This is a common whataboutism that the larian marketers will pull when you bring the Tencent factor into the equation.
They tried to tell me to burn my pants yesterday because they were made in china. Very strange cope.
The fact that you have been engaging in this hamster wheel of a duscussionfor more than a day is concerning.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The bros been here for weeks die harding for todd and starslop lol he was on vacation posting from his phone seething at people saying the game sucks calling them lairan shills (fucking ridiculous when he's simping for a MICROSOFT game lol)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why is it concerning? Concern trolling like you are doesn't have an effect here.
Yeah that shit cracks me up. There's plenty to criticise in Starfield without having to resort to review score gayry, player numbers and pathetic mental gymnastics.
Yeah that shit cracks me up. There's plenty to criticise in Starfield without having to resort to review score gayry, player numbers and pathetic mental gymnastics.
It's starting to make me hate NMS, a game I used to love. Just because it's being wrongly used as a measuring stick for this game. Both games are doing different things.
do you know how percentages work?
you know them owning 30% of a private company that the CEO owns the rest of means they have exactly no say in the company, right/
>he thinks a corporation with a vested interest in making their product seem like a huge success doesn't spin the numbers to make it look that way, especially when they're unverifiable
fucking retard
And you wonder why they don't add PS sales, 2k sales in the PS5 version, now Imagine the real number on steam, looks like the self proclaimed GOTY was a lie after all.
looking at the steam achievements now, nearly 15% of people who bought bg3 never even completed the opening sequence where you escape the nautilus ship, and going further down the list it looks like ~60% of people didn't even make it past act 1.
of course they wouldnt.
most bought it because of the hype. after they saw the combat and how atrocious ist they got bored.
You realize if it's retaining nearly half a million peak players more than a month after release, but 60% of people never beat act 1, that means it sold many millions of copies right?
swen confirmed that the game sold about 2.5 million copies, most of which were in the 4 year early access period. the game's peak after 4 years of sales culminating in a final "official" release was less than 1 million players. i can't help but wonder if they actually turned a profit on the game given how much time and money they sunk into it. then again they did have that tencent shill slave army to market it so they saved a ton there.
No you absolute fucking retardmongoloid
It sold 2.5M IN EARLY ACCES
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
then why we don't see any sales data 1 month and a week later ? every developers love to brag about sales, from Software, Rockstar, EA, Nintendo, Sony, Xbox, etc.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>every developers love to brag about sales, from Software, Rockstar, EA, Nintendo, Sony, Xbox, etc.
Publicly-traded companies do that as a signal to investors. FromSoft never bragged about Elden Ring's sales, Bamco did.
Larian is privately owned and self-published. It doesn't need to post its sales.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
damn
source?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
and probably a quarter of that after launch because everyone who wanted to buy it already did, and the gay bear sex stunt only drew in a handful of degenerate gays like you.
So you believe most of the players I this past month have been early access players who were just waiting for the official release to play? That it barely sold any new copies despite topping the steam charts for a month straight and having more hype and positive word of mouth than any game this year? That’s such sad cope anon. If you want to talk about a game that got very few new players between early access and launch, look at Starfield. The player count only went up by a few thousand this week compared to last weekend.
of course they wouldnt.
most bought it because of the hype. after they saw the combat and how atrocious ist they got bored.
>newgays don't know that modded games or playing offline disables cheevos.
I guess if you're going to go by that metric then less than 40% of players beat Elden Ring?
>I could've just played for 15 minutes and never touch the game again and still be counted among those 6 millions. This id the point of service like gamepass. Bloat nunbers .
Considering game pass literally gives this away to players on Xbox for free it's remarkable the PC version obtained such numbers. Quite impressive if you think about it.
If you even click on the game in gamepass it counts as having 'engaged' with the game and you get included in the total number of players, even if you don't have it installed.
Game pass isn’t free. Guarantee you Starfield is raping Baldurs Gate if you include Game Pass numbers. So we’re just pretending Game Pass just doesn’t count because….? Yeah; go fuck your self.
