Is that normal? I can barely keep up with the in universe terms they keep bringing up. They really took 0 time to explain anything about the games world.
I'm 7 hours into this game and I barely understand whats happening.
Is that normal? I can barely keep up with the in universe terms they keep bringing up. They really took 0 time to explain anything about the games world.
Much like drug addiction. Quit at this point while you can. Forget this game existed and buy ff6
*lifts wine glass to fellow anons
Cheers!
I like to finish what I start, but i'll probably play 6 after,
6 ks shit.
Story is tacked on. Just enjoy the visuals.
>filtered
>the absolute state of FF chuds
It's a multimedia project. You have to read a japanese only novel and to have followed the dev cycle and lore drops from the beginning of the game's development to underatand it. And yes, this is why final fantasy sucks now.
yeah the way the story is presented is horrendous. read the datalog if you’re really interested, but honestly it’s not important
they tried to do a really aggressive in media res thing and only somewhat pulled it off, there's an ingame codex for a reason. it's all pretty straightforward they just don't have all the traditional expository dialogue where characters explain things they'd already know to each other for the sake of the audience.
that is all the dialogue is, bro
This is my personal definition of "Gets good after forty hours" game. I started hating my captors but by the end couldn't wait to see the next story beat. It helps I liked the battles/music/visuals.
Read the datalog, but it doesn't matter much. All you need to know is that you are a peon in some gods' conflict.
>Gets good after forty hours
Wrong, it was better while it was a linear game. Pulse's side quests are shit too. Game becomes good again after the Gran Pulse in the final dungeon though.
Same. I went into ff13 thinking I would hate it but it really grew on me and I think highly of it. The battle system was really fun and so was the music. It's the kind of game that logic tells me I should hate but I really like it a lot
You're not alone. It's so stupid and convoluted despite in-game encyclopedia. And no, it does not get good when you reach the green open plains area.
I had a roommate I'd watch play this back when it came out and despite not seeing all of it I don't think he knew what was going on any better than me.
Yes that's the ff13 experience.
You will get it as you progress the game
They really bump a lot of information in the beggining
The importante things are:
Coccon is a moon like aritificial planet that floats over Pulse (the real planet)
They gone to war in times past and severed communication until the Pulse Falcie brands lightning sister serah
The falcie are gods that can brand humans to do their will, and when it is done they become a crystal and dream forever, if they fail they turn into monsters
The choosen branded people are called lcie, your group is all branded by the pulse falcie, enemy of coccon, and your focus is a mistery
The brand grants you magic powers
I understand this is a really common criticism of FFXIII, but I've never understood it. I found FFXIII's plot pretty easy to follow (not saying it's a GOOD plot, mind you) and never had to defer to the datalog for more info. Funnily enough, in the rare instances where I didn't understand what was going on, the datalog didn't contain any clarifying info.
I mean don't get me wrong, the story isn't HARD to follow. Like I get the idea that we're on the run from people and we're also cursed to turn into crystals. But in terms of world building, the game didn't really spend any time on that whatsoever. If you asked me any detailed st uff about the games plot i'd be at a loss.
Snoys made up random reasons to hate the game since it was on Xbox. MMO-trannies took the same reasons and pushed it as well, for even more autistic reasons.
13 was the last FF made with SOVL, 15 was butchered in dev completely. 13 was also sapped in development but that is a story for another day.
>SOVL
You can safely ignore this posers opinion.
At 7 hours in all you should need to follow is godlike beings can give humans powers to do a task and foreign ones are bad. The main characters' behaviour is the baffling part, not the game's world.
Literally could have all been fixed with a 45 second introductary text crawl/VO ala FF6 or star wars. Even Dune does it.
A text crawl that didn't give away information you shouldn't have yet or contain irrelevant bunk would only mention things that you'll know by the end of Chapter 1 anyway
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I can't take men with such small teeth seriously
>Is that normal?
It is if you're a zoomer.
