220 bucks for a Ryzen 7 3700X, 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 and a B450 board. And a 3700X only consumes 18 watts more than a 3770K so you don't need a new power supply.
Are you retarded?
The technological leap in computer everything between early 2000s and early 2010s was enormous, just compare something like DmC2 or Max Payne 2 that came out in 2003 and games like GTAV and Bioshock Infinite that came out in 2013.
The technological leap between 2013 and now? Basically fucking nothing happened. Games barely look better now than they did 10 years. Shartfield still looks like a game from 2013. The hardware also barely got better, especially in terms of CPUs.
Pentium 4 was 65nm (at best), 180 at worst. I7 3770 is 14nm, which is a GIGANTIC improvement in technology. I7 13700K is still at fucking 10nm, which is a pathetic improvement in comparison to 14nm 10 years ago
Yes, retard, that's the entire god damn point. It is a fucking miracle that you can still use hardware from 2013 and even launch anything made in 2023 on it. Back in the day hardware could become obsolete in a year. Are there advancements? Yes, you can easily google benchmarks of 2500k vs modern CPU and see quadruple performance gains, but the difference is that shit still runs, while P4 would certainly not start, I dunno, Mass Effect 3 or whatever was the shit in 2013.
Of course you gays will spin it that it is bad that hardware doesn't advance fast enough.
The only reason I can think of people still having an old computer for old games is to actually still play those old games with virtually no issues, like Lost Planet 2
Complaining you can't run new game in 2023 with your old specs - literally two console generations later as well, mind you - is poorfag speak
Even with a CPU that isn't bottlenecking. The 2070 gets about 40ish FPS outside. And about 60ish inside buildings though even inside buildings it regularly drops in the 40s.
But seriously the i5 7400 absolutely bottlenecks the 2070. That CPU cannot handle far less demanding games without drops. It's time to upgrade. a cheap LGA 1700 board is what 85 euros here. And an i3 12100f is 110 euros. And you can just use your old ram.
7400 is bad. It's from the era of intel CPU's before Ryzen forced them to step up. It's barely an improvement over the ancient 2500k. 4c no hyperthreading is just obsolete.
The card still hold up quite well. But that CPU is your biggest bottleneck. Best upgrade choice would be an LGA 1700 intel. An i3 12100f which performs better than a 7th gen i7 or a i5 12400f which performs better than any cpu you could put to your current board are great budget options. If you want more performance an i5 12600k or 13600k are great choices.
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The 12600kf can be had for 225€ in my country which is more on the expensive side. 12100f for 99€. And 12400f for 165€. And a cheap ddr4 board can be had for about 100 euros. A cheap b660 board is 92€.
Serious question because im dumb. Arent i7 cpus supposed to be better than an i5? Do they not go i5 9600, i5 13400, i7 7400 or whatever numbers? Are they not just linear upgrades? Why the fuck do parts manufacturers just not have a linear system.
i7s have more cores than i5s. They are faster only if the program you're using can make use of the additional cores, most games can't.
At this moment in time, a 6C/12T CPU is more than enough for 99% of videogames; 8C/16T if you want some spare cores for multitasking. Anything above 8 cores is a complete waste of money for gaming.
>i5 6600k >GTX970
what do I upgrade to if I want to last another near decade, I'd have budgeted like 1500 bong dollars but after looking how prices got the last few years I could go 2000. And is 2k a meme?
Fuck that noise then. I haven't messed with mine in so long building it from scratch will be an effort. I just want to futureproof a bit, I mostly play older stuff but lately there's some fringe new releases or things on the way I know I won't be able to handle with my current set-up. (Think an eventual TESVI, some DBZslop, SF6 etc)
Well I looked up some components. And for 1700£ you can get the following:
MB Asus B650M-A Wifi 140£
Ryzen 7 7800X3D 370£ (comes with Starfield as well for free)
32gb DDR5 5600mhz 100£
2tb Seagate Firecuda 520 SSD 95£
Seasonic G12 GM 850W 80 plus gold PSU 90£
Deepcool Ak620 cooler 63£
That's 858£. Then comes the most expensive part the GPU: For 800 pounds you can get a 7900XT or 4070ti. For about 1000 pounds you can get a 7900XTX or 4080. Then add a case to the cost as well.
Wew those prices really have gone up. I'll look into all this as a foundation anon thanks. I do regret going with a budget Corsair midtower case back in the day but it's done well. My hyperX cooler has been working since day one for like the £30 it cost me back then too but I figure if there're any parts I port over it'll just be storage.
I'm running an I7-4770k, GTX 1080, 16gb RAM, 500gb SSD, 1tb HDD.
