I remember when I saved this pic I barely understood what it was talking about, but now with proper college education I truly do.

I remember when I saved this pic I barely understood what it was talking about, but now with proper college education I truly do. Time really does fly.
It means fricking nothing.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw just gonna wait for AI to get good enough to be my code bawd and I can just have fun directing the game like Kojima

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit AI is the new NFT meme.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Always was.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Holy shit buzzword buzzword buzzword

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kinda interesting all the grifters on NFTs went to AI huh

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >N-no you can't just use AI to do my job, pay me instead!!
        I literally never get sick of the seethe AI causes, god fricking damn it's endless in the best kind of way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah use your large language model while thinking it's "AI" and thinking it can program your game while in truth it will just write what it found on the internet. moron.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't even used AI, I just enjoy how mad it makes you, it's like getting to live through the era when cars were invented and it made all the boomers shit their pants.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, I'm saying that this is like people invested all their engineering power into memes like 3D TVs in 2010, or VR, thinking, like you, that they were living "the next best thing", but no, there are few next best things left and we won't get to them because
              #1 obsessed with computing
              #2 diversity hires makes expertise plummet
              #3 garbage salaries makes people not even try and thus they put efforts to play video games instead
              #4 The global homosexual perverts reason itself, making people not value reasoning and rational thinking
              #5 We did plateau, there is no endless technology gain

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, maybe try /misc/ it might be more up your alley, the poor reading comprehension will help you fit right in

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Says the moron that immediately jumps to the conclusion that someone who disagree with his post is "mad" and then pretends to "enjoy" it. You have delusional thoughts. Just stick to reality.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >AIgay thinks that cars weren't invented until after WW2
              Same people calling you historically illiterate for not believing that the new thing is the great panacea for real this time btw.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moron took "boomer" as a literal thing and not just as a way to refer to old people
                lol

                Says the moron that immediately jumps to the conclusion that someone who disagree with his post is "mad" and then pretends to "enjoy" it. You have delusional thoughts. Just stick to reality.

                No one has disagreed with my post but going "(x) is the new (y) meme huh?" definitely indicates anger since it makes literally zero sense and is purely a poor attempt to insult

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is kind of a meme but what's it got to do with NFTs?
        One's a thing that can make a mediocre coomer picture and ones a pump and dump scheme

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mediocre
          You just wanted me to post bait didn't you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Already implemented in the military
        >Already implemented in the medical field
        >Already implemented in video games
        >Already implemented by movies
        >Already used by coomers (both for art and erotica)
        >Drastically improving every year
        Uh yeah it's totally just a meme like (insert other thing you don't like) though!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it is, because it's not AI
          >Already implemented in the military
          The military are homosexuals
          >Already implemented in the medical field
          They want you dead
          >Already implemented in video games
          To generate random maps or copy someone's voice
          >Already used by coomers (both for art and erotica)
          Same as video game, they copy, it's not AI, it's assigning a weight to what should follow by mimicking.
          >Drastically improving every year
          2 more weeks see ya in 2 years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stay
            mad

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're just embarrassing yourself with the autism, the schematics on whether it's AI or not is irrelevant, we all know what people are referring to when they use the term and none of that refutes the main point it's not just some trendy meme and it's here to stay

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            holy autism!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >referencing all those israelite owned organizations and industries

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, israelites won, you lost, time to move on chud

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >jews won

              If they won, they wouldn't pass so many laws and censor so many people to try to hide the scandals and corruption they do.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They own all that shit
                >You own nothing
                >t-they didn't win though
                uh huh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The reality is that they dont own any of it. They just continue to trick the common man into thinking that they cannot do anything. If everyone decided to march on the government one day, they wouldnt be able to do anything about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >referencing all those israelite owned organizations and industries

