a bunch off screen!
                Okay...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >off screen
                You fight Cerberus on several occasions.
                If you're not looking at the screen when that happens, first of all, impressive how you even got past that, second, LOOK AT THE FRICKING SCREEN, homie!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You fight Cerberus on several occasions.
                And in ME1, they're mostly just hired mercenaries sitting in a cargo hold. Which I already pointed out. Oh no, Cerberus has taken over an AI on the moon! How are we going to stop them! Oh right...we just charge in and shoot everyone. Then disable the AI. Oh no, Cerberus has taken the techno MacGuffin item we need! How are we going to get it back! Oh right, just run in and shoot them all and take the item back. And some of them even mention in their dialogue that they're just hired goons and don't know anything about Cerberus' internal operations.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And in ME1, they're mostly just hired mercenaries sitting in a cargo hold
                They're a clandestine black ops branch of the Alliance, with ties to Terra Firma.
                How can you see them do all this

                >In ME1, they're just minor thugs you encounter on various side quests.
                >Had base on the moon working on AI
                >Killed several marines
                >Assassinated Kahoku
                >Ties to Terra Firma
                >Several other side missions that they are involved with
                >Their own weapon manufacturing brand
                >Minor thugs
                And just like that, all your credibility is out the window. Thank you, but no.

                and be like
                >Cargo hold mercs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They're a clandestine black ops branch of the Alliance
                Which you don't see those people in ME1. You hear about some stuff they've done. But then when you go to a location, it's just the aftermath of whatever job they did. Or some hired goons.
                >How can you see them do all this

                >In ME1, they're just minor thugs you encounter on various side quests.


                >Had base on the moon working on AI
                >Killed several marines
                >Assassinated Kahoku
                >Ties to Terra Firma
                >Several other side missions that they are involved with
                >Their own weapon manufacturing brand
                >Minor thugs
                And just like that, all your credibility is out the window. Thank you, but no.
                You don't see them do those things in ME1. You just see what they left behind and clean it up. Because this is what most quests in ME1 were, due to the games low budget and reuse of areas.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't see them do those things in ME1.
                I don't know why you feel the need to lie, and tell me not to believe my own fricking eyes, but kudos for trying, I guess. It might work on some people.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Plenty of people consider character stories to be the most interesting element of an RPG. How often do you hear people talking about their favorite characters in Baldur's Gate vs the actual story of the game?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I fully understand that. And I fully admit a large part of the reason I don't like ME2 is because I didn't like the new characters. As well as much of the game being quests to deal with their emotional/past baggage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >In ME3, Cerberus returns to the role they were in ME1 for the most part. Except for one story mission to do with the council.
                They're heavily involved in the plot across the entire game, especially after Rannoch. They keep trying to steal plot devices from you multiple times and you go after them directly twice at both Sanctuary and their headquarters
                This is the first time I've ever seen anyone criticize Cerberus for not being prominent enough in ME3

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They keep trying to steal plot devices from you multiple times and you go after them directly twice at both Sanctuary and their headquarters
                So like I said. They're basically mercenaries like in ME1. They stop being this powerful organization that rivals the Alliance to basically showing up at certain events and just getting in the way. So you shoot them all and take whatever item you need...exactly the same as in ME1.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think the smaller scope of ME 2 is part of why it was so great. It's a lot more interesting going to Omega and looking for Archangel or Mordin than going from planet to planet doing a favor in exchange for an entire race owing you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People say the plot of ME2 was unmemorable, but I honestly found Feros and Noveria to be some of the most boring "main quest" content in an RPG ever
            I got so bored I started blatantly trolling everyone on Noveria and tried to get them to kill me or each other despite being paragon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But the reaper story sucked and side quests were the only good part of the series.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I will agree the side quests and world building were the better part of the series. But those things were also better in ME1 and 3. With the exception of like Tuchanka.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I love the soap opera stories in the ME2 squadmate missions. So much more enjoyable than the up its own ass Reaper plot in the other two games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They might aswell have killed him at the end of 1 then

