I'm playing against mohg now on a low level character that gets 80% of the lifebar deleted by most attacks and it is making me really wonder about the encounter design of this game. I really don't get where the game wants you to go as a player. The attack patterns randomly punish. Is it supposed to be just instinctual gameplay with a large pool of health so you can survive getting fucked over
by a bullshit attack?
>fight endgame boss with low level stats
>it's difficult
wow
Sorry Traveller, my bosses are too strong for you.
I recommend an easier game that has weaker bosses
acquire skill
muster proficiency
summon efficacy
achieve competence
If you're not getting one shot, the fight is not hard.
cultivate mastery
extapolate expertise
develop technique
just kill him before he goes into second phase lol
transcend mediocrity
Mogh has one of the most comprehensive movesets on the game, with just a few extensions and delays to catch up instinct players. Just keep close to him t avoid the bloodpools and you can eventually beat the fight.
If you are having trouble just get the nihil stopping tear
Scrounge up skill
You can literally youtube search and find ppl doing him RL1 with every starting weapon in the game with them only upgraded to +8 or some shit.
So it's very doable, but doing it on your own will take a bunch of time to master.
stop being shit
you just suck inbred cuck
You're supposed to die dozens of times until you know his moveset better than the alphabet. They think it's fun.
>he's this bad at games
I got him fairly early but when I beat Malenia I uninstalled the game and never looked back. This is the last From Software game I ever play unless they decide to invest in better combat design.
But Malenia is a good fight.
It's a good fight if you never played a game with good combat or of you like to cheese bosses without activating a single neuron in your brain.
>he got filtered
Filtered by the taste of shit after I ate the whole meal, yeah. Enjoy your seconds, coprophage.
>he actually ate the poopoo
lmoa
They make the best combat of all devs though
Sorry about your retarded brain man
>You're supposed to die dozens of times until you know his moveset better than the alphabet. They think it's fun.
Yes, it is.
Thats not how these games work. You can just dodge with skill acquired earlier in the game or in the previous games, and first try any boss.
I know you can get to him early but he's supposed to be fought around when you fight Malenia or at Farum Azula. You might have been mislead by this game feeling and looking like dark souls where it wasn't that difficult to push above your weight, but this is by far the most punishing game for anyone trying to do SL1 run since ds2 dlcs, the scaling is absolutely brutal, towards later areas you are basically REQUIRED to have 40+ vig.
If you're doing a challenge run, just keep trying. You'll do it eventually, I've done it at SL1. Yeah it's not fun.
If you just want his gear early, use Tyche and bleed, respecc to a one shot glass canon comet azur build or something like that.
If you're just struggling normally, come back when you are level 130. Also don't forget to level vig. It's not an option anymore, it's a tax. Softcap is 60 but often 50 is enough.
It's an RPG with stats that can be upgraded. If you feel too squishy, why the fuck are you not upgrading your health and/or defensive gear?
elden ring is the simplest lvl1 run of any of the souls games.
Not true even if you don't do all bosses.
Not that anon but it's beyond simple. You just do a quick collect-a-thon to get the Talismans/Mystick to equip the death poker then proceed to whip the games ass with almost no effort.
i don't know what patch you played but it was a absolute joke 3 weeks after launch.
Yes
Believe it or not Fromsoftware design philosophy is that the player keeps making progress in every way possible
They don’t intend for you to never level up, or to stop at some self imposed “meta level” (looking at you pvpfags)
You’re supposed to be just as strong if not stronger than this hiv positive blood slinging mutant which does indeed include having a large health pool to tank his bullshit
Fromdrones are just addled and don’t understand why systems like soul memory were included to prevent retarded ideas like low level play throughs and meta kneecapping but here we are
Are you doing a challenge run, or did you get there via Varre's quest early?
If it's the latter, you're not supposed to be ready to fight him, yet.
Gitting gud at Sekiro has made me want to go back and try Elden ring without summons
I remember i fought him right after doing Vaare quest (offline) with Eleonora's blade. I really liked him, one of the best bosses in ER, no bullshit one-shots, stable camera, big arena, but at the same time he's strong and hard. Him and Plasidusax are the best bosses in ER in my opinion.
Placidusax spends the latter half of the fight teleporting away the second you hit him once. Absolutely horrid fight.
Yeah, but you don't have to tickle his legs like any other dragon in the game.
