i said nothing that was a shitpost, this isn't me gaslighting you. i'm informing you that you told that guy who replied to me that i'm a shitposter with the other guy he quoted.
Yeah. She is a village girl whose family has been killed and her hometown destroyed thanks to the army of soldiers who wanted to help and fight against Zant's army one year before the events of the game. She hates violence, conflicts of any kind, and people who solve problems by spilling blood even in self-defense. She hated Link for being a "soldier", a man with a weapon of war who takes pride in ending lives and taking part in violent conflicts in Hyrule that only create more sacrifices in the process. Her mentality hit Link when he was basically at rock bottom which led him to rethink his purpose in life. She and Link are kind of similar in a way. She later came to the conclusion that taking part in conflict is worth it as long as taking one life ensures that 20 others can be preserved. She also started developing feelings for Link when he made her realize how strong she is as a person and how much she managed to accomplish for her family and him despite being all alone in the world for such a long time.
Many people joke about her being author's shameless Shojo self insert girl seeing how Anika is basically the best choice for Link after Midna left to Twilight realm forever
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Anonymous
>basically the best choice for Link after Midna left to Twilight realm forever
What about illia?
I stopped expecting Nintendo to be good around 2012 and BOTW/TOTK killed my interest in Zelda. I'll still replay OOT for the 50th time, but don't expect anything.
OoT remake with full integration of dating sim elements like originally proposed. >all cute girls, even the fish one >only heterosexual outcomes >endless think-pieces and seething tweets, screencaps of which are endlessly reposted here
i still really do not understand how their weird ass tribal skeleton dude is supposed to be OoT link when the only feature he remotely shares visually is being left handed. its an absolute fucking retcon
this is what a character that was meant to be a link (or at least a reference to him) from the beginning would be designed like.
couple that with concept designs for the heros shade being a samurai and a woman, its clear no one was thinking of him as being anything other than a random ancestor of TP Link, and that's at very best
>i still really do not understand how their weird ass tribal skeleton dude is supposed to be OoT link when the only feature he remotely shares visually is being left handed. its an absolute fucking retcon
Not really. HoT after Zelda sends him back in time goes through the rest of his life without having to fight another Ganon or go on a big mission to save Hyrule (presumably). His life probably takes a much different direction, and resembling this grotesque forgotten hero adds to the theme of his legend being effectively erased. Also, considering most 3D Links post OoT have a variety of outfits (HoW and HoTwi dont even begin with the green tunics), I dont think its farfetched to say he got a wardrobe swap. >couple that with concept designs for the heros shade being a samurai and a woman, its clear no one was thinking of him as being anything other than a random ancestor of TP Link, and that's at very best
You underestimate how much can change at the design phase. V from DMCV was originally drawn as a chick in early concept art before becoming goth human-Vergil
Also: >Hero's Shade wolf form plays several OoT and MM songs during his training segments
IIRC no one save for the HoT would have access to any of those songs unless he just decided to pass them all down randomly. The Song of Healing is especially noteworthy since it originates in Termina, and no one from Hyrule would have access to it save for the Happy Mask Salesman.
Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that. They're just musical references, same thing the series always does with music.
OoT Link starts with the green tunic and uses the hylian shield, and he retains it even into Majora's Mask. He also has all the same memories and skillset as Adult OoT Link, so it's not like he is some completely different character, despite the world not knowing about his journey against Ganon, he himself still lived it. It's a part of his image, and the weapons he uses are a part of his skillset.
When they use the concept of a previous Link showing up in ALBW, it's not outright stated, but he has everything that makes Link. His tunic is recognizable. His weapons are all the same. He can even use the Master Sword. Compare this to the Hero's Shade that was supposed to be a Link that we are very well acquainted with across two games, in both stages of his life at that, and is easily a the top 5 iconic vidya character of all time, and they really would not use anything iconic to the Hero of Time, and the Hero of Time alone?
I just think if they moved beyond the Hero's Shade being some other character like the samurai or the woman during the design phase, and into it being this one specific Link, the design would have been changed to reflect that.
Last thing to mention: Hero of Shade is also like a foot taller than the Hero of Time. Sure clothes is one thing, but height?
I always envisioned the heroes shade to be the embodiment of the spirit of the hero and when he calls link part of his bloodline he means it figuratively because he’s the next in line to the line of heroes. Any other way it makes zero sense because TP takes place several hundred years after OOT and the triforce of courage wouldn’t be passed to just some random descendent.
I don't agree with that, Hero's Shade definitely makes himself out to be a literal person that once lived a life and is now dead. Not an embodiment of anything
I just don't think he was meant to be THE Hero of Time as opposed to some other nameless knight ancestor of Link.
>Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that.
OOT Link is the Hero of Time so its not out of the question that he gained more abilities off screen to see different timelines.
if you listen to the WW song from TP its noticeably different. I'd assume the wind god & the song exists in all timelines but because of the differences in them and how people could've passed them down the song itself changed slightly.
OOT link already is a song collector in both OOT and MM so its not wild to assume he'd inevitably learn the Wind Song at some point
He was just feeling a bit edgy because he'd rather be in Hyrule Heaven shooting thick ghost ropes in Malon's spirit pussy, but that fucker Ganondorf came back.
Its not a retcon lol. The game itself makes it very obvious its OOT Link as when you meet him he plays the song of healing to try and turn you back from wolf to human.
I hate this theory, it's the gayest theory, that this undead swordmaster is OoT link turned into a stalfos. it's the gayest gay theory and you're a massive gay for perpetuating it. homo.
>No single hero is blood related to another >except just this one bro >the method that the hero is some random dude rising above us ruined
And that’s why TP is retconned by skyward sword…
just saying, it's cooler to think that this hero's shade is the spirit of courage or some shit, some supernatural entity, the idyllic form of a demigod that represents a cosmic justice. a force for good against evil. it could also just be the triforce of courage speaking directly through link's psyche, thus allowing him to tap into past lives and learn techniques that were "handed down by heroes past" or whatever the fuck. you know, like how aang in the last airbender can speak to avatar kyoshi, roshi, etc through the spirit realm, especially because he's talking to a past version of himself. all those memories and experiences are stored in his collective psyche as the avatar, and it's cool to imagine something similar with the bearer of the triforce of courage, because he is effectively a reincarnation of a previous hero. or some shit.
Them being related is part of what makes Twilight Princess such a great threequel to OoT/MM. The tale of OoT's iconic villain returning to world, and the descendant of that same hero who did him in the first time being mentored by his ancestor to finish the job. It's meat and potatoes storytelling, and the fact that you have to hoist up the worst 3D Zelda as an example of 'doing it right' is telling.
>that this undead swordmaster is OoT link turned into a stalfos
Was this bit about him being a Stalfos actually in Hyrule Historia or something? I thought it was just parroted by "GAAYYYMMEEE THEORY" types.
if it's another remaster can they please not ruin the lighting/textures/whatever like TWWHD and TPHD did
I thought WWHD handled it well for the most part, but in TPHD it looked butt ugly.
just saying, it's cooler to think that this hero's shade is the spirit of courage or some shit, some supernatural entity, the idyllic form of a demigod that represents a cosmic justice. a force for good against evil. it could also just be the triforce of courage speaking directly through link's psyche, thus allowing him to tap into past lives and learn techniques that were "handed down by heroes past" or whatever the fuck. you know, like how aang in the last airbender can speak to avatar kyoshi, roshi, etc through the spirit realm, especially because he's talking to a past version of himself. all those memories and experiences are stored in his collective psyche as the avatar, and it's cool to imagine something similar with the bearer of the triforce of courage, because he is effectively a reincarnation of a previous hero. or some shit.
no, not the hero of time, if anything the moniker would be more nondescript, something like the "Bearer of Courage" or some shit, because no two iterations of link are the same, they all bear different titles, the one thing that ties them all together is that they hold the triforce of courage, and furthermore the hero's shade could just be a manifestation of the triforce of courage itself, appearing to link within his own mind and guiding him so he may fulfill his destiny. none of this implies that the hero's shade is the link from OoT, at least not his corporeal form, and not his specific personality, but perhaps you could say that his essence is present, along with the collective spirit of all past heroes.
I just think its dumb to write it like that when a supposed "Spirit of Courage" has never appeared outside of TP to train a new Link. Its an obvious plothole. Hero's Shade being the HoT makes drastically more sense considering the setting and circumstances of the whole story. I think "HoT is a DEAD STALFOS!!!" is retarded, but Hero's Shade being HoT still makes a lot of sense and offers a solid conclusion to his character.
Them being related is part of what makes Twilight Princess such a great threequel to OoT/MM. The tale of OoT's iconic villain returning to world, and the descendant of that same hero who did him in the first time being mentored by his ancestor to finish the job. It's meat and potatoes storytelling, and the fact that you have to hoist up the worst 3D Zelda as an example of 'doing it right' is telling.
Based, took the words out of my mouth.
Why is the stalfospill so hard to swallow Ganker?
Circumstantial evidence is enough to sentence a man to death so it has to be enough to figure out the truth without all the puzzle pieces.
Yeah it sucks my boy the hero of time died abused and confused in lost woods but at least he isn't a gay homosexual like BotW link.
Actually now that I think about it being an immortal skeleton is pretty cool.
>Why is the stalfospill so hard to swallow Ganker?
Because its retarded. >HoT can traverse the Lost Woods just fine as an adult in OoT and in MM >TP Link is the blood descendant of the HoT >if Link gets lost and dies right after MM, he can't establish a bloodline for TP >HoT somehow learns Ballad of Gales at some point in his life (implied), so he'd still have adventures outside the Lost Woods >Link is unaffected by threats posed to non-Kokiri in the Kokiri Forest and Lost Woods because of his childhood with them/he's built different >saying "The main protag got lost in the woods and died" is a horrible way to conclude a character and I refuse to accept it
>I just think its dumb to write it like that when a supposed "Spirit of Courage" has never appeared outside of TP to train a new Link
ok but TP could've set a precedent. we know that it didn't, but it could've, and that would've offered an explanation of this character's nautre. again, I'm not saying that this is the truth, just that it's gay that people think hero's shade is OOT link. that's gay. it does not make sense. how does it make sense? but, eh, when it comes down to it, I'm not that invested in the discussion, I just view this character as a tutorial character who teaches you new moves and shit. does he really need a backstory?
Speculated for nearly two decades, confirmed a decade ago, and virgins here dismiss it to this day. It’s really funny, I don’t understand what’s the issue behind it.
yeah who cares about hyrule historia? that shit was scrapped together with old bits of fanfiction and spit. it's by no means some definitive codex of knowledge. it was just put out because nintendo are dumb and wanted to cater to timeline fags.
>Was this bit about him being a Stalfos actually in Hyrule Historia or something?
nah it was just a gay theory that gay tendies of times past made up because xDDD deep lore or whatever.
It reeks of 2005
I can't tell if you think it's better or not than hero's shade = OOT link.
I'd say TWWHD looked better than TPHD overall, the former was done in-house and yeah it ruined the toon look, but at least it didn't have impossibly stupid shit like removing definition (textures) from character model faces to show off the new lighting
Why is the stalfospill so hard to swallow Ganker?
Circumstantial evidence is enough to sentence a man to death so it has to be enough to figure out the truth without all the puzzle pieces.
Yeah it sucks my boy the hero of time died abused and confused in lost woods but at least he isn't a gay homosexual like BotW link.
Actually now that I think about it being an immortal skeleton is pretty cool.
you could make the argument that link isn't an ordinary person who would be affected by the influence of the lost woods. you could equally make the argument that the idea that 'outsiders will be turned into stalfos if they enter the lost woods' is itself inaccurate, a thing that the kokiri made up just to keep people out of their business. or maybe it's something they actually believe but does not accurately reflect reality. even assuming it is true, why would link, who is very familiar with the area, be suddenly swallowed up by the lost woods and turned into a stalfos? he's the most capable person in hyrule, and to just jump to this conclusion without any evidence is gay. hence why it is a gay theory for gays.
HE CLEARLY GOT OLD AND WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN THOSE WOODS
HE SPENT SO LONG THERE THAT HE DIED AND BECAME A STAFOS
THE WORLD BETRAYED HIM BECAUSE HE NEVER SAID A WORD
Speculated for nearly two decades, confirmed a decade ago, and virgins here dismiss it to this day. It’s really funny, I don’t understand what’s the issue behind it.
>nothing about Stalfos theory >no explanation for why >he just is the Hero's Shade
One single statement caused untold seethe
Doubt they do anything at the VGAs. They keep announcements to their own Directs
Dunno. They revealed the first Smash DLC at the end of the VGAs years ago. Im not expecting anything, but Im not ruling it out
Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that. They're just musical references, same thing the series always does with music.
OoT Link starts with the green tunic and uses the hylian shield, and he retains it even into Majora's Mask. He also has all the same memories and skillset as Adult OoT Link, so it's not like he is some completely different character, despite the world not knowing about his journey against Ganon, he himself still lived it. It's a part of his image, and the weapons he uses are a part of his skillset.
When they use the concept of a previous Link showing up in ALBW, it's not outright stated, but he has everything that makes Link. His tunic is recognizable. His weapons are all the same. He can even use the Master Sword. Compare this to the Hero's Shade that was supposed to be a Link that we are very well acquainted with across two games, in both stages of his life at that, and is easily a the top 5 iconic vidya character of all time, and they really would not use anything iconic to the Hero of Time, and the Hero of Time alone?
I just think if they moved beyond the Hero's Shade being some other character like the samurai or the woman during the design phase, and into it being this one specific Link, the design would have been changed to reflect that.
Last thing to mention: Hero of Shade is also like a foot taller than the Hero of Time. Sure clothes is one thing, but height?
>Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that
Not necessarily. The song is taught by a wind god in WW. There's nothing that suggests they wouldn't exist in the Child Timeline, but that's a whole other autistic discussion. The point is its not impossible for the HoT to have learned it after MM.
As for the design, I believe its intended to really reinforce the notion of this being a forgotten hero. Yeah, the HoT still experienced everything in OoT and MM, but that's the point; for all his deeds, he's not remembered as a hero in his own time. He has no legend, no one to pass his legacy onto, he's a soldier in a time of peace; there's nothing for him to do. Hence his regret and lingering desire. The ambiguity of him also builds on the idea >Last thing to mention: Hero of Shade is also like a foot taller than the Hero of Time. Sure clothes is one thing, but height?
It looks cooler lol. I dont have an explanation for this one beyond him growing up differently or his soul just taking a different appearance
>Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that.
OOT Link is the Hero of Time so its not out of the question that he gained more abilities off screen to see different timelines.
well theres not much more for me to say I guess. You very well could be right but it's a bit hard for me to buy the developers going >yeah okay he supposed to be hero of time but, get this, let's make it so that he threw away everything that made him him across these two games and also lets make him way taller for no reason so that it definitely cant be confirmed or even really hinted at visually; lets give him songs he didn't know but just let the player assume he magically somehow picked up a song from a different timeline offscreen haha; and lastly lets also just not let him say outright that he's the hero of time either
oh well
guess i just cant understand the tp writers mindset, albw developers way of doing it makes much more sense to me
Nintendo have made it very clear they have zero interest in going back to the old Zelda style. BOTW Link is the only Link now. The next game will probably still be BOTW Link but just in a different region with new gameplay style.
it'd be kino ngl but it's not gonna happen, zelda is open world ubislop with fortnite building mechanics now. look I don't even hate BOTW/TOTK but the point is old zelda is dead and it's not coming back. I'd be surprised if they did a whole new game, a continuation of MM, and not just put out yet another port, or maybe one of those special edition gold themed compilations like the gamecube collector's edition.
They actually announced that they will not be using the same map for the 3rd time.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn't say anything about same map. Its just going to be BOTW Link and Zelda again but in a new country or whatever. Not in Hyrule.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
there is no where in that world that isn't hyrule you retard
it's the planet hyrule
where the fuck is he supposed to go?
you literally pulled that out of your ass you mong
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Dude there are neighboring countries. Akkala citadel in BOTW has cannons positioned toward the sea. Holodrum, Labrynna, ETC
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the cannons are for pirates you dumbass
get the fuck off my planet hyrule with that stupidity
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>planet Hyrule
Nope.
King Rhoam is from an outside territory.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Next you're going to tell me that there's a planet dodongo in your ass.
Keep drinking that bleach bro
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Zelda man said Hyrule is on Earth in an interview with I think it was game informer.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why you seething? Just a different land mass or the sea or whatever. Who cares. Its just going to be the same Link and Zelda from botw and totk but in a different location from botw and totk.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There are landmasses off in the distance at sea that you can see, also the cliffs that you cant go over either.
In other games there are always places outside of Hyrule as well. The planet has never been Hyrule. It's always way too small. and always blocked off
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Play the Oracles games dumbass
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Miyamoto already answered this question and he says the world is "earth" "earth-like" and Hyrule is just a part of it.
Hytopia is literally a different kingdom just north of Hyrule.
Play the Oracles games dumbass
True but also kinda tricky because Nintendo also says since 2011 that Holodrum and Labrynna are in separate realities.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>2011 that Holodrum and Labrynna are in separate realities.
Imagine taking anything nintendo says as fact and literal. Just take what’s from the games. I’m so sick of these game books and retarded off the cuff interviews rewriting what we know.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Just take what’s from the games.
the games kinda imply it too because of the deku tree occupying the same space despite being in two different kingdoms.
But then again it doesn't make sense with Link's Awakening's voyage to or from the Oracle games if it was a different reality.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
It’s the same shit with people saying OOX Link isn’t the hero of legend simply because of one remark from Zelda. Except that Link is already a hero at the start of OOX, hears the call of the triforce and is given express access to it because by then he is already the keeper of the triforce. Zelda should have known him. Seemed like a translation error or a mistake by capcom. At the end of OOX he even gets in the same boat as LA, and at the start of LA he references Zelda as he already knows her
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Zelda should have known him.
I had assumed the wish to fix everything at the end of ALttP had the adverse effect of undoing Link/Zelda having ever met. Like wishing for everything to go back to the way it was before Agahnim took over also meant the events that led to Link/Zelda meeting never happened at all. Hence Zelda not recognizing Link in OoX makes sense if the wish retconned their meeting
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
This is possible. I didn’t think about it like this. Curious as the ending of ALTTP indeed does not show Link and Zelda together. Good take
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I doubt that ever being the case. AST, though not canon anymore, was written as a direct sequel and Zelda definitely didn't forget the events of ALttP, which shows developer intent from that period in time.
I don't think Nintendo is interested in targeting boomers with a sequel to OOT and MM. They target the zoomer audience these days and zoomers wouldn't give a fuck about a sequel to OOT and MM.
