In the past decade, there has been a push for the desexualization and masculinization of female characters by Western Devs.
Why?
In the past decade, there has been a push for the desexualization and masculinization of female characters by Western Devs.
appeal to broader a demographic. it's all about money, honey.
Too bad they're LOSING money
Since when do women like ugly bitches
To investors. No sane person hates seeing attractive people.
The only demographic that plays action games other than straight males are troons who are only a short lived minority.
Women dont play these games and even if they were they normally dont hate beautiful female characters.
So in the end its all a psyop brainwashing operation towards young males, which is futile since they are all porn addicts anyway
>a psyop brainwashing operation towards young males
But it's not that at all, it's a more "realistic" take on how video game characters should look and things are changing. I have no problem with people looking like average everyday people, and I don't have an issue with them looking perfect either. But things are changing, times are different and you just have to deal with it if you like it or not. I'm not all about it, simply because I feel that developers have confused realism for ugliness.
>But it's not that at all
First, most games are fantasy/based on fantasy works which always had idealized characters (both males and female) If they want to make a gritty realist trend they at least should leave old IPs alone, also realism in media goes beyond ugly/homosexual characters but game devs dont go that way they simply keep making the same shit than 20 years ago but with fugly troons shoehorned in
Old IP's are old IP's, things changed, I don't know what to tell you.
Changes should happen organically and not because some suits decided to push for diversity out of the blue.
Only mindless drones who get all their opinions from Twitter are ok with this trend
>Only mindless drones who get all their opinions from Twitter are ok with this trend
The fucking passing of time and ongoing and outgoing trends?
the passing of times will never make heterosexuality out of fashion
if you want X to change into Y, then don't call it X
Basic healthy biological behaviour isn't a trend.
We're just going through a surge of genetic abominations because of an absurd world wide endocrine disruptors pollution problem.
The good news is we won't be having an overpopulation problem any time soon.
Still trying hard, no one's against you or pressing you my guy. You're still free to be straight as much as you want.
I didn't say anything like that.
you will never be normal
you will never be accepted
you will always be disgusting
your existence will always be entirely pointless
Peter doens't live in fantasy world though. He's a regular joe who lives in New York. Spiderman without the trashfire that is mdoern New York is like X-Men without the racism against mutants.
If you want to compalin about new york being covered inr ainbows that's societies' problem because sadly that shit is real.
Oh so now Marvel's New York is suppossed to be the real New York?
They way you have to spin this is almost praiseworthy, why do you do it tho?
>here's your realism bro
kys lmao
>a butch unisex looking dyke is realistic and common
Do Americans really?
How the fuck did you completely miss my point? It's like you didn't even read my post.
It's never been out of "fashion", you're trying so fucking hard to be oppressed.
You're a fucking moron.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Time to grow up.
>Time to grow up.
>btw I will literally piss and shit myself if you disagree
Shut the fuck up, looney troon.
You have zero point troon. Ugly unhealthy abominations just want to normalize themselves and that's literally all there is to it.
Too bad for you we're genetically coded to find you repulsive, for very obvious reasons.
I'm not even trans, what the fuck are you talking about?
I'm not trans.
ok troon
Obsessed, but your willingness to call every thing or anyone that disagrees with you or approaches you with any amount of common sense is a "tranny". What about you follow those trans people you hate(but secretly masturbate to), and ACK yourself.
tl;dr troon
>common sense
NTA, but bullshit.
In what way was what I said bullshit?
>But things are changing, times are different and you just have to deal with it if you like it or not.
Remember to punch people who say shit like this irl.
>it's a more "realistic" take on how video game characters should look and things are changing
Abby in TLOU 2 should not have that body build if they're in a post apocalyptic world awash with zombies. Never mind the absence of roids since the female body can't produce the same amount of testosterone as the male body, but the amount of food intake needed to keep up that physique exceeds any kind of rationing unless you're saying they had access to unlimited meat.
Mary Jane should have a shapely chest and butt at the very least because she's currently in a relationship and ALL people in a relationship wanna look good for their partner, but she doesn't have those in some scenes in Spidey 2.
Becoming more ugly, mannified, and whatnot isn't a turn towards realism, it's an ugly mirror of trannies trying to self-insert into popular media so they can be normalized while not realizing that they're shitting on women, ironically being more sexist towards women themselves than actual men. Newsflash, women love looking their best, and being a pugfaced uggo in Fable 4 is not it.
It's because she's a girl, lifts, and is in the post-apocalyptic world where strength = survival. Abby wasn't trying to look like a sweet girl, she had to survive, and her physicality shows that. But, it is still just a video game, it's fiction.
>MJ
Yes, I know what type of body she's supposed to have, she's a super model. I don't know why they ugified her either, or who wanted it, who asked, and who they weren't trying to offend. Realism is fine, but realism doesn't mean ugly.
>Yes, I know what type of body she's supposed to have, she's a super model. I don't know why they ugified her either, or who wanted it, who asked, and who they weren't trying to offend. Realism is fine, but realism doesn't mean ugly.
Abby looks like a girlla with a butch female head.
The made her ugly fro ideological reasons
>ideological reasons
And what the fuck would that be? Her being hot is canon, I would have liked to sit in that room during her design to hear what they have to say, and what their reasoning is. Because, again, no one fucking asks for this shit.
>It's because she's a girl, lifts
You're not understanding me. If a girl lifts without the help of roids and excess food, she will look more like your average yoga pants gym woman rather than Abby. That's why your realism argument falls flat, because unless Abby was trans, her body does not produce the amount of testosterone necessary for that kind of muscle growth. Any gym goer knows this.
>Realism is fine, but realism doesn't mean ugly.
At least we can agree on this. If the men becoming realistic doesn't lead to them becoming ugly, then give women the same equal treatment.
Yes dude, "muh realism", it's just a video game.
If you have no point then say so. Don't defend selective virtues and hypocrisy if you can't defend them genuinely.
Because you're bringing up stupid shit to just argue, yeah, you're right, but it's in a fictional setting and there's a reason why Abby looks the way she does. She's not skipping around handing people flowers and smiling, she's fighting for survival everyday of her life in a world that's been turned upside down. Sometimes people's looks will be influenced by their environments and lifestyle.
She exist
Gorilla cyclops
>Any gym goer knows this.
Then it's no surprise that Druckman and crew didn't know it.
No, the middle ground between woke and /misc/ is normal.
NTA but here's your penile answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Sayre
>Then it's no surprise that Druckman and crew didn't know it.
Lmao, you'd think they would since gyms have a lot of gays in it and they're great people.
If biological science is stupid shit then get your head outta your ass. It's one thing to be influenced by environments and lifestyle, Abby was born in a world BEFORE its current state and even then was already an adult which means further growth is already limited or done. Not to mention the stated female biological difference with males, and to which I graciously stated why her body wasn't realistic that you just ignored. If living for survival was enough for women to get bodies like Abby's, then there should be more women like her not just in TLOU 2, but in all post apoc games, movies, tv shows like it. The women in Survivor should be fucking jacked after a month or 2 surviving. But they're not because they CAN'T, and if you're gonna argue the realism angle when it comes to appearances then you have to also accept the realism that comes with it.
Dude, it's a video game, and it's a post-apocalyptic world. There needs to be no other explanation to why Abby looks like she does.
It's done because Cuckmann hates feminine designs
Ellie's feminine.
No.
Stop being disingenuous.
>But it's not that at all, it's a more "realistic" take on how video game characters should look and things are changing.
This is what you said, which means you think that there is a "standard" that game devs have to follow when it comes to character appearance. If it was "only a video game" then you wouldn't think this way since it doesn't matter at all.
Yes, it's a video game and sometimes you're going to see things that aren't exactly true to life. I've already explained that you have to really look at the world she's in and what she has to do to survive in that lawlessness that's already based on something unrealistic.
Nta but you’re being weird and basically saying she is “unrealistically realistic”, you’re not really saying anything just arguing to argue
How am I being weird? Where's there error in anything I said when it comes to a game and a character?
>how am I being weird
You’re saying it’s fine for her to be unrealistically jacked because the setting is realistic but you’re also saying her being unappealing is cool because it makes it more realistic
Because the setting is UNREALISTIC*
>You’re saying it’s fine for her to be unrealistically jacked
Yes
> because the setting is realistic
The setting is not realistic, it doesn't have to be so seething over her having muscle or too much of it means nothing.
> her being unappealing is cool because it makes it more realistic
Yes, her being unappealing is fine.
I corrected myself, I meant unrealistic setting.
You don’t think it’s a little strange that developers intentionally uglify characters?
>You don’t think it’s a little strange that developers intentionally uglify characters?
YES THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE FUCKING THREAD
Oh gomenasai anon my brain is frazzled
We agree it’s the israelites though
It's not.
Yes it is
Oh sorry realism fag but we do need some explanations because you homosexuals never shut the fuck up about realism
If no reason is needed, then her not being hot and feminine isn't required either
I like my stories at least somewhat believable.
>No, the middle ground between woke and /misc/ is normal.
Nope
>But, it is still just a video game, it's fiction.
So why do people bitch about this?
I have no idea what that is.
Simple, it's because western manchildren aren't exposed to Asian sci-fi anime women and some women are offended by how she looks. Those saying she looks ugly weren't raising the same hell when KOS-MOS had a crotch zipper in MK 4 form, and shares many design similarities with Pyra despite being from a different artist.