Main problem I have with my PC these days is that I'm running out of storage space because I torrent a shit load of shows and movies. I don't play new games on the PC anymore because the cost of upgrading the parts that matter is crazy, especially when I've got a Series X sitting there that can play most of them perfectly fine.
I probably will get around to it at some point, or a really big external drive so I can watch my torrented shit on my 55" tv through the Xbox.
Also just checked, my CPU is actually an I7-7700k so it's not quite so bad as I thought. And the HDD is 2tb, not 1tb. Still only has like 80gb free space left though.
Are intel CPU and AMD gpu still the way to go? I haven't paid attention to the landscape since bitcoin mining started, but I'm thinking of upgrading again.
No.
Why are CPUs so fucking expensive.
It's 400 bucks for a 13600k you cheap fuck
Remember most of these people are literally unemployed and living at home
>not living at home
>when the kino 7800x3d exists
lol
lmao
What did he mean by this?
I have that one but it already struggles with some modern games. And with modern games I mean Starfield.
Everything struggles in Starfield, that game is CPU bound and badly made.
>starfield
>modern
It released this month, you can't get more modern than that.
that doesn’t make the technology used modern though
Did you take a look to the minimum requirements?
CPUs are cheap. Decent motherboards are expensive as fuck. My mobo cost almost as much as my 13900k
My mobo cost $100 more than my 13900k
Really? You can get a used Ryzen 7 3700X for 100 bucks and a new B450 MB for 70 bucks. Than 50 bucks for 32gb ddr4 ram and you are set.
>100 bucks
Where? 3700X is about 400 €urinos at a physical store here.
Ebay. Facebook marketplace. Everyday I can find 3700x's in my countrys version of craiglist for 95-110€.
What are you talking about. A 5600 is like 130 yuros.
They're pretty reasonable, compared to GPU's they're downright cheap
Are you kidding me? CPUs cost as much as GPUs are supposed to cost.
Because people are willing to pay that much.
I think you mistake cpu with gpu
Ten fucking year old CPU. You think?
yeah but then id have to get a new motherboard + cpu + ram + power supply ehh
Then it's not your cpu it's your whole ass computer
its not like I can just get a random new cpu and put it into the fucking lga 1155 socket you know
i love pc gaming
Stop bitching, your computer is old
i know that, so what do you suggest anon what kinda motherboard should I look for
220 bucks for a Ryzen 7 3700X, 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 and a B450 board. And a 3700X only consumes 18 watts more than a 3770K so you don't need a new power supply.
>bro just consoooom new product
Imagine saying that in 2013 while having Pentium 4. You would be laughed out of every conversation you are in.
Are you retarded?
The technological leap in computer everything between early 2000s and early 2010s was enormous, just compare something like DmC2 or Max Payne 2 that came out in 2003 and games like GTAV and Bioshock Infinite that came out in 2013.
The technological leap between 2013 and now? Basically fucking nothing happened. Games barely look better now than they did 10 years. Shartfield still looks like a game from 2013. The hardware also barely got better, especially in terms of CPUs.
Pentium 4 was 65nm (at best), 180 at worst. I7 3770 is 14nm, which is a GIGANTIC improvement in technology. I7 13700K is still at fucking 10nm, which is a pathetic improvement in comparison to 14nm 10 years ago
>gta v was 10 years ago
Yes, retard, that's the entire god damn point. It is a fucking miracle that you can still use hardware from 2013 and even launch anything made in 2023 on it. Back in the day hardware could become obsolete in a year. Are there advancements? Yes, you can easily google benchmarks of 2500k vs modern CPU and see quadruple performance gains, but the difference is that shit still runs, while P4 would certainly not start, I dunno, Mass Effect 3 or whatever was the shit in 2013.
Of course you gays will spin it that it is bad that hardware doesn't advance fast enough.
in 2013, moore's law wasn't anywhere near the joke it is today.
The only reason I can think of people still having an old computer for old games is to actually still play those old games with virtually no issues, like Lost Planet 2
Complaining you can't run new game in 2023 with your old specs - literally two console generations later as well, mind you - is poorfag speak
>poorfag speak
Virtually all that's left of Ganker. Why do you think they hate dlss so much? They can't run it on ten year old cards.
You don't need anything better to game on pc, all the good games are indies.
And you can still emulate shitloads with a 2600k
I5-4670 +8gb ram here. Even chrome is a resource hog
That's on par to my 7700hq from where I'm shitposting right now. Yes, upgrade
dont upgrade just for starfield
if you do that the garden gnomes win
Is an i57400 with a 2070 good enough for starfield?
Nope. The much better Ryzen 5 2600X is bottlenecking a weaker card like the minimun spec 1070ti in cities. I'm not sure if even a 7700k is enough.
