He was only that strong when he was Anakin Skywalker. He lost over half his body when he was toasted in molten hot magma, which forced him in to the cybernetic life support suit. He only survived because he was so strong not even a volcano could kill him. But then he lost the bulk of his mini chloridians.
Vader at the time of the OT is more powerful than he was as Anakin. He lost most of his potential, but Palpatine (and Luke) are still the only force users that are/become stronger than him. Anakin was already one of the greatest duelists in the Jedi order, only falling behind Mace Windu and Yoda, and that was when he was just a lad
I always hated this "Vader was weaker than Anakin" idea. The entire point, in my opinion, was that losing his beauty, most of his limbs, his wife and his children in one blow amplified all the negative emotions. Vader in the suit is like a dark side supernova, and should eclipse regular evil Anakin.
Vader's place at the top of the food chain is dependent on there not being any other Jedi in the universe. Obi-Wan beat him in his prime because he had a situational +2 Attack bonus, Luke beat him down with little more than a frenzy attack, and then he died from a lightning attack that he never learned to control in all his time as a Sith.
>and then he died from a lightning attack that he never learned to control in all his time as a Sith.
He literally couldn't, the suit would've killed him if he tried to use force lightning, also he didn't have any human hand left and that probably has something to do with it
He's literally stabbed her through the abdomen in this image, but you know that. And I know you know that. Why have I bothered responding? Fuck you retard
Anakin let the fight drag out on purpose. he could've maxed her out from the start if he wanted to, but it's not often you get to make sure you're still sharp fighting a Jedi Master. that's worth dragging out for a cool 20 minutes instead of blowing her away in 2.
Eh, Vader has jobbed to Ahsoka and Kenobi already, it's the sort of issue where they want to write oooooh so scary mooks for the good guys to beat but can't have the good guys lose once or twice so they have to bring Vader in but he fucking loses as well cause if the good guys lose they die.
I liked SW as a thing but recent years put me in I really don't give a shit territory. Powerlevel arguing is always tacky but there's no point in SW, it's worse than DB.
i havent played the game but people seem to enjoy seeing vader get hurt. i dont.mind it too much, he gets fucked up constantly but just wont die, he's a dun character to fuck around with and reminds me of sion sometimes.
Vader isn't supposed to get all fucked up each time he duels someone. He's supposed to be far superior to anyone he can run into in the OT era. Vader as a young man was already more skilled and strong than 99.9% of other Jedi
I'm going to play devil's advocate here; the developers wanted us to like the character he's fighting. I think many posters here would say they failed at doing that, but in theory you'd want to see a character you cared about be killed off with some dignity, right? I don't care for her at all, but she's obviously not intended to be some redshirt rebel soldier Vader cuts down in a second.
Her standing up to Vader despite being outmatched is what gives her dignity. Taking away some of Vader's dignity to give it to her is a bad way of doing it. You don't write a OC Jedi, send Vader after her and then have him limb away. The big problem is that Vader seems to win by a "cheap shot" that he gets off because she's careless. Vader should've beaten her through pure skill in a locked duel. Not win due to her making a dumb move while he walks away as a mess
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Anonymous
That's an entirely fair point; refusing to give up even while staring death in the face can be an admirable thing, even if it fails. While I get what they were going for with this scene I think you and I both agree it could have been done better than this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That we do
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
personally all i want from star wars these days is more scenes of darth vader fucking people up. i dont care about any of the other shit, fuck it all just give me a horror film with vader filling the slasher role of a jason voorhees going apeshit at some jedi hideout.
i agree with you i'm just saying that doesnt seem to be how disney is playing it and i dont care enough anymore to belly ache about it.
>the most iconic cinematic villain reminds me of some noname league of legends character that came out 40 years after
as a gen z person: you need to have a nice day
>the most iconic cinematic villain reminds me of some noname league of legends character that came out 40 years after
as a gen z person: you need to have a nice day
It is kind of sad that the game makers went out of their way to preserve Vader's menacing image, at the expense of their own story, and then fags on Ganker seethe anyway.
Vader takes far too much damage in the fight while she remains pretty healthy throughout. She's in much better shape than him just before he stabs her. She should never have done that much harm to him
>I thought Vader is the strongest character in Star Wars
He is not. Anakin Skywalker was "supposed" to be the strongest or at least had the potential to be the strongest, but since his body has been destroyed and he fell to the dark side he is now a cyborg that's more machine than man and a very powerful juggernaut, not the strongest entity in Star Wars, not even close. >How come he gets thrown around by muh ragebait
He does not though, you did not play the game.