>asian rpg
just enjoy the ride
The story uses some retarded terms and expects you to either read the codecs to bumble along until you get enough context clues to figure out what the fuck they mean.
And XIII has the most concise story of the trilogy, it gets worse with each game
Quit while you're ahead and play a better game
What terms get used that you can't form a working understanding of within minutes?
L'cie and Fal'cie are used constantly in the beginning of the game and it takes forever for it to be used in any context that can be made sense of
You have enough to understand the basic concept as soon as you make it to Serah and Sazh explains why he wants to shoot her.
>we are reaching the point in the cycle where people are nostalgic for Lightning
I want off this ride
A lot of people have always genuinely loved the FFXIII trilogy. The amount of people I've met with a l'Cie brand tattoo irl is kinda staggering considering how hated it is online.
tbf it's a nice subtle design for a tattoo
People have been trying to Zelda Cycle XIII into actually being le underrated gem ever since XV came out
13 has always had this notable dedicated following, toriyama has injected microchips into people's brains without them noticing.
I actually like Lightning as a character in FFXIII. I think fans treated her unfairly as a clone of Cloud Strife even though they aren't really similar at all beyond being taciturn ex-soldiers (which is applicable to multiple FF protags). She starts of cold and abrasive, sure, but by the end of the game she's quite likable.
For a ff go get positive comments you need to wait 5 years at least
Its the FF cycle
I doubt anyone here has actually played the game recently.
I spent 9 hours playing it yesterday, just got past The Palamecia section and into what hasn't yet been revealed is the Ci'eth pit
Havent played it since 2010ish, m'self
Played it in February while waiting for FF16 to come out. It kinda reminded me of covid and the whole social media push against antivaxxers. Glad I played it after 2020.
I like Snow and Hope.
the only big thing i remember about 13 was that being able to use magic was fun since i didn't have to worry about conserving MP every fight.
just straight blap blap blap every fight fr
It is a well known fact this game is extremely obnoxious with dumping 500 concepts on you right out the gate.
fal'Cie = machine gods
l'Cie = humans who are branded by fal'Cie and forced to fulfill a Vision
Vision = a mission, usually vague
It's not really that complicated, it's explained in-game. The data logs are just for additional lore. I do think the story does a poor job of fully taking advantage of the setting though. You just spend a lot of time running in straight lines and barely interacting with anyone or anything.
The mission is a Focus, they're given a vision of it and left to figure it out
You're right I got the two confused.
>I do think the story does a poor job of fully taking advantage of the setting though. You just spend a lot of time running in straight lines and barely interacting with anyone or anything.
yeah, this is the only problem with the game
the setting is really cool, but they barely even utilized it and felt like such a waste
maybe they were saving it for a sequel and didnt want to utilize all of the setting in one game, but that still sucked
Exploration was compromised by graphical fidelity. In order to make FFXIII look as good as it does the devs had to turn the game into a bunch of tight spaces.
Many aspects of the game that get in the way of that (ie the narrative being focused closely on interpersonal melodrama, or the presentation of protracted fights and cutscenes one after another) predate the conception of the mythology and go back to the original PS2 project's vision of, quote, "interactive Advent Children". What the CT issues really did is make them double down on that direction, because the engine features being developed only as they were requested meant there was absolutely no room to expand the scope mid-development.
Cant quite remember, but Fal'cie good, L'cie bad. Lightning Fal'cie, Serah L'cie. Lightning trying to save Serah, so labled L'cie. Corruption, zealotry, political whatnot. Usual faire, just no overworld anymore
Any love and hate directed to it is totally warranted
Half of this info is wrong. The only Fal'cie that can be considered truly evil is Barthandelus, and that is debatable since Fal'cie morality is different from mortal morality. Both Lightning and Serah were made l'Cie.
The fundamental building blocks of the XIII universe are extremely good, the mythos and structure of its universe is like a mix between FFVI and FFXII.
