you ARE remembering to crush coopbabies, right?
it's our duty to give them the proper experience, by forcing the intended difficulty.
you ARE remembering to crush coopbabies, right?
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>in tears because a mod blocked them out
Why are you so defensive tho?
No one is defensive. People are mocking said op that may or may not be you for essentially being an asshole.
Looks like someone got filtered, and its not OP.
But OP by definition got filtered, as he can't interrupt some guys' co-op session anymore
Sounds to me like he's just too shit for fighting games, because the combat in souls shit is absolute garbage yet it's how he gets his pvp fix
>OP is too shit because that other guy is so afraid of fighting he resorts to modding his game in order to run away from a fight
Not how it works, friend.
And zoomers don't own the dictionary.
Two gayboys looking to co-op filtered some buttmad gay who never matured past his early teens when he discovered Dark Souls on his 360
Now this is a whole new level of newgayry
>strawman: the argument
Keep running, bitch bro.
your post is like some angry brown favela dweller threatening to come to my mansion across the world and 'deal' with me
it's impotent rage, but oh so funny
you aren't going to do SHIT
because you can't
Imagine being such a loser that you boast about peeing your pants over some pvp.
>because you can't
I already played and owned noobs in elden ring on launch with all the other real players. you're basically playing with noobs and w/e now. if you didn't use the mod you'd still have an easy time.
but you can't even handle that lol
>I already played and owned noobs in elden ring on launch with all the other real players. you're basically playing with noobs and w/e now. if you didn't use the mod you'd still have an easy time.
God you can just SMELL the lard laden Crisco tears leaking from this fat gay
You sound really upset kek
nah, YOU sound really upset
you can't force people to uninstall a mod
but anon you're the one sperging out all thread, obviously taking out stress on strangers, probably avoiding something in real life, and also most likely trying to ignore whatever you're avoiding.
what is it you're avoiding?
>what is it you're avoiding?
probably having to play video games with you
KEK OWNED RETARD
>already played and owned noobs on launch
God that shit was fun lmao suicide bombing with the double boom crystal tear before people caught on was fucking hilarious
>I already played and owned noobs in elden ring on launch with all the other real players. you're basically playing with noobs and w/e now. if you didn't use the mod you'd still have an easy time.
Do you know what the purpose of a filter is? To keep trash out.
Yeah, and that mod anon got filtered hard. So why should anyone care if hes hanging out with people similar to him?
And stay out, trash. Not that you have a choice. Filtered.
>and then he's like
screeching retards yelling "LET ME IN" while also claiming the ones keeping them out are "filtered" at the same time is pretty funny, though.
what do you mean?
>gets defensive immediately
>"why are you so defensive?!"
Jesus I hate those words
>chad based based chad
Why are you such a moron
>make up imaginary enemy in your head so you can win a fake argument
i dont care if people use the mod, its a genuinely cool mod. ive used it and its fun, even though i mostly invade
Stop samefagging, OP...
thats not me. i know i came off as obviously antagonistic and now i regret it because this whole thread is just entirely meaningless shit flinging. i mostly just wanna talk about what builds everyone is using and what weapons they enjoy but i guess this mess is my fault
Well, alright then.
What builds do you like to use?
How do you deal with gankers?
Favorite spots to invade?
all kinds, but lately ive been having a lot of fun with my lvl 80 str build using a two handed heavy wakizashi (the dagger). its a little weird but oddly fun.
i deal with gankers by being patient. every time i see invaders die and complain about ganks its because they feel the need to rush into battle immediately for whatever reason. theres nothing wrong with using everything, including time, to your disposal. whittle them down.
with the new invasion feature near/far i just use that but i love when i get invasions in wide open areas or legacy dungeons. caves and catacombs can be pretty tough to invade in.
yes i already admitted my fault and regret about it. whats done is done lol
>make shitty bait thread
>its extremely low quality and has no actual discussion
AAAAAA HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW? Ganker NEEDS AN EASY MODE!!
And you think all 50k players are using that mod?
What about consoles?
The "muh co-op mod is killing the game!" statement is truly retarded.
this. its around 10% of the total players and even that is me being generous.
>doesn't know what words mean
Anon, you might need to google that.
the post that destroyed invadercucks
damn look at all those (you)s they really are crying haha
This is why I hate online anything in dark souls. It's dogshit and not worth it.
Arena pvp is fun.
No, pvp is and always will be terrible.
I disagree. I think it's fun.
Well I personally disagree but I will not harp on you for liking it.
Literally the worst form of pvp in the game. You were never meant to passively circle around each other while spamming ranged moves in these games yet pvp gays begged for it.
>Literally the worst form of pvp in the game
I disagree. I like fighting an opponent on equal footing.
>You were never meant to passively circle around each other while spamming ranged moves in these games
I don't even know what you're on about. Most people use melee weapons and play aggressively aside from sorcerers and bloody helice users. It's not like playing passively isn't possible in invasions, either, and you also have far less incentive to play passively in the arena compared to invasions because your runes/level progress aren't at stake and you have a time limit.
I don't think you've actually ever participated in the arena and just made something up in your head as a justification to hate it for who knows what reason.
I spent way too many days in the arena on DS3, played around a bit on ER's arena, realized it's basically the same, quit, and when I came back the arena was almost dead with the only consistent matches being duels.
>Uhh I don't know what you're on about
You either engage in that type of passive play and are oblivious to it or didn't touch the arena. The chaos and map/enemy exploitation of arenas will always be more fun. At least it was before ER gimped the invader number and made it so that half of the map was the same generic open world plains. Whittling down a gank to it's last desperate member will always be leagues and leagues better than le honorabu 1v1, which reeks of fighting game autism and should've never been implemented.
I've played and beat the game like 5 times now. That's hundreds of hours of my life that I'm never getting back.
