>commander shepard log: >Searched "big space robots" >Searched "reapers" >Searched "reapers big space robots" >Searched "how to explain that the big space robots we all clearly saw attack the citadel are real" >Searched "council email addresses" >Searched "stores on citadel" >Searched "stores on citadel -shepard"
>Searched "anti batarian build" >Searched "best class against batarians" >Searched "which weapon is the best against batarians" >Searched "thermal clips buy"
>Searched "anti batarian build" >Searched "best class against batarians" >Searched "which weapon is the best against batarians" >Searched "thermal clips buy"
>"EDI, please check my email for my equipment custom orders, anything arrived yet?" >"Commander, I advise you to stop contemplating and talking about your Batarian killing optimizations while you're in the Presidium or otherwise in public places of similar import." >"What about suboptimal Batarian killing?"
>Tali will always have a crush on Shepard no matter who he chooses to romance.
This is why I am incapable of romancing anyone else. I can't hurt my girl like that. The one time I tried to romance Miranda, when I rejected Tali her response bothered me so much that I reloaded a save so I could switch to her romance.
>Male Shep as a dweeby, flat, uber-Canadian voice >FemShep shows more range of emotion because she's an actual VA and not some sign spinner standing outside the Bioware offices or wherever they got Meer from >FemShep romances with Tali and Jack were cut/dummied out so I have to listen to ManShep's shit voicework if I wat to frick either of them
Male Shep is only bad in Mass Effect 1, stop pushing this meme of male VAs are le bad to justify playing as a woman. I see this cope all the time with any game that has a voiced male/female option.
I've played through all three games as both and Meer is bad the whole way through. He "improves" from sub-Youtube VA levels to Youtube VA levels but he's still never anythign approaching acceptable, especially as the badass space hero. He's fine as hanar where his shit voice and inability to emote fits but not as the hero. Sbarge and Meer would've been better swapping roles.
Hale's worst performance is the Jacob writing and that's due largely to the horrendous writing. It sounds like she's almost taking the piss out of it with her hamminess during conversations with him.
Uh huh, sure anon. Go back to making threads about how you only play as women because you don't want to see man ass, ignoring the fact you only keep looking at it because you're a homosexual.
Literally the only reason I play FemShap over ManShep is the better VA. Don't have this problem in Fallout games pre-4 since, thankfully, the MC doesn't actually have a voice so I'm not forced to listen to a shitty one deliver all the dialogue. If Meer was a better VA I'd pick ManShep more often.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm also trans btw, but that has NOTHING to do with it. I just don't like the voice actor!
1 year ago
Anonymous
Glad you came out but it doesn't change the fact Meer is a terrible voice actor.
Wrong. Meer is only really bad only throughout the minor stuff in ME1. In the main stuff and in Bring Down The Sky he's okay. He improves in ME2 and ME3 quite a bit without ever going overboard like she does, she sounds like an actress very obviously performing takes in a VA studio instead of a soldier looking at the world down the barrel of a gun. Like go compare maleShep vs femShep at Thane's "funeral", he blows her out of the water.
>femshepgays STILL haven't gotten over it
kek
anyway your meme about maleshep being flat doesn't work because he was only flat in game 1, and it was later explained as deliberate because the devs wanted shepard to feel like a blank slate easy to self insert into
in 2 and 3 he matches hale, arguably outpaces her in 3
Sheploo's autism is honestly endearing. The VA has little range, but it unintentionally characterizes Shephard as this solder-type weirdo bro who only drops the act when he can't keep it up anymore, or when he's with his crew.
I also have a personal preference for Jack.
But it's close.
And they are both at their best, when they interact off each other.
It's shit that writes itself.
If you're a writer, this is a dream to nail down, between your female characters.
And what did Bioware do? Retire them both, and has not produced a single pair that has the same chemistry, since.
Nor ever will.
Still mad.
Think how much it slogs for you, until you get Tali.
Think your romance not even being in the game.
Tell me it's just the last hour.
Nothing carries this game.
All of my favourite characters are absent.
I have no investment and no interest in this game.
1 year ago
Anonymous
"Fine" is a good way of putting it. It's pretty uneven but there are enough actually great moments + fun combat to carry it through. Until the lame ass final mission and mediocre post-DLC ending.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>"Fine" is a good way of putting it
No. It's ridiculously mediocre and painful, with worse the worst encounter and level design in the trilogy. It has some good fights, that are heavily front loaded, and the more you progress into the game, the more grating they become, with the side-quests being mere afterthoughts and absolutely abysmal to get through. Stomaching the terrible, pedestrian writing, the last minute characters that Bioware begs you to "please love them", because they had no time to implement the good one is just making my eyes and ears bleed, having to suffer them. Including Vega, including Cortez, including Traynor, including Allers. Characters that have no business being introduced in the third part of a trilogy.
It's a slog. It's a painful, dreary, unfun slog.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But enough about Mass Effect 2
1 year ago
Anonymous
But does he have Cerberus Leader as a stat? Ha!
Nothing a high explosive sniper with a rail can't fix, anyway...
1 year ago
Anonymous
>implying
Anon, please explain why the humans held off the Reapers for far longer then the Asari and Turian homeworld despite being hit before them and having weaker military might.
It was shit from the get go.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Humans are the least compromised species.
All the others were upgraded by Protheans, who were themselves being corrupted.
Humans ostensibly got off well, getting only Prothean archives and an observation post.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>held off
Anon, Earth is full on Terminator future while Shepard is away banging aliens. I wouldn't say they "held them off"
But Quarians can't get pregnant with human babies.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Shepard (and Cerberus R&D division) will find a way.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why not. They defeated death before. At this point they could fly around in space with no suit like Leia with the bullshit that ME2 pulled
1 year ago
Anonymous
With science anything can happen
1 year ago
Anonymous
>betray your species
That's pretty much making a new species, all things considered, which puts one at odds with both.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Imagine all the shit a human-quarian hybrid would have to go through. Superior immune system but can't make out with quarian gf or she could die. Can only eat turian/quarian "food" while also having cravings for human food.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Both are fixable.
Various complaints from ruling elites about playing with life, breaking laws on genetics and running ethically questionable experiments, less so.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Probably because there's a pretty big difference between Reapers beating a planet's fleet, and Reapers eradicating all the billions of humans who went underground to hide in the planet's crust and started guerilla tactics? Dumbass.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>crust
Hey, wanna know what do you get when a bunch of sapients get into a planetary crust and get nicely cooked by a relativistic stream of molten metal?
A crust-acean.
🙂
I'd post Carlos, but no images, so just imagine him.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh, you!
In my one and only Mass Effect 2 playthrough, only Miranda died during the suicide mission and it was all according to plan. I didn't like her one bit.
>only Miranda died during the suicide mission
Unironically how did you pull it off with just her dying? It's pretty hard to kill her. Was she in your squad for the final part?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I hung out with every other crew member, did everything with them, and distinctly remember how you're rewarded with their power after doing everything with them. I remember liking the black guy's power the most since it gave you massive shielding.
I only interacted with Miranda a few times. I think that's how it happened. I think she looks ugly and didn't like how she carried herself as being the hottest chick in the galaxy. I just didn't even want to see her face.
During the final mission, everybody was there and they did their part, but Miranda died.
No, the Quarians are irredeemably stupid and deserve genocide. The only mistake the Geth made, was they didn't go far enough. Rannoch is the second-worst part of the game.
I just started ME2, how do I keep everyone alive? Is it just doing their loyalty missions?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Make the ship upgrades.
All of them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Don't get the reaper IFF until the rest of the map is cleared/don't forget to actually get the crew upgrades for ship.
>Loyalty mission >ship upgrades >pick the right role for them
Listen to Jacob and Miranda when it comes to the Suicide Mission. Jacob volunteered to go into the vents and Miranda is confident in her biotic abilities. Just trust them, bro.
By ship upgrades you mean like upgrading the lab for Mordin? Thats the only one I've gotten so far. And by map do you mean scanning planets and bringing their completion to 100%? This is going to sound dumb but I will literally feel bad as a person if one of them die. Choosing between Ashley and Kaiden in ME1 was my own personal Sophie's Choice
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're a sensitive soul, anon.
The upgrades come out later.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>By ship upgrades you mean like upgrading the lab for Mordin?
There are ship upgrades you can research and others you can buy from vendors. Do all of them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You'd have to be incredibly stupid to let any of them die. Just do the ship upgrades and all of their loyalty missions, it couldn't be more obvious which of them you're supposed to pick for which role during the end.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Don't get the reaper IFF until the rest of the map is cleared/don't forget to actually get the crew upgrades for ship.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Loyalty mission >ship upgrades >pick the right role for them
1 year ago
Anonymous
Listen to Jacob and Miranda when it comes to the Suicide Mission. Jacob volunteered to go into the vents and Miranda is confident in her biotic abilities. Just trust them, bro.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No. You have biotic and engineer specialists for those tasks.
But Jacob should absolutely lead the Fire Team.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's really fricking easy. >do all the missions >do all the companion quests >buy all the ship upgrades >assign companions to the tasks they're most suited for
It's designed so that even a little kid can keep everyone alive without a guide.
>Morinth just disappears with a post it note >Morinth becomes a random enemy at the end game >Morinth doesn't even show up in the reunion dlc 'fix'
Frick Bioware.
So I never played the original ME2, only ME1 but I'm working my way through and got to ME2 in the Legendary edition and I really can't get why people like her so much? Im still early on, recruiting the initial Cerberus team but I don't see whats so likable about her
I watched "I, Frankenstein" with Aaron Eckhart, just for Yvonne. The film is shit, but Yvonne acts the frick out of her role. It's like they plucked her performance out from a better movie and put her there.
>I just want more Chuck.
There was a point where I wanted Chuck and Sarah to play Captain Marvel (Shazam) and Captain Marvel. And then we could have a crossover and more chuck and a chuck movie and Morgan was always right about chucks personal life so the kiss totally worked. But after Levi said some antivax shit on twitter he not get a lot of work because of drama shit making him less marketable.
>is a squad mate in all three games (Miranda is only a squad mate in ME2 and barely exist in ME3) >almost every Mass Effect thread on Ganker starts with Taligay posting or Batarians dying >Miranda is a boring ugly white human women in a sci-fi game
You trying to push this bullshit is actually starting to get weird at this point. You can like Miranda all you want, just don't pretend that most fans didn't give a shit about her.
>Bioware's ME2LE infomatic clearly states otherwise >No, I don't believe it.
Whatever you want, anon. I don't fricking care.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ganker is firmly entrenched in Tali country, and no other website matters when it comes to taste, so no, you're the one who is wrong.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Believe whatever the frick you want, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>believe
*know
1 year ago
Anonymous
That is an irrelevant statistic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That is an irrelevant statistic.
I don't have a dog in this race but Tali was ranked 11th in surviving the suicide mission and Miranda was 4th. Do with that information what you will.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon, Farquad doesn't care.
He doesn't even understand that you shouldn't care about how popular your waifu is.
Mine is Jack and is the least popular in the entire franchise. Even Kelly had a better percentage.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>is the least popular in the entire franchise
yeah because she's an ugly dyke
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fantastic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
based
1 year ago
Anonymous
>yeah because she's an ugly dyke
Miranda
>I'm so glad that ME is one of the only franchises where everyone respects each other's waifu choices.
[...]
Well. Almost everyone.
shaved heads are not attractive on women. maybe if her breasts were bigger and she had more hair.
The only way you can be hot without hair as a women is if you're an alien with big breasts and a cool skin color like blue or green, but asari headthings look close enough to hair anyway
1 year ago
Anonymous
>shaved heads are not attractive on women
Spoken like a man who never used a buzzcut woman's head in his hand, while using her throat as a wienersleeve.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Also, short hair are the ultimate beauty test. If your waifu looks good with short hair, she's trully gorgeous.
1 year ago
Anonymous
And yeah, nobody saw Jack in her trailer, or even in game and thought this is the woman of my dreams. I like short hair on women, and even I thought Jack's would be too much.
I was wrong.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Gotta love how the devs wanted the reveal that Jack is a girl be a shock which is why nothing from the intro to the Codex to the prison inmates show her image or refer to her as 'she'... then the marketing trailer spoils it anyway
1 year ago
Anonymous
Admittedly no i have not done that
I'm not gonna ask my girlfriend to shave her head to find out though
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'm not gonna ask my girlfriend to shave her head to find out though
Shaving your hand is pretty easy and innocuous, though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Its hot to cum on their bald head
1 year ago
Anonymous
A fellow man of refined tastes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Jack has beautiful face and elegant figure.
Miranda has disgusting face and bimbo figure.
That's all I care about.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Miranda has big fricking breasts, she wins by default in that contest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're young and fool, boy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I FRICKING LOVE BIG FAT TIDDIES ON WOMEN AND I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT I DON'T
IF THERE ISN'T AT LEAST A SLIGHT RISK OF ME SUFFOCATING IN THEM FROM A HUG I'M NOT INTERESTED
1 year ago
Anonymous
>yeah because she's an ugly dyke
Miranda
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Mine is Jack
impeccable taste
1 year ago
Anonymous
>no Jacqueline with full, long sex hair
1 year ago
Anonymous
The three least likely to survive are the first ones to go if you don't pick the right people for the final fight
Either Jack or Liara. Absolutely no other romance is consistent or worth pursuing in this series because the cast constantly keeps changing game for game.
What the hell are you going to do? Get friend zoned by Samara just to kiss her once in the Citadel DLC in ME3?
Playing the serie for the first time and I'm towards the end of ME3 (doing the Citadel DLC before the final attack on Cerberus base). Great series so far even if I don't like a few things with ME3 and hated Mass Gears of War 2 combat.
I know the ending is bad and it has something to do with colours but I hope it's not as bad as you anons make it sound to be.
It just boils everything down to three palette swaped ending and negates every choice you made up to that point. You could have skipped to the ending and not play the trilogy at all, and you'd still get the same three endings. It takes nothing in consideration.
If you're not particularly invested in the franchise, haven't had the particular anticipation and don't really care about the end of it, you'll be fine.
But nobody escapes the post-ending depression.
I literally just beat it myself and the ending is *fine* with the additions they made. I think the problem is that nothing you do leading up really affects anything and even your choice at the end barely makes a difference. You should look up the original ending though and see what additions were made. I thought the ending was abrupt but it is super abrupt before they added onto it.
I'm used to shit endings so it was whatever to me, I enjoyed playing the games so even if the ending was disastrous it didn't ruin it for me like it did for others
ME3 and its ending is hated that much because people were waiting years to see resolution to all their decisions while speculating about best case scenarios. Back in those days we still believed that Bioware can pull it off and the whole "your decisions actually matter" thing was still taken seriously. When you play all three games back to back with no context of those years but knowing not to expect anything from Bioware it doesn't hit that hard and that's a good thing.
It's not. Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings, and I bet most that play the games today and do are simply thinking about it harder than they'd normally do if they didn't know the endings have had a decade of controversies. Leviathan and Extended Cut both help immensely.
The real, often unspoken reason why the endings stang so much for people that played the game in 2012 was because they had to wait between games. That's really it. Nowadays you finish 2 and jump straight to 3, no thinking in-between; back then you had the biggest fans talking in forums daily for years between releases, coming up with theories on how the endings would totally keep all this different shit in mind and how it'll be the Suicide Mission 4.0 and how the devs totally thought the story through and they came up with an explanation for the robot squids back in ME1, and they totally weren't just winging it with each game because they had no fricking clue about what they were doing.