                >They own all that it doesn't count
                >Wellll they don't actually o-own it
                lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooo
                Sincerely made me smile, thanks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they don't actually o-own it
                I don't know where you got this strawman of saying they don't count. I said that all the industries you named happened to be israelite owned, and israelites are bad at innovation. Their only innovation is only around how to siphon labor and money from everyone else. So I wouldn't give AI the praise you want to.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moronic comparison.
        NFTs are literal jpegs that morons bought for thousands of dollars. Ai is now being picked up by companies like microsoft.
        saying AI is a meme in 2024 is the equivalent of those morons calling the internet a fad in the 90s.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Technically AI is a meme. It's innovation slog. That's what happens when only big companies and governments hoard all the money.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The tech behind NFTs could be used to create unique identifiers that can not be falsified, it might be used one day so we can tell who is a real person and who isn't when the internet is inevitably taken over by bad chatbots.
          But it might take a long time. That is LITERALLY the one use case I see for the technology, nothing else.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moronic comparison.
        NFTs are literal jpegs that morons bought for thousands of dollars. Ai is now being picked up by companies like microsoft.
        saying AI is a meme in 2024 is the equivalent of those morons calling the internet a fad in the 90s.

        The cryptocucks literally moved to grifting AI instead, anon is right.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People are definitely grifting with AI, but it does have uses. IMO, it's great for when the quality (as in accuracy or correctness) of your output is irrelevant or minimally important. Like I've seen people at my workplace suggest we use it to build things containing medical advice, and that was a big "hell no" because being held liable for bad medical advice is so serious. But if you needed NPCs in a game to just kinda babble back and forth to each other in the background, it's probably great. Or like if you AI-generated the images for billboards in a racing game. So few people will look at those images for more than a second, it doesn't matter if the hand holding a burger has six fingers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You b***h. You mother fricking scumbag b***h. You’ve got a lot of nerve saying shit like this. Start reading The King James Holy Bible NOW.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you get to program videogames?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did some early projects with pygame, Unity and Godot but not really anything too complicated or worth mentioning. At some point I did get into an game development group but it lasted 3 months because no one was really interested in programming the game.

      Why do comp sci if you want to make games?
      Do a game design course. I fricking hate morons like you who fricking sign up to a course with no fricking interest in it because they're too fricking stupid to look up options or do the tiniest modicum of research.
      Frick you all I love failing you and your kind.

      I program for a living, Black person. I'm talking about this image and that it's huge bait.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do comp sci if you want to make games?
    Do a game design course. I fricking hate morons like you who fricking sign up to a course with no fricking interest in it because they're too fricking stupid to look up options or do the tiniest modicum of research.
    Frick you all I love failing you and your kind.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a prof?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post doc.

        I did some early projects with pygame, Unity and Godot but not really anything too complicated or worth mentioning. At some point I did get into an game development group but it lasted 3 months because no one was really interested in programming the game.
        [...]
        I program for a living, Black person. I'm talking about this image and that it's huge bait.

        Don't care still hate you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't join for games either, Black person.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who gives a frick about their courses. You're there for the piece of paper that lets you get the money.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is why you'll never pass my classes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I have my degree and make my money and remember very little from my classes because what you learn on the job matters more.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you don't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm in my mid 30s. You were sperm in your dad's sack when I graduated.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well seeing as you never did, I doubt it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just cuz you can't teach for shit doesn't mean others can't. Failing your students reflects poorly on you btw.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not when they're failures like you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do a game design course.
      Don't do that, that's moronic. Grab the engine or framework of your choice and just start making a basic game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More difficult / perceived prestigious course = more interest from potential employers

      Hate the game not the player.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd even argue that with better and more solid foundations that comp sci offers, you'll be a better game programmer than the shitters that we see in the industry.
        The "design" part in "Game Design" courses is fricking grifting and pretty much psychology on "how do we keep attention and make the game as accessible as possible?"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah Game Design is a bit soft, but I had a pretty similar choice when my uni was offering both CS and Software Eng courses.
          SE is pretty solid technically and probably would have taught me more practical things to use in my day-to-day, but the CS course where I use almost nothing I learned after first year was better for getting my foot in the door for job applications, just because it reads as more prestigious on a CV.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I fricking hate morons like you who fricking sign up to a course with no fricking interest in it
      At the time I was first chosing uni/college I had zero idea what the frick I like or what I want to do with my life
      Wasted 2 years banging my head against the wall, then by chance my mom suggested me a course I ended up enjoying and now at 29 I'm just finishing batchelors in the field I'm actually interested in
      Modern education system is fricking moronic and archaic, its geared to produce fricking factory worker drones instead of trying to help young people find the fields they're best fitted for