>So in the end its all a psyop brainwashing operation towards young males, which is futile since they are all porn addicts anyway
It's effective BECAUSE they are all porn addicts. That's the point. Remove all the cheesecake, redirect people to nagger dick porn.
most troons are still straight males
no, they're "lesbians".
Spiderman 2 bombed.
More like appeal with broader shoulders, mirite?
I smirked.
Nudge culture and the moral mandate of management to ideologically indocrinate you while they serve you
I know what you're trying to say, but it's wrong. It isn't appeal to a broader demographic, whatever this corpospeak means. It's appeal to ESG-bound inverstors, which are pretty much everyone today.
That's overthinking. These things are happening because of demands from who is paying the bills, which today is not the consumer.
If it was to “appeal to everyone” all the men would have to all be unattractive dad-bods too, so THAT was a lie…
Women love dad bods.
Yes, so why isn’t Spider-Man a flabby 5’8 Netflix bingeing man-child like 90% of the male demographic so “everyone” can identify with him? That’s what they do with all the neutered female characters…
I lived with two fucking women, they always talked about how they loved dad bods. If you're going to keep poisoning your mind with bullshit, you're going to be forever the fuck alone.
wow what a dumbfuck. Never believe what they say, because they always use other "definitions" in everything else.
Just SEE what they do.
Women love what they THINK a dad bod is, which is just a bodybuilder without dehydrating.
Nah, I have seen some 9.5/10 women hook up with old men with dad bods. And they weren't even rich.
Daddy issues fuck women up so hard it's unreal.
It's circumstances. If you live in a shit area with few competitions, you're gonna go for those people. Did those women have the choice between Brad Pit or old man? Maybe not.
Oh, so you better not find a gf then. 🙁 Damn.
I tried but she was too shit.
Nobody likes ugly women. The only people pushing this are braindead leftoids.
The tranny demographic?, they are loud but they are minute.
The ugly women demographic?, i doubt ugly women like to see ugly women on games, i mean the women i see in soap operas and crap like that that are either good looking or at least average going on attractive.
This is not about money it's about taking the resources of corporation and (ab)using them to preach the "message".
And what would that message be exactly?
Post modernism aka the "new left" great march.
First destroy the existing cultural standards to rubble (yes including aesthetics, even if they are biological driven), then inject your own to reach le utopian society.
Commies knew in the 60's they were never going to win by force like Marx wanted, so the only way, was to infiltrate, corrupt and destroy from within.
I mean it's not a conspiracy, it's written very clearly in Marcuse, Foucault, Derrida, Fanon and all the evangelists on the new left.
The LGBT are about 3% of the world's population, wtf is wide about that demographic?
>The LGBT are about 3% of the world's population
It's about 60% of the US zoomer population though.
lol, if that was true this would be the last human generation
See, you're implying Americans are human.
Why are americucks like this?
They're corporate israelite slaves.
They pay to have their infant son's foreskins removed so Oprah can keep producing and selling her skin cream. They cucked South Korea into mass mutilating their newborns for the same reason.
The USA is not even a democracy. Their government solely exists to write legislation for their capitalist israelite-controlled private corps. It's a conglomerate republic.
>everyone just laughing at mutilating babies for selling liquid foreskin
I imagine this is what hell looks like. Amerisharts are evil incarnate.
WHO. WHO COMPRISES THIS ALLEGED "BROADER DMEOGRAPHIC?"
STOP ASKING CHUD
>appeal to broader a demographic
This. Women LITERALLY cannot handle attractive and sexy female characters in video games. It drives them green with envy and hatred because subconsciously they know that their only value is their bodies. That's where all the crying about "objectification" and "sexist designs" stems from because irl the women who can pull it off, dress way more provocatively than video game characters. Irl they sometimes even attack physically women that are more attractive than them.
This is the price you pay for welcoming women into gaming. Next time you find a great video game with great designs, don't let women/numales/trannies know about it.
>Women LITERALLY cannot handle attractive and sexy female characters in video games.
But that's complete bullshit.
Lmao prove it. I can point to probably thousands of articles bitching about attractive video game characters, there's a whole series made by Sarkosian or w/e her name was on youtube, then there's all these female character designs since 2014 that have gotten progressively worse, then there's that horizon zero dawn goblin game which got hailed as a feminist game etc. it's literally endless. The proof is in the puddling, unless you want to suggest that less than 1% of the population, aka the trannies have such a major fucking impact on everything in the games industry.
It never was the trannies, it was the women all along, with their numale asslicking sidekicks.
I don't have to prove shit. You just want to rip on women and blame them for everything, women don't fucking care.
>I don't have to prove shit
this is how the hemale argues
I'm talking about normal people, everyday people, the modern day "normie" woman. I'd say that even some feminists don't give a fuck either, it's just a video game.
>thousands of articles about feminists seething 24/7 over sexy women in vidya for these past 15 years
>vs
>1 random anon saying nuh-huh
Sienna does not belong in this picture, her being an ugly old hag is literally the point. Also don't forget that the numale asslicking sidekicks are the ones who often become trannies eventually.
>t.shill
Dead game, shit character
>shilling a 5 year old game
And it flopped
>The game sold over 500,000 copies in four days after the initial PC release.[28] Within 11 days of the PC release, it had exceeded the lifetime revenue of the first Vermintide.[29] It had sold over 1,000,000 copies four weeks after the PC release.[30] By the end of 2019, it had sold 2 million copies.
I really hope you're talking about a completely different game or something, because I have no fucking idea what you mean.
>2 million copies
Flop.
>B-b-b-but muh TLOU2 won GOY awards and sold 4 gorrilions copies, you must be white incel chud, cope and seethe!
Anon, I know you're having some kind of fit right now, but we're talking about Vermintide 2.
Still applies, Wokementide only has 1 attractive woman and she is wearing clothes that cover her almost like burka
>Vermintide
>woke
Is this some kind of tranny falseflag?
>omg the trannies
No /misc/naggers are just that fucking mentally ill and dumb
So it's a falseflag, thanks for confirming it, "comrade".
Nah, you /misc/naggers literally are that mentally ill
You're not normal, you don't represent normaly or speak for normal people, you're a mentally ill, terminally online fuckwit.
Fuck right back tourist
Woketards don't get to decide who is/isn't normal, invader
They actually do through mass media to an extent which is why it's more important to be honest and truthful than normal. This tranny appealing to normalcy is basically trying to use social pressure to control you.
>ignoring crap like She-Hulk and Pregnant Joker
She-Hulk is usually a good comic and pregnant Joker was a one-shot Elseworlds played for laughs. I don't know why, with so many shitty mainstream universe stories they could point to, people keep complaining about pregnant Joker.
>usually a good comic
I think that's from Aaron's Avenger run, not from She-Hulk. He'd be an ok writer if it wasn't for his bizarre urge to do things like making She-Hulk dumb and ugly or creating She-Thor and just calling her "Thor".
>11 minute video
Please give us a tl;dw
Ah, black propaganda. Unfortunately the old saying “Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.” holds true. /misc/ has attracted people dumb enough to believe the shit they're spewing, and they sour our reasonable arguments against the uglification of media as our ideological enemies point to them and pretend they speak for all of us.
>/misc/ has attracted people dumb enough to believe the shit they're spewing, and they sour our reasonable arguments against the uglification of media as our ideological enemies point to them and pretend they speak for all of us.
IS he wrong?
>response unconnected to post
Did you attach the wrong image or something?
Convincing rebuttal.
>Naughty Dog also had images banned on here, Ganker, that you could not post
I remember that. If they have enough power to make Ganker block stuff, they certainly have enough power to make some random Aussie website take down their article.
>
>defending ugly whamen
>censorship
>not a problem
I specifically said that Sienna is the ONLY exception in that picture. It's Warhammer, of course the characters look fucked up. Don't lump me together with the fucking Black worshippers and tranny lovers.
She's ugly.
>wasting money on a game that isn't close to the original
And like I said, her being an ugly old hag is literally the point of her design. She's not some retarded Sony girlboss character, she's literally an old ugly woman.
>she's literally an old ugly woman
Made for woke propaganda like Returnal.
Dude, Vermintide has literally nothing in common with those types of games. I genuinely don't know why you keep this up when it's extremely obvious that you don't even know what game I'm talking about.
The game feature ugly whamen. Be glad Ganker no longer talk about that shit game.
It's been almost 2 hours by now and you still refuse to simply acknowledge that you don't even know what game you're talking about. I don't know if you're some kind of fucked up tranny trying to falseflag here or some 14 year old favela monkey trying to be "based", but it's embarrassing either way. Now go have a nice day, you dumb nagger rat.
>some 14 year old favela monkey trying to be "based"
But those make up for a large part of the 100% prussian stock /misc/-warriors fighting the internet culture war
There shouldn't be ugly women in video games.
>Be glad Ganker no longer talk about that shit game.
VT2 had daily threads for years on Ganker and there's still the occasional thread popping up now and then.
Sienna is literally a sickly old woman who talks like a 60 year old chainsmoker and is half-insane. She's not a role model at all and the game never pretends that she is. Right next to her is a beautiful elf with a sexy ass and hot voice. I have to agree with the other guy, I don't think you know anything about Warhammer or Vermintide.
And yet they advertised her. No one wants angry women that promotes feminism.