Sadly, you experience this world through the eyes of the most obnoxious, retarded, moody and downright robotic cast of schizos to grace probably any game.
The pacing of the story is all over the place, the exposition is skipped and shoved into the datalogs in favor of constant BPD meltdowns, literally back to back to back.
It is basically impossible to understand what's going on by just playing as a result.
The focus is entirely on each character's personal flavour of mental illness, and the plot is easily lost.
In short, just skip. It does not get better, not even after the magical 20h mark that XIII apologists keep talking about.
Fantasy XIII is my favorite game
Are XIIIfags still trying to act like it has some deep combat system that you can't just autobattle through?
The actual meat of the combat is paradigm shifting. It's not the deepest system ever but it requires slightly more thought than the ATB games. There's definitely plenty of fights where you have to pay at least some attention.
Despite its shortcomings, I definitely like it more than FFXII's combat. FFXII's combat lacks any kind of extra hook, it's real-time ATB with zero frills.
Paradigms are basically just jobs but with all the fun taken out, and autobattle trivializes the whole thing. Plus the whole thing with only being able to control one party member.
XII has issues too but I can appreciate the gambit system for what it's trying to achieve
>Paradigms are basically just jobs but with all the fun taken out
I don't agree.
Jobs are much more concrete and general, you form a party and then stick with it for a while. Roles are meant to be swapped between constantly during battle and have very specific purposes.
>Ravager: deal damage and increase the stagger meter
>Commando: deal damage and maintain the stagger meter
>Saboteur: debuff the enemy
>Synergist: buff the party
>Medic: heal the party
>Sentinel: protect the party
The depth of the combat comes from creating the right paradigms and swapping between them as needed in order to fight as efficiently as possible (increasing and maintaining the stagger meter while also applying buffs and debuffs and keeping the party alive). In the harder fights you'll have to swap constantly.
Autobattle is essentially filler, if you had to manually input every command every time it would get tedious. Though there are some occasions where you want to use specific commands and can do so. It mainly exists to streamline Ravager since all the elements are interchangable and only weaknesses matter.
Dress spheres were unambiguously a Job System implementation and did much the same things.
You can repeat your last set of actions without auto battle
I'm playing it for the first time as well and up to the final chapter. The game basically dumps you into the middle of chaos and then has flashbacks that explain what the fuck is going on. I'm enjoying it but the last 2/3rd of the game is a slog.
Towards the end of the game it does actually get hard and you have to manually do interrupts, etc.
it's ACTUALLY pretty good...
...but you can spam autobattle and obvious paradigm shifts for everything but the endgame content
You can not. Autobattle will get you fucked by Aster Protoflorian with your crystarium at the cap unless you happened to grind an absurd amount to upgrade your gear as well.
You can, because it's how I beat XIII and XIII-2, the only time I struggled was the final boss of XIII-2
even endgame is autopilot, in fact it's even worse
for endgame bosses and adamantoise hunting my paradigms were all one role only (full defender to absorb big hits, full healer to recover as quickly as possible, full ravager etc...)
only a no crystarium challenge run forces you to think about the roles you need to run and the skills you need to use
How would a no crystarium run even work? You need to use the crystarium to unlock new abilities.
>You need to use the crystarium to unlock new abilities.
you do with the skills each character starts with, forces you to use all of them when needed just like a no sphere grid run in X
there is a good guide on gamefaqs
I would rather watch someone play games on youtube if I had to use shit like this or play on easy.
This is standard for FF games. JRPGers will shill this to oblivion saying it’s immersive because if you were placed in the situation you would be confused.
No way. If this were a standard JRPG Cocoon would be called Elysium and Pulse would be called Tartarus.
how much does the game improve with cheat engine speed hack to turbo up the speed during the boring parts?
The entire game is walk, battle, cutscene.
so a fucking lot? good to know
you described 90% of modern video games
yeah but with a beatiful female protagonist, that part makes it bad
Why couldn't they just use the terms "God", "Servant", "Mission", etc.? Why did they have to throw up some made up bullshit? And why did they have to make that made up bullshit sound completely retarded?