Ya'll niggas is going to be disappointed when all this leak shit is just going to be ports of the wiiu versions of WW and TP and ports of the 3DS versions of OOT and MM.
nintendo for whatever reason will NEVER port 3DS games to switch except for Miitopia
You'd swear they were honoring their third pillar thing and didnt replace the 3DS
why does this homosexual tell so many lies? What does he gain from it? Does he have a patreon or something? https://zippospeaks.blogspot.com/2023/11/he-will-return.html#comments
Should I watch the Hero's Purpose SFM videos
Are they kino, cringe kino, or just cringe
The guy's channel has OoT AMVs from ten years ago so my money's on the middle but I don't know if I'm mentally ready
>separate entity based on a manle adventurer and later his descendant in TP >meanwhile every new Zelda gets built atop Skyward Sword's diarrhea bedrock where Link's sole purpose is to be a waifufag for Zelda at all times
Okay.
yeah skyward sword was a soft reboot that's why they went back to the very beginning of the timeline for it
bye bye golden goddesses hello hylia
zelda and link are not longer just acquaintances most of the time and rarely hinted to be lovers sometimes, they are now eternal soulmates bound by divine right
no it didnt start with ganondorf actually all it was all an ancient eternal evil from the primordial ooze
and it cant be killed so it's going to be around in some capacity in ever game going forward
Hero's "Shade" I took to mean it wasn't literally the OoT's spirit/soul, but a reflection of his regrets. The idea that Time regrets not being remembered for the hero he became and left behind a semblance of his being that would be able to pass on his skills to a worthy descendent I thought was a cool aspect, but I don't think it means Time literally turned into a Stalfos. It just takes on that appearance because he's a spirit mainly comprised of a lingering regret, which usually describes undead.
Realistically, what's stopping anyone from just developing their own game based off classic Zelda? Nintendo's not going to use the formula anymore. There's a whole chunk of Zelda fans hungry for something like the older games. How come no devs want to capitalize on it? Do people just not understand what made OoT, MM, and what came before magical?
Literally skill. It's so easy to go "everyone loves Zelda games, why doesn't anyone ape them?" but it realistically takes a lot of design skill to create a bunch of interconnected dungeons in a huge interconnected world using original items and mechanics that tie it all together. For this reason there are only SOME 2D Zelda-likes, but virtually no 3D ones, because it's just too much for amateur indie devs. Zelda games were developed by seasoned professionals often with decades of experience.
Can someone please explain the function of the triforce to me?
I don't really understand how the pieces separated work.
The triforce of power is the only one that seems to grant any abilities to the wielder by making them more powerful but the triforce of courage and triforce of wisdom don't really do ...anything?
Remember Link didnt't even use/need the trifoce of courage is many games, so it doesn't do anything.
The triforce of wisdom also doesn't seems to give Zelda anything, her sealing abilities are separate to the triforce.
Yea I know Nintendo doesn't care anymore but I'm asking for when they did.
Triforce of Wisdom = Magic, I'm pretty sure most of Zelda's abilities and spells are based on knowledge gifted to her by the Triforce
Triforce of Courage = fate hax, I think it's the canon explanation for how even when Link 'dies' (ie gets a game over) he keeps coming back
>Triforce of Wisdom = Magic, I'm pretty sure most of Zelda's abilities and spells are based on knowledge gifted to her by the Triforce
Wrong, even as far back as OoT Zelda is acknowledged to have special powers due to the lineage of the royal family (you know this thanks to the composer brothers talking about it) So her powers don't come from the triforce, her sealing powers were always from her royal blood later explained to be from Hylia.
Triforce of Wisdom = Magic, I'm pretty sure most of Zelda's abilities and spells are based on knowledge gifted to her by the Triforce
Triforce of Courage = fate hax, I think it's the canon explanation for how even when Link 'dies' (ie gets a game over) he keeps coming back
>riforce of Courage = fate hax, I think it's the canon explanation for how even when Link 'dies' (ie gets a game over) he keeps coming back
I don't really buy it.
Link did most of WW without it (the triforce of courage didn't think WW Link was a true hero hence why he manually had to gather each piece), MM without it, all the fourtswords games without it.
It's not really explaining why they were successful on their mission.
the triforce is a holy artifact left behind by the three goddesses of hyrule. it has immense power, but only when fully intact. only a pure and balanced person can acquire the fully intact triforce. if a person whose heart is mired by lust or greed, or otherwise lacks some other aspect of the triforce's perfection, were to try and acquire the triforce, they would only receive the piece that they most resonate with, and the other two pieces would reject this person and seek out two others who would make suitable candidates for its power. ganondorf in ocarina of time lusted for power, so he received only the triforce of power, which is immense on its own. it allows him to do incredible things, like change his form but it's not the fullest extent of the power. therefore, the only way an imperfect one can acquire the full extent of its power is to track down the bearers of the other aspects and take it from them forcibly.
the triforce of courage gives its bearer the courage to see through their mission. basically you're granted the godlike ability to face your fears, face doubt and uncertainty, etc. furthermore the triforce of knowledge gives its bearer an aptitude for acquiring and using information to the best of its application. basically, you're granted sage like insight and intellect. it may also be the case that the bearer of knowledge can receiving supernatural like visions, as we know that zelda was already having prophetic dreams prior to receiving the aspect of knowledge.
now, the argument against this theory is thus: since the triforce seeks out these people who already inhabit these qualities, then it would seemingly have no effect, but I would argue that the triforce deemed them the perfect candidate to inahbit expressly because of this fact, so it will further enhance these qualities in those who it inhabits.
>the triforce of courage gives its bearer the courage to see through their mission.
Except for those links that finished the missons without the need. It's just not clearly explained but I understand what you're getting at.
Zelda's abilities don't come from the triforce though, her visions and sealing powers are because of her royal blood.
Yea I know Nintendo doesn't care anymore but I'm asking for when they did.
[...] >Triforce of Wisdom = Magic, I'm pretty sure most of Zelda's abilities and spells are based on knowledge gifted to her by the Triforce
Wrong, even as far back as OoT Zelda is acknowledged to have special powers due to the lineage of the royal family (you know this thanks to the composer brothers talking about it) So her powers don't come from the triforce, her sealing powers were always from her royal blood later explained to be from Hylia.
[...] >riforce of Courage = fate hax, I think it's the canon explanation for how even when Link 'dies' (ie gets a game over) he keeps coming back
I don't really buy it.
Link did most of WW without it (the triforce of courage didn't think WW Link was a true hero hence why he manually had to gather each piece), MM without it, all the fourtswords games without it.
It's not really explaining why they were successful on their mission.
people used to say that triforce of courage gave link undertale save reload powers kek
fun times
I don't get it. If Link is unkillable while wielding the Triforce of courage then how did he lose to ganondorf in oot, creating the downfall timeline?
>then how did he lose to ganondorf in oot, creating the downfall timeline?
The downfall timeline contradicts OOT entirely.
the Deku Tree stated it was Link's destiny to defeat Ganondorf, meaning he was never going to ever lose.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He didn't say that. He said that Link is Hyrule's final hope, which is true even in the downfall timeline since the sages are successful in sealing Ganon thanks to Link's prior efforts. >The youth whose destiny it is to lead Hyrule to the path of justice and truth...
This is still true no matter the timeline.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>This is still true no matter the timeline.
Hmm. I don't think so. Link dying against Ganon in OOT would lead Hyrule to destruction, not justice and truth.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It didn't though, his sacrifice lead to the awakened sages sealing Ganon.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
I don't know. I don't think too hard about it anymore. I liked the old days. When I was growing up and OOT and MM just came out, we just considered Link to be a different character every game. We had LA, ALTTP (I didn't play AOL or Zelda 1 until we got the Wind Waker demo CD). When WW came out, we were so fucking confused. even with Nintendo power had had absolutely no idea where that game took place. Only until TP came out we really understood, "oh, timelines"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know, I used to post on Zelda Legends, Universe and Informer religiously. It's obvious that the DT is a cop-out to address the inconsistencies with having OoT as the Sealing War while TWW very obviously stole ALttP's spot on the AT. As much as I don't like the DT, I don't find it particularly contradictory other than it existing because of a "what if".
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Believe it or not, ALTTP - > OOX -> AOL -> Zelda 1 - > Zelda 2 are the most consistent games in the series.
The lore was intentionally vague and full of old 21st century fantasy tropes. It was perfect that way. They ruined everything with OOT and its timeline sequels.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
old 20th century*
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ALTTP -> OOX -> AOL
You probably meant LA rather than AoL, which I agree with. I would like to add that one of the earlier drafts of OoT's story more closely aligned with ALttP's manual, so the inconsistencies it brought to the table were an unfortunate side effect of its tumultuous development. I can respect the intent Osawa and the others had for Zelda 64.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Yeah my bad. Didn’t even see that typo. Anyway I’m getting out the thread now. I can’t deal with this nut everyday.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
nothing in the series is inconsistent
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That’s a load of shit and you know it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are responding to my post so I'll assume you understand the context. Back in the late '90s, there was absolutely a glaring inconsistency with the state of the Triforce in the adult timeline, leading into ALttP.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I hat this downfall bs so much, I'd actually give the official Zelda timeline the benefit of the doubt and acknowldege that Nintendo somewhat planned it all out if it werent for this garbage. Why the fuck isn't there a dowfall timeline for every game then. What makes this specific point in time in oot so fucking special?
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
It was a complete afterthought by Nintendo to make more sequels. Why do you think they have abandoned it.
The effective canon is now SS -> MC -> FS -> BOTW/TOTK
dont worry. the triforce is no longer a thing in totk. its old lore.
What's even more confusing is that when Ganondorf uses the Zonai stone it's basically functioning exactly like the triforce of power.
Now that I think about it, the zonai stones are basically functioning specifically like the triforce of power by making the user's natural abilities stronger.
Are the zonai stones just small pieces of the triforce of power? Similar to how the triforce of courage was broken?
Okay thanks I was wondering how the fuck the timeline worked with TOTK's new revelation that it was founded by sky-furries completely contradicting how it was founded in Skyward Sword
So BOTW/TOTK are so fucking far down the future all of the original games happened long before it and the 'past' you see in TotK with Hyrule's 'founding' was just a re-founding long after the original kingdom was gone? While that doesn't clash with the lore that' still kind of gay that the new games are going this far out of the way to refuse to do anything with the originals
Essentially this is what this means. It was so easy to see too. The world does not line up 1:1 with skyward sword either.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The world does not line up 1:1 with skyward sword either.
Except when it does because of Hylia and Fi in the Mastersword. see
>completely contradicting how it was founded in Skyward Sword
That's not true because even 12 years ago we knew that the ending of SS wasn't the founding of Hyrule. Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
So tired of people equating that to the "founding".
In fact I would go so far as to claim that SS has the closest ties to the new wild games.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
I said 1:1. I know there are tons of references to SS like the shrines and stuff. But a lot of things are strangely off but that makes sense given SS occurred 15,000 years before BOTW
>completely contradicting how it was founded in Skyward Sword
That's not true because even 12 years ago we knew that the ending of SS wasn't the founding of Hyrule. Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
So tired of people equating that to the "founding".
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Skyward Sword Zelda ascended to godhood after she had lots of babies with Link.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No single hero is blood related to another >except just this one bro >the method that the hero is some random dude rising above us ruined
And that’s why TP is retconned by skyward sword…
Assuming Zelda/Link really did do their fair share of repopulating Hyrule upon their return to the surface at the end of SS, considering the small population of Skyloft, I really think there is a strong possibility most of Hyrule in general is SS Link's descendants and therefore a lot of Links probably do share his blood to some degree
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Too distant to matter honestly. The only blood that stays consistently narrow is the Hyrulean royal family. Incest is probably implied but nintendo would never comfirm
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
OH BOY, SMOOCHING TIME!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>replace cartoon Link into your favorite Zelda game.
What changes?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Link tries to molest all the pretty girls.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>5 of the 7 Sages are pregnant by the end of the game. Also Malon and the chicken lady from Kakariko.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Also every single Gerudo in the canyon
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cartoon Link and Cdi Link are both based.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
this. they had to mute him cause he was too powerful
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
That’s a little silly, the goddess reincarnated descends back to earth and instead of immediately getting started on establishing a new kingdom they just faff about for several decades?
Fujibayashi said in an jnterview recently that the original Hyrule kingdom fell before Sonia and Rauru made it again. Knowledge of it went away
I said 1:1. I know there are tons of references to SS like the shrines and stuff. But a lot of things are strangely off but that makes sense given SS occurred 15,000 years before BOTW
I gets more confusing because it makes you think about which "refounding" he's talking about.
Reminder that in SS there's implication of a previous Hyrule Kingdom of the surface thanks to the super ancient Temple of Time in Lanayru desert having the Royal family crest.
>Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
That’s a little silly, the goddess reincarnated descends back to earth and instead of immediately getting started on establishing a new kingdom they just faff about for several decades?
>That’s a little silly, the goddess reincarnated descends back to earth and instead of immediately getting started on establishing a new kingdom they just faff about for several decades?
How is that silly? They literally just moved back to the surface to repopulate it now that it is safe (for a time) - They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made. A lot like the culture Sonia is from BEFORE she met Rauru.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made
But they already had a culture that was nothing like that back in Skyloft, why would they suddenly turn tribal-looking after generations of stable civilization in the sky?
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
That’s a little silly, the goddess reincarnated descends back to earth and instead of immediately getting started on establishing a new kingdom they just faff about for several decades?
SS Zelda ascended to goddesshood.
The voice talking to BOTW Link is SS Zelda. That is why Zelda cannot hear the voice of the goddess.
This new OOT doujin perfectly encapsulates that idea of mine.
Source;https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/113101498#manga
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wait, where is the porn? Did you removed it?
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Zelink artists rarely draw porn and when sex is depicted it is tasteful.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They literally just moved back to the surface to repopulate it now that it is safe (for a time) - They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made.
They weren’t starting from scratch, people from Skyloft likely joined them and I imagine there were probably humans outside of Hyrule that never ascended to the sky and were just stuck on the surface the entire time demons roamed the earth that would still be further along developmentally
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Right but that doesn't mean they went straight to making medieval style Hyrule kingdom. The Kingdom wasn't founded until generations later by their descendants.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn’t say they went right to medieval era Hyrule kingdom, but the establishment of the kingdom i.e. Zelda being recognized as royalty should have happened a short while after their arrival back on the surface
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Zelda wasn’t royalty she was a literal goddess stuck in a human body. This is why every Zelda afterwards has the blood of the goddess. They are all more than mere mortals.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
She wasn’t royalty but still would have established the royal family
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Right but as per Nintendo 10 years ago that did not happen. They said specifically that the founding happened generations later.
>They literally just moved back to the surface to repopulate it now that it is safe (for a time) - They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made.
They weren’t starting from scratch, people from Skyloft likely joined them and I imagine there were probably humans outside of Hyrule that never ascended to the sky and were just stuck on the surface the entire time demons roamed the earth that would still be further along developmentally
>and were just stuck on the surface the entire time demons roamed the earth that would still be further along developmentally
What's interesting to me is that Sonia looks much more blood related to Impa from Skyward Sword (tan skin, bleach blonde hair) than to anyone else we know.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They literally just moved back to the surface to repopulate it now that it is safe (for a time) - They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made.
They weren’t starting from scratch, people from Skyloft likely joined them and I imagine there were probably humans outside of Hyrule that never ascended to the sky and were just stuck on the surface the entire time demons roamed the earth that would still be further along developmentally
To add to this in Skyward Sword Hylia gave Impa (and all sheikah by association) special time manipulation abilities so they could use the Doors of Time to complete their mission.
Is this where Sonia gets her time powers?
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
The goddess of time referenced in OOT is hylia
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yea, and it's also reinforced by the fact that the OoT source code leaks names the Temple of Time as "Cathedral of Hylia".
People like to pretend that Nintendo though Hylia was an entirely novel idea for SS.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Nah they are coping hard. There has been a blueprint drawn for Zelda since way before OOT.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There’s no “Goddess of Time” in Ocarina, that’s Majora
Yea, and it's also reinforced by the fact that the OoT source code leaks names the Temple of Time as "Cathedral of Hylia".
People like to pretend that Nintendo though Hylia was an entirely novel idea for SS.
Nah they are coping hard. There has been a blueprint drawn for Zelda since way before OOT.
“Hylia” in this instance refers to the Hylian people, Link to the Past was the first game to mention Hylia and in that game it’s used as a term to refer to the people of Hyrule, not a goddess. Cathedral of Hylia would mean something like a Hylian church
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>in ocarina, that’s majora
I consider OOT and MM the same game and the same story. mm simply reconciles the key elements of OOT
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
In Zelda 2 Adventure of Link there's an item simply called "Trophy"
In the Japanese release it's called "godess statue"
And it's a statue of a winged woman.
https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Trophy
Hylia is nothing new to the series.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There’s no “Goddess of Time” in Ocarina, that’s Majora
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“Hylia” in this instance refers to the Hylian people, Link to the Past was the first game to mention Hylia and in that game it’s used as a term to refer to the people of Hyrule, not a goddess. Cathedral of Hylia would mean something like a Hylian church
It's also interesting that Zelda would mention the godess of time herself due to the blood connection she has to Hylia.
The composer brothers in OoT also say that they were researching the royal family's special abilities and magic back to their origins of the royal family. Again these ideas are not new in SS.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Zelda’s probably share memories of their past lives due to the blood of the goddess and the triforce’s effect on their family.
Then it was fucking retarded to tease the Triforce in BotW, unless there are plans for a 3rd Wildverse game (please christ no).
You can also see the triforce on Zelda's hand while she's restoring the mastesword in TotK.
Personally I don't think it means anything especially after Tears of the Kingdom's Sonia and Rauru explaining why Zelda has the abilities she does. But at the same time her time powers are also much stronger than Sonia's in that one cutscene, so maybe it's because the triforce? Idk, time travel and triforce don't mix well as it historically shatters it.
I don't give a shit, if Nintendo decides to release a 3D All-Stars-esque Ocarina/Majora compilation I'll shamelessly eat that shit up even at 60 burgershekels because I have no integrity.
Why do these journalist leak homosexuals just tease shit for weeks and months instead of being efficient and just saying what it is and getting it over with immediately?
I don't think they will do anything for the 25th anniversary and I think all those leakers and journalists are a bunch of clout chasing homosexuals making up nonsense for views.
>What the actual fuck happened between Minish Cap and Twilight Princess to make the Oocca?
Seeing how adaptation works in Zelda you could argue that the Ooca are just the leftover people of Skyloft or the wind tribe that changed over time.
Remember same games as River Zora = Domain Zora = Rito over few centuries.