>/pol/cel coping hard because he HAS to be the greatest and eternal victim
>leftard accusing his adversary of what he's doing
all the times
>AAAAAH YOU GO AGAINST ME! YOU ARE LE WOKETARD TRANNY israelite!
Nah I'm just an actually normal person (you are not) that wants Ganker to be about videogames and not your inconsequential "culture war"
>ignoring the forced politics in recent games
You invaders brought the culture war. Just stop being woke and we'll go back to playing games, invader.
>You invaders
You're the invader /misc/nagger, fuck off to your concentration camp of a board.
>NO YOU SEE THIS FEMALE HAVING A DIFFERENT COSTUME IN THIS GAME IS THE WORK OF THE ESG israeliteS WHO ARE OUT TO KILL US ALL! POLITICS! AAAAH
>No pay no heed her old costume is still in the game
Lmao, the opposite of woke is not le pol, it's "normal", you stupid loud ideological minority
>it's "normal"
You're not normal, you don't represent normalcy, you don't speak for actually normal people.
>NO DUDE NORMAL PEOPLE TOTALLY SCREECH ABOUT DA JEEEEEEWS AND OBSESS ABOUT TRANNIES 24/7 I AM NORMAL AND MY THOUGHTS AND BEHAVIOUR ARE TOTALLY NORMAL!
>SEE THIS CHARACTER HAS A COSTUME THAT COVERS 1% MORE SKIN IN THE SEQUEL IT IS THE JEEEEEEEEWS IT IS A FUCKING WOKE GAME!
>>NO DUDE NORMAL PEOPLE TOTALLY SCREECH ABOUT DA JEEEEEEWS
Right now they do. What now?
>Right now they do
No because you're not normal.
Well that’s certainly what the israelites want us to think. Great job doing their bidding, schlomo.
>You're not normal, you don't represent normalcy, you don't speak for actually normal people.
Yes I am and yes I do, woketard.
Doesn't matter if it makes you dysphoric
>Yes I am and yes I do
Nah
>OMG U GO LE AGAINST ME U R TRANNY WOKETARD
Not normal, that's what you are, you're a mentally ill person obsessing over politics to the point of it being your life coupled with a persecution/victim complex.
You are NOT normal.
>Yes I am and yes I do, woketard.
No you don't, normal people don't care about what's "woke" and what's not. They're not crying about not being able to jerk off to a video game character.
Nice projection. They actually do.
woketard doesn't get to decide
No they don't.
>says the guy bitching about how a video game character wasn't real enough for him
No no you homosexuals shriek about how women should be realistic so start explaining you fucking rat
I didn't say that, I said that there's a problem with developers confusing ugliness with realism. Realism doesn't mean that everyone has to be fucking ugly.
Ok dude I get it, she realistically couldn't get that body, or muscle, I'm saying it doesn't matter in the context of a game, taking her environment and lifestyle into account.
>I'm saying it doesn't matter
It does matter. It matters a lot. Not thanks to us, but thanks to the industry and the ideologues who wormed their way in and spread the rot. This is where we are now. Remember, the industry caused this with their soapboxing.
Gamers are the greatest and most eternal victim and saying it sarcastically won't hide it.
see
Stop undermining rightful criticism against ugly women characters by shitposting, tranny.
>tranny.
Nah /misc/naggers are just THAT mentally ill and retarded.
>polpolpol
>>IT'S THE israelite israelite TRANNIES WOKE WOKE ESG! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE AND THEY'RE CHOPPING OUR DICKS OFF!
If it speaks like a duck
Shitposting to make the discussion insufferable =/= argument
Oh please you dumb fucking /misc/naggers aren't having a discussion.
We are pinting to a problen that needs solving, and you are just angry as fuck and storming the place to break the thread, cunt
They just seethe when you come at them with any sense and call you a tranny.
Since you're here and so fixated on this particular subject I'd like to give you an opportunity to answer for the missing parts of my penis on behalf of all Judaism.
Oh no, you didn't get to see some drawing at the end of your video game, you're so pressed Anon.
>moving the goalposts
That's not what that means.
Two different games from two different eras, this means nothing.
Because I don't care about gamergate anymore, if didn't even have to be bought up.
Aww. What's the matter? Don't wanna discuss this topic anymore? D'aww. Poor widdle propaganda babby got exposed for having a low power level.
Discuss what? That you're just going to shit on Anita because she's a scapegoat? I agree with most opinions in this thread about it, and I've mentioned that developers have mixed up ugliness with realism. Can you not fucking read?
No one brought up Anita but you, the important thing about GG was the revealed prejudice of the wider industry against its core consumer base that it brought to light.
>No one brought up Anita but yo
Then you haven't read the thread.
If it wasn't a problem for your ilk, you would have left it there
>vermintide
>woke
Yeah, such a big flop that it still gets updates 5 years later.
>more updates
>little to no talks/discussion
Before you continue, could you please say which game you think we are talking about?
>VT2
>flop
What?
Is this a bot or just some autist who doesn't even know which game that anon was talking about?
Debra Wilson has been a casualty in all this. I suppose there is no mercy
true
Becasuse most people like ugly androgynous shitfaces better, amirite?
Unironically most people are average and below average.
And all of them aren't screen material. And all of them like ideal people on their screen.
Fiction doesn't care about real world limitations
The broader demographic does not want ugly characters. Maybe the "women" with broader shoulders do, but they make up an incredible small portion of the audience.
>appeal to broader a demographic
if so,then theyre failing spectacularly at it
That's 100% wrong. My wife always prefers playing the sexiest characters she can, just like I always play ripped dudes. Who the fuck wants to look like
unless they are a troon?
meanwhile:
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/37152/marvels-david-gabriel-2016-market-shift
>sales decline
>we should double down in this diversity thing
>"Everything changed right at the time of the 2016 elections!"
>"What happened then?"
>"I have no idea."
Also loving that editor's note where he retracted every single thing he said, no doubt once the higherups learnt he spilled the beans.
>lernt
It's "learned" you fucking mongoloid.
I didn't realize you /misc/ Nazis are also grammar Nazis.
I looked it up and as usual, I'm right and you're wrong. I hope you learnt something.
It's "learned", stop speaking like you're fucking retarded.
The dictionary itself disagrees with you.
I don't care, it's "learned".
Enjoy being incorrect, nigga.
'Learned' has a different meaning from 'learnt'. If you were actually learned like you pretend to be, you'd know that. Once again, I hope you learnt something today.
Nope, I refuse. It's "learned".
>refusal to learn no matter how much evidence is presented
>no attempt to present any counterevidence or counterarguments
It's like I'm actually on /misc/!
Cry about it.
Why would I cry when I won the argument? I'm celebrating.
Nope, it's "learned".
Why don't you make the slightest attempt to back up your argument instead of repeatedly making yourself look like an obstinate fool?
I was literally there Day 1 and it was my homeboard for years. I still pop in there every so often, and if anything, people like this learned guy seem to have grown to be the overwhelming majority.
But if you're from /misc/, please tell me what it's really like. Maybe I just entered the wrong threads and got the wrong idea.
Nope, too bad.
Concession graciously accepted
>Actual sauce
Thank you Anon. Looks like the original source is some Aussie website called Sausage Roll. Unsurprisingly, Naughty Dog got the original article taken down, but they weren't able to scrub the archives:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200502030120/https://www.sausageroll.com.au/entertainment/games/naughty-dog-made-female-characters-less-feminine-to-be-trans-friendly/
Good find, didn't know they had the article taken down, if you remember, Naughty Dog also had images banned on here, Ganker, that you could not post, there was a big leak before the game release too which corroborates the whole disgruntled employee motive.
Also, how can anyone deny that Abby looks like a tranny, her naked chest was posted here without any ban because she looks like a man.
You've never been to /misc/.
female writers and producers rising the ranks due to quotas.
that's the damage control narrative but it's actually about quotas which are being enforced from two sides. governments mandate some of it and then wall street investors add incentives with the ESG shit and this combined pressure is enough to make companies submit to the agenda fully.
the dumb companies just believe it's a good idea and never look back. the smarter companies know it's risky but still can't resist the idea of "free money" from the ESG machine. you get ESG money right away, whereas returns on whatever you're producing with your new brown, female management and creative staff are years away. it's hard for leaders who are measured by the present day financials of the company to resist bad ideas that will only cost money years later.
Wit an emphasis on da BROAD hehehe
troons dont have money
>appeal to broader a demographic
lol? who? these retards just run IP after IP into the ground
>Why?
Pandering.
But to who? No one likes it, and maybe a small amount of people will bitch but generally people would like to see attractive characters in a video game. Realism doesn't have to mean ugly or homely, yes some people aren't 11/10's and that's just fuckin' life man. We're wired to like attractive people anyway, so these characters are kind of denying us that.
>But to who?
Ironically rich old white men pandering to bitter hags. It doesn't matter what everyone in between thinks because one side is just virtue signaling and making billions off 3rd world slaves to do it while the other is just a bitter minority whose only pleasure is that they're now getting attention.
>white men
Ah yes, those ~~*white men*~~ like niel druckman right?
There's a particular section of the population in the western world, not at all massive or broadly representative in size, but significant enough to stand out, who has been conditioned to think that good cultural productions very actively must display political symbols or sensibilities that are against the norm, and even more ideally directly antagonistic to it and to ideals in particular. They're overrepresented in the parts of the world that gives them the loudest voice on matters, including within the video game industry, which is why you see this sort of pandering.
