Imagine Sega fanboys from the '90s timeskipping to current timeline. Lol.

Imagine Sega fanboys from the '90s timeskipping to current timeline. Lol.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder how Isekai Ojisan would react to this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Icuras Cuora.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This image pisses me off not because of le seething Sanicfag
    I hate that people fucking think Naka was the miyamoto of SEGA. It's fuckign NOT, he's just some chink programmer. He did NOTHING of value that Oshima and Yasahara didn't do themselves, and other members of Sonic Team at the time.

    It's like comparing Shiggy with Keiji "Con Man" Inafune

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. yu suzuki is a better comparsion

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Miyamoto hasn't fallen off like Suzuki has though. Granted Shiggy hasn't really directed a game outright in a while. Pikmin 3 maybe?

        Even then Naka also did way more than Inafune in terms of actually making games too so it's not exactly 1:1 across the board.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't Star Fox Zero the last game Miyamoto directed?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Granted Shiggy hasn't really directed a game outright in a while. Pikmin 3 maybe
          His last major title was Wii Music and the last game he had any impact on was Star Fox Zero. There's a reason he became a "creative fellow" in 2015. His influence on Pikmin is an exception, but that series ends when he dies/retires.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        suzuki's importance and contributions to gaming outweigh miyamoto (who never really did anything) by an order of magnitude. Miyamoto's a salesman, an ideas guy who manages teams, Suzuki basically invented modern 3D gaming.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Suzuki is Neil Druckmann but Japanese and in the 90s

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Absolute retard take

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate this BS. As if Sonic wasn't great in large part because of its programming. Without the fun physics and movement, Sonic is nothing.

      Not to downplay level design and character design, but stop pretending Naka didn't play a big role in making the old Sonic games great.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Refer to [...]

        Sonic has struggled for decades primarily because of the disconnect between the "GO FAST" and "be careful and don't lose your rings" mechanic. If anything, the modern popularity of Sonic isn't attributable to Naka, it's attributable to Kalinske. Naka didn't even want to make Sonic a big thing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most people agree that the old Sonic games are the best. And that the old 2D games had better physics. Mania was great because it replicated Naka's work.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't Naka the one who wanted Sonic Adventure to be a FFVII clone or am I misremembering?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Adventure/Development
              >Though it is possible Naka and Ohshima were quite aware that they would have to produce another Sonic title at some point, it was Takashi Iizuka, Senior Game Designer for Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles who began pushing the idea of a "Sonic RPG" to be the development studio's next big game. Though work on Sonic Team's second non-Sonic property Burning Rangers was underway, it was decided that the group would indeed look into producing the next big Sonic game. Realizing that the majority of the team responsible for the classic games was still under Sega's employment, Iizuka made it a point to discuss with each person what made up Sonic, not just as a compelling character but as a compelling game series, not wanting to lose those essential elements in the jump to 3D.

              There's definitely some RPG elements in the final game too, with the increased story, hub world, npcs, and little things you do to unlock new areas. Unlocking abilities like the light speed dash too.

              Maybe they wanted it to be even more of an RPG originally.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean it's good because of the art, music and level design.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine Sonic 2 with the same art, music, and level design, but with Sonic 4 physics. It would suck balls.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would still play the shit out of it.
            I'd never fucking play Sonic 4 again even with good physic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hate this BS. As if Sonic wasn't great in large part because of its programming.
        Without the level design it means NOTHING, it's the exact reason Utopia is a shitshow that everyone disowns as a real video game. So no, Sonic can't be nothing just because his gameplay is "fun".

        Doesn't evne matter because most modernfags stop carting about momemntum since SA2. Look at Frontiers. Even when oldfags mod in momentum they still praise the base content for what it is. If Sonic was nothing without momentum, then no one would play any Sonic game since SA2.

