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it's extremely depressing that the pvp in these games always become some extremely boring metaslave shit, but they kinda did it right with bloodborne where weapons were pretty much good across the board
not all of them, but it wasn't all about using pointy dildos to shove up each other's asses like in elden ring where it's small dildo rapier, big dildo great rapier, giga dildo great lance or double pleasure extra pointy double lance crouch poke attack
BB had less weapons. Easier to balance, less build diversity though.
Things were the best in DaS II when dodge was just less broken so there was less an obsession with how to get an easy hit in.
>less build diversity though
What’s the point of build diversity if only a couple of them are good
In an ideal world the bridge between meta slavery and "slightly worse" would allow people to use that diversity.
Literally a few things need to be nerfed into the ground to fix Elden Ring, starting with the unironic invincibility button that is Bloodhound step, followed by severely nerfing Fingerprints stability in pvp.
Multiple hitbox nerfs to thrusting weapons. Moonveil could either use a damage reduction or a speed reduction. I vote for speed, its menace is a result of it being a le sip punisher and the only effective one in the game.
Not sure if you're aware, but BHS and Fingerprint Shield have been nerfed (unless you want them to be further nerfed).
Moonveil also got nerfed, but hust to its posture damage IIRC
Easier to lure newfriends with promises of build diversity so OP has more victims with their metahomosexualry tool of a build.
Gotta love how they still made invasions optional and about 90% of the former invader playerbase cried till they shat themselves about it.
ACkSHULLY The Fingerprint turtle is a duelist meta homosexual.
You don't see these guys invade, because the turtle cannot hold well against all the phantoms and such a build usually doesn't carry the aoe needed.
Printshield homosexuals are exclusively a "I know guys love to show off build designs in dueling so here I am to receive your hate mail" type build.
>Things were the best in DaS II
the game with ass-faced havel monster abusing dual spears and phantom range?
sire stamina mattered but everything else was miserable
>they kinda did it right with bloodborne where weapons were pretty much good across the board
BB PvP was just getting one-hit from a mile away by any bloodtinge user with a better connection than you
t. never played it
>get invaded shadow the edgehog
>defeat the threat of his gun with the incredibly advanced tactic of just walking around unlocked
>he l1s his blood katana constantly as if that's not just telling me when he's going to move in
>poot him with the flamesprayer every time he gets close forcing him to back off and heal
>eventually after whole SECONDS of this song and dance being repeated his ADHD can't take it any more and he engages samurai mode and tries to r1 spam me to death
>kill him with 1 augur of ebrietas
This didn't happen once this is how it went down every single time
Dont forget moonveil
Every Faith user just needs to carry Barrier of gold and the mooBlack folk will eventually give up.
Not everybody is a faith user and you still need to casts barrier of gold and in that time you can easily catch a moonveil projectile
True, but it's a counter that really fricks them up. and accessible to a huge chunk of players. Not saying Moonveil doesn't deserve to be nerfed.
can't do much for the time problem, but crimsonwhorl bubbletear if you're a lategame character or twink.
Hopefully you can end the fight before the effect runs out, it only lasts what, 10 seconds?
>law of regression
get fricked
>Bloodborne
>Have to farm fricking gems or else you do no damage
There's a reason BB's PvP scene was non-existent
nips cant into netcode, so the pvp in these games have always been trash
>metaslave
Only if you're a homosexual that sticks to the meta like some kind of moron.
Try playing at a different level outside of arenas and duel club circlejerks for once.
BB was the absolute worst. You had to farm FRC depth 5 chalice dungeons to compete in the boring minmaxed metashit and even then you'd get quickscoped from across the map by BLT builds. DS2 and DS3 were the closest to being functional PvP games.
>minmaxed metashit
Why even bother? It's going to be shit no matter what. For example
>DS2
You are a dumb Black person too stupid to remember the minmaxed metashit homosexualry that was turtlehavels dual-wielding the longest reach halberds stacking every buff spell possible.
>replay DS2 after many years
>remember having fun trying to make it through the belfrys
>go there
>the only people left playing pvp are metaBlack folk who will wait for you on top of the stairs for 2 hours because they already spent 6 hours waiting for someone else to play the game
>heavy thrusting weapon
"Okay, metaslave"
>Has a gold flag in the colosseum
He has his glory and the hatemail to prove it though.