Using the term god would be disastrous as there are at least two levels of god higher than the Fal'cie
Mostly just to seem special (and it's not the first FF to do that, there's like a dozen different names for summons).
Though fal'Cie are not THE gods, they are machines made by gods. You kill the big God in Lightning Returns.
They thought the future of the series was interconnected multimedia projects based on the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII, and to that end created the "Fabula Nova Crystallis" project which would share a "mythology" that was written and designed far in advance of any of the project's games. Japanese media at the time was also going through kind of a phase of nonsense original terminology like that, it's said that the time period was "more chuuni" than usual, and that the pendulum since swang back away from it rapidly.
It doesn't matter that much because the sequel basically only cares about two or three things that happen in the original. The qrd is that Fal'cie choose people to become a l'Cie to do their errands, but because this is a FF made after 6 is not straight forward so the l'Cie have to figure out what the Fal'cie wants. That's the plot for 20-25 hours and then the game itself shits on that.
Just enjoy the wild ride, the gameplay is fine if you treat it as a DMC game but with menus, and don't grind, is not necessary and can potentially ruin your enjoyment if you do it.
Speaking of sequels, is FFXIII-2 worth playing? I sort of liked FFXIII, enough to finish it anyway, and I've heard mixed things about XIII-2. At the very least does it have improved combat?
13-2 is way better and LR is underrated
Wait, people like Lightning Returns? I thought everyone hated it the most of the FFXIII trilogy?
Lightning Returns is garbage, genuinely the worst final fantasy game of all time
>non-International Dirge of Cerberus blocks your path
That's XVI. LR Is kino.
Wrong. LR is terrible
It's by far the best one, people were really sick of Lightning when it came out though
it was also baffling how a universally panned entry and an underperforming sequel managed to get another sequel
gameplay wise it was the best of the trilogy, pretty much the only game with non trivial combat
storywise... ehhh,
is right, most people dont really care about lightning who is such a mary sue that even people who had neutral feelings towards her started getting annoyed
Lightning Returns is okay but it's easily the lowest budget of the three and I'm personally not a fan of timer gimmicks.
I've never met anyone that liked XIII and XIII-2, seems you either think XIII-2 is the only good one in the trilogy or think it's the worst and that Lightning Returns is the best (it is).
The combat is more or less the same. You have two fixed party members and your third is a monster you have to capture. It's also structurally better and has towns and NPCs and actual side content.
However, the story is significantly worse, and none of the above improvements make XIII-2 significantly better than XIII, and LR is worse across the board
The combat is more or less the same but instead of making a party of three dudes choosing from a pool of six, you're stuck with Serah, Noel and whatever Pokémon, I mean, creature you have captured. And yeah, that's also not straight forward, you capture creatures randomly instead of using an equivalent of a PokeBall. Said that, the game gets more challenging so if you are looking for a JRPG that actually offers a decent challenge without going for a weeb dungeon crawler, is a nice option.
The story gets way more convoluted but at the end has a better payoff than the original game.
LR is also pretty cool and underrated.
Honestly the XIII trilogy as games are not bad, they are great even but because they're labeled as FF games people expected too much from the story and lore.
>but because they're labeled as FF games people expected too much from the story and lore.
The FNC "lore" was what they invested the most into besides overall CT development, so that's kind of a damning indictment.
Yeah, I agree but this is not 2010 anymore. The only one that probably still cares about all the marketing FNC got is Toriyama and that's only because he lived the dream of watching his waifu to try different clothes for him. At least we never got an cutscene where his self insert fucks Lighting.
>and the plot shits on that
i always assumed barthandelus was unique among fal'cies in his ability to talk to people. even orphan only speaks when fused with him iirc
yeah it fits with the rest of their situation that they'd only have enough abilities to fulfill their role. a battery or a hydroponic farm doesn't need to have a human guise and communicate directly
do you really need to understand anything? just enjoy Claire's company, anon
Say what you will about FFXIII, but I think it was the last FF game with interesting character designs. Modern FF character are so fucking bland.