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That would have been better than killing him and reviving him in the very next scene. It's one of the most "we need to do this to get a mechanic into the story" things I've ever seen. Right up with killing characters in Final Fantasy IV just to open up a new slot in the party.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even better, make a Shepard AI that is jammed into the head of the new protagonist and enjoy the schizophrenic experience of two people sharing a body and memories.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >money stolen.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >functions exactly like a magazine of bullets
      >deflects with the technicalities of it not actually being a set of individual casings
      >hides behind the non-argument of "everyone else is doing it so you're wrong"
      What's even worse is that the one argument of making the guns more powerful is kind of weak and could've been an actual game mechanic.
      As is, you don't feel that at all since guns just do the same amount of damage as always, so the argument feels like bullshit.
      Letting the player choose between sinks and clips would've been way fricking better.
      >sinks cool automatically allowing for indefinite firing with lower damage
      >clips hit harder but need to be replaced constantly regardless of quickly you use them
      Or just make the TTK way lower so that one argument feels justified at least.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Letting the player choose between sinks and clips would've been way fricking better.
        Actually it would be better if you could alter weapon electronics in game.
        It'd instantly make the game really tactical simply because enemies can do the same and kill you in a few seconds, so unless you kill them correctly you'd be pinned and shot, and so on.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it morally correct to continue the genophage and if it is should I just kill Wrex in ME1 to save the pain of having to kill him later

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have to agree with the Prothean on this one. Either kill them off permanently or maroon them on a world without FTL tech. But the Salarians are moronic and are trying the same idea again with the shadow broker's species in ME3, so no genophage would be superior.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No and No

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should continue the genophage

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got a boner during the cutscene where you first meet Samara and she kills all those people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I gotta say, I was in fricking AWE.
      Samara is regal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Morinth killing her mother was way too erotic, especially with the choking
      Cursed family

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do find it funny Wrex is more than eager to genocide the Rachni

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't Wrex fight in the Rachni wars?
      Even then, Krogans would hold a grudge against the Rachni.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would they? It was fun.
        It wasn't the Rachni that damaged Krogans later on. Even without Council assistance, it's not unthinkable that Salarians would do something later.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why would they? It was fun.
          I think your idea of fun, and several generations of an entire race brought up to fight one specific foe, are vastly different in my mind.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Krogans like battle so much they blew up their own planet, old krogans work as mercs, you don't seriously think some don't actually miss the old days?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Letting the Rachni go is tantamount to a slap in the face to him. His people were uplifted to fight them, they do their job, then the genophage gets used on them, then you spare the last of an enemy they had thought vanquished? He shows incredible self control on that whole thing.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ENEMIES EVERYWHERE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FLAMMABLE!
      OR INFLAMMABLE, FORGET WHICH. DOESN'T MATTER!

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get this Cerberus discussion at all
    They're in like three side quests in ME1, that's not at all comparable to their role in ME3

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, the only comparable thing between ME1 and ME3 Cerberus is that they're enemies you fight.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick it, this is now a thread to post my waifus. Because I feel like it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AI slop permitted.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least some that isn't melted

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Built for big krogan wiener

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Waifu discussion much more interesting than anything else.
      Especially bickering about which game was worse, or did more damage, after the ME3 endings killed the franchise, and Bioware retired the only characters people actually cared about.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The gameplay doesn't matter anymore, the story doesn't matter anymore, we can only get shit nobody likes, and in spite of Bioware being able to go back on anything, even yesterday, if they wanted, since they own the IP, and being fully aware of all the franchise's problems, they won't. It is a conscious decision, this is what they want.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can fix her

          I was surprised they didn't do anything for the ending in the LE, especially if they want to continue the series in the Milky Way

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody gives about your headcanon, nobody cares about your tier lists, and Bioware most of all doesn't care about anything, including this franchise.
          They care about money, and pushing their fricking agenda.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And if they can't make money while pushing their agenda, they will prefer nuking themselves, than stop.