>less than half the peak of an indie CRPG >impressive for what was an $8b acquisition and supposed to be Game of the Decade
Give it up bot, your brain is fried
so I'm not a fantasy gay especially not a highfantasy gay old-school RPG gay lover, should I give Boulder Gate a try? Is it worth it even if I don't like anime?
What's the point of threads like this?
300k concurrent players doesn't mean "only 300k people bought the game"
they made their money back tenfold and the game will keep Bethesda funded for the next 50 years
This isn't the tortanic you think it is.
These threads don't feel very organic, are spambots taking over?
>300k concurrent players doesn't mean "only 300k people bought the game"
The point is that, on Steam, more people are playing a month-old CRPG than the more recent Bethesda game.
That's all it means, and shows that BG3 is more popular on PC than Starfield.
wowww good fucking job showing this again retard we really care so much about numbers , numbers are all that matter clearly and even besides that starfield is on other platforms so the numbers cant show, good job retard showing this again yes yes cool we see that starfield has less players on steam you really got us fucking mutt
It is for numberbrained retards
HAHA YOUR MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ONLY MADE BAZILLION DOLLARS
MY MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY MADE KAZILLION DOLLARS HAA HAA MY COMPANY IS BETTER THAN YOURS
LAALAAALAAALAAA
The larian discord does not like people addressing the inflated bot numbers for BG3 because of the 30% stake Tencent has and how they do this to everything. Your thread is probably going to be highly combative.
Fallout 4 peaked at 472k players on steam against 2 consoles and Bethesda launcher, since then steam tripled in size.
In 2023, Starfield can't even beat fallout 4 against ONE dead console (20 million units, steam wipes the floor with it several times) and ONE dead store. >But gamepass 6 million players
1.)Forza Horizon 5 had 10 million players in 2021 and gamepass numbers grew since then
2.)Steam is probably making up 1-2 million of those players. Let's be generous and give 1 million xbox+Microsoft store.
3.)Even a well known flop, Hi-Fi Rush, managed to clear 2 million players thanks to gamepass
4.)Most importantly, steamfags are extremely loyal to their online drm store, which is why claiming they went to Microsoft store is fucking laughable.
5.) In total, the gamepass deal drew 3-4 mil players. But what is "player"? A person clicked on the play button once.
Bonus: >but one million concurrent players bearchuds btfo!
Baldur's Gate also came out on gog, and gog numbers are unknown.
How is Starfield as successful as people say it is? It has like no cultural impact whatsoever and I don't know a single person personally who is playing it. Every single person I knew played Skyrim when it was out.
On my Steam friendlist only 4 other people have played the game, 2 of them for 70+ hours, 1 for 10 hours, the other for 22 hours (and that guy is now playing No Man's Sky) KEK
People throw around the 6 million figure as if they are garden gnomes or something. Its nothing special, most of these millions are from people who have gamepass. I would wager less than half actually bought the game.
I killed that bitch, her corpse lies forever in the Shadowfell. On the plus side, the camp companions don't even register her death, they talk as if she's still alive, KEK
Yes, whereas Retodded Howard put the absolute worst first impression he could muster in his game, making you a miner working for a femoid chink and then get sent by a moron to go visit New San Francisco full of Fifth Element tier xenoboons and xenoboriginals.
>couldn't even manage to finish their game
Kek >spend most of the game talking to and romancing Shadowheart >she doesn't even show up in the ending
Bravo Larian
Apparently the way they came to that conclusion was based on small variables at the code level, where I saw someone point out that if you used the same criteria to judge New Vegas then New Vegas technically has over 1,000,000,000,000 endings.
SISTERS NOOOO NOT LIKE THIS! HOW COULD A GAME MADE FOR THE PC FIRST BE BETTER THAN ONE MADE FOR A 5 YEAR OLD CONSOLE?! IT LITERALLY MAKES NO HECKIN SENSE!
Both are rpgs where you talk for half of the game. Starfield is still a lot more comparable to BG3 than an ARPG like Elden Ring where 90% of the game is combat.