In this case Mary-Jane is the super model who Peter gets to take home from his heroism. This speaks against this worldview, so MJ has to be made less attractive and be given explicit agency outside of her relation to Peter.
And we're just saying basically "fuck you" to Peter Parker because of things like this. Why's there a need to have Miles other than do pander to minorities who probably didn't care about Peter's skin color in the fucking first place.
>But to who?
the hymies signing the checks
Young people who aren't old enough to hate everything and simply purchase the video games that are new and seem fun
ugly shit is not fun and viral marketing induced hype isn't agency.
Nobody really likes this kind of thing for its own sake. They like the idea of forcing Gamers to like it. It gives certain people a power trip knowing that they control what others see. Kind of like the people who post their porn and fetishes on this site get off the showing it to others
I also question all this need for le realism. Nothing good was made under its flag
Everyone here thinks it's on purpose. I disagree. I refuse to believe that someone could see MJ in top and think she's a good design. It's people who already bought into this "let's make ugly women" argument that think like this.
I'm agreeing with you, fuck.
I have no idea what "globohomo" is, but even saying stupid shit like that makes me want to not take you seriously on anything.
>I'm agreeing with you, fuck.
Thank you thank you
>I have no idea what "globohomo" is, but even saying stupid shit like that makes me want to not take you seriously on anything.
Global homogenization, AKA the removal of soul by corporations/powers that be. Great reset, that gay corporate art, etc etc are examples.
>Removal of soul
It's about the inclusion of things you don't like.
israelites
Americans don't like girls
America hates good looking women. naggers and mutts don’t feel presented.
No we don't.
this, americans constantly kill women in their movies and video games.
The female power fantasy is capable of having a lot in common with what a male player wants to do when presented with female characters. This is problematic for retards, therefor they "attempt" to walk the tightrope of the strong female character instead, a character who is larger than life (much like the protagonist) and unusually competent in ways that avoid allowing the player to have fun with that.
What they have done in this case is make a power fantasy exclusively for the female lead writer, there is a limited amount of power fantasy to be had and they want all of it.
>Trannoids and Uggos jealous
>Feminists thinks attractive designs makes men want to rape them more
>Atttractive women don't to defend care because they have it made anyway
Why aren't women mad over this?
>Want to fuck gigachad superhero
>Cannot self-insert into supermodel gigastacy
same reason why almost every anime protag is the average japanese high school incel
Ugly women and men with a fetish for this particular type of female. If I was in charge I would but she-males in games and media.
Post
Gay ass jannies so gay and ass they've implemented an auto post scrubber. Get fucked pedojannies.
Devs and publishers are paid hefty EGS money to produce whatever they want. Most western devs are ran by blue hair fat ugly chicks and their simp beta codemonkey. For any other coding assistance they bring in like 400 poos who are paid the same amount as one of the cuck codemonkeys.
They're not punished by low sales or reviews because the project is already a profit before it even began.
>EGS
It was Timmy Tencent all along?!!
ESG won't touch China with a poking iron. One of Blackrocks most profitable assets is in the firm that's putting up coal plants in China
>One of Blackrocks most profitable assets is in the firm that's putting up coal plants in China
To them, uglifying videogames must be their version of carbon offsets.
A combination a institutional capture and skewered incentives because of digitized communication.
It'll probably have evened out by the end of the decade
they are paid by blackrock ESG and tencent CCP money
the israelites are behind it
free palestine
This has been explained completely 100 threads ago. You and your discords have been reincarnating this thread for 15 years.
>esg funds close down
>all the corporations that used them immediately do layoff
You love to see this
General lack of fulfillment coupled with increasing narcissism in the general populace means that a lot of people are desperate to feel like they're "making a difference" and "on the winning side". Progressivism is one of the easiest ways to achieve this sense of self-empowerment. People want to feel like they're part of something bigger but they also want to feel like what they're doing matters, and this is the result.
It's all just the same weak-willed narcissism. And I don't think it'll ever truly go away, because modern society doesn't really grant most people a strong sense of fulfillment in their lives.
Agreed, but this is more an underlying cause than a reason.
The boomer-adjacent generation of devs left development for corporate in numbers ages ago, and the gen x generation just flat out right flipped over when the generation you talk about came en masse and demanded changes. But I'd still wager that the decisions are 95% coming from the top from people who has discretionaty control over too much fucking cash, and no real insight in where it is going.
Who cares, just play something made by the East Asians like Final Fantasy or Genshin Impact, heck, they just released Reverse 1999 recently.
women want to self insert far more than men do (men want to RP instead), so you CAN make men uber hunks, but you can't make women hotties
You got that backwards, women fucking love role playing games. Especially if they're marketed towards women, games like The Sims, Animal Crossing, etc.
No, that's literally the case.
Lego of all people did a study because they were struggling in the girls toys department for so long.
When boys are handled, lets say, a batman action figure, they try to play as Batman. They want to imagine scenarios that befit Batman and try to act it out as Batman.
Girls however try to make the character act like THEM. They want the toy to reflect their own reality. That's why Lego launched the Friends line (and why it's the first actually majorly succesful Lego toyline for girls).
Makes sense.
I noticed that on literotica. It was painfully obvious that a story was written by a woman when the whole fanfic was about fictional characters doing mundane stuff in real world.
Whats actually sad is that the study from a pure academic POV actually came up with some genuinely interesting results, but because it was done by a hardcore feminst NGO, they presented the findings not as a means of new business models, but as a demonization of LEGO's business model.
Which is why the underlying numbers haven't changed, but the design approach has. Boys are still the overwhelming majority of consumers of LEGO-toys, but activist within LEGO are still demanding change. More commercials with boys playing with LEGO friends and girls with Batman, more girl characters in the brands popular with boys, and so and so. LEGO has an entire product line which is "Science with LEGO" and every commercial is some girl with a boss b**ch attitude, but the sales are 90%+ boys.
Which speaks to the higher pathology of the finding. The way that boys and girls play differently parralels the way men and woman try and create toys differently. They don't want more toys for the girls (same reason they hate old-school Barbie with a passion), they wan't boys to play like girls.
>they wan't boys to play like girls.
Nothing wrong with that, but we're doing some guy shit later.
It is if you make overt efforts to change the product with the underlying goal to discipline the male gender as an abstract, which is what you see with MJ in the new game, and old game too for that matter.
I don't think it's that at all, you're trying really hard to come off as a victim over a fucking video game characters design.
>It's just a character it doesn't matter
>Okay well I prefer characters with big tits and wide hips
>Oh my god that's terrible fuck you this matters a lot
Every time. Eat a bullet.
My point proven.
I think it's tied to other problem. Boys are eager to replay as Batman, firefighter, policeman, astronaut, cowboy and the like because they are actively encouraged to do so in other fields. They know these roles and accept them as "manly". Meanwhile girls are taught from early age to accept different roles and activities as their own - Lego Friends reflects that by offering them roles of "wives" (cooking, house works) or "girlfriends" (shopping, partying, social meetings). When kids take interests in activities from opposite group (like boys trying to set up kitchen or bedrooms for you soldiers or girls trying to form their dolls into police brigade), they are scolded for it. I remember how I was met with disapproval as little kid when I didnt want to be a soldier or policeman (despite happily commanding toy soldiers and police and playing RTS/TBS games a lot) and had no interest in cars or football, while my mother similarly had bad experience with other kids as school since she would rather construct things out of metal parts or engage in sports (grandfather encouraged that activities, by the way) instead of playing with dolls.
Logical solution would be letting kids just do what they find fun without forced roles but what we observe now is reverse but with core and root of the problem (forced and strict social roles) staying the same.
>had no interest in cars or football
Watching football is gay as shit but playing it is fine. And for cars I was on the same way, but reading about it's history/mechanics got me interested in it and made me appreciate it's design. Stuff like Porsche being a badass engineer who race his own cars and won, or the Stanly steam engines, was fascinating.
>boys
Yes, I identify as Goku
I think many a time it's less "It's literally me" and more like "wow how cool I want that to be literally me"
this, men naturally seek something to look up to and improve upon themselves. Women can't fathom the idea of someone being better than them so they want everything getting to their level.
I'd hate women too if I had to live among angloid or germanic women. No wonder the romans didn't fuck them.
israelites
>company hire people to "adjust" games to modern trends
>said people spend 90% of their life on social media, where various radical feminists (not connected to actual feminism) and other highly political activists are VERY vocal groups, despite being minorities
>PR adjust games to fit these vocal minorities that appear to be majority due to how vocal and aggressive they are
>games are ruined for actual audience that is absent from social media (because why should they waste time on this crap)
>???
>no profit
Simple as that.
And the fear of being "cancelled" that literally had no effect if it was ignored.
It actually have some effect if enough people participate. See Rowling example - she is effectively banned from her own works. Imagine making popular video game and at each convention or event PR pretends you don't exist because you post on Ganker.
Enough people can't bring down a company or person because of being "canceled". It's the person's or business's choice to play along with that apparent canceling, instead of telling them to fuck off. Now, I think over the years there's been a legit cancelling or two, but the rest just seems like nothing but an empty threat to others that have wrongthink and aren't playing along.
And on Rowling, racist shit was already in the books. Calling someone a "mudblood" is basically the equivalent of calling someone a nagger, being down putting to their race and being. So really, nothings really that different from her and the books.