        And the worst part about Nakashilling is that Naka hasn't even PROGRAMMED A SINGLE 3D SONIC GAME, ever. The NiGHTS engine was WASTED and never used for a single Sonic project worth shit. So even on that basis comparing him to Shiggy's actual work on Mario 64 is just wrong on a fundental level. Shiggy himself sees 2D Mario and 3D Mario differently. Naka only has 2D Sonic under his belt, and nothing more. Without Oshima, no one would have Sonic himself to obsess 30 years over. Without Yasahara, the level design, the MAIN appeal playing Sonic and co through it all, wouldn't do shit to make people care about Sonic at the time. And even then it's clear the design alone and decent enough level design is all that's needed for fans to lap up Sonic games. The gameplay can and HAS been literally ANYTHING and people will still defend it.

        tldr: Nakashills are retarded. Naka's contribution doesn't matter as much since people are willing to accept Sonic content without him. The same really cannot be said about Mario since ALL PLATFORMERS ON EARTH TODAY DEDICATE THEIR EXISTENCE THANKS TO MARIO. Sonic hasn't meant SHIT to anyone that wasn't already a Sonic autist making Sonic fan games like Spark and Freedom Planet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Obviously you need good level design too, but what made Sonic special was the physics plus the good level design (and art/music). And the physics help dictate what types of levels are possible, because you need to build the levels around what the player can do. Level design and physics are inseparable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The gameplay can and HAS been literally ANYTHING and people will still defend it.
          People defending it doesn't mean it's actually good or not.

          Most fundamental thing that a good game requires is that it's fun to move around, simple as.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More platformers would've copied Sonic if they could have. People tried in the 90s to make Sonic inspired platformers and failed. Because they couldn't replicate what Naka did. A few indie games now actually do a good job of it (along with Mania).

          Hell, most platformers can't even copy Mario right. To this day I think Mario and Sonic remain the best 2D platformers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >More platformers would've copied Sonic if they could have.
            You're trying to tell me over 20 years later no one is able to copy Sonic gameplay? Are you mentally deranged? You fags got only TWO fan games like a Sonic game, and only one of them is 3D. 3D Sonic is over 20 years old so how the fuck is it THAT hard by your logic to make a discount Sonic clone by other devs that don't instantly have to be Sonic autists themselves?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You're trying to tell me over 20 years later no one is able to copy Sonic gameplay?
              I explicitly stated that nobody achieved it back in the 90s. I also said some people by now have managed to do good clones.
              >how the fuck is it THAT hard
              Something as complex as Sonic is too much work for most people.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For most people developing 2D platformers I should say

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I explicitly stated that nobody achieved it back in the 90s.
                It doesn't matter, there was no need for clones of either Mario or Sonic back then, because until Sonic tried against Mario, it kickstarted the want to make rival platformers. Yet after all the Raymans, Crashes, Spyros, Ratchets, etc etcs NO ONE has wanted to take inspiration from Sonic. Only MARIO.
                >Something as complex as Sonic
                Trigonometry has been cracked and nailed down by PS1 era. Come on now. By Gamecube era 3D Trig was mastered with games like Monkey Ball. Wind Waker even has Unreal 5 tier physics for lots of shit in the game programmed by ONE autistic nip, look it up. Yet no one wanted to make a 3D Sonic styled platformer themselves. Because Mario was just a better concept people actually enjoyed more.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much every single pinball game has "sonic" physic dipshit.
            They couldn't make good platformers because no one in the 90s knew how to make good level design

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Pretty much every single pinball game has "sonic" physic dipshit.
              lol no they don't
              It's not just the "pinball physics" either (which isn't a completely accurate description), but things like how scrolling works, bouncing off enemies, gaining speed/momentum, etc. It doesn't work exactly like pinball despite people using that phrase. And look at pinball games in the 90s, most of them didn't have amazing physics either.

              He's right though. Yes Naka was a big reason Sonic was great but he wasn't THE reason. His contributions to Sonic have been grossly overstated, i.e being called the Father of Sonic.

              I agree he doesn't deserve full credit for it. I just want people to accept what you said
              >Yes Naka was a big reason Sonic was great
              This is true and people denying it because they dislike Naka is petty.

              >I explicitly stated that nobody achieved it back in the 90s.
              It doesn't matter, there was no need for clones of either Mario or Sonic back then, because until Sonic tried against Mario, it kickstarted the want to make rival platformers. Yet after all the Raymans, Crashes, Spyros, Ratchets, etc etcs NO ONE has wanted to take inspiration from Sonic. Only MARIO.
              >Something as complex as Sonic
              Trigonometry has been cracked and nailed down by PS1 era. Come on now. By Gamecube era 3D Trig was mastered with games like Monkey Ball. Wind Waker even has Unreal 5 tier physics for lots of shit in the game programmed by ONE autistic nip, look it up. Yet no one wanted to make a 3D Sonic styled platformer themselves. Because Mario was just a better concept people actually enjoyed more.

