I think this game actually looks good. Did it just filter people

I think this game actually looks good

Did it just filter people

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It looks good but plays like shit.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Looks good
    Ok, try playing it then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very nice visuals and it is single player game, therefore a must have.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Overstays it’s welcome a little

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean by filtered? Everyone loved it and it did incredibly well.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its a game.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FUKIN' BEANS!!

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's ok for the first third
    Then it falls apart and becomes tedious with sponge enemies and repetitive as fuck combat
    And in the last 6 hours it completely crumbles and shoves 5 hours of cutscenes in your face, with a half assed final dungeon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers are getting filtered by every new game recently. Case in point:

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP hasn't even played the game retard, he only thinks it looks good lmao, they only looked at the graphics and made this thread and everyone fell for the shitty bait

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He still stated a fact, zoomer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree that the final third is poorly paced, but I think people who make the sponge argument just didn’t fully understand the battle system. Especially if you’re playing Alphen you can deal massive damage to enemies.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but I think people who make the sponge argument just didn’t fully understand the battle system.
        There's nothing to understand.
        The battle system forces you to go for Break QTEs to instakill things since they have bloated HP values and you do no damage, and if you play as anybody other than Alphen you do even less damage, it's garbage, and this is merely the tip of the iceberg of shit that is Arise's gameplay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ah yes, I see you are someone who also didn't understand how the stat values worked and hot to make characters OP as fuck

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon nobody cares about minmaxing accessory passives in this garbage game that doesn't even allow you to combo, let alone actually fight things given how you're constantly getting interrupted by forced QTEs, stop simping for this dumpster fire, you don't even really understand how things actually work in this game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the reason the gameplay becomes worse over the game is because every boss fight was not designed like the field dragon.

        the field dragon makes use of all your abilites to counter his movements, he can be counterspelled, blocked, knocked out of the air, and combod.

        MEANWHILE

        rest of the big enemies and bosses are legit just sponges who cant be combod and have 0 abilities, so you just spam your build gainers to get an alphen knockdown.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >rest of the big enemies and bosses are legit just sponges who cant be combod and have 0 abilities, so you just spam your build gainers to get an alphen knockdown.

          A bit hyperbolic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's no hyperbole, that's just what they are.
            It's no mystery that Alphen is broken precisely because he can spam his universal burst arte knockdown and lockdown bosses whereas anyone else has to cope with spamming shit on enemies that don't react to anything other than scripted staggers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a half assed final dungeon
      so it's a tales game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Symphonia had a banging final dungeon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      By the endgame I don't think it's really spongey. The difficulty comes from the fact that your party pretty much die in seconds against bosses.
      It's not a skill issue because you can't do anything about it.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's mid and drags on for way too fucking long. Once you're 30 hours in and still fighting wild boars you'll understand

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it and the final fight with Vholran where you stomp a mudhole into him was great.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I think this game actually looks good
    >looks
    Play it and find out why you're a retard. Though anyone that unironically uses the term "filtered" to describe anyone not liking something they like is obviously not going to give any unbiased views.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play it, OP. All these people are clearly wrong.

    >Get to Lenegis
    >It's the size of a neighborhood and despite being technologically advanced, nobody has any clue about what is happening on Dahna
    >Which is why an ousted official is able to take over the entire planet in a day
    Like those rebels committed suicide or something.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Giving everyone super armor killed it for me.
    Most of the time it's a waiting game and if you would dare using anything other than a arte that doesn't combo, you are dead.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It does look good, and it runs great. On a technical level I found ToA to be great, but the actual game design and story is pretty lackluster.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine as a game imo. Some enemies are boring and I agree that some of the enemies in the latter half are sponges and the final dungeon is tedious. Still pretty fun though.
    Some people complain about the story but the question is, why would they even try to play a jrpg for its story anyways? That Rinwell moment made me laugh honestly. There's no such thing as a jrpg with a good plot. Falcomfags are just retarded.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why would anyone play a long ass jrpg for its story.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        KEK. A 2-digit IQ jrpgfag just showed up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why play a genre where most of the experience is spent dealing with cutscenes and obvious padding if you're only in it for combat better handled elsewhere?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            For the waifus what else? Some exceptions like Octopath where the selling point lies elsewhere but waifus are usually the only other thing worth getting into these games.
            Just shut up falcomfag. Next time, try to look at non-jrpgfans and see how they're disgusted to the trails games' plots. The only people who actually liked jrpgs' plots are jrpgfags themselves.
            Would've been a different case if you like comfy shits which I might agree on some cases but the plot is a completely different matter.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >For the waifus what else?
              Look up art instead and let the genre die.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Completely missing the point
                Just shut the fuck up if you can't argue retard