>where various radical feminists (not connected to actual feminism)
>where various radical feminists (not connected to actual feminism)
REAL feminism is...LE GOOD?
Women and simps started making games
god I hate westoids so much its unreal
False dichonomy.
Men are not sexualized like women. Men with firm butts is so because they want to show them strong and in shape, but not through sexualization, but to show power. A woman with big breasts is meant only for sexual purposes, to make the woman a piece of meat and not a human being.
This is why the comparison doesn't work. Men are generally not seen as pieces of meat outside of fetishes like Dominatrix or Humiliation, while women still have the objectification problem going around.
>Men are not sexualized like women
And a lot of these, including early pulp fiction covers were actually painted by women.
But they'll try to gaslight you anyway because, reality is just a subjective dimension.
I don't think book covers are a good indication of anything, just like vidya covers they are often low effort, have no resemblance to anything in the actual story, and change entirely base on localization.
>I don't think book covers are a good indication of anything,
>Uh ackshually I don't think that books written by women for women showcasing their retarded hypocrisy is a good indication of anything because it destroys my argument and I'm a stupid cunt
Cool
>I'm such a dumb outraged culture warrior I have to put words into everyone's mouth to feed my confirmation bias and ignore everything being said
How fast can you move those goalposts?
>Men are generally not seen as pieces of meat
My dude, what?
>Men with firm butts is so because they want to show them strong and in shape, but not through sexualization, but to show power
That makes zero sense, tranny. Just because being strong and powerful in men is seen as sexy doesn't make it not sexualization.
Its actually sexualization because being strong and muscular are sex positive traits in men just like being young and with wide hips/breasts in women are positive sex traits.
Men are attractive based on different traits than women, thats only natural but the pozzed media is trying to subvert that
Explain then, how Ganker is constantly confused by the kinds of video game characters women end up liking being not at all the expected beef cakes you think they would be in most cases.
candy crush?
>Men are generally not seen as pieces of meat
>literally comparing venom to fucking cake
You people are so absolutely retarded it’s quite impressive
You do know nobody buys this shit, right? Here's the reality: fictional hot women make bitter, insecure, mentally ill, ugly, inadequate women angry. And those women are feminists. That is all there is to it.
>Men are not sexualized like women
>so lets turn them into sex objects like women to make things more fair
Woman logic
I can smell your rotten axewound through the screen, homosexual.
My dude, have you ever talked with a woman that isn't your mother?
>Men are not sexualized like women
COMPLETELY BLIND NIGGAS
He's a homosexual making a shit argument but in someways I agree. Like looking at this and
I think "damn, wish that was me" and if I was a girl, I would probably be in respect more than horny of the guy.
no seriously, people like that uncharismatic no-acting-allowed retard with stoner eyes?
Ironically in the real world, media targeted explicitly towards women, thends to be more sexually promiscous.
This. But Trueblood was from a different era. It wouldn't fly today.
Kek, the only books teenage girls read are romantic novels which are borderline pornographic. Girls are as horny as boys, the only difference is that they get turned more by the "idea" of romance than explicit images
The stuff that is in the romance novels would shock you Some of it is doujin levels of depravity
I read the books the Trueblood series was based on. Written by some fat bitch who constantly wrote about Sookie's big tits, how hot and blonde she was, and how big all the dicks she liked was. Oh shit loved her some big dicks.
And Charlene Harris is faaaaaaaat, too. Today she'd be a bluehair, but she's just from a different generation.
>Men with firm butts is so because they want to show them strong and in shape
>Venom cake
Sure buddy.
>Men are not sexualized like women.
kill all homosexuals
Strange that you had to dig all the way back to more than 8 years ago. If you can't do better than that, maybe it just means their stance on sexualization (male and female) has changed?
Did they fucked?
15-20 years ago majority(90%+) of the developers were men
now it's a bit different
Ultimately it's just self indulgence by the devs and has nothing to do with anything else imo.
>potential girl market don't care because they don't find other girls sexually attractive so don't care what the female character design looks like, to them the female character may as well be invisible
>men who used to care don't anymore due to the ubiquitousness of porn and 11/10 onlyfans girls who cater to their specific niche fetishes
Therefore most men are literally just playing for gameplay or plot.
>devs don't care because they see men and women audience don't care, and the oandering can in fact net them low hanging good will from journalists.
>muh porn
Not eveyone who plays a game fucking jerks off to it.
>ubiquitousness of porn
you will never not be a retard, homosexual
that was the best side-character spider story in decades
weebshit vs conventional attractive
normal vs troon
israelites are terrified of sex and women
Not kidding
If you ever dated a israeliteess you'd understand why. Khazar milkers aren't just a meme.
I mean the women are trash too, no love for their kids and their genes are too polluted with incest
Its a cursed race
That's all bullshit, it's their fault you're a fucking loser.
>no love for their kids and their genes are too polluted with incest
Not only are both of those wildly wrong, they're even the exact opposite of the vaguely accurate cultural stereotypes. Where did you get such a crazy idea?
Because Americans are retarded corporate cock sucking NPC's suffering from mental illness.
You are too.
No, I'm white.
Lack of perverts at creative positions, because they have been replaced by autists, cause the companies really like how they work.
No idea, haven't played a western AAA in over a decade though.
It's not like you can find normal fanservice in non AAA games either.
To trigger you, snowflake.
You were triggered by normality
Femininity is a weakness, and women must be strong to defeat the Patriarchy
Except it´s not. A man has to bend backwards and become all kinds of successful to land a woman which only accomplishments needs to be to be pretty and not a bitch. This effectively makes sexuality women biggest asset.
It´s part of a cleaver ploy. First women are deprived of their greatest asset (femininity, beauty and sexuality), then women are convinced that being independent and working is better than being a stay at home spouse with access to their husbands money and lots of free time (seriously guys, how did we ever convinced them of this?), then we convince them it´s empowering to pay not only for their stuff but for our stuff too (dinner, cars, consoles) all of this so that we, men, can achieve our final form as stay at home spouses that play video games all day (except for having to cook and the occasional sex).
But all this is a secret. I can tell it here because we all know there are no women on Ganker
Ugly women got into the space and want to see themselves.
to push us to pursue women in real life.
In an era of plummeting birth rates, how could we say its anything less than heroic?
American game developers hate videogames and use them only to push their tranny agenda
stop thinking about sex, we need to lower population silly boys
christian conservatives won in the end, go figure
>american puritans
>"""christian conservatives"""
kek
Americans really do ruin all culture and tradition they steal.
its the same line of thinking.
>americucks
>thinking
pick one
you got me there
It's not, though.
One wants heterosexual procreation, just no titiliation.
The other (the left) wants no procreation and no titilation. They are not the same. Also they're pro-gay and I'm pretty sure the puritans wouldn't have been down with homosexuals and troons. But please. Keep being stupid.
She actually has a hotdog body, holy shit.
post comic source
You tell me.
Trannies and fatties
Why did they cut Eddie Brock?
Let me tell you about the israelites
Disney and Marvel are globohomo propaganda, they started infecting vidya after it proved to be mass appeal hobby after CoD and Minecraft exploded in sales, so it's not surprising that only some indie devs and AA games can have games without modern beauty standard.
You do know that there's been Disney and Marvel games made before all this culture war stupidity right?
Marvel has been globohomo propaganda since the 1960s. Disney since the 90s.
And that's why Japan is winning.
I mentioned them since OP attached capeshit to his thread, it is also another thing that exploded in popularity around 2010's
They told you how they think right at the start of gamergate, gamers are the enemy and everything they like must never be ruined.
>Gamergate
Oh my god, shut the fuck up it's almost 2024 and you're still bringing up that stupid shit.
Blame Anita
It's on topic, you can close your ears if you wish. Regardless it's clear the industry hates its customers.
Calm down, John Oliver.
People are still seething over the outcome of WWII over on /misc/. Why should Ganker stop seething about our own personal Kristallnacht?
This. And for years leading up to it they were saying stupid shit in articles basically outlining their grievances. GG was astroturfed as shit. Some cuck reveals that his rent-a-GF was being TP'd while she jacked two dudes off, and acted like he was shocked. Dropped that little bit of info here. People laughed, but went about their day, but the journos blew a gasket anyway. They had the whole thing planned. They wanted the outrage to justify their leftist indoctrination being shoved into games.
There was nothing that was planned, it was just a stupid situation that was dying out until Anita got wind of it. Actually having somewhat good intentions, but that was years ago.
>Anita
>good intentions
>"nothing was planned"
Come off it.
It wasn't that serious of a thing and Anita did have some good points about how women are treated in gaming, but that's been something I've discussed many times.
>Anita
>good points
Stop trolling.
Yes.
No dumbass, I'm saying everything in life isn't a conspiracy. That there's not always people in the back planning something, this reeks of paranoid schizophrenia.
>Yes.
So you agree to stop trolling? Thank you.
No, I'm saying that yes, I think Anita didn't do much wrong.
Anita was just a mouthpiece. She had no thoughts of her own to do wrong with. It was all McIntosh.
>you're all crazy schizos who make up conspiracy theories
>no I won't do any research, why should I?
Literally telling me to "do your own research", fuck off.
These aren't even problems, what's there to bitch about?
I don't care anymore.
>gets btfo'd
>"i dont care anymore"
homosexual
That means some things are (hint: this is one of those things).