              Because Mario is easier to replicate (they still can't do that right usually)
              >Trigonometry has been cracked and nailed down by PS1 era. Come on now.
              I'm not saying more complex things haven't been down, but people usually don't put that much effort into making platformer physics that complex or interesting. It's not just about pure complexity, but being fun and interesting. Umihara Kawase's swinging physics are another example of something that's interesting and not replicated well often.

              Most platformers don't do anything interesting with physics/movement, because most developers are lazy in that department. Speaking of 3D games, Mario 64 is still better than most things that come out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Without the level design it means NOTHING, it's the exact reason Utopia is a shitshow that everyone disowns as a real video game.
          The only clown here is you. Utopia is the standard by which any 3D fan game is compared to. Only contrarian gays on Ganker shit on it and they can only use the level design as a flimsy, dishonest argument.

          >Look at Frontiers. Even when oldfags mod in momentum they still praise the base content for what it is. If Sonic was nothing without momentum, then no one would play any Sonic game since SA2.
          You say this like the time between SA2 and Unleashed wasn't collectively referred to as 'the dark ages' by the fanbase, or as if that same fanbase wasn't crying out for a Sonic 4 before they actually got it, or that Sonic Mania, the one game that most closely emulates the design of Naka's work is the most critically acclaimed Sonic game in over 15 years, even by non-fans.

          And your excuse that the fans will accept any half decent 3D Sonic game regardless of if it has physics has nothing to do with how important those physics were to Sonic's design, it only shows how low the standards have become for what fans will accept for a Sonic game, thanks entirely to Sonic Team's own incompetence to live up to the standard set by Yasuhara an Naka.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's right though. Yes Naka was a big reason Sonic was great but he wasn't THE reason. His contributions to Sonic have been grossly overstated, i.e being called the Father of Sonic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miyamoto namedropped Nights in an interview once like 25 years ago and Segafags never got over it, to be fair it is his engine but the only thing they got in common is being control freaks, which obviously served only one of them better while Naka was too busy sabotaging devs over Sega of america Miyamoto was supervising their first 3D console and all of its first party titles

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NiGHTS is extremely overrated and isn't even the best Saturn game. If it were on anything but the Saturn it would be "remembered" as much as games like Return Fire or PO'ed. It's only known because it was a rare example of SoJ and SoA getting along during the 4 bad years of 1995-1998 that ruined everything for everyone. Well, except for Naka and the Ferraris he made Sega buy him.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *1999

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Miyamoto namedroping Nights is in the same bs level as his DK statement of being popular because of the graphics.
        Nobody managed to sauce both of those statements.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad Sega is basically dead in all but name because nothing can hurt me now.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make sure to send a letter to the editor about this. Lucas is surprisingly responsive to reader feedback and critisim. Despite rasing 5 kids (Jesus Fuck) he does respond to every Patreon DM.

    I told him Limited Run Games sucks donkey dicks, and he said they would cover the controversy. Still waiting, but at least he responded.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic sisters...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit, I love Popful Mail and I never knew about that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The hell was Sister Sonic?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The hell was Sister Sonic?
        Popful Mail

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They were planning on one point to rework the Sega CD version of Popful Mail into a game called Sister Sonic.
          [...]
          This.

          So imagine that but you're playing as Sonic's sister instead. Presumably they'd have changed other graphics and sounds too. Imagine Decap Attack vs. the original Magical Hat

          became

          I need to know the best version of this play and how to emulate it pronto.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like the Sega CD version of Popful Mail best. SNES one is way different and the older versions have weird bump-based combat like the old Ys games. For emulators, I use KegaFusion, but don't know what's the best for Sega CD anymore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They were planning on one point to rework the Sega CD version of Popful Mail into a game called Sister Sonic.
            [...]
            This.