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's fine as a game imo.
      OK but what about as a watering can?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >final boss is metaphysics of the world in the form of a generic zeugle

    yawn, i liked the human conflict more

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >final boss gets shoved aside for the actual boss which is a really butthurt Sephiroth clone with a superiority complex

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was the best aspect of the finale
        He's really just so fucking broken by the system he wants to see Alphen dead no matter what happens to him because of his personal asshurt
        The way he descends on a burning ship is fucking hilarious

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I fucking love Vholran, he literally injects himself into the final scene on a spaceship powered by pure rage. Even as he gets bashed into a crater by Alphen spamming boost strikes he doesn't stop calling Alphen a fag and reeing at him.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He fucked shionne and alphen is a cuck

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It looks good but its a terrible experience

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, it got a game of the year award and people have to act contrarian because of how popular it was.
    Its like people claiming to hate persona 5

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got filtered by the cringy anime dialogue and visuals.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >iphone poster having a shit opinion
    keep playing garbage you zoomer

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminded me of the janitor guy in ys 9 being the bad guy

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The concept of the mindless planet that really wants to survive, so it creates intelligent life with a single-minded purpose of establishing its survival is actually pretty good. It's just a shame the game was forced to lore dump all of it instead of giving us a proper second act because it actually felt closer to Xenoblade territory for a few hours.
    Still, despite all the narrative problems of Arise it's way better than babashit and i'm glad we're out of those dark ages at the very least. The fact it also features an actual heterosexual romance that gets to its logical conclusion and with nearly zero fujofagottry is a huge bonus too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >an actual heterosexual romance
      3 of them, even.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't remember any significant implications of Rinwell and Law being a thing. Dohalim nearly proposes to Kisara through poetry in one of the skits though.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kisara also tell Dohalim that she'll be with him as more than just his knight and calls him Do. She craves the Dohalim pancake

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't remember any significant implications of Rinwell and Law being a thing
          They both clearly have crushes on each other but are retarded teenagers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but it never goes anywhere compared to other two pairings. Dohalim is literally stating that he doesn't want to live without Kisara by the end.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The fact it also features an actual heterosexual romance that gets to its logical conclusion
      not even the first or second tales game to do this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Never said so. I said we're out of the dark ages of fujogayry and babagayry. The series fell so low at one point it actually featured yurishit in Zestiria's anime.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          zestiria was one game in a series with almost 20
          it's time to stop using it as a scapegoat and just accept that current tales team is utterly lazy and without passion

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hideo Baba never had any passion to begin with. His entire era is what degraded the series to the cookie cutter collection of safe, marketable tropes designed to attract as many shit eaters from different groups as possible. There's a reason Zestiria in particular seems to have a fanbase on Ganker spamming that shitty e-boi to no end.
            Is Arise as good as the top tier Tales? No. Is it better than most shit that was churned out in the last decade? Absolutely. It's a great model for future games in the series if they evolve the combat system.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Hideo Baba never had any passion to begin with
              he directed destiny ps2

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a remake, not a standalone project.
                We've seen what he shits out when is actually given creative control.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you've never actually played destiny ps2 have you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                DC absolutely shits on the original game. What a retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And yet it wouldn't exist without the original game. Using it to defend Baba is peak delusion.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                destiny DC is a completely different game from the original dumb gay, the only thing similar is the main story which who gives a fuck
                literally no one praises destiny for the main story
                why don't you go play a tales game instead of shitposting here retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the only thing similar is the main story
                The only thing similar is the main thing Baba inadvertently always fucks up?
                You don't say
                And many people DO give a shit about the story in jrpgs because it's a very story oriented genre. Destiny is a comfy 90s shounen anime. Something Baba himself can't for the life of him create.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No need to samefag, lower case-kun. Everyone is happy Baba fucked off from the series.

                mental illness
                go play videogames because this website is making you insane

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your autistic screeching is illegible at this point. The series will move forward and will be far better without this embarrassing producer.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                their main headliner for this year and next is a game they have already ported 3 times with a sharpening+ai upscaler and cutscene skip
                that's the future of tales you want, i take it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i genuinely don't know what point you're trying to make with this post
                baba is shit at story so of course he remade a game with a story that's already just okay and doesn't have to change it meaningfully and that's a bad thing somehow?