>hey I win fights with meta builds haha bet you're feeling silly now haha u gonna cry?
Of laughter.
But like, you can't beat him so how can you enjoy pvp? If you block him it's just a concession. He's tallying the number of blocks, because he's the best.
yeah, tears of laughter, sure thing buddy.
>kills you, again
I never ran into this kind of player because after dicking around in Liurnia I exclusively invaded areas with annoying enemies and environmental hazards out the ass. My friends who went to "dueling hotspots" b***hed about this kind of thing constantly though.
Ok
who the hell are you?
Don't use Barrier of Gold, Ok?
>not countering with a cheeky Law of Regression
wouldn't last an hour in the garden
Garden post-remaster was just backstab fishing and exploit 'tech' abusers. Would honestly take metaslavery over homosexuals abusing glitches.
see? not even 5 fights.
>implying it's not literally the exact same post-remaster as it was pre-remaster
Reminder that during the days of DS1 - both before and after the PC launch - you were actively shunned in Ganker and /vg/ threads if you weren't a glitch-abusing metaslave.
I played DS1 on console release date and this is bullshit.
We were angry at meta tranquil walk of peace before it got nerfed because it wasn’t fun.
You talk like you weren’t there gayboy.
This
The heavy armor designs in this game were such a disappointment.
What the hell is that on your chest?
I stare mindlessly at your corpse dust floating towards the erdtree
Cute but Bloody Helice is not a meta weapon because of its susceptibility to parry.
I havent played ER since a month after its release so I dont know shit thought that was the weapon in OP's pic
I've killed a million just like you, OP.
your skill comes from the build
go play fighting games if you enjoy skill based combat
Nothing personell, invader noob.
Have you tried invading? I think youd be really good anon. pls post clips 🙂
Why would I be an Invader noob.
ive killed you 2 a few times, post the webms of that
No you didn't because we never died. You can post webms of these supposed deaths though, I welcome this apparent evidence.
Invader noobs lie all the time. Feels good man.
why are you lying? post the webms, come on dude why are you afraid of admitting it?
Heh, typical lying invader noobs.
I welcome your apparent evidence still 🙂
>I welcome your apparent evidence still 🙂
You're the one recording everything. Post those WEBMs.
It's okay to lose invader noob 🙂
>It's okay to lose
right, so swallow your pride and just admit that ive killed you a few times bro its okay, weve all lost a couple of times now and then bro dont sweat it
Why are you doing level 400+ password summoning against people who are obviously not level 400+ themselves? Like, if all you want is the W, I'm sure you're getting that, but it doesn't feel like you even have to try at that point because the downscaling more or less doesn't work. That's bestial sling hitting for over 400 without standing in the sweet spot to get the double hit (unless this is prior to the patch that shortened it). You have more FP than any character I've ever brought to Radagon, even in NG+. Like... you don't really have to play anymore. The kills are free. Is that fun for you? Not trying to shame, just genuinely fascinated.
come on bro just swallow your pride
wow ez reply
This is the only time I was ever close to dying. And it was an npc lmao
>This is the only time I was ever close to dying
well yeah because when i killed you you died, you werent close to dying
its ok bro just post the webms
suddenly you have nothing to say, perhaps its because the liar feels shame? post the webms bro its ok everyone is eager to see them
concession accepted
i truly am the better player 😀
formerly alive
Bahahahahahahaha
was that a fricking anon?
>Formerly Chuck's
He was 100% a fricking anon. And he rage quit. LMAO
I killed a few obvious anons, though it's hard to find all the videos. There was a lot.
>hurr durr invader noob
Invading is harder, moron. You're the "noob" too cowardly to be on the harder side and boasting about your victories on the easy side
salty invader
its alright, take solace in the fact that ive killed this dude & his pal more than the amount of times hes posted in this thread. curious that he didn't record those deaths though, really makes you think!
bahahaha the seethe from a dude unironically baiting you
homie these guys used to be invaders until 3 made it harder to win effortlessly
It's actually a shitposter from /vg/. They made these simply to shitpost just for (You)'s and it works every single time. You can archive these pictures on /vg/ and see them posting them from months ago baiting anons.
ive killed them plenty, they 100% have footage of it and won't post it, its easy to bait them back for (you)s. feel free to inquire about them!
okay, im not talking about your discord pals. i mean co-op gankers in general, theyre all ex-invaders or, worse still, people who watched pyrocynical gank montages.
