In certain situations. When your handgun is out of ammo, and you're in a close-combat situation, it can be useful to drive a knife into an enemy's vital point. Other than that, no, they are not practical. In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
But always carry a knife. They are useful tools, and don't rely on finite ammunition. They only require periodic sharpening.
You are so unbelievably moronic man, you dont need to be a navy seal to know how speech works, its anatomy. If you cut someone's throat open you make it impossible for the air from the lungs through the larynx and epigottis to vibrate the vocal cords, ergo they cant scream. Now go c**t your throat open and tell me if im wrong you fricking mongoloid.
Not really, a well placed stab or a sharp knife will hit the jugular in one slice, from then it takes literally seconds to pass out. Go to Undocumented Reality and watch some of those videos, even better, some hanging videos. Once they kick the chair (or even just drop their legs and let their body weight take over) its seconds from being aware to done.
You have never had to kill in a military situation. It takes minutes for people to bleed to death, with a throat slit they at least won't scream, but they will roll around, grunt, spit blood and try to fight. I've seen people go for their guns and just start firing randomly in panic. Only deaths that I've seen are nearly instant from a knife is getting the knife jammed in the brain at just the right angle, but that's also incredibly hard to pull off, people scream from knives in the eye or the back of the head unless you got it just right. And a guy with a knife in the eye can, in fact, tell his friends where you are.
I made this up probably, what do I know? I'm some homosexual on the internet. Never had to stab a guy frantically as he begged for me to stop in a language I didn't understand, cutting fingers off unintentionally as he attempted to stop my knife with his hands all so he'd just shut the frick up. Nope, couldn't be me.
This is so wrong its unreal. Go look up any real cartel beheading and the screaming and movement stops at most, 20 seconds into it as long as they hit the jugular. In a military situation its about efficiency, they wont want to slowly behead someone with a pencil to make them suffer.
>HERKA DERKA OH HURRRR YOU CAN LIKE, KILL SOMEONE WITHIN 20 SECONDS WHEN THEY ARE BOUND AND ON THE FLOOR AND CAPTURED DUHHH
This is your brain at work anon, sad!
Even that will have them bleeding out and gurgling due to vocal cords, anon. It's not like movies where you just slide it across and bleed out silently.
Even cutting a cartoid artery will have a... forgetting exactly... 2 min? 5 min? bleed out time before actual death starts.
Less. 30 seconds before the amount of blood the panicking heart pushes out so much that the bleeding is just a slow drain. Go watch some beheading videos. When done properly, they're out in 5-10 and the blood flow starts slows by 20 seconds. I literally watch gore and sub to a sub only gore website and see it every fricking day. All of you who say beheading are loud are wrong. Its the initial panic of people who have been captured when they realize its over which is loud, the act of killing is quick and silent.
You're not beheading anybody with that fricking knife, it's gonna be stab wounds and mayhem unless the guy really gets a clean hand over the mouth or neck and makes a huge deal about silencing the person he's trying to kill. Like if you don't have all the time in the world to really babysit the murder, you're going to have a human body trying its hardest to live. Those dudes getting beheaded die quickly because they want it to be over as fast as possible so they submit to the killing, and even then they'll still sometimes start involuntarily breakdancing in the sand because they can't control their instinct to not die
>Even cutting a cartoid artery will have a... forgetting exactly... 2 min? 5 min? bleed out time before actual death starts.
It's like you didnt even read the thread and see pic related multiple times
Knife six inches in the leg at about dick length from the groin on the inside gives you seconds at best before you go unconcious and unless you have an EMT standing next to you at the time then you're guaranteed dead
source: a decade in the meat industry, seen a few accidents
You have never had to kill in a military situation. It takes minutes for people to bleed to death, with a throat slit they at least won't scream, but they will roll around, grunt, spit blood and try to fight. I've seen people go for their guns and just start firing randomly in panic. Only deaths that I've seen are nearly instant from a knife is getting the knife jammed in the brain at just the right angle, but that's also incredibly hard to pull off, people scream from knives in the eye or the back of the head unless you got it just right. And a guy with a knife in the eye can, in fact, tell his friends where you are.
I made this up probably, what do I know? I'm some homosexual on the internet. Never had to stab a guy frantically as he begged for me to stop in a language I didn't understand, cutting fingers off unintentionally as he attempted to stop my knife with his hands all so he'd just shut the frick up. Nope, couldn't be me.
I have no military experience but I did slit the throat of a piglet and it let out some loud gargles and gasps almost sounded like a baby
High pitched vocal ability on a piglet I'd guess, a man's voice is much more muffled when their throats are slit, it's almost silent. Gargling and coughing is the loudest part. I never saw a women or child get their throats slit so I don't know how different it is, just heard men.
Stabbing someone in the back drives the breath out of them and stops them from yelling out.
Stabbing someone in the lungs or cutting their throat completely open completely removes their ability to scream.
Stabbing someone in a major artery will ensure they fall unconscious in a matter of seconds.
Tldr knife es muy sneaky
>Stabbing someone in the back drives the breath out of them and stops them from yelling out.
Christopher Lee said to Peter Jackson on the set for the final LoTR movie. Peter wanted him to go all dramatic about it and Lee told him it doesn't work like that and he wouldn't elaborate further.
I remember watching an old British commando guy talking about how the training was to stab into the throat from the side and punch the knife out forward.