>They really took 0 time to explain anything about the games world.
you're supposed to read the codex or whatever it's called in this game, and yes it's clearly a failure that a game with as many cutscenes as 13 can't convey all its lore and worldbuilding through them and has to do it through an encyclopedia
but even then, really the only important terms are fal'cie and l'cie
>but even then, really the only important terms are fal'cie and l'cie
it's also important to differentiate between the Pulse and Cocoon versions of both, which is why the meme line is repeated so often after they're branded
The only things you need the codec to learn are things that were intended to come up in the rest of the Fabula Nova Chrystallis series, nothing important within 13 requires opening that part of the menu.
I find Barthandelus to be one of the more compelling FF villains. Beyond the cool design, his motivations are at least somewhat sympathetic. Given sentience but no free will, doomed to serve the whims of humanity for eternity. Meanwhile humans squander their free will by living in a state of fear of outsiders that leads to things like the Purge. It's understandable why he wants humanity destroyed and the rest of Cocoon's Fal'cie free from their servitude.
the idea of the fal'cie and the silent god themes of the game are really good imo, maybe not used to their fullest potential but interesting.
That's FFXIII in a nutshell really. Interesting ideas, poor execution.
yeah pretty much, interesting ideas, great art design, really mixed execution. imagine a world where square didn't fuck up all their internal productions in a giant cascade
I love Barthandelus solely because he makes Snow look like a retard in front of all his peers for seemingly thinking that Serah had a say in what her focus was
i bought this game when it came out on the 360, i thought it would be awesome because of the graphics.
but all i had to do to progress was repeatedly press a so i sold it pretty quick, never beat it
>l'cie
>fool'cie
>oooga booga'cie
>mu crystals
>e m o t i o n s
>*cries*
>pulsating cocoon
>contrived reason to be upset
>upset/feeling guilty for no reason
>random asshole appears in hallway, talks about something something l'cie & penis
l'cie/10 would never play again
this game has such a great setting but it is so badly utilized
the first few hours feel like a drag and when things start to get interesting you realize you are already more than halfway into the game
it is very linear and story driven, doesnt allow players to see what the worlds of cocoon and pulse have to offer besides the story
Will they ever do a FF13-4? It's the most memorable FF after 7 imo.
i would kneel to toriyama eternally if they somehow ended up making a fourth game, imagine
Put as diplomatically as possible: never. The trilogy torpedoing Fabula Nova Crystalis has remained a sore spot for many SE higher ups since. Even if they were to continue dipping into revivals, X-3 remains both the most internally considered and externally demanded.
FNC was doa no matter what with how fucked up the rest of their productions were
I'm surprised they haven't at least re-released the original trilogy on modern systems.
They sort of have. The 360 version is enhanced on SeX and Xbox One. On PC you can play 4k 60fps. There are also mods to uprez the FMV and models/textures. Tbh, it still looks pretty good on PC with the base game.
>Tbh, it still looks pretty good on PC with the base game.
FFXIII is legit a fantastic looking game, especially considering its age. I feel like even XIII haters would concede on this point.
that I can agree, the graphics are still holding up well for a 360/PS3 game with non stylized graphics but with all the money and devtime that went into crystal tools that was the least it could do
back then FF still had the reputation of pushing graphics forward
Agreed, base game looks great on pc.
FFXIII but have been nothing but corridors, but damn were they some pretty corridors.
No, but toriyama is remastering all the games in trilogy with new content and It will come out next year.
Most of the story happens in the datalogs you access from the menu. I'm not kidding.
Datalog is just lore and recap. What are you even talking about
You barely even know what the purge is about without reading logs.
The purge literately gets explained in one of the FMVs.