From now on, when I play ER, I summon and let other people play the game for me. You wanna tryhard? Fine, go ahead and tryhard.
>makes invaders seethe
>literally admits to being unable to handle the in-game mechanics
The proof is in the pudding
the purpose of the mod is to enhance coop, not remove invasions. the latter is a byproduct that's hard to work around, not the intent
the co-op in the base game sucks fucking ass
A likely story.
explain how to incorporate invasions like the main game does, I'm all ears
Why would I need to explain anything?
You are a person that uses outside mod to circumvent the intended flow of the game. You do it because you failed to deal with the existing mechanic, regardless of the way it was implemented. In short, you got filtered. End of story.
I already played the game solo however, so that doesn't really work. I'll keep modding my games, one of the best perks of being on pc
>literally admits to being unable to explain his point
You're a massive gay trying so hard to sound like le epic gaymurr. have a nice day mouthbreather.
>Vetification not required.
you got filtered
by a mod
Me - the parrot
Watermelon - your impotent rage
impotent means one can't do anything about it
i can install a mod
i'm at peace knowing a mod prevents my experience from being ruined by you
>i can install a mod
Thereby proving your impotence in dealing with a gameplay mechanic.
>i'm at peace knowing a mod prevents my experience from being ruined by you
aand filtered =)
badly designed random disconnects is not a gameplay mechanic, that's just retarded design. defending it doesn't make it okay.
thats not even a part of the design tbh
Me - The parrot
Watermelon - an invader's importent rage when I install a mod
wowee it sure is fun just steamrolling everything, coop sucks ass with or without the mod. Congratulations on getting a dev to make their game more like everything else I guess.
No problem, locust. Enjoy your fill of the same exact shit.
what other games offer the same experience as ER seamless coop?
Can't think of any to be honest, why you'd want more I don't know because coop souls is one of the most boring experiences I've ever had. For something similar I'd suggest window licking unless you're already familiar.
then what did you mean by "more like everything else" and "the exact same shit"?
checklist open world rpgs
>wowee it sure is fun just steamrolling everything
It is when you've already beaten the game normally.
wow ur mad
>filtered by the existence of a mod that stops him from being a moron
>literally pisses and shits himself on Ganker over a mod
>in the end is still powerless to do anything about it and the mod continues on existing
>literally having an autistic breakdown on Ganker over being called out on being filtered
>invader can no longer access someone's game
>le filtered babby lmao git gud scrub im to 1337 for u moron lololol
>host continues playing with his friend blissfully unaware of the angry baby's existence
Seriously, did you watch OnlyAfro and not realise Giant Dad was taking the piss out of pvpfags? You made it your entire personality.
You shure do know your way around e-celebs anon, care to explain yourself?
Also, dont you erfags love to call out on being filtered anyway? I thought you'd enjoy it, but all i get is some autistic babble instead.
>Seriously, did you watch OnlyAfro and not realise Giant D- ACK
This is the man trying to make fun of pvpGODS
>Verification not required
what the fuck happened to all these people
at first he was doing it as a meme then the next stream he just kept doing it over and over
It's never a meme anon
At least they fucking telegraph it so I can avoid it completely, like Digibro, it was just me in denial I guess
You literally don't exist to me. You can't interact with my game in any way. I have to choose to come into your anally ravaged threads on Ganker to even be aware of your existence, and only then because it's really fucking funny
They exist in your mind apparently.
this is actually one of the most fun ways to play the game with an irl friend
>has to cheat to win
I hope they bring back "the player is the bossfight" trope
I could sit there and gatekeep bros from content all day long
This, nothing was more fun than being a STR poisemonster in DS3, being a Spear of the Church, and getting extra poise and health. I could sit in the middle of a 3v1 (or even a 4v1) and if they didn't have big weapons, I'd just R2 > R1 > R1 and that'd usually kill everyone. It was even more fun when it didn't kill the host and you got to seem them panic roll for the next minute.
I miss when DS3 was really populated.
the couple days before they turned off the DeS PS3 servers were great, constant old monk summons
>he starts to lose and runs towards ai enemies
>WAAAAHHH WHY ISNT THE INVADER ENTERTAINING MY 3 MAN GANKSQUAD OF OVERLEVELED PASSWORD SUMMONS!!
im content fighting multiple people but dont get whiny when i also choose my own methods of survival/fighting. its only fair.
What's the most kino place to invade people? For me, it's the bridge leading to Maliketh.
Why does everything in this game feels so overdesigned?
>Man, I don't like this thing but can't be bothered to explain why, what do I do?
>Ah yes, it is "overdesigned"
Still cant get over the fact that you got filtered?
lol imagine being filtered this hard
>everything has too much design
>there's too much content
>the game takes too long to beat
>too many different types of enemies
>too many options
And very nearly all of it is reused assets. Even that screenshot
is a reused asset from miyazaki's hogwarts, they can't even be bothered to create unique architecture in a game where it's mostly empty fields with buildings clipping into the ground
The in-game art team probably had a good resource of Romaboo sources and ate it up.
Stormveil, which is sad because it's so low level. Leyndell or Raya Lucaria crystal tunnel are my runners-up.
One throwing knife and your build is useless
That's why it's fun
To each their own I guess.
I like my claymore charge attack build.
>Turning a shit quality 5 second webm into an even worse quality 25 second webm
I unironically seethe whenever I get invaded and try hard but I think if I died to this I'd fucking cry laughing.
>WHAT THE FUCK, IS THAT A NON-DRAGON CREST TALISMAN MOONVEIL MOUNTAINTOPS OF THE DRAGON INVASION BUILD? MIYAZAKI FIRE THIS MAN.