            I can fix her

            I was surprised they didn't do anything for the ending in the LE, especially if they want to continue the series in the Milky Way

            They don't fricking care. ME3 ends the franchise, and without undoing everything it does, we are in diminishing returns territory, even with Shepard and co. returning.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So whip your dicks out, finds something to fap to, and shut up about the effects of the genophage, when you know the difference will be
              >Genophage cured: 7 Krogan in one room
              >Genophage not cured: 3 Krogan in one room

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it will be that insignificant, and when you call them out about it, they will call you dumb and entitled again, for not seeing the difference, the nuance, in how they handled the big issues of the trilogy.
                Now be thankful, bigot, and mind those Asari with male pronouns.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know why the frick you keep arguing about shit that won't change anything. Because even if someone from Bioware were to read your comments, they hate you enough to do the exact opposite, or find the worst possible alternative.

                They'll just genorape them again when the Krogans get out of control again
                Most pointless decision ever

                Yeah.
                >329 years after the Genophage was cured, the Salarians brought it back, because the Krogan were just bad again.
                They will make everything pointless, and treat the Reaper War like it was a thing that happened, but it was so minor, nobody gives a shit. Besides, it was 700 years ago.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This franchise is terminally fricked, it has no chance of recovery, unless either a huge shift wipes everyone at Bioware, or some actually competent studio, with zero ties to the established canon undoes all the frick ups of the franchise, and restarts the franchise at the end of ME2.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And I get that there will always be those that say how ME2 ruined the franchise, because they watched some dead guy's video about how the plot wasn't what he wanted, while Bioware made a GOAT contender instead, without ME2 you don't have a franchise.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Liara is returning in the next Mass Effect game while those two h*man prostitutes will be worm food lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't give a shit about Liara.
                You won't romance Liara again, because they will feel like it will be cheating on Shepard.
                Even then, you will never have that same relationship with her again. You can't make me jealous over a game I won't be buying.

                And while I understand and appreciate how ME1 set up the setting and the rules, ME2 made the franchise this huge phenomenon, and how ME3 sold 3 million copies on its opening month, when no other Bioware game since, or before, has managed to do that again.
                Even DA:I, Bioware's self proclaimed "best launch" "in terms of sales" has reportedly sold around 400k copies in its opening month in NA, when ME3 sold 1 million.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And while I understand and appreciate how ME1 set up the setting and the rules, ME2 made the franchise this huge phenomenon, and how ME3 sold 3 million copies on its opening month, when no other Bioware game since, or before, has managed to do that again.
                Even DA:I, Bioware's self proclaimed "best launch" "in terms of sales" has reportedly sold around 400k copies in its opening month in NA, when ME3 sold 1 million.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They can easily revive the series if they get the core team back or hire someone good to make it. What's killing all these series is they purposefully push out the veterans and hire woke new people. Then force the new people to work on [big name IP] they don't want to. So they do a shit job in protest.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They can easily revive the series if they get the core team back or hire someone good to make it
                You assume that after 20 years these people actually have a good game left in them to put out, if they did come back. Instead, you will get another attempt at Marvel tier quips, which will be all your dialogues. The person that saves this franchise, doesn't exist. All you'll get is a tripling down on the same failed direction.

                >Human Male
                >Default Sheploo
                >Soldier
                >Spacer
                >Sole Survivor
                >Romanced Jack
                Everything else is gay.

                [...]

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They'll just genorape them again when the Krogans get out of control again
                Most pointless decision ever

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >having a Black person as a squadmate
    what a shit game

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to see how homosexual the next game will be.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only people that like this game are waifuhomosexuals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not true, I like the game but deeply hate all the female characters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's nothing else about this franchise worth notice. Just fap to waifus and ignore what Bioware does.

      Not true, I like the game but deeply hate all the female characters

      Kazakhstan waking up, folks.

      >They can easily revive the series if they get the core team back or hire someone good to make it
      You assume that after 20 years these people actually have a good game left in them to put out, if they did come back. Instead, you will get another attempt at Marvel tier quips, which will be all your dialogues. The person that saves this franchise, doesn't exist. All you'll get is a tripling down on the same failed direction.