Without the pre-release hype, without the in-between games theory crafting, and with the complete package with DLCs, for the type of games Shepard's trilogy are as a whole (not what they *could've* been, not what ME1 teased future games could feel like both mechanically and narratively, which is its own can of worms), the endings are honestly not that bad. Really, there's far worse endings in tons of vidya, but the 2012 stigma will never disappear.
>Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings
I mean I experienced the entire trilogy for the first time back in the day and I had plenty reason to complain about the endings. Both the original ending and BioWare's half-assed trash they threw in after they got called out the first time. And sadly their tactic of half-assing it worked since it divided the community just enough to dissolve any unified front against them which could have motivated them to actually fix it.
I mean, there is a reason why to this day mods that change or remove the ending are as popular as they are. Or that a game as deliberately unmoddable as Mass Effect 3 has mods at all, and that most of them focused on fixing the ending.
I went through great effort to get her killed off because she was a b***h and also ugly, and frick the whole idea of cerberus, ruined the series' main story arc
Sounds like you should play Infiltrator at least in 2/3. Tech allows you to bring whatever squad combination you feel like in 1 without fear of not being able to decrypt open loot. Sentinel is OP in 2 specifically.
Infiltrator is fun and tech classes have shit like electronics and decryption so it frees a party slot for members without any of those at all. In 2 and 3 Infiltrators get tactical stealth so you can reposition as much as you want, sometimes it can spice up the gameplay.
Basically Gears with a bit more variety. 3 had the best gameplay of the trilogy but the multiplayer was the only place the true potential of the series really opened up
You mean what he does in this scene if he survives Virmire or what he does the rest of the game if he survives this scene? In any case Kaidan never wishes the Reapers to win even if you treat him like shit pre-Citadel coup
There's always a future playthrough. Both Ash and Kaidan get a bad rep for not being donutseel special aliens in 1 and Ash' writer in 3 didn't know what the frick to do with her so it's overall better to have her die a hero in Virmire then have Kaidan as a bro in 3. Plus he has more dialogue and is better mechanically (also he geats Reave). Just make sure to have a romance locked-in before talking to him post-coup and he won't be ruined.
She's barely used in 2 as is. Think about it, you help her with her detective sidequest regarding Morinth but what else does she do after that? You never really feel like she's this millenia old Jedi master, Jack can do the bubble thing just as easy
Within reason of course.
But there are many empty moons and planets with an occasional bunker with a few sapients and some omni or medi gel.
🙂
I miss Mako.
I romance Ash every time. I have played the ME Trilogy a million times and she is Shepard's one true romance so we can create strong human babies to dominate the weakened alien races post-reaper invasion.
Someone really likes Miranda? She fricking ugly. Like she really ugly, looks like a goblin, a monster, a bad bimbo prostitute.
She had sex with a Black person. She had sex with men unknown to her to check if she could get pregnant. She walks like a cheap bawd. Representative of Azari, the race of the prostitute, literally say that Miranda looks like a prostitute.
I hope all this thread is trolling, because Miranda is really ugly and disgusting. She is similar to the woke sjw character that feminists created.
>I don't recall the games ever stating
You should pay more attention my man. They explicitly state that in the game. From both Jacob and Miranda. Kasumi also has the hots for Jacob and Liara watches him work out with no shirt on.
>Miranda saw Jacob's micro-penis >I'm sorry Jacob, this isn't going to work out >Already seen Shepard's mega-wiener, which is the sieze of a maul and has rumours that he's submited Krogan through beating them with it >Gets heartbroken and dies if ME3 Shepard denies her the dick
I ignored Tali during my trilogy playthrough.
And then at the very fricking end of it all on the final DLC before the last mission I saw Garrus hitting on Tali and realized I made a terrible mistake.
I restarted the entire trilogy just to romance Tali.
I don't know. She wasn't in something as good as the X-Files. She was in Chuck, which was campy, she was in Dexter, when the series' writers had already jumped the shark and a one season appearance in 24. The thing is that she is a legit good actress, absolutely gorgeous, never talks shit to the fans, even as her character in Dexter was HEAVILY criticized, and keeps giving performances of the material given to her, far above the level of its writing. Which is why Miranda works so well.
>The Chuck director that was a massive footgay >Didn't care at the time but even then I knew someone must have had a thing for her feet. >Going back now
Muy Bueno.
How is there not a decent blonde mod for Miranda by now what the frick is the point of you modding community?
What an absolute angel.
>The Chuck director that was a massive footgay >Didn't care at the time but even then I knew someone must have had a thing for her feet. >Going back now
Muy Bueno.
I miss her.
I watched "I, Frankenstein" with Aaron Eckhart, just for Yvonne. The film is shit, but Yvonne acts the frick out of her role. It's like they plucked her performance out from a better movie and put her there.
>knows someone on Discord who roleplays as her as a vicious dominatrix type
>loyal
It's still hilarious to me that Jacob cucks femshep. It makes him the only romance that actually stood out to me since something interesting actually happens.
It doesn't even look armored. Also they could have just had her have a different outfit for the normandy, like they do other characters. You don't see beefcake for instance running into battle in the t shirt he's wearing on the ship, but actual armor.
I think that people saw Liara and the N7 and expected that Shepard and the crew would be back. I don't believe Bioware will bring them back. Even if they do bring them back, it's over. It has been over since they made ME3. There is nothing they can do to bring the franchise back. They can use Shepard and the crew to sell some extra copies. That's as far as I can see it going.
Yeah no way Shepard is going to be the main character, anyone who thinks that is a brainlet. I'm more curious how they're going to make the three different endings not matter at all, assuming they don't just pick a canon ending (which honestly they'd likely be better off doing)
I wouldn't be so sure. Dragon Age let you make some pretty big or drastic changes to shit in the setting and then they don't matter. I wouldn't put it past Bioware to try and justify when the plot still has to happen when AI Shepard or whatever controls all the reapers.
Pick the destroy ending, reference the reapers in the first 5 minutes and have everyone go "oh yeah, that happened" and then never mention it ever again. Never bring back any characters at all and scale down the story to focus more on smaller scale conflicts.
I wouldn't be so sure. Dragon Age let you make some pretty big or drastic changes to shit in the setting and then they don't matter. I wouldn't put it past Bioware to try and justify when the plot still has to happen when AI Shepard or whatever controls all the reapers.
Nothing else is going to make sense because they don't have any good writers who can pull off anything but destroy
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Pick the destroy ending, reference the reapers in the first 5 minutes and have everyone go "oh yeah, that happened" and then never mention it ever again. Never bring back any characters at all and scale down the story to focus more on smaller scale conflicts.
This game will be releasing, I wager, around 2030. For it being 18 years since ...
Jesus fricking Christ, I really hope they axe it.
For it being 18 years since the last time the franchise was relevant, this game will sell 5 copies.
I understand how you mean it, but this will likely have a budget in the neighborhood of ~$350 million. If costs haven't ballooned further, by then. How do you even sell this game enough to break even?
Pic related.
Liara will be back as a mentor figure because the only way to have her dead in the OT is reaching Earth with the lowest EMS possible then use her for the Conduit run. People that think Shepard and co. will be back are morons, BioWare won't deal with the myriad ramifications they should keep in mind if making Shepard the MC again. His battle is done, let him rest.
I don't think ME died with 3, especially not now after a decade and millions of people playing the trilogy for the first time without a decade of seething thanks to streamers and the LE. If anything Mass Effect as an IP it's in a better place than it's ever been since 2012: long enough removed from 3 and Andromeda and after the good will of the Legendary Edition for normies. The problem is that BioWare as a studio doesn't exist anymore, all the old guard are gone. Even ME3, if you read the interviews most of the blame falls on EA and the moronicly short dev time they forced on the team which made them have to play musical chairs with Javik and the Virmire Survivor and the ending and plenty other things because the game was made with about as much dev time as New Vegas but with the expectations of carrying over savefile transfer choices of two previous games (and let's be honest, after ME2 barely did anything with choices from 1).
TLDR Mass Effect goodwill is at an all-time high especially by normies but they'll frick it up anyways
>TLDR Mass Effect goodwill is at an all-time high especially by normies but they'll frick it up anyways
It sold around 2.5 million copies in a year. It basically sold the first week, and then it died. It was flavour of the month. It doesn't have the following you think it does. And Dragon Age has 1/3 of that.
Make it take place at most 50 years post-High EMS Destroy and leave the rebuilding of the galaxy as background sidequests and Codex entries. Have the main plot be low stakes, simple KOTOR/ME1-style pacing.
Same as above.
Bioware should really stop with the whole N7 shit in their marketing in Mass Effect. They pushed it in Andromeda before release to fool people into thinking Shepard's involved in some way and look how that game turned out. Now they're doing it again with ME4 into making people believe Shepard's coming back
I agree. This is going to backfire hard. They should have come out and said it, the moment the "speculation" about Shepard returning broke. Now it's too late. I expect when Bioware announces the new protagonist and crew, there will be a controversy for a week, people will forget about it, it will sell well for the first week and then it will die. That is my expectation.
Make it take place at most 50 years post-High EMS Destroy and leave the rebuilding of the galaxy as background sidequests and Codex entries. Have the main plot be low stakes, simple KOTOR/ME1-style pacing.
Liara will be back as a mentor figure because the only way to have her dead in the OT is reaching Earth with the lowest EMS possible then use her for the Conduit run. People that think Shepard and co. will be back are morons, BioWare won't deal with the myriad ramifications they should keep in mind if making Shepard the MC again. His battle is done, let him rest.
I don't think ME died with 3, especially not now after a decade and millions of people playing the trilogy for the first time without a decade of seething thanks to streamers and the LE. If anything Mass Effect as an IP it's in a better place than it's ever been since 2012: long enough removed from 3 and Andromeda and after the good will of the Legendary Edition for normies. The problem is that BioWare as a studio doesn't exist anymore, all the old guard are gone. Even ME3, if you read the interviews most of the blame falls on EA and the moronicly short dev time they forced on the team which made them have to play musical chairs with Javik and the Virmire Survivor and the ending and plenty other things because the game was made with about as much dev time as New Vegas but with the expectations of carrying over savefile transfer choices of two previous games (and let's be honest, after ME2 barely did anything with choices from 1).
TLDR Mass Effect goodwill is at an all-time high especially by normies but they'll frick it up anyways
>because the game was made with about as much dev time as New Vegas
New Vegas at least had a lot of assets ready to use from Fallout 3 and from what I've seen from the devs Bethesda was pretty fair with them and helped them out quite a bit. I doubt EA was that generous.
I know, yeah Ganker likes to meme on the Creation Engine but it's a highly maleable engine very easy to edit and play around with which is why TES/Fallout modding is as big as it is. There's interviews out there regarding Old World Blues and how they didn't have much time to make assets for it so part of the dev process was based around looking at F3, F3 DLC and FNV assets and figure out how to twist them, chop them and fake them up into new looks for Big MT. With Bethesda every aspect of the game from mechanics to level design to scripting is very simple to edit, even a moron can make it so a fire spell changes its dps from 10 to 15 in a couple clicks. The ability to fill every cell with objects all of which you can individually grab (what was the last 2000+23 game where every plate and bottle in a shelf was an item you could loot with its own weight and inventory model?) or give NPCs AI/schedule packages that tells them where to go, to sit, to drink, to sleep etc.
Going back to Mass Effect 3, it took one of the devs outright calling an EA rep to allow them to push the game back from March 2011 to March 2012. It's a miracle ME3 came out the way it did and not like DMC2 with what they had to crunch to get it done.
There is nothing wrong with Gamebryo. Bethesda and Obsidian both are just devs that are really bad with time management and feature creep so they forget to fix up the game until about 3 months before release and then have to start cutting things to make shit work. The biggest offender for Skyrim was the civil war questline.
1 year ago
Anonymous
How much got cut for the civil war?
1 year ago
Anonymous
bout 350 homies
1 year ago
Anonymous
Off the top of my head >Was more dynamic, you'd pick which hold to conquer next >You'd have to do more missions with each hold before you could take the city >More variety in said mission, stuff like raiding a town to kill legion soldier stationed there, sabotage resources like mines or mills, break a fellow imperial/stormcloak out of an enemies jail >Instead of just whiterun and solitude/windhelm having a siege, every hold would end in a siege battle >Enemy would attempt to retake holds, again you could actually lose those fights (and iirc outright lose the war) and you'd have to retreat and escape the city before it fell
If you want any more check out
https://tcrf.net/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim/Civil_War
I'm going to leave it at that to not detract from the thread since it's about a different game.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I can hear the PS3 imploding from here
1 year ago
Anonymous
I mean the ps3 is also why New Vegas strip had to be divided into 3 areas with piles of junk acting as loading barriers, it couldn't handle it as one long strip.
I will admit I'm curious about Starfield since Bethesda apparently overhauled Creation Engine quite a bit and of the people I know who played 76 said it fixed some issues that have lingered in their games for quite a while.
1 year ago
Anonymous
There was also the meme 11/11/11 deadline they had to work to.
>Bethesda was pretty fair with them and helped them out quite a bit
I believe there was something about some of Bethesda's devs coming over to teach Obsidian devs how to use Gamebryo, and the whe metacritic bonus was something Bethesda themselves put in the contract, it wasn't asked for. It's a big reason why New Vegas is better then 3, Obsidian had more time to focus on other shit since they didn't need to make basic assets for everything, and even some of that barely made it in like staged reloading which apparently was a nightmare to make work and nearly got cut prior to launch.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Bethesda is weird as frick. On one hand they helped Obsidian all they could, on the other they got so mad when Dead Money dared to add a bad ending that they forced Obsidian cut the bad ending for OWS. It's like a very helpful individual that also has a very specific case of autism.
Bioware should really stop with the whole N7 shit in their marketing in Mass Effect. They pushed it in Andromeda before release to fool people into thinking Shepard's involved in some way and look how that game turned out. Now they're doing it again with ME4 into making people believe Shepard's coming back
>They saw Legion and N7 once too, it went where?
Well, they really had no reference for a Geth wearing an N7. Nobody knew what it meant. But if you're going to put Liara next to the N7 insignia, you bet your ass people are going to think Shepard is back. They thought the same thing with Andromeda. Did you forget that?
I'm not saying the people are right. But people see what they want to see, and get upset when it turns out otherwise. Because it's not what they waited for. And for people that will be waiting until, possibly, 2030-31, to be told 6-9 months before release that we are going with a new protagonist, after 10 years of being left hanging on Shepard, this won't go down well. This is not a hard concept to grasp.
>I think that people saw Liara and the N7 and expected that Shepard and the crew would be back.
Only morons who can't into storytelling want Shepard back. It's like wanting Lord of the Rings 4 where Frodo joins a new fellowship to throw a new ring into a new volcano against a new dark lord. Those who can't understand what's wrong with this, they don't deserve to be called sentient.
>It's like wanting Lord of the Rings 4 where Frodo joins a new fellowship to throw a new ring into a new volcano against a new dark lord
Jokes on you, can be spun into a working story.