>it was just a stupid situation that was dying out
Why are you defending a whore?
The guy behind Anita (who also wrote almost everything she ever said) planned this shit YEARS in advance with a whole company, you clueless fucking retard.
I don't know about all that, some things in life aren't always a conspiracy.
>I don't know about all that
>some things in life aren't always a conspiracy.
So what you're saying is that you'd rather call it a conspiracy just in case, even though you admit yourself that you don't know anything about it? That's some genuine goy cattle mentality my dude, I'm impressed you even found this website.
-t. retard
Meds.
Yes, I'm sure.
>I've never done even the most superficial research on this topic, but I'm sure it's just some crazy conspiracy
have a nice day.
Incrdulity is not an argument.
>MEH... NOT ERRY THANG BE LIKE A CUHSPEERUCY N SHEEEIT..................................... 😐 😐 😐
This is just stupid thinking and addresses absolutely nothing.
It's what they do whenever they're presented with information they cannot refute, so they simply dismiss it out of hand.
anti-sex league
I personally don't care as much about female character attraction, unless you can romance the characrer or something like that or the whole game is based on sex sells idea. But if you are going for realism then it makes sense to create some attractive characters as well, not all ugly or mid.
Even Capcom has gone woke
>Capcom
>woke
When?
>t.ranny
I am not
Capcom went woke because fighting game tournos went woke.
I meant the show wouldn't get made today. Books are still kinda in a grey zone where nobody's paying attention.
>you know
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2022/07/05/capcom-fighting-collection-censors-sexy-secret-ending/
https://nichegamer.com/capcom-fighting-collection-update-removes-a-slur/
I mean you're right but this image is a bit disingenuous because Cammy's classic leotard is in the new game. They're woke for other things like partnering with drag queens and trannies to promo their games though.
>defending alt costumes
alt costume
and she's still ugly
>246 posts
>still no dumptruck asses
gay thread
>western characters
>attractive
LOL, LMAO even
Out of a hatred for young men.
Stop replying to the retarded tranny, he does this to derail the thread.
Because I said this
and it caused a bunch of seethe when I'm actually supporting that ugly characters aren't needed and that no one's asking for them, men or women.
>There has
Yeah you're the eternal wittle victim, everyone is out to gwet you especially the spooky joooos and the trannies which are both everywhere
Goku would be such a good character action game.
There are some walking sections in one of the dumb 3d fighting games and they're kind of kino.
I mean full on DMCV levels of character action, with Saiyan Armor episodes, Sin Devil Trigger (Potara Fusions) and destructible environments (West City getting blown up just like the church is destroyed in DMCV). lole
right on
on
It would be the boost the franchise needs to get into the AAA gaming market.
Take your meds retard. Things that neormal people like in entertainment are keptd out of entertainment, replced by things people don't like.
Refute this fact or shut up
>if I state the truth sarcastically people won't believe it
Nah, thanks for the confession xr. israelite tranny.
>Ganker thinks this is ugly
Literally how?
>all covered-up
>masculine
>bisexual
>scanne shitface
>small tits, not cleavage
>no sex appeal
kys
What's the problem? She doesn't look like some Anime girl?
You call "anime girl" everything normal people would like, troon
No, I was specifically saying that you're seething because they don't look like anime girls.
no you are saying that female characters are split between troons nobody like and anime girls.
And even if that was true, just give people anime girls, fascist
No, I was saying that you were bitching about them not looking like anime girls. Are you slow?
Lmao, then the answer is no.
I want them to be feminine and hot and to cater to peoplee who are attracted to women. Normal people.
Anime girls is just one of the options.
>IT'S THE israelite israelite TRANNIES WOKE WOKE ESG! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE AND THEY'RE CHOPPING OUR DICKS OFF!
>Why do you call me /misc/
>AAAAAH YOU GO AGAINST ME! YOU ARE LE WOKETARD TRANNY israelite!
>IT IS TOTALLY REAL THEY ARE DOING IT ALL LOOK AT THIS INFOGRAPH
Would you rather have a Black Cat that looks like this incel? It would totally ruin the tone of the game. Grow up
>3dpd
>coal burner
>implying Spider-Man has a comfy tone
>Western devs
>He thinks this shit isn't happening in Japan too
>would play VS wouldn't play
>THE JEEEEEEEEEEWS!
>TRAAAANNIEEES!
Can we delete this shitty /misc/ thread now?
>IT*S THE israelite israelite TRANNIES WOKE WOKE ESG! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE AND THEY'RE CHOPPING OUR DICKS OFF!
>Why do you call me /misc/
Do you want a picture of my circumcised cock or what, they are literally doing everything you say.
When a trannie loses a argument it starts to complain about /misc/.
LOL
>losing an argument on Ganker
Oh no, what ever shall people do? It's like being the smartest retard in the retard club. You're still retarded.
>israelites TRANNIES TRANNIES israeliteS ESG ESG!
>Gee louise why do people call me /misc/
>Must be because they're angry trannies that are losing the argument
What kind of person is against having attractive female characters in vidya?
No one, that's the point I've been trying to make the whole thread. But why do developers do it?
Nu-males and trannies
Leftists, gays, trannies and nu-male s o y boy types.
Nobody. it's ideological/political
People filled with hatred and resentment of straight males (I wonder who that might be and whether they might have confessed to this in easily googleable articles written by them in their professional capacity in connection with the game industry hmm).
>Western
Japanese publisher. A Western game is BG3 and it's a literal coomer game.
>BG3 and it's a literal queer coomer game.
fixed
no fanservice for normal people allowed
Yeah, all these people obsessing over Shadowheart are gay, sure.
Other actual Western games:
> Hogwarts Legacy - cute worksafe schoolgirls
> Starfield, Cyberpunk - ESG-approved waifus
> Diablo 4 - anatomical atlas of waifus
>> Hogwarts Legacy - cute
lol
Yes. Major NPCs in Hogwarts Legacy is as good as it gets with realistic realtime-rendered 3D girls before you descend into pre-renders, porn, and anime.
Is that the tranny?
>freckles
>no feminine features
Pure shit
Every big budget, big marketing, big brand product have shills obsesssing over it for as long as it gets the spotlight, idiot. Then it's forgotten.
Quality is never a factor. There is nothing attractive about that designed by gays for gays "attractive woman"
Ugly woman and trannies are in charge and they hate beauty. Anything that reminds them of how shit they are should be eliminated.
And men that know better are afraid to speak up.
This shit always happens right before the most horrific of civilization implosions. We're headed for something nasty.
>This shit always happens
Name one other time it happened.
Times when giving woman power fucked things?
>Egypt had the poem by ipuwer a couple thousands of years ago complaining about how woman fucked things. This was before the collapse of the dinasty
>Mursile complained about the degeneracy of the country and had a tablet asking for forgiviness because he assumed that it led to a plague that devasted his empire
>The Assyrians were degenerates that were defeated from inside because people couldn't stand them. It's actually pretty interesting how they fell.
>Going to Asia we have Empress Wu Hou (there's also wu zetian but she was not as bad) in china, still mentioned even today because she was a shit woman that fucked everything.
> Going back to more modern eras we can also link the falling of the ottoman empire to more liberal points of view, similar to how Russia failed.
>In south America, both Joaquim Nabuco and others senators blamed the actions of the Princess Regent for the fall of the Empire. The action of freeing slaves without care for the economical repercussions (doing the liberal agenda without thinking) caused the anger of the bourgeois. One famous quote was: by following the princess you will lose the throne. the revolution and collapse of the Brazilian empire soon followed. Just to note: at that time Brazil was one of the largest economies of the world and was in direct opposition (economic competition) to the USA and had one of the best leaders in Emperor Pedro II. The collapse of the empire and the wars that followed (like the armada revolt) fucked the new republic and made them lose their edge. All because a woman was unable to wait and tried to think like a man.
This last point is important because the majority agreed that freedom of slaves was something to be done. The issue was with timing since Pedro II wanted to work alongside England to modernize Brasil (and make the population at large not rely on slaves) but the Princess was unable to wait.
Thank you for actually delivering with an effortpost, Anon! So I'll put some effort into my response too.
>Egypt had the poem
Anyone know the poem? I could swear I read it once myself.
>Mursile complained
Whom? Google isn't giving me useful answers.
>>The Assyrians... It's actually pretty interesting how they fell.
Would love to know more, if you have to time to type it out.
>> Going back to more modern eras we can also link the falling of the ottoman empire to more liberal points of view, similar to how Russia failed.
Now this I actually know a little about. Both of them failed because they kept themselves closed to 'liberal points of view', and only wised up too late. But those liberal points of view weren't feminism or communism or the like, but rather resisting and refusing technological advances that made other countries more powerful, and resisting making their countries freer and more democratic, instead holding on to monarchies as the monarchs and nobility became increasingly dumber and more incompetent.
>Brazil... Pedro II
I know Pedro II was one of the most capable and competent monarchs in history, and served so long he got sick of being ruler, and when some military officers demanded power and reform, he basically stepped down and told them "it's your problem now" and the country went to shit without him.
But who's this princess you mention?
>Anyone know the poem? I could swear I read it once myself.
I have it on one of my books.
>Whom? Google isn't giving me useful answers.
Mursile was a hitite king. Actually a pretty good king. His message asking for forgiveness was similar to psalms in writing. Interesting that Hitites are very liberal compared with other societies at time.