>Starfield will stay with you for an entire generation.
Mate if the creation kit doesn't come out soon Starfield isn't going to stay with me until the end of the month.
ummm chudbros? what happened to go woke get broke? fuck... did we lose again? I just searched up the stock price for gilette and they're doing better than ever wtf... I miss trump guys... we used to be winners...
what's the next cope from larian bots now ? almost 1 month and 2 weeks later, still no sales data of Baldur gay 3
>le 6 million
How many of those just had gaypass and are accidental Starfield players?
>still no sales data
Larian is a private company.
larian is a CCP company
tencent also owns goodsmile, that owns Ganker
you posting in a ccp website son
This is a common whataboutism that the larian marketers will pull when you bring the Tencent factor into the equation.
They tried to tell me to burn my pants yesterday because they were made in china. Very strange cope.
The fact that you have been engaging in this hamster wheel of a duscussionfor more than a day is concerning.
The bros been here for weeks die harding for todd and starslop lol he was on vacation posting from his phone seething at people saying the game sucks calling them lairan shills (fucking ridiculous when he's simping for a MICROSOFT game lol)
Why is it concerning? Concern trolling like you are doesn't have an effect here.
I get to add
>defending Tencent
to the list of things Starfield has made Ganker do, along with defending Star Citizen and No Man's Sky.
Yeah that shit cracks me up. There's plenty to criticise in Starfield without having to resort to review score gayry, player numbers and pathetic mental gymnastics.
tencent is based
your game sucks
you forget to add where /v fags defend a chud giving Starfield a 4/10, that's how trash this shithole got in the last few years
>if a chud does something correct we must do the opposite
while the same chud gave Zelda a 7/10, Frspoken a 5/10 and Prey a 5/10, now kys
Alright? I don’t care. Starfield is a below average Bethesda game which are by themselves mediocre.
It's starting to make me hate NMS, a game I used to love. Just because it's being wrongly used as a measuring stick for this game. Both games are doing different things.
do you know how percentages work?
you know them owning 30% of a private company that the CEO owns the rest of means they have exactly no say in the company, right/
>he thinks larian gets any say when the CCP is involed
unbelievably naive
this is a truly retarded post. please leave and never come back. you're not even a troll, just legitimately stupid.
Keep posting this. Makes these morons mad as fuck.
>maybe if I spam this enough times, it'll change peoples opinion on the game.
Lmao.
like the same posts showing the ugly npcs? indeed
Interesting to see you agree that the NPCs are indeed, ugly.
Didn't know the focus of the game are NPCs.
Dismissive reply.
Also not that private since 30% belongs to China.
>30% belongs to China
and the rest to swen and his wife you retarded gay
Not true, they own 30% in a holding company
How is a "player" defined?
>Play game for 5 minutes
>Delete it
Congratulations! You're now considered a player!
Imagine seething this hard
>he thinks a corporation with a vested interest in making their product seem like a huge success doesn't spin the numbers to make it look that way, especially when they're unverifiable
fucking retard
Yeah just like how all those bg3 players are tencent bots lol meds
you're an absolute buffoon who needs to step outside and breathe for five minutes without doing anything else.
How's the smog in beijing
I couldn't give a rat's ass slut that shithole. tankman was killed off camera after tiananmen square on June fourth. now fuck off and don't come back.
>seething
how is answering a question is considered seething?
everyone who launched the game launcher
so people who refunded it and got in on game pass
btw, bg3 still sold much more, at least 15mil.
>bg3 still sold much more, at least 15mil.
haha kek. no dude. not really:D
did they count everyone on a free goypass trial as "purchases"?
Yes, because they stopped free trials just before starfield came out
It's not out on all platforms. They're have to dunk on you three times.
Fallout 4 did twice better
>players
>not sales
starfield will be remembered as one of Bethesda's worst games in a few years.
>the 6 gorillion
Why tf is it always six million with these people? Is it a sacred number in the Talmud or something? Perhaps a 4chanfag could enlighten me
>these people
anglos?