Quips and self-referential sarcasm optional.
I don't believe there's anything that can be made, post ME3. You don't follow up Lord of the Rings, with Lord of the Rings 2. It's done. It's over. The entire franchise is over. Nothing else can be done. There's nothing to do in the past, there's nothing to do in the future. It's over. You can't even remake it.
>I don't believe there's anything that can be made, post ME3. You don't follow up Lord of the Rings, with Lord of the Rings 2. It's done. It's over. The entire franchise is over. Nothing else can be done. There's nothing to do in the past, there's nothing to do in the future. It's over. You can't even remake it.
I never said the franchise cannot be ever touched again. That's not what I said. I said Shepard as a protagonist is a concept that should no longer be used, and people only want it for nostalgia points and they're blind to anything resembling actual narrative logic. Thought that was obvious.
I don't believe it. I don't believe there is anything this franchise has to offer, after ME3. You can only have worse received characters, less interesting lore and world building, less interesting stories, less interesting conflicts, all of the big issues of the setting have been resolved, there's nothing else to look forward to. You're not going to endear people with "oh shit, we fricked up and we reset everything to how things were at the start of ME1, so we can redo them again". And about everything else that might pop up, even if it were semi-competently executed, which it won't, who gives a shit? There's nothing left. Obviously you might care about Liara, and if the setting was called Liara Effect, that'd be fine, but it's not. So who the frick actually cares? Do people care enough to buy, at minimum, 7 million copies of this game, at launch, just to have it break even?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I don't believe there is anything this franchise has to offer
More smudboy videos?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Smud didn't even make a video on Mac Walters leaving Bioware, while being the third, or fourth, production lead that Dragon Age 4 loses. Even he's moved on. The entire company, and its franchises, are dead. Dragon Age should have already been out, and we should be talking about the next Mass Effect, right now, with tangible information. And we're talking the next game is 6-8 years away, still.
Nobody's going to care.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sounds to me like you've been wearing horse blinders since 2012
1 year ago
Anonymous
Make a counter argument. Give me something solid and tangible. Mike Gamble's big idea, so far, is merging the Milky Way with Andromeda. Are you excited for that? Do you want to see more Kett and Angara? Aren't you just dying from curiosity to find out what happened to the Jardaan? Who made the Scourge? I fricking don't. I couldn't give half a shit about any of that. What can you possible introduce that turns all that around, and who is going to wait until 2030 for it?
1 year ago
Anonymous
My counter argument is that you've posted the same thing in threads for months and you're somehow too ESL and butthurt from ME3 to understand people discuss the idea that ME as a universe is easy to save, not that the devs in charge of it are going to do it. You're obsessed with numbers and dates when they mean jackshit, it's as if you're the one looking forward to the next game the most out of everyone ITT
1 year ago
Anonymous
>My counter argument is that you've posted the same thing in threads for months
That's not a counterargument. This is the equivalent of making a choice in Mass Effect and the next game getting an email saying "you did X in the last game". Like, thanks. Yes, I noticed. I remember. I don't have Alzheimers. Thanks for the email, Bioware. Are we going to pretend like that email did something? Did you noticing it, somehow make the argument invalid? If I went around making threads how 2+2=4, would that make the result false, somehow? Then what the frick does the fact that you notice it have anything to do with it? You fricking paint chip eating mouthbreathing moron? Every fricking time you waste everyone's time with your inane bullshit. Speak and make it mean something. Frick.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I rest my case
1 year ago
Anonymous
You made no case, Farquad.
Go frick yourself.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why are you bringing up the Cyberscam gay autist outta nowhere. Actually nevermind I don't want to know, (You)
>I don't believe there's anything that can be made, post ME3. You don't follow up Lord of the Rings, with Lord of the Rings 2. It's done. It's over. The entire franchise is over. Nothing else can be done. There's nothing to do in the past, there's nothing to do in the future. It's over. You can't even remake it.
I never said the franchise cannot be ever touched again. That's not what I said. I said Shepard as a protagonist is a concept that should no longer be used, and people only want it for nostalgia points and they're blind to anything resembling actual narrative logic. Thought that was obvious.
> It's done. It's over.
I agree with this anon. Having a sequel would just feel wrong. And an extended universe would suck because either one of the endings become canon or they tip-toe around it and it would be stories upon stories of literally nothing happening. I understand the crave for more content but I don't want ME turning into an even more aimless franchise.
The mods I used for my playthrough were >Better Squad >Broken Initiative Helmet Logo Fix (PROLOGUE BUG) >Cursor fix >Elite Helmet and Platinum Nomad Skin Unlocked >Fast Mining >Faster Kadara doors >First Strike Mission Offline Fix
This one is for if your game is pirated, which it should >Increased Weapon Range >Lipstick be gone >Lore Friendly Castis >MEA Fixpack >Nakmor Drack Clutch Moment Mission Always Available >No Auto Reload >No Reload Icon >Orange Conversation Wheel >Road Rage >Shorter Landing and Departure Cinematics >Shut up SAM >Skip Bioware Logo >The Pathfinder Look >Turians Restored >Underarmor Casual Outfit >X5 Ghost Fixed Lights >froggy eye salarians
None are game changing, though Fast Mining is gonna be a godsend because the only thing worse than ME2 mining is having to do ME2 mining several times while driving the not!Mako >difficulty
Normal, you'll just make the game needlessly longer by going over it and it's not fun >classes
Game doesn't have classes, go for one armor power/one shield power/one freeby (mine was Tactical Cloak) >weapons?
One for short distance and one for long distance. Personally went with sniper/shotgun early on then sniper/shredding SMG
In my one and only Mass Effect 2 playthrough, only Miranda died during the suicide mission and it was all according to plan. I didn't like her one bit.
Did they pull a Rockstar/Beamdog with this where they removed the original versions of the game? Also did they all get hit this bad or just Mass Effect 1?
Mass Effect 1 is the one they improved the most. Gameplay is much better. There are missing effects so there are areas where originals look better but overall LE is better.
> Being able to reach 60 > Removed the moronic achievment buffs > Booster for the Mako > Rebalanced combat so the midgame isn't a huge difficulty spike and lategame isn't pisseasy
The booster for the Mako alone makes the game a worth pirating. Here's how to actually play it: > LE1 with some mods > Download Savefile creator and recreate the character(s) in Normal ME2 > Play original ME2 and 3 with mods.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>useless when importing your save >didn't matter in the first place >not worth enough to play the ugly demaster on its own >didn't matter in the first place >Here's how to actually play it: >autism >autism >autism
How about playing the OG trilogy with ALOT/ALOV then make fun of the demaster. Also I hope that pic isn't yours >F*mShep
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1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
Who's the moronic bawd standing under the doorway?
>Gameplay is much better
It's the same game with worse RPG mechanics because you can now use any weapon type no matter your class, they practically eliminated the sniper sway you had if not a Soldier/Infiltrator so what's even the point in class distinction? At most they added nitro to the Mako which is nice but then fricked it up with the new controls which you can at least revert in the options menu; not such luck with the new moronic Thresher Maw repetitive patterns
First game had terrible gameplay. Those older WRPG mechanics are generally hated. It makes sense to remove it. However I wish they did a better job instead of this botch job. It's still better compared to original.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon, it's literally the exact same game. You're making it sound like they changed it into ME3 combat or something, they didn't. They changed the UI but it's literally the same 2007 game just uglier. It's like GTA Definitive Edition
I don't mind being able to use other games since you can't spec points into them. Gives you more options as to how you control the battlefield alongside your class powers. I'll say that going from ME1LE to 2LE as an Infiltrator was miserable, especially with the Thermal Clip bullshit.
Is it your first time playing Mass Effect? Go for it, it's the best way to play the trilogy. If you've already played it and already have the games and DLCs there's no real reason to buy it.
There's only one quarian girl for me. Why couldn't we have just taken this vagrant onto the Normandy where I can pump her full of my human seed because she's grateful for being rescued from a life of destitution and prostitution?
Mass Effect 2 was such a waste of a game. Making the player join Cerberus (which for sole survivor Shepard's is just moronic given their past) and it didn't add anything to the game, it was just busywork until the reapers actually showed up.
>forces an Akuze Shepard to join the faction that butchered his unit, his friends >doesn't allow him to disagree >doesn't allow him to voice his concerns >doesn't allow him to go against TIM's wishes >pic related in the DLC
Cerberus went to waste in 3 anyway since as soon as you meet him TIM is indoctrinated and so is the entire group. 2 had some cool characters (I really liked Samara and Thane, the Drell are cool as frick) but it doesn't add much to the plot.
Cerberus went to shit as soon as 2 changed them from a small Alliance rogue group to an Illuminati organization that could CURE DEATH. THE CONCEPT OF BRAIN DEATH. CHANGED. BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE. RECREATED DEAD CELLS. That's not the kind of jump in tech you do in your supposedly grounded scifi series especially when it's used solely for shock value and accomplishes nothing that couldn't have been done by Shepard simply falling into a coma. The concept o
Bioware wrote themselves into a wall by making the Reapers the main focus with ME1. I see from my POV for ME2 is that they wanted to get away from that plot point in ME2 but they couldn't get out of it no matter what by ME3
They could have if it wasn't up to the marketing. ME3 had to be the biggest blockbuster with all the biggest decisions and galaxy-saving action. If they just pushed the reapers back a bit ME3 could've been about them acting through agents again. Trying to sabotage the Council for example. Instead that's just one mission on the road to solving every possible problem that had existed in the galaxy for a thousand years. Those problems should've never been solved too, with scale like this it's hard to feel anything about curing Genophage or redeeming the Geth. You could make a whole game just about those issues. And in a similar way the whole ME2 would've been just one mission if it was in ME3.
The problem is ME was planned as three games from the get go, they had other projects queued for after ME3 mind you it ended up being Anthem so, yeah.... Had ME2 developed the Reapers more as in, at all 3 might've been able to have more breathing room.
Hot take: "Wrex. Shepard." and "calibrations" were never funny or even all that memorable. Garrus is also the worst character in ME1 because his entire character is basically being a child who Shepard has to scold and he goes "you're right, sorry Dad/Mom." He's great in ME2 and 3 but he's also pretty much a completely different character.
I know waifu/husbandogays probably hate it but I thought it was neat that if you didn't romance Tali or Garrus they got together. I wish more parties and companions would do that in games. Like how in Baldurs Gate 2 you can end up in a love triangle with Aerie and Haer'Dalis.
I found "Wrex. Shepard" a little amusing because of how autistic they looked but never found Calibrations particularly funny.
I think you had to have both not gone far enough into the romance that you were officially dating Aerie (or at least when the games script decides your are actually in a relationship instead of just flirting) and the same with him. Instead of backing off when it's clear things are serious with you two he tries to get you to duel him over her, and she either drops both of you if you agree or calls him a brainlet and picks you if you try and talk things out.
Garrus is fun because of the voice acting and for being Shepard's designated yes-man. But as a character he's rather flat and simple. It takes until ME3's Palaven segment to learn anything about Turians from Garrus, he might as well be a human in the trilogy.
>Garrus is fun because of the voice acting and for being Shepard's designated yes-man
A rather sad interpretation.
Is the concept of mutually trusting battle brothers staying back to back no matter what not known to you?
I never said it's a bad thing or that it has no value. But most other alien characters are defined by their... alien-ness. Garrus scores quite low in that metric. Doesn't make him a bad character, just means his appeal is different.
>most other alien characters are defined by their... alien-ness. Garrus scores quite low in that metric.
I mean he's not even a good turian to begin with.
Ah, it just how it looked to me.
Can't recall yes-man being used in a positive light.
Thing is, Garrus has a strong moral core and works as a detective, which already means he's rather reasonable, and I can't recall when Shepard wasn't smart.
He may act good or evil, but he's never unreasonable, he's always professional and knows what he's doing, which is important in their field, and it's something Garrus knows as well.
Those two get along really well.
>Garrus isn't even a yes-man. Dude constantly leans on the Renegade side of the spectrum, even after ME1.
That doesn't stop him from being a yes-man, anon. You say he's a renegade but he'll always agree with Shepard whatever he does. That's the definition of Shepard's yes-man.
To say it differently, Garrus agrees with Shepard because they are alike in their ways, chosen work, and selflessly proactive chaotic good approach to things, but Garrus is somewhat younger in how he carries himself until the second game.
He agrees with renegade Shepard because deep within that is also something he can agree on.
He did go unto killing spree on Omega, after all.
>Garrus isn't even a yes-man. Dude constantly leans on the Renegade side of the spectrum, even after ME1.
That doesn't stop him from being a yes-man, anon. You say he's a renegade but he'll always agree with Shepard whatever he does. That's the definition of Shepard's yes-man.
You're right that Calibration weren't funny, neither is "This is my favorite store on the citadel", but "Shepard. Wrex" is alright as far as early 2010 memes go.
The "favorite store on the Citadel" one sucks because it's their attempt at forcing a Wrex/Shepard style meme. The real memetic line from ME2 is how many fricking times Shepard/one of the ME1 characters says "just like old times," because they were together, what, a few weeks at most (they were all basically gone before ME2's intro which is only a month after ME1's ending)? But they talk like they were a crew forged through years of battle.
I don't mind being able to use other games since you can't spec points into them. Gives you more options as to how you control the battlefield alongside your class powers. I'll say that going from ME1LE to 2LE as an Infiltrator was miserable, especially with the Thermal Clip bullshit.
The thermal clip is, in my mind, the single worst piece of writing in the entire trilogy. On its face it's not as outrageously bad as ME3's ending or even Cerberus being able to resurrect Shepard but it's a flagrant disregard of the lore that they took painstaking efforts to establish in ME1 and is jammed into the setting in a way that's completely nonsensical simply because a couple of Gearsbros during testing b***hed about combat being "too slow" with the cooldown mechanic. They disregarded the writing, setting, and lore to appease low IQ normalgays which, to me, is emblematic of the myriad of escalating problems with the writing after ME1.
>The real memetic line from ME2 is how many fricking times Shepard/one of the ME1 characters says "just like old times,"
I always felt that So Decadent was really underrated, though we loved it at the time.
Those guys were at least actually funny. Especially the "we should just kill 'em all" line because they're outraged someone would think all krogans are violent brutes. Of course for as good as shit like Charr and Ereba are, ME2 also started down the MUH KROGANS WUZ GOOD BOYS DEY DINDU NUFFIN shit.
>ME2 also started down the MUH KROGANS WUZ GOOD BOYS DEY DINDU NUFFIN shit.
I don't think ME2 and ME3 have a "we wuz good boys" thing for krogan, rather that they still have some potential to become good guys if things go right. Saving Wrex (who's the krogan equivalent of Jesus) makes it possible. Not possible enough in my opinion, safer option is to keep the genophage or introduce a slightly less extreme variant, but it is still possible.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Safest option would be to slowly have the genophage weaken, just like it was doing until Mordin and his team worked to correct it. The Krogan were already naturally starting to resist it slowly but surely.
I never really got that feeling. For me curing the Genophage was very much who is in charge of the Krogan. If Wrex and whatever her name are both around, they seem very capable of bullying the rest of the Krogan into not being a bunch of murder death machines. If Wrex isn't around there's absolutely no reason to cure it. If Wrex is around there's a chance that curing it won't frick over everyone ever.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I get that it's a game so naturally Wrex will be able to tard wrangle the other Krogan, but I just find it silly to hedge your bets on one Krogan who's already up there in years as is.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>but I just find it silly to hedge your bets on one Krogan who's already up there in years as is.