This is the gayest fucking shit ever. Invaders cry about how nobody wants to fight them or that they're always outnumbered and then pull this gay shit. Holy fuck it's pathetic.
I just turn online off in ever souls game. It's just not fun playing against a community that (doesn't matter if you like pvp or not) act like they have all of the mental illnesses.
>joke build that has 0 levels in VIG
>dies if you hit it once with a wet paper towel
the gayest fucking shit is people who summon 2 lv 200 summons then run away as far as possible so that even if you kill said summons, they can resummon immediately
The trick is to farm them to fund your entire playthrough. The spoils of a single invasion.
Twinking has always been an intended feature, which is why level and weapon level restrictions exist. There's even a teleport directly to the best twink talisman in the entire game in Elden Ring, which is guarded by a single rat, whereas its useless twin is in the Haligtree.
yes it's always been an intended feature, that's why every game they come up with different ways to stop people from twinking
None of the game in the series stop people from "twinking" as if "using endgame gear in the beginning". The only thing they fixed was being able to invade someone with a maxed out weapon if they have a +0 weaponry and it was a completely fair addition.
Invaders are well within their right to do anything to get a victory, that would be true in any circumstances, but it's doubly true considering the game is stacked against them with them being outnumbered.
The dragon breath incantations are fundamentally stupid and goofy looking, but I've still got to admire the setup and table juke. Carebears are seething at this clip, but they know deep down that PvE doesn't drive interesting moment-to-moment gameplay quite like this.
>dark souls 3
>bonfire after pontiff
>pop dried finger and seed of giants
>utter mayhem ensues
one of my fondest gaming memories to be honest
>they've either got 2 bodyguards or disconnect/enter the boss room before i find them
Kill all hosts. Kill all summoned companions. Kill all blues.
That's pretty great.
Ok that's pretty funny but it wouldn't; have happened to me
There I was having a grand old time with my bestest of friends when a mean ol' invader showed up. I of course instantly started hyperventilating while my friends fruitlessly tried to console me to no effect. My game had been invaded, it would never be the same again. I of course ripped out my motherboard and smashed it with a hammer and will be pressing charges against this heartless bully. When will gaming be safe against these ruthless ruffians?
Ok before we go any farther can we actually define what "filtered" means? It seems like everyone here is just making shit up.
when I get invaded I just hack the game and bug your save file
hows that for hardcore pvp
this thread is like a bunch of criminals seething that people put locks on their doors and bought a dog
no not at all outside of your 75 IQ
i see the "i would rather the video game be fun than to be challenged" crowd has arrived
No I'm too busy complaining that I don't get 1v1s against people who has never played a souls games before
So anyways, I'm leaving this thread to go play some co-op with the lads.
See you there
No I won't, and you can't do SHIT about it
yeah, because nobody is playing that mod anymore
How would you ever know?
You casuals are obvious as day. You finish the game and you never return.
>so devoid of human contact it must shitpost for a little attention
>NOOOO STOP ENJOYING THINGS
Man, I love invasions back in the day but when I find out that ER has no covenants or rewards and a 4 player limit I didn't even try it.
All three games were great on the PvP front actually.
Ds1 had a charming jankyness to it
Ds2 was fucking dead with only duel fags in the blood covenant playing
Ds3 with ganks, covenants and constant activity was the peak.
>Ds2 was fucking dead
You mean arena was fucking dead. I got plenty of invasions with CREOs, plus rat covenant was dope, plus constant summons in dragon covenant to this day.
>Ds3 was the peak
I still enjoy my mage oneshot build, peak fun indeed.
Everything was fucking dead when I play 2, you could be invaded even when hollow and that never happened to me.
I was playing it right before they shut down the servers, and I was still getting rat invasions/dragon summons, even had one arena tryhard. Were you in the appropriate SM bracket for your location?
were you doing any cheat engine shenanigans? if you get banned they don't tell you about it and only put you in a server only with other banned people
It was my first time playing the game bro....As a matter of fact the one time I got invaded in iron keep was by an epic script kiddie, also game kept disconnecting for some reason, quite annoying.
That guy probably got you marked as a cheater, they can do that. Used to be they'd corrupt your character save to be unplayable too but I think that was patched.
Ludicrous anyone pretends to like this half-assed afterthought garbage PvP.
as soon as invaders started complaining about this mod it became clear that they see invasions as an entitled quantum state. As soon as they use the invasion item, they "deserve" to be in everyones game at once. If someone is playing co-op, an invader feels like they are owed a place in that persons game, regardless if they are using a mod, or even playing a relevant game. An "invader" will see someone post about playing co-op outside of a game and larp as an invader, even on a forum. They will talk about how they would invade you, or what they would do to you as an invader. Invaders (or at least the "hardcore pvp" types) are so entitled and desperate to "win" that they will create hypothetical invasions outside of a game just to get a "win" as an "invader". Its been happening for a decade now and this mod has only just made me realise how far-fetched and how ridiculous it is.
>as soon as invaders started complaining about this mod it became clear that they see invasions as an entitled quantum state. As soon as they use the invasion item, they "deserve" to be in everyones game at once. If someone is playing co-op, an invader feels like they are owed a place in that persons game, regardless if they are using a mod, or even playing a relevant game. An "invader" will see someone post about playing co-op outside of a game and larp as an invader, even on a forum. They will talk about how they would invade you, or what they would do to you as an invader. Invaders (or at least the "hardcore pvp" types) are so entitled and desperate to "win" that they will create hypothetical invasions outside of a game just to get a "win" as an "invader". Its been happening for a decade now and this mod has only just made me realise how far-fetched and how ridiculous it is.
so very true
Dont pat yourself on the back too much, your arm might come off.
mad because bad
>would rather bitch about vidya than enjoy it
why are you like this?
You see, bitching is all invader "chads" have left.