      [...]

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The worst thing is that the thread at

        [...]

        is full of Femshep and futa autists, at the point there's more wiener and balls visible in that thread, than the actual characters that you should be fapping to.

        Post your fav Andromeda waifus

        There are no Andromeda waifus. They're all

        [...]

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Femshep autists are people that will complain about Miranda's face, but will jerk it off to this.
          The fricking irony, man.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Femshep makes me retch.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Things I can post that won't get me banned are rapidly approaching 0.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >full of Femshep and futa autists
          >the EDI stuff has the other one as the futa, not her
          Lame

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post your fav Andromeda waifus

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >meanwhile in ME1
    >press and hold trigger for entire last mission

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long is 2?
    For reference 1 took me ~30 hours with me doing all assignments.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      About as long.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer Ashley. No awkward dating past or moral ambiguity

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll never forget the reactions of Miranda "fans" when Lair of the Shadow Broker came out and the Shadow Broker terminal revealed her trying to conceive with multiple black men
          They were already struggling to deal with her fling with Jacob, but that really sent them over

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think when I played LE 1 took me about 25 hours and 2 took me 35 but the latter has a fair amount of dlc.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    god i fricking love ME3 so much bros, it's insane. only wish it had the companions from 2, that's my only major gripe. but still, what a great fricking way to end the series (to me, i know most everyone hates it after what happened on launch)

    there is SO much squad dialogue and personality on the ship after every single mission, it really does add to the overall experience. i also cry like a b***h multiple times throughout the game, i felt like they wrapped up the storylines beginning in 1/2 as best as they could for even the smallest of sub-missions.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shepard I spent infinity credits on you.
    >Which is why I'm going to intentionally send you into a trap, that I know is a trap, without telling you its a trap, against an enemy that can blast you out of the sky instantly.
    >Its okay though, because the villains are literal power ranger tier morons, and will refuse to spring the trap until the moment you AI can stop it from working.
    >now go back to fighting the same mercenaries with the same color matching """combat""" for another 20 hours.
    Fricking trash game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget
      >"every squadmate get in the shuttle lol I haven't made up my mind yet on who to bring"
      >right after installing the device that allows the Collectors to track you
      >Collectors come out of hyperspace and kidnap your entire crew