Reminder that there's actually no canon example of a krogan who died of old age. Okeer was like 2000+ and still was going to get recruited by Cerberus to be Shepard's squadmate. >inb4 Andromeda says Drack is getting old
Not canon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Frick man if that's the case then we should just fricking make them infertile. How is letting a race of biologically immortal walking tanks that breed like insects continue to exist a good idea?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wrex being around is literally the only reason to ever even think of it, because he is at least clearly able to get some number of Krogan to his way of thinking. Also pretty much every Female is on his side too. In truth, Wrex or anyone doesn't really have to tard wrangle them forever, just long enough that they don't die out. the Krogan were uplifted way too early, and now they're starting to see that they need to get on the fricking raft or they'll all die out.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Implying one (1) guy could keep an entire species in check is naïve as frick. All it would take is a small minority of Krogans to want to frick up other planets for all Hell to break loose.
It's a good concept, but they should've kept normal ME fire style.
This way, thermal clips become a booster which enemies can use as well.
An easy difficulty increase, enemies (EVERYWHERE) can easily control the flow by alternating in teams, control chokepoints or lay suppressive fire, making tactical mistakes more costly.
Really, missed real time tactical shooter potential.
>Femshep is the canon gender.
No she isn't. Even the animations are suited for male Shep. If you compare, there are quite a lot of segments where you can clearly see a scene was made with male Shep in mind. Funniest one is Shepard sitting in the forward battery with Garrus in ME2 about reach and flexibility, looks normal with male Shep, femShep looks like she's trying to flash her pussy to him lmao. Running as ME3 femShep without armor also looks moronic. Because she's just using maleShep's poses and animations.
BioWare themselves used male Shep in the LE intro as well as in the pre-rendered ME2 cutscene showing Shepard's death. Yes, even when playing as FemShep. The eyes are Sheploo's.
I go for Liara every time. She's kind, driven, patient, faithful, cute, intelligent and will erase my inferior genes from the galaxy by producing superior blueberry kids.
Mass Effect's modding community only dabbles in specific categories. It's not like Skyrim where there's countless talented autists working in every category of the game, Mass Effect modders don't really touch NPC appearance. It's tough work.
Tali is the only character I have ever legit, unironically fallen in love with and I'm still mad at Bioware for pulling the rug out from under me with that shit ending. After all that buildup it felt like they were laughing at me for getting invested. Frick them.
>turians were able to defeat many krogan bands. But the krogan responded with characteristically horrific attacks on turian worlds, using asteroids as weapons and rendering three planets totally uninhabitable.
Friendly reminder the Krogan deserved the genophage.
Every way you look at it, curing the Genophage is objectively a horrible idea and actually pretty fricking evil to boot.
Hell, if humans reproduced at such a massive rate I would support the Genophage being used on us. That completely disregarding how violent Krogan are. Only morons who scream about MUH BROGAN WREX and normies that refuse to look at anything pragmatically would cure the Genophage.
>Every way you look at it, curing the Genophage is objectively a horrible idea and actually pretty fricking evil to boot.
But you need shock troops against the Reapers, especially if it's a prolonged war. There's no room for morality conversations when the war is underway and you desperately need soldiers. Just cure it and then apply a new revised strain of the genophage if the galaxy survives the war.
That's why you lie about it. Better to lie then to give them a taste of being free of the Genophage only for them to inevitably sperg out and get it again.
It wasn't just the massive reproduction, it was the absurd hardiness and 1000 year life span. They were like giant, multi celled virus, reproducing out of control and destined to devour and destroy everything.
This, the Krogan need to unite as a people and stop being such raging morons or they deserve to stay neutered. Wrex is a start but Wrex is fairly old for a Krogan and you can't bet it all on him remaining in charge and being able to weed out the morons.
>uplift apes >give them nukes >surprised they act like apes with nukes
Maybe they should've been left alone in their planet instead of being shown the galaxy ahead of time just because you needed meat shields for the alien bugs the lizards had woken up. The genophage is a self-inflicted problem from the turians and salarians
>Maybe they should've been left alone in their planet
That's easy to say when you aren't getting ass raped by a bunch of space bugs and need a weapon to fight them. People were fine with the Krogan after until they started aggressively taking other races colonies by force because population control is apparently a foreign concept to Krogan.
>That's easy to say when you aren't getting ass raped by a bunch of space bugs
Sounds like a (You) problem >and need a weapon to fight them
Maybe think about the long term consequences of such an action? Oh wait, salarians don't do that because they live 40 years at best so they literally don't give a shit about the long term; same reason they're thinking about uplifting the yhag in ME3. The glowBlack person lizards do more harm than good >they started aggressively taking other races colonies by force because population control is apparently a foreign concept to Krogan
Yes, it literally was a foreign concept to them. Sounds like the kind of volatile race that shouldn't have been uplifted to begin with >b-bu-but
Don't frick around opening random relays, lizard
Well salarian then maybe you shouldn't have stuck your hand in the rachni beehive, then gave a chimpanzee a laser AK47 then got surprised the chimp chimped out.
>Open door >A Black person is standing there and stabs you >"Well shouldn't have opened the door"
No shit Captain hindsight.
>no need to open the door >doesn't lead to your house, you don't know where it leads >the door is located far away in a dark alleyway no one has gone to before >open it of your own volition >after you've been shanked you think the best course of action is to call in Lord Humungus' army >surprised when they stay around after the fact
Well salarian then maybe you shouldn't have stuck your hand in the rachni beehive, then gave a chimpanzee a laser AK47 then got surprised the chimp chimped out.
The Turians had nothing to do with uplifting, the Turians meet the Asari and Salarians in the middle of the Krogan rebellion. The most that happened there was the Salarians made the genophage and the Turians were the ones who pressed the big red button because "frick em, they destroyed three of our planets" and Turians want to not just best you but make sure you can't be a treat, and neutering works well at that.
Nah, they run into the citadel and were already space fearing. The asari and salarians begged them for help against the Krogan, they start fighting them, Krogan go for overkill by ramming asteroids and space stations into their planets rendering three uninhabitable and killing who knows how many, the turians get pissed. During that the Salarians make the genophage but intend to use it as a deterrent, but the Turians seeing the Krogan for the Black folk they are knew they'd keep going so they castrated them by deploying it.
Either way the Turians should've known that the Krogan's would absolutely habor a grudge that would span generations of Krogan. complete genocide would've been a mercy and a convience.
No need to, they've been put in their place and aren't a threat anymore. And once the Salarians find out the genophage is losing effectiveness they just double neuter them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They are a threat. With the Krogan cured (or not I'm guessing most people cured it) it'll only end up in civil war between Wrexists and Traditionalists. It was a irresponsible act to allow them to live in a slow drawn out death, their society crumbled, their entire mindset changed to apathy or intense rage, and most even seeing the act of reproduction as completetly useless.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Genuinely, the best option is to keep the genophage going. IT gives the Krogans time to figure out how to not be a bunch of buttholes, and if they don't they don't survive. If they do, genophage weakens those that are born learn from the start to not be a gay, and they can propagate like normal damn people.
imagine if we nuked each other in the 1960s (we almost did) and an extra terrestrial species saw our bloodlust, and technologically uplifted and programmed us to use that bloodlust on a galactic scale
krogan don't deserve genophage, krogan need to be demilitarized then left alone after massive extensive gene therapy that gets rid of their moronic blood rage
Nexus TJI had human colonists be given a considerable tech boost by a smart pacifist race so that they help them by lending them humanely natural aggression and expertise at war.
Rage is good, anon, so long as it's proper.
I wish theyd dabble more in playable aliens. Inquisition had all the species playable. I want to play as a laconic Turian soldier. A fish out of water Geth. A sage Asari Biotic. A scrappy Quarian tinkerer. A sarcastic Salarian rogue information broker.
Willing sex is always better than forced sex
Reapers are just incels and "the cycle" is their form of school shooting, just give them some fricking pussy and they go away.
>fought to get the best score so I can get my perfect happy ending with waifu >game just flat out laughs in my face and says nope, you suck, you are a moron for getting invested, pick a crayon, here's a nonsensical ending, you lose
How do I get over this rage? I'm still mad. Sometimes I can block out my feelings but then some posts reminds me of the good times I had and how much the ending soured me on all 3 games and how I want to bomb Bioware.
Someone help me cope.
How the frick did we from CRPG levels of ability control in ME1, to shared cooldowns in ME2, to manageable cooldowns but still shared in ME3, to only three powers but you can switch between four loadouts in Andromeda?
apparently genophage makes only 1 birth out of a 1000 viable
so why not just slightly edit the genophage to make it let's say 40 out of 1000 viable? krogan would still be low in numbers and not a galactic threat, but not a zombie race with no future either
hairy
Why would you romance a white woman in a game with aliens and black men?
basado
dont forget the varren
Cerberus used goods.
Yvonne Strahovski is a miracle of the universe.
>Jacob's used good
>looks like a post op troony from the neck up
>A*stralian
>infertile
lol
lmao
She is very pretty, how the frick did Bioware mess up Miranda this bad?
Canon. From the Shadow Broker thing with Liara.
I have never romanced a human character in any of my playthroughs of the Mass Effect series
Tali is a coomer human fetishist and it is canon that Tali will always have a crush on Shepard no matter who he chooses to romance.
is that from a mod, or is it cannon? I never played ME2 or 3
*canon I mean. Obviously it's not a big gun.
it's canon. From the Shadow Broker DLC
Shadow Broker ME2 DLC terminal
Dungeon of the Dark Merchant
mass Effect 2 dlc
>commander shepard log:
>Searched "big space robots"
>Searched "reapers"
>Searched "reapers big space robots"
>Searched "how to explain that the big space robots we all clearly saw attack the citadel are real"
>Searched "council email addresses"
>Searched "stores on citadel"
>Searched "stores on citadel -shepard"
>Searched "anti batarian build"
>Searched "best class against batarians"
>Searched "which weapon is the best against batarians"
>Searched "thermal clips buy"
https://vocaroo.com/1f4Ch4LsRqzV
>"EDI, please check my email for my equipment custom orders, anything arrived yet?"
>"Commander, I advise you to stop contemplating and talking about your Batarian killing optimizations while you're in the Presidium or otherwise in public places of similar import."
>"What about suboptimal Batarian killing?"
>gets horny and installs nerve stim
>immediately uninstalls after cumming
Kek
basically me
She just like me fr
Grunt buys an Asari porno vid. TIM fricked like 6-8 different women within a single week.
>Tali will always have a crush on Shepard no matter who he chooses to romance.
This is why I am incapable of romancing anyone else. I can't hurt my girl like that. The one time I tried to romance Miranda, when I rejected Tali her response bothered me so much that I reloaded a save so I could switch to her romance.
It's a crush, crushes are rarely reciprocated. She gets over it and fricks Garrus.
>crushes are rarely reciprocated.
This just plain isn't true. I remember high school.
>I remember high school.
Good for you anon.
Good For You.
>Male Shep as a dweeby, flat, uber-Canadian voice
>FemShep shows more range of emotion because she's an actual VA and not some sign spinner standing outside the Bioware offices or wherever they got Meer from
>FemShep romances with Tali and Jack were cut/dummied out so I have to listen to ManShep's shit voicework if I wat to frick either of them
Both Sheps are fine, and isn't Meer a theater actor?
Your disingenuous assertions are rude, anon.
Male Shep is only bad in Mass Effect 1, stop pushing this meme of male VAs are le bad to justify playing as a woman. I see this cope all the time with any game that has a voiced male/female option.
male shep is way funnier
I've played through all three games as both and Meer is bad the whole way through. He "improves" from sub-Youtube VA levels to Youtube VA levels but he's still never anythign approaching acceptable, especially as the badass space hero. He's fine as hanar where his shit voice and inability to emote fits but not as the hero. Sbarge and Meer would've been better swapping roles.
Hale's worst performance is the Jacob writing and that's due largely to the horrendous writing. It sounds like she's almost taking the piss out of it with her hamminess during conversations with him.
Uh huh, sure anon. Go back to making threads about how you only play as women because you don't want to see man ass, ignoring the fact you only keep looking at it because you're a homosexual.
Literally the only reason I play FemShap over ManShep is the better VA. Don't have this problem in Fallout games pre-4 since, thankfully, the MC doesn't actually have a voice so I'm not forced to listen to a shitty one deliver all the dialogue. If Meer was a better VA I'd pick ManShep more often.
I'm also trans btw, but that has NOTHING to do with it. I just don't like the voice actor!
Glad you came out but it doesn't change the fact Meer is a terrible voice actor.
why did you reply to your own post?
Wrong. Meer is only really bad only throughout the minor stuff in ME1. In the main stuff and in Bring Down The Sky he's okay. He improves in ME2 and ME3 quite a bit without ever going overboard like she does, she sounds like an actress very obviously performing takes in a VA studio instead of a soldier looking at the world down the barrel of a gun. Like go compare maleShep vs femShep at Thane's "funeral", he blows her out of the water.
>femshepgays STILL haven't gotten over it
kek
anyway your meme about maleshep being flat doesn't work because he was only flat in game 1, and it was later explained as deliberate because the devs wanted shepard to feel like a blank slate easy to self insert into
in 2 and 3 he matches hale, arguably outpaces her in 3
Meer's delivery of the Citadel DLC's last line is top tier 12/10
For me, it's how Shepard's "big stupid jellyfish" hand movement is synced to Meer's acting not Hale's
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Sheploo's autism is honestly endearing. The VA has little range, but it unintentionally characterizes Shephard as this solder-type weirdo bro who only drops the act when he can't keep it up anymore, or when he's with his crew.
GamerPoop Shepard helps, too.
Still manages to earn loyalty and redeem people.
Shep got spirit.
FemShep sounds like an aggressive b***h c**t no matter what she says so I'll stick to male.
She looks great pregnant.
One of the best female characters in gaming.
Not even the best female human in her series.
I also have a personal preference for Jack.
But it's close.
And they are both at their best, when they interact off each other.
It's shit that writes itself.
If you're a writer, this is a dream to nail down, between your female characters.
And what did Bioware do? Retire them both, and has not produced a single pair that has the same chemistry, since.
Nor ever will.
Still mad.
Brother.
Freckled Jack is not something I knew I needed until just now. Holy shit.
Freckled Jack is probably among the most niche waifus, which is in my opinion why she's in the top 5 of all waifus
ASSASSASSASSASSASSASS
Finally someone posted a good Miranda pic.
>perfect genes
>Is ugly and british
lol
>perfect genes
>Australian
My favourite scene is the one where Tali gets drunk and admits she is shit and can't hold a candle to Miranda.
Tali is built for watching in the corner.
Tali Missile
I once did a playthrough and Tali died. Had to restart. ME3 actually sucks and makes no sense without her.
>ME3 actually sucks
You didn't have to go further.
it's fine until the last hour.
Think how much it slogs for you, until you get Tali.
Think your romance not even being in the game.
Tell me it's just the last hour.
Nothing carries this game.