I’m just mad that this is the only good mod this game has and it’s just an enhancement of a game function that doesn’t change anything.
Why is modding for this game so shit? Lord knows the game could use some good mods
>Doesn't know about mods
>Doesn't search for mods
>Complains that he thinks there are no mods
Ok retard let me spoonfeed you
I said no good mods, reading comprehension.
Also linking TikTok’s, not doing much for the stigma of Elden ring threads being full of zoomer newfags
Unironically explain what the difference between tiktok and YouTube is. It's the same shit, I don't understand why Ganker went from early adopters of new tech to stubborn nostalgia fags who refuse to update their phones.
I use it for memes and music. And sometimes if a girl matches with me on tinder I can find her account and watch her shake her ass. If you ask me it's YouTube without the bullshit.
go away child this is a 18+ site
I'm 26. You're not cool for acting tech illiterate on a website. It just makes you look like a retarded hypocrite
What exactly do you want from a mod? These radically changed the gameplay to be more fast paced like devil may cry. There's plenty of outfit mods. New spells.
If you're wondering about new lands, that shit takes time and isn't easy to implement in an engine that's not designed to be modded.
So what is a good mood to you?
>radically changed the gameplay
They only change the players moveset, how is that making the base game any more fun when you can just nuke ever boss/area with your heckin wicked asset rip katana twirl
I asked you what you think is a good mod.
I’m editing your claim about moveset rips being examples of good mods, I don’t have to spoon feed you good mods from earlier games in the series just because you’ve only played Elden ring.
The fuck are you talking about. I'm genuinely curious about what you constitute as a good mod in your subjective opinion. I'm not asking for a spoonfeed you insufferable fucking cunt. Why are you trying to make this some argument I'm just asking a FUCKING QUESTION.
What. Is. A .good. mod.
Can you or can you not answer this simple question. Are you just shitposting so that anything someone recommends is a "bad mod" to you so you can always appear as a pretentious hack? Because I just assume you don't have anything to say. You just want to have a perpetual bitch fight.
Post something or Fuck off cunt.
Not that anon, but the randomizer mods are fun.
Also that one mod that lets you play DS1 in reverse.
Respectfully. I'm not asking for a recommendation. I'm just asking what this
gay thinks is a good mod because he just wants to act like an ironic cunt who shitposts instead of speak his genuine opinion in fear of also getting shit on.
I hate these disingenuous gays
The TikTok bit was secondary to my response. Why do you think moveset rips/swaps are an argument for “good mods”?
Tell me this is bait, like of all the shit in this thread this gay can't be genuine
Look I posted a picture from tumblr. Did I break another unspoken rule of this secret club? Did I get you upset?
Did you only want YouTube links? What's the fucking problem retard. Is using a new website too challenging?
>unironic tiktok links
why do they always add the worst music to exist in these videos?
there was that one mod that tweaked the moveset for most weapons and added a parry system ala Sekiro (not as busted obviously)
I remember when I actually got into heated arguments on this board. Funny to see young retards giving a fuck about some shitty game.
devilish beyond belief
>yoinked a river of blood
I FUCKING KNEEL
unfortunately this does nothing
they just copy their save, send the stuff over, then deleted the copied save without losing anything
holy shit this thread really proved the fear that invaders cause, kek
I'm waiting for the dlc to make a lvl 80 faith/dex invader. 50/50 on just using a mule because I already beat this game like 8 different times but I hate using them.
Shall be using a mule as well, couldn’t bear running through the game again as it’s become apparent to me that the game has no replay value on the single player side compared to old games.
Based lvl 80 chad though, shan’t be joining the meme overlevelled 150 str/dex/fai/int/arc “balanced hybrid” meta
>playing with gf
>I just want her to beat it in time for the DLC
>But she doesn't want me to use my main, she wants to level with me
>Invaderfag shows up
>Invader has duel vyke spears, scarlet rot items/spells, always chooses to fight near a a mini boss
I admit, invaders get me mad. It's literally the only time I get mad in dark souls. I'm more annoyed how I could easily solo them if I was one my main but my gf wants an authentic experience together.
Don’t really know what the issue is since there’s graces all over the place. You lose like 45 seconds of progress. Do people really take their deaths this harshly? You’re supposed to die.
I don't hate invaders, I hate twinking cunts. You know the ones who would invad you in dark souls 1 in full Havel and dark orb while you were just trying to reach the gargoyles?
We spend a moment fighting, I get killed first. My gf panics at fighting alone, she fights for a few minutes. We lose about 4 minutes of progress.
But it isn't the time. It's the attitude. Fuckers use scarlet rot and madness and instant kill me with their lvl160 build while we're still in limgrave at level 25. And they taunt your body as if it was skills. It's not awful but it's not a good experience. I would rather we fight 2 players at a similar level to us without any of the end game bullshit.
Especially since PvP and PvE builds are just not the same. An invader has a build specifically to fuck you up. While we're just doin some basic strat for a boss.
Still mindbroken a year later by a single mod? Embarrassing.
nobody is even mentioning the mod except the people who are against invasions. we simply dont care if you use the mod. quit making up strawmen to beat in your head
>invade in DaS
>have a lot of fun
>invade in DaS3
>have a lot of fun
>invade in ER
>have okayish fun
>install Seamless to play with friends
>have a lot of fun
Never going back. ER invasions are awful, although the Haligtree is my favorite spot to invade in the whole series next to Parish
What really boggles my mind is the sub-culture among soulsfag cultists that play the pvp in these games as if they were actual competitive fighting games. Like what the fuck kind of mental problems do you need to have to pretend the secondary feature of a PvE game is somehow equal in competitive viability to other games designed specifically for PvP only? People talk about how smashfags force smash to be competitive but at least smash as a base game revolves around fighting other players or at the very least CPUs in a fighting game-style setting. You can't say the same about these fucking jank ass games, yet you always see some youtube video of some guy running in a circle and changing gear every time he lands a hit and it's like... why? there's no fucking Elden Ring EVO PvP tournament, assholes. Go play a shooter or an actual fighting game, goddamn autistic retards.
its because it has a high skill ceiling
>its because it has a high skill ceiling
yes, it actually does. spacing, timing, and the vast amount of build variety/movesets make it so. even the shittiest build on a skilled player can beat a shitty player with an OP build.