>not the strongest entity in Star Wars, not even close.
In regards to force users? It is very close. He didn't become some weakling just because he lost a lot of his potential. Only a handful of force users were more powerful than Anakin when he was still a Jedi. Suit Vader is more powerful than Jedi Anakin ever was
Luke Skywalker and Palpatine are from the same era as him and they mogg him into oblivion. Calling him the strongest is just retarded, when he never reached his chosen one potential. And if we start looking into comics/games/books outside of disney canon then he gets mogged into shit by non human force entities and there are many sith/jedi that could have feats that match his.
I don't much care for Disney canon. I guess I don't care for any canon that makes Vader out to be some middling force user. Luke and Palpatine can beat him, and that's it. Everyone else is a tier below. Anakin could beat up the entire Jedi order save for two Jedi 20 minutes after he became evil. He has only become more powerful since then, not less
I have mixed opinions on the SW Jedi duology, I think the MC is comfy, graphics and combat are great, and imo Vader doesn't get disrespected as much as memes here make it seem, he felt like the big bad in both games and in the first game every encounter you see him you are basically running for your life and barely surviving while he crushes everything around you. The black alien bug eyed femoid is obvious nu disney star wars feminist blm pandering, but I just try to ignore her since it's still better than majority of new SW content at least.
>Vader doesn't get disrespected as much as memes here make it seem
Vader only get disrespected during the duel with her, especially by its conclusion. The rest of the story treats him properly
Built for self-inserting of nerd teenage and middle aged cat ladies that spend 24/7 shlicking to AO3 fanfictions to the idea of her getting bred by sith men.
The biggest tragedy in Star Wars is that we never got KoTOR 3. Even if they made it now it would be too late cause both Bioware and Obsidian are complete trash.
The buildup was so fucking kino as well. Having peak of bioware creating a star wars game focused on revan, then having peak of obsidian creating a sequel to it focused on exile, and then having a third where they hopefully collaborate and avellone's vision of revan and exile uniting together against the greater menace pans out would've been so fucking kino. A shame bioware's greed gave us fucking SWTOR instead because they thought singleplayer games were dying and they could replace WoW
I fell for the meme, and out of the eight possible origin stories, I literally only enjoyed two. Sith Warrior and Imperial Agent. They are honestly pretty good, but nothing can save the game from having terrible MMO shit fetch quests and side quest slop that completely ruins the pacing and fun of the game.
The game is set up now so that you barely have to do any side quests at all. You can basically just focus on the story quests alone since they massively boosted the XP you get for completing them
yes, I don't want it either now. It's like if valve actually announced an episode 3 or a half life 3, it's been so long the old guys are gone, it would just be shit.
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there's some fun to be had in tor but yes, they completely fucked over revan. I won't spoil any details for you but I wish they would have just left it where no one ever saw him again.
They didn't just stop at Revan, they ruined the Exile too.
I disliked most of them to be honest. I liked Sith Warrior's companions only, Vette/Jaesa are hot as fuck and into some kinky shit. Male ones are pretty dogshit, not gonna lie, but you only get to bring one companion at a time anyway.
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Anonymous
Can you solo all the content and will I need to pay? >Vette/Jaesa
I'm assuming most of the female companions are like Isabelle from DA2 based of Bioware's recent track record. >Male ones are dogshit
Gay as fuck. I want more war stories with Canderous.
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Anonymous
You can solo all the content, and you can beat the entire original main story for free. You'll need to play to pay DLC expansion stories that come post main story. Vette is definitely nothing like Isabela, and she is the only good thing about SWTOR. Jaesa is good if you are into kinky master/slave shit and turning/corrupting jedi teenage girls into sith cumdumpster apprentices while their master watches and cries. There's no one like Canderous in the game, he is too kino for swtorbabbies to handle.
I don't know, i don't think i want it. A studio has to prove itself it can make a good game before tapping that.
I rather not have it than see it ruined.
yes, I don't want it either now. It's like if valve actually announced an episode 3 or a half life 3, it's been so long the old guys are gone, it would just be shit.