All of my favourite characters are absent.
I have no investment and no interest in this game.
"Fine" is a good way of putting it. It's pretty uneven but there are enough actually great moments + fun combat to carry it through. Until the lame ass final mission and mediocre post-DLC ending.
>"Fine" is a good way of putting it
No. It's ridiculously mediocre and painful, with worse the worst encounter and level design in the trilogy. It has some good fights, that are heavily front loaded, and the more you progress into the game, the more grating they become, with the side-quests being mere afterthoughts and absolutely abysmal to get through. Stomaching the terrible, pedestrian writing, the last minute characters that Bioware begs you to "please love them", because they had no time to implement the good one is just making my eyes and ears bleed, having to suffer them. Including Vega, including Cortez, including Traynor, including Allers. Characters that have no business being introduced in the third part of a trilogy.
It's a slog. It's a painful, dreary, unfun slog.
But enough about Mass Effect 2
But does he have Cerberus Leader as a stat? Ha!
Nothing a high explosive sniper with a rail can't fix, anyway...
>implying
Anon, please explain why the humans held off the Reapers for far longer then the Asari and Turian homeworld despite being hit before them and having weaker military might.
It was shit from the get go.
Humans are the least compromised species.
All the others were upgraded by Protheans, who were themselves being corrupted.
Humans ostensibly got off well, getting only Prothean archives and an observation post.
>held off
Anon, Earth is full on Terminator future while Shepard is away banging aliens. I wouldn't say they "held them off"
>Shepard is away banging aliens
Well, humanity ain't gonna repopulate itself.
But Quarians can't get pregnant with human babies.
Shepard (and Cerberus R&D division) will find a way.
why not. They defeated death before. At this point they could fly around in space with no suit like Leia with the bullshit that ME2 pulled
With science anything can happen
>betray your species
That's pretty much making a new species, all things considered, which puts one at odds with both.
Imagine all the shit a human-quarian hybrid would have to go through. Superior immune system but can't make out with quarian gf or she could die. Can only eat turian/quarian "food" while also having cravings for human food.
Both are fixable.
Various complaints from ruling elites about playing with life, breaking laws on genetics and running ethically questionable experiments, less so.
Probably because there's a pretty big difference between Reapers beating a planet's fleet, and Reapers eradicating all the billions of humans who went underground to hide in the planet's crust and started guerilla tactics? Dumbass.
>crust
Hey, wanna know what do you get when a bunch of sapients get into a planetary crust and get nicely cooked by a relativistic stream of molten metal?
A crust-acean.
🙂
I'd post Carlos, but no images, so just imagine him.
Oh, you!
>only Miranda died during the suicide mission
Unironically how did you pull it off with just her dying? It's pretty hard to kill her. Was she in your squad for the final part?
I hung out with every other crew member, did everything with them, and distinctly remember how you're rewarded with their power after doing everything with them. I remember liking the black guy's power the most since it gave you massive shielding.
I only interacted with Miranda a few times. I think that's how it happened. I think she looks ugly and didn't like how she carried herself as being the hottest chick in the galaxy. I just didn't even want to see her face.
During the final mission, everybody was there and they did their part, but Miranda died.
That's pretty mean, anon. You should save that hate for a species that deserves it, like the Batarians or Jacob.
No, the Quarians are irredeemably stupid and deserve genocide. The only mistake the Geth made, was they didn't go far enough. Rannoch is the second-worst part of the game.
I just started ME2, how do I keep everyone alive? Is it just doing their loyalty missions?
Make the ship upgrades.
All of them.
By ship upgrades you mean like upgrading the lab for Mordin? Thats the only one I've gotten so far. And by map do you mean scanning planets and bringing their completion to 100%? This is going to sound dumb but I will literally feel bad as a person if one of them die. Choosing between Ashley and Kaiden in ME1 was my own personal Sophie's Choice
You're a sensitive soul, anon.
The upgrades come out later.
>By ship upgrades you mean like upgrading the lab for Mordin?
There are ship upgrades you can research and others you can buy from vendors. Do all of them.
You'd have to be incredibly stupid to let any of them die. Just do the ship upgrades and all of their loyalty missions, it couldn't be more obvious which of them you're supposed to pick for which role during the end.
Don't get the reaper IFF until the rest of the map is cleared/don't forget to actually get the crew upgrades for ship.
>Loyalty mission
>ship upgrades
>pick the right role for them
Listen to Jacob and Miranda when it comes to the Suicide Mission. Jacob volunteered to go into the vents and Miranda is confident in her biotic abilities. Just trust them, bro.
No. You have biotic and engineer specialists for those tasks.
But Jacob should absolutely lead the Fire Team.
It's really fricking easy.
>do all the missions
>do all the companion quests
>buy all the ship upgrades
>assign companions to the tasks they're most suited for
It's designed so that even a little kid can keep everyone alive without a guide.
Some of the SM deaths are pretty funny.
I love Tali, but this webm always makes me laugh. Just the way the person that dies just flops on the ground is just hilarious to me.
I hate Miranda, but the idea of Tali being a cuckquean with low self esteem is pretty hot.
I hate T*li, but the idea of her being raped and dying from infection is pretty hot.
Same for all Qu*rians.
When I first hear her voice in me2 (played me2 first) I wanted to throw her out of the airlock, Javik style
I mean what else? I can't fully commit to the Death Blussy and they fridge her in 3 as a frickin random mook.
>Morinth just disappears with a post it note
>Morinth becomes a random enemy at the end game
>Morinth doesn't even show up in the reunion dlc 'fix'
Frick Bioware.
The frick you on about. I wanted Morinth and Bioware said frick me
Hee Hee
So I never played the original ME2, only ME1 but I'm working my way through and got to ME2 in the Legendary edition and I really can't get why people like her so much? Im still early on, recruiting the initial Cerberus team but I don't see whats so likable about her
You romance whoever you feel is best girl. I banged Tali because I enjoyed her meltdowns when talking to her.
nothing
she just has a few active shills here
most popular one Tali by a long shot
i don't think quarian girl ever lost a populaity contest
michael jackson looking ass b***h
I'll just HEEHEE my way into your bedroom.
I miss her.
I watched "I, Frankenstein" with Aaron Eckhart, just for Yvonne. The film is shit, but Yvonne acts the frick out of her role. It's like they plucked her performance out from a better movie and put her there.
Just watch Dexter Season 7. Much better experience.
I don't give a shit about Mass Effect, I just want more Chuck.
Frick everyone and everything goddamnit.
After ME3, I don't care about ME, either. I just want more Jack and Miranda.
>I just want more Chuck.
There was a point where I wanted Chuck and Sarah to play Captain Marvel (Shazam) and Captain Marvel. And then we could have a crossover and more chuck and a chuck movie and Morgan was always right about chucks personal life so the kiss totally worked. But after Levi said some antivax shit on twitter he not get a lot of work because of drama shit making him less marketable.
As I am based, I follow guides and have never lost a single crewmate.
i'am unironically surprised someone liked that troony M. Jackson
She is *still* the most popular ME2 romance.
i don't even need to check to know it's Tali
>I like to live in my little delussional world.
>is a squad mate in all three games (Miranda is only a squad mate in ME2 and barely exist in ME3)
>almost every Mass Effect thread on Ganker starts with Taligay posting or Batarians dying
>Miranda is a boring ugly white human women in a sci-fi game
You trying to push this bullshit is actually starting to get weird at this point. You can like Miranda all you want, just don't pretend that most fans didn't give a shit about her.
>Bioware's ME2LE infomatic clearly states otherwise
>No, I don't believe it.
Whatever you want, anon. I don't fricking care.
Ganker is firmly entrenched in Tali country, and no other website matters when it comes to taste, so no, you're the one who is wrong.
Believe whatever the frick you want, anon.
>believe
*know
That is an irrelevant statistic.
I don't have a dog in this race but Tali was ranked 11th in surviving the suicide mission and Miranda was 4th. Do with that information what you will.
Anon, Farquad doesn't care.
He doesn't even understand that you shouldn't care about how popular your waifu is.
Mine is Jack and is the least popular in the entire franchise. Even Kelly had a better percentage.
>is the least popular in the entire franchise
yeah because she's an ugly dyke
Fantastic.
based
shaved heads are not attractive on women. maybe if her breasts were bigger and she had more hair.
The only way you can be hot without hair as a women is if you're an alien with big breasts and a cool skin color like blue or green, but asari headthings look close enough to hair anyway
>shaved heads are not attractive on women
Spoken like a man who never used a buzzcut woman's head in his hand, while using her throat as a wienersleeve.
Also, short hair are the ultimate beauty test. If your waifu looks good with short hair, she's trully gorgeous.
And yeah, nobody saw Jack in her trailer, or even in game and thought this is the woman of my dreams. I like short hair on women, and even I thought Jack's would be too much.
I was wrong.
Gotta love how the devs wanted the reveal that Jack is a girl be a shock which is why nothing from the intro to the Codex to the prison inmates show her image or refer to her as 'she'... then the marketing trailer spoils it anyway
Admittedly no i have not done that
I'm not gonna ask my girlfriend to shave her head to find out though
>I'm not gonna ask my girlfriend to shave her head to find out though
Shaving your hand is pretty easy and innocuous, though.
Its hot to cum on their bald head
A fellow man of refined tastes.
Jack has beautiful face and elegant figure.
Miranda has disgusting face and bimbo figure.
That's all I care about.
Miranda has big fricking breasts, she wins by default in that contest.
You're young and fool, boy.
I FRICKING LOVE BIG FAT TIDDIES ON WOMEN AND I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT I DON'T
IF THERE ISN'T AT LEAST A SLIGHT RISK OF ME SUFFOCATING IN THEM FROM A HUG I'M NOT INTERESTED
>yeah because she's an ugly dyke
Miranda
>Mine is Jack
impeccable taste
>no Jacqueline with full, long sex hair
The three least likely to survive are the first ones to go if you don't pick the right people for the final fight
We need more Miranda.
Mass Effect in general needs more Miranda.
Especially with Jack, alongside her.
I'm not just saying it because Bioware can't produce a good new cast to save themselves.
Although that is absolutely true.
But because Mass Effect is absolutely dead, as a franchise, that has nothing to offer narratively.
I would like to challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
I'll be right here.
Ah, mah heart!
Why you do me dirty like that, Miri?
She's too good for this franchise.
>nipple hanging out
based
What? That can't be right, anon. Ganker is a SFW board. I would never post a nipple sticking out.
>MarvelousBrilliantBarasingha-mobile
Either Jack or Liara. Absolutely no other romance is consistent or worth pursuing in this series because the cast constantly keeps changing game for game.
What the hell are you going to do? Get friend zoned by Samara just to kiss her once in the Citadel DLC in ME3?
lol
>forget to talk to her at the start of ME on my one femshep one
>dies like a b***h
I like her but god damn is she needy
Bro why does her body shape look like the "craving my mcnuggies" guy?
The movie where futa femshep gives her a wholesome talking to in-between clips of her brutally fricking her stupid is one of my favourites.
>futa
>femshep
Double trash.
>getting pounded
>calls her mommy
https://rule34video.com/videos/3057866/fraternization-lordaardvark/
It's so bad it's good
>Miranda thread
Holy based.
who the hell is that supposed to be?
Traynor
>Nevernude moron that showers in her underwear
no one gets nude in this series except for liara and ashley
why is she walking like she needs to take a massive shit?
Wet clothes is a big one for some
Playing the serie for the first time and I'm towards the end of ME3 (doing the Citadel DLC before the final attack on Cerberus base). Great series so far even if I don't like a few things with ME3 and hated Mass Gears of War 2 combat.
I know the ending is bad and it has something to do with colours but I hope it's not as bad as you anons make it sound to be.
It just boils everything down to three palette swaped ending and negates every choice you made up to that point. You could have skipped to the ending and not play the trilogy at all, and you'd still get the same three endings. It takes nothing in consideration.
If you're not particularly invested in the franchise, haven't had the particular anticipation and don't really care about the end of it, you'll be fine.
But nobody escapes the post-ending depression.
I read every codex entry and planet description because I really like the lore and the various characters.
I literally just beat it myself and the ending is *fine* with the additions they made. I think the problem is that nothing you do leading up really affects anything and even your choice at the end barely makes a difference. You should look up the original ending though and see what additions were made. I thought the ending was abrupt but it is super abrupt before they added onto it.
>Mass Gears of War 2 combat
I really enjoyed the combat.
I'm used to shit endings so it was whatever to me, I enjoyed playing the games so even if the ending was disastrous it didn't ruin it for me like it did for others
ME3 and its ending is hated that much because people were waiting years to see resolution to all their decisions while speculating about best case scenarios. Back in those days we still believed that Bioware can pull it off and the whole "your decisions actually matter" thing was still taken seriously. When you play all three games back to back with no context of those years but knowing not to expect anything from Bioware it doesn't hit that hard and that's a good thing.
It's not. Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings, and I bet most that play the games today and do are simply thinking about it harder than they'd normally do if they didn't know the endings have had a decade of controversies. Leviathan and Extended Cut both help immensely.
The real, often unspoken reason why the endings stang so much for people that played the game in 2012 was because they had to wait between games. That's really it. Nowadays you finish 2 and jump straight to 3, no thinking in-between; back then you had the biggest fans talking in forums daily for years between releases, coming up with theories on how the endings would totally keep all this different shit in mind and how it'll be the Suicide Mission 4.0 and how the devs totally thought the story through and they came up with an explanation for the robot squids back in ME1, and they totally weren't just winging it with each game because they had no fricking clue about what they were doing.
Without the pre-release hype, without the in-between games theory crafting, and with the complete package with DLCs, for the type of games Shepard's trilogy are as a whole (not what they *could've* been, not what ME1 teased future games could feel like both mechanically and narratively, which is its own can of worms), the endings are honestly not that bad. Really, there's far worse endings in tons of vidya, but the 2012 stigma will never disappear.
>Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings
I too like to eat paint.
I don't care about your fetishes anon
That wasn't even a comeback. Lame.
>Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings
I mean I experienced the entire trilogy for the first time back in the day and I had plenty reason to complain about the endings. Both the original ending and BioWare's half-assed trash they threw in after they got called out the first time. And sadly their tactic of half-assing it worked since it divided the community just enough to dissolve any unified front against them which could have motivated them to actually fix it.
I mean, there is a reason why to this day mods that change or remove the ending are as popular as they are. Or that a game as deliberately unmoddable as Mass Effect 3 has mods at all, and that most of them focused on fixing the ending.
>a game as deliberately unmoddable
It's a game made in fricking Unreal
>most of them focused on fixing the ending
ME3 has 688 mods, how many of them change the ending?
shamone
I went through great effort to get her killed off because she was a b***h and also ugly, and frick the whole idea of cerberus, ruined the series' main story arc
>but her ass
idgaf
she goes against all my globohomosexual power above all else mindset so I can't stand her. wish I could throw her out of the airlock.
>best girl
>infertile
Frick you.
Like it fricking matters in a universe where they literally brought a dead person back to life.
Woah
>infertility
>even a thing in a universe where cerberus has the tech to literally reanimate a corpse.
A cute little quest to find a Mcguffin of fertility would have been more fun than saving her sister imho.
Mordin could've fixed it in an afternoon. He was messing about with curing Joker just to amuse himself.