We have a thread about it over on /k/ but the shopowner is going to jail for sure. The moron did an AMA about it and ran his mouth about not really feeling threatened.
That, and the fact that he headlocked the dude and prevented him from retreating so he should keep stabbing him is going to look awful in court, AND the robber survived to give testimony.
For anyone who cant see the deleted posts:
https://www.unddit.com/r/robbersgettingfricked/comments/wh5tq4/las_vegas_smoke_shop_robbing_owner_ama/
And for anyone who wants to see a different, justified stabbing (the guy was arrested for murder and then finally released after the liberal gay DA got enough pressure):
https://www.reddit.com/r/robbersgettingfricked/comments/vsbpuu/deli_owner_defends_himself_against_robber/
2 years ago
Anonymous
So is this dude fricked?
2 years ago
Anonymous
From that video, I really don't know. He stabbed him UNTIL he tried to run away, there were no stabs after the choke hold. He then dragged him away from what appears to be the back office and then ran toward it. I'm looking through the now deleted reddit AMA but if my dumb ass can find it, the ADA certainly can subpoena reddit for the originals.
>stop stabbing >adrenaline takes over and guy ignores pain long enough to pull out a weapon and injure/kill you
He used a completely appropriate amount of force tbh, there's no time for mercy in situations like this
He literally starts stabbing him after the other dude who is seemingly unarmed jumps the counter, not restraining and or disabling him. Sure he's a shitskin for robbery but that dude that stabbed him is 100% fricked, probably a white supremecy incel that wanted a reason to use his knife. If you think this is appropriate force you must live in some 3rd world shithole where this is a common occurrence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>guy tries to deprive you of your livelihood >guy endangering both you and your store, possibly making people feel unsafe to come back to it >not deserving of death
have a nice day you vile Yuro Cuck
2 years ago
Anonymous
How could you possibly know either of the dudes were unarmed? They had backpacks and loose pockets all over.
And he did subdue the guy closest to him. He stabbed the guy a few times in the back, shoulder, and thighs then held him in a choke. If the asian dude really wanted to kill he would've went for the skull/throat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>using a lethal weapon is ok on an unarmed person, especially multiple times >i-its self defence, he could have had a gun!
2 years ago
Anonymous
t. terminally online that would have gotten beat up, robbed and possibly killed in that situation
2 years ago
Anonymous
If i was a responsible shop owner I sure as frick wouldnt have a knife at the register I'd have a 12 gauge and the minute any shitskin tried, you better believe I'd pull it out. If they pushed after...well they wouldn't be doing it for very long.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop moving the goalposts. The shop owner was clearly trying to disable the guy and not kill him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
YOU are the exact kind of moral coward the human race would have killed off generations ago before 'civilisation' and modern western tolerance allowed cancerous parasites like you to stay alive.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go rob a store jamal, tell me how it goes for you. Oh right you're just some pussy on the internet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i'm not a criminal peice of filth. cry more about how lethal force is somehow bad. you homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>who is seemingly unarmed jumps the counter
How can you be sure he is unarmed? Should the guy being robbed ask nicely, 'hey bro, are you armed' before defending himself? Why should he put his life on the line like that? >that dude that stabbed him is 100% fricked
Not even discussing this, self-defense laws are moronic. Just saying the robber got what was coming to him. >probably a white supremecy incel
He's a chink. >you must live in some 3rd world shithole where this is a common occurrence.
Like America?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The initial stabbing was justified. What was NOT justified in ANY state is pulling the guy back after he tries to flee and driving a knife between his shoulder blades. Even if he hadn't talked about not feeling threatened on reddit, this footage wont play well with a Jury.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>allowing subhuman scum to run off and recuperate, perhaps returning to do you harm with their friends, or to go on to rob other places
disgusting
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I agree, but thats the price you pay for free self defense in the free states in the US.
This is also why you use a gun and not a knife. If he had pulled a pistol and magdumped in the guys face, its over in an instant and completely justified. It also prevents the robber from surviving and suing you later.
Knives are terrible self defense weapons for this very reason. Theres really no way to defend yourself with a knife that doesnt turn into something like this where you get put in Jail.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What will be the prosecution's case for locking him up though?
>My client hopped the counter in an aggressive manner was possibly armed and actually tried to fight back until the defendant started stabbing him in self defense but still spared his life
Genuine question, I'm not American.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The argument is going to be, and always in in self defense cases in America, that you only act to stop the threat. It's just that with firearms, stopping the threat and killing the attacker occur at almost the exact same time.
In this case, the threat is gone when the robber turned away and tried to jump over the counter. The shop owner grabbed him, pulled him back toward himself and re-started the conflict with a stab in the back.