            So imagine that but you're playing as Sonic's sister instead. Presumably they'd have changed other graphics and sounds too. Imagine Decap Attack vs. the original Magical Hat

            became

            I like the Sega CD version of Popful Mail best. SNES one is way different and the older versions have weird bump-based combat like the old Ys games. For emulators, I use KegaFusion, but don't know what's the best for Sega CD anymore.

            Seems that the SegaCD versions are the best. Some details are noted here - http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/popful-mail/. You may want to consider a fan translation too, as if I recall, the JP version is voiced by the same actress as Lina Inverse

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Did the English version have a dub? I don't mind those.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                English one has a dub by Working Designs. If you don't know, they're known for their goofy localizations. So expect some pop culture references and added humor. I like it personally, but it's not for everyone. They also tweaked the difficulty a bit to make the game harder.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were planning on one point to rework the Sega CD version of Popful Mail into a game called Sister Sonic.

        >The hell was Sister Sonic?
        Popful Mail

        This.

        So imagine that but you're playing as Sonic's sister instead. Presumably they'd have changed other graphics and sounds too. Imagine Decap Attack vs. the original Magical Hat

        became

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or Mario 2 vs. Doki Doki Panic for one of the most well-known examples

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Chronic the Hedgehog series ended up with its biggest fan and its creator in prison
    Segasisters, it's not fair!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the Sonic franchise so cursed? Even their attempt at the open world meme ended up with an incredibly forgettable game.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Naka didn't create Sonic, he was a code monkey who came up with the ring mechanic and that's it. Ohshima made Sonic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Refer to

      I hate this BS. As if Sonic wasn't great in large part because of its programming. Without the fun physics and movement, Sonic is nothing.

      Not to downplay level design and character design, but stop pretending Naka didn't play a big role in making the old Sonic games great.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay.. I imagined it.

    >who's been arrested?
    >oh some sega guy?
    >I dunno, I just played the games I never cared who made them.
    >Nintendo fans worship some miyomoto guy?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How was Sonic a "rival" to Mario? lmao
    Mario games were always better.
    >SMB is better than Sonic 1
    >SMB 3 is better than Sonic 2
    >SMW is better than Sonic 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sonic 2 and 3/Knuckles are both better than SMW

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking how?
        Actual platforming > Holding right until you hit an enemy.
        2d Sonic games play all the same.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SMW is slow and forgot everything that was learned in SMB3, which is better than both SMW and every Genesis Sonic game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >SMW is slow
            Ok, but Sonic 3/Knuckles is also a slog that overstays its welcome.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can always cut it in half if it's too long. Or start a save from the middle of the game somewhere.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As opposed to Mario 3 with 8 worlds with 5-9 samey levels each? Or Mario World with 70+ levels but only 3-4 different flavors that get endlessly repeated?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Actual platforming > holding right until you hit an enemy
          So you're arguing for sonic then? Considering SMW is barely a platformer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >decades later and the Sega retards are still delusional

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All Sonic games are bad. Floaty, slow garbage platforming games buoyed by "but it's so fast and cool."

        I played the fuck out of SMB1/2/3/W/W2 as a kid as the games came out. I also had a Genesis and played Sonic 1/2/3 when they were new.

        Mario was fun.
        Sonic looked cool for a few minutes before I'd shut it off for being shitty.

        The only thing more baffling to me that people still pretend old Sonic games were good is the dedicated fanbase of autistics that buy new Sonic games that everyone knows are shit.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that good feel when you will never crash harder than yuji baka

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hell, imagine showing them that sega today hinges on a shitty beat-em-up meme series and dating sims for unfuckable weeb fatties to stay afloat

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like all these has-been game designers should have taken a page out of Miyamoto's book and go into other ventures instead of sticking with game design. Most of them just end up being exposed as hacks like Inafune.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Imagine Sega fanboys from the '90s timeskipping to current timeline. Lol.

    >Who are these chinks?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's literally an anime with this exact premise

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sega does what Nintendon't, going bankrupt.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sega isn't fucking going bankrupt. They own some of the most popular franchises in gaming like Total War and Football Manager. They're most likely to survive any industry catastrophe since retards will keep buying "muh footy game" no matter what.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sega fanboys
    Third worlders?

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