In your opinion, which had better

>plot writing
>character writing
>plot pacing
>voice acting
>cinematic camerawork
>dialogue
>message/philosophy

Why those two?
They're the most recent (PT doesn't count) from a man/team who'll probably stop making games in a decade or two

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think DS had a stronger and more relevant message, under all the crap. The storytelling isn't very good in either game, but TPP had a couple amazing scenes that stand a lot taller than anything in DS, chiefly Huey's trial.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >TPP had a couple amazing scenes that stand a lot taller than anything in DS
      Tpp has nothing on this scene though

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actually finish DS before saying that shit. Everything in the Epilogue is better than the highest points of MGSV.

      Now here comes the contrarianism "no the Die Hardman monologue wasn't good!"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Everything in the Epilogue
        Literally the post above yours

        >TPP had a couple amazing scenes that stand a lot taller than anything in DS
        Tpp has nothing on this scene though

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Epilogue

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MGSV's is essentially an inverse to MGS2
      [...]
      >MGSV is better in every category except maybe message/philosoph
      What even was the core message/philosophy of MGSV?
      Language can be used to create or destroy?
      Myth/Legend can be more important than truth?
      Vengeance is destructive?
      Nukes bad?

      ?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huey and Kaz are the most interesting characters in V, sad that we couldn't see more of them.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death Stranding was about how women are ushering in the apocalypse and you cannot convince me otherwise

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death Stranding and it's not close.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >plot writing
    I can't remember Death Stranding's but MGSV's was bad so... neither?
    >character writing
    Death Stranding if only because MGSV's isn't great
    >plot pacing
    Death Stranding if only because MGSV's is non-existant
    >voice acting
    Death Stranding
    >cinematic camerawork
    MGSV. I really really loved how the camerawork was mimicking a real life handheld feel, how it moved around the room in cutscenes and such
    >dialogue
    Death Stranding if only because MGSV's is quasi non-existant and what's there isn't great
    >message/philosophy
    Death Stranding's is more positive, MGSV's is essentially an inverse to MGS2 and depending on how you look at it, a final frick you to the fans that desperately wanted to be Snake

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      acting
      >Death Stranding
      I think Norman Reedus brings it down massively. I can't accept that he was instructed to play the character that way either because he's equally unconvincing in his tv work
      At least MGSV sounded consistently believable, even with the cassette recordings

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MGSV's is essentially an inverse to MGS2

      If I were to dissect the two, I'd say MGSV is better in every category except maybe message/philosophy. However, DS still ends up feeling like more than the sum of its parts. All things considered I'd have a hard time deciding which I like more.

      >MGSV is better in every category except maybe message/philosoph
      What even was the core message/philosophy of MGSV?
      Language can be used to create or destroy?
      Myth/Legend can be more important than truth?
      Vengeance is destructive?
      Nukes bad?

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>plot writing
    DS
    writing
    DS
    >>plot pacing
    DS
    acting
    TPP
    camerawork
    TPP

    TPP

    DS

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good grief expand your scope. They're both complete shlock.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Death Stranding is nothing but monologues and overacting. Directed by a complete hack.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Death Stranding is nothing but monologues and overacting. Directed by a complete hack.

      No claim was made about them being exemplars of storytelling.
      This is a comparison of the elements that made up the presentation of the games' stories.
      If it makes you feel better, think of it as "they're both shitty, but which is less shitty in these specific ways?"

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Plot
    DS
    >Character writing
    DS
    >Plot pacing
    DS
    >Voice acting
    DS
    >Cinematic camerawork
    DS
    >Dialogue
    MGSV
    >message/philosophy
    DS

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I cried at the end of DS, fricking loved that game way more than I expected.

    Not for the stupid Extinction Entity bullshit, but for the relationship between Mads, Norman and Diehardman.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even know what DS is about
    I've never played it, noone discusses it, it simply exists

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      So after this thread where you've personally witnessed people discussing it, will you still claim 'noone discusses it'?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What have they discussed anon?
        Point to any part of the plot, gameplay, examples of dialog
        There's only one

        >TPP had a couple amazing scenes that stand a lot taller than anything in DS
        Tpp has nothing on this scene though

        Everything else is just vague nothingness

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You say there's never any discussion. In the first 12 posts there's clearly discussion on the nature of a lategame monologue, the poor quality of its voice acting, the overuse of monologues, a joke parodying the story and a direct line of dialog. With plot discussion immediately after your post. And this is in a thread where it's being compared to another game, not discussed on its own.
          You pre-emptively dismiss it all because it's too vague and not the right kind of discussion, apparently.

          Either you're too proud to admit you were wrong in your initial blanket statement and you don't note death stranding discussion because you don't care about the game, or, you just really don't believe anyone enjoys the game and will refuse any evidence to the contrary.
          So again, do you still believe 'noone discusses death stranding'?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So again, do you still believe 'noone discusses death stranding'?
            Yes

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, figures you would

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I were to dissect the two, I'd say MGSV is better in every category except maybe message/philosophy. However, DS still ends up feeling like more than the sum of its parts. All things considered I'd have a hard time deciding which I like more.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    so, what was his deal? was it just daddy issues?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think you can look at it as a parallel with Sam.

      Sam and Higgs both have DOOMS and are connected to Amelie, but Sam is connected to the human side of her, and Higgs to the EE side. Same nature, but different nurture, I guess.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Homosexuality, he wanted that autistic porter ass.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    MGSV was garbage in everything but gameplay, so wins all go to death stranding

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In your opinion, which had better
    the trailers were better than the games

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Death Stranding as a whole is a more complete game, however from a gameplay point of view MGS V is better.
    MGSV's biggest weakness will always be the story. I genuinely do not understand how it happened but even from going to Peace Walker, which is considered by many (not me) the weakest game in the saga, that has a consistent story similar to the previous games between all the grinding, to going to MGS V where you are basically just doing errand after errand with sprinkles of story between and suddenly almost by accident you find and destroy XOF's project, it's truly baffling.
    I'm not opposed to Kojima's idea for V, I really do not care if we weren't playing as Bibo, and I like the idea of making Venom act weird all throughout the game as hints that he's not the real Snake, but the execution was atrocious it feels like a very useless game that could have been 20 hours shorter just to show you at the end that Big Boss is an butthole willing to sacrifice his men's life doing an antithesis to MGS 2's ending (were Solid Snake makes Raiden reject the idea that was made for him and to make his own) by Big Boss ruining one of his most loyal's soldiers life to go into hiding and create Zanzibar Land.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my personal opinion, MGS5 is one of the best games ever made.
    Death Stranding is definitely worth playing, but I don't think it can possibly compare in any way in terms of moment to moment gameplay...and that should be the most important thing in a video game.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"games"

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ironic that kojima clearly put a lot of effort them into their cinematic aspects and yet they're most famous/infamous for their gameplay

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >neither
    >neither
    >neither
    >MGSV
    >Death Stranding
    >there's a couple of standouts from both but the dialogue is so cringe 99% of the time so neither
    >neither

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Behold, the peak MGSgay thread.
    All plot shit, zero mention of gameplay.
    Reminder that storytelling in videogames has as much importance as in porn movies.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a vs thread, discussing the most common elements between both games.

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