The prosecutors are going to replay that moment over and over for the jury and emphasize that the robber attempted to flee from the conflict. At that point, you are no longer in your right as a citizen to escalate that situation unless you can prove that you feared for the life of a third party, which clearly doesn't exist here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would still make the case that if the robber hopped over the counter he could easily pull out a gun and turn on you, no? Or are you not allowed to do anything at all unless they're literally in your face?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You need to prove that he was armed, which by all accounts he wasn't. If he had pulled a gun on the shop keeper and jumped the counter, thats a completely different story, yank him down and kill him and your justified. When guns come out then all bets are off, you do what you need to do. If he's unarmed, you can stab him until he backs off and runs away.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that anon, but deadly force is only legally viable when you yourself are directly faced with it, or you have a reasonable fear that the other party themselves have intent to, or the means to kill, or otherwise harm you. That said, that last stab in the back/base of neck is going to frick him up in court.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you have a reasonable fear that the other party themselves have intent to, or the means to kill, or otherwise harm you
And being robbed isn't? Even if they weren't armed (which you have no way of knowing) they could still beat you to death
2 years ago
Anonymous
The burden of proof is on you. If it wasn't then you could just go and murder anyone and the defense could be "I thought they had a gun"
2 years ago
Anonymous
A group of people in masks coming to your store and robbing your shit isn't "anyone", you disingenuous bastard
2 years ago
Anonymous
apples and oranges. not just anyone is wearing a mask to conceal their identity and attempting to forcibly steal your property and advancing towards you while you're distracted, which is an activity often accompanied by having weapons. But yeah that's totally the same as a random guy on the street
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, I'm not talking about shit I personally believe, Im telling you how courts are looking at this. Thats why pretending to have a gun by pointing your finger under your shirt is a different shirt is still a crime, it's just separate from actually pointing a gun at someone.
What the shop keeper did was morally justified, but it was brutal and not going to fly in court.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you're talking about in the USA, in an American criminal court, you are fricking wrong. A defendant cannot be compelled to testify. A defendant does not have to testify in their defense because then the prosecutor can cross examine. It is 100% on the DA to prove their case, all the defense needs is reasonable doubt, which is why Casey Anthony was found not guilty of everything besides misdemeanors and OJ was found not guilty even though he testified; there was reasonable doubt even though both were clearly guilty as sin.
I am too drunk to read through your entire response thing but if you are talking about civil court, you are correct in some jurisdictions, but incorrect in all cases of criminal court (in the USA, I know Europe is fricking moronic with self defense)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Robbed by what exactly? If you are going to walk around and look like a robber, why wouldn't you walk in and immediately pull out your gun, if you had it? People in court are going to look at this and try the same thing you are doing, "well he could have had a gun", but the fact is the initial stabbings were fair game as they were used to subdue an individual who you believe intends to do you harm. Now here's where that actually becomes invalid though, the moron went on reddit to brag and said "he didn't feel threatened" and then later deleted his posts, which completely throws out the "fear of harm" and im sure thats what his lawyer said. But the most damning thing is pulling the guy back and then stabbing him in the back as he is obviously trying to get away himself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You Euros really need to shut the frick up about the USA and our laws. I know you're jealous because Travelers and nigs have more rights than you, but jesus chill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_John_Ward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir_Hussain_case
Rent free
2 years ago
Anonymous
>wikipedia as a credible source
Man, education did wonders on you.
All Euro news sources, although I know nothing about their politics since Al-Jazeera is the only Euro news source I bother to ever read
2 years ago
Anonymous
if that were the case, wouldn't it be far more efficient to kill you first, then take your shit off the body?
2 years ago
Anonymous
try >muh client was a gud boi he dindu nuffin, he was werkin dem jawb program, he was going to see if the clerk was injured or too scared and was just trying to calm him down. but this WHITE SUPREMACIST EVIL RACIST MURDER TRASH SCUM, tried a totally unprovoked hate crime to genocide those poor black bois.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What would suck to realize as a juror is with a gun you probably dont have to shoot a fleeing person because you can instantly use deadly force if the attack resumes, but with a knife you have to kill or incapacitate the attacker because he could pull a gun after escaping you.
I don't think I would keep stabbing the guy. But I couldn't hang someone who did either.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Aaah yes of course...the shopkeeper is a hardcore white supremacist named Johnny Nguyen...what a WHITE name....cant get any WHITER than this
2 years ago
Anonymous
>still doing this on foot >not just offline raiding them with a car
2 years ago
Anonymous
Glow harder Black person holy frick lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
probably not a glowie, but an ebonics enthusiast who wants people to feel weak and powerless and think they're not allowed to do anything to stop him when HE goes and does something MUH REPARATIONS REEE
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fact is he DID stop and subdue him, but continued to stab him when he tried to run away. That is not justified and he will be crucified with assault with a deadly weapon maybe even attempted murder.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well if he doesnt get charged in criminal court then he's going to have a hell of a civil lawsuit to deal with.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Any reasonable jury will find those last two stabs as completely justifiable, given that the guy didnt know if the other could produce a weapon as a final "frick you"
2 years ago
Anonymous
The rule of law is dead, princess. Grow up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're right. I also remember when this man was found guilty of self defense in a situation in which it was clearly self defense.
Anon it doesnt work like that in the US. Assuming someone COULD have a weapon is not justification to continue to escalate a deadly confrontation after the attacker tries to flee.
I live in the USA, and yes it does. Believing yourself to be in mortal peril is absolutely a defense. Maybe not if you live in Cali or NY but everywhere else it is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>guilty of self defense
I need to fricking sleep holy shit why do I stay up so late with you morons
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just remember, the police are your enemy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Last time I got pulled over, I was going 55 in a 35 (it was a wide road and everyone does it). I hadnt slept, and because of my red eyes, the cop called two more, asked permission to search it for drugs (was given it) and found nothing. He apologized and didnt ticket me for speeding. The police ARE my friend because I literally know most of them in my town on a first name basis, and because I dont do bad shit (except smoking weed like every other month, but its legal in my state).
>final "frick you"
When you are going through hypovolemic shock i really really doubt your first thought is "well im gonna take this fricker with me". Stop with your anime memes.