Mr response is to rape his ass and then point down as he dies.
I’m better at the game than he is and I know it, because I regularly beat metagays like this with my lvl 20. They use RoB, Moonveil, etc as a crutch which genuinely makes them sloppy.
That's not a RoB user or a moonveil user. Everyone knows moonveil is just a "Pray they don't have barrier of gold" kind of meta build and RoB got nerfed so badly only people who really like it still use it.
That in the OP is a fingerprint spear turtle Black person. Your only hope of beating him is using a high poise weapon with the mace talisman and then hoping he isn't just going to switch to his blood hound step offhand and just troll float around you for a bit as you tire yourself out.
Godskin Stitcher. Bloody Helice is deep Arcane and not perfectly suited for the task of the finger turtle homosexual. I've never actually seen someone who uses helice with a great shield
Any good Thrusting weapon works for the turtle homosexual.
*Ahem*
>switches to first
>L2
>kick
>guardbroken metaBlack person
>riposte
Do people actually play fromsoft games joke "pvp" as some kind of serious business esports? That shit literally always boils down to abuse of few broken mechanics or marginal gameplay aspects. Last time I saw ER pvp discussion, people were talking about how quickly swapping weapons from inventory is most important skill in the whole game. Whole thing is fricking disregarded by developers as meme minigame slapped on top of product with no particular effort, I don't even want to think about who would invest their own time and effort into it.
>Do people actually play fromsoft pvp as an e-sport
People like the idea of coming up with builds and throwing them at each other. It's the same reason people got into MMO pvp.
The salt comes from the realization that not everyone is interested in just fighting with what they want, they're interested in winning at any cost.
Surely, over time, you just get completely sick of such people.
Besides, it's a problem I've noticed with every game in general, even TCGs. Everyone loves the idea of them but the human endeavor to win leads to the games suffocating under their own design flaws.
Some devs actually do accomplish a healthy game state, but in the end the meta is the meta and someone has basically "solved" your game, published it for thousands of morons and the delusion of creativity, strategy and skill are lost to a sterile cold formula that proves that "This is how you'll win".
That's why I kill invader noobs all day long.
It's for when people want something more out of the game. Issue is autists take it too far and the mindset of said pvptard is completely seeped into their identity that they dont have any other way of having fun or with any other game.
It was a 'semi-fun' minigame back in the day where you'd knock people off the bridges on Latria 2 in DeS with Stormruler, or put items on ledges as bait in Sen's Fortress then shoot people off with greatbows.
Souls PvP found its 'niche' with people who are too bad to play proper competitive genres but managed to succeed due to its jank or RPG mechanics. Think being a big fish in a small pond.
There aren't a lot of games where you can turn the character your were making in an adventure rpg into something that can compete.
>I look down on others for being better than me at things
Yes of course, you don't want those grapes anyway, they are sour and unripe
I'll have you know Anon, I am the fastest in my town at picking lint out of my bellybutton. So sour grapes indeed!
>replying AND doubling down
ego status: paper thin as expected
Yeah, they should totally remove that feature of the game just so some noobz can feel better about themselves.
The pvp and multiplayer aspect of the game is just a hook to make consoletards see the "YOU MUST HAVE XBOX GOLD/PLAYSTATION PLUS" and hand over their credit card to microsoft/sony. It does absolutely nothing to make the game better in any way.
>But...atleast idont have HAX....and its dedicated...
why you homies still playing this game kek
you can play other shit you don't gotta dedicate your entire life to Elden Ring ffs
Draw your sword, motherfricker.
Hammer Talisman
Fist R2
Misericorde
Point down and shitpot
>equip starfists
>buff with flame and bloodflame
>repedearly punch him until and roll until his stamina runs out
>repeat
Easy peasy
He has a parry shield in his offhand.
he wont land it
Parry+Riposte
gg no re
>>I'm better than you
>implying that's an accomplishment
>Pro Souls PvPer.
