I'm really sensitive to input lag and have been emulating many retrogames on a PC, using a wired controller with a 144hz gaming monitor.

I'm really sensitive to input lag and have been emulating many retrogames on a PC, using a wired controller with a 144hz gaming monitor.
Are there any among you who aren't obese, brain-fogged, cheese-gobbling creatures who know what its like to be healthy? If so, can tell me how the steam deck is for emulation. I assume I have to go through retro arch. Please, only respond if you have experienced original hardware or close to it.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Real hardware and CRT buddy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fpbp. Shills will disagree.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/iLFu4Na.jpg

        I'm really sensitive to input lag and have been emulating many retrogames on a PC, using a wired controller with a 144hz gaming monitor.
        Are there any among you who aren't obese, brain-fogged, cheese-gobbling creatures who know what its like to be healthy? If so, can tell me how the steam deck is for emulation. I assume I have to go through retro arch. Please, only respond if you have experienced original hardware or close to it.

        Wrong board

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fpbp. Shills will disagree.

      You all have autism. Different kinds but holy shit.

      Any input lag is unacceptable.

      Every mouse, keyboard, console, emulator, receiver, etc.... all have input lag of varying amounts. Yes even your SNES has several "frames" worth of delay before it reaches the output headed to the CRT.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wrong

        most modern flatpanel consumer televisions are ass for gaming

        https://displaylag.com/display-database/

        https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To add to your point about input lag a typical SNES game on real hardware has a 50ms input delay on a CRT screen which is about 16.6 frames and some change.

        There was actually a thread just like this made not even 24 hours ago. Janny deleted it for no reason, but the entire thread was full of people claiming they could "feel" 1-2ms of added input lag. My favorite by far was the guy claiming he'd be able to notice a half a frame of added input lag, meaning he can not only comprehend, but also discern microseconds.
        Honestly pretty fascinating that a board where posters should be in their late 20s at the earliest have the brain function of a 12 year old who needs a "gamer chair" and think they have the abilities of the fucking Flash.

        I do love reading that kind of shit. If they were capable of perceiving less than 10ms their phones would be a giant blur anytime they watched a video or animation on it. If they could perceive 10ms they'd be able to notice the scrolling of a CRT electron beam as a kind of thin ever so slightly darkened band rolls down the screen as the beam takes about 8ms to get from the top to the bottom of the screen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          50ms is 3-4 frames, not 16, even a complete normie would notice that much.

          Anyway I don't see how "SNES already has lag" is an argument against trying to reduce it.
          There's already a delay and you don't want to add on top of it compounding lag from crappy emu/pad/display until it gets noticeable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If they could perceive 10ms they'd be able to notice the scrolling of a CRT electron beam as a kind of thin ever so slightly darkened band rolls
          I do notice that shit sometimes i thought it was normal

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That’s different. That’s a fucked up TV issue.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can see this if you look away from the tv

            you can see the flicker/glow even on static images- causes headaches after prolonged use

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >of varying amounts
        If it plays any different to my snes+crt combo it sucks and goes in the bin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wrong

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >aherm, err, well you see, I am very good at video games... here are my credentials... i am also not obese of course...
    >by the way can you tell me how to emulate on a handheld
    lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lose weight

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i'm not fat, you're fat. also, lose your virginity. get pooped on retard. #owned

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You got a problem with cheese, gay?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why would you use an LCD if you dont want input lag?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the best that there is. I had scooped a thick ass CRT from a garage sale once but threw it into the dumpster because of the flickering it does when viewed from the corner of my eye.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >[My CRT flickers] when viewed from the corner of my eye
        I look directly at mine when gaming, solves this one pretty well.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll get sometime in the next 10 days, if this thread is still up I'll post.
    That said the fucking thing is a PC so IDK what the fuck you're expecting to be different.
    I only ordered today so be patient anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is unfortunate from for me because valve is pulling my reserve on the 12th.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so just order it and find out, it is really easy to sell it if you don't like it.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buying emulators

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    prepare to play with emulator settings

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But I have to buy the damn thing first. There's not a single bacon-grease drinking goober on YT who has the capacity to think about changing settings.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you know how to use RetroArch you will have nothing to fear.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And if you don’t, then you shouldn’t vote.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    real hardware 1ms 240hz gaming monitor
    the games will only run at 60hz obv
    so i recommend doing the "ufo test" at 60fps and see if its too blurry/teary/shitty

    retrotink 2x pro or (ossc equivalent if you dont mind the time involved fucking with it)

    you dont NEED a crt
    but it is much cheaper and easier

    emulation can still be fun
    play a game you could never beat anyways to completion and savescum through it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >240hz gaming monitor
      the games will only run at 60hz
      What

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why buy a 60hz monitor anon
        get your moneys worth

        my shit rotates for tate
        & can be used for pc titles as well

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >get your moneys worth
          No. Response time is all that matters.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you should do what i said
            test with ufo test on 60hz and make sure its not ugly

            however it makes more sense to spend a bit more and have a bit of futureproofing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some consoles like the ps1 do need crt to hide the fullscreen dithering