>SWTOR
I never tried it but I heard they bastardized Revan. One day I may give it a try.
there's some fun to be had in tor but yes, they completely fucked over revan. I won't spoil any details for you but I wish they would have just left it where no one ever saw him again.
Because she's Black and based on the actress that makes games sell.
no black actress makes games sell, not even the pretty ones. Just look at Forspoken.
well that's pretty simple! she black and a woman!
Who can beat that?
Also no one dies in slop wars according to modern day slop wars.
But vader is black and disabled, poor boy dindu nuffin he just trying to rid of da slavers.
>Darth Vader
I honestly couldn't give a fuck about this boomer OC.
the force is female, might even be a black female
Well she died and he didn't so I guess she wasn't stronger.
He was only that strong when he was Anakin Skywalker. He lost over half his body when he was toasted in molten hot magma, which forced him in to the cybernetic life support suit. He only survived because he was so strong not even a volcano could kill him. But then he lost the bulk of his mini chloridians.
He chokes out one of his own guys through a monitor in the OT
Vader at the time of the OT is more powerful than he was as Anakin. He lost most of his potential, but Palpatine (and Luke) are still the only force users that are/become stronger than him. Anakin was already one of the greatest duelists in the Jedi order, only falling behind Mace Windu and Yoda, and that was when he was just a lad
I always hated this "Vader was weaker than Anakin" idea. The entire point, in my opinion, was that losing his beauty, most of his limbs, his wife and his children in one blow amplified all the negative emotions. Vader in the suit is like a dark side supernova, and should eclipse regular evil Anakin.
Kenobi's series and this game happen in the same year, so if Kenobi comes first then Vader was probably still in pain after Obi-Wan fucking him up
>how did a non canon character appear in a non canon situation??
Star Wars is so gay now, It mostly just for girls.
everything is for "girls" now
>Ram Jamoram
Nope. Your character's name is Betty.
her tongue is disgusting
Never happened, rage bait thread
honestly Vader has become a total jobber. Always was, I guess
Vader's place at the top of the food chain is dependent on there not being any other Jedi in the universe. Obi-Wan beat him in his prime because he had a situational +2 Attack bonus, Luke beat him down with little more than a frenzy attack, and then he died from a lightning attack that he never learned to control in all his time as a Sith.
>Vader's place at the top of the food chain is dependent on there not being any other Jedi in the universe.
Vader has killed countless Jedi.
Nihilus devoured entire planets a number of times. Vader has the problem of simply being a large man in armor in a setting full of them.
Nihilus is controlled by his Hunger.
That's not Power.
Now go be a good boy & watch Hello Greedo.
God I hate what Legends writers did to OT characters by turning them into space gokus and vegetas
I'm fine with it.
Star Wars should be weird.
You can still have a weird space opera without turning it into a dragon ball story
Meh, I never understood the power creep shit.
What? you don't like cool giant blasts of energy?
>and then he died from a lightning attack that he never learned to control in all his time as a Sith.
He literally couldn't, the suit would've killed him if he tried to use force lightning, also he didn't have any human hand left and that probably has something to do with it
untrue, you're just not giving any credence to Disney canon comic book Vader feats where Anakin does insane shit
Not impressed.
what about this guy? any better? lol
> AAAAAAA TENTACLES INSANITY
> *Chuckles* i killed children for breakfast
No, Vader is just strong as shit
Nothing beyond the original trilogy and select parts of the prequels are canon.
>canon.
Real ones don't say canon they say in continuity.
The old books and Kotor 1+2 are canon no matter what Disney says. It is their grave dancing slop that is non canon
He's literally stabbed her through the abdomen in this image, but you know that. And I know you know that. Why have I bothered responding? Fuck you retard
Beats me, she got her ass kicked last time and a few years of training aren’t going to fix that.
Post-deal character concepts are boring as fuck
Yes, even dude from game of thrones which got his head crushed
Yes yes however...
Why are they fighting on a mario kart star course?
To make the world a better place.
It's where you go when you die.
so that dude came back for ashoka or did they CGI him in?
came back
wasnt he early retired on a ranch?
Both in obiwan series used a little trick of cgi+shadows to not look to old
How does this chick's hair (?) Never get cut?
Anakin seems to lose a lot despite being the most powerfullest Jedi ever
>That last scene where Anakin acted like a slow retard opening himself for strike, so Ahsoka could look good
YASS QUEEEN!!!