The 666 is a sacred number indeed goyim!
And you wonder why they don't add PS sales, 2k sales in the PS5 version, now Imagine the real number on steam, looks like the self proclaimed GOTY was a lie after all.
looking at the steam achievements now, nearly 15% of people who bought bg3 never even completed the opening sequence where you escape the nautilus ship, and going further down the list it looks like ~60% of people didn't even make it past act 1.
of course they wouldnt.
most bought it because of the hype. after they saw the combat and how atrocious ist they got bored.
You realize if it's retaining nearly half a million peak players more than a month after release, but 60% of people never beat act 1, that means it sold many millions of copies right?
swen confirmed that the game sold about 2.5 million copies, most of which were in the 4 year early access period. the game's peak after 4 years of sales culminating in a final "official" release was less than 1 million players. i can't help but wonder if they actually turned a profit on the game given how much time and money they sunk into it. then again they did have that tencent shill slave army to market it so they saved a ton there.
No you absolute fucking retardmongoloid
It sold 2.5M IN EARLY ACCES
then why we don't see any sales data 1 month and a week later ? every developers love to brag about sales, from Software, Rockstar, EA, Nintendo, Sony, Xbox, etc.
>every developers love to brag about sales, from Software, Rockstar, EA, Nintendo, Sony, Xbox, etc.
Publicly-traded companies do that as a signal to investors. FromSoft never bragged about Elden Ring's sales, Bamco did.
Larian is privately owned and self-published. It doesn't need to post its sales.
damn
source?
and probably a quarter of that after launch because everyone who wanted to buy it already did, and the gay bear sex stunt only drew in a handful of degenerate gays like you.
So you believe most of the players I this past month have been early access players who were just waiting for the official release to play? That it barely sold any new copies despite topping the steam charts for a month straight and having more hype and positive word of mouth than any game this year? That’s such sad cope anon. If you want to talk about a game that got very few new players between early access and launch, look at Starfield. The player count only went up by a few thousand this week compared to last weekend.
>newgays don't know that modded games or playing offline disables cheevos.
I guess if you're going to go by that metric then less than 40% of players beat Elden Ring?
I was expecting more people finishing the game at least 1 time.
>psn profiles
>a third-party website that requires users to add manually add their profile in order to be part of its statistics
holy copium
>6 million sales
>Literally 5.5 million gamepass people who downloaded the game and played it once
Wow so much sales...
>I could've just played for 15 minutes and never touch the game again and still be counted among those 6 millions. This id the point of service like gamepass. Bloat nunbers .
>6 million
that's how you know the number is fake
Considering game pass literally gives this away to players on Xbox for free it's remarkable the PC version obtained such numbers. Quite impressive if you think about it.
The ''6 million'' is counting Steam and Game pass as a whole.
I'm talking about the 300k on steam you vile little runt.
>I'm disingenuously cherry picking this minority piece of the market pie
have a nice day lariancent shill
If you even click on the game in gamepass it counts as having 'engaged' with the game and you get included in the total number of players, even if you don't have it installed.
Sure, but how lucrative does it make it for them?
Game pass isn’t free. Guarantee you Starfield is raping Baldurs Gate if you include Game Pass numbers. So we’re just pretending Game Pass just doesn’t count because….? Yeah; go fuck your self.
At $1 it might as well be free
It's $10
might as well be free
and if you include the 599 million players on GOG for BG3, starfield is literally mogged to hell and back
Gamepass is basically free. If you can't afford it or it stresses your finances then you do not belong in the gaming hobby.
>less than half the peak of an indie CRPG
>impressive for what was an $8b acquisition and supposed to be Game of the Decade
Give it up bot, your brain is fried
>this AA game reception is exactly what I need for my AAA game!
BGS has a smaller team size than larian
so I'm not a fantasy gay especially not a highfantasy gay old-school RPG gay lover, should I give Boulder Gate a try? Is it worth it even if I don't like anime?