>yes, it actually does.
cope however you want
>t.got filtered by a pvp system
>t. has never actually pvped
If the pvp skill ceiling isn't high why don't you get on and try to beat good players?
protip: you wont
>why don't you do pvp in a pve game
i swear this board needs a minimum IQ to post
>DOOD ITS A PVE GAME MAAAN!!
Why all souls games have arenas and pvp systems then? Its clear to me that is a PvEvP game but shitters like you act like PvP is not a thing because you suck at it.
regardless if you want to pvp or not, he completely refuted your statement. dont try to make arguments about the pvp if you cant even back it up with your own experience.
This is some of the worst cope I’ve ever seen
buzzwords are not an argument.
>complaining about buzzwords
no, those are actual tangible things in the game. you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.
who gives a fuck? there is an arena ingame that the devs added for the sole purpose of having people fight eachother, and while there is no "Evo tournament" people hold tournaments for money either way
just accept that you don't like the pvp and are bad at it
>because people enjoy it
"people enjoy playing with shit"
cry about it
>cry about it
lol lead the way champ you're the one asshurt about people laughing at you
i don't consider shitters "people" but yeah im so mad you are a clairvoyant or something haha
Get a job
why are you replying to me, OP? i only made 2 (now 3) posts itt so far. the other autist isnt me, though im having a laff over all this shit flinging.
I just don't turn the online mode on any souls game whatsoever. Online sucks unless it's coop. If you like pvp that's fine but don't harp on me for not wanting to have any part in it.
By the way, what happened to that sentinel thingy mod? Is it still working?
I used to invade the Haligtree at the Prayer Room. You wouldn't believe how many arcs I got because people don't know about revenant alley.
>can't cut it in competitive games
>go tryhard mode in games with no competitive scene
>try to dunk on others while being laughed out of the room
>”and nobody responded…”
>”because they were so right it left no room for argument.”
ITT: retards, carebears, and homosexuals
I haven't been invaded once in over 500 hours. PvP is dead in ER.
If you're solo You need to use the taunters tongue or invade someone else retard. Invaders won't attack you by default.
Well that's fucking gay
Casual shitters ruin another game
>retard just tries to facetank three people at once
pretty retarded. id whip out my rain of arrows greatbow and kill them from stealth with concealing veil.
The only “skilled” part about the pvp mechanics in any of these games is compensating for the lag. That’s it
That’s not a skill
if you like pvp, just go to the arena
>get pulled into an invasion as a blue
>the invader is running the same bow only build I am
Where’s that retard who linked his tiktoks of moveset swaps claiming that as evidence of the game having “good mods”
I’m not done with you yet
Besides linking tiktoks I alsolike to type "tumblr" into my filenames to piss you autists off. After a decade of posting I hate the unspoken rules here. Fuck off and stop being so sheltered.
This entire thread proves how retarded soulsfags are. Get a grip and go do something else gays.
Strangely autistic thread.
Anyway, invading hasnt been fun since DS1, they never put gravelording back in
gravelords dont invade though
This. Don't know why it took someone so long to say it.
Guess I’m the only one who actually enjoyed bb pvp, if only for nuking people off the face of the earth in nightmare of mensis with ACB
It has some fun gimmicks but the blood gem and bell systems, the shit netcode combined with faster movement completely shat on it
Guess I didn’t mind as much because I was the beneficiary of the bloodgem system in most invasions because I was autistic about having the best gems. It definitely was an unbalanced, buggy mess but most of the pvp in these games is because of the netcode. They’ll never been competitive in the slightest until that gets fixed
I'm not playing a PvE game for the forced gimmick PvP.
Fuck off to your mobas.
well if youre gonna coop, youre gonna be forced to pvp when you get invaded. otherwise, use the seamless coop mod its fun
Who said I was going to to co-op?
i didnt say you were, i just said "if"
how do invasions even work in elden ring? do you have to willingly open yourself up to them somehow? I have 70 hours in it but never got invaded unlike the other souls games.
you must either be cooping which opts you in for being invaded or use the taunters tongue, which makes invasions more likely and allows 2 invaders at a time.
ah, thats a much better system then getting invaded by some minmaxer with 1k hours in the game while im getting my ass kicked by a skeleton.
I had a lot of fun invading people on the angel fuckcorridor in Ringed City. It was one sided as all fuck because the angels did most of the work, but it was funny seeing people run around desperatly.
ER has really boring invasions. Everyone is running around with their overleveled buddies and now that the game already has some time to it, they all know every min-maxed build and OP gear.
8/10 times I invade in Liurnia as a low level char with level appropriate gear the host has RoB or Moonveil and the Co-Op guy is running around with a full poise build.
The irony is not lost on me, but I really wonder why would anyone want to invade (a choice) if it's almost guaranteed they'll lose, as opposed to get invaded (something they have no control over)
I made a similar complaint earlier.
Really, nothing can compare to PvP on release. Everyone was new, everyone was basic as shit. It was the most fun because it was always 3 dudes in basic knight armor slapping each other with level 1 swords. It was so pure.
I really wish we could have a sl1 PvP mode where it's just that. Not gimmicky bullshit. No shutter twink weapons and items and spells. Just a basic unmodded weapon.