Saban Productions
>I've heard that before
Wait, this Vader Anakin? Holy shit.
>bald woman character
Diversity Jones is the most powerful and badass character in every video game, anon-kun.
She's so fucking gross why don't they just pick someone else
I thought the canon was revan was the strongest tho
No, he was just the coolest Rogue jedi
No, anykey had highest amount of chromosomes in all of jedi order ever
Welcome to power creep and the era of snowflakes oc
Vader threw the fight because he didn't want to be accused of being a racist misogynist by curbstomping a STRONG BLACK WOMAN
Anakin let the fight drag out on purpose. he could've maxed her out from the start if he wanted to, but it's not often you get to make sure you're still sharp fighting a Jedi Master. that's worth dragging out for a cool 20 minutes instead of blowing her away in 2.
Eh, Vader has jobbed to Ahsoka and Kenobi already, it's the sort of issue where they want to write oooooh so scary mooks for the good guys to beat but can't have the good guys lose once or twice so they have to bring Vader in but he fucking loses as well cause if the good guys lose they die.
If it wasn't made by George Lucas it is not canon.
StarLog interviews don't count.
I liked SW as a thing but recent years put me in I really don't give a shit territory. Powerlevel arguing is always tacky but there's no point in SW, it's worse than DB.
Does it still run like shit on PC? What will a 3060 get me?
he literally kills her like a second after this
He's still limping away from the fight. That really shouldn't happen against one Jedi, unless that Jedi is Luke
i havent played the game but people seem to enjoy seeing vader get hurt. i dont.mind it too much, he gets fucked up constantly but just wont die, he's a dun character to fuck around with and reminds me of sion sometimes.
>dun
fun* sorry i am taking a shit and phone typing sucks.
Vader isn't supposed to get all fucked up each time he duels someone. He's supposed to be far superior to anyone he can run into in the OT era. Vader as a young man was already more skilled and strong than 99.9% of other Jedi
I'm going to play devil's advocate here; the developers wanted us to like the character he's fighting. I think many posters here would say they failed at doing that, but in theory you'd want to see a character you cared about be killed off with some dignity, right? I don't care for her at all, but she's obviously not intended to be some redshirt rebel soldier Vader cuts down in a second.
Her standing up to Vader despite being outmatched is what gives her dignity. Taking away some of Vader's dignity to give it to her is a bad way of doing it. You don't write a OC Jedi, send Vader after her and then have him limb away. The big problem is that Vader seems to win by a "cheap shot" that he gets off because she's careless. Vader should've beaten her through pure skill in a locked duel. Not win due to her making a dumb move while he walks away as a mess
That's an entirely fair point; refusing to give up even while staring death in the face can be an admirable thing, even if it fails. While I get what they were going for with this scene I think you and I both agree it could have been done better than this.
That we do
personally all i want from star wars these days is more scenes of darth vader fucking people up. i dont care about any of the other shit, fuck it all just give me a horror film with vader filling the slasher role of a jason voorhees going apeshit at some jedi hideout.
i agree with you i'm just saying that doesnt seem to be how disney is playing it and i dont care enough anymore to belly ache about it.
you are an actual retard. go back.
>the most iconic cinematic villain reminds me of some noname league of legends character that came out 40 years after
as a gen z person: you need to have a nice day
He is probably talking about Sion from the greatest Star Wars game ever created, retard.
It is kind of sad that the game makers went out of their way to preserve Vader's menacing image, at the expense of their own story, and then fags on Ganker seethe anyway.
Vader takes far too much damage in the fight while she remains pretty healthy throughout. She's in much better shape than him just before he stabs her. She should never have done that much harm to him
>I thought Vader is the strongest character in Star Wars
He is not. Anakin Skywalker was "supposed" to be the strongest or at least had the potential to be the strongest, but since his body has been destroyed and he fell to the dark side he is now a cyborg that's more machine than man and a very powerful juggernaut, not the strongest entity in Star Wars, not even close.
>How come he gets thrown around by muh ragebait
He does not though, you did not play the game.
>not the strongest entity in Star Wars, not even close.