>Would love to know more, if you have to time to type it out.
Basically it ended with ta coalization of kings that were pissed that the Assirian empire. Mostly because of constant civil wars because every mother wanted her son to be king and it crippled the empire. After every civil war they had to use violence and it created so much hate that they decided to kick ass.
> Both of them failed because they kept themselves closed to 'liberal points of view', and only wised up too late.
This is actually false. Using Russia as a example, Alexander II introduced reforms way earlier than Nicholas II. Nicholas II also tried to give people more freedom but he was actually a very weak ruler. When he was away in WWI, the population at large used his wife as a scapegoat (hat's why theres so much thing about her and rasputin) and the fact that Nicholas was led by his wife (that was led by rasputin dick) was one of the factors for his demise. IF we look at actual changes, the russian populace lost rights when the communist party took power and many reverted to being equal to serfs (note that many people act as if russians were serfs with nicholas but this was false).
> when some military officers demanded power and reform, he basically stepped down and told them "it's your problem now" and the country went to shit without him.
This was the abridged version. In Brazil they actually don't even teach that there was a actual civil war in Brazil. Pedro II stepped down but it was more to avoid fighting than anything else. He was rich AF after all and his schedulle was crazy since he was 5.
>But who's this princess you mention?
Isabel
This thread is about to 404 so I'll just say thanks, and I'll look those up.
Also a large reason WWI led to the tzardom being overthrown (besides German fuckery sending Lenin to Moscow to wreck the place) was how poorly armed and outfitted the Russian army was in that war.
Alexander II was one of the only good Tzars, and the thanks they gave him for his reforms was to assassinate him because he wasn't doing it fast enough.
Give 5 examples from history.
>falling for the most obvious falseflag deflection tactic ever
You guys should be better than that.
Which tactic?
Pretending to be from /misc/ with shitposts that vaguely look like something a tranny would think /misc/ would say, and then samefagging with "haha look how stupid they are!".
Woke cult started being taken seriously and the industry never recovered. It only got worse year after year, with the amerimutt 2016 election and then the 2020 amerimutt chimpouts
You'll never be white
Neither will (you) amerimutt
/thread
Americans should be nuked
Maybe you should get your own culture instead of importing our shitty BLM trash if you hate ours so much, Hakmed. Oh right fucking goats and molesting little boys is hard to build a community around.
>trannies
>israelites
It's women. The holes you so much worship. Why can't you just accept the reality?
because the actual developers have lost control of their own companies to judeo-liberal marketers and replaced by golems and foreign outsourcing that does the bidding of the DIE agenda rather than trying to make actual games that straight men (the only relevant market demographic for console and PC video games) want to play.
Why are you letting women and israelites take control of the things you love?
>DAH JOOOSSS
>DAH WOMEENNN
God damn, shut the fuck up.
God damn, stop being a golem slave to israelites and women, or worse being one yourself (we both know you'll never be a woman though)
And he calls me a tranny, like clockwork.
Hey, how do you feel about Ella Hollywood?
women in comics have always tended to look rather mannish, since their inception. It's a western obsession they pioneered all the cultural rot that pervades the world today. It's what happens when you get to the top, you start to nosedive.
>always tended to look rather mannish, since their inception.
lmao what?
gaslighting of genuine ignorance?
oh boy another culture war thread how fun
remember if we ignore it, it goes away
... right?
Nope, sadly mods and jannies aren't doing what they should though threads like these are getting deleted to some degree.
Literally yes. In this small corner of the world, if everyone would shut the fuck up about it, it would no longer exist to me because you fucking homosexuals are the ones shoving it in my face.
Consider going somewhere else, then?
Nah, Ganker is about videogamers, you're the invasive element.
this is a discussion about video games tho
>this is a discussion about video games
No it isn't, all you're talking about is culture war bullshit. Not about videogames, at best, and I really only mean at best, it is a mentally ill screeching about your little culture war that you used games as a trampoline to jump straight into, instantly abandoning all notions of your screeching being related to games.
It's about video games culture, and the culture surrounding video games development. So it's video games. I know, I know. You don't want people discussion why games are getting worse. Maybe try Reddit where these discussions are not allowed? They all agree with you over there. Maybe that's a better environment for you.
>It's about video games culture, and the culture surrounding video games development. So it's video games
No, no it really isn't.
Maybe try /misc/ which is a board suited for the exact topic you want to discuss.
Yet all that's being discussed here is video games-related. You can be obstinate all you want, but you cannot change reality by stomping your feet and making demands. This discussion is about video games. Deal with it.
>Yet all that's being discussed here is video games-related
No it isn't.
> This discussion is about video games.
No, it is not, not in the slightest.
I repeat. All you're talking about is culture war bullshit. Not about videogames, at best, and I really only mean at best, it is a mentally ill screeching about your little culture war that you used games as a trampoline to jump straight into, instantly abandoning all notions of your screeching being related to games.
Videogames aren't even tetriary.
Video game discussion is taking place here. It doesn't stop being video games because somebody is pointing out that there's leftist garbage being forced in the games. Try Reddit.
>Video game discussion is taking place here
Nope.
>because somebody is pointing out
Oh please, all you're doing is screeching about da joos, trannies, leftists. which has nothing to do about videogames, if you want to screech about your trannies israelites etc. fuck right off to /misc/
Yes. There are stupid people in this thread, you are one of them. Despite this, actual discussion is taking place here. Now you could contribute something intelligent to it, and make meaningful posts, or you can continue to be a stubborn hall monitor. Your choice.
>Yes. There are stupid people in this thread
Yes sadly /misc/naggers still infest Ganker with culture war bullshit that needs to get off our board.
Stubborn hall monitor it is, then.
You'll never be a jannie
you should probably just have a nice day at this point because it isn't going away
Just like gamergate, if you DON'T ignore it, you'll make it dramatically worse.
But you can't ignore women. They get to write whatever they want. And you will let them while making fun of other men.
That was never the point of the argument and the fact that you social media addicted retards missed it for the whole past decade is a testament to how much you've actually contributed to the problem in 10 years.
Yes, this board of fucking edgy rightoid losers made everything worse by constantly giving these fucking retards exposure, but not only that. Most of these leftoid morons gain an audience from the fact that retards who harass them give them endless fuel to keep bitching abd usually gain exposure from controversy because "HELP THE PATRIARCHY IS REAL THOSE SEXISTS ARE OPPRESSING ME!"
So you don't get to complain anymore. You've played along with the social media bullshit.
>leftoid morons gain an audience from the fact that retards who harass them give them endless fuel to keep bitching abd usually gain exposure from controversy
Who?
Anita is the prime example of this. Her whole video series gained traction from the associated controversy because "WOMAN ON INTERNET IS CALLING OUT SEXISM IN VIDEOGAMES AND THE DUMB GAMER BOYS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT!" and in response to that, you'd get frequent threads on Ganker calling to harrass her.
All of this because of her shitty videos which had zero actual academic backing behind them and were basically just glorified opinion pieces that got put on a pedestal. I can't pretend that things would not have gone sour had Anita never gained traction, but the point of not giving these retards attention is not "Bro do nothing about it", it's about not posting dumb ass woke twitter takes on Ganker and everywhere you can just to get people mad. I mean it never was complicated to begin with. Don't play along with the social media bullshit if you really care because that's exactly how shit controversy like this takes off. This board has played its role as the useful idiot along with every alt right, tradhomosexualry and redpill social media tribes on the internet right now in how they actively accelerated the process. I gave no more pity for the doomer who is bitching about woke shit on Ganker specifically.
>NNNOOOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS
Nobody on Ganker harassed her. Anita threads were constantly deleted. Her support came from McIntosh which is why her viewer numbers dried up the moment they split and she started doing some podcast with a sheboon and a troon that got sub-200 listeners.
>zero academic backing
you don't need academic backing to invent make-believe nonsense.
Without censorship or consequence people say what they truly want to. Ganker exports culture because of this. This isn't so much because Ganker is amazing, as it is the rest of society being really SHIT. The people pushing identity politics just want to get paid, and will sacrifice anything to make a monthly payment. So they'll obey the government that controls investment rules. That side is all complicated.
But people will bitch, they will bitch here, and they better bitch because people actually engage with real substance. Agencies have tried top-down control of Ganker with little success. They control reddit, faceberg, x, etc, but those platforms are shit because you can't say things for how they are, only imply.
Ah yes
>Everyone actually think like us and agree with all we think
>It's just that.... that the israelites ok!?
Yes, society IS absurd.
ten years ago trannies were disgusting side-show freaks in common cultural representation, and now people have good opinions about many of the trans e-thots. All of the trans stuff having good representation started here with Linetrap and also 420chan's /cd/ or /lgbt board.
It has a marked effect, the Trump election is another example. Trump was a funny joke and nothing more
>NOOOO! IF YOU NOTICE THE PEOPLE TRYING TO SUBVERT YOUR HOBBY THEN THEY WIN!
lmao
She made a dumb take that anyone, including libcucks, would respond and and disagree. And people still try to argue for dumb representation in gaming. Look no further than the recent interview with Quiet's VA.
She didn't even make the take. That's the thing about Anita. She was a brainless mouthpiece for a man. That's the biggest irony in all of this. The feminist was being controlled by a man the entire time, and as soon as the man disappeared, she lost all her support. For a woman who's entire career was made out of pointing out that women in video games were props for sexuality, she was just a prop for ideology.