High Fantasy is cool, Baldurs gay is not that. Forgotten realms is normalfag sex addict marvel tier quip fantasy.
You don't know what high fantasy means.
What's the point of threads like this?
300k concurrent players doesn't mean "only 300k people bought the game"
they made their money back tenfold and the game will keep Bethesda funded for the next 50 years
This isn't the tortanic you think it is.
These threads don't feel very organic, are spambots taking over?
It's discord trannies spamming Ganker and retards trying to fit in going along with them
>300k concurrent players doesn't mean "only 300k people bought the game"
The point is that, on Steam, more people are playing a month-old CRPG than the more recent Bethesda game.
That's all it means, and shows that BG3 is more popular on PC than Starfield.
PC gamepass exists
What are you even coping about?
There are genuinely 15-20 million people playing Starfield on Gamepass right now
fucking retard
wowww good fucking job showing this again retard we really care so much about numbers , numbers are all that matter clearly and even besides that starfield is on other platforms so the numbers cant show, good job retard showing this again yes yes cool we see that starfield has less players on steam you really got us fucking mutt
Gamepass
>coomer game with farts and horny demons keeps player more addicted than a wholesome western rpg
it's not all about numbers
It is for numberbrained retards
HAHA YOUR MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ONLY MADE BAZILLION DOLLARS
MY MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY MADE KAZILLION DOLLARS HAA HAA MY COMPANY IS BETTER THAN YOURS
LAALAAALAAALAAA
>Starfield
>wholesome western rpg
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8
I don't know how he did it but I ducking love this game
>already past 300k
starfield really is going outsell everything.
20 MILLION COPY SOLD
6 MILLION PALYERS AT THE SAME TIME
ALL BAD REVIEWS CAME FROM PEOPLE WHO PLAYED LESS THAN AN HOUR
Leave this here
Those are actually pics of his dad, he would visit him because he was dying but someone stole his pics.
Any neutral third party data collecting source for these claims or is it all corporate speak?
>muh steamcharts
I think Starfield sucks too but fuck off with this shit
The larian discord does not like people addressing the inflated bot numbers for BG3 because of the 30% stake Tencent has and how they do this to everything. Your thread is probably going to be highly combative.
>bethesda BTFO by a literal who
Fallout 4 peaked at 472k players on steam against 2 consoles and Bethesda launcher, since then steam tripled in size.
In 2023, Starfield can't even beat fallout 4 against ONE dead console (20 million units, steam wipes the floor with it several times) and ONE dead store.
>But gamepass 6 million players
1.)Forza Horizon 5 had 10 million players in 2021 and gamepass numbers grew since then
2.)Steam is probably making up 1-2 million of those players. Let's be generous and give 1 million xbox+Microsoft store.
3.)Even a well known flop, Hi-Fi Rush, managed to clear 2 million players thanks to gamepass
4.)Most importantly, steamfags are extremely loyal to their online drm store, which is why claiming they went to Microsoft store is fucking laughable.
5.) In total, the gamepass deal drew 3-4 mil players. But what is "player"? A person clicked on the play button once.
Bonus:
>but one million concurrent players bearchuds btfo!
Baldur's Gate also came out on gog, and gog numbers are unknown.
>New World 913,027
BG3 isn't as good as New World?
The bethesdrones are coping harder than ever before lmao
How is Starfield as successful as people say it is? It has like no cultural impact whatsoever and I don't know a single person personally who is playing it. Every single person I knew played Skyrim when it was out.
>How is Starfield as successful as people say it is
It isn't. They're lying. It's called marketing.
On my Steam friendlist only 4 other people have played the game, 2 of them for 70+ hours, 1 for 10 hours, the other for 22 hours (and that guy is now playing No Man's Sky) KEK
SAAAAAAARSS BUY STARFIELD SAAAAAAR
People throw around the 6 million figure as if they are garden gnomes or something. Its nothing special, most of these millions are from people who have gamepass. I would wager less than half actually bought the game.