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yep thats basically it. Advanced math is effectively just a moron filter and nothing else. You will never use that shit anyways unless you are deep in theoretical programming or something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think what the image is talking about is useless, but not useful in the way a lot teach it.

      The image is just talking about time complexity (ie how long something will take to run), which is incredibly relevant to know so you can stop, look at something, figure out how long it will take roughly and understand why as well as what the key bottle necks of that are, then compare it to something else or think about how to improve it.
      but when you learn about it its often just figuring it out, comparing to something else, and its incredibly dry while also being incredibly easy, so you just are fricking bored out of your skull and many people never apply it in real world scenarios.
      You can easily ballpark time complexity and be 99% close and its a very useful skill to have, but jfc you shouldn't be sitting there figuring it out.

      It isn't really saying anything though, thats true, its only mentioning it then stopping before saying anything and is just a lead up.
      luckily I am interested in both computer science and programming in general as well as making games so im glad I got a masters degree in it, work a comfy job, and make games in my spare time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Talking about calculating polynomial time and Turing machines is 100% not the way to teach people how to be efficient coders and techiniques to code optimally

        It's 100% useless unless you're going into computer theory and doing something insane like developing your own compiler and programming language

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I 100% learnt more on my own than in university, its just about getting credentials that might get you a job. Online resources are more than enough for someone who knows zero about coding to learn from

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Having a decent notion of Big O is essential, knowing the basics of turing machines (and low level instructions/memory) helps to also narrow down potential pittraps that some programming languages have and others don't.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair being an efficient coder like you say is getting increasingly more useless, not just because of AI but because of a billion pajeets learning how to make shitty code.
          >Oh you're a good programmer? Ranjeet is a decent one for 1/10th of the money!
          In the future I can see companies only having smaller teams of "elite" coders, that understand all that abstract stuff and such, while all of the grunt work of managing databases is outsourced.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >smaller teams of "elite" coders, that understand all that abstract stuff and such, while all of the grunt work of managing databases is outsourced.
            This is already a thing, except the outsourced database guys are usually also "elite". Most places I work that weren't old school boomers have a "DevOps" team that manages everything in AWS and whatnot, and they usually have really good understandings of how to set that stuff up efficiently because even a small change in how you scale pods or whatever can make a huge cost difference. The thing I usually see ESLs doing is QA or any manual database changes (which is awful, but happens a lot with older and larger codebases), and I could foresee that becoming a lot more automated except people love having a person to blame.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah 100% agree and thats what I was getting at.

          I 100% learnt more on my own than in university, its just about getting credentials that might get you a job. Online resources are more than enough for someone who knows zero about coding to learn from

          I learnt a lot of stuff at university and from my university, but not necessarily from the courses I was doing, my professors were happy to talk to me about related things I had questions about or wanted to dig deeper into and then I would learn stuff on my own as well.
          it inspired me to figure out the in between of a lot of things as well as made sure I covered stuff I was less interested in and made me a lot more well rounded as a developer.