Go to any gore site. MMC and WPD alone showed me countless videos where people shot or stabbed in vital areas could walk for hundred of feet before the adrenaline wears off.
You realize he literally said he didn't feel threatened in the reddit thread? There was no peril after he (the robber) tried to get away.
I know, which is why I hope its fake. I think its justified but his "I dont give a shit" position could invalidate any sense of self defense and land him in jail for like 15 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You had your time wasted by the police for something that shouldn't even be illegal, and you're calling them your friend.
I shouldn't even respond to you.
You're a homosexual, shut up Black person.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because I had bright red eyes and was speeding, which is a legit reason to suspect someone of being high. Frick you, you call me a Black person? You're the one afraid of them so you're either a black or a poor white, either way, a Black person. Or a foreigner in which case I dont care about you, go back to /k/ with your anime rifle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
tl;dr b***h shut up Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
beta cringe homosexual
didn't ask
don't care
didn't read
shut up Black person
tldr I'm drunk and still danced on your poor minority MAGA ass. You know nothing about US laws on self defense because you choose to be ignorant. Like a black. Shut the frick up. I bet you think CPS is a cult to rape kids too, huh, you broke ass inner city fricking pieces of low class shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
cry about it
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm laughing. I owned two kids on the forum and I'm laughing, Murray.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Posts weeb shit >I'm drunk
Black person I doubt you're even old enough to post on here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes. I'm 32 and will post all sorts of shit I want. Frick you. Seethe at the glory of the right to self defense we have here that you don't. I've been to London, Paris, Malmo, Copenhagen and Stockholm, you're more nig infested than NYC and you cant even defend yourself. Die mad >hurr arent you old
Yes. And I'm here because TOTSE died and Zoklet sucks.
have a nice day
No 😀
2 years ago
Anonymous
lowest iq homosexual to ever psot on Ganker tell me who you are i will put you down like the rabid dog you are you filthy Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>32 >Weeb
You are so unbelievably pathetic, it's unreal. I bet you have one of those pillows you call a "waifu" and frick it every night you kissless virgin, go die in a fricking ditch you pussy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope, just a cat. Don't be mad at oldgay energy. It's okay. Seethe. Just go to sleep and be mad, my little Euro friend. And yeah I'm a weeb, for Gundam and mecha but I know how much anime girls make you frickers mad so I have a whole folder of it just for you my little snookums :3
2 years ago
Anonymous
>asiatic
Filthy ironic weeb.
2 years ago
Anonymous
All rook same but here, fine, a Jap one. I know you just wanted to bump your shit EU thread and I'm to clap back
2 years ago
Anonymous
>schizo too
No, just saw a filthy ironic weeb posting asiatic and had to inform you of your larping. Now take your meds.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what no b***hes does to a larping motherfricker
You do realize I'm having more fun drinking, shitposting, and playing LASER BEAM with my cat that talking to you is immaterial. "All I Want For Christmas" by Mariah Carey came on and I danced around the room with a laser pointer while smiling, knowing I make you upset with Every Breath I Take (which will be the next song I listen to)
😀
2 years ago
Anonymous
nta but having so much fun youre sitting around waiting for replies to play the "last laugh" game like a teenager
2 years ago
Anonymous
what are you doing here normalgay-kun
you must be really lonely if you come to an anime website to pick fights with anime fans
2 years ago
Anonymous
Go back to r*ddit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Damn, did I act like this when I was drunk? Jesus fricking christ how horrifying.
2 years ago
Anonymous
have a nice day
2 years ago
Anonymous
beta cringe homosexual
didn't ask
don't care
didn't read
shut up Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
You realize he literally said he didn't feel threatened in the reddit thread? There was no peril after he (the robber) tried to get away.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon it doesnt work like that in the US. Assuming someone COULD have a weapon is not justification to continue to escalate a deadly confrontation after the attacker tries to flee.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>pulls a phone from his pocket in front of the police
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cops are a different class here. It sucks and most of us hate it but they get to follow different rules.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>final "frick you"
When you are going through hypovolemic shock i really really doubt your first thought is "well im gonna take this fricker with me". Stop with your anime memes.
And Australia. Better pray no one tries to rob your house because the law apparently prefers the homeowners dead than the invaders incapacitated in any fashion.
What made me kinda sad was when he (I think) called out "Bobby" to his friend. Doesn't make me too sad though. Mostly concerned the shopkeeper might go to jail :(.
robbers are dumb fricks but hearing that guy sadly declare "I'm dead..." really made me feel sad
>Victims take several minutes to bleed out
They all lived and have been arrested
We have a thread about it over on /k/ but the shopowner is going to jail for sure. The moron did an AMA about it and ran his mouth about not really feeling threatened.
That, and the fact that he headlocked the dude and prevented him from retreating so he should keep stabbing him is going to look awful in court, AND the robber survived to give testimony.
This makes me happy about the "no charges" but it took months for Zimmerman to be charged. This doesn't mean he's off the hook completely and I hope that moronic Reddit AMA was fake. Also took months for these three (they killed the black jogger) to be charged. Fun fact about that one, the only reason they were charged was because the lawyer for the third guy released it thinking it would turn public opinion in his client's favor.
>killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
So this is a lie?