Reinstalling Mass Effect now
What class should I be? I always played soldier or biotic typically, had the most fun with soldier generally. Never tried a tech class, are they fun?
Sounds like you should play Infiltrator at least in 2/3. Tech allows you to bring whatever squad combination you feel like in 1 without fear of not being able to decrypt open loot. Sentinel is OP in 2 specifically.
Infiltrator is fun and tech classes have shit like electronics and decryption so it frees a party slot for members without any of those at all. In 2 and 3 Infiltrators get tactical stealth so you can reposition as much as you want, sometimes it can spice up the gameplay.
vanguard in 2 & 3. The charge ability alone makes the combat much more enjoyable
I played as engineer on insanity
don't do it
Infiltrator is fun, as is Sentinel. Engineer is okay - it's pretty much just Sentinel but without the biotics.
Wasn't gameplay just a corridor shooter? Much worse than Gears of War, or do I remember it wrong?
Basically Gears with a bit more variety. 3 had the best gameplay of the trilogy but the multiplayer was the only place the true potential of the series really opened up
Abilities were nice but level design and gunplay was much better on Gears.
>real actress has blonde hair
>no other romance option has blonde hair
>choose to give her hair that makes her look like MJ before he died
If any game needed accurate face scanning, it was this one.
>Miranda this
>Tali that
Yeah, Miranda is great, but best girl is really Ashley
no
Based. This is such a kino scene. This scene alone is why I let Kaiden die on Virmire.
A great example of delayed gratification.
What does Kaiden do if he survives?
You mean what he does in this scene if he survives Virmire or what he does the rest of the game if he survives this scene? In any case Kaidan never wishes the Reapers to win even if you treat him like shit pre-Citadel coup
At that scene.
>Kaidan never wishes the Reapers to win even if you treat him like shit pre-Citadel coup
Thank you.
I've done him dirty bros:(
There's always a future playthrough. Both Ash and Kaidan get a bad rep for not being donutseel special aliens in 1 and Ash' writer in 3 didn't know what the frick to do with her so it's overall better to have her die a hero in Virmire then have Kaidan as a bro in 3. Plus he has more dialogue and is better mechanically (also he geats Reave). Just make sure to have a romance locked-in before talking to him post-coup and he won't be ruined.
Ashley isn't even attractive until 3, and sounds like Mila Kunis' moronic sister.
imagine waifuing the two out of three worst girls in mass effect
next you'll tell me you like kelly
Yes I do
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You're very welcome
>romance Tali
>no email from her in the Citadel DLC
>can't find her anywhere
I don't want to throw a party without her, where the frick is she?
Fricking Garris
No he is fricking that other turian chick we met at the casino.
>he doesn’t know
Sorry you had to find out this way bro
Update: still can't find her.
She sends you a email to meet with you in the apartment
Samara is so painfully underused in 3. what a waste of good cleavage.
She's barely used in 2 as is. Think about it, you help her with her detective sidequest regarding Morinth but what else does she do after that? You never really feel like she's this millenia old Jedi master, Jack can do the bubble thing just as easy
I always used Samara for the bubble. Jack is top tier for a human, Samara is top tier for an Asari.
she has a disgusting flabby ass, like she's 60 years old
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Whoa, cool it with the anti-volusism
I can see Shepard doing the "big stupid jellyfish" animation when he says "Big Human wiener".
The illusive Man ones are very good
>Karate chop Batarians in HALF
Damn, I didn't know Jack was chill like that.
Which ones have Jack and Miri moaning from intense sex with Krogan?
>with a spaceship you can go anywhere you want
Within reason of course.
But there are many empty moons and planets with an occasional bunker with a few sapients and some omni or medi gel.
🙂
I miss Mako.
>had to mod Miranda's ass shots back into LE
I don't care if they were out of place, they're iconic. I hate Bioware so fricking much.
If only her face wasn't built like a brickhouse.
I romance Ash every time. I have played the ME Trilogy a million times and she is Shepard's one true romance so we can create strong human babies to dominate the weakened alien races post-reaper invasion.
anyone got the image that shows she looks like micheal jackson
I feel 0 attraction to this lady. I used to hate her even but she kinda grew on me.
>tali is the only good waifu
>but me1 is the only good me game and you can't romance her in it
Someone really likes Miranda? She fricking ugly. Like she really ugly, looks like a goblin, a monster, a bad bimbo prostitute.
She had sex with a Black person. She had sex with men unknown to her to check if she could get pregnant. She walks like a cheap bawd. Representative of Azari, the race of the prostitute, literally say that Miranda looks like a prostitute.
I hope all this thread is trolling, because Miranda is really ugly and disgusting. She is similar to the woke sjw character that feminists created.
>She had sex with a Black person
Where is this coming from? I don't recall the games ever stating Jacob fricked Miranda
>I don't recall the games ever stating
You should pay more attention my man. They explicitly state that in the game. From both Jacob and Miranda. Kasumi also has the hots for Jacob and Liara watches him work out with no shirt on.
Jacob was the protagonist of a pre-ME2 mobile game called Mass Effect Galaxy
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He then mentions it in ME2 itself, how the two of them tried it out but it didn't work out, "don't mix business and pleasure" etc.
>Miranda saw Jacob's micro-penis
>I'm sorry Jacob, this isn't going to work out
>Already seen Shepard's mega-wiener, which is the sieze of a maul and has rumours that he's submited Krogan through beating them with it
>Gets heartbroken and dies if ME3 Shepard denies her the dick
>Miranda saw Jacob's micro-penis
Jacob is the reason why her womb doesn't work anymore. He tore her shit all up.
Just keep telling yourself that, Jacob.
Miranda's clit is twice the size of your wiener.
Holy cope. Don't get mad at him because your waifu likes the british broadcasting corporation
Jacob literally tells Shepard that Miranda needs a bigger man than him.
Why did Bioware have to be such cucks? they even had femshep's default dialogue being flirty towards jacob
I ignored Tali during my trilogy playthrough.
And then at the very fricking end of it all on the final DLC before the last mission I saw Garrus hitting on Tali and realized I made a terrible mistake.
I restarted the entire trilogy just to romance Tali.
So glad Jack is getting love. I'm so glad that ME is one of the only franchises where everyone respects each other's waifu choices.
were not completely alone
Remember to thank Fox News for sparing us from a decade of tumblr bullshit around Jack
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Isn't her name Jennifer? Jack and Jacqueline are psuedonyms, she posts her poetry under the name "Jacqueline Nought" a.k.a Jack Zero or Subject Zero.
Yes, Liara says her real name is Jennifer if you bring her to Grissom with an unromanced Jack
>I'm so glad that ME is one of the only franchises where everyone respects each other's waifu choices.
Well. Almost everyone.
Can't win em all fren
I mean, either way, I think her name is pretty if that makes sense.
Jackchad takeover kek
It's been a good thread
>Mass thread
>lack of Liara images
Have you seen an asari commando before?
Is this b***h Gillian Anderson for millennials or something?
I don't know. She wasn't in something as good as the X-Files. She was in Chuck, which was campy, she was in Dexter, when the series' writers had already jumped the shark and a one season appearance in 24. The thing is that she is a legit good actress, absolutely gorgeous, never talks shit to the fans, even as her character in Dexter was HEAVILY criticized, and keeps giving performances of the material given to her, far above the level of its writing. Which is why Miranda works so well.
>The Chuck director that was a massive footgay
>Didn't care at the time but even then I knew someone must have had a thing for her feet.
>Going back now
Muy Bueno.
>knows someone on Discord who roleplays as her as a vicious dominatrix type
Shit's wild
me with garrus
What are those images?
Mass Effect Archives, the ME equivalent of the Dragon Age Keep. Each choice from all three games comes with a little description.
>loyal
It's still hilarious to me that Jacob cucks femshep. It makes him the only romance that actually stood out to me since something interesting actually happens.
they're from the archives
throwing a bone to others with inferior waifus
Can we get some blander flavour text? At least Jack's has some flair.
>"She grew as a person! She's a school teacher for biotic kids now!"
that's great b***h, pay for the damages to this one's moon
Turian women are built for Big Human wiener.
>Cheese grater gingey.
>Jacobs sloppy seconds
If Jacob didn't exist Miranda would be the most forgettable party member.
I didn't romance anyone because the romances in Mass Effect are lame as frick.
Mass Effect was console babies first RPG (and even then more an action RPG), that's why. Same as Halo being console babies first FPS.
>Jacob and Miranda share a page
oof tough break there Mirandites
Why she so fricking ugly? She looks like Aloy
>Sex appeal
>Looked worse then how she did in 1 and 2
I hate that uniform.
But I guess Liara has to hide that she's fat, somehow.
It doesn't even look armored. Also they could have just had her have a different outfit for the normandy, like they do other characters. You don't see beefcake for instance running into battle in the t shirt he's wearing on the ship, but actual armor.
I can't wait to see Bioware drag Mass Effect out of its grave and see the seethe it causes.
If people get excited after Andromeda and seeing Liara in ME4's trailer they'll have no one to blame but themselves
I think that people saw Liara and the N7 and expected that Shepard and the crew would be back. I don't believe Bioware will bring them back. Even if they do bring them back, it's over. It has been over since they made ME3. There is nothing they can do to bring the franchise back. They can use Shepard and the crew to sell some extra copies. That's as far as I can see it going.
Yeah no way Shepard is going to be the main character, anyone who thinks that is a brainlet. I'm more curious how they're going to make the three different endings not matter at all, assuming they don't just pick a canon ending (which honestly they'd likely be better off doing)
>assuming they don't just pick a canon ending
They will, and it will be destroy.
I wouldn't be so sure. Dragon Age let you make some pretty big or drastic changes to shit in the setting and then they don't matter. I wouldn't put it past Bioware to try and justify when the plot still has to happen when AI Shepard or whatever controls all the reapers.
Honestly, how would you "save" it?
Pick the destroy ending, reference the reapers in the first 5 minutes and have everyone go "oh yeah, that happened" and then never mention it ever again. Never bring back any characters at all and scale down the story to focus more on smaller scale conflicts.
Nothing else is going to make sense because they don't have any good writers who can pull off anything but destroy
>Pick the destroy ending, reference the reapers in the first 5 minutes and have everyone go "oh yeah, that happened" and then never mention it ever again. Never bring back any characters at all and scale down the story to focus more on smaller scale conflicts.
This game will be releasing, I wager, around 2030. For it being 18 years since ...
Jesus fricking Christ, I really hope they axe it.
For it being 18 years since the last time the franchise was relevant, this game will sell 5 copies.
I understand how you mean it, but this will likely have a budget in the neighborhood of ~$350 million. If costs haven't ballooned further, by then. How do you even sell this game enough to break even?
Pic related.
>TLDR Mass Effect goodwill is at an all-time high especially by normies but they'll frick it up anyways
It sold around 2.5 million copies in a year. It basically sold the first week, and then it died. It was flavour of the month. It doesn't have the following you think it does. And Dragon Age has 1/3 of that.
Same as above.
I agree. This is going to backfire hard. They should have come out and said it, the moment the "speculation" about Shepard returning broke. Now it's too late. I expect when Bioware announces the new protagonist and crew, there will be a controversy for a week, people will forget about it, it will sell well for the first week and then it will die. That is my expectation.
Make it take place at most 50 years post-High EMS Destroy and leave the rebuilding of the galaxy as background sidequests and Codex entries. Have the main plot be low stakes, simple KOTOR/ME1-style pacing.
Liara will be back as a mentor figure because the only way to have her dead in the OT is reaching Earth with the lowest EMS possible then use her for the Conduit run. People that think Shepard and co. will be back are morons, BioWare won't deal with the myriad ramifications they should keep in mind if making Shepard the MC again. His battle is done, let him rest.
I don't think ME died with 3, especially not now after a decade and millions of people playing the trilogy for the first time without a decade of seething thanks to streamers and the LE. If anything Mass Effect as an IP it's in a better place than it's ever been since 2012: long enough removed from 3 and Andromeda and after the good will of the Legendary Edition for normies. The problem is that BioWare as a studio doesn't exist anymore, all the old guard are gone. Even ME3, if you read the interviews most of the blame falls on EA and the moronicly short dev time they forced on the team which made them have to play musical chairs with Javik and the Virmire Survivor and the ending and plenty other things because the game was made with about as much dev time as New Vegas but with the expectations of carrying over savefile transfer choices of two previous games (and let's be honest, after ME2 barely did anything with choices from 1).
TLDR Mass Effect goodwill is at an all-time high especially by normies but they'll frick it up anyways
>Liara will be back as a mentor figure because
Because she's obviously a writer's pet, simple as.
>because the game was made with about as much dev time as New Vegas
New Vegas at least had a lot of assets ready to use from Fallout 3 and from what I've seen from the devs Bethesda was pretty fair with them and helped them out quite a bit. I doubt EA was that generous.
I know, yeah Ganker likes to meme on the Creation Engine but it's a highly maleable engine very easy to edit and play around with which is why TES/Fallout modding is as big as it is. There's interviews out there regarding Old World Blues and how they didn't have much time to make assets for it so part of the dev process was based around looking at F3, F3 DLC and FNV assets and figure out how to twist them, chop them and fake them up into new looks for Big MT. With Bethesda every aspect of the game from mechanics to level design to scripting is very simple to edit, even a moron can make it so a fire spell changes its dps from 10 to 15 in a couple clicks. The ability to fill every cell with objects all of which you can individually grab (what was the last 2000+23 game where every plate and bottle in a shelf was an item you could loot with its own weight and inventory model?) or give NPCs AI/schedule packages that tells them where to go, to sit, to drink, to sleep etc.
Going back to Mass Effect 3, it took one of the devs outright calling an EA rep to allow them to push the game back from March 2011 to March 2012. It's a miracle ME3 came out the way it did and not like DMC2 with what they had to crunch to get it done.
>a working engine
Bit generous there
There is nothing wrong with Gamebryo. Bethesda and Obsidian both are just devs that are really bad with time management and feature creep so they forget to fix up the game until about 3 months before release and then have to start cutting things to make shit work. The biggest offender for Skyrim was the civil war questline.
How much got cut for the civil war?
bout 350 homies
Off the top of my head
>Was more dynamic, you'd pick which hold to conquer next
>You'd have to do more missions with each hold before you could take the city
>More variety in said mission, stuff like raiding a town to kill legion soldier stationed there, sabotage resources like mines or mills, break a fellow imperial/stormcloak out of an enemies jail
>Instead of just whiterun and solitude/windhelm having a siege, every hold would end in a siege battle
>Enemy would attempt to retake holds, again you could actually lose those fights (and iirc outright lose the war) and you'd have to retreat and escape the city before it fell
If you want any more check out
https://tcrf.net/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim/Civil_War
I'm going to leave it at that to not detract from the thread since it's about a different game.
I can hear the PS3 imploding from here
I mean the ps3 is also why New Vegas strip had to be divided into 3 areas with piles of junk acting as loading barriers, it couldn't handle it as one long strip.
I will admit I'm curious about Starfield since Bethesda apparently overhauled Creation Engine quite a bit and of the people I know who played 76 said it fixed some issues that have lingered in their games for quite a while.
There was also the meme 11/11/11 deadline they had to work to.