                No need to samefag, lower case-kun. Everyone is happy Baba fucked off from the series.

                i would be happy for him to leave the series if they replaced him with someone better but they DIDN'T, THAT'S the fucking problem

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >and that's a bad thing somehow?
                ?
                I said it was impossible for Baba to fuck up this aspect with Destiny and that's why it ended up being a good entry, unlike the embarrassing shit like Xillia

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                so you're admitting he got everything else about the game right

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A man running Sakura Revolution into the ground, a man whose studio was closed before it released a single project physically can't do "something right about the games" on his own. Destiny DC being a good entry has nothing to do with it since in the end it's still a remake that forced a myriad of limitations on his ""creative freedom""

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Destiny DC being a good entry has nothing to do with it since in the end it's still a remake that forced a myriad of limitations on his ""creative freedom""
                and what limitations are those, besides the outline of the story and the characters?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >besides the main aspects he always fucks up
                ?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                so he always fucks up except when he doesn't? why did he not fuck up the gameplay of destiny dc but did with zestiria?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're running in circles harder than Baba inside his now defunct Square studio
                Again: using a remake as any indication of Baba's own skills at directing and especially being a producer is beyond delusional.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i'm not using "a" remake as an indication, i'm using destiny's remake specifically
                that's a rather important distinction

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you would embarrass yourself so much less if you just admitted you never played it or stopped posting instead of trying to find an angle to discount a game you've transparently never played

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No need to samefag, lower case-kun. Everyone is happy Baba fucked off from the series.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Baba was there since tales of destiny DC. I have no idea what era you're talking about because he's been around for more than half of tales and plenty of what talesfag consider as great games. This forced hatred of baba from people who have never played zestiria and brainwashed by waifufags is cringe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t actually felt closer to Xenoblade territory for a few hours.
      That's the thing, it tried very hard to be like xenoblade but fails insanely hard I almost regret putting that many hours into it. It should've stuck to a classic fantasy story period

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not the "attempt" that managed the story to fizzle out, it's the fact they were forced to rush the second half insanely hard. The story concepts themselves are pretty solid by the standards of the series and Dohalim's arc in particular feels very Xeno-esque, you just read a fuck ton of them through a literal infodump.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna have to echo the sentiment of the thread. It's okay, but ultimately a disapointment.
    The visuals are great, if unadventurous. The gameplay is fine, but it wears thin when every single enemy is a damage sponge. Everyone agrees the story's strong beginning is let down- it's just that nobody seems to be able to agree when.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    vholran definitely has better taste in clothing, shionne in her black dress looks like a top tier whore

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Did it just filter people
    Most people who cry about ToA are Nintendo fanboys, because it's not on the Switch, and the usual crowd who always keep seething about new games, because they're "pozzed" etc., even if obviously they had no intention to play them to begin with.
    If you want to know if it's good, read reviews by people who actually played the game, like on Steam.
    Not in my top 3 Tales, personally, but still very good.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The game is good, but it doesn't quite live up to its potential in what feel like silly ways.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    not on BING BING WAHOOO means systematic shitposting on Ganker

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    story is mega bad, gameplay is just triggering the same quicktime events over and over

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The second half of the game was fucking terrible.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the game is an absolute slog until you unlock the additional set of skill slots but the novelty wears off quick

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rubbing Rinwell's fat eyebrows.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's my favorite game, most enjoyable game in recent years, even though I had lukewarm first impressions, and some flaws really bothered me.