I spent enough time watching beheading videos to tell you that outside of the cries for mercy from people knowing they're about to be executed, once the blade slips in its all over. You're a fricking LARPing moron
You would need to swap the right and left then. I did Adderall for a week and I ate like 4 bagels and a jug of OJ the entire time. Meth is like 100x worse
[...]
is that actually her? I so then I KNEW she was a fat ugly dyke just from hearing her fat ugly dyke voice
I spent enough time watching beheading videos to tell you that outside of the cries for mercy from people knowing they're about to be executed, once the blade slips in its all over. You're a fricking LARPing moron
is that actually her? I so then I KNEW she was a fat ugly dyke just from hearing her fat ugly dyke voice
>In certain situations. When your handgun is out of ammo, and you're in a close-combat situation, it can be useful to drive a knife into an enemy's vital point. Other than that, no, they are not practical. In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
But always carry a knife. They are useful tools, and don't rely on finite ammunition. They only require periodic sharpening.
Unless you're ready to shoot it's literally faster to just run up and shank a guy
In certain situations. When your handgun is out of ammo, and you're in a close-combat situation, it can be useful to drive a knife into an enemy's vital point. Other than that, no, they are not practical. In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
But always carry a knife. They are useful tools, and don't rely on finite ammunition. They only require periodic sharpening.
>In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
Knife attacks incur multiple stabbings, sometimes dozens of times. The chances of hitting a vital organ or artery go up the more you do it obviously, in which case you'll be dead as quick as a minute
Exactly, he carves the grip so he can fit the knife handle in and still hold the gun properly, if he gets into a close quarters fight he doesn't need to unsheathe his knife
He’s so left-handed that he keeps using all his guns right-handed even after losing his right eye, which would make use of the sights difficult or impossible.
I want you to close one eye and hold out your hands in front of you like you are holding a gun and aiming it
Now i want you to realize how moronic you actually are.
>long gun
If you're talking about a gun with a SCOPE sure, but you specifically said SIGHTS which most people relate to Iron sights, which would not render it impossible to use if you were missing an eye.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In anything approaching a reasonable shooting position, no, the iron sights still don’t line up with my left eye.
I want you to close one eye and hold out your hands in front of you like you are holding a gun and aiming it
Now i want you to realize how moronic you actually are.
I own actual guns. If I hold a long gun right-handed and close my right eye, I can’t use the sights.
>long gun
If you're talking about a gun with a SCOPE sure, but you specifically said SIGHTS which most people relate to Iron sights, which would not render it impossible to use if you were missing an eye.
In anything approaching a reasonable shooting position, no, the iron sights still don’t line up with my left eye.
I can't remember, when does he get the cybernetic eye? I know that Solid used one in MGS4 , but I thought Naked Snake/BigBoss, after MGS3 (either during Portable Ops or Peacewalker or definitely by MGSV) he could actually see out of that eye with the patch on it? Either the patch itself, or he has a cybernetic eye connected to it or something? I mean he's got a fricking cybernetic hand and forearm that works better than the biological original, so the eye isn't out of the question
First off, no, Big Boss never used any cybernetic enhancements whatsoever, that was Venom that used a prosthetic arm
And second, no Big Boss never touched his eyepatch at all, he even died with it in MGS4.
It's not real but it ends up being pretty useful in VR games.
This doesn't really help you stabilize yourself. The way Snake does it also probably isn't real, but it makes more sense if you do what Snake does and carve out a big notch in the grip.
i went to uni with a sf dude (kinda nutty and incelly constantly b***hed about women fricking up military)
but from what he told me, he used his knife for utility/tool rather than a weapon. told me he was taught to use hand to hand combat to get to the closest gun rather than to kill.
I play quite a bit of VR and it is very useful there. Sometimes things can be too close for a gun to be the fastest way to react. The knife acts as defence while the gun as offence. It is good for fast cqc encounters or putting distance between you and the enemy
Are you a fricking moron. I say that I play VR, I am not trying to larp as some professional killer. Its just what I have experienced in games where you actually have to move your body instead of pushing buttons. My conclusion for playing such games is that knife and pistol isn't a bad strategy.
I can buy that a knife serves you better at close range, but unless you're inside a building or something, you shouldn't be letting anyone close in the first place.
That's the point of firearms, to kill the guy when he's standing way over there.
I did this all the time in the hallway of my house with my sister when we were little. Called it playing spiderman. Pissed mom off because we kept falling and not getting hurt and also getting footprints all over the walls.
It's pretty easy when you're like a 40lb child but I can't see an adult man in full combat gear staying there for even a single second if he can get into that position in the first place. Weight and gravity beats out friction real fricking easy no matter how hard you press your feet against the wall, and that's not really a leg position that lets you apply a lot of force.
In theory, yes. If an enemy got the jump on you and you were grappling with them, they could possibly disable your handgun, making the knife useful if it were already deployed. Additionally, having both weapons out at once forces your opponent to have to deal with both of them simultaneously, which is a lot more difficult than simply grabbing your handgun with both hands and disabling or taking it away from you.
Want to see under a door? You're going to have to use a moronic little drone. Can't be using mirrors under the door like Sheriff Cletus did in New Mexico territory, circa 1879. We've forgotten how mirrors work.
Barricaded opponents? Vehicle is weapon. Ram structure. Pull it down with a hook and chain. Do something instead of creating a whole circus by running inside a likely trapped building full of armed opponents.
Why do you have to grapple up when most militaries and larger tactical units have access to armored vehicles with ladders or elevated breaching platforms on top? If you don't have that, most (at least North American) fire departments have ladder trucks. What is the fricking purpose of going spiderman up the building only to get shot the moment your hand appears in the corner of a window?