And reminder that Shad wasn't wrong about sky beings founding Hyrule, he was just wrong about the beings (he himself admits the Ooca being the beings was just a personal theory).
Zonai come from the same place as the Lokomo, probably even the same beings. That is to say that the unseen sky world above Hyrule is just as busy as the surface with different tribes and cultures.
I had some argue with me early in the year that the goddess of time wasn’t hylia. Hylia is the patron goddess of the royal family and the royal families aspect is time manipulation with an heirloom that can reverse time. It’s so obvious.
In Zelda 2 Adventure of Link there's an item simply called "Trophy"
In the Japanese release it's called "godess statue"
And it's a statue of a winged woman.
>unnamed goddess statue back when the primary religion in Zelda was Christianity >”this means they had a character introduced 25 years later planned from the start!”
I thought we moved past these leaps of logic, it doesn’t even make sense when if she was planned from that early on they would have introduced her alongside the golden goddesses if the statue actually had any importance to the setting
Since Nintendo themselves would obviously never do such a thing nowadays, it'd be dope to see a 3D game ROMhack evoke this more quaint style of Zelda mythology and medievalism.
I don't think they need to be strictly realistic medieval/medieval-fantasy trappings, but BotW and TotK go too far in making tech shit a major constant trapping. In previous games, tech was treated as a gag or as something special.
Basically yeah. In OOT for instance, the most "advanced" technologies are spring-loaded gizmos and gadgets like the Hookshot or Bombchus, which in-universe are strictly new and rare inventions.
In BoTW/ToTK meanwhile you basically have hyper-advanced science fiction technology except coated in a layer of """ancient civilization""" paint
>fantasy game >very alien tech on-par with or more advanced than the modern world >MC has a not-iPhone >gadgets and machinery inconceivable for the time period presented >guns are somehow non-existent despite this >"it is... le future post-apocalypse!!!" to explain why the sci-fi elements aren't more widespread or even acknowledged by the population
I HATE this post-modern fantasy trend like you wouldnt believe bros. Unimaginative and boring slop that do NOTHING to spark wonder and mystique. Everything has an explanation, everything is man-made, nothing is cool, nothing is special. The only setting this worked in was Elder Scrolls since Dwarves at least felt more steampunk than modern. WHY does Nintendo insist on this shit?
Off the top of my head, Horizon Zero Dawn and Pokemon Legends, though admittedly the latter is limited to just a glorified iPhone. Still bogus, but its not as bad. Technically Skyward Sword had elements of these as well if I remember right, but it wasnt very egregious
There's no magic anymore, literally. Link didn't just used to use magical items, he used to cast magic spells as well. He used to use magic. He doesn't do that anymore.
I feel like they're doing the sony thing where the old games don't exist anymore. So like breath of the wild is THE legend of zelda now. Nothing else exists. Which sucks because dungeon zelda is better than open (empty) world zelda.
>Twilight Princess breaks all previous Zelda sales records and is incredibly popular >Hmmm people loved it, but let's make something complete different for the next one
>Breath of the Wild breaks all previous Zelda sales records and is incredibly popular >This is Zelda now, everything going forward will not deviate from this
The devs wanted to make an ambitious sequel but Miyamoto shut them down and turned it into the Crossbow tech demo
Since Nintendo themselves would obviously never do such a thing nowadays, it'd be dope to see a 3D game ROMhack evoke this more quaint style of Zelda mythology and medievalism.
Not a full romhack but someone is making mods for it that make it more like Ocarina of Time with OoT Link and the same enemy and item designs
>The devs wanted to make an ambitious sequel but Miyamoto shut them down and turned it into the Crossbow tech demo
Never been more divided on someone in vidya >gave us the Pikmin series, and pushed for Star Fox to have a big-titted blue bombshell >also canned a Twilight Princess sequel and made Star Fox Zero
>Wind Waker does middlingly and is a divisive game, both for its artstyle and gameplay direction >holy shit this needs two sequels and like half a dozen other games mimicking its artstyle, starting before WW even comes out
But the truth is, what primarily screwed TP out of any sequel despite its great sales and fine reviews is that it bombed in Japan. Back then, Japan was given far more priority over other regions by Nintendo in gauging their business decisions.
>25th anniversary
I suppose there really is no excuse for putting off a playthrough, it's been way too long. If nothing else, I owe it to myself as a lover of the cute redheaded farm girl.
Now you're reminding me how badly I want a Four Swords Adventures port where you can play online without GBA's
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Four Swords 99, how would it work?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
1. It'd be called 99 Swords in that case
2. A glorious clusterfuck of all the players constantly killing each other as they try to get through the level, horribly inefficient but so fun you don't even mind
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Link picks up the 99 Sword and splits into almost a hundred duplicates >Vaati shits himself
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Vaati gets his twink asshole plundered by 99 Chad Links
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
wtf were they thinking with that
classic blunder of the 2000's era of nintendo. Peripheral hell.
As the other guy said, it was Japan only for a long time until the internet helped us out. I'm also really fond of this one. I remember another video of it was up for a decent while as being part of the 25th symphony. A lie, but a pretty one.
Damn this is probably the most beautiful version of the song I've ever heard. It sounds like a lullaby the words to which have been long-forgotten, as only the melody remains.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have no idea what I came back to, but this isn't great. More Malon should make things better.
It's almost enchanting, it is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Link couldn't handle the cock
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
malon was a 3d model zelda option reappropriated while still working on story, nobody likes malon
>post MM game where the Hero of Time is figuring what to do with himself, maybe still looking for Navi and helping people. >post Adult-Timeline OoT game where Zelda is trying to keep Hyrule under control from Non-Ganon evil entities because she sent Link back in time.
>>post Adult-Timeline OoT game where Zelda is trying to keep Hyrule under control from Non-Ganon evil entities because she sent Link back in time.
Now this is a more interesting idea for a game. That future is the real version of Hyrule anyways not the one Link was sent back to. As the one Zelda stayed in was the Hyrule that experienced all the events of OOT. She is also best Zelda. People also want a playable Zelda game.
Grezzo are working on an original IP but them taking time to make another OOT remake to keep the lights on makes sense. Especially if said IP is going to be independently published.
If there's one thing that TOTK got me interested in, it's the idea of an Action RPG Zelda spinoff with party members and everything you could customize. Would this interest anyone else?
Do 25th anniversary mean anything in Japan? I hope they release an interview I saw on the scifi channel with Miyamoto when the game was initially released.
mario 25th anniversary was a pretty big deal and zelda 25th anniversary got us an orchestral concert cd and a splashcard in front of the skyward sword game. that game kinda
I think its also a mix of 25th anniversary with Jeff Grub and some others saying Nintendo is doing some Zelda thing at end of this year that's not TOTK related.
OOT3D is a ground-up remake. It remakes literally everything besides its source code. What you want is a reimagining like FF7. Anyways >Restore cut content/scope >Realize a few areas or mechanics a bit more >Add new stuff
It seems like nearly all remakes fall in one of several categories: >pointless remake that adds nothing new >pointless remake that shoehorns in some piddly bonus content shilling a future game (future relative to the original's release) >absolutely apeshit remake that ruins the gameplay and/or story because the producer(s) have an egotistical need to get their new set of crayons out and add their special mark all over something beloved
I would see it as an experimental phase where Nintendo tries to blend the, love it or hate it, proven success of BOTW's open world with more traditional Zelda formula with the game that wrote the book on traditional Zelda formulas >Hyrule is still open world but slimmed down significantly in scale, allowing them to do more work with what they have and make the various settings feel more fleshed out and interesting rather than just assuming bigger is better >They do away with the broken weapon system and instead introduce a smith who, similar to in LttP, is capable of upgrading the Master Sword with various effects/charms the player can customize and maybe do the same for all the other returning items as well like the Boomerang, Hookshot, Arrows, etc. >Add even more questlines in to the various towns and characters for both Child and Adult timelines, and even crossing over where more certain quests will open up after doing them in Child or getting something you need in Adult
Basically a grand experiment to see if open-world has a place in Zelda's future combined with the gameplay/puzzles/atmosphere of the original games
>and even crossing over where more certain quests will open up after doing them in Child or getting something you need in Adult
This is something I really wish OOT did. More back and forth between child and adult. Like if midway through you found NEW items as an adult that you could ONLY use as a child (instead, only the opposite of this ever happens in-game) and had a harder additional child dungeon partway through the game. They flirted with this with the Well and half of the Spirit Temple, but ultimately all the points like that where you need to bring something from the adult era back to the child era, are only so that you can then bring something ELSE from the child era back to adult to that you can progress as an adult.
Aonuma said in an interview recently that most people don't know who Rauru is. Hinting at OoT's origin for the character, so it's likely going to be a way of reintroducing the roots of the series to new players.
Rauru's such a minor character. I still don't get why they named their Zonai character Rauru as well. Like, was there anybody going "Ahh hell yeah! It's Rauru!"?
When Ganondorf namedropped Rauru in the intro I baseded out because the idea of the original Ganondorf still having memories of all his prior encounters with Link and Zelda has a ton of potential and it’s also cool as a callback
Then it turned out to be a different Rauru, a different Ganondorf and a different Imprisoning War. What the fuck was the point
>IT's a new Ganondorf
This was also a severe disappointment. It's one of the defining traits of the trinity >Zeldas are all blood-related >Link is the same dude reincarnating >Ganondorf is the same guy throughout all the games (with minor exceptions like FSA which is made by Capcom)
And it's not even really a 'new' Ganondorf, it's the exact same plot/motivations of OoT Ganondorf just recycled. BotW onwards is going so far out of its way to remove any ties to the original canon, it's so close to not even being Zelda anymore in anything but name
My bad, I thought all the Four Swords Trilogy was Capcom. Still given how distinct it is from the rest of the Zelda series (level-based gameplay, multiplayer as a core mechanic, etc) I think some breach of lore etiquette is acceptable. BotW/TotK are mainline zelda games
>new zelda is announced >link is black, a gerudo >ancestor dicked down a gerudo at some point >born along with a twin brother >its ganon >neither know of their legacy >memory shit slowly is revealed over time >ganon fucks off to do demon lord shit >link gets shat on everywhere he goes because "a male gerudo" is fucking shit up, again >dual wield scimitars, get some kind of demon blade later to dual wield with master sword >glorious brotherly duel at the end with full LIQUIIIIIIIIIIID screams
Kino...
Listen I'm trying to find an excuse to drop the sword n shield shit for something cooler.
Pitch an idea to make link use his fucking fists and ill take it
I gave away my families nintendo and every game except zelda (I thought it was 'earth of the matrix'.... don't fucking ask). you're not a schizo
oh, I gave it away for $80AUD to buy drugs btw
those are the same 2 carts ive had since 1999-2000. You can see MM is extremely fucked up. Would be surprised if it still worked.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you should buy a lot of drugs, cart damage aside, it's still fetches a high price as real hardware and ultimately means nothing as a piece of ancient hardware.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>you should buy a lot of drugs
I have a book collection worth $25,000 sitting in my closet.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
start with weed and work your way to back alley anything, it's well worth it
while the most autistic Zelda fags this webside has to offer are still gathered in this thread, can someone explain to me why Ganondorf has the Triforce of power in TP despite Link getting send back in time before Ganondorf could reach it? Also to which timeframe did Zelda send him exactly?
Aonuma and Miyamoto most certainly didn't think about it. But when Link was sent back, he kept the Triforce of Courage (remains to be seen whether he lost it in Majora's Mask or not). And the Triforce fractured in the child timeline and the pieces went straight to Ganon and Zelda respectively.
my personal headcanon (because it was never confirmed) is that Link lost the triforce of courage. In OOT, the triforce of courage shields Link from dark magic against ganondorf, and also heals him to full health when it resonates in the final battle. He is then shown with it clearly in the final scene. It is never shown again in majora's mask and he is affected by Majora's dark magic and basically it fucks off entirely. Maybe they just forgot about it.
Ganondorf is working forwards from a point of reference of what has happened in any universe, he's working to undo the world and become it's ruler by unlocking the secrets of the possibilities of time.
Zelda sending link back like in OoT after banashing Ganon, and in TP is like a central bank bailout. It works, it bides time, but nothing can undo the damage.
Link in TP is dark link from OoT, and both links are the same entity. Ganon got the triforce of power by being taught how to open the temple of time by OoT link
Aonuma and Miyamoto most certainly didn't think about it. But when Link was sent back, he kept the Triforce of Courage (remains to be seen whether he lost it in Majora's Mask or not). And the Triforce fractured in the child timeline and the pieces went straight to Ganon and Zelda respectively.
my personal headcanon (because it was never confirmed) is that Link lost the triforce of courage. In OOT, the triforce of courage shields Link from dark magic against ganondorf, and also heals him to full health when it resonates in the final battle. He is then shown with it clearly in the final scene. It is never shown again in majora's mask and he is affected by Majora's dark magic and basically it fucks off entirely. Maybe they just forgot about it.
my theory is ganon got the triforce of power after link was sent back because of the paradox (or maybe because the Triforce is such a divine object it exists outside the rules of time and space) and when Ganondorf was to be executed, the hatred in his dying moments awakened the dormant triforce, or, my theory at the time, he became 'worthy' through sheer resilience and willpower of wielding it by grasping to life even during his own execution
the actual answer from nintendo is something more like "we don't know, the gods are wacky and we thought it would look cool"
the key words are omnipotent and omniscient.
The triforce is not inherited by blood. Wisdom does not go to Zelda's children because she had babies. It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
>It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
No it doesn’t, otherwise it would teleport into all Links and all Zeldas when to why were on the verge of death
The pieces were passed down via bloodline
>otherwise it would teleport into all Links and all Zeldas when to why were on the verge of death >The pieces were passed down via bloodline
Link and Zelda never lose.
Downfall was an afterthought.
It makes literally no sense.
Sorry dude. TP takes place several hundred years after OOT. (always incorrectly translated to be 100 years). Did Link's dad have the ToC?
Of course he didn't.
Only the hero and the princess may wield the triforce.
You’re still ignoring that only a handful of Links and Zeldas get Triforce pieces and that Link always needs to earn it before he can acquire it, the ONE exception is Twilight Princess Link where it’s passed down via bloodline and he has it inherently. >Did Link's dad have the ToC?
He could have, it just remained dormant in him, like how it was dormant in TP Link until he was brought into the Twilight. He’s the only Link with explicit blood connections to a previous Link whereas every Zelda will naturally give birth to the next member of the royal family >Only the hero and the princess may wield the triforce.
The fact that Ganondorf, a non-Hylian, is capable of using it means anyone can hold it and not just Link or Zelda (or Hylians exclusively)
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Ganondorf is just as special as Zelda and Link. The curse revolves around those three. As dumb as that sounds. Anyway I rather not argue about this further. You’re entitled to your head canon. I understand your position though I really do.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It’s headcanon to insinuate the Triforce will dive into any Link or Zelda at a moments notice without reason when there’s zero indication of that occurring throughout the entire series
Don’t dismiss something with examples based on the series while peddling your own BS
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>will dive into any Link or Zelda at a moments notice without reason
putting words in my argument. I did not say that one bit.
That's my last reply to you since I see you are malicious.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I did not say that one bit.
the key words are omnipotent and omniscient.
The triforce is not inherited by blood. Wisdom does not go to Zelda's children because she had babies. It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
>It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
Which is wrong and based on nothing
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>It can magically teleport into people.
vs >will dive into any Link or Zelda at a moments notice without reason
Like I said, malicious AND stupid.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why would it teleport into them? Because they’re the protagonists and the plot demands it? That’s not what happens, there’s always a reason with every Link except one earning it through trials.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
This is not worth discussing with you, as I have previously said, you just made stuff up and tried to alter what I said maliciously. Enjoy arguing with yourself now.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
More like you don’t have any examples and are trying to weasel out of it
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
should I spoon feed you?
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The triforce is omnipotent and omniscient. It can decide where it wants to go on a moments wim. This is evidenced by how Zelda obtained the triforce of wisdom in the child timeline.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If it can leave at any point why the fuck would it stick around for when Ganondorf took it in ALTTP >This is evidenced by how Zelda obtained the triforce of wisdom in the child timeline.
OoT Zelda obtained the ToW as an indirect result of Link returning with his piece, it didn’t just decide “okay time to go into this girl because I want to”
OoT Zelda then passed down the Triforce piece to TP Zelda and her other descendants
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
>why the fuck would it stick around for when Ganondorf took it in ALTTP
This is LITERALLY explained in ALTTPs ending.
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The Triforce doesn't have complete dominance over itself. It is still a tool to be used.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The Triforce doesn't have complete dominance over itself.
Right, so it’s not going to eject itself from someone’s body or transport itself into them willy-nilly
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
I mean it decides where it wants to go. See the guy above. If it has decided you earned the right to wield it anyway.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It can magically teleport into people
It literally only happens in OoT, and only because Ganondorf, the dumb motherfucker, touched it. Since his heart was "unbalanced" he could not make his wish and the Triforce deemed him unworthy and split apart. Of course, that at that moment the Triforce itself chose the owners for the remaining pieces. But it's clear that from OoT ownards, in all three timelines, the Triforce of Wisdom became a symbol of the Royal Family, which makes sense as it is passed through Zelda's bloodline.
Wind Waker Zelda has it. Why? Because her ancestors did.
Twilight Princess Zelda has it. Why? Same reason. Her ancestors had it.
Same applies to most Zeldas throughout the Downfall Timeline.
So, yes, while the Triforce itself can choose who will get to own its individual pieces as far as I recall, it has only happened once in the franchise, and only because Ganondorf was a brute fuck with an unbalanced heart/soul.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Most sane reply yet.
Anyway, this makes me wonder, why does BOTW Zelda have the full triforce now? Guess the sacred realm got nuked at one point and it's just hiding there.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
"ancestors having the triforce" is a lie told to link, the royal family does what it wants when it wants.
Zelda is not so innocent and link is both a problem and solution, link is used by ganon endlessly, the royal family is fucked unless they use link to defeat ganon again and again, they lie to link constantly
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Also, in most games where the Triforce of Courage shows up, Link has to go through an unholy amount of trials and tasks to get it.
In OoT Link was only chosen by the Triforce of Courage because at that point in time he had already went through multiple tasks in order to get the Master Sword. This 8 year old had to fight a giant spider crab, a fire-breathing dinossaur and after getting eaten by a fish, saved it from turbo magic electric cancer it had.
In WW there's a whole fucking quest where Link has to gather every single piece of the artfact. And not only that, he also had to complete multiple dungeons, including the Tower of the Gods.
In LBW the Triforce of Courage is only granted to him right at the end of his adventure, after he has already went through most of the game's dungeons.