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What did I say? Nobody cares about your dogshit opinions on 15 year old games. Nothing is going to change, your revisionist history is not going to work, any more than people trying to pass DA2 as a good game.
    Shut up, and buy your next Bioware goyslop this Q4, Dragon Age: Dead Name.
    Nobody gives a shit anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know what the worst part about all this revisionist history shit is? Assume that you get people to hate ME2, for whatever reason, and think that ME3 is the best game in the franchise.
      What changes? What is achieved?
      First of all, you've diluted the brand, you've deprecated the ME2 cast, their longevity and timelessness.
      Second, you still have no way out of ME3, no matter how highly you think of it.
      Third, you have no hooks for any future game, because even if the ME2 cast returns, you've already deprecated them, so you can't make use of them, you dealt with the genophage permanently. Even if it gets re-introduced 400 years later, are you going to re-undo it again, to have it happen again another 400 years later? Is that what we're gonna do? Skip 400 years into the future so we can do the last thing we did again?
      The Geth/Quarian conflict is done as well, unless you find similar ways to repeat it, and new morning wars every X centuries, which is just so anticlimactic. The Reapers are gone, unless you have even more Reapers be out there, which makes the entire sacrifice of Shepard/The Geth pointless.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >galaxy gets 400+ years of peace and not wiped out
        >this is "wasting a sacrifice" (even though Shep survives)
        lol
        lmao
        roflcopter, perchance.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >galaxy gets 400+ years of peace and not wiped out
          >this is "wasting a sacrifice" (even though Shep survives)
          Does he, though? And, again, if all you did was earn 400 years to find out there is an infinite amount of Reapers out there, policing the entire universe for Organics making Synthetics, and it is only a matter of time before more Reapers come pouring in, what then? You won't have time to remake the Crucible, the Relays and the Citadel for every new wave of Reapers that pour in. And in the case of one galaxy versus infinite Reapers, policing the entire universe, it is a war of attrition. You may be able to fire the Crucible once, and you'd buy yourself maybe a few months, before you need to do it all over again for the next wave.
          You didn't realize that, did you?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not only that, you went and retired all these characters out of a franchise, over a fight that isn't even over. Only to redo it, with worse characters, in a timeframe that we don't have any reason to give two shits about. So why is any of these needed? This isn't going to be Mass Effect's big return, nor Bioware's big redemption. If anything, you've only established that you're so creatively bankrupt, that you can't do anything other than regurgitate the same plot, without even trying to reskin it this time. Not that reskinning it would make it any less moronic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This shit's over.
              Honestly, the best I can hope for, is new models of the ME2 characters, and maybe a chance to see Jack's tattooed legs, so we can get some updated R34 of them.
              That is honestly the most optimistic outcome that can happen out of a new ME.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But what about the Jardaan, and the Scourge in Andromeda
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      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Third, besides Liara, you won't have anyone else come back, and without Shepard at the helm, she won't be romanceable, so you instantly have a downgraded version of her.
        Fourth, the new characters will be exactly the type of Marvel quipsters that you hate, and you know that because they got the writer from the Guardians of the Galaxy video game to do exactly that, so you know you're guaranteed to get shit personalities to go along with your DEI character designs.
        Fifth and final, anything new that will rise up as a threat or a mystery, will be a complete aspull, because where the frick was "new ancient evil" when the Reapers wiped the galaxy every 50k years?
        ME3 could be the best entry in the franchise, if you so want it to be, but even then, that doesn't change how the franchise is forever fricked because of it. If ME is ever to recover, ME3 needs to be UNDONE. There is no other way out for the franchise.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    friendly reminder Citadel DLC is the greatest thing in the entire trilogy

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >me1nigg*rs still seething
    ME2 is the goat me game
    >muh sidequest
    90% of ME1 is reconnected and the last 10% is forgotten
    Kys

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I need to reload my laser rifle
    makes sense really
    ultra heated light moving in a synchronized wave probably needs some sort of cooling mechanism to keep the electronics in the rifle from overheating.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the new Mass Effect even going to be about. Andromeda is a dead end and the relays were destroyed at the end of 3 so you can't go back to the Milky Way either

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Supposedly it's a few hundred years in the future. It'll probably just be a soft reboot. And probably something like the galaxy is just getting the mass effect drives back online, then some new evil shows up and threatens the universe. We find out the Reapers were constantly going out into void space to stop some outside force from invading the galaxy and now the various races need to stop it, yadda yadda Star Wars plot.

      What would be better is if they made a story about the various species having to adjust to a shift in power and it starting a galactic war. Then some rag tag group of mixed species band together to stop the wars. But that'll never happen. Modern Bioware would just turn that idea into an allegory of racism (aka humans bad and every other species are victims).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What would be better is if they made a story about the various species having to adjust to a shift in power and it starting a galactic war. Then some rag tag group of mixed species band together to stop the wars
        That would be a perfect excuse to go shortly after ME3, and have Shepard as the figurehead, hero of the Galaxy and representative of the Council trying to restore order. But that's not what we're going to get.

        Also, in one of the Bioware blog posts, they show the Citadel next to the Moon, right over Earth, so apparently, every galactic power was OK with just leaving the biggest social, economic and political hub at the hands of the humans, no questions asked. Like, this is so fricking dumb. The Citadel should be towed back to neutral ground territory, otherwise you're just handing humans the keys to frick all other races in the ass. It makes no fricking sense.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just want Andromeda erased
      I would have it take place a few years after ME3. Could be about
      >debate about restarting AI or bringing Geth back
      >searching for Shepard and maybe old characters drop in and out
      >rebuilding Mass Relays
      >lower scaled conflict like different underground gangs fighting for power or a new alien threat but not as shit as the Kett
      Really just about rebuilding or a kind of soft reboot to the universe after everything got fricked is what I would go for
      Given there is a Geth in the promo image I have a feeling they are gonna skip a lot of potential world building conflict