More like
>I am better at picking lint out of my bellybutton than you.
bro taking shitting dick nipples to a new level
I point down
I can't really find much enjoyment with PVPing in these games, I tend to only go for invasions and arena dueling but invasions are practically dead in ER now sadly, and duels are just mildly annoying. Too many builds centered around 1-2 hit kills. Mine included, I power stance greatswords for massive hits. This fricking sucks ass in pvp btw, don't use it, I just only use it cause I think it's fun but it's so trash, I maybe win 10% of my duels.
I'm looking forward to Armored Core because that game has no healing, no swapping equipment from your inventory mid fights and no stupid stat bullshit where you have to respec/have multiple characters for specific builds. Just swap out parts and get out there.
then i reminds myself AC6 will continue to use from's horrible netcode and any idea of a fair feeling fight is out the window
You re gonna have missiles hell stunlocking you and breaking your stance and anus
I don't respond.
The "you" here implies he seeks a second person response to validate his case.
No need to say anything.
Unless the guy's sitting right next to me irl, I treat every digital interaction as a bot.
>really liked pvp back in DS1 a decade ago
>played a bit of pvp in 2, 3 and the remaster
>didn't even bother with it in Bloodborne and ER
It's just not the same
I actually remember ds1 pvp being some of the worst in the series as it was just lagstepping backstab fishers that flipped around like ninjas in full havels.
I dont use heavy armor like you pussy the shield is enough
*hardswaps to a meta setup*
I don't give a damn about PvP in these games. Whenever I am getting invaded I pull the ethernet cable out and that solves the problem.
Frick these tryhards.
pussy
don't forget to change your tampon anon
I was playing PvP on the ps4 on launch before I switched to pc as a faith/strength build with a godskin stitcher and the erdtree greatshild and the beast seal. Was it meta then? I just picked it because it was fun
I think Elden ring's lore was written using ChatGPT prompts.
Yes vyke shit lore doesnt make sense he got far with no runes and the intro already said the rune shards amd the convoluted japane timefrickery doesnt work
>Strip out as many options as possible and center your PvP fixation exclusively on no heal duels at a fixed level range
>Complain when a meta emerges
Just engage with the pvp system the way it was designed for, ad-hoc invasions, instead of doing what some reddit and youtube homosexuals tell you is the "popular" thing to do. Suddenly every other character building option is available to you.
how can you dudes take this shit seriously when the netcode is truly awful. You're no different from people mashing in Smash Ultimate
NIHIL
I keep seeing people with gigantic health pools, is this mostly for PvP? I've not had to upgrade my vigor at all yet, beat Queen Rennala yesterday. Always felt like too much HP trivialised the game.
why do these max poise meta homosexuals think light roll is so OP? Because it get's you out of their moronic rollcatch vortex?
Iv'e yet to see one actual demonstration on what makes it so broke. Annoying maybe but not broken.
It's ironic too because they're always runn dual lance rot rapier ect with like 80+ poise.
It's not broken but it is good and has helped me a lot in PvE.
It's good mostly because the game doesn't really account for its new buffs, everything is designed to catch and punish midrolls. Malenia's double-slash gap closer is easily evaded with it.
dual lance is NOT broken
jumping attacks are NOT broken
hardswapping into an unpredictable parry is NOT broken
shit that counters me is broken
As far as PvP is conerned, no weapon really has the reach AND recovery to punish a light roll if used properly. It makes it harder to create openings that do meaningful damage. I think it's a decent trade-off for having to go either super hard on endurance or really low on damage reduction (sub-15%).
>no weapon really has the reach AND recovery to punish a light roll if used properly
you say this but it's not really true. a lot of weapons can catch at least 1 light roll. if they miss the first roll catch then you're out though. B
eing able to escape pressure easier is the tradeoff for taking more damage per hit. I don't see how people don't get this.
I'm better than me, too
>*takes out scythe*
psh nothing personal kid
>*does 500 damage through your block*
Blocking isn't really an issue these days. It's been pretty heavily nerfed.
I love the Grave Scythe. Muh bloodborne cosplay.
>shitting dicknipples