And then you have TP Link, sticking out like a sore thumb, because he never had to endure any trials. He just happens to have the artfact within him the whole time, and doesn't even knows it. It has literally just been laying dorment within him without him realizing it. Which is consistent with Skyward Sword, where the essence of the Triforce just hangs within SS Link for a while, prior to him getting the actual artfact.
3 weeks ago
ZelinkOP
Never once did I say you didn't have to earn the ToC. I said that it can teleport into people (namely heroes and princesses)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Never once did I say you didn't have to earn the ToC
I did not say you did. >I said that it can teleport into people
It can, but has only happened twice. Not only OoT, but in the Oracle games as well, oddly enough, I had forgotten about them.
So yes, TP Link having the Triforce of Courage without going under any sort of trial, sticks out. Which again, gives validity to the claim that he might have got it from OoT Link through bloodline.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>where the Triforce of Courage shows up, Link has to go through an unholy amount of trials and tasks to get it.
by the royal family's design, and they know when to hit the trigger and they have to stop ganondorf again by telling link how to get it. It's an arms race that the royal family define by acting as keeper to the triforce, ganon often is the keeper of the triforce in the twilight realm, the royal family having already lost. >WW link is triforce is shattered
the royal family got that anal about keeping it from ganon that they broke it, the world is very far in the future, WW ganon is the one of if not the most powerful and knowledgeable ganons. >TP Link
yes, ganon is keeper to the triforce. When ganon has the triforce, link has the triforce. ganon always/often has the triforce in 'his' realm
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>by the royal family's design
Wrong. Trials in OoT are not designed by the Royal Family, they were designed by the circustances caused by Ganondorf's actions (which happens to be the case in most games), such as Ganondorf cursing the Deku Tree and Jabu Jabu, or closing Dodongo's cavern with a rock. Link was only deemed worthy of the Triforce of Courage here because of his deeds prior to him getting the Master Sword.
Similarly, trials in Wind Waker were not designed by the Royal Family (as most of them don't even KNOW they are royalty). They just happen to be old temples that have now been invaded with monsters sent by Ganondorf who is trying his hardest to find Princess Zelda.
In Link Between Worlds, most of those trials were most likely not planned either. Yuga just starts capturing people, seemingly at random first, and Link is just figuring out the patterns of said kidnappings. The Hylian Royal Family had no hand in this, hell, Yuga ends up capturing Zelda and Impa as well, just to summon Ganon.
You're trying to write the royal family as this machiavellian group of individuals, when in truth, in most games they are caught up by surprise just as much as anyone else. Just take LttP as an example. Agahnim literally shows up, mindwashes the entire army and kills the fucking king. >Ganon often is the keeper of the triforce
Ganondorf keeps his piece because he doesn't fucking die. The Triforce of Power grants him near immortality as seen in Twilight Princess. He can only be killed for good if the Triforce leaves his body. Which is what happens in Wind Waker and Twilight Princess itself. Hell, he even says so himself in Ocarina of Time, that he will remain alive as long as the Triforce of Power remains within him.
That being said, Ganondorf more often than not, doesn't get the Triforce of Power just for existing. He did not have in FSA and instead had to resort to the Trident. In Zelda 1, he had to steal the ToP for himself after destroying the kingdom.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they were designed by the circustances caused by Ganondorf's actions (which happens to be the case in most games), such as Ganondorf cursing the Deku Tree and Jabu Jabu, or closing Dodongo's cavern with a rock
right, so I don't have the balls to defeat your argument because I can't even spell Dodrongo and well you actually remember details of the game right >Ganondorf keeps his piece because he doesn't fucking die.
Ganon keeps his piece when or maybe due to the fact that he's in the twilight realm at any point in time. He does not keep his piece or loses his peice or is reborn without a piece - while retaining all or some of his knowledge - when he returns to the light world. >repeatedly makes me out to be an idiot
fuck you. most of your lore is based on what the royal family have said to link. link's understanding is a liability
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>right, so I don't have the balls to defeat your argument because I can't even spell Dodrongo and well you actually remember details of the game right
Fair enough >Ganon keeps his piece when or maybe due to the fact that he's in the twilight realm at any point in time
What? He was only the Twilight Realm in well, Twilight Princess. He literally dies after losing the Triforce of Power in this very same game. As I have said, the Triforce of Power grants him near immortality, which is why he didn't die in OoT for example, even after Link stabbed him through the head. As long as he doesn't die, the Triforce won't leave his body and as long as the Triforce doesn't leave his body, he won't die. Which is why is so hard to kill him. Hell, Link only manages to kill him in Twilight Princess, because he is susceptible to holy weaponry and the Sage's Sword tore a big weakspot through his chest, even if it didn't kill him outright. >repeatedly makes me out to be an idiot
I did not such thing, and never have I said you were an idiot. >most of your lore is based on what the royal family have said to link
It's not "my lore". It is what the games show. On screen.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the royal family got that anal about keeping it from ganon that they broke it
No, they did not. At the end of Ocarina of Time, Zelda sends Link back in time.
So, here's the thing. At this point there are already two timelines, one in the future, where Zelda is now sending Link back in the past. In this timeline, the Triforce has split. Ganondorf is holding on to his piece, the Triforce of Power. Zelda similarly has her own piece, the Triforce of Wisdom. And Link, likewise, is the bearer of the Triforce of Courage. But Zelda, decides to send Link back in the past, spawning a new timeline. This, causes the Triforce of Courage in off itself to shatter. It was intended to happen by the Royal Family, and the King of Hyrule makes that very clear in game that it was an unforeseen consequence of the Hero of Time "leaving Hyrule". >the world is very far in the future
Wind Waker happens roughly at the same time as Twilight Princess. >WW ganon is the one of if not the most powerful and knowledgeable ganons.
WW Ganon is not that powerful. Knowledgeable? Possibly. >yes, ganon is keeper to the triforce
As I already said, Ganon isn't a keeper. He just hang on the Triforce's Power to make him immortal. >When ganon has the triforce, link has the triforce
Not the truth. Link didn't have the Triforce in Link Between Worlds. He didn't have the Triforce in Link to the Past. In both of those games, he had to EARN it. In LttP he literally has to defeat Ganon in order to get it. >ganon always/often has the triforce in 'his' realm
What do you mean by "realm". You mean the room inside the Pyramid? If so, that was the Full Triforce, he most likely couldn't have it inside his own body.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>detailing the most braindead simple lore to me
you are genuinely a fucking asshole >Ganon isn't a keeper.
he is in the twilight realm. >what do you mean "realm"
the dark world, as dark link and even dark ganon if you like, in dark world ganon has the triforce, until it's taken from him and he's reborn in light, where he uses his knowledge to take it again, sometimes by using link or the link entity's knowledge, which would explain why the royal family tells link nothing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Listen to me naggers.
Zelda, Link and Ganon are images of the 3 gods of the triforce.
The gods combined into one as they created the world.
Hyrule is being undone, while Zelda Link and Ganon are in a constant struggle to not become each other.
Zelda must not become couragous nor powerful.
Link must not become powerful or wise.
Ganon must not become couragous or wise.
Every step in the wrong direction places Hyrule into further chaos.
I don’t understand how you can play these games and come out with these completely wild interpretations of the lore that have barely any actual basis in there games themselves
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>detailing the most braindead simple lore to me
It is "simple" but it feels obligatory for me to talk about it, as it is important to the matter we are discussing. I did not do it to insult you, or your intellect. >you are genuinely a fucking asshole
Now that's uncalled for. It is fine tho. >the dark world
As in LttP's Dark World? FSA's Dark World? LBW's Lorule? TP's Twilight Realm? What "Dark World" are we talking about? >he's reborn in light
What exactly do you mean by this? As in Ganondorf reincarnating?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Demise is a husk controlled by Ghirahim who is a Ganondorf of Ganon.
all dark worlds are the dark world. all light worlds are the light world. there are always both.
let me rephrase:
in the dark worlds of the dark realm, as dark link and even dark ganon if you like, ganon has the triforce, until it's taken from him and he's reborn in a light world of the light realm, where he uses his knowledge to take it again, sometimes by using link or the link entity's knowledge, which would explain why the royal family tells link nothing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
only one of the links awakening between dark and light can have the triforce at any point in time, usually dark link is just asleep/adrift. The twilight realm is a living dream, the void world of TP is an extension of the dream, not entering the twilight realm in any way, always there.
When Link goes back in OoT, he keeps his Triforce of Courage which has the unintended side effect of splitting the Triforce in the newly created Child Timeline. As a result Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf get their individual pieces which Ganondorf is unaware of until he survives being executed by the Sages. Link and Zelda pass down their pieces to their descendants being TP Link and TP Zelda respectively
>Link and Zelda pass down their pieces to their descendants being TP Link and TP Zelda respectively
The Triforce is not passed through blood. I'm telling you. This is such a common misconception.
In Wind Waker Zelda literally had it passed down to her through a necklace. In essence, the Triforce just goes wherever the fuck it wants.
Just because Zelda has bob for a son doesn't mean it's going to him.
It makes literally no sense.
Sorry dude. TP takes place several hundred years after OOT. (always incorrectly translated to be 100 years). Did Link's dad have the ToC?
Of course he didn't.
Only the hero and the princess may wield the triforce.
Anyone else have the Nintendo Power guide? I had it as a kid and remember poring over every piece of art and other stuff in the guide. It was totally different from other NP guides, with an absolute ton of art and some lore thrown in there. I bought a copy a few years back and it still holds up, although 3rd person narrative (in the guide sections at least) is a bit awkward if you're using it as a straight up guide and was an...interesting choice when they wrote the thing
>TP manga is miles better than the game for instance.
No, it's even worse.
The virgin TP manga Gorons >Mining for fertiliser is le bad!
vs the chad canon Gorons >We Gorons live on a diet of rocks... And the most delicious and nutritious rocks around are found in the Dodongo's Cavern! But that seems like ancient history now... We've become such gourmets that we can't stand to eat rocks from anywhere else!
>I finally put that through your thick skull that they're not canon.
I honestly never said they are canon... Don't you know that? I do like them a lot. A lot of people dislike them for their own reasons but I do enjoy Zelda manga. Ishinori ALTTP manga + OOT are all time favorites. The Majora's Mask manga was far too short however.
I'll settle the Triforce thing because ZeLink secondary has no idea what the fuck he's talking about when it comes to canon lore. When the Hero of Time was sent back in time, he was still in possession of his piece so when Zelda sent him back, the future piece shattered. Once the Hero of Time arrived in a new timeline, the Triforce split there as well, like a magnetic pull. The Triforce of Courage in that timeline filled the mark that was left on him from the future, causing the remaining pieces to split as well, as the Triforce was no longer whole with just 2 pieces. The Triforce pieces resonate and respond to each other, so when the Hero of Twilight was drug through a curtain of Twilight, his piece which was passed down by the Hero of Time, began to resonate just as Ganondorf's did during the failed execution. They don't follow every single Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf because WW Link had to put the Hero of Time's back together and they don't make the wielders immortal, just difficult to kill. Otherwise, TP Link wouldn't have fucking ended Ganondorf at the end of the game nor would the Hero of Light slay Ganon with the full fucking thing. Never listen to this fucking idiot regarding lore, he's a BotW secondary and a larper.
this is exactly what I said here but yours is a word salad.
see
Aonuma and Miyamoto most certainly didn't think about it. But when Link was sent back, he kept the Triforce of Courage (remains to be seen whether he lost it in Majora's Mask or not). And the Triforce fractured in the child timeline and the pieces went straight to Ganon and Zelda respectively.
my personal headcanon (because it was never confirmed) is that Link lost the triforce of courage. In OOT, the triforce of courage shields Link from dark magic against ganondorf, and also heals him to full health when it resonates in the final battle. He is then shown with it clearly in the final scene. It is never shown again in majora's mask and he is affected by Majora's dark magic and basically it fucks off entirely. Maybe they just forgot about it.
That is not what you said, hours is just complaining that you don't like the official explanation and that your headcanon is better, as always with you. Shut the fuck up, don't speak unless spoken to like a good retard.
I don't care if some other fucking idiot agreed with you, you little toad. That doesn't make your blatant larp bullshit correct now sit down, and shut the fuck up like I told you if you're going to be here. The people who actually play the games are talking, not fucking fanart dumping artists.
link did not have the triforce of courage after the events of OoT
Zelda is preventing link from understanding light and dark because he will reveal it to Ganondorf by accident.
The royal family is doing everything they can to prevent the link entity, like a struggling mass of flesh in a womb from finding out how it can step forwards against ganon, when every step forwards is only teaching ganon how to gain more control
The PC port is a dream come true. If anything, I'd love more beta stuff to be found, that stuff is endlessly fascinating to me. I remember reading Nintendo Power before the game came out and poring over any beta screenshots they had.
>what more could you possibly want?
HD models and textures that accurate capture the artstyle shown in the manuals
Even if a remake comes out and sucks we can still use the assets with the port
The only reason Zelinkfag is this anal about the Triforce not being blood related is because it goes against his headcanon that every Link gets with Zelda, since both the Courage and Wisdom pieces would’ve been passed down instead of just one if OoT Link and Zelda actually got together.
>I’ve been discussing the game leaving in depth responses >one retard screaming at me stop derailing the thread hasn’t left one real post on the entire thread
Why do I keep taking the bait fuck I’m stupid.
I’m just gonna stop coming to these threads where the /lozg/ schizoid lurks. Dude doesn’t even post. Just freaks the fuck out and floods it. My apologies fellas.
>Zelda must be a weak pussy >Link must be a weak retard >Ganon must be a retarded pussy >Otherwise the world is fucked
This is dumb and I feel dumber having read it.
Did anything happen on the 20th? There's your answer.
Only that /vr/ will continue to seeth about OOT for another 25 years
You might be the first person to mention that board on Ganker.
>They're both left handed so they're the same person!!!
Zeldafags grasping for straws because there is no real lore
Twilight Princess manga did something with it atleast, sure it basically turned him into Skull Knight from Berserk, but it worked.
That manga was way too Kino.
that manga in general was way better than it had any right to be
i agree there is no real lore, but they said themselves that’s link
>This bait again
Don't you get tired of boring people?
No other Link knows the Song of Healing but Oot/MM Link. He literally teaches the song to TP Link.
Don't humor shitposters
why you calling me a shitposter
you're a shitposter because you are shitposting
why are you even questioning what you are?
i said nothing that was a shitpost, this isn't me gaslighting you. i'm informing you that you told that guy who replied to me that i'm a shitposter with the other guy he quoted.
Aren't all Links left-handed prior to Skyward Sword?
Twilight Princess manga literally confirmed it
bro that's just skelly knight from bezerk
Did he at least bang OoT Zelda before he died?
No but TP Link got to bang 5 different girls he met. Hero of time really wanted him to not repeat his mistakes and to be a better hero than he was
kinda based
thread is pretty much dead now. maybe people getting off work. here's some new art that came out today
>Anika
Is she a new character made for the manga?
Yeah. She is a village girl whose family has been killed and her hometown destroyed thanks to the army of soldiers who wanted to help and fight against Zant's army one year before the events of the game. She hates violence, conflicts of any kind, and people who solve problems by spilling blood even in self-defense. She hated Link for being a "soldier", a man with a weapon of war who takes pride in ending lives and taking part in violent conflicts in Hyrule that only create more sacrifices in the process. Her mentality hit Link when he was basically at rock bottom which led him to rethink his purpose in life. She and Link are kind of similar in a way. She later came to the conclusion that taking part in conflict is worth it as long as taking one life ensures that 20 others can be preserved. She also started developing feelings for Link when he made her realize how strong she is as a person and how much she managed to accomplish for her family and him despite being all alone in the world for such a long time.
Many people joke about her being author's shameless Shojo self insert girl seeing how Anika is basically the best choice for Link after Midna left to Twilight realm forever
>basically the best choice for Link after Midna left to Twilight realm forever
What about illia?
Yes.
Why would he bang his sister?
Because he wouldn't especially when he blames her for his regrets as the Hero's Shade
>when he blames her for his regrets as the Hero's Shade
what was that about headcanons again?
pathetic
>Literally the cause for all his regrets
>Triptranny: HEADCANON HEADCANON
i fucking hate you you autistic piece of shit
jump off of a cliff
Im gonna be here far longer than you too.
>source:
I've been here since 2009
i didnt ask i told you to go die
can you two get a room already, I can't even tell if samefagging and honestly, I don't really care either.
not until he dies and goes away
Tripfag has been samefagging all thread but not those specific posts. It's extremely easy to tell which ones are him.
I never post without my trip anymore.
shut the fuck up
Bullshit but as the other anon said, shut the fuck up. No one wants to hear it.
This place needs poster ID so bad.
i just told you to shut the fuck up
now shut the fuck up
You’re like a screaming baby
Are you like this in real life?
shut the fuck up does noy mean keep making a nuisance of yourself
it means shut the fuck up
Lmaoooooo
Seriously shut the fuck up and quit derailing threads homosexual attention whore.
ZELDA IS SUCH A NICE LADY
Literally some yuri shipper's retarded headcanon.
Maybe if you played the games instead of posting low-quality bait you wouldn't look like a dumbass.
Zelda lore was always a meme. Even the creators don't take it seriously anymore
Um it does make sense
I think they might give whatever it is to Geoff
I stopped expecting Nintendo to be good around 2012 and BOTW/TOTK killed my interest in Zelda. I'll still replay OOT for the 50th time, but don't expect anything.
>I stopped expecting Nintendo to be good around 2012 and BOTW/TOTK killed my interest in Zelda
Good. I don't want any fake fan zoomer tourists anywhere near Zelda. You troons almost killed the series. Go play skyward sword.
surely its just a port of the wiiu version.
Doubt they do anything at the VGAs. They keep announcements to their own Directs
The only way i can see a VGA announcement is if they release it immediately after the show, then a physical next year, but I'm not convinced.
remakes are killing games the same way they're killing movies please stop buying and hyping them up please please please
>remakes are killing games
good
Zelda is more popular than ever.
More Zelda is fine with me
>Zelda is more popular than ever.
And that's a bad thing
Yes i want to play TP on the fourth console in a row
>best dungeons
>best girl
>best combat
>best minigames
Why wouldn’t you?
I don't want a remaster I want a fucking squeal.
OoT remake with full integration of dating sim elements like originally proposed.