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biowares dead man, I can't fathom a single person being invested in their work from a fan and corporate standpoint.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ACKSHAULLY...
    According to the lore, none of the Council-race weapons are laser guns. They basically just fire metal shavings at relativistic speeds using "M A S S E F F E C T" fields and the resulting heat needs to be dissipated.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't justify not picking Sentinel

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Commanduh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I was this close to getting both of you flogged!
      >But I've decided that the situation requires a more personal touch...
      I like how fluffy Miranda is in that video, really nice hair.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a more personal touch
        I heard the entire dialogue in her voice, but this gave me goosebumps.
        Goddamn. AI voiced Miri can't come soon enough.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I really like how Femshep looked in that bodysuit.
          >AI voiced Miri

          At 3:50 or so.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then there was that silly

          >nearly a third of the crewmembers are pregnant
          Really comical.
          Though one of the funniest is that one with Liara body expansion.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hate that VA. She doesn't even try to make herself sound like Yvonne. It always takes me out how it's just some broad with an Aussie accent talking, all the time.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Eh, it happens.
              Not everyone can do a nice impression, Yvonne has a very memorable voice.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, she does, goddammit.
                The one that voiced Miranda in the Rikolo PoV video, she did a great job. Although she doesn't quite match the aussie accent. It comes off more posh British, which shouldn't be the goal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every playthrough....

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She is quite something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What was the rationale in the writers room when they went to introduce Miranda?
      "We need a hot b***h"?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What, you need more?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One of the designers probably just got done marathoning Mad Men or had an obsession with 1960s girls. And pitched a girl like that as "it'll be unique and different." I don't actually begrudge them if they did this. I like more variety in female designs. And I'd like to see more 1940s/1980s style girls in games. I just think Miranda's model doesn't work in game because it's completely different from everyone else. It's like if you had a 2D animated movie, and then suddenly one girl is 3D CGI.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's like if you had a 2D animated movie, and then suddenly one girl is 3D CGI.
          "Shepard, wake up."

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember when I first played ME2, I got the feeling that Miranda was supposed to be the femme fatale character who notoriously have ambiguous allegiances. So I always had the suspicion that she would turn on Shepard at some point or at least make Shepard question their loyalty but it never once came up in 2 or 3. So they may have wanted to go that direction but pussied out because a majority of their demographic (Ganker included) wouldn't be able to handle a romance option betraying them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >femme fatale and tomboy turn out to be extremely wholesome
          Sex!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unpopular opinion. Both Miranda and that b***h reporter from ME3 have ugly models that don't fit with the others.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ME2 cast is too bloated and barley interact with each other because it took them 3 games until actual on ship squad interactions
    also Citadel DLC has the only mission where Shepard uses his entire squad which would've been great if it was actually in the main game

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lazer
    Wrong.
    Most guns in the series fire actual projectiles.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ME 2 is the of the three and its not even close. 3 was just a fumble with the all out war but then you had to visit a butt of the universe planet to find a toy horse for a kid on the citadel. Took all the tension

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Immunity!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody says that. They just do that. Then they turn yellow as the hum of invincibility sets in, then as it wears off you realize that you are in your mid 30s, childless and alone.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I AM KROGAN

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one played ME for the combat. At least at the beginning.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to do a somewhat renegade playthrough. What are some choices I should make?
    >Morinth over Samara
    >Punch journalist
    >Kill Jacob during suicide mission, maybe others

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you didn't have a Krogan in your party you're a queer.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was unironically a different time. At least the atmosphere and characters were great

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was always wondering about this plot hole in ME2
    Good. You opened this message. This isn't actually asari military command. They're busy tending to what's left of their planet.

    So you survived our fight on Thessia. You're not as weak as I thought. But never forget that your best wasn't good enough to stop me. Now an entire planet is dying because you lacked the strength to win. The legend of Shepard needs to be re-written. I hope I'm there for the last chapter. It ends with your death.

    -KL

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