Why do you have to enter in the first place? If they don't have a hostage, why not burn them? Why don't you pull a Philadelphia Police and blow the building up? Why not IDF it with an armored bulldozer?
The equipment and tactics of the average 1990 United States SWAT team would be more effective than the moronic sci-fi le heckin inclusive bullshit in the game.
dunno but i just watched that robbery stabbing and tat shit was fricking brutal. the guy getting stabbed even quotes the counter strike doorstuck meme as hes dying
This is why I don't like knives as self defense weapons
If he had pulled a gun and shot the guy when he jumped the counter, if the robber dies, stupid games stupid prizes. Guns quickly decide an outcome and it could be the shopkeepers last chance to use it.
But to kill someone much slower by repeatedly stabbing them in the back while holding them as they attempt to flee. That's a proverbial shooting in the back. I don't know if I could convict that shop owner as a juror because fog of war, but that looked and felt so wrong.
>If he had pulled a gun and shot the guy when he jumped the counter
Really depends on the country. Here in Canada if you shoot someone for any reason, even if they are literally trying to kill you, you're going to jail.
>But then what's the point of owning a gun?
Good question.
I 100% agree with you. I'm all in for self defense, but the way he stabs him looks evil.
If he had just blew the guys head off with a shotgun I would be fine, but yeah slowly killing him it's kinda fricked up.
None of it's practical in a tumble. Just stabbing the shit out of them and hopes of hitting the right spot is the only reasonable way to get a guy using a knife
If anyone pulls a knife on you, run unless you're cornered, then fight back with everything you can, poke their eyes, bite, everything. I know you all think you can pull some my ninja way shit but there's a phrase I've heard saying "the person who wins a knife fight is the one who dies in the ambulance and not at the scene."
It is so pointless to make doing anything you could do with an empty hand harder, like reloading or grappling limbs, just to have a knife when you already have a gun out.
It doesn’t feel cool because it doesn’t seem like what a trained operative would do, it seems like something a kid does cause they think it looks cool.
I’m glad they stopped doing it in V.
Credible instructors aren't teaching it
No one in any special forces/police/security has developed a way for this to work practically
Historically the closest thing that was done was officers fighting with swords and black powder pistols, and Ghurkas with their Kukris and carbines.
It seems there really isn't a situation where this is advantageous over just using one of the weapons at a time.
it's the practical way to accidentally stab yourself in the stomach and then accidentally have a nice day in the face when you bend down to react to it.
In close range, yes.
There are combat/melee situations where you might even use your own teeth against an enemy.
Combat is a very complex situation of life and death. Holding a gun and knife like that is hardly unusual.
What's unusual is the number of americans with firearms that have still done nothing with them while their country falls deeper into the mires of sin. An acedia that could lead to millions of men, women, and children dead in the coming years. THAT is unusual.
But Solid Snake engaging in combat like a man? Well, I guess you could say he is only a fantastical videogame character.
But real men with real guns sitting on their real asses, doing nothing while enemy forces led by satan surround them—perhaps that is also absurdly fantastical.
Also don't forget cqc was developed with the help of actual military self defense experts. Many of the things you see snake do with it are actual techniques used by some specops guys.
Not him but Kojima hired some security expert or whatever (a nipponese guy) that helped them develop CQC. So it might be BS but they consulted people who know self defense at least.
Kojima is such a fricking gay. Most annoying person in the industry. At least those homosexual depressed indie devs have the decency to dissappear from public discourse after a few weeks.
>Shoot at guy >Pistol whip him if he gets too close
The knife is really unnecessary.
Only time I see the knife being handy is if you throw your gun at the dude and charge at him with a knife so you can stab and choke him at the same time.
If the mag is empty and the guy is too close, you fricking throw that paperweight at him and countercharge.
There's no way you'll ever reload fast enough with a guy 20 ft away with a weapon sprinting at you.
Personally I'd pull out my 2nd pistol, but most people wouldn't prepare like that.
I want you to realize guns arent exactly balanced so throwing one at someone is not smart or effective. These sorts of situations are exactly why keeping track of how many rounds you have left and reloading is important. If you're in a situation where the other guy has a leg up on you and is 20 ft away charging most likely you are just fricked.
why dont you frickers stab yourselves in the thigh/throat and see how long you bleed out instead of bickering?
you would be doing the world a favor doing that
/lick
It is cool, and that is all that matters.
What a moronic question. You are fricking braindead.
In certain situations. When your handgun is out of ammo, and you're in a close-combat situation, it can be useful to drive a knife into an enemy's vital point. Other than that, no, they are not practical. In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
But always carry a knife. They are useful tools, and don't rely on finite ammunition. They only require periodic sharpening.
Why do you think people cut throats, you are beyond moronic its wild.
OH YA I'm sure you know frick all about murder and stealth you navy seal larp. have a nice day.
You are so unbelievably moronic man, you dont need to be a navy seal to know how speech works, its anatomy. If you cut someone's throat open you make it impossible for the air from the lungs through the larynx and epigottis to vibrate the vocal cords, ergo they cant scream. Now go c**t your throat open and tell me if im wrong you fricking mongoloid.
You don't know what the frick you're talking about and your confidence is funny. It's like watching the town moron explain away disease with leeches.
So why can't you slit throats for quiet kills? Will they spazz out?
>absolutely no counter argument
>Y-you dont know what you're talking about!