>he doesn't do jumping strong attacks against their head
The best way to fight Midir is to attack his head, he takes reduced damage on the rest of his body.
Different game bro
the only things that makes Midir "hard" is his massive health pool and huge resistance to everything other than lightning. The dragons in ER actually have movesets
I'd say Mohg is a pretty fair boss. You can dodge and strafe most of his attacks, only thing you have to watch out for is the blood.
Running into him in the sewers was probably my favorite experience in Elden Ring. A completely optional huge area that leads to a secret area that has a whole-ass boss with an incredible design and theme. It's slightly less special now knowing that he's just a copy of the first phase of the actual Mohg fight, but it was very cool at the time.
become better
you just suck, I beat him at level 60 and had zero issues
Apparently he’s one of the best bosses but I was overlevelled by the time I discovered him 🙁
>Apparently he’s one of the best bosses but I was overlevelled by the time I discovered him 🙁
you missed out unfortunately, he's insanely fun to fight around mid-game. Ended up finding him around RL60-70 and had a blast taking him down
Did you get there through the Varre quest? I was like lvl 125 by the time I reached the consecrated snowfields on a second playthrough where I ignored all side content. On my initial playthrough, I was like 200+.
>200+
Fucking actually how. I did nearly every dungeon and capped out around 150.
I just never lose runes and only use 1 or 2 weapons the whole game through.
Also no magic or ashes, don't know what other big money sinks there are, cause I've never used it.
Same here I even used the damned scarab for the latter 1/3rd of the game. Bosses only give maybe a level or two once you hit 130+ and there just aren't that many once you get passed the capital. You had to have grinded or something.
I literally played almost all side content. You know how big the game is? 125 was my level when I did no side content.
Okay, shit correction. I just checked my saves. My initial character is only 175 after I finished the game. I guess I was around 160 when I got there.
Malenia gives around 600k runes, and to level up from 200 to 201 you need 300k runes.
Didn't end up in the haligtree first playthrough, even still that's only a few levels accounted for
That makes much more sense. Knew 200+ was too much.
>Did you get there through the Varre quest?
ye, you can end up stumbling in there around RL 40-50 if you do his quest as soon as you're able. Earliest way to get the highest level smithing stone too from what I can remember
If you are overleveled for Mohg you are overleveled for the entire game.
I'm wondering about the insane health requirements, every other souls I would level my vigor to 20 and be fine until endgame, but ER pretty much forces you to invest at least 40 as soon as possible
You're meant to abuse the following to win
-Easy chugs
-Op spells
-Op ashes
-Spirit Summons
-iframes
Properly learning the fight is entirely a matter of pointless and timewasting trial & error, and unless you're a neet autist you can't afford that
>I made the game hard for myself for no reason, why is it hard?
yep, it's boss time
So let me get this right
You intentionally chose to keep your character level low, went to top 3 hardest boss in the games endgame, in a game where people do runs where they don't get hit a single time... And you are seething and blaming the game for your being dogshit at it?
self awareness is not Ganker's strong suit
There are hitless RL1 runs that kill mohg. If you can't figure out how to do it, look up a video.
>read a guide
The absolute STATE of redditors
He's literally too retarded to figure out himself how to fight Mohg hitless as a low level character. The only options are leveling up (which he doesn't wanna do) or look up how someone more skilled does it.
I actually agree with you OP. Elden Ring has the worst damage values of any souls game by far. Every boss halfway through the game just flat out does too much damage, it’s not an interesting or engaging challenge to raise your VIT. And honestly it would be fine if they also weren’t by far the hardest bosses in fromsoft games, their move sets are so bat shit insane at times it makes you wonder how exactly Fromsoft intended the average player to beat the game if not for the copious amount of “ez mode” shit that’s in the games.
It falls somewhere in between pretty easy and a brutal unfun challenge and that sweet spot I think the other games found is so rare in Elden Ring. It’s still one of my favorite games ever made but balance is probably my biggest issue.
A couple days ago I rewatched my Mohg kill and was reminded how he's definitely the most fun I've had with a Souls boss. I also enjoyed how he made me change my setup a bit (had to switch from my darkflame weapon to holy, had to cast fire resistance miracle) since it highlights the RPG part of the action RPG.
Oh, i remember i've killed sewers Mogh with blackflame orb, and only after i looked up his 80% fire resistance. % DoT is supergood in ER.