    Much of the criticism it gets here is mostly some low IQ, "baby's first critique" shit. Not worth taking into account.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still can't decide which one had the worst story between this and Xenoblade 3.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Adding that Hearts DS was the first original game produced by Baba and featured a better romance than Arise.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >filter
    The only thing that filters in that shitty game is the final dungeon and nothing but minibosses in the latter half.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's one of the worst written games I've ever played
    The only way to get any enjoyment out of it is to ignore all writing and only focus on the pretty anime characters and the very average gameplay

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's universally beloved. Best RPG of 2021.
    It's just tendies malding because it can't run on Shitch

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Really good fucking gameplay, zero room to explore it in. You get a few middling sidequests when you finally get the party together, a couple more before you're railroaded on the endgame.
    The best part about the franchise is that about a third of the way in you get the whole party, spend the second third learning their combos and the final third doing crazy endgame shit.
    Lack of a world map kills that sense of exploration, you're not treking back to an earlier or hidden dungeon to unlock a secret ritual to fight a superboss, you're going back to the corridor at the start of the game to kill a bug that's literally just walking around in a circle.

    In terms of a tales story, its individual moments have the best heights of the series, but the weakest ongoing narrative. Every villain is monster of the week, the rival to the antagonist doesn't get introduced until near the end of the game and basically has all the relevance of that one retarded assassin that tries to fuck with Yuri in Vesperia. In Symphonia and Vesperia, the villains were a dynamic part of the world, they could have several schemes unfold before ultimately meeting their demise and could be involved with other villains. Arise is very compact and nothing anybody does affects the other, even though they're practically neighbors (world map needs to come back, seriously).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Villains of the week
      I don't see this as a bad thing. The focus is more on the areas they hold (types of oppression and struggles against it) and the main cast. I would not like to have anime villains fucking around on top of that. Not really interesting in Symphonia, and at times, silly. Also, the rival does get introduced earlier.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Massively disagree. Even though the atmosphere of those areas is the best the franchise has done, the disappointment of how short lived they are means that they don't have as much lasting power and it diminishes the scope of the world into a peanut gallery for template dystopias.

        Tales of Symphonia fulfilled on its premise of oppression a lot more than Arise because the characters get lulled into the sense of stability sugarcoating the oppression and then have the rug swept from under them and show how brutal the actual situation really is. Also they don't just nearly wrap up and resolve the area and move on like Arise, most of the time they can't immediately fix everyone's problems and they have to come back later on, you get to see how events in the game, including your own inexperienced party's interference, has affected the people. Arise has a conceptual showcase, Symphonia has towns

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          In Arise it's made clear that disposing of the tyrant never solves all the problems, and that the responsibility of solving them and rebuilding falls on the people, while the heroes continue on. Example, when returning to Cyslodia, they send help and someone to organize Ganath Haros.

          I don't remember much of what you say happens in Symphonia. I tried replaying but couldn't get into it. But I think rebuilding Luin is a really neat.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Luin was great, I enjoyed the small addition of being able to either walk halfway across the world and do the story in reverse order and see some extra stuff alongside the expected route. It's hard to imagine that shit in a 3D JRPG nowadays.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I did that unintended route on my first playthrough back around when the game came out. I did all I could, but at some point I couldn't figure out how to progress. Years later I learned that it is actually possible to go that route. Really cool

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          And that reminded me how npcs react to later events. I think I actually missed at least some of them on my first playthrough, because I was busy saving the world. I was a bit suprised because the late game seems rushed. But yeah, there are issues the main cast talks about in lenght.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kind of a show don't tell thing though, they just talk about it rather than experiencing it proper. After eliminating the villains though it wouldn't be very interesting to show, hence my issue with monster of the week setup, leaves nothing leftover to demonstrate consequences in a way that works for a video game.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I get what you're saying, and that consequences are important. I confess, I wasn't interested in exploring the fate of the cities further, when I was invested in all the other stuff that was going on. (The cast and how the story affects them) What the game deals with was enough for me, I just wish the later game was more polished.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                We can always hope Star Ocean 6 will be good

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Past the PS1 every star ocean has been cringe inducing shit though especially ps3-ps4 why would this one be different

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No literal catgirls or e-bois.
                The character models absolutely raped the artstyle of the concept art though, what the fuck is going on with the main character's face