          I think a lot of self taught people can be just as good, its harder, but they are generally a lot more specialized in very narrow areas and its incredibly hard for people to get that same knowledge without a shitload of time spent learning it, university is genuinely a really great way to be a good solid broadly applicable and well rounded developer.
          A lot of self taught people I have worked with might know more than me about certain aspects, but I often found they just hit a brick wall in certain areas and can't go forward while its never really been an issue for me as I always have had some related knowledge and they are usually surprised at me knowing these more random things and the details of a lot of shit which I observe more in those traditionally educated, I think a lot of people undervalue a traditional education but I guess it really depends on what you want.
          If you just want a job and want to learn what you need for it to do it and not really care beyond that then alternatives to university can be great, but if you actually are interested in the field and would be willing to do a lot of different work in it in different areas throughout your life as well as working on hobby projects a lot then I think university is pretty fricking great.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >O(p^2(n))
    How exactly does one take the square of the function itself?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's standard notation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        None that I have ever seen. A function is a mapping from some space A to some space B, and taking the square of such a mapping makes no sense. I can see the validity of O(p(n^2)), O(p(n)^2)), or more traditionally, since you mentioned standard notation, O(n^2). Where did you learn that this is standard notation?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Different programmer anon here. Could it be because it's a polynomial function? Or maybe it's supposed to be written something like

          O(p2(n))

          in the comic? I get OP's point though. It's math-babble but it's actually an intelligible sentence even if it's incorrect. As opposed to the stuff you usually see on TV that is complete nonsense if you know what the words mean.

          Also, I have never been paid to make video games... but I did make some video games while being paid.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah. That 2 is supposed to be a subscript. I couldn't remember if those rendered correctly or not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If the 2 is subscript it works but would also be redundant since there is no enumeration listed in the text. The comic is reasonable since most introductions to time complexity are unnecessarily long and complicated. I taught a class or three on the subject myself, and found it a lot easier to explain it in terms of nested looping or branching recursions.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          p(n)^2 is the same thing as p^2(n)
          It's just notation
          same deal as in trig where everyone writes "sin^2(x)" instead of "sin(x)^2"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am starting to doubt your credentials, anon. You don't sound like someone that has worked in a setting where notation matters.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              On a mongolian goat herding forum?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just keeps talking and starts talking about multitape midlecture while not describing wienerwienerwiener

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    99% of "computer science" degrees are software engineering at best

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >laughs in UE4 blueprints

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >going to college
    Lmao moron

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The words don't make sense when put together like this

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is that there is no 'programming degree' and no 'game development certificate'. Instead, everyone is funneled into a degree whose curriculum is probably 10% of what you're actually interested in and what you need to learn, and 10% random bullshit the college threw in so that the nerds in the math department don't feel completely useless.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I too fell for the "applied" programming bias and listened to geeks who told me I need to know how to *really* learn to code. When I should have been in the applied class.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You need to spend long years in college learning useless trash you will completely forget before we can hire you for our intern desk job because...
    >Because you just have to OKAY?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a test for: 'is this person not clinically moronic and capable of applying themselves for a few years'. That's most of the substance of a degree.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or could it be there is such a huge competition soon even taking the trash is going to require a fricking degree because employers only want the best interns they can exploit?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Having had several interns work under me at different jobs over the years, it depends on the person. Some of them were very motivated and responsible, and I knew they would be great once they learned more in school. Then I also had shitters that were lazy and never accepted responsibility for their frickups, and I wouldn't have wanted us to rehire them if they came back with a PhD. My dad always used to say that being
      1. Hardworking
      2. Friendly
      3. Smart/Competent
      were what made good employees, and anyone with two outta three is acceptable. But sometimes people only have one or none and they suck. Having a degree theoretically means you are more likely to at least be hardworking or smart, so if you hunt for friendly degree-holders, you might get a good employee every now and then.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So turing machines filtered me. Should I change majors?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Automata and turing machines aren't meant to be too complicated, it should start getting a lot harder in Compilers (which is usually the next step). If those got you in trouble, there's not really a problem.
      You can always go web-dev lmao.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        idk anon, i passed the class and everything but frick me if i can ever do pic related type problems again

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, no. You don't learn this shit in CS unless you're getting a PhD. In undergrad you get a basic overview of the most important programming concepts while learning a shitload of math and physics that will literally never apply to your career

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im a software engineer with several years of experience, never was taught shit about turing machines, that sounds more like computer science rather than computer engineering

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