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    99.99% video games work fine even with minor input lag, no matter how hard retro chuds try to gaslight you into thinking otherwise. The amount of games that would require zero input lag is so small it's almost irrelevant. Yeah you won't be able to do something like hypertap in NES Tetris to keep scoring after level 30. Guess what, you'll never even get to that level even if you play NES tetris on OG hardware for the next 15 years, because almost nobody does. If you can't beat old difficult platformers and similar games, it's always your fault. You're not "sensitive to input lag", you're a bitch that can't accept you lack skill. Blaming your lack of skill on technology is literal DSP-tier coping mechanism
    >Dude I was pushing the buttons but the move didn't come out, nothing I could do man *autistic screeching*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Out of curiosity, what do you consider minor input lag? When does it start becoming a problem?
      Not trying to gotcha you or anything, just wondering what your standards are.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any input lag is unacceptable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what do you consider minor input lag
        Input lag that exists on almost all consoles, controllers, emulators and screens these days.

        Any input lag is unacceptable.

        Better KYS then, considering that the entire universe operates on input lag caused by the speed of light and a few other constants.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After playing original hardware back in the day I have no longer come to care about these troll threads and I simply emulate now for the superior convenience and indistinguishable quality from the original hardware.
    There’s no difference at this point.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you carry a strong delusion
      emulation is filled with inaccuracies
      some systems take well to it & if you have a good usb controller and gaming monitor it IS serviceable

      but to say it outperforms in every regard is misleading as fuck:

      analog gen 2 systems, anything that uses a trackball, light gun titles, sega saturn, n64, ps2, etc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >n64
        Playing at higher resolution and framerate and occasional widescreen support with a few minor graphical glitches always beats playing an accurate blurry mess at 15fps with a garbage controller.
        It was true 15 years ago when emulators only managed to play 90% of N64's library ( Mario, Zelda, Goldeneye) and it's even truer now with the new plugins. That's why console fetishists cope with memes like Flashcarts, RGB mods, PVMemes upscalers, deblur gameshark codes...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s indistinguishable for most things most people will play on most systems.
        I don’t think it outperforms in every regard. It doesn’t outperform at all usually. But it’s close enough for everything I want to do that I would never want original hardware again.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >who know what its like to be healthy
    >one of those gamers who pretend to have better reaction times than NHL goalies, sprinters, olympic fencers, or athletes who can get clean hits on 105mph softballs (they throw faster than baseball and do so 37 feet from plate instead of 55 feet)
    >hurr its because I train on a 144hz monitor, I can tell the difference between 4ms and 5ms display lag
    >gamers rise up!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Display lag is how long it takes for a pixel going from one color to the next. Its about how much an image might ghost/blur.
      You're thinking about input delay, retard.

      Acting al smug and not knowing what you're talking about isnt a good look, anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And you are mixing up pixel response time with display lag. Display lag and monitor input lag are used interchangeably.

        Op was talking about total lag from all sources (rambling about his 144hz monitor paired with a wired controller). When discussing and adding up multiple sources of input lag you can refer to controller lag and display lag to be more clear as to what forms of input lag you are talking about.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was actually a thread just like this made not even 24 hours ago. Janny deleted it for no reason, but the entire thread was full of people claiming they could "feel" 1-2ms of added input lag. My favorite by far was the guy claiming he'd be able to notice a half a frame of added input lag, meaning he can not only comprehend, but also discern microseconds.
      Honestly pretty fascinating that a board where posters should be in their late 20s at the earliest have the brain function of a 12 year old who needs a "gamer chair" and think they have the abilities of the fucking Flash.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you the same idiot that was pulling numbers out of his ass about what "professional gamers" could discern? lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thankfully Ganker goes to older hardware, think if there were modern replacements or "enhancements".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > who needs a "gamer chair"

        I know you're full of shit because there aren't any chair more comfy than gamer chairs. Non gaming people who work at home buy "gamer chairs".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If they are decent, the vast majority are Chinese garbage and shit. Better to get a reputable brand like Steelcase or herman miller

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Any Herman miller mesh chair outclasses any gamer chair on the planet. Easily. Comfort and ergonomics are perfect.

          Gamer chairs are always high back and every gamer you ever see using one, they are leaning forward anyway. Unless you are playing some comfy 4x most gamers are not ever even leaning back j to the chair.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RA has run ahead, you dum-dum. This is the only worthwhile feature of this garbage.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being autistic isn't healthy OP

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing super Mario world with a joystick instead of D-Pad

    Fuck that, and fuck you for bringing it up.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just look at any esports or other gathering of gamers ever. They all jave their sponsored meme chairs and are instead hunched forward not even using the chairs 100 gamer enhancing features. They would be equally fine sitting on wooden stools with that terrible gamer posture they all have.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's linux and the Deck has a desktop mode, you can pretty much get any Linux emulator you wish
    I have no idea about emulation input lag, seems ok?

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