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was thinking on tackling FF7 Remake next, but maybe I'll keep an eye on this as well. I haven't played the series yet.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did you try Scarlet Nexus? That was supposed to be a pretty good JRPG that flew under the radar. Star Ocean is only good if you really love tales-style combat, I can't in good-conscience actually recommend it to anyone otherwise.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >148cm
                Why Tales is so afraid to make hebe e-boi.
                The last playable e-boi on mainline Tales games is Edna

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Magilou is flat and bratty enough to count too, even though the Berseria director obviously had a thinly veiled Oneeshota fetish.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Magilou has normal Japanese woman height (160 cm)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh well, she gave me an armpit fetish. Need to go back and finish the game, felt like the combo system was one of the best in the series, if a little bit OP

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think Arise is the first jrpg I've played since Symphonia. (Not counting Dark Souls)
                Arise gameplay was good, but it was the sum of the parts that kept me playing. Dragon Quest interests me too, because I've heard it has pleasant downtime.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >liked Arise
                >hadn't played a JRPG since Symphonia
                This is who Arise is for lmao. Never forget that. These are the drones lauding this dogshit game as something special, or enjoyable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He hasn't played a JRPG since one of the best Tales entries and that's uhhh makes him bad?
                Any person who burned through babashit either got completely sanitized towards the series or was completely mindbroken by this torrent of garbage.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Symphonia
                >Best anything
                Despite his massive fuckup with Zesty Baba has a good record under his belt, far better than what Tomizawa pushed out.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Baba's complete project list reads like a fucking list of war crimes, and the garbage he was involved into after being booted out doesn't help.
                The only people defending him are... combofags maybe? I seriously don't know who else will defend someone whose input degraded level designs, storytelling and characters as much as he did.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Destiny DC
                >Hearts
                >Graces
                >Vesperia
                >The only good RM game
                >Xillia/Xilla 2
                Why are you even playing this series if not for the combat?
                >level designs, storytelling and characters
                Have always been the same shit, actually got worse after Baba left.
                Seriously, level design in fucking Tales of?
                Get a load of this guy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why are you even playing this series if not for the combat?
                Who the FUCK plays this series for pure combat? It's dogshit, and it's always been dogshit. It's slow, unresponsive, with what feels like a second of input delay, it takes 40-60 hours to even get all the gimmicks that actually allow you to combo more or less seamlessly, the combat movement is a travesty both in 2d and 3d entries and feels like moving someone underground. Seriously, why even fucking bother when there's actual action games around?
                Now you will undoubtedly link me some epik combo mad montage from an ng+ against a damage sponge. Guess what, it's not a representative of real combat gameplay you get for like 80% of the game, and only if you're willing to tolerate atrocious controls and input delay.
                >Xillia/Xilla 2
                >good
                >Graces aka the second or third worst tales and the one introducing everything wrong with modern tales
                >good
                jesus fucking christ now i've seen everything

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I fucking hate the series
                Cool, opinion completely discarded, stop wasting everyone's time and go back to FF15 or some shit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, i actually really like the series as a sum of its parts. Mostly PS1 and PS2 entries because back then they actually knew how to make good world and dungeon designs and even write good characters and stories.
                The combo tree garbage paired with dogshit characters this series has devolved to with Graces? Fuck outta there. In the last decade the series is hitting Compile Heart levels of quality. A complete disgrace. Arise was a huge step in the right direction, but nowhere near enough to unfuck it yet.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >abyss schizo hates any Tales game after it
                somehow not even surprised. opionion still discarded.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they actually knew how to make good world and dungeon designs and even write good characters and stories.
                Peach pies curing people's racism and shitty sokoban tier puzzles isn't what I'd call good dungeon design or narrative.
                Besides you have the same exact things in games like Hearts, which you apparently loathe even though they go against your narrative.
                >The combo tree garbage
                Graces' combo tree is fine, and it's better than Symphonia's shitty, slow combat.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Combo shit is good, learn how to play games instead of your 3 button input brain-dead gayry, basically outing yourself as a casual player at this point, don't dumb down a series because of your lack of commitment, there's a dozen farm sim JRPG hybrids coming out just for you, but we only have one Tales.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Filtered by Graces
                Typical Tales fag seething the moment he's pushed out his comfort zone