Your fricking call of duty dream doesn't have an argument lmao, the hubris of thinking I need to invest brain cells in a moronic idea
I mean you're investing enough to reply, but still cant explain anything outside of shitposting.
>he doesn't use leeches
When Snake kills people with the knife he stabs them right in the heart moron. Actually play the game.
You'd have to saw pretty fricking deep to get the required effect
Not really, a well placed stab or a sharp knife will hit the jugular in one slice, from then it takes literally seconds to pass out. Go to Undocumented Reality and watch some of those videos, even better, some hanging videos. Once they kick the chair (or even just drop their legs and let their body weight take over) its seconds from being aware to done.
>undocumenting reality
I am drunk sorry
https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/
You so obviously have no idea what your talking about
You have never had to kill in a military situation. It takes minutes for people to bleed to death, with a throat slit they at least won't scream, but they will roll around, grunt, spit blood and try to fight. I've seen people go for their guns and just start firing randomly in panic. Only deaths that I've seen are nearly instant from a knife is getting the knife jammed in the brain at just the right angle, but that's also incredibly hard to pull off, people scream from knives in the eye or the back of the head unless you got it just right. And a guy with a knife in the eye can, in fact, tell his friends where you are.
I made this up probably, what do I know? I'm some homosexual on the internet. Never had to stab a guy frantically as he begged for me to stop in a language I didn't understand, cutting fingers off unintentionally as he attempted to stop my knife with his hands all so he'd just shut the frick up. Nope, couldn't be me.
Was it fun?
Nope, scary and awkward everytime.
>posts redditfrog
Opinion discarded
It's why I used it
This is so wrong its unreal. Go look up any real cartel beheading and the screaming and movement stops at most, 20 seconds into it as long as they hit the jugular. In a military situation its about efficiency, they wont want to slowly behead someone with a pencil to make them suffer.
>HERKA DERKA OH HURRRR YOU CAN LIKE, KILL SOMEONE WITHIN 20 SECONDS WHEN THEY ARE BOUND AND ON THE FLOOR AND CAPTURED DUHHH
This is your brain at work anon, sad!
Go Outside
Good luck anon. You are a brave person
No matter what the truth is, it was an enjoyable post, anon.
Even that will have them bleeding out and gurgling due to vocal cords, anon. It's not like movies where you just slide it across and bleed out silently.
Even cutting a cartoid artery will have a... forgetting exactly... 2 min? 5 min? bleed out time before actual death starts.
Less. 30 seconds before the amount of blood the panicking heart pushes out so much that the bleeding is just a slow drain. Go watch some beheading videos. When done properly, they're out in 5-10 and the blood flow starts slows by 20 seconds. I literally watch gore and sub to a sub only gore website and see it every fricking day. All of you who say beheading are loud are wrong. Its the initial panic of people who have been captured when they realize its over which is loud, the act of killing is quick and silent.
what no b***hes does to a larping motherfricker
You're not beheading anybody with that fricking knife, it's gonna be stab wounds and mayhem unless the guy really gets a clean hand over the mouth or neck and makes a huge deal about silencing the person he's trying to kill. Like if you don't have all the time in the world to really babysit the murder, you're going to have a human body trying its hardest to live. Those dudes getting beheaded die quickly because they want it to be over as fast as possible so they submit to the killing, and even then they'll still sometimes start involuntarily breakdancing in the sand because they can't control their instinct to not die
>Even cutting a cartoid artery will have a... forgetting exactly... 2 min? 5 min? bleed out time before actual death starts.
It's like you didnt even read the thread and see pic related multiple times
This has been debunked repeatedly
If you really think you live longer than 30s after a ruptured carotid artery you are are beyond help.
Knife six inches in the leg at about dick length from the groin on the inside gives you seconds at best before you go unconcious and unless you have an EMT standing next to you at the time then you're guaranteed dead
source: a decade in the meat industry, seen a few accidents
I have no military experience but I did slit the throat of a piglet and it let out some loud gargles and gasps almost sounded like a baby
High pitched vocal ability on a piglet I'd guess, a man's voice is much more muffled when their throats are slit, it's almost silent. Gargling and coughing is the loudest part. I never saw a women or child get their throats slit so I don't know how different it is, just heard men.
Stabbing someone in the back drives the breath out of them and stops them from yelling out.
Stabbing someone in the lungs or cutting their throat completely open completely removes their ability to scream.
Stabbing someone in a major artery will ensure they fall unconscious in a matter of seconds.
Tldr knife es muy sneaky
>Stabbing someone in the back drives the breath out of them and stops them from yelling out.
Christopher Lee said to Peter Jackson on the set for the final LoTR movie. Peter wanted him to go all dramatic about it and Lee told him it doesn't work like that and he wouldn't elaborate further.
Reason number eleventy billion and one that Christopher Lee was badass.
Christopher Lee was a larper
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.spectator.co.uk/article/who-dares-lies/amp
I remember watching an old British commando guy talking about how the training was to stab into the throat from the side and punch the knife out forward.
That's fricking metal
>Victims take several minutes to bleed out
Jesus, I don't know what's better, getting stabbed multiple types or shot multiple times
We have a thread about it over on /k/ but the shopowner is going to jail for sure. The moron did an AMA about it and ran his mouth about not really feeling threatened.
That, and the fact that he headlocked the dude and prevented him from retreating so he should keep stabbing him is going to look awful in court, AND the robber survived to give testimony.