>Bethesda was pretty fair with them and helped them out quite a bit
I believe there was something about some of Bethesda's devs coming over to teach Obsidian devs how to use Gamebryo, and the whe metacritic bonus was something Bethesda themselves put in the contract, it wasn't asked for. It's a big reason why New Vegas is better then 3, Obsidian had more time to focus on other shit since they didn't need to make basic assets for everything, and even some of that barely made it in like staged reloading which apparently was a nightmare to make work and nearly got cut prior to launch.
Bethesda is weird as frick. On one hand they helped Obsidian all they could, on the other they got so mad when Dead Money dared to add a bad ending that they forced Obsidian cut the bad ending for OWS. It's like a very helpful individual that also has a very specific case of autism.
They like proper good or bad endings.
Bioware should really stop with the whole N7 shit in their marketing in Mass Effect. They pushed it in Andromeda before release to fool people into thinking Shepard's involved in some way and look how that game turned out. Now they're doing it again with ME4 into making people believe Shepard's coming back
>I think that people saw Liara and the N7
They saw Legion and N7 once too, it went where?
I mean, Shepard did come back as MC in that game
>They saw Legion and N7 once too, it went where?
Well, they really had no reference for a Geth wearing an N7. Nobody knew what it meant. But if you're going to put Liara next to the N7 insignia, you bet your ass people are going to think Shepard is back. They thought the same thing with Andromeda. Did you forget that?
I'm not saying the people are right. But people see what they want to see, and get upset when it turns out otherwise. Because it's not what they waited for. And for people that will be waiting until, possibly, 2030-31, to be told 6-9 months before release that we are going with a new protagonist, after 10 years of being left hanging on Shepard, this won't go down well. This is not a hard concept to grasp.
>I think that people saw Liara and the N7 and expected that Shepard and the crew would be back.
Only morons who can't into storytelling want Shepard back. It's like wanting Lord of the Rings 4 where Frodo joins a new fellowship to throw a new ring into a new volcano against a new dark lord. Those who can't understand what's wrong with this, they don't deserve to be called sentient.
>It's like wanting Lord of the Rings 4 where Frodo joins a new fellowship to throw a new ring into a new volcano against a new dark lord
Jokes on you, can be spun into a working story.
Quips and self-referential sarcasm optional.
I don't believe there's anything that can be made, post ME3. You don't follow up Lord of the Rings, with Lord of the Rings 2. It's done. It's over. The entire franchise is over. Nothing else can be done. There's nothing to do in the past, there's nothing to do in the future. It's over. You can't even remake it.
walnut size brain
I don't believe it. I don't believe there is anything this franchise has to offer, after ME3. You can only have worse received characters, less interesting lore and world building, less interesting stories, less interesting conflicts, all of the big issues of the setting have been resolved, there's nothing else to look forward to. You're not going to endear people with "oh shit, we fricked up and we reset everything to how things were at the start of ME1, so we can redo them again". And about everything else that might pop up, even if it were semi-competently executed, which it won't, who gives a shit? There's nothing left. Obviously you might care about Liara, and if the setting was called Liara Effect, that'd be fine, but it's not. So who the frick actually cares? Do people care enough to buy, at minimum, 7 million copies of this game, at launch, just to have it break even?
>I don't believe there is anything this franchise has to offer
More smudboy videos?
Smud didn't even make a video on Mac Walters leaving Bioware, while being the third, or fourth, production lead that Dragon Age 4 loses. Even he's moved on. The entire company, and its franchises, are dead. Dragon Age should have already been out, and we should be talking about the next Mass Effect, right now, with tangible information. And we're talking the next game is 6-8 years away, still.
Nobody's going to care.
Sounds to me like you've been wearing horse blinders since 2012
Make a counter argument. Give me something solid and tangible. Mike Gamble's big idea, so far, is merging the Milky Way with Andromeda. Are you excited for that? Do you want to see more Kett and Angara? Aren't you just dying from curiosity to find out what happened to the Jardaan? Who made the Scourge? I fricking don't. I couldn't give half a shit about any of that. What can you possible introduce that turns all that around, and who is going to wait until 2030 for it?
My counter argument is that you've posted the same thing in threads for months and you're somehow too ESL and butthurt from ME3 to understand people discuss the idea that ME as a universe is easy to save, not that the devs in charge of it are going to do it. You're obsessed with numbers and dates when they mean jackshit, it's as if you're the one looking forward to the next game the most out of everyone ITT
>My counter argument is that you've posted the same thing in threads for months
That's not a counterargument. This is the equivalent of making a choice in Mass Effect and the next game getting an email saying "you did X in the last game". Like, thanks. Yes, I noticed. I remember. I don't have Alzheimers. Thanks for the email, Bioware. Are we going to pretend like that email did something? Did you noticing it, somehow make the argument invalid? If I went around making threads how 2+2=4, would that make the result false, somehow? Then what the frick does the fact that you notice it have anything to do with it? You fricking paint chip eating mouthbreathing moron? Every fricking time you waste everyone's time with your inane bullshit. Speak and make it mean something. Frick.
I rest my case
You made no case, Farquad.
Go frick yourself.
Why are you bringing up the Cyberscam gay autist outta nowhere. Actually nevermind I don't want to know, (You)
holy autism
>I don't believe there's anything that can be made, post ME3. You don't follow up Lord of the Rings, with Lord of the Rings 2. It's done. It's over. The entire franchise is over. Nothing else can be done. There's nothing to do in the past, there's nothing to do in the future. It's over. You can't even remake it.
I never said the franchise cannot be ever touched again. That's not what I said. I said Shepard as a protagonist is a concept that should no longer be used, and people only want it for nostalgia points and they're blind to anything resembling actual narrative logic. Thought that was obvious.
> It's done. It's over.
I agree with this anon. Having a sequel would just feel wrong. And an extended universe would suck because either one of the endings become canon or they tip-toe around it and it would be stories upon stories of literally nothing happening. I understand the crave for more content but I don't want ME turning into an even more aimless franchise.
I'm morbidly curious about it.
They killed the franchise with ME3, and there's nothing they can do to bring it back.
It's literally over.
That's how I feel about the new Dragon Age as well. I'm more interested in seeing the bullshit they put in over the game itself.
miranda and liara do it with shotas whenever nobody is looking
hot and true, post it
i dont want another 3 day vacation
>no geth romance
I romance Tali because she is a socially awkward coomer that gets sloppy when drunk just like me
How long realistically is it going to take for Mass Effect 4 to come out?
ok ok i'll give you guys miranda tali and jack ... but i'll get to keep samara for myself
deal
I just bought Andromeda, any tips to make it fun? Recommended mods/difficulty/classes/weapons?
Did it for Turian gf
oof
>any tips to make it fun?
None.
You poor bastard
My condolences.
The mods I used for my playthrough were
>Better Squad
>Broken Initiative Helmet Logo Fix (PROLOGUE BUG)
>Cursor fix
>Elite Helmet and Platinum Nomad Skin Unlocked
>Fast Mining
>Faster Kadara doors
>First Strike Mission Offline Fix
This one is for if your game is pirated, which it should
>Increased Weapon Range
>Lipstick be gone
>Lore Friendly Castis
>MEA Fixpack
>Nakmor Drack Clutch Moment Mission Always Available
>No Auto Reload
>No Reload Icon
>Orange Conversation Wheel
>Road Rage
>Shorter Landing and Departure Cinematics
>Shut up SAM
>Skip Bioware Logo
>The Pathfinder Look
>Turians Restored
>Underarmor Casual Outfit
>X5 Ghost Fixed Lights
>froggy eye salarians
None are game changing, though Fast Mining is gonna be a godsend because the only thing worse than ME2 mining is having to do ME2 mining several times while driving the not!Mako
>difficulty
Normal, you'll just make the game needlessly longer by going over it and it's not fun
>classes
Game doesn't have classes, go for one armor power/one shield power/one freeby (mine was Tactical Cloak)
>weapons?
One for short distance and one for long distance. Personally went with sniper/shotgun early on then sniper/shredding SMG
In my one and only Mass Effect 2 playthrough, only Miranda died during the suicide mission and it was all according to plan. I didn't like her one bit.
Never played any of the games. What's the difference between all the girls?
>Best Girl doesn't even have a Romance
I want my gilf gf...
Open up the final link in
literally me everytime i talk with mommy chakwas
All I can hear every time I see her is Queen Myrrah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71OaluZ_rKE
Oh that explains why i wanted to frick queen myrrah
>Doctor Chocolates knows too much.
Alright, I'll refund ME:A and just beat off to Nyreen
good choice
>saw legendary on sale
>have to install a bunch of EA aids to play it
I'll pass, I guess
Just pirate it
You still have to install Origin/EA Desktop App.
Well that sucks. At least they don't get any money from pulling that shit I guess
I kind of want the ultimate edition. Talk me out of it.
>Talk me out of it
Did they pull a Rockstar/Beamdog with this where they removed the original versions of the game? Also did they all get hit this bad or just Mass Effect 1?
Didn't play 2's legendary edition but I know they changed the email girl for some reason.
ew
>They gave her a fricking Karen haircut
lel
I mean I thought her face always looked odd but that's just a straight up downgrade.
They used 3's model for "consistency's" sake.
>face always looked odd
She's a big jawline and like a lot of Mass Effect 2 characters looks like she's made out of playdough.
I don't even get what the reasoning for this is. Did they think the old model looked bad?
1 is the one where the difference is the most obvious, 2 is the buggiest/one where they introduced the most bugs and 3 is pretty much the same
Mass Effect 1 is the one they improved the most. Gameplay is much better. There are missing effects so there are areas where originals look better but overall LE is better.
lmfao no
> Being able to reach 60
> Removed the moronic achievment buffs
> Booster for the Mako
> Rebalanced combat so the midgame isn't a huge difficulty spike and lategame isn't pisseasy
The booster for the Mako alone makes the game a worth pirating. Here's how to actually play it:
> LE1 with some mods
> Download Savefile creator and recreate the character(s) in Normal ME2
> Play original ME2 and 3 with mods.
>useless when importing your save
>didn't matter in the first place
>not worth enough to play the ugly demaster on its own
>didn't matter in the first place
>Here's how to actually play it:
>autism
>autism
>autism
How about playing the OG trilogy with ALOT/ALOV then make fun of the demaster. Also I hope that pic isn't yours
>F*mShep
...
Who's the moronic bawd standing under the doorway?
>Gameplay is much better
It's the same game with worse RPG mechanics because you can now use any weapon type no matter your class, they practically eliminated the sniper sway you had if not a Soldier/Infiltrator so what's even the point in class distinction? At most they added nitro to the Mako which is nice but then fricked it up with the new controls which you can at least revert in the options menu; not such luck with the new moronic Thresher Maw repetitive patterns
First game had terrible gameplay. Those older WRPG mechanics are generally hated. It makes sense to remove it. However I wish they did a better job instead of this botch job. It's still better compared to original.
Anon, it's literally the exact same game. You're making it sound like they changed it into ME3 combat or something, they didn't. They changed the UI but it's literally the same 2007 game just uglier. It's like GTA Definitive Edition
I don't mind being able to use other games since you can't spec points into them. Gives you more options as to how you control the battlefield alongside your class powers. I'll say that going from ME1LE to 2LE as an Infiltrator was miserable, especially with the Thermal Clip bullshit.
guns*
Is it your first time playing Mass Effect? Go for it, it's the best way to play the trilogy. If you've already played it and already have the games and DLCs there's no real reason to buy it.
There's only one quarian girl for me. Why couldn't we have just taken this vagrant onto the Normandy where I can pump her full of my human seed because she's grateful for being rescued from a life of destitution and prostitution?
>There's only one quarian girl for me
how can you even tell the difference
She has a cuter, non-gyppo voice.
MaleShep is fine.
He's always calm and steady.
No matter what. He is who's needed, and he never falters.
you all know what you really want...
>Garrus
>not Harbinger
SHEPARD I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS
SHEPARD I ALWAYS SURVIVE
ThErE's nO sHePaRd WiThOuT w-W-wAkA-vAkAriAn
*SHODAN creepy intensifying lag noises*
Why would you do that?
Mass Effect 2 was such a waste of a game. Making the player join Cerberus (which for sole survivor Shepard's is just moronic given their past) and it didn't add anything to the game, it was just busywork until the reapers actually showed up.
>forces an Akuze Shepard to join the faction that butchered his unit, his friends
>doesn't allow him to disagree
>doesn't allow him to voice his concerns
>doesn't allow him to go against TIM's wishes
>pic related in the DLC
Cerberus went to waste in 3 anyway since as soon as you meet him TIM is indoctrinated and so is the entire group. 2 had some cool characters (I really liked Samara and Thane, the Drell are cool as frick) but it doesn't add much to the plot.
Cerberus went to shit as soon as 2 changed them from a small Alliance rogue group to an Illuminati organization that could CURE DEATH. THE CONCEPT OF BRAIN DEATH. CHANGED. BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE. RECREATED DEAD CELLS. That's not the kind of jump in tech you do in your supposedly grounded scifi series especially when it's used solely for shock value and accomplishes nothing that couldn't have been done by Shepard simply falling into a coma. The concept o
Bioware wrote themselves into a wall by making the Reapers the main focus with ME1. I see from my POV for ME2 is that they wanted to get away from that plot point in ME2 but they couldn't get out of it no matter what by ME3
They could have if it wasn't up to the marketing. ME3 had to be the biggest blockbuster with all the biggest decisions and galaxy-saving action. If they just pushed the reapers back a bit ME3 could've been about them acting through agents again. Trying to sabotage the Council for example. Instead that's just one mission on the road to solving every possible problem that had existed in the galaxy for a thousand years. Those problems should've never been solved too, with scale like this it's hard to feel anything about curing Genophage or redeeming the Geth. You could make a whole game just about those issues. And in a similar way the whole ME2 would've been just one mission if it was in ME3.
The problem is ME was planned as three games from the get go, they had other projects queued for after ME3 mind you it ended up being Anthem so, yeah.... Had ME2 developed the Reapers more as in, at all 3 might've been able to have more breathing room.
Nah, by the end of 1 it wasn't known when they'd show up. 2 is where they actually fated the plotline to be about Reapers.
Hot take: "Wrex. Shepard." and "calibrations" were never funny or even all that memorable. Garrus is also the worst character in ME1 because his entire character is basically being a child who Shepard has to scold and he goes "you're right, sorry Dad/Mom." He's great in ME2 and 3 but he's also pretty much a completely different character.
I disagree.
Even used Shepard Wrex as a greeting with friends or as a past time.
I know waifu/husbandogays probably hate it but I thought it was neat that if you didn't romance Tali or Garrus they got together. I wish more parties and companions would do that in games. Like how in Baldurs Gate 2 you can end up in a love triangle with Aerie and Haer'Dalis.
I found "Wrex. Shepard" a little amusing because of how autistic they looked but never found Calibrations particularly funny.
>Baldurs Gate 2 you can end up in a love triangle with Aerie and Haer'Dalis.
That was a thing?
I think you had to have both not gone far enough into the romance that you were officially dating Aerie (or at least when the games script decides your are actually in a relationship instead of just flirting) and the same with him. Instead of backing off when it's clear things are serious with you two he tries to get you to duel him over her, and she either drops both of you if you agree or calls him a brainlet and picks you if you try and talk things out.