>all cute girls, even the fish one
>only heterosexual outcomes
>endless think-pieces and seething tweets, screencaps of which are endlessly reposted here
happening?
monkey's paw, it gets the same art style as the LA remake
>ocarina of time HD
Will it happen?
no
Twilight Princess and Windwaker HD will be dropping on the switch
i still really do not understand how their weird ass tribal skeleton dude is supposed to be OoT link when the only feature he remotely shares visually is being left handed. its an absolute fucking retcon
this is what a character that was meant to be a link (or at least a reference to him) from the beginning would be designed like.
couple that with concept designs for the heros shade being a samurai and a woman, its clear no one was thinking of him as being anything other than a random ancestor of TP Link, and that's at very best
>i still really do not understand how their weird ass tribal skeleton dude is supposed to be OoT link when the only feature he remotely shares visually is being left handed. its an absolute fucking retcon
Not really. HoT after Zelda sends him back in time goes through the rest of his life without having to fight another Ganon or go on a big mission to save Hyrule (presumably). His life probably takes a much different direction, and resembling this grotesque forgotten hero adds to the theme of his legend being effectively erased. Also, considering most 3D Links post OoT have a variety of outfits (HoW and HoTwi dont even begin with the green tunics), I dont think its farfetched to say he got a wardrobe swap.
>couple that with concept designs for the heros shade being a samurai and a woman, its clear no one was thinking of him as being anything other than a random ancestor of TP Link, and that's at very best
You underestimate how much can change at the design phase. V from DMCV was originally drawn as a chick in early concept art before becoming goth human-Vergil
Also:
>Hero's Shade wolf form plays several OoT and MM songs during his training segments
IIRC no one save for the HoT would have access to any of those songs unless he just decided to pass them all down randomly. The Song of Healing is especially noteworthy since it originates in Termina, and no one from Hyrule would have access to it save for the Happy Mask Salesman.
if only TotK had any kind of narrative harmony instead of homosexual retcons, I'd still be excited for Zelda Lore...
Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that. They're just musical references, same thing the series always does with music.
OoT Link starts with the green tunic and uses the hylian shield, and he retains it even into Majora's Mask. He also has all the same memories and skillset as Adult OoT Link, so it's not like he is some completely different character, despite the world not knowing about his journey against Ganon, he himself still lived it. It's a part of his image, and the weapons he uses are a part of his skillset.
When they use the concept of a previous Link showing up in ALBW, it's not outright stated, but he has everything that makes Link. His tunic is recognizable. His weapons are all the same. He can even use the Master Sword. Compare this to the Hero's Shade that was supposed to be a Link that we are very well acquainted with across two games, in both stages of his life at that, and is easily a the top 5 iconic vidya character of all time, and they really would not use anything iconic to the Hero of Time, and the Hero of Time alone?
I just think if they moved beyond the Hero's Shade being some other character like the samurai or the woman during the design phase, and into it being this one specific Link, the design would have been changed to reflect that.
Last thing to mention: Hero of Shade is also like a foot taller than the Hero of Time. Sure clothes is one thing, but height?
I always envisioned the heroes shade to be the embodiment of the spirit of the hero and when he calls link part of his bloodline he means it figuratively because he’s the next in line to the line of heroes. Any other way it makes zero sense because TP takes place several hundred years after OOT and the triforce of courage wouldn’t be passed to just some random descendent.
I don't agree with that, Hero's Shade definitely makes himself out to be a literal person that once lived a life and is now dead. Not an embodiment of anything
I just don't think he was meant to be THE Hero of Time as opposed to some other nameless knight ancestor of Link.
He really doesn’t. The original Japanese is fair ely vague.
>Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that.
OOT Link is the Hero of Time so its not out of the question that he gained more abilities off screen to see different timelines.
if you listen to the WW song from TP its noticeably different. I'd assume the wind god & the song exists in all timelines but because of the differences in them and how people could've passed them down the song itself changed slightly.
OOT link already is a song collector in both OOT and MM so its not wild to assume he'd inevitably learn the Wind Song at some point
He was just feeling a bit edgy because he'd rather be in Hyrule Heaven shooting thick ghost ropes in Malon's spirit pussy, but that fucker Ganondorf came back.
Its not a retcon lol. The game itself makes it very obvious its OOT Link as when you meet him he plays the song of healing to try and turn you back from wolf to human.
Stop linking the eternal embarrassment and the lore spit bucket that is the heroes shade with the HoT please anon. Thanks.
Sweet, a new trip to filter!
I hate this theory, it's the gayest theory, that this undead swordmaster is OoT link turned into a stalfos. it's the gayest gay theory and you're a massive gay for perpetuating it. homo.
>No single hero is blood related to another
>except just this one bro
>the method that the hero is some random dude rising above us ruined
And that’s why TP is retconned by skyward sword…
just saying, it's cooler to think that this hero's shade is the spirit of courage or some shit, some supernatural entity, the idyllic form of a demigod that represents a cosmic justice. a force for good against evil. it could also just be the triforce of courage speaking directly through link's psyche, thus allowing him to tap into past lives and learn techniques that were "handed down by heroes past" or whatever the fuck. you know, like how aang in the last airbender can speak to avatar kyoshi, roshi, etc through the spirit realm, especially because he's talking to a past version of himself. all those memories and experiences are stored in his collective psyche as the avatar, and it's cool to imagine something similar with the bearer of the triforce of courage, because he is effectively a reincarnation of a previous hero. or some shit.
anything is better this this gay ass gay theory.
It reeks of 2005
Them being related is part of what makes Twilight Princess such a great threequel to OoT/MM. The tale of OoT's iconic villain returning to world, and the descendant of that same hero who did him in the first time being mentored by his ancestor to finish the job. It's meat and potatoes storytelling, and the fact that you have to hoist up the worst 3D Zelda as an example of 'doing it right' is telling.
IIRC the Four Swords heroes are all related to each other as well, TP is just the one that stands out because two Links meet each other
How are the four sword hero’s all related? Do you even know how the four sword works anon.
The Link from FSA is a descendant of the one from FS, and I would assume FS Link is also related to MC Link
>that this undead swordmaster is OoT link turned into a stalfos
Was this bit about him being a Stalfos actually in Hyrule Historia or something? I thought it was just parroted by "GAAYYYMMEEE THEORY" types.
I thought WWHD handled it well for the most part, but in TPHD it looked butt ugly.
So... the Hero of Time, then
no, not the hero of time, if anything the moniker would be more nondescript, something like the "Bearer of Courage" or some shit, because no two iterations of link are the same, they all bear different titles, the one thing that ties them all together is that they hold the triforce of courage, and furthermore the hero's shade could just be a manifestation of the triforce of courage itself, appearing to link within his own mind and guiding him so he may fulfill his destiny. none of this implies that the hero's shade is the link from OoT, at least not his corporeal form, and not his specific personality, but perhaps you could say that his essence is present, along with the collective spirit of all past heroes.
I just think its dumb to write it like that when a supposed "Spirit of Courage" has never appeared outside of TP to train a new Link. Its an obvious plothole. Hero's Shade being the HoT makes drastically more sense considering the setting and circumstances of the whole story. I think "HoT is a DEAD STALFOS!!!" is retarded, but Hero's Shade being HoT still makes a lot of sense and offers a solid conclusion to his character.
Based, took the words out of my mouth.
>Why is the stalfospill so hard to swallow Ganker?
Because its retarded.
>HoT can traverse the Lost Woods just fine as an adult in OoT and in MM
>TP Link is the blood descendant of the HoT
>if Link gets lost and dies right after MM, he can't establish a bloodline for TP
>HoT somehow learns Ballad of Gales at some point in his life (implied), so he'd still have adventures outside the Lost Woods
>Link is unaffected by threats posed to non-Kokiri in the Kokiri Forest and Lost Woods because of his childhood with them/he's built different
>saying "The main protag got lost in the woods and died" is a horrible way to conclude a character and I refuse to accept it
>I just think its dumb to write it like that when a supposed "Spirit of Courage" has never appeared outside of TP to train a new Link
ok but TP could've set a precedent. we know that it didn't, but it could've, and that would've offered an explanation of this character's nautre. again, I'm not saying that this is the truth, just that it's gay that people think hero's shade is OOT link. that's gay. it does not make sense. how does it make sense? but, eh, when it comes down to it, I'm not that invested in the discussion, I just view this character as a tutorial character who teaches you new moves and shit. does he really need a backstory?
yeah who cares about hyrule historia? that shit was scrapped together with old bits of fanfiction and spit. it's by no means some definitive codex of knowledge. it was just put out because nintendo are dumb and wanted to cater to timeline fags.
>Was this bit about him being a Stalfos actually in Hyrule Historia or something?
nah it was just a gay theory that gay tendies of times past made up because xDDD deep lore or whatever.
I can't tell if you think it's better or not than hero's shade = OOT link.
I'd say TWWHD looked better than TPHD overall, the former was done in-house and yeah it ruined the toon look, but at least it didn't have impossibly stupid shit like removing definition (textures) from character model faces to show off the new lighting
It's not a theory, it's a fact. Cope with it however you will.
it's a gay theory for gays, like you. homo. cope with that however you will.
It was a theory at one point, now it's a fact. Your sniveling won't ever change that cogent point.
hyrule historia isn't even good enough to use as kindling, so that's what I think of your fact.
Your tantrum doesn't change that HH > your fanfic.
your dicksucking of some fanfic tier trash put out to sate the retardation of timeline whores doesn't mean much to me. eat my ass homo.
I'm just glad it will always btfo homosexual fanfic writers like you.
if it's another remaster can they please not ruin the lighting/textures/whatever like TWWHD and TPHD did
Why is the stalfospill so hard to swallow Ganker?
Circumstantial evidence is enough to sentence a man to death so it has to be enough to figure out the truth without all the puzzle pieces.
Yeah it sucks my boy the hero of time died abused and confused in lost woods but at least he isn't a gay homosexual like BotW link.
Actually now that I think about it being an immortal skeleton is pretty cool.
you could make the argument that link isn't an ordinary person who would be affected by the influence of the lost woods. you could equally make the argument that the idea that 'outsiders will be turned into stalfos if they enter the lost woods' is itself inaccurate, a thing that the kokiri made up just to keep people out of their business. or maybe it's something they actually believe but does not accurately reflect reality. even assuming it is true, why would link, who is very familiar with the area, be suddenly swallowed up by the lost woods and turned into a stalfos? he's the most capable person in hyrule, and to just jump to this conclusion without any evidence is gay. hence why it is a gay theory for gays.
HE CLEARLY GOT OLD AND WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN THOSE WOODS
HE SPENT SO LONG THERE THAT HE DIED AND BECAME A STAFOS
THE WORLD BETRAYED HIM BECAUSE HE NEVER SAID A WORD
Speculated for nearly two decades, confirmed a decade ago, and virgins here dismiss it to this day. It’s really funny, I don’t understand what’s the issue behind it.
It's a select few (shippers) that are mad because it throws a wrench in the newer assertions of canon made from Skyward Shart onward.
I am the only shipper posting in here about this and everyone in this thread hates historia sloppa
>nothing about Stalfos theory
>no explanation for why
>he just is the Hero's Shade
One single statement caused untold seethe
Dunno. They revealed the first Smash DLC at the end of the VGAs years ago. Im not expecting anything, but Im not ruling it out
>Yeah but one of the songs is from wind waker which then just throws a whole wrench in that
Not necessarily. The song is taught by a wind god in WW. There's nothing that suggests they wouldn't exist in the Child Timeline, but that's a whole other autistic discussion. The point is its not impossible for the HoT to have learned it after MM.
As for the design, I believe its intended to really reinforce the notion of this being a forgotten hero. Yeah, the HoT still experienced everything in OoT and MM, but that's the point; for all his deeds, he's not remembered as a hero in his own time. He has no legend, no one to pass his legacy onto, he's a soldier in a time of peace; there's nothing for him to do. Hence his regret and lingering desire. The ambiguity of him also builds on the idea
>Last thing to mention: Hero of Shade is also like a foot taller than the Hero of Time. Sure clothes is one thing, but height?
It looks cooler lol. I dont have an explanation for this one beyond him growing up differently or his soul just taking a different appearance
well theres not much more for me to say I guess. You very well could be right but it's a bit hard for me to buy the developers going
>yeah okay he supposed to be hero of time but, get this, let's make it so that he threw away everything that made him him across these two games and also lets make him way taller for no reason so that it definitely cant be confirmed or even really hinted at visually; lets give him songs he didn't know but just let the player assume he magically somehow picked up a song from a different timeline offscreen haha; and lastly lets also just not let him say outright that he's the hero of time either
oh well
guess i just cant understand the tp writers mindset, albw developers way of doing it makes much more sense to me
this game came out 10 days after I was born, interesting....
Why would they only re-release the TP remake on Switch but not the WW remake?
How crazy would it be if it isn’t a remake, but a sequel to OoT/MM with the Hero of Time Link with a new adventure?
Nintendo have made it very clear they have zero interest in going back to the old Zelda style. BOTW Link is the only Link now. The next game will probably still be BOTW Link but just in a different region with new gameplay style.
it'd be kino ngl but it's not gonna happen, zelda is open world ubislop with fortnite building mechanics now. look I don't even hate BOTW/TOTK but the point is old zelda is dead and it's not coming back. I'd be surprised if they did a whole new game, a continuation of MM, and not just put out yet another port, or maybe one of those special edition gold themed compilations like the gamecube collector's edition.
Just make a sequel to OOT and MM with the same Link again. Fuck sake Nintendo its not hard.
Tp is already retconned they probably will
No they wont. Zelda man has made it very clear in interviews that they do not want to go back to making the old types of Zelda games.
Hero of time can work in BOTW style tho
Only BOTW Link exists now to Nintendo. He is the protagonist of all future Zelda games.
They actually announced that they will not be using the same map for the 3rd time.
I didn't say anything about same map. Its just going to be BOTW Link and Zelda again but in a new country or whatever. Not in Hyrule.
there is no where in that world that isn't hyrule you retard
it's the planet hyrule
where the fuck is he supposed to go?
you literally pulled that out of your ass you mong
Dude there are neighboring countries. Akkala citadel in BOTW has cannons positioned toward the sea. Holodrum, Labrynna, ETC
the cannons are for pirates you dumbass
get the fuck off my planet hyrule with that stupidity
>planet Hyrule
Nope.
King Rhoam is from an outside territory.
Next you're going to tell me that there's a planet dodongo in your ass.
Keep drinking that bleach bro
Zelda man said Hyrule is on Earth in an interview with I think it was game informer.
Why you seething? Just a different land mass or the sea or whatever. Who cares. Its just going to be the same Link and Zelda from botw and totk but in a different location from botw and totk.
There are landmasses off in the distance at sea that you can see, also the cliffs that you cant go over either.
In other games there are always places outside of Hyrule as well. The planet has never been Hyrule. It's always way too small. and always blocked off
Play the Oracles games dumbass
Miyamoto already answered this question and he says the world is "earth" "earth-like" and Hyrule is just a part of it.
Hytopia is literally a different kingdom just north of Hyrule.
True but also kinda tricky because Nintendo also says since 2011 that Holodrum and Labrynna are in separate realities.
>2011 that Holodrum and Labrynna are in separate realities.
Imagine taking anything nintendo says as fact and literal. Just take what’s from the games. I’m so sick of these game books and retarded off the cuff interviews rewriting what we know.
>Just take what’s from the games.
the games kinda imply it too because of the deku tree occupying the same space despite being in two different kingdoms.
But then again it doesn't make sense with Link's Awakening's voyage to or from the Oracle games if it was a different reality.
It’s the same shit with people saying OOX Link isn’t the hero of legend simply because of one remark from Zelda. Except that Link is already a hero at the start of OOX, hears the call of the triforce and is given express access to it because by then he is already the keeper of the triforce. Zelda should have known him. Seemed like a translation error or a mistake by capcom. At the end of OOX he even gets in the same boat as LA, and at the start of LA he references Zelda as he already knows her
>Zelda should have known him.
I had assumed the wish to fix everything at the end of ALttP had the adverse effect of undoing Link/Zelda having ever met. Like wishing for everything to go back to the way it was before Agahnim took over also meant the events that led to Link/Zelda meeting never happened at all. Hence Zelda not recognizing Link in OoX makes sense if the wish retconned their meeting
This is possible. I didn’t think about it like this. Curious as the ending of ALTTP indeed does not show Link and Zelda together. Good take
I doubt that ever being the case. AST, though not canon anymore, was written as a direct sequel and Zelda definitely didn't forget the events of ALttP, which shows developer intent from that period in time.
They did? Where?
3D Zelda FROM BEST to SHIT
Majora's Mask>Ocarina of Time>Windwaker>Twilight Princess>Skyward Sword>TotK+DLC2
Why did they refuse to make dlc for Tears of the Kingdom when it sold so well? Why does Nintendo act in such a random retarded way?
Zelda fangames are the future.
Lucky for us Anons are making the next real Zelda game.
I don't think Nintendo is interested in targeting boomers with a sequel to OOT and MM. They target the zoomer audience these days and zoomers wouldn't give a fuck about a sequel to OOT and MM.
Ya'll niggas is going to be disappointed when all this leak shit is just going to be ports of the wiiu versions of WW and TP and ports of the 3DS versions of OOT and MM.
That would be unironically wonderful
MM3D is a miss but at least we get a version of the game that's not butt ugly
nintendo for whatever reason will NEVER port 3DS games to switch except for Miitopia
You'd swear they were honoring their third pillar thing and didnt replace the 3DS
Ganker did more for the anniversary of OOT with the secrets threads than Nintendo will.
The new Zelda film will be BOTW link
the game will probably be OOT related I hope
>the full, complete Space World build or perhaps an even earlier beta gets leaked to commemorate the anniversary
imagine
why does this homosexual tell so many lies? What does he gain from it? Does he have a patreon or something? https://zippospeaks.blogspot.com/2023/11/he-will-return.html#comments
Should I watch the Hero's Purpose SFM videos
Are they kino, cringe kino, or just cringe
The guy's channel has OoT AMVs from ten years ago so my money's on the middle but I don't know if I'm mentally ready
>Zelink
>link and Zelda hug
Yes they are kino. Cringe kino sometimes but really kino
>tripfag likes it
Ill skip it then, thanks
Suit yourself anon
schizo
irrelevant considering the series makes Malink the canon route
>planet Hyrule
>planet Hyrule
>planet Hyrule
>planet Hyrule
>planet Hyrule
>planet Hyrule
Planet Hyrule, simple as.
Gay Link is done.
Those homosexuals at big N don’t even acknowledge it anymore. OOT and MM might as well be a different series now
>separate entity based on a manle adventurer and later his descendant in TP
>meanwhile every new Zelda gets built atop Skyward Sword's diarrhea bedrock where Link's sole purpose is to be a waifufag for Zelda at all times
Okay.
yeah skyward sword was a soft reboot that's why they went back to the very beginning of the timeline for it
bye bye golden goddesses hello hylia
zelda and link are not longer just acquaintances most of the time and rarely hinted to be lovers sometimes, they are now eternal soulmates bound by divine right
no it didnt start with ganondorf actually all it was all an ancient eternal evil from the primordial ooze
and it cant be killed so it's going to be around in some capacity in ever game going forward
among other things
lol boomers think Nintendo cares about your old shit.