Yeah, DS3 DLC invasions were probably the best in the series.
>why would anyone want to invade
It's a nice challenge
>if it's almost guaranteed they'll lose
The most fun I had with ER invasions were
1. Baiting people into lobsters in Liurnia
2. Baiting people into those giant skeletons near Castle Sol
3. Jar Cannon
>uses coop mod
bye bye lol
i legit see no invaders who complain about the users of seamless coop, but i see incessant, smugness from coopers who use it making up fake enemies in their head. seriously, why do you think youre making anybody mad? nobody cares if you use it.
>i legit see no invaders who complain about the users of seamless coop,
continuously making a claim doesnt magically make it true.
my claim is you are blind and it's very much true
>still no proof
>they think anyone will notice 2 pc shitters using cheats to not play the game
you don't make any difference invasions will be alive and well until the servers shut down lmao
then it works out for everyone
Good for them, we'll never interact so I don't really care, the closest to interaction I'll ever have with them is this discussion right now.
>immediately installed Seamless Coop
>never played the game without it, not even once
If it weren't for retards seething about the mod on Ganker I honestly wouldn't even know PvPers existed in this game.
You can mod out invaders? Gotta remember that for the next playthrough, I got pretty sick of of wasting my time with them near the end. Feel like invasion was a lot more popular in ER than other souls games.
We all can tell that you're just pretending.
Both sides in this thread are retarded.
You're a gay if you use the co-op mode to avoid invaders, it's just for mostly seamless co-op play.
You're also a gay if you think invading is a holy grail. They're mostly fun as a challenge and stomping some retards with a oneshot build is boring as fuck.
Doesn't help that Elden Ring PvP sucks compared to Souls and invasions are also less interesting. No covenants is the nail in the coffin.
I always invade with lore-appropriate fun builds and use the ring/talisman that makes me look like a host so that the coopers see an enemy that doesn't look out of place among the rest of the level.
There's no point when it's always 3v1.
use the tongue while solo then
Sure, but that's not invading.
but thats when its most fun
he could have done free hits during the spell casting but ran away instead
isn't this gay the portuguese guy with the giant list of things he "points down" in pvp?
>host has 2 butt buddies
>at least 1 vastly overleveled and holding the hosts hand through the game
>all using bleed or frost katanas
>despite all this they sit and wait in a safe room
>never receive help from a fellow invader even if i wait them out for 20+ minutes
ds3 was the best for invasions
1v2s were very manageable and satisfying, and if you got caught in a gank squad you could wait for another invader bro to show up within 5 minutes almost every time
they went way too far with coddling the host in ER all while removing the co-op invader covenants
Also for no fucking reason they removed the 6 player limit.
sounds like a skill issue
that's why the only sensible move is to use the Takbir crystal tear. If the guy wears no armor, just blow up next to him, if he's wearing armor then bait him near a ledge and blow up to make him fall to his death. It's the only way I found to make the invasions fun in this game, otherwise it's pure unadulterated garbage. Arena is ok.
What is it with people who play souls games or elden ring being so fucking retarded?
we are of a special kind
I've tried some of their games and I just don't get it. It took my retarded ass a long time and many do overs to get to that one crystal area with the slippery bits that isn't hard but just sucks and then quit. The rest I just beat a couple bosses and quit.
they are not for everyone
I get that man and honestly im just trying to find out why so many people have said these games are the best ever made. im 22 and I've somewhat grown up seeing countless videos praise all the souls games (not ds2) for being the greatest of all time. I do see why people like them but I don't understand the hyperbole and such.
Jesus Christ I'm 26 and I realize I need to explain shit to people who used to be ok my shoes.
Alright so the gist is. When dark souls 1 came out, third persons cation RPGs were basically abandoned and only used for movie games like uncharted, shit that had no gameplay.
In comes dark souls, with dedicated attacks tsy you can't just cancel out of. No floaty movements. Enemies that weren't just damage sponges, or brainlet punching bags. an RPG stat system that encouraged experimenting, a large seamless world that encouraged exploration and memorization. An aesthetic that's heavily inspired, epic and grand yet grounded. Compared to shit like dragon age where the combat was so brainless that it felt like it was made for 40 year old single mothers. And an aesthetic diarrhoea of oversized pauldrons and random spiky shit and too many belts.
Because final fantasy was basically the monopoly on third person RPGs, they also perpetuated a lot of retarded Tropes.
Also the story. Which wasn't crammed with unskippable cutscenes of quipping millenials who can't gone second with dissociated sarcasm. But actual theatre performers with undiscovered voices, reciting lines with actual genuine care and emotion.
Everything about it is good. And when you compare it to other games, they're just shit when you think about it. Dark souls basically set a standard for games. I can't play ass creed with its floaty unresponsive combat and fucking SHIT story and disingenuous characters. Breath of the wild is mindless combat for literal women, and exploration with no actual care put in.
What's more sad is how so many indie titles are failing to copy dark souls. they keep forcing this edgy grim dark setting that dark souls never had. Dark souls wasn't misery stacked on miser, it was grandiose epics that's past their prime and in decay, but interjected with small moments of serene beauty. So they obviously don't understand the nuance of dark souls to begin with
Sorry for the long post
I just really like them and there really isn't nothing like it
>I don't get why these games that came out when I was 7 years old have so much cultural significance!
I wonder why. You know, sometimes there is such a thing as being too young, and you might have to do some research as to why things are the way they are. That's like me asking why Pong was so influential, or Space Invaders, or Pac-Man. I wasn't alive, but I know WHY those things are influential, because I did some fucking research.
Jesus Christ, you kids.
so is the colosseum any good? what's a good level to fight in it?
It's okay, a ton of people play like passive bitches but that's just how pvp is in these games. It's not really worth your time.