Garrus is fun because of the voice acting and for being Shepard's designated yes-man. But as a character he's rather flat and simple. It takes until ME3's Palaven segment to learn anything about Turians from Garrus, he might as well be a human in the trilogy.
>Garrus is fun because of the voice acting and for being Shepard's designated yes-man
A rather sad interpretation.
Is the concept of mutually trusting battle brothers staying back to back no matter what not known to you?
I never said it's a bad thing or that it has no value. But most other alien characters are defined by their... alien-ness. Garrus scores quite low in that metric. Doesn't make him a bad character, just means his appeal is different.
>most other alien characters are defined by their... alien-ness. Garrus scores quite low in that metric.
I mean he's not even a good turian to begin with.
Ah, it just how it looked to me.
Can't recall yes-man being used in a positive light.
Thing is, Garrus has a strong moral core and works as a detective, which already means he's rather reasonable, and I can't recall when Shepard wasn't smart.
He may act good or evil, but he's never unreasonable, he's always professional and knows what he's doing, which is important in their field, and it's something Garrus knows as well.
Those two get along really well.
To say it differently, Garrus agrees with Shepard because they are alike in their ways, chosen work, and selflessly proactive chaotic good approach to things, but Garrus is somewhat younger in how he carries himself until the second game.
He agrees with renegade Shepard because deep within that is also something he can agree on.
He did go unto killing spree on Omega, after all.
Garrus isn't even a yes-man. Dude constantly leans on the Renegade side of the spectrum, even after ME1.
>Garrus isn't even a yes-man. Dude constantly leans on the Renegade side of the spectrum, even after ME1.
That doesn't stop him from being a yes-man, anon. You say he's a renegade but he'll always agree with Shepard whatever he does. That's the definition of Shepard's yes-man.
You're right that Calibration weren't funny, neither is "This is my favorite store on the citadel", but "Shepard. Wrex" is alright as far as early 2010 memes go.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs
The "favorite store on the Citadel" one sucks because it's their attempt at forcing a Wrex/Shepard style meme. The real memetic line from ME2 is how many fricking times Shepard/one of the ME1 characters says "just like old times," because they were together, what, a few weeks at most (they were all basically gone before ME2's intro which is only a month after ME1's ending)? But they talk like they were a crew forged through years of battle.
The thermal clip is, in my mind, the single worst piece of writing in the entire trilogy. On its face it's not as outrageously bad as ME3's ending or even Cerberus being able to resurrect Shepard but it's a flagrant disregard of the lore that they took painstaking efforts to establish in ME1 and is jammed into the setting in a way that's completely nonsensical simply because a couple of Gearsbros during testing b***hed about combat being "too slow" with the cooldown mechanic. They disregarded the writing, setting, and lore to appease low IQ normalgays which, to me, is emblematic of the myriad of escalating problems with the writing after ME1.
>The real memetic line from ME2 is how many fricking times Shepard/one of the ME1 characters says "just like old times,"
I always felt that So Decadent was really underrated, though we loved it at the time.
Does anyone remember what was the name of that video with a ME1 Krogan at Therum?
It had a nice disco track, really catchy.
Those guys were at least actually funny. Especially the "we should just kill 'em all" line because they're outraged someone would think all krogans are violent brutes. Of course for as good as shit like Charr and Ereba are, ME2 also started down the MUH KROGANS WUZ GOOD BOYS DEY DINDU NUFFIN shit.
>Finding Charr in Mass Effect 3
My homie didn't deserve that.
>ME2 also started down the MUH KROGANS WUZ GOOD BOYS DEY DINDU NUFFIN shit.
I don't think ME2 and ME3 have a "we wuz good boys" thing for krogan, rather that they still have some potential to become good guys if things go right. Saving Wrex (who's the krogan equivalent of Jesus) makes it possible. Not possible enough in my opinion, safer option is to keep the genophage or introduce a slightly less extreme variant, but it is still possible.
Safest option would be to slowly have the genophage weaken, just like it was doing until Mordin and his team worked to correct it. The Krogan were already naturally starting to resist it slowly but surely.
I never really got that feeling. For me curing the Genophage was very much who is in charge of the Krogan. If Wrex and whatever her name are both around, they seem very capable of bullying the rest of the Krogan into not being a bunch of murder death machines. If Wrex isn't around there's absolutely no reason to cure it. If Wrex is around there's a chance that curing it won't frick over everyone ever.
I get that it's a game so naturally Wrex will be able to tard wrangle the other Krogan, but I just find it silly to hedge your bets on one Krogan who's already up there in years as is.
>but I just find it silly to hedge your bets on one Krogan who's already up there in years as is.
Reminder that there's actually no canon example of a krogan who died of old age. Okeer was like 2000+ and still was going to get recruited by Cerberus to be Shepard's squadmate.
>inb4 Andromeda says Drack is getting old
Not canon.
Frick man if that's the case then we should just fricking make them infertile. How is letting a race of biologically immortal walking tanks that breed like insects continue to exist a good idea?
Wrex being around is literally the only reason to ever even think of it, because he is at least clearly able to get some number of Krogan to his way of thinking. Also pretty much every Female is on his side too. In truth, Wrex or anyone doesn't really have to tard wrangle them forever, just long enough that they don't die out. the Krogan were uplifted way too early, and now they're starting to see that they need to get on the fricking raft or they'll all die out.
Implying one (1) guy could keep an entire species in check is naïve as frick. All it would take is a small minority of Krogans to want to frick up other planets for all Hell to break loose.
It's a good concept, but they should've kept normal ME fire style.
This way, thermal clips become a booster which enemies can use as well.
An easy difficulty increase, enemies (EVERYWHERE) can easily control the flow by alternating in teams, control chokepoints or lay suppressive fire, making tactical mistakes more costly.
Really, missed real time tactical shooter potential.
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Femshep is the canon gender. Wreck it Ralph used femshep.
Wrong. Nobody knows what she sounds like. I don't think I've ever heard it in my life. Meanwhile Default male Shep is iconic.
>Femshep is the canon gender.
No she isn't. Even the animations are suited for male Shep. If you compare, there are quite a lot of segments where you can clearly see a scene was made with male Shep in mind. Funniest one is Shepard sitting in the forward battery with Garrus in ME2 about reach and flexibility, looks normal with male Shep, femShep looks like she's trying to flash her pussy to him lmao. Running as ME3 femShep without armor also looks moronic. Because she's just using maleShep's poses and animations.
BioWare themselves used male Shep in the LE intro as well as in the pre-rendered ME2 cutscene showing Shepard's death. Yes, even when playing as FemShep. The eyes are Sheploo's.
>he plays as femshep
shut up post Tali's ass
She has nice nudes.
I go for Liara every time. She's kind, driven, patient, faithful, cute, intelligent and will erase my inferior genes from the galaxy by producing superior blueberry kids.
How is there not a decent blonde mod for Miranda by now what the frick is the point of you modding community?
Mass Effect's modding community only dabbles in specific categories. It's not like Skyrim where there's countless talented autists working in every category of the game, Mass Effect modders don't really touch NPC appearance. It's tough work.
What an absolute angel.
Indeed
>"I was genetically engineered to be perfect"
>Has buck teeth
Yes. It's the year of the rabbit anon. Embrace buck teeth supremacy.
Tali is the only character I have ever legit, unironically fallen in love with and I'm still mad at Bioware for pulling the rug out from under me with that shit ending. After all that buildup it felt like they were laughing at me for getting invested. Frick them.
>turians were able to defeat many krogan bands. But the krogan responded with characteristically horrific attacks on turian worlds, using asteroids as weapons and rendering three planets totally uninhabitable.
Friendly reminder the Krogan deserved the genophage.
Indeed. That's why I never cured it in any playthrough. Their species should be forced to adapt and appreciate life more.
Every way you look at it, curing the Genophage is objectively a horrible idea and actually pretty fricking evil to boot.
Hell, if humans reproduced at such a massive rate I would support the Genophage being used on us. That completely disregarding how violent Krogan are. Only morons who scream about MUH BROGAN WREX and normies that refuse to look at anything pragmatically would cure the Genophage.
>Every way you look at it, curing the Genophage is objectively a horrible idea and actually pretty fricking evil to boot.
But you need shock troops against the Reapers, especially if it's a prolonged war. There's no room for morality conversations when the war is underway and you desperately need soldiers. Just cure it and then apply a new revised strain of the genophage if the galaxy survives the war.
That's why you lie about it. Better to lie then to give them a taste of being free of the Genophage only for them to inevitably sperg out and get it again.
As Mordin puts it, curing the genophage is bad because it WILL end in the Krogan being wiped off the face of the universe, and that's a tragic loss.
It wasn't just the massive reproduction, it was the absurd hardiness and 1000 year life span. They were like giant, multi celled virus, reproducing out of control and destined to devour and destroy everything.
This, the Krogan need to unite as a people and stop being such raging morons or they deserve to stay neutered. Wrex is a start but Wrex is fairly old for a Krogan and you can't bet it all on him remaining in charge and being able to weed out the morons.
>uplift apes
>give them nukes
>surprised they act like apes with nukes
Maybe they should've been left alone in their planet instead of being shown the galaxy ahead of time just because you needed meat shields for the alien bugs the lizards had woken up. The genophage is a self-inflicted problem from the turians and salarians
>Maybe they should've been left alone in their planet
That's easy to say when you aren't getting ass raped by a bunch of space bugs and need a weapon to fight them. People were fine with the Krogan after until they started aggressively taking other races colonies by force because population control is apparently a foreign concept to Krogan.
>That's easy to say when you aren't getting ass raped by a bunch of space bugs
Sounds like a (You) problem
>and need a weapon to fight them
Maybe think about the long term consequences of such an action? Oh wait, salarians don't do that because they live 40 years at best so they literally don't give a shit about the long term; same reason they're thinking about uplifting the yhag in ME3. The glowBlack person lizards do more harm than good
>they started aggressively taking other races colonies by force because population control is apparently a foreign concept to Krogan
Yes, it literally was a foreign concept to them. Sounds like the kind of volatile race that shouldn't have been uplifted to begin with
>b-bu-but
Don't frick around opening random relays, lizard
Maybe you shouldn't have fricked with space bugs in the first place.
>Open door
>A Black person is standing there and stabs you
>"Well shouldn't have opened the door"
No shit Captain hindsight.
>no need to open the door
>doesn't lead to your house, you don't know where it leads
>the door is located far away in a dark alleyway no one has gone to before
>open it of your own volition
>after you've been shanked you think the best course of action is to call in Lord Humungus' army
>surprised when they stay around after the fact
>how do i solve this? I know, lets give this OTHER Black person a shotgun
waow
Well salarian then maybe you shouldn't have stuck your hand in the rachni beehive, then gave a chimpanzee a laser AK47 then got surprised the chimp chimped out.
The Turians and Salarians deserve to be enslaved by the Krogan for being stupid enough to uplift inherently violent species.
The Turians had nothing to do with uplifting, the Turians meet the Asari and Salarians in the middle of the Krogan rebellion. The most that happened there was the Salarians made the genophage and the Turians were the ones who pressed the big red button because "frick em, they destroyed three of our planets" and Turians want to not just best you but make sure you can't be a treat, and neutering works well at that.
Really? I thought the Turians were already there by then and needed help with the rachni.
Nah, they run into the citadel and were already space fearing. The asari and salarians begged them for help against the Krogan, they start fighting them, Krogan go for overkill by ramming asteroids and space stations into their planets rendering three uninhabitable and killing who knows how many, the turians get pissed. During that the Salarians make the genophage but intend to use it as a deterrent, but the Turians seeing the Krogan for the Black folk they are knew they'd keep going so they castrated them by deploying it.
>fearing
Frick I'm going to bed once this thread archives, I'm fricking tired.
Either way the Turians should've known that the Krogan's would absolutely habor a grudge that would span generations of Krogan. complete genocide would've been a mercy and a convience.
What makes you think they aren't aware they hold a grudge?
Because they didn't kill the rest of them.
No need to, they've been put in their place and aren't a threat anymore. And once the Salarians find out the genophage is losing effectiveness they just double neuter them.
They are a threat. With the Krogan cured (or not I'm guessing most people cured it) it'll only end up in civil war between Wrexists and Traditionalists. It was a irresponsible act to allow them to live in a slow drawn out death, their society crumbled, their entire mindset changed to apathy or intense rage, and most even seeing the act of reproduction as completetly useless.
Genuinely, the best option is to keep the genophage going. IT gives the Krogans time to figure out how to not be a bunch of buttholes, and if they don't they don't survive. If they do, genophage weakens those that are born learn from the start to not be a gay, and they can propagate like normal damn people.
imagine if we nuked each other in the 1960s (we almost did) and an extra terrestrial species saw our bloodlust, and technologically uplifted and programmed us to use that bloodlust on a galactic scale
krogan don't deserve genophage, krogan need to be demilitarized then left alone after massive extensive gene therapy that gets rid of their moronic blood rage
Nexus TJI had human colonists be given a considerable tech boost by a smart pacifist race so that they help them by lending them humanely natural aggression and expertise at war.
Rage is good, anon, so long as it's proper.
I wish theyd dabble more in playable aliens. Inquisition had all the species playable. I want to play as a laconic Turian soldier. A fish out of water Geth. A sage Asari Biotic. A scrappy Quarian tinkerer. A sarcastic Salarian rogue information broker.
>play as a female Quarian and going after human wiener
>asari bawd route
>end the war by achieving peace with reapers, offering all the Asari as a harem, including yourself
Foolish c**t brain.
They don't need peace for something they will take by force anyway.
But you know that already, don't you?
Willing sex is always better than forced sex
Reapers are just incels and "the cycle" is their form of school shooting, just give them some fricking pussy and they go away.
Playing as a Legion surrogate would be fantastic.
>plays futuristic space game
>doesn't groom and coom the nerdy post-grad blue alien girl
bigot
>Hardly any games that allow you to go on adventures with your romanced characters/spouse
This is why Skyrim still reigns supreme.
Bioware should just create different timelines like Gundam if they're hell bent on still milking ME.
>fought to get the best score so I can get my perfect happy ending with waifu
>game just flat out laughs in my face and says nope, you suck, you are a moron for getting invested, pick a crayon, here's a nonsensical ending, you lose
How do I get over this rage? I'm still mad. Sometimes I can block out my feelings but then some posts reminds me of the good times I had and how much the ending soured me on all 3 games and how I want to bomb Bioware.
Someone help me cope.
By realizing mass effect wasn't that good of a series to begin with and the waifus in the game were kind of ass
It wasn't bad either.
it's not working
it wasn't the destination it was the joruney 🙂
I didn't have a problem with Shepard dying at the end. That's how I like my self-insert characters to end up their story.
How the frick did we from CRPG levels of ability control in ME1, to shared cooldowns in ME2, to manageable cooldowns but still shared in ME3, to only three powers but you can switch between four loadouts in Andromeda?
apparently genophage makes only 1 birth out of a 1000 viable
so why not just slightly edit the genophage to make it let's say 40 out of 1000 viable? krogan would still be low in numbers and not a galactic threat, but not a zombie race with no future either
>Really shepard?
>Yes, really