Hero's "Shade" I took to mean it wasn't literally the OoT's spirit/soul, but a reflection of his regrets. The idea that Time regrets not being remembered for the hero he became and left behind a semblance of his being that would be able to pass on his skills to a worthy descendent I thought was a cool aspect, but I don't think it means Time literally turned into a Stalfos. It just takes on that appearance because he's a spirit mainly comprised of a lingering regret, which usually describes undead.
Realistically, what's stopping anyone from just developing their own game based off classic Zelda? Nintendo's not going to use the formula anymore. There's a whole chunk of Zelda fans hungry for something like the older games. How come no devs want to capitalize on it? Do people just not understand what made OoT, MM, and what came before magical?
Literally skill. It's so easy to go "everyone loves Zelda games, why doesn't anyone ape them?" but it realistically takes a lot of design skill to create a bunch of interconnected dungeons in a huge interconnected world using original items and mechanics that tie it all together. For this reason there are only SOME 2D Zelda-likes, but virtually no 3D ones, because it's just too much for amateur indie devs. Zelda games were developed by seasoned professionals often with decades of experience.
Are we really gonna do this every 5 years now? At least wait for round numbers.
Was that homosexual Jeff Grubb just talking shit when he said we were getting another Zelda game announcement this year?
Can someone please explain the function of the triforce to me?
I don't really understand how the pieces separated work.
The triforce of power is the only one that seems to grant any abilities to the wielder by making them more powerful but the triforce of courage and triforce of wisdom don't really do ...anything?
Remember Link didnt't even use/need the trifoce of courage is many games, so it doesn't do anything.
The triforce of wisdom also doesn't seems to give Zelda anything, her sealing abilities are separate to the triforce.
dont worry. the triforce is no longer a thing in totk. its old lore.
Yea I know Nintendo doesn't care anymore but I'm asking for when they did.
>Triforce of Wisdom = Magic, I'm pretty sure most of Zelda's abilities and spells are based on knowledge gifted to her by the Triforce
Wrong, even as far back as OoT Zelda is acknowledged to have special powers due to the lineage of the royal family (you know this thanks to the composer brothers talking about it) So her powers don't come from the triforce, her sealing powers were always from her royal blood later explained to be from Hylia.
>riforce of Courage = fate hax, I think it's the canon explanation for how even when Link 'dies' (ie gets a game over) he keeps coming back
I don't really buy it.
Link did most of WW without it (the triforce of courage didn't think WW Link was a true hero hence why he manually had to gather each piece), MM without it, all the fourtswords games without it.
It's not really explaining why they were successful on their mission.
Triforce of Wisdom = Magic, I'm pretty sure most of Zelda's abilities and spells are based on knowledge gifted to her by the Triforce
Triforce of Courage = fate hax, I think it's the canon explanation for how even when Link 'dies' (ie gets a game over) he keeps coming back
people used to say that triforce of courage gave link undertale save reload powers kek
fun times
the triforce is a holy artifact left behind by the three goddesses of hyrule. it has immense power, but only when fully intact. only a pure and balanced person can acquire the fully intact triforce. if a person whose heart is mired by lust or greed, or otherwise lacks some other aspect of the triforce's perfection, were to try and acquire the triforce, they would only receive the piece that they most resonate with, and the other two pieces would reject this person and seek out two others who would make suitable candidates for its power. ganondorf in ocarina of time lusted for power, so he received only the triforce of power, which is immense on its own. it allows him to do incredible things, like change his form but it's not the fullest extent of the power. therefore, the only way an imperfect one can acquire the full extent of its power is to track down the bearers of the other aspects and take it from them forcibly.
the triforce of courage gives its bearer the courage to see through their mission. basically you're granted the godlike ability to face your fears, face doubt and uncertainty, etc. furthermore the triforce of knowledge gives its bearer an aptitude for acquiring and using information to the best of its application. basically, you're granted sage like insight and intellect. it may also be the case that the bearer of knowledge can receiving supernatural like visions, as we know that zelda was already having prophetic dreams prior to receiving the aspect of knowledge.
now, the argument against this theory is thus: since the triforce seeks out these people who already inhabit these qualities, then it would seemingly have no effect, but I would argue that the triforce deemed them the perfect candidate to inahbit expressly because of this fact, so it will further enhance these qualities in those who it inhabits.
>the triforce of courage gives its bearer the courage to see through their mission.
Except for those links that finished the missons without the need. It's just not clearly explained but I understand what you're getting at.
Zelda's abilities don't come from the triforce though, her visions and sealing powers are because of her royal blood.
The Triforce of courage heals link from and protects him against dark magic. It also restores his health against ganondorf.
I don't get it. If Link is unkillable while wielding the Triforce of courage then how did he lose to ganondorf in oot, creating the downfall timeline?
>then how did he lose to ganondorf in oot, creating the downfall timeline?
The downfall timeline contradicts OOT entirely.
the Deku Tree stated it was Link's destiny to defeat Ganondorf, meaning he was never going to ever lose.
He didn't say that. He said that Link is Hyrule's final hope, which is true even in the downfall timeline since the sages are successful in sealing Ganon thanks to Link's prior efforts.
>The youth whose destiny it is to lead Hyrule to the path of justice and truth...
This is still true no matter the timeline.
>This is still true no matter the timeline.
Hmm. I don't think so. Link dying against Ganon in OOT would lead Hyrule to destruction, not justice and truth.
It didn't though, his sacrifice lead to the awakened sages sealing Ganon.
I don't know. I don't think too hard about it anymore. I liked the old days. When I was growing up and OOT and MM just came out, we just considered Link to be a different character every game. We had LA, ALTTP (I didn't play AOL or Zelda 1 until we got the Wind Waker demo CD). When WW came out, we were so fucking confused. even with Nintendo power had had absolutely no idea where that game took place. Only until TP came out we really understood, "oh, timelines"
I know, I used to post on Zelda Legends, Universe and Informer religiously. It's obvious that the DT is a cop-out to address the inconsistencies with having OoT as the Sealing War while TWW very obviously stole ALttP's spot on the AT. As much as I don't like the DT, I don't find it particularly contradictory other than it existing because of a "what if".
Believe it or not, ALTTP - > OOX -> AOL -> Zelda 1 - > Zelda 2 are the most consistent games in the series.
The lore was intentionally vague and full of old 21st century fantasy tropes. It was perfect that way. They ruined everything with OOT and its timeline sequels.
old 20th century*
>ALTTP -> OOX -> AOL
You probably meant LA rather than AoL, which I agree with. I would like to add that one of the earlier drafts of OoT's story more closely aligned with ALttP's manual, so the inconsistencies it brought to the table were an unfortunate side effect of its tumultuous development. I can respect the intent Osawa and the others had for Zelda 64.
Yeah my bad. Didn’t even see that typo. Anyway I’m getting out the thread now. I can’t deal with this nut everyday.
nothing in the series is inconsistent
That’s a load of shit and you know it
You are responding to my post so I'll assume you understand the context. Back in the late '90s, there was absolutely a glaring inconsistency with the state of the Triforce in the adult timeline, leading into ALttP.
I hat this downfall bs so much, I'd actually give the official Zelda timeline the benefit of the doubt and acknowldege that Nintendo somewhat planned it all out if it werent for this garbage. Why the fuck isn't there a dowfall timeline for every game then. What makes this specific point in time in oot so fucking special?
It was a complete afterthought by Nintendo to make more sequels. Why do you think they have abandoned it.
The effective canon is now SS -> MC -> FS -> BOTW/TOTK
the twist is the triforce never did anything. the power link, zelda and ganondorf used all came from their own belief in themselves.
What's even more confusing is that when Ganondorf uses the Zonai stone it's basically functioning exactly like the triforce of power.
Now that I think about it, the zonai stones are basically functioning specifically like the triforce of power by making the user's natural abilities stronger.
Are the zonai stones just small pieces of the triforce of power? Similar to how the triforce of courage was broken?
The Triforce exists in BotW, yet somehow it gets ZERO acknowledgement (implied or explicit) in TotK.
Fujibayashi said in an jnterview recently that the original Hyrule kingdom fell before Sonia and Rauru made it again. Knowledge of it went away
Then it was fucking retarded to tease the Triforce in BotW, unless there are plans for a 3rd Wildverse game (please christ no).
Okay thanks I was wondering how the fuck the timeline worked with TOTK's new revelation that it was founded by sky-furries completely contradicting how it was founded in Skyward Sword
So BOTW/TOTK are so fucking far down the future all of the original games happened long before it and the 'past' you see in TotK with Hyrule's 'founding' was just a re-founding long after the original kingdom was gone? While that doesn't clash with the lore that' still kind of gay that the new games are going this far out of the way to refuse to do anything with the originals
Essentially this is what this means. It was so easy to see too. The world does not line up 1:1 with skyward sword either.
>The world does not line up 1:1 with skyward sword either.
Except when it does because of Hylia and Fi in the Mastersword. see
In fact I would go so far as to claim that SS has the closest ties to the new wild games.
I said 1:1. I know there are tons of references to SS like the shrines and stuff. But a lot of things are strangely off but that makes sense given SS occurred 15,000 years before BOTW
>completely contradicting how it was founded in Skyward Sword
That's not true because even 12 years ago we knew that the ending of SS wasn't the founding of Hyrule. Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
So tired of people equating that to the "founding".
Skyward Sword Zelda ascended to godhood after she had lots of babies with Link.
Assuming Zelda/Link really did do their fair share of repopulating Hyrule upon their return to the surface at the end of SS, considering the small population of Skyloft, I really think there is a strong possibility most of Hyrule in general is SS Link's descendants and therefore a lot of Links probably do share his blood to some degree
Too distant to matter honestly. The only blood that stays consistently narrow is the Hyrulean royal family. Incest is probably implied but nintendo would never comfirm
OH BOY, SMOOCHING TIME!
>replace cartoon Link into your favorite Zelda game.
What changes?
Link tries to molest all the pretty girls.
>5 of the 7 Sages are pregnant by the end of the game. Also Malon and the chicken lady from Kakariko.
>Also every single Gerudo in the canyon
Cartoon Link and Cdi Link are both based.
this. they had to mute him cause he was too powerful
>Nintendo said in 2011 that Hyrule was founded some generations AFTER SS Zelda and Link descend on the surface at the ending of SS.
That’s a little silly, the goddess reincarnated descends back to earth and instead of immediately getting started on establishing a new kingdom they just faff about for several decades?
I gets more confusing because it makes you think about which "refounding" he's talking about.
Reminder that in SS there's implication of a previous Hyrule Kingdom of the surface thanks to the super ancient Temple of Time in Lanayru desert having the Royal family crest.
>That’s a little silly, the goddess reincarnated descends back to earth and instead of immediately getting started on establishing a new kingdom they just faff about for several decades?
How is that silly? They literally just moved back to the surface to repopulate it now that it is safe (for a time) - They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made. A lot like the culture Sonia is from BEFORE she met Rauru.
>They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made
But they already had a culture that was nothing like that back in Skyloft, why would they suddenly turn tribal-looking after generations of stable civilization in the sky?
SS Zelda ascended to goddesshood.
The voice talking to BOTW Link is SS Zelda. That is why Zelda cannot hear the voice of the goddess.
This new OOT doujin perfectly encapsulates that idea of mine.
Source;https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/113101498#manga
Wait, where is the porn? Did you removed it?
Zelink artists rarely draw porn and when sex is depicted it is tasteful.
>They literally just moved back to the surface to repopulate it now that it is safe (for a time) - They probably formed some Neolithic tribal like culture before the kingdom was made.
They weren’t starting from scratch, people from Skyloft likely joined them and I imagine there were probably humans outside of Hyrule that never ascended to the sky and were just stuck on the surface the entire time demons roamed the earth that would still be further along developmentally
Right but that doesn't mean they went straight to making medieval style Hyrule kingdom. The Kingdom wasn't founded until generations later by their descendants.
I didn’t say they went right to medieval era Hyrule kingdom, but the establishment of the kingdom i.e. Zelda being recognized as royalty should have happened a short while after their arrival back on the surface
Zelda wasn’t royalty she was a literal goddess stuck in a human body. This is why every Zelda afterwards has the blood of the goddess. They are all more than mere mortals.
She wasn’t royalty but still would have established the royal family
Right but as per Nintendo 10 years ago that did not happen. They said specifically that the founding happened generations later.
>and were just stuck on the surface the entire time demons roamed the earth that would still be further along developmentally
What's interesting to me is that Sonia looks much more blood related to Impa from Skyward Sword (tan skin, bleach blonde hair) than to anyone else we know.
To add to this in Skyward Sword Hylia gave Impa (and all sheikah by association) special time manipulation abilities so they could use the Doors of Time to complete their mission.
Is this where Sonia gets her time powers?
The goddess of time referenced in OOT is hylia
Yea, and it's also reinforced by the fact that the OoT source code leaks names the Temple of Time as "Cathedral of Hylia".
People like to pretend that Nintendo though Hylia was an entirely novel idea for SS.
Nah they are coping hard. There has been a blueprint drawn for Zelda since way before OOT.
There’s no “Goddess of Time” in Ocarina, that’s Majora
“Hylia” in this instance refers to the Hylian people, Link to the Past was the first game to mention Hylia and in that game it’s used as a term to refer to the people of Hyrule, not a goddess. Cathedral of Hylia would mean something like a Hylian church
>in ocarina, that’s majora
I consider OOT and MM the same game and the same story. mm simply reconciles the key elements of OOT
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It's also interesting that Zelda would mention the godess of time herself due to the blood connection she has to Hylia.
The composer brothers in OoT also say that they were researching the royal family's special abilities and magic back to their origins of the royal family. Again these ideas are not new in SS.
Zelda’s probably share memories of their past lives due to the blood of the goddess and the triforce’s effect on their family.
You forever*
Hmmm... if only there was a version of Hyrule that was destroyed and all memory of the triforce and mastersword was forgotten...
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You can also see the triforce on Zelda's hand while she's restoring the mastesword in TotK.
Personally I don't think it means anything especially after Tears of the Kingdom's Sonia and Rauru explaining why Zelda has the abilities she does. But at the same time her time powers are also much stronger than Sonia's in that one cutscene, so maybe it's because the triforce? Idk, time travel and triforce don't mix well as it historically shatters it.
Sonia has the triforce tattooed on her hand so iconography is Al that remains. Sonia doesn’t know what the triforce is or the sacred realm
I don't give a shit, if Nintendo decides to release a 3D All-Stars-esque Ocarina/Majora compilation I'll shamelessly eat that shit up even at 60 burgershekels because I have no integrity.
Isn't OOT already on the Switch though? It's that dumb paid online bullshit. Also its probably the shitty version with the green blood.
So is Mario 64 but Nintendo still released an HD version.
Why would they remake TP for the Switch before remaking WW????????
They were both already remastered on Wii U it would just be a port job
Also this thread is about OoT
Why do these journalist leak homosexuals just tease shit for weeks and months instead of being efficient and just saying what it is and getting it over with immediately?
For two reasons:
1. To protect their sources
2. Reader engagement
Might open up totk again and try and finish up all the shrines. I stopped once I got to 100. Haven't played it since launch.
Didn't you get the memo? Nintendo fans hate OoT now, everything that isn't BOTW style is shit.
>Switch fans hate OoT
ftfy, there's remarkably little crossover between Switch fans and pre-existing Nintendo fans.
>noooo if you don't pretend my game made for literal 7 year olds is LITERALLY the best thing ever made by humanity you le HATE it!
lol Nintendo nigs are such manchildren.
I don't think they will do anything for the 25th anniversary and I think all those leakers and journalists are a bunch of clout chasing homosexuals making up nonsense for views.
What the actual fuck happened between Minish Cap and Twilight Princess to make the Oocca?
What the actual fuck happened between Twilight Princess and Tears of the Kingdom to make the Zonai?
>Oocca
Sky Hylians mating with Loftwings (also creating the Rito)
>Zonai
No clue
>What the actual fuck happened between Minish Cap and Twilight Princess to make the Oocca?
Seeing how adaptation works in Zelda you could argue that the Ooca are just the leftover people of Skyloft or the wind tribe that changed over time.
Remember same games as River Zora = Domain Zora = Rito over few centuries.
And reminder that Shad wasn't wrong about sky beings founding Hyrule, he was just wrong about the beings (he himself admits the Ooca being the beings was just a personal theory).
Zonai come from the same place as the Lokomo, probably even the same beings. That is to say that the unseen sky world above Hyrule is just as busy as the surface with different tribes and cultures.
Better question, why the fuck are goat people living in the sky? and not the birds?
I had some argue with me early in the year that the goddess of time wasn’t hylia. Hylia is the patron goddess of the royal family and the royal families aspect is time manipulation with an heirloom that can reverse time. It’s so obvious.
Why does Nintendo hate OoT so much to the point they tried to retcon it in Skyward Sword?
In Zelda 2 Adventure of Link there's an item simply called "Trophy"
In the Japanese release it's called "godess statue"
And it's a statue of a winged woman.
https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Trophy
Hylia is nothing new to the series.
>unnamed goddess statue back when the primary religion in Zelda was Christianity
>”this means they had a character introduced 25 years later planned from the start!”
I thought we moved past these leaps of logic, it doesn’t even make sense when if she was planned from that early on they would have introduced her alongside the golden goddesses if the statue actually had any importance to the setting
Zelda's original mythology is all cringe and it was better when they stuck to Christianity with Link as a holy warrior.
Since Nintendo themselves would obviously never do such a thing nowadays, it'd be dope to see a 3D game ROMhack evoke this more quaint style of Zelda mythology and medievalism.
I really miss the medieval fantasy of Zelda. Now it's borderline sci-fi with very little medieval.
I don't think they need to be strictly realistic medieval/medieval-fantasy trappings, but BotW and TotK go too far in making tech shit a major constant trapping. In previous games, tech was treated as a gag or as something special.
Basically yeah. In OOT for instance, the most "advanced" technologies are spring-loaded gizmos and gadgets like the Hookshot or Bombchus, which in-universe are strictly new and rare inventions.
In BoTW/ToTK meanwhile you basically have hyper-advanced science fiction technology except coated in a layer of """ancient civilization""" paint
>fantasy game
>very alien tech on-par with or more advanced than the modern world
>MC has a not-iPhone
>gadgets and machinery inconceivable for the time period presented
>guns are somehow non-existent despite this
>"it is... le future post-apocalypse!!!" to explain why the sci-fi elements aren't more widespread or even acknowledged by the population
I HATE this post-modern fantasy trend like you wouldnt believe bros. Unimaginative and boring slop that do NOTHING to spark wonder and mystique. Everything has an explanation, everything is man-made, nothing is cool, nothing is special. The only setting this worked in was Elder Scrolls since Dwarves at least felt more steampunk than modern. WHY does Nintendo insist on this shit?