>got kinda tired of ER invasions because ruleset sucks dicks
>fired up DS3
>made a level 50 dex invader
>95% of the hosts i invade are solo
>all of them are terrible shitters and literally free kills for someone who went through rigorous ER invasions ass whopping
Shame the game is so neutral heavy and the build variety is shit compared to ER because the invasion ruleset itself was absolutely perfect and i have no idea why they used this fucking abomination for Elden Ring.
>too shit to fight people, better go kill some easy noobs
I invaded and fought more ass aids ER ganks than you did invasions entirely, gay. If you mean duelmorony, then shove it up your ass, it's terrible in this series.
In DS3 the build variety is poor period. Basically no space for interesting hybrids, and magic sucks ridiculous amount of cocks for pvp. At meta level everything devolves either to STR builds or dark infused weapons.
>invade at level 50
>surprised there's no build variety
Ds3 has the best PvP. Specially because you start with one gay and it ends up becoming a war between blues, purples, reds and yellows.
>Ganker is still talking about a fucking mod that was forgotten by literally the entire playerbase MONTHS ago
>omg invaders must be seething so hard when i pull the plug
>mfw i just keep invading
>omg invaders must be seething so hard when i run into the boss fog!
>mfw i just keep invading
>omg invaders must be seething so hard when i tell them i have the co-op mod installed!
>mfw i just keep invading
>omg invaders must be seething so hard when i run into the boss fog!
I seethe a little bit, but at Fromsoft for removing fog wall backstabs.
i just consider it a win on their part and go next. if they ran to the boss fog, it's usually because i killed their phantoms and they don't want to fight anymore, or i spawned into yet another catacomb where the boss fog is right next to the summoning pool. occupational hazard.
you will watch the boss cutscene with me and you will like it
Do most fromsoft fans just have a mental illness? Or is it just people who made their games into their personality?
When I'm not invading I do co-op with taunters tongue and hope for some 2v2 or some chaotic shit with 2 invaders
what I don't get is why I'm seeing so many "hackers" on PS5 lately, people with infinite FP/Stamina who cast shit non stop, or glitch through walls so you can't hit them and cast WAs that go through anything. I find it fascinating to be honest, but I assume it's becuase the PS4 can be hacked. I remember playing DaS1-3 on PC and getting cursed instantly while playing online, nowadays consoles aren't safe either.
I blame this on the rise in competitive games and fps games trying to act like everything you do is an esport. Aka siege comp giving a rise in m&k use on console when only playing against controllers. Then there's warzone and it's community from infuencers to normal players relying on chronus max and other shit to get ahead.
PC ER unironically has fewer cheaters than PS4/PS5 nowadays. Say what you want about EAC, it serves as a barrier for cheat engine gays (as far as blatant infinite stats go) and nobody in his right mind will pay money to use active cheats in pvp. I think i saw one dude with obviously hacked stats in an entire year of ER.
This doesn't stop passive cheats like giving yourself every item in the game, hovewer, as they can be done offline. But it's nothing compared to the gayry hacked PS4s allow nowadays. I remember that BB already had cheaters several years back
Hosts deserve everything that happens to them
your character looks like a cock
>Summoning is easy mode.
>The AI can't handle 2+ players and it completely breaks the difficulty of the game.
>Invasions are a counterbalance to summoning completely breaking the difficulty of the game.
It's that simple. That's how the games are designed. If you get outsmarted or outplayed by another player who has to play within the same constraints as you and your potentially level 713 friends, that's that.
>you see this is how the game is intended to be played
>now let me go twink so I can invade
>do non twin invasion
>get anywhere close to host
>get killed by 3x moonveil spam
you can try to do an invasion without an optimized build or a gimmick build, but unfortunately, the way the game is set up makes that effectively impossible
that's why pvp sucks in these games, specially in ER
Password phantoms are the real twinks
I hate invader twinks but also hate summons twinks
it's pure bs
Invader twinks exist to shit on people having fun.
Hand-holding your extremely casual friend, or even your girlfriend through the game and letting them explore like a VIP Princess with a security team ready to protect them when things get too hairy. That's fun, and it's how the developers intended for casual players. It's also not annoying anybody except the invader fags that expect a fair fight, which are a minority. Every invader is twinking, nobody is going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I've seen invaders pretend to be low level boobs only to whip out a random twink weapon. It's gayry.
or the invaders equip their low level gear, then only whip out their op stuff because you're currently using a +10 moonveil
that's how it goes with me, invade someone and they're just going through stormveil with a random summon? switch to low level gimmick stuff and give them a fair challenge
invader has a password summon? anything goes
I remember first time I played ds3 I was with a friend as summon and we got invaded by a guy with the soul of cinder set
>Every invader is twinking, nobody is going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
This. Honestly, I've seen so much shit that I'm convinced you're a retard if you DON'T twink. I do leave truly honest hosts alone for the most part. I'm talking two retards dressed as Godrick soldiers who are just having a good time.
The funny thing about ER twinking, a shit ton of top tier low level invasion pvp setups are the ones you acquire super early
Storm stomp claymore, poison mist great epee, spiked caestus with endure, quickstep morning star, storm blade with anything, lion's claw zweihander, all that shit is SUPER early and absolutely crushing.
>invaderfags can't do anything about it
filtered? no, friend, going online is the real filter
Invading died when DS came to PC
If you were not doing invasions before then, you missed out on the peak
>peak invasions was console wi-fi and sub 30 FPS
>implying souls netcode has improved in any tangible way EVER over the course of the franchise
wi-fi isn't the issue
>Meanwhile, in reality
>always have bloodflame blade + fire's deadly sins for the op exploit
>proceed to phantom bleed every invaderfag with a crescent halberd with bloodhound step equipped
so satisfing, they always run but they can't do shit thanks miyazaki.
bluefags are the worst, all they do is feed
Never summoning them again
>mods can fix shitty co-op
>mods cant fix shitty invasions
its not fair
what do you mean
its a bit of a giveaway that "hardcore pvp invaders" dont have friends to play with because they complain about low level people summoning "level 300" players to help them but if that was the case then their HP would be fucked by the hard stat reduction that makes you a compatible level to the host. your max health can actually become lower than the minimum health of any starting class if you have particularly high stats and not enough HP investment.