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Everything bad about Zestiria traces back directly to Graces, both in terms of gameplay mechanics and story. Hell even the art direction of the series went into complete dumpster around DOTNW and Graces, thank god for Arise unfucking at least that aspect.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everything bad about Zestiria traces back directly to Graces
                Not really, Zestiria being worse than Graces only points out how the forced merging of the teams created a massive internal disconnection in terms of what they wanted to do in terms of design, and of course Baba himself fucking up big time by not only trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason but succumbing to his simp side.
                >Hell even the art direction of the series went into complete dumpster around DOTNW and Graces
                It didn't, Graces looks really good, so do the DS games, the art direction change didn't happen until Xillia/Xillia 2 where Bamco tried to God Eater-fy the series for lack of better terms, and even there things like the Vita remakes were unscathed, it wasn't until Zestiria that the changes truly settled in.
                >thank god for Arise unfucking at least that aspect.
                Arise didn't unfuck anything, it is legitimately worse than both Zestiria and Berseria, somehow.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zestiria doesn't even deserve to be compared to Graces. Zestiria copied Graces without even attempting to understand what made it work. Which is evident when unlock fusions and spend the rest of the game literally playing as two characters

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Who the FUCK plays this series for pure combat?
                Most people who like it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's just dumb

                Fair enough, sounds hard to recommend things without knowing your tastes. FF7RE is fine, but you'll be a bit lost if you know nothing about it going in. DQ11 is probably fine, the series always has references but doesn't lean on you knowing them to get what's going on.
                Also really recommend tales of vesperia if you've never checked it out, very comfy journey

                Yeah I wasn't sure about Arise, but it worked out. I was going to buy Vesperia, but it wasn't for sale at the time. I will probably get it someday. And hey, thanks for the recommendations, this was nice

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough, sounds hard to recommend things without knowing your tastes. FF7RE is fine, but you'll be a bit lost if you know nothing about it going in. DQ11 is probably fine, the series always has references but doesn't lean on you knowing them to get what's going on.
                Also really recommend tales of vesperia if you've never checked it out, very comfy journey

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Gameplay was pretty good in Scarlet Nexus, but the story wasn't just bad, it was exhausting. Literally mission after mission of fighting the exact same group of former allies and winning, only for them to walk away leisurely. I think this had happened 4 missions in a row when I gave up. All the while, they're screeching about how you don't understand their motives, but never tell you what they are during the mandatory post battle dialogue. Then you get to go hang out with the people who keep attempting to murder you in a family restaurant (where they also don't explain why they need to murder you and harvest brains), and muse to yourself about how deep down, they are good people.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its fucking boring

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it because alphen marries Shion and it's a very cute ending

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nope, it's really cringe and bad.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    my biggest issue with this game is that you can't combo and use the boost system against bosses

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't getting filtered by repetitive story beats, underdeveloped characters and boring combat just called having standards?

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it filtered people who don't like no effort shovelware like Arise

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Edn

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >advertising dlc in the camp window
    yeah fuck this game

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its literally half a game. Arise is a blatantly unfinished mess.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Them removing the animated skits and turning it into comic book styled skits is what did it for me

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who likes Tales games and typically supports them when they finally release, Arise made me want to pirate every future game.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Last dungeon was just boring. Maybe the true Renans died because their hallways was just too long to walk in.
    Final fight with water sephiroth was great tho.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It does look good OP. Too bad the game itself is horribly bad.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember the fishing more than anything.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Business idea : Tales Of Fighting Game

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tales of VS was already a thing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Severely outdated grapchics and Roster

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody in the FGC outside of TalesOfJade cares about Tales and Scamco is incapable of making good fighting games, hell they can't even make Tales of games anymore and you're asking them to make another Tales of fighting game?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Outsource it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      good thing you aren't actually a business man

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vocal minority keeps seething about this game. Hilarious

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tales threads are so fucking bad.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This thread was decent until the last 5 minutes, where the fuck did these bitchy bros come from