Or you could listen when characters mention that it's all happening because of the Pulse Fal'cie or when Yaag Rosch later explains that every trace of Pulse must be purged so the people can sleep at night because it's the citizens of Cocoon that really demand the Purge rather than it coming from the Sanctum. There are about 6 scenes that plainly spell out the ideas behind the Purge dude
What about the logo?
What part of the game/history is that?
It's taken from the final scene of the game where Vanille and Fang envelop Cocoon in crystal to stop it from being destroyed from plunging into Pulse. It also resembles Serah and Snow's engagement necklaces, but that's kind of a red herring.
I'm sick of 13 being pidgeon holed as bad because it's hard to keep up or the game doesn't tell you anything.
Where has the ability to make guesses or think on what is put before you? The game, multiple times, explains parts of it's plot and lore clearly for anyone who actually listens.
It's just unfair to this game. There's people I've met and spoken to that refuse to play 13 or even think on it because of everything youtubers said 15 years ago. The worst thing the game has against it is how it was designed making it very linear. Other problems are stuff like the equipment upgrading or the levelling system being annoying.
But no. The characters are bad and the world is bad and it's the worst thing ever made.
There are many reasons why XIII is terrible. It's obtusely told story is just one of them
FF13 is absolutely horrendous with the proper noun spam.
don't worry neither did the devs
that's what the datalogs are for
Who is the hardest secret boss in this game? Like Ozma in ff9...
Vercingetorix, some random Cie'th from the last stele mission
>FF13 thread
Gentle reminder
remind about what
that she was a wasted character?
Correct.
Was she that wasted? What little of her there was wasn't very good, I'll take a nothing character over a bad character. Snow and Hope could have stood to be more like her in that regard.
Oh yeah, I think I remember seeing her in the game
VIII, X and XIII were made by the same team. The following are my opinions:
VIII half asses the execution of everything it tries to do but at least it has a lot of soul.
X is the best or among the best of the numbered games in almost every category, except the exploration
XIII is drizzling shit.
So why did XIII turn out this way?
People are gonna laugh at me, but I think Kitase kept them in check. The issue is, why did he become such a hack after becoming the producer?
Lewd the Lightning
built for sex
kuudere wife...
don't get monkey paw'd by the idea of a Lightning wife, it looks great but then it's all "worst birthday ever" and "get out of my house"
kuudere wife that actually just doesn't like you...
she's not wrong, a lady that fine is way too high above me
This thread is from 2013. Theres no way dude. Were you in prison or under a rock for 10 years???
Plot is complete dogshit even if you understand.
The combat system never felt like it was doing what they wanted it to until the XIII-2 dlc fights against Caius
>Europoor hours
>Positive 13 thread
Either /ffg/ is leaking or Europoors really do have have the worst FF tastes.
>Has yet to be refuted
>can't pick up from a few lines of context that a Fal'cie is a machine god and a l'cie is their chosen champion
Honestly the absolute state of 13 critics lmao. Also Rosch is one of the most underrated characters in FF.
Champion might be a bit grandiose. More of a gopher, really. It's very rare that one gets a task as important as Ragnarok.
I had no fucking clue what was going on until hours into it. Honestly, though, I loved how "out there" this world was. It's utterly insane the concepts they just throw at people indiscriminately.
The story does all click at a few key moments. I found myself genuinely liking Lighting by the end of it after finding her unbearable at the beginning.
When l'cie complete their focus they turn into cool looking crystal statues and they get to do a stylish pose first and stuff so why does Dajh just look like someone embedded in a block of ice?
I think the biggest problem with 13 isn't the linearity or the dumbfuck terminology, but the fact that the party has no real mission or goal they're trying to accomplish. The plot is completely directionless for huge chunks. Some of the party members have personal motivations, but as a whole the team doesn't have any kind of mission or objective that they're aiming towards. Sometimes you get a short-term goal, like busting Sazh and Vanille out of prison, but for most of the game you're just fighting battles and running towards the marker on the minimap for no reason other than because you know you need to in order to advance the game. Even times when the party does have an objective, it's usually something fucking stupid, like "run through this ark so we can get stronger because that's what it's there for" or "let's walk halfway around the world to Vanille's village because maybe someone there knows something idk." It isn't until the very end of the game when the party decides that Bart needs to die that you actually have a real purpose.