Hahahaha yes! Keep it up discord sisters. These dumb Todd Howard fanboys are getting BTFO!!!
How do I delete post??
BG3 is winning because it got a plus 4 to dicerolls by Shadowcute!
I killed that bitch, her corpse lies forever in the Shadowfell. On the plus side, the camp companions don't even register her death, they talk as if she's still alive, KEK
By the way Microsoft is in full damage mode right now. The amount of shill videos from ''influencers'' is doubling.
>Ganker tries to pitch this as a tiny game studio sinking on an enormous titan
>BGS Maryland has just over 100 developers while larian has over 500
>BGS Maryland has just over 100 developers
Cheap bastards
BGS is basically an indie studio when you consider team size
They have a ton of support studios. A lot of people worked on Starfield, they were just in India.
>more artists and engineers want to work with Larian to create actual masterpieces
Please, you don't have to make him cooler than he already is.
why did he get away with more lies than todd?
is it because he frontloaded his game to appease retarded journos?
Yes, whereas Retodded Howard put the absolute worst first impression he could muster in his game, making you a miner working for a femoid chink and then get sent by a moron to go visit New San Francisco full of Fifth Element tier xenoboons and xenoboriginals.
>advertise 17000 endings
>only put 2 in the game
simply devious
one is a masterpiece, the other is developed by worn out hacks. can you guess which is which?
The game that showed me Mars with radiation cycles is the masterpiece. Not the chud dick sex one.
>l-larian has more employees if you do some gnomish trickery with the numbers!!! todd won!!!
This is getting embarrassing.
this is cope, larian is a 5x larger studio and they couldn't even manage to finish their game
>couldn't even manage to finish their game
Kek
>spend most of the game talking to and romancing Shadowheart
>she doesn't even show up in the ending
Bravo Larian
17000 endings btw
Apparently the way they came to that conclusion was based on small variables at the code level, where I saw someone point out that if you used the same criteria to judge New Vegas then New Vegas technically has over 1,000,000,000,000 endings.
>can't get to 500k anymore
>it's only on Steam
Oof...
SISTERS NOOOO NOT LIKE THIS! HOW COULD A GAME MADE FOR THE PC FIRST BE BETTER THAN ONE MADE FOR A 5 YEAR OLD CONSOLE?! IT LITERALLY MAKES NO HECKIN SENSE!
>accidental
how do you accidentally download and play a game?
These games aren't even in the same genre. Why are the constantly being compared?
Both are rpgs where you talk for half of the game. Starfield is still a lot more comparable to BG3 than an ARPG like Elden Ring where 90% of the game is combat.
Imagine, We got Ballers Gate early because they thought Shartfield would hurt their launch with its glowing success
And because of it starfield got sharted upon even harder than it deserves and BG3 got an absolutely shit 3rd act and ending
Both are woke so I'll pass. I'm not giving money to bad people.
It's uh entertainment not a political manifesto
Should've kept their politics out of it then
Go be triggered on pol
What?
>we won because the game is being given away for free on consoles
Why are starfags like this?
Starfags can enjoy other games for the price they paid for Starfield, while BG3 trannies have pretty much married their game.
BG3 is pump and done with no ounce of replayability.
Starfield will stay with you for an entire generation.
>Starfield will stay with you for an entire generation.
Mate if the creation kit doesn't come out soon Starfield isn't going to stay with me until the end of the month.
>no timestamp
/trash/ is unironically less trashy than Ganker
ummm chudbros? what happened to go woke get broke? fuck... did we lose again? I just searched up the stock price for gilette and they're doing better than ever wtf... I miss trump guys... we used to be winners...
Starfield gameplay is waiting through half a dozen loading screens so you can talk to some space mutts.
both are shit and infested with morona
but one is a new ip and the other is the sequel to the most beloved crpg ip on the planet
Both are good games. Bald Gay 3 is just 10 points better.
Starfield on top so it won! Checkmate bg3 trannies!
OH NONONONO STARFIELD BROS HOW CAN THIS KEEP HAPPENING