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Graces and Symph threads used to be comfy and even Berseria threads were kino for the top tier waifuposting. But Velvet was so hot she made the series mainstream; behold the result.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eternia is still one of the better Tales is only for the "racist gets cured out of his delusions by a brown girl so hard he refuses to leave her planet afterwards" pairing.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    does that answer your question?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If I was an ant, yeah.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Unable to open an image in a separate tab
        You're not an ant, just a moron

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Doesn't confirm the quality of his own picture before talking shit
          You're embarrassing yourself

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not even the one who posted that image, fag, get a clue

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >can't read text in near 4k image
        you just outed yourself as phone poster

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you caught me, god fucking damn it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now I've overcome my retardation, that's a lot of words to describe how they don't like the enemy combo-block mechanism. It does force the game to be more start and stop, but it makes non-boss encounters more threatening too, especially since the lack of lengthy dungeoning and overworlds means theres less resource-scarcity tension.
      I kind of liked figuring out the combination to shatter enemy defences for each character, made it a game of trying to figure out efficient combat flow than just chaining the most hit-efficient moves back to back. Other than that, some points are good, some points feel like they're bitching about perfectly fine mechanics that are just different from what came before.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it makes non-boss encounters more threatening too
        >Any Arise fight
        >Threatening
        You have a godly roll option that makes Souls rollspam look like kiddy shit, you're never in danger at any time in Arise, nothing can threaten you even if we want to consider the narcoleptic enemies that can't even aim their shit properly

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh, it looks really good. By far the prettiest Tales game that has been made to date, prettier than Vesperia, just took them 13 years to top that.
    Too bad that the combat is shit because you can't stun bosses or huge enemies, you never get a fucking skill that lets you dodge out of artes, even if it were at the cost of AP or whatever, meaning that when fighting certain bosses you are limited to attacks that hit few times. Good luck using shit like Dragon Swarm against a boss.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Felt good to install a mod that added ability to cancel out of artes
      Made combat system ten times better

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >last third of a tales game is poorly paced and bad
    woah, what the fuck? this has NEVER happened before

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  65. 2 months ago
    Typical

    the combat is terrible
    gf watched me play for a few nights, then the next time was like I hate this game, its incredibly annoying. I agreed
    made it maybe 20-30h in but the bosses are just terrible, combat is a chore, character building is just weird
    my last tales of game

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tales is a shit franchise with shit art, story and gameplay. Overrated garbage.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It plays like a very stripped down Xenoblade 2 with all the complexity exchanged for hours upon hours of mindless button mashing, if you're going to have basic attacks that amount to nothing then you really should make them automatic; also, its only metric for "difficulty" is sponging.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was fun.
    Can't wait for the next Tales game to be the NEW = BAD one so we can finally talk about this one.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't work with things like Legendia, Tempest, Zestiria etc., it won't work for Arise, it is and always will be a shit game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't work with other Tales games too apparently.

        No, i actually really like the series as a sum of its parts. Mostly PS1 and PS2 entries because back then they actually knew how to make good world and dungeon designs and even write good characters and stories.
        The combo tree garbage paired with dogshit characters this series has devolved to with Graces? Fuck outta there. In the last decade the series is hitting Compile Heart levels of quality. A complete disgrace. Arise was a huge step in the right direction, but nowhere near enough to unfuck it yet.

        >abyss schizo hates any Tales game after it
        somehow not even surprised. opionion still discarded.

        Lmao this series is ass

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody ever says it looks bad. Most take issue with the battle system and how the story turns fucking retarded on the third act

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kid, a Genshin Impact, a mobile fucking chinese gacha, is better jrpg in every aspect than Arise is - which is litterally showelware trash

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    GOTY 2021
    Probably the best combat system ever in an RPG.
    Music, story, and characters on par with the best of the genre.
    Graphics comparable to other modern games.

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >super armor on enemies
    >rolling as the only evasion option besides Alphen who has a parry Arte and Kisara who can ONLY block/parry
    >humanoid bosses stop appearing after the midpoint until the final boss and post-game
    >instanced arenas for combat instead of beautiful field areas that could make for fun encounters
    There was a lot I liked, such as the art direction, story beats, and cutscenes, and a lot I didn't. I'm liking Xenoblade 3 more, and am now waiting for Star Ocean 6 and Granblue Relink.

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