That lack of direction compounds with the extremely linearity, the total lack of side activities (outside of the hunts, which still mainly consist of just running towards an objective marker and fighting a battle), the Cocoon areas being completely disconnected like Sonic the Hedgehog zones instead of actual places in a larger world, and the slow pace at which the game ramps up the combat complexity to make the whole experience feel extremely tedious. Just an endless slog of running past pretty but vapid wallpaper to the next random battle and occasionally a pointless cutscene, with no end in sight, no sense that you're making any kind of progress, not even a clear understanding of why you should be running that way instead of any other. Just hallways, repetitive battles, and characters talking about their mostly retarded feelings
I still kinda like it though, enough to beat it twice and 5-star every mission
Aren't they trying to make it to Hope's dad's house for most of the Cocoon segments? Seems like a straightforward goal to me.
The party had pretty clear goals until they were reunited, they're all too different as people to accept them all wanting the same thing beyond "don't turn into a monster"
Lightning has decided to fight the Sanctum which would take her through Palumpolum which Hope leverages to get her to take him along with her, he just wants to get strong enough to kill Snow. Snow wants to save everyone and everything but his goals don't really matter, he was kinda kidnapped. Fang wants to find Vanille so she's tracking the party hoping to find her with them, this leads to all 4 meeting up and visiting Hope's dad Bart.
Sazh and Vanille just want to bail, both kinda want to die.
stop pretending that XIII trilogy was the worst of FF when FFXIV 1.0 and vanilla FFXV exist
>XIII – 7/10
>XIII-2 – 8/10
>LR – 7.5/10
>XIV 1.0 – 4/10
>vanilla XV – 6/10
There was never any point in time when XV was worse than a XIII game.
XIII is also worse than II
13 is and always was completely fine. The only non-MMO numbered entry worse than 15 was 8.
XV is a mediocre game, only slightly worse than XII
XIII is actively terrible with the graphics being the only redeeming factor. Everything else is awful
No.
Yes.
The music is largely forgettable
The characters are awful
The story is painfully dull once you get past the retarded terms
The combat is auto battle spam
No towns
No NPCs
The only side content is refighting enemies with a new colour
Hallways
13 is the second best FF after 12.
2,3,4,8,10, and 15 suck
Back in June I downloaded 90gb of HD/4K cinematics as well as HD models for the game and I regretted doing so an hour in. This was even after I used the tweaker mod to make a "Hard Mode".
DAYS of dumbfuck rate limiting NexusMods because mod uploader didn't put the cutscenes up elsewhere.
I thought maybe 10+ years later my eyes would've opened up and I'd enjoy the game but no. I'm considering just watching a "movie" on YT and playing the other two games in the series. I heard LR combat is sweet.
LR combat is good but 13 has the best combat of the trilogy.
Everything made by japs starts in media res, if you haven't noticed yet
>9 and 10 in s tier
obvious brainlet
>FFXVI in A Tier
It was all worth it for FF13-2. After that you can drop the series entirely
I like that FF13 didn't have superfluous expository dialogue. Why would the characters in the game need shit explained to them? They already know.
Because 2 are foreign devils from hundreds of years in the past, one is a child and another is an actual retarded person that formed a gang to stick it to the adults despite being like 26. Lightning and Sazh don't need explanations, sure.
you're going to make it to the open world by hour 35, and think to yourself,
>holy FUCK i dont even know what the random NPCs are going on about
>I know I have quests and can go wherever
>but FUCK this game is a turdslog holy shit
Just stop now. Trust me. You won't lose anything by dropping this piece of shit.