In regards to force users? It is very close. He didn't become some weakling just because he lost a lot of his potential. Only a handful of force users were more powerful than Anakin when he was still a Jedi. Suit Vader is more powerful than Jedi Anakin ever was
Luke Skywalker and Palpatine are from the same era as him and they mogg him into oblivion. Calling him the strongest is just retarded, when he never reached his chosen one potential. And if we start looking into comics/games/books outside of disney canon then he gets mogged into shit by non human force entities and there are many sith/jedi that could have feats that match his.
I don't much care for Disney canon. I guess I don't care for any canon that makes Vader out to be some middling force user. Luke and Palpatine can beat him, and that's it. Everyone else is a tier below. Anakin could beat up the entire Jedi order save for two Jedi 20 minutes after he became evil. He has only become more powerful since then, not less
I have mixed opinions on the SW Jedi duology, I think the MC is comfy, graphics and combat are great, and imo Vader doesn't get disrespected as much as memes here make it seem, he felt like the big bad in both games and in the first game every encounter you see him you are basically running for your life and barely surviving while he crushes everything around you. The black alien bug eyed femoid is obvious nu disney star wars feminist blm pandering, but I just try to ignore her since it's still better than majority of new SW content at least.
>Vader doesn't get disrespected as much as memes here make it seem
Vader only get disrespected during the duel with her, especially by its conclusion. The rest of the story treats him properly
Hey guys, but what about Rey Skywalker?
Built for self-inserting of nerd teenage and middle aged cat ladies that spend 24/7 shlicking to AO3 fanfictions to the idea of her getting bred by sith men.
Despite sounding like an unhinged shitpost it isn't, and I hate that fact.
Wife
Who? No character by that name in Star Wars.
Every single official appearance he had since ESB tried to make him appear weaker and more pathetic, although it is justified in RotJ
The biggest tragedy in Star Wars is that we never got KoTOR 3. Even if they made it now it would be too late cause both Bioware and Obsidian are complete trash.
The buildup was so fucking kino as well. Having peak of bioware creating a star wars game focused on revan, then having peak of obsidian creating a sequel to it focused on exile, and then having a third where they hopefully collaborate and avellone's vision of revan and exile uniting together against the greater menace pans out would've been so fucking kino. A shame bioware's greed gave us fucking SWTOR instead because they thought singleplayer games were dying and they could replace WoW
>SWTOR
I never tried it but I heard they bastardized Revan. One day I may give it a try.
I fell for the meme, and out of the eight possible origin stories, I literally only enjoyed two. Sith Warrior and Imperial Agent. They are honestly pretty good, but nothing can save the game from having terrible MMO shit fetch quests and side quest slop that completely ruins the pacing and fun of the game.
The game is set up now so that you barely have to do any side quests at all. You can basically just focus on the story quests alone since they massively boosted the XP you get for completing them
Are the companions any good?
I disliked most of them to be honest. I liked Sith Warrior's companions only, Vette/Jaesa are hot as fuck and into some kinky shit. Male ones are pretty dogshit, not gonna lie, but you only get to bring one companion at a time anyway.
Can you solo all the content and will I need to pay?
>Vette/Jaesa
I'm assuming most of the female companions are like Isabelle from DA2 based of Bioware's recent track record.
>Male ones are dogshit
Gay as fuck. I want more war stories with Canderous.
You can solo all the content, and you can beat the entire original main story for free. You'll need to play to pay DLC expansion stories that come post main story. Vette is definitely nothing like Isabela, and she is the only good thing about SWTOR. Jaesa is good if you are into kinky master/slave shit and turning/corrupting jedi teenage girls into sith cumdumpster apprentices while their master watches and cries. There's no one like Canderous in the game, he is too kino for swtorbabbies to handle.
They didn't just stop at Revan, they ruined the Exile too.
I don't know, i don't think i want it. A studio has to prove itself it can make a good game before tapping that.
I rather not have it than see it ruined.
yes, I don't want it either now. It's like if valve actually announced an episode 3 or a half life 3, it's been so long the old guys are gone, it would just be shit.
there's some fun to be had in tor but yes, they completely fucked over revan. I won't spoil any details for you but I wish they would have just left it where no one ever saw him again.
What about us never getting Imperial Commando or 1313 or Jedi Knight 3 or...
God the amount of SW games that we never got is too damn high.
Vader was only voiced by a black man. She is both voiced and played by a black woman.
Debra Wilson has the power of Mad TV behind her.
I still like Debra Wilson. I just don't like celebrity cameos in my video games. Let her voice characters but stop using her face.