Leftists can only self-own.
It comes from having no self awareness.
>implying she doesn't have her own opinion
Only wokies agree with her.
If she did, then those opinions never mattered enough to keep her career going. She only had a career because she was a puppet for a man.
She tried to influence Mirror Edges and Cyberpunk 2077
and what came of that? Nothing. Some fucking troon did more damage than she did.
And never forget she was part of Twitter Safety group
Yeah, nothing women love more than hearing some homosexual sqeak into his mic "F-FUCKING nagger", "HAHA SUCK MY DICK BITCH", then you go on LULZ and whine like a little bitch about how you don't have a gf.
>no proof of harassment to this day
We've all seen it and heard it you lying sack of shit. I bet you do want to play with dudes all the time, don't you anon? No wonder you use the word "pozzed" all the time.
>We've
Who's we?
LISTEN and BELIEVE, chud
No one disagreed with her that woman were treated like shit by estrogenic screaming racist "nazi" men playing video games.
>they only get exposure when literally whos on Ganker bitch about them, and not from the media conglomerates that have been giving them soapboxes for a decade now
lmao
>only
disingenuous retard
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Sauce on this?
I can't find a single one.
Naughtydog making Abby's body look like a tranny.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/naughty-dog-made-female-characters-less-feminine-to-be-trans-friendly-no-spoilers.1538898/
>typos
>shoddy use of punctuation
>grammatical errors
yeah I'm thinking this is fake
It's true though, tranny-enabler. You are not only a retard who can't search on the internet, you are also ill-willed, a retardly idiotic combination, I can't imagine how unhealthy you must be.
lol nah, it comes from some literal who reporter on an obscure Australian gossip website who claims to have interviewed an anonymous developer
you're retarded if you believe it's real
Prove it, because everything points to the fact that it's real.
the idea that any developer even thinks about trannies or offending them at all while making the game is laughable. they're a statistically non-existent market demographic that actively alienates other relevant market demographics. any pro-tranny or pro-homosexual shit in any game is tacked on after the fact to pander, but normal games are never made with them in mind.
And yet they are, look at Abbie's body.
>durr hurr it doesn't make sense
Doesn't mean it's not happening, look at the competitive swimming scene.
>look at Abbie's body.
they used a female mocap model, a female VA, the character is female, and has sex with men in the game. "muscle girl" may not be your thing but that doesn't make the character "trans"
That's a man. Women don't look like that
They took her face and put it on a man's body.
If Andy Serkis mocapped a dragon does that make that dragon a human in the story?
You woke retards are so detached from the reality, all your few neurons are dedicated to rationalizing and finding excuses to your misbehaviors to continue said misbehaviors unopposed. This is why Gamergate is so hated by the woke, it made a lot of gamers become immunized to those excuses and tactics because they've heard the same which failed during Gamergate.
Why do white men allow themselves to be replaced? Why don't you fight back?
What?
Is it just me or is /misc/ losing influence?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/Is%20it%20just%20me%20or%20is%20%2Fpol%2F%20losing%20influence/
White chuds never had any influence on anything lmao
>Why?
israelites. That's why.
Reminder
Canada-chan looks surprisingly cute and friendly.
Trust me bro, she has massive mental problems and will probably try to choke you in your sleep
>India and Romania are practically the same girl
What did AI mean by this?
>Lmao, you'd think they would since gyms have a lot of gays in it and they're great people.
If they were gay Abby would have been trans and there'd be lots of jacked shirtless men. No, they're straight, and slaves to feminist women, that's why this happened.
Too bad, it gives a logical reason why this happened, but also reads like it could have been made up by someone trying to blame a group they hate for something negative.
>No, they're straight, and slaves to feminist women, that's why this happened.
I can see that too. Basically they're simps to the other side of the spectrum of womenkind.
No other woman in TLOU verse has got Abby's body structure. I know what world I'm looking in, I know what it's based off of, I know it's extremely similar to our world, so I know that Abby's existence is impossible and is nothing more but deranged wish fulfillment. And ND fans themselves have used real life female bodybuilders to defend their choice to make Abby look that way, which only reinforces my scientific argument against disingenuous and selective realism. Hell most men don't look like Abby in TLOU 2 and they have the testosterone needed to build a body like that.
it makes female characters more identifiable for an average woman
there are more women than men, so potential market for women is bigger
men play games regardless anyway
it's all profits
nobody likes ugly people, not even ugly people
"The good lord must love ugly people, because he made so many of them." - Abe Lincoln
True
>t. Ugly person
Women buy shit more than men and normalhomosexuals but more shit than incels. Gee I wonder why AAA games with a 700 million budget to make back are gunning for them hmmmmm. Clearly they’re targeting gamers.
women didn't ask of uglier women
the ultimate ideal of the army of the damned is sexless interchangeable flabby people.
No boobs, no muscle, no ass, no mind, no soul, just fat flesh golems
resist evil within and without
There was this marketing study with LEGO where basicaly boys want to be Batman and girls want Batman to be like them. So yea you know where to point at when the characters start looking like your average people.
But average doesn't always mean ugly.
Well when asking from Ganker it definitely does.
Becasue le average is ugly compared to ideal.
And ideal is what belongs to the screen, homosexual.
That sounds retarded, what does "Want Batman to be like them" even mean? Doesn't that mean they would prefer to play with Barbies instead of Batman? Yeah if I was forced to play with Barbies as a boy I'd want Barbies to be more like me, ie. I'd rather play with another toy like some Bionicles or something.
It means that they wanted to dress up Batman and see him hang out with friends.
So that means the girls wanted to play with another toy. Retarded researchers bending their results to their whims.
White men biggest adversaries are white women
>ctrl+5
>"tran"
>50 results
XD
Yeah, /misc/naggers are obsessed and always result to their preprogrammed buzzwords
You know for all the trannies and gay stuff that is supposedly everywhere in your face forcing its way into your life, I only ever see it on Ganker, when angry /misc/-cels post some fucking twitter screencap.
>I only ever see it on Ganker
Then you aren't paying attention, the stuff you see here is mostly calling attention to, or a response to these things being pushed by big corporations and media. You people should be bitching at them, not random anonymous posters on the internet.
>when angry /misc/-cels
Why do you people talk in this aggressive, overly hyperbolic manner?
>INCEL INCEL INCEL HAVE SEX INCEL INCEL INCEL
>black transwomen have have a very simple message: stop killing us
Have they tried saying that to a mirror?
If you had sex you wouldn't get so heated about how fictional women look anon.
Says the guy getting heated about defending how fictional women look.
I don't care about it
And neither should you
>I don't care about it
Then you wouldn't be here. Incels calling other people incels is bizarre.
>you wouldn't get so heated about how fictional women look anon
I don't, in fact I rarely post about it, Mr. Passive Aggressive homosexual.
>You just post things that make me mad because you're an incel!
You are also probably projecting.
>ITT trannies slinging loaded ideological terminology while pretending to be impartial fans
Why do they do this? They talk like costomers like us who criticise these companies are the ones who are out of line and try to impose this idea through authoritative speech. They will bitch at us and get mad about talking about trannies implying we talk about them too much but won't even bat an eye at the things that even cause us to talk about this shit, like the companies that are obsessed with them that we call attention to when we even bring it up. We wouldn't talk about trannies were it not for these sorts of things.
I seriously don't get the mindset, and I don't think even they know exactly why they let themselves get jinned up. If they really cared you'd think they'd take a position closer to us. I'm guessing they are just sort of out of the loop and hate seeing these things invoked, and have illogically allowed themselves to start getting mad at us and calling us stupid words like incel because they can't take the invocation of the issues that we aren't even imposing.
Then you haven't touched grass at all. When I worked at AT&T the gays had the freedom to use either the men's or women's bathrooms. The women there didn't report anything, and single men were always sexually harassed by them in the corridors since they almost always walked in groups.
>I'm saying it doesn't matter in the context of a game, taking her environment and lifestyle into account.
I'm saying it matters in relation to your post about times changing and that the current "mannification" of women are merely another sign of realism in gaming. Since Abby is biologically female, that reasoning doesn't work. It would if she were trans though.
I'm convinced it's an eastern op
>Ganker when female videogame characters don't look like cheap whores
White genocide
The West has fallen
Billions must die etc, etc.
Miles: Anoooo Aniki..... (Translator's note: Aniki means "Big Bro")
>ITT incel white chuds larping as OG Spider-Man fans
You should all have a nice day
Now
No one's doing that tho.
>defending woke black cat
This is what the average female looks like. Someone please email this to the AAA devs so they know. Thanks.
In America they have to look like they have a penis or it's objectification.
>Gives them all a square jawline and a caveman brow
I FIXED IT 😀
They all already have prominent jaw lines.
It's not competitive any more!
I'm talking Aloy-tier "what the fuck" jawline.
Aloy's problem is they made her face too fat, not the jawline. Kinda the opposite of Abby.
They made her look like Nikocadoavacado.
Exactly, they made her look like a fattie.
Like a fat MAN
Like Nick? Yeah, I see that.
Fat and too wide of a jaw.
>coal burners
No thanks
Now post American women
>Now post American women
>Now
Prominent wide jaws are a characteristic of angloid women lol
Good thread Ganker, both chuds and SJWs decisively outargued and defeated.