I remember lower hp than my friend in ds1 when he summoned me, he was starting the game and I was at the end before gwyn
also since we are in the topic of multiplayer inbalance, 2 people fighting a boss will be easier than solo, but 3 people will almost always make it way harder
I have a friend to play with. We also tend to use taunter's tongue to get more invaders. Both of us are kinda disgusted about how much advantage this game allows you to stack because we're generally never fucking losing despite using suboptimal and dumb shit.
The problem with downscaled morons is that their flat resistances and status buildup doesn't get reduced to normal values. This leads to them having over 50% damage resistance to the damage you're doing on low levels, as well as ability to bleed you in one hit.
i mean some builds can just bleed in one or two hits normally, bleed is very strong in pvp. but i could swear resistances get reduced as well, when i got booted from a friends game on a high level character all my status bars appeared on the screen like my resistances had been increased upon coming back to my own world
No it doesn't. The game just applies a very poorly thought out % based filter to a downscaled moron's HP and damage values while completely forgetting about flat defense values. The difference in survivability between a high level summon and a player of this level is fucking absurd.
And you're fucking brainless if you think it's possible to bleed in 1 hit on low levels naturally. No, that shit comes from having 150 fucking bleed buidlup on your weapon BEFORE dualwielding and seppuku.
This are the issues people have been complaining about when it comes to downscaled phantoms. Downscale them properly and nobody would complain. Yet this shit persisted in this form since DS3.
also don't forget how invader weapons don't scale down properly either
their raw damage output is still about 3-4 times higher than even a min-maxed twink
AND there's a glitch where if you use a phantom finger to teleport during invasion, the damage filter on a downscaled cooper disappears and he starts doing full damage to you.
This fucking cooper only got 398 damage from a giantsflame pot that typically hits for nearly 600, and i assume he weren't even particularly high level either, around level 100-120.
i mean you dont have to bite my head off because i mention builds that can bleed you in 1 or 2 hits and then you go and explain that some builds can bleed in 1 or 2 hits, its confusing for you to call be brainless AND agree with me that it can happen.
I think this sentiment comes from the fact that basically everyone was using bleed weapons and that fucks you up regardless of level
bleed truly is the games greatest equalizer and greatest issue all at once
the only thing I ever have an issue with is when hosts are doing the AFK farming thing, granted I am still able to kill them with well aimed a Jar Cannon but more so for the fact of that they are wasting their own time, they could be playing the game but opt for a really inefficient way of getting runes
I like to use the tongue and then mimic vail and see if they can find me haha
>want to do multiplayer
>ultrawide mod disables online
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PROPER PC PORT HACKAZAKI
>he fell for the meme
I like ultrawide other than the performance hit and the inconsistent support
it's pretty good in FPSes, means I can have lower FoV while still seeing more than a 45 degree angle in front of my head
I just started replaying Elden Ring recently to get a character ready for the DLC, I'm doing DEX/FTH and I just stumbled upon this Fire's Deadly Sin/Bloodflame Blade combo, this has to be a bug right? I'm going to keep using it because it's cool, but it doesn't strike me as intentional.
>ER invasions are cucked
>DS:PTDE online is abandoned
not looking good invadebros
funnily enough two of the worst pvp's in the series
>DS:PTDE online is abandoned
Remaster's online is alive.
I hope Japan sinks into the sea and their abominable video-game culture disappears forever.
if downscaling is fair then it would also be fair for max level invaders to invade anyone and be downscaled the same way summons are
Funny how Wo Long just allowed everyone to downscale and upscale during invasions. While properly reducing your stats and flat values, no less.
It would be cool if Invaders weren't always metatrannies
as an invader i agree. i just make characters that look cool. on the other hand i understand, because half the time or more, i only invade overleveled metaslaves as well.
Invaders are forced into being metaslaves because otherwise they will get their shit bashed in before even being able to swing their weapon
>normalfags playing coop
>Invade them with broken bleed build and wreck them
>WE NEED TO SUCK COCKS AND METAGAME
Fuck off lol
>invade normalfags playing coop at stormveil
>all 3 of them are spamming moonveils they got after watching a youtube video
>BRO WHY ARE YOU METAGAMING AT LEVEL 20
fuck off lol
it would be cool if hosts werent metatrannies either
or summoned their overleved metachud friends
invaders are metatrannies by necessity, whats the hosts and summons excuse?
daily reminder to block invaderfags on steam/psn/xbl, especially streamers such as
oroboro the fag
My problem with DS2 pvp is how much of a hassle it is to even set up a permanent invader. It got kinda better with the wex dust mod we have now, but it's still fucking dumb. Whereas in 3 i can just make an invader within a few hours and invade permanently.
Why do hosts always have a gang of phantoms escorting them through the level? I mean I've used player summons before for bosses that I had trouble with but you'd have to be really shit to need people escorting you.
in ER you can only invade hosts with summons unless they're using the taunter's tongue
Luv me invading, luv getting invaded. I'm glad that the seamless coop mod didn't really have an effect on PC online at all
Have you ever seen a normie play this game, or any souls game? They act like death isn't completely inconsequential and if they die they'll actually die in real life. Thus they play with excess caution
>Why are people playing and exploring a game marketed as a semi open world
>with their friends
It is a mystery, truly.