Would i at least get 60fps on medium? Everything I've seen says the cpu shouldn't bottleneck that card too much
Even with a CPU that isn't bottlenecking. The 2070 gets about 40ish FPS outside. And about 60ish inside buildings though even inside buildings it regularly drops in the 40s.
But seriously the i5 7400 absolutely bottlenecks the 2070. That CPU cannot handle far less demanding games without drops. It's time to upgrade. a cheap LGA 1700 board is what 85 euros here. And an i3 12100f is 110 euros. And you can just use your old ram.
I actually have 32 gb of ram. Upgrade my power supply since my old one was failing. Just need to upgrade the card and cpu.is a 7400 bad?
7400 is bad. It's from the era of intel CPU's before Ryzen forced them to step up. It's barely an improvement over the ancient 2500k. 4c no hyperthreading is just obsolete.
The card still hold up quite well. But that CPU is your biggest bottleneck. Best upgrade choice would be an LGA 1700 intel. An i3 12100f which performs better than a 7th gen i7 or a i5 12400f which performs better than any cpu you could put to your current board are great budget options. If you want more performance an i5 12600k or 13600k are great choices.
The 12600kf can be had for 225€ in my country which is more on the expensive side. 12100f for 99€. And 12400f for 165€. And a cheap ddr4 board can be had for about 100 euros. A cheap b660 board is 92€.
>i5-3570k
>1060
>8gb ddr3
>windows 7
If you won't upgrade Windows at least install Linux. Unless you refuse to use modern software and play new releases, of course.
same build here
idk bro my 6 core ivy bridge xeon seems fine
Serious question because im dumb. Arent i7 cpus supposed to be better than an i5? Do they not go i5 9600, i5 13400, i7 7400 or whatever numbers? Are they not just linear upgrades? Why the fuck do parts manufacturers just not have a linear system.
Idk, I just use a comparative chart.
i7s have more cores than i5s. They are faster only if the program you're using can make use of the additional cores, most games can't.
At this moment in time, a 6C/12T CPU is more than enough for 99% of videogames; 8C/16T if you want some spare cores for multitasking. Anything above 8 cores is a complete waste of money for gaming.
delid+liquid metal+watercooled 8700k @ 4.9Ghz
doesnt get hotter than 60C while gaming
>i5 6600k
>GTX970
what do I upgrade to if I want to last another near decade, I'd have budgeted like 1500 bong dollars but after looking how prices got the last few years I could go 2000. And is 2k a meme?
2k is a meme if you want your hardware to last a decade. You will need to upgrade sooner if you go 2k.
Fuck that noise then. I haven't messed with mine in so long building it from scratch will be an effort. I just want to futureproof a bit, I mostly play older stuff but lately there's some fringe new releases or things on the way I know I won't be able to handle with my current set-up. (Think an eventual TESVI, some DBZslop, SF6 etc)
Well I looked up some components. And for 1700£ you can get the following:
MB Asus B650M-A Wifi 140£
Ryzen 7 7800X3D 370£ (comes with Starfield as well for free)
32gb DDR5 5600mhz 100£
2tb Seagate Firecuda 520 SSD 95£
Seasonic G12 GM 850W 80 plus gold PSU 90£
Deepcool Ak620 cooler 63£
That's 858£. Then comes the most expensive part the GPU: For 800 pounds you can get a 7900XT or 4070ti. For about 1000 pounds you can get a 7900XTX or 4080. Then add a case to the cost as well.
Wew those prices really have gone up. I'll look into all this as a foundation anon thanks. I do regret going with a budget Corsair midtower case back in the day but it's done well. My hyperX cooler has been working since day one for like the £30 it cost me back then too but I figure if there're any parts I port over it'll just be storage.
I'm running an I7-4770k, GTX 1080, 16gb RAM, 500gb SSD, 1tb HDD.
Main problem I have with my PC these days is that I'm running out of storage space because I torrent a shit load of shows and movies. I don't play new games on the PC anymore because the cost of upgrading the parts that matter is crazy, especially when I've got a Series X sitting there that can play most of them perfectly fine.
We live in an era of sub 70 dollar 2tb ssd's. Why not just get one?
I probably will get around to it at some point, or a really big external drive so I can watch my torrented shit on my 55" tv through the Xbox.
Also just checked, my CPU is actually an I7-7700k so it's not quite so bad as I thought. And the HDD is 2tb, not 1tb. Still only has like 80gb free space left though.
>i5 760
I win
1050ti laptop
Are intel CPU and AMD gpu still the way to go? I haven't paid attention to the landscape since bitcoin mining started, but I'm thinking of upgrading again.
i'm thinking based
That's my build but I have a Ryzen 5 5XXX
>GTX 1060 6G
I-I'll wait for 50 series cards
>i5 9600KF