I don't like it either but what other game does this besides TOTK/BOTW?
Off the top of my head, Horizon Zero Dawn and Pokemon Legends, though admittedly the latter is limited to just a glorified iPhone. Still bogus, but its not as bad. Technically Skyward Sword had elements of these as well if I remember right, but it wasnt very egregious
Skyward Sword
There's no magic anymore, literally. Link didn't just used to use magical items, he used to cast magic spells as well. He used to use magic. He doesn't do that anymore.
The Zelda series really has lost all of the pseudo-religious/mythological iconography, and is really worse for it. Shit sucks, man
Nice headcanon.
Thanks, Nintendo likes it too
You know they would remove it if they ever remake Zelda 1 or 2.
A port is not a remake, also it's renamed the "Book of Magic" in all of the english versions.
>Nintendo still makes official Christmas products.
>No Hanuka, no Quanza, no "Holydays" products.
>They're named CHIRSTmas
Anon....
>Hallmark product made under license from Nintendo
Also, why in Animal Crossing is Christmas called "Toy Day"?
I feel like they're doing the sony thing where the old games don't exist anymore. So like breath of the wild is THE legend of zelda now. Nothing else exists. Which sucks because dungeon zelda is better than open (empty) world zelda.
>Twilight Princess breaks all previous Zelda sales records and is incredibly popular
>Hmmm people loved it, but let's make something complete different for the next one
>Breath of the Wild breaks all previous Zelda sales records and is incredibly popular
>This is Zelda now, everything going forward will not deviate from this
Very cool, thanks Nintendo.
The devs wanted to make an ambitious sequel but Miyamoto shut them down and turned it into the Crossbow tech demo
Not a full romhack but someone is making mods for it that make it more like Ocarina of Time with OoT Link and the same enemy and item designs
>The devs wanted to make an ambitious sequel but Miyamoto shut them down and turned it into the Crossbow tech demo
Never been more divided on someone in vidya
>gave us the Pikmin series, and pushed for Star Fox to have a big-titted blue bombshell
>also canned a Twilight Princess sequel and made Star Fox Zero
Well Miyamoto is now the theme parks and movies guy now so I don't think he'll be involved with software development anymore.
>Wind Waker does middlingly and is a divisive game, both for its artstyle and gameplay direction
>holy shit this needs two sequels and like half a dozen other games mimicking its artstyle, starting before WW even comes out
But the truth is, what primarily screwed TP out of any sequel despite its great sales and fine reviews is that it bombed in Japan. Back then, Japan was given far more priority over other regions by Nintendo in gauging their business decisions.
That's my birthday! 1993 bros
Happy early birthday
>25th anniversary
I suppose there really is no excuse for putting off a playthrough, it's been way too long. If nothing else, I owe it to myself as a lover of the cute redheaded farm girl.
i sometimes boot up my 3ds save just to stare at malon in 3d for like an hour
Same, I just love the atmosphere of Lon Lon Ranch.
>most kino when you enter at sunset and the music still plays.
i would love to play oot in vr but but last time i tried there was no non jank way to set it up
That's some schizo behavior, dawg. Reconsider your life's direction.
Leave em alone, he ain't hurting nobody.
Probably easier than hooking up your N64/GameCube/Wii/Wii U. Holy hell, this game's been everywhere. Do people really want a remake?
Lon Lon Ranch is max comfy. I've been enamored ever since I was a child, when I heard the music and eventually her singing.
Official remix from Nintendo that was was released back in 99.
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>Epona's Song has official lyrics
where the FUCK has this been all my life?!
Welcome to the secret world of zelda remix CD albums that came out only in Japan around the time of the N64.
(Yeah my shelves are dusty, shut up)
Now you're reminding me how badly I want a Four Swords Adventures port where you can play online without GBA's
Four Swords 99, how would it work?
1. It'd be called 99 Swords in that case
2. A glorious clusterfuck of all the players constantly killing each other as they try to get through the level, horribly inefficient but so fun you don't even mind
>Link picks up the 99 Sword and splits into almost a hundred duplicates
>Vaati shits himself
>Vaati gets his twink asshole plundered by 99 Chad Links
wtf were they thinking with that
classic blunder of the 2000's era of nintendo. Peripheral hell.
anon put this on soulseek or in a mega immediately i beg you
No Stone Tower Temple huh... dang you got my hopes up.
she's a down-home country qt
No one can surpass.
Shit, how do I always forget this exists? It's so beautiful. Might be because I tend to get obsessed with the "orchestral" version.
>OoT remake means new Malon 3D model
Suddenly that doesn't sound so bad.
how have I been a zelda fan for this long and not known this existed
Did you know that Link to the Past had a short radio drama that released along the soundtrack?
Wild shit.
As the other guy said, it was Japan only for a long time until the internet helped us out. I'm also really fond of this one. I remember another video of it was up for a decent while as being part of the 25th symphony. A lie, but a pretty one.
Damn this is probably the most beautiful version of the song I've ever heard. It sounds like a lullaby the words to which have been long-forgotten, as only the melody remains.
I have no idea what I came back to, but this isn't great. More Malon should make things better.
It's almost enchanting, it is.
>Link couldn't handle the cock
malon was a 3d model zelda option reappropriated while still working on story, nobody likes malon
I like Malon.
Hear hear!
>post MM game where the Hero of Time is figuring what to do with himself, maybe still looking for Navi and helping people.
>post Adult-Timeline OoT game where Zelda is trying to keep Hyrule under control from Non-Ganon evil entities because she sent Link back in time.
>>post Adult-Timeline OoT game where Zelda is trying to keep Hyrule under control from Non-Ganon evil entities because she sent Link back in time.
Now this is a more interesting idea for a game. That future is the real version of Hyrule anyways not the one Link was sent back to. As the one Zelda stayed in was the Hyrule that experienced all the events of OOT. She is also best Zelda. People also want a playable Zelda game.
I'm just waiting on that OOT visual remake guy to finish it.
Ocarina of Time was my first harem anime before I even knew what a harem anime was
also includes Nabooru who offered ara-ara to Young LInk and was clearly interested in Adult Link
If the remake rurmors are true that means she's coming back.
i want a new 2d game so fucking bad
Same
10 year anniversary of ALBW is on the 22nd of this month
Why are people thinking they will do a new remake instead of just porting oot3d?
If they're gonna do one or the other they might as well just remake it on a proper home console instead of adapting a DS game to single-screen.
If something was happening it would have leaked by now
Grezzo are working on an original IP but them taking time to make another OOT remake to keep the lights on makes sense. Especially if said IP is going to be independently published.
>sequel taking place between MM and TP featuring adult Link
>shows how he got the Hero’s Shade armor
Would be kino
sadly too kino for nintendo
Nintendo doesn't do that type of thing
Sounds too inspired for Fujibayahsi
I'm surprised there aren't more mods for the PC port.
If there's one thing that TOTK got me interested in, it's the idea of an Action RPG Zelda spinoff with party members and everything you could customize. Would this interest anyone else?
It would be really cool in a spinoff like game.
Call it "Knights of Hyrule" and let you create your own character from one of the races.
Isn't this just Hyrule Warriors?
You're not familiar with musou games, are you?
Maybe? I didn't play Warriors but I mean more like Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts in terms of party management
Musou games are SHIT
Do 25th anniversary mean anything in Japan? I hope they release an interview I saw on the scifi channel with Miyamoto when the game was initially released.
mario 25th anniversary was a pretty big deal and zelda 25th anniversary got us an orchestral concert cd and a splashcard in front of the skyward sword game. that game kinda
I think its also a mix of 25th anniversary with Jeff Grub and some others saying Nintendo is doing some Zelda thing at end of this year that's not TOTK related.
Give me new 2d Zelda again. Or at least a remake of the gba games
minish cap looked great. i can't imagine a remake looking better tbdesu
What would an OoT remake even really accomplish? Like an honest to god real remake reimagining and not simply a port like OoT3D?
it means we get the actually hot gerudo designs back instead of the ugly monsters we have now
Okay, gay.
Fill the world with more shit to do. Always felt empty to me.
OOT3D is a ground-up remake. It remakes literally everything besides its source code. What you want is a reimagining like FF7. Anyways
>Restore cut content/scope
>Realize a few areas or mechanics a bit more
>Add new stuff
>adds cut content
>adds new stuff
I wish remakes were like that
It seems like nearly all remakes fall in one of several categories:
>pointless remake that adds nothing new
>pointless remake that shoehorns in some piddly bonus content shilling a future game (future relative to the original's release)
>absolutely apeshit remake that ruins the gameplay and/or story because the producer(s) have an egotistical need to get their new set of crayons out and add their special mark all over something beloved
I would see it as an experimental phase where Nintendo tries to blend the, love it or hate it, proven success of BOTW's open world with more traditional Zelda formula with the game that wrote the book on traditional Zelda formulas
>Hyrule is still open world but slimmed down significantly in scale, allowing them to do more work with what they have and make the various settings feel more fleshed out and interesting rather than just assuming bigger is better
>They do away with the broken weapon system and instead introduce a smith who, similar to in LttP, is capable of upgrading the Master Sword with various effects/charms the player can customize and maybe do the same for all the other returning items as well like the Boomerang, Hookshot, Arrows, etc.
>Add even more questlines in to the various towns and characters for both Child and Adult timelines, and even crossing over where more certain quests will open up after doing them in Child or getting something you need in Adult
Basically a grand experiment to see if open-world has a place in Zelda's future combined with the gameplay/puzzles/atmosphere of the original games
This.
I think Nintendo wants to cater to every type of Zelda fan with different games like they do with Mario.
>and even crossing over where more certain quests will open up after doing them in Child or getting something you need in Adult
This is something I really wish OOT did. More back and forth between child and adult. Like if midway through you found NEW items as an adult that you could ONLY use as a child (instead, only the opposite of this ever happens in-game) and had a harder additional child dungeon partway through the game. They flirted with this with the Well and half of the Spirit Temple, but ultimately all the points like that where you need to bring something from the adult era back to the child era, are only so that you can then bring something ELSE from the child era back to adult to that you can progress as an adult.
Aonuma said in an interview recently that most people don't know who Rauru is. Hinting at OoT's origin for the character, so it's likely going to be a way of reintroducing the roots of the series to new players.
Rauru's such a minor character. I still don't get why they named their Zonai character Rauru as well. Like, was there anybody going "Ahh hell yeah! It's Rauru!"?
When Ganondorf namedropped Rauru in the intro I baseded out because the idea of the original Ganondorf still having memories of all his prior encounters with Link and Zelda has a ton of potential and it’s also cool as a callback
Then it turned out to be a different Rauru, a different Ganondorf and a different Imprisoning War. What the fuck was the point
That's what I thought as well. What I was saying is, outside of that context, who ever cared about Rauru as a character?
>IT's a new Ganondorf
This was also a severe disappointment. It's one of the defining traits of the trinity
>Zeldas are all blood-related
>Link is the same dude reincarnating
>Ganondorf is the same guy throughout all the games (with minor exceptions like FSA which is made by Capcom)
And it's not even really a 'new' Ganondorf, it's the exact same plot/motivations of OoT Ganondorf just recycled. BotW onwards is going so far out of its way to remove any ties to the original canon, it's so close to not even being Zelda anymore in anything but name
FSA wasn't made by Capcom/Flagship.
My bad, I thought all the Four Swords Trilogy was Capcom. Still given how distinct it is from the rest of the Zelda series (level-based gameplay, multiplayer as a core mechanic, etc) I think some breach of lore etiquette is acceptable. BotW/TotK are mainline zelda games
The point is that Fujibayashi and Aonuma hate Zelda.
>zelink schizo has invaded the thread
why
he left and went back to dilating a while ago
I expect nothing.
They will announce the live action OoT movie on November 21!
I can feel it.
>game awards world premiere
>this music starts playing
Truly an OcaKINO of Time.
that would only happen on the good timeline. Not the shit one that we're in
i don't even know who the fuck vaati is
He was the main antagonist in Minish Cap. Kinda an evil wizard type guy.
This little edgy boi slut.
he cute
Evil giant eyeball that casts wind magic and steals princesses
Would have been cool to have him appear as a secret boss on TotK
There will be no remake. ecelebs are lying.
>new zelda is announced
>link is black, a gerudo
>ancestor dicked down a gerudo at some point
>born along with a twin brother
>its ganon
>neither know of their legacy
>memory shit slowly is revealed over time
>ganon fucks off to do demon lord shit
>link gets shat on everywhere he goes because "a male gerudo" is fucking shit up, again
>dual wield scimitars, get some kind of demon blade later to dual wield with master sword
>glorious brotherly duel at the end with full LIQUIIIIIIIIIIID screams
Kino...
I’ve seen this exact concept pitched dozens of times over the years and it’s still just as dumb and predictable every single time
Listen I'm trying to find an excuse to drop the sword n shield shit for something cooler.
Pitch an idea to make link use his fucking fists and ill take it
long day at work today, what's everyone talking about?
Fuck off triptranny
Filter me, but when I eventually turn off my trip once it isn't needed anymore, what then are you gonna cry about?
He'll false-flag as you like he did during his meltdown a few days ago.
>ACfag reenters a dead thread solely to seethe about Zelink
kek
Get out. You're not wanted in OoT threads with your homosexualry.
dude honestly. what in the FUCK is wrong with you?
Seethe more.
>dude just filter me
>Immediately takes off his tripcode to have a conversation with himself like the schizophrenic retard he is
you've actually lost it. look at the post times dip shit.
There is more than one Zelink shipper on Ganker.
ZeLinktranny you don't belong in these threads you know that
Zelinktranny nobody believes your larp just go and take your meds
KEK
Dump your image folder Zelinktranny like you always do when you're butthurt
I haven't dumped my image folder on a non-zelink thread in over 3 months.
Come on keep dumping you bought a pass like a good cuckold
>you bought a pass like a good cuckold
you were posting concept art every 30 seconds yesterday, meaning you have a pass too.
exposed btw
Where's the image dump don't let me scare you ZeLinkcuck
damn bro are you such an attention whore that you'd post childhood photos of yourself to prove that you're not a botwtard?
That's not even him in the first pic kek that image has been floating around in threads before he even started plaguing them
how fucking blind are you that you cant tell its the same 2 kids?
I gave away my families nintendo and every game except zelda (I thought it was 'earth of the matrix'.... don't fucking ask). you're not a schizo
oh, I gave it away for $80AUD to buy drugs btw
those are the same 2 carts ive had since 1999-2000. You can see MM is extremely fucked up. Would be surprised if it still worked.
you should buy a lot of drugs, cart damage aside, it's still fetches a high price as real hardware and ultimately means nothing as a piece of ancient hardware.
>you should buy a lot of drugs
I have a book collection worth $25,000 sitting in my closet.
start with weed and work your way to back alley anything, it's well worth it
What the fuck is happening
ZeLinkfag having yet another schizophrenic episode
>I called a secondary
>posts irrefutable proof I'm not a secondary
but somehow I'm the bad guy.
what is happening rn fr
What I'm wondering is how mods just turn a blind eye to your ass every time you derail threads. The 4chin lass bux can't be that damn good.
OP here. Whats going on.
Now he's larp blogposting.
"Happy Bday OOT. Please subscribe to NSO to play it today."
Im jk theyll totally shadowdrop a completely new remaster
You could be posting cute images instead of arguing
Not just Zelink either
It goes without saying I literally cannot post any images of anything or the schizoid will retaliatory spam.
while the most autistic Zelda fags this webside has to offer are still gathered in this thread, can someone explain to me why Ganondorf has the Triforce of power in TP despite Link getting send back in time before Ganondorf could reach it? Also to which timeframe did Zelda send him exactly?
Aonuma and Miyamoto most certainly didn't think about it. But when Link was sent back, he kept the Triforce of Courage (remains to be seen whether he lost it in Majora's Mask or not). And the Triforce fractured in the child timeline and the pieces went straight to Ganon and Zelda respectively.
my personal headcanon (because it was never confirmed) is that Link lost the triforce of courage. In OOT, the triforce of courage shields Link from dark magic against ganondorf, and also heals him to full health when it resonates in the final battle. He is then shown with it clearly in the final scene. It is never shown again in majora's mask and he is affected by Majora's dark magic and basically it fucks off entirely. Maybe they just forgot about it.
Ganondorf is working forwards from a point of reference of what has happened in any universe, he's working to undo the world and become it's ruler by unlocking the secrets of the possibilities of time.
Zelda sending link back like in OoT after banashing Ganon, and in TP is like a central bank bailout. It works, it bides time, but nothing can undo the damage.
Link in TP is dark link from OoT, and both links are the same entity. Ganon got the triforce of power by being taught how to open the temple of time by OoT link
AI post
turing test me homosexual
what this anon said
my theory is ganon got the triforce of power after link was sent back because of the paradox (or maybe because the Triforce is such a divine object it exists outside the rules of time and space) and when Ganondorf was to be executed, the hatred in his dying moments awakened the dormant triforce, or, my theory at the time, he became 'worthy' through sheer resilience and willpower of wielding it by grasping to life even during his own execution
the actual answer from nintendo is something more like "we don't know, the gods are wacky and we thought it would look cool"
the key words are omnipotent and omniscient.
The triforce is not inherited by blood. Wisdom does not go to Zelda's children because she had babies. It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
>It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
No it doesn’t, otherwise it would teleport into all Links and all Zeldas when to why were on the verge of death
The pieces were passed down via bloodline
>otherwise it would teleport into all Links and all Zeldas when to why were on the verge of death
>The pieces were passed down via bloodline
Link and Zelda never lose.
Downfall was an afterthought.
You’re still ignoring that only a handful of Links and Zeldas get Triforce pieces and that Link always needs to earn it before he can acquire it, the ONE exception is Twilight Princess Link where it’s passed down via bloodline and he has it inherently.
>Did Link's dad have the ToC?
He could have, it just remained dormant in him, like how it was dormant in TP Link until he was brought into the Twilight. He’s the only Link with explicit blood connections to a previous Link whereas every Zelda will naturally give birth to the next member of the royal family
>Only the hero and the princess may wield the triforce.
The fact that Ganondorf, a non-Hylian, is capable of using it means anyone can hold it and not just Link or Zelda (or Hylians exclusively)
Ganondorf is just as special as Zelda and Link. The curse revolves around those three. As dumb as that sounds. Anyway I rather not argue about this further. You’re entitled to your head canon. I understand your position though I really do.
It’s headcanon to insinuate the Triforce will dive into any Link or Zelda at a moments notice without reason when there’s zero indication of that occurring throughout the entire series
Don’t dismiss something with examples based on the series while peddling your own BS
>will dive into any Link or Zelda at a moments notice without reason
putting words in my argument. I did not say that one bit.
That's my last reply to you since I see you are malicious.
>I did not say that one bit.
>It decides where it wants to go itself. It can magically teleport into people.
Which is wrong and based on nothing
>It can magically teleport into people.
vs
>will dive into any Link or Zelda at a moments notice without reason
Like I said, malicious AND stupid.
Why would it teleport into them? Because they’re the protagonists and the plot demands it? That’s not what happens, there’s always a reason with every Link except one earning it through trials.
This is not worth discussing with you, as I have previously said, you just made stuff up and tried to alter what I said maliciously. Enjoy arguing with yourself now.
More like you don’t have any examples and are trying to weasel out of it
should I spoon feed you?
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The triforce is omnipotent and omniscient. It can decide where it wants to go on a moments wim. This is evidenced by how Zelda obtained the triforce of wisdom in the child timeline.
If it can leave at any point why the fuck would it stick around for when Ganondorf took it in ALTTP
>This is evidenced by how Zelda obtained the triforce of wisdom in the child timeline.
OoT Zelda obtained the ToW as an indirect result of Link returning with his piece, it didn’t just decide “okay time to go into this girl because I want to”
OoT Zelda then passed down the Triforce piece to TP Zelda and her other descendants
>why the fuck would it stick around for when Ganondorf took it in ALTTP
This is LITERALLY explained in ALTTPs ending.
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The Triforce doesn't have complete dominance over itself. It is still a tool to be used.
>The Triforce doesn't have complete dominance over itself.
Right, so it’s not going to eject itself from someone’s body or transport itself into them willy-nilly
I mean it decides where it wants to go. See the guy above. If it has decided you earned the right to wield it anyway.
>It can magically teleport into people
It literally only happens in OoT, and only because Ganondorf, the dumb motherfucker, touched it. Since his heart was "unbalanced" he could not make his wish and the Triforce deemed him unworthy and split apart. Of course, that at that moment the Triforce itself chose the owners for the remaining pieces. But it's clear that from OoT ownards, in all three timelines, the Triforce of Wisdom became a symbol of the Royal Family, which makes sense as it is passed through Zelda's bloodline.
Wind Waker Zelda has it. Why? Because her ancestors did.
Twilight Princess Zelda has it. Why? Same reason. Her ancestors had it.
Same applies to most Zeldas throughout the Downfall Timeline.
So, yes, while the Triforce itself can choose who will get to own its individual pieces as far as I recall, it has only happened once in the franchise, and only because Ganondorf was a brute fuck with an unbalanced heart/soul.
Most sane reply yet.
Anyway, this makes me wonder, why does BOTW Zelda have the full triforce now? Guess the sacred realm got nuked at one point and it's just hiding there.
"ancestors having the triforce" is a lie told to link, the royal family does what it wants when it wants.
Zelda is not so innocent and link is both a problem and solution, link is used by ganon endlessly, the royal family is fucked unless they use link to defeat ganon again and again, they lie to link constantly
Also, in most games where the Triforce of Courage shows up, Link has to go through an unholy amount of trials and tasks to get it.
In OoT Link was only chosen by the Triforce of Courage because at that point in time he had already went through multiple tasks in order to get the Master Sword. This 8 year old had to fight a giant spider crab, a fire-breathing dinossaur and after getting eaten by a fish, saved it from turbo magic electric cancer it had.
In WW there's a whole fucking quest where Link has to gather every single piece of the artfact. And not only that, he also had to complete multiple dungeons, including the Tower of the Gods.
In LBW the Triforce of Courage is only granted to him right at the end of his adventure, after he has already went through most of the game's dungeons.
And then you have TP Link, sticking out like a sore thumb, because he never had to endure any trials. He just happens to have the artfact within him the whole time, and doesn't even knows it. It has literally just been laying dorment within him without him realizing it. Which is consistent with Skyward Sword, where the essence of the Triforce just hangs within SS Link for a while, prior to him getting the actual artfact.
Never once did I say you didn't have to earn the ToC. I said that it can teleport into people (namely heroes and princesses)
>Never once did I say you didn't have to earn the ToC
I did not say you did.
>I said that it can teleport into people
It can, but has only happened twice. Not only OoT, but in the Oracle games as well, oddly enough, I had forgotten about them.
So yes, TP Link having the Triforce of Courage without going under any sort of trial, sticks out. Which again, gives validity to the claim that he might have got it from OoT Link through bloodline.
>where the Triforce of Courage shows up, Link has to go through an unholy amount of trials and tasks to get it.
by the royal family's design, and they know when to hit the trigger and they have to stop ganondorf again by telling link how to get it. It's an arms race that the royal family define by acting as keeper to the triforce, ganon often is the keeper of the triforce in the twilight realm, the royal family having already lost.
>WW link is triforce is shattered
the royal family got that anal about keeping it from ganon that they broke it, the world is very far in the future, WW ganon is the one of if not the most powerful and knowledgeable ganons.
>TP Link
yes, ganon is keeper to the triforce. When ganon has the triforce, link has the triforce. ganon always/often has the triforce in 'his' realm
>by the royal family's design
Wrong. Trials in OoT are not designed by the Royal Family, they were designed by the circustances caused by Ganondorf's actions (which happens to be the case in most games), such as Ganondorf cursing the Deku Tree and Jabu Jabu, or closing Dodongo's cavern with a rock. Link was only deemed worthy of the Triforce of Courage here because of his deeds prior to him getting the Master Sword.
Similarly, trials in Wind Waker were not designed by the Royal Family (as most of them don't even KNOW they are royalty). They just happen to be old temples that have now been invaded with monsters sent by Ganondorf who is trying his hardest to find Princess Zelda.
In Link Between Worlds, most of those trials were most likely not planned either. Yuga just starts capturing people, seemingly at random first, and Link is just figuring out the patterns of said kidnappings. The Hylian Royal Family had no hand in this, hell, Yuga ends up capturing Zelda and Impa as well, just to summon Ganon.
You're trying to write the royal family as this machiavellian group of individuals, when in truth, in most games they are caught up by surprise just as much as anyone else. Just take LttP as an example. Agahnim literally shows up, mindwashes the entire army and kills the fucking king.
>Ganon often is the keeper of the triforce
Ganondorf keeps his piece because he doesn't fucking die. The Triforce of Power grants him near immortality as seen in Twilight Princess. He can only be killed for good if the Triforce leaves his body. Which is what happens in Wind Waker and Twilight Princess itself. Hell, he even says so himself in Ocarina of Time, that he will remain alive as long as the Triforce of Power remains within him.
That being said, Ganondorf more often than not, doesn't get the Triforce of Power just for existing. He did not have in FSA and instead had to resort to the Trident. In Zelda 1, he had to steal the ToP for himself after destroying the kingdom.
>they were designed by the circustances caused by Ganondorf's actions (which happens to be the case in most games), such as Ganondorf cursing the Deku Tree and Jabu Jabu, or closing Dodongo's cavern with a rock
right, so I don't have the balls to defeat your argument because I can't even spell Dodrongo and well you actually remember details of the game right
>Ganondorf keeps his piece because he doesn't fucking die.
Ganon keeps his piece when or maybe due to the fact that he's in the twilight realm at any point in time. He does not keep his piece or loses his peice or is reborn without a piece - while retaining all or some of his knowledge - when he returns to the light world.
>repeatedly makes me out to be an idiot
fuck you. most of your lore is based on what the royal family have said to link. link's understanding is a liability
>right, so I don't have the balls to defeat your argument because I can't even spell Dodrongo and well you actually remember details of the game right
Fair enough
>Ganon keeps his piece when or maybe due to the fact that he's in the twilight realm at any point in time
What? He was only the Twilight Realm in well, Twilight Princess. He literally dies after losing the Triforce of Power in this very same game. As I have said, the Triforce of Power grants him near immortality, which is why he didn't die in OoT for example, even after Link stabbed him through the head. As long as he doesn't die, the Triforce won't leave his body and as long as the Triforce doesn't leave his body, he won't die. Which is why is so hard to kill him. Hell, Link only manages to kill him in Twilight Princess, because he is susceptible to holy weaponry and the Sage's Sword tore a big weakspot through his chest, even if it didn't kill him outright.
>repeatedly makes me out to be an idiot
I did not such thing, and never have I said you were an idiot.
>most of your lore is based on what the royal family have said to link
It's not "my lore". It is what the games show. On screen.
>the royal family got that anal about keeping it from ganon that they broke it
No, they did not. At the end of Ocarina of Time, Zelda sends Link back in time.
So, here's the thing. At this point there are already two timelines, one in the future, where Zelda is now sending Link back in the past. In this timeline, the Triforce has split. Ganondorf is holding on to his piece, the Triforce of Power. Zelda similarly has her own piece, the Triforce of Wisdom. And Link, likewise, is the bearer of the Triforce of Courage. But Zelda, decides to send Link back in the past, spawning a new timeline. This, causes the Triforce of Courage in off itself to shatter. It was intended to happen by the Royal Family, and the King of Hyrule makes that very clear in game that it was an unforeseen consequence of the Hero of Time "leaving Hyrule".
>the world is very far in the future
Wind Waker happens roughly at the same time as Twilight Princess.
>WW ganon is the one of if not the most powerful and knowledgeable ganons.
WW Ganon is not that powerful. Knowledgeable? Possibly.
>yes, ganon is keeper to the triforce
As I already said, Ganon isn't a keeper. He just hang on the Triforce's Power to make him immortal.
>When ganon has the triforce, link has the triforce
Not the truth. Link didn't have the Triforce in Link Between Worlds. He didn't have the Triforce in Link to the Past. In both of those games, he had to EARN it. In LttP he literally has to defeat Ganon in order to get it.
>ganon always/often has the triforce in 'his' realm
What do you mean by "realm". You mean the room inside the Pyramid? If so, that was the Full Triforce, he most likely couldn't have it inside his own body.
>detailing the most braindead simple lore to me
you are genuinely a fucking asshole
>Ganon isn't a keeper.
he is in the twilight realm.
>what do you mean "realm"
the dark world, as dark link and even dark ganon if you like, in dark world ganon has the triforce, until it's taken from him and he's reborn in light, where he uses his knowledge to take it again, sometimes by using link or the link entity's knowledge, which would explain why the royal family tells link nothing.
I don’t understand how you can play these games and come out with these completely wild interpretations of the lore that have barely any actual basis in there games themselves
>detailing the most braindead simple lore to me
It is "simple" but it feels obligatory for me to talk about it, as it is important to the matter we are discussing. I did not do it to insult you, or your intellect.
>you are genuinely a fucking asshole
Now that's uncalled for. It is fine tho.
>the dark world
As in LttP's Dark World? FSA's Dark World? LBW's Lorule? TP's Twilight Realm? What "Dark World" are we talking about?
>he's reborn in light
What exactly do you mean by this? As in Ganondorf reincarnating?
Demise is a husk controlled by Ghirahim who is a Ganondorf of Ganon.
all dark worlds are the dark world. all light worlds are the light world. there are always both.
let me rephrase:
in the dark worlds of the dark realm, as dark link and even dark ganon if you like, ganon has the triforce, until it's taken from him and he's reborn in a light world of the light realm, where he uses his knowledge to take it again, sometimes by using link or the link entity's knowledge, which would explain why the royal family tells link nothing.
only one of the links awakening between dark and light can have the triforce at any point in time, usually dark link is just asleep/adrift. The twilight realm is a living dream, the void world of TP is an extension of the dream, not entering the twilight realm in any way, always there.
When Link goes back in OoT, he keeps his Triforce of Courage which has the unintended side effect of splitting the Triforce in the newly created Child Timeline. As a result Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf get their individual pieces which Ganondorf is unaware of until he survives being executed by the Sages. Link and Zelda pass down their pieces to their descendants being TP Link and TP Zelda respectively
>Link and Zelda pass down their pieces to their descendants being TP Link and TP Zelda respectively
The Triforce is not passed through blood. I'm telling you. This is such a common misconception.
In Wind Waker Zelda literally had it passed down to her through a necklace. In essence, the Triforce just goes wherever the fuck it wants.
Just because Zelda has bob for a son doesn't mean it's going to him.
>The Triforce is not passed through blood
It is in this instance
It makes literally no sense.
Sorry dude. TP takes place several hundred years after OOT. (always incorrectly translated to be 100 years). Did Link's dad have the ToC?
Of course he didn't.
Only the hero and the princess may wield the triforce.
Baby Sneed will rise from the dead
>some game was release 25, 30, 35, 40 years ago!!! We have to do something special on the anniversary date!!!!!!
Anyone else have the Nintendo Power guide? I had it as a kid and remember poring over every piece of art and other stuff in the guide. It was totally different from other NP guides, with an absolute ton of art and some lore thrown in there. I bought a copy a few years back and it still holds up, although 3rd person narrative (in the guide sections at least) is a bit awkward if you're using it as a straight up guide and was an...interesting choice when they wrote the thing
I can't believe anons are actually taking what this fucking idiot says seriously. He thinks the mangas are canon.
The mangas are not canon.
They are better characterized than the games though, as they should be. TP manga is miles better than the game for instance.
>TP manga is miles better than the game for instance.
No, it's even worse.
The virgin TP manga Gorons
>Mining for fertiliser is le bad!
vs the chad canon Gorons
>We Gorons live on a diet of rocks... And the most delicious and nutritious rocks around are found in the Dodongo's Cavern! But that seems like ancient history now... We've become such gourmets that we can't stand to eat rocks from anywhere else!
Not that you would know but glad to see I finally put that through your thick skull that they're not canon.
>I finally put that through your thick skull that they're not canon.
I honestly never said they are canon... Don't you know that? I do like them a lot. A lot of people dislike them for their own reasons but I do enjoy Zelda manga. Ishinori ALTTP manga + OOT are all time favorites. The Majora's Mask manga was far too short however.
No
I'll settle the Triforce thing because ZeLink secondary has no idea what the fuck he's talking about when it comes to canon lore. When the Hero of Time was sent back in time, he was still in possession of his piece so when Zelda sent him back, the future piece shattered. Once the Hero of Time arrived in a new timeline, the Triforce split there as well, like a magnetic pull. The Triforce of Courage in that timeline filled the mark that was left on him from the future, causing the remaining pieces to split as well, as the Triforce was no longer whole with just 2 pieces. The Triforce pieces resonate and respond to each other, so when the Hero of Twilight was drug through a curtain of Twilight, his piece which was passed down by the Hero of Time, began to resonate just as Ganondorf's did during the failed execution. They don't follow every single Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf because WW Link had to put the Hero of Time's back together and they don't make the wielders immortal, just difficult to kill. Otherwise, TP Link wouldn't have fucking ended Ganondorf at the end of the game nor would the Hero of Light slay Ganon with the full fucking thing. Never listen to this fucking idiot regarding lore, he's a BotW secondary and a larper.
this is exactly what I said here but yours is a word salad.
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That is not what you said, hours is just complaining that you don't like the official explanation and that your headcanon is better, as always with you. Shut the fuck up, don't speak unless spoken to like a good retard.
Funny because someone else agreed with me. that makes you the minority. Just like you are in real life scum.
I don't care if some other fucking idiot agreed with you, you little toad. That doesn't make your blatant larp bullshit correct now sit down, and shut the fuck up like I told you if you're going to be here. The people who actually play the games are talking, not fucking fanart dumping artists.
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you may not like it, but I actually grew up in the 90s with Zelda, and you didn't.
I'm not reading that, shut the fuck up. You're not worth the effort for my fingers to type.
link did not have the triforce of courage after the events of OoT
Zelda is preventing link from understanding light and dark because he will reveal it to Ganondorf by accident.
The royal family is doing everything they can to prevent the link entity, like a struggling mass of flesh in a womb from finding out how it can step forwards against ganon, when every step forwards is only teaching ganon how to gain more control
>AIposting
thread is done anyway, peace out.
yeah? enjoy your time with the AI dude
you literally have a fully moddable PC port of OOT what more could you possibly want?
The PC port is a dream come true. If anything, I'd love more beta stuff to be found, that stuff is endlessly fascinating to me. I remember reading Nintendo Power before the game came out and poring over any beta screenshots they had.
The big leak was amazing just seeing the beta lake and where the house in that screenshot was suppose to be was great
>still no Zelda Maker
not fully moddable yet, but in time hopefully.
>what more could you possibly want?
HD models and textures that accurate capture the artstyle shown in the manuals
Even if a remake comes out and sucks we can still use the assets with the port
The only reason Zelinkfag is this anal about the Triforce not being blood related is because it goes against his headcanon that every Link gets with Zelda, since both the Courage and Wisdom pieces would’ve been passed down instead of just one if OoT Link and Zelda actually got together.
>I’ve been discussing the game leaving in depth responses
>one retard screaming at me stop derailing the thread hasn’t left one real post on the entire thread
Why do I keep taking the bait fuck I’m stupid.
literally nothing you have ever said has been of any consequence
shut the fuck up
You've been feeding people your bullshit headcanons like you always do, don't act like that some sort of quality discussion.
Well YEAH my name is literally ZelinkOP and everyone on Ganker knows I love Zelink. Let me happy with my headcanons bro!
I’m just gonna stop coming to these threads where the /lozg/ schizoid lurks. Dude doesn’t even post. Just freaks the fuck out and floods it. My apologies fellas.
20 new reviews will come out and drop the metacritic score.
Tripfags are cancer.
Derail more threads you trolls.
Listen to me naggers.
Zelda, Link and Ganon are images of the 3 gods of the triforce.
The gods combined into one as they created the world.
Hyrule is being undone, while Zelda Link and Ganon are in a constant struggle to not become each other.
Zelda must not become couragous nor powerful.
Link must not become powerful or wise.
Ganon must not become couragous or wise.
Every step in the wrong direction places Hyrule into further chaos.
Except Skyward Sword introduced Demise and Hylia which messes this metaphor up.
Then explain these bitches.
Fuck your headcanon.
my. dick.
they didn't have anything to do with the triforce. they were the oracles of ages and seasons
>Symbols introduced in the Oracle games went on to appear in Wind Waker as the official crests of the Golden Goddesses
They are physical avatars dude
>Zelda must be a weak pussy
>Link must be a weak retard
>Ganon must be a retarded pussy
>Otherwise the world is fucked
This is dumb and I feel dumber having read it.
I'm denying all your nerd cards repeatedly until the end of time itself, none of you belong here on Ganker