He is fricked.
>The moron did an AMA about it and ran his mouth about not really feeling threatened.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
HOLY FRICK
I HATE REDDITORS.
Speaking of the thread, why do redditors go
>I'm a lawyer
So fricking gay
Please tell me there’s a link to the AMA
There is fren
https://www.reddit.com/r/robbersgettingfricked/comments/wh5tq4/las_vegas_smoke_shop_robbing_owner_ama/
For anyone who cant see the deleted posts:
https://www.unddit.com/r/robbersgettingfricked/comments/wh5tq4/las_vegas_smoke_shop_robbing_owner_ama/
And for anyone who wants to see a different, justified stabbing (the guy was arrested for murder and then finally released after the liberal gay DA got enough pressure):
https://www.reddit.com/r/robbersgettingfricked/comments/vsbpuu/deli_owner_defends_himself_against_robber/
So is this dude fricked?
From that video, I really don't know. He stabbed him UNTIL he tried to run away, there were no stabs after the choke hold. He then dragged him away from what appears to be the back office and then ran toward it. I'm looking through the now deleted reddit AMA but if my dumb ass can find it, the ADA certainly can subpoena reddit for the originals.
Should've killed him when he had the chance.
He better hope the jury doesn't have any Black folk.
>Guy goes into your store and robs you
>Defend yourself
>The robber sues you for injuring him
Only in America.
Clearly went a fair sight beyond defence Black
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
>stop stabbing
>adrenaline takes over and guy ignores pain long enough to pull out a weapon and injure/kill you
He used a completely appropriate amount of force tbh, there's no time for mercy in situations like this
He literally starts stabbing him after the other dude who is seemingly unarmed jumps the counter, not restraining and or disabling him. Sure he's a shitskin for robbery but that dude that stabbed him is 100% fricked, probably a white supremecy incel that wanted a reason to use his knife. If you think this is appropriate force you must live in some 3rd world shithole where this is a common occurrence.
>guy tries to deprive you of your livelihood
>guy endangering both you and your store, possibly making people feel unsafe to come back to it
>not deserving of death
have a nice day you vile Yuro Cuck
How could you possibly know either of the dudes were unarmed? They had backpacks and loose pockets all over.
And he did subdue the guy closest to him. He stabbed the guy a few times in the back, shoulder, and thighs then held him in a choke. If the asian dude really wanted to kill he would've went for the skull/throat.
>using a lethal weapon is ok on an unarmed person, especially multiple times
>i-its self defence, he could have had a gun!
t. terminally online that would have gotten beat up, robbed and possibly killed in that situation
If i was a responsible shop owner I sure as frick wouldnt have a knife at the register I'd have a 12 gauge and the minute any shitskin tried, you better believe I'd pull it out. If they pushed after...well they wouldn't be doing it for very long.
Stop moving the goalposts. The shop owner was clearly trying to disable the guy and not kill him.
YOU are the exact kind of moral coward the human race would have killed off generations ago before 'civilisation' and modern western tolerance allowed cancerous parasites like you to stay alive.
Go rob a store jamal, tell me how it goes for you. Oh right you're just some pussy on the internet.
i'm not a criminal peice of filth. cry more about how lethal force is somehow bad. you homosexual.
>who is seemingly unarmed jumps the counter
How can you be sure he is unarmed? Should the guy being robbed ask nicely, 'hey bro, are you armed' before defending himself? Why should he put his life on the line like that?
>that dude that stabbed him is 100% fricked
Not even discussing this, self-defense laws are moronic. Just saying the robber got what was coming to him.
>probably a white supremecy incel
He's a chink.
>you must live in some 3rd world shithole where this is a common occurrence.
Like America?
The initial stabbing was justified. What was NOT justified in ANY state is pulling the guy back after he tries to flee and driving a knife between his shoulder blades. Even if he hadn't talked about not feeling threatened on reddit, this footage wont play well with a Jury.
>allowing subhuman scum to run off and recuperate, perhaps returning to do you harm with their friends, or to go on to rob other places
disgusting
Yeah I agree, but thats the price you pay for free self defense in the free states in the US.
This is also why you use a gun and not a knife. If he had pulled a pistol and magdumped in the guys face, its over in an instant and completely justified. It also prevents the robber from surviving and suing you later.
Knives are terrible self defense weapons for this very reason. Theres really no way to defend yourself with a knife that doesnt turn into something like this where you get put in Jail.
What will be the prosecution's case for locking him up though?
>My client hopped the counter in an aggressive manner was possibly armed and actually tried to fight back until the defendant started stabbing him in self defense but still spared his life
Genuine question, I'm not American.
The argument is going to be, and always in in self defense cases in America, that you only act to stop the threat. It's just that with firearms, stopping the threat and killing the attacker occur at almost the exact same time.
In this case, the threat is gone when the robber turned away and tried to jump over the counter. The shop owner grabbed him, pulled him back toward himself and re-started the conflict with a stab in the back.
The prosecutors are going to replay that moment over and over for the jury and emphasize that the robber attempted to flee from the conflict. At that point, you are no longer in your right as a citizen to escalate that situation unless you can prove that you feared for the life of a third party, which clearly doesn't exist here.
I would still make the case that if the robber hopped over the counter he could easily pull out a gun and turn on you, no? Or are you not allowed to do anything at all unless they're literally in your face?
You need to prove that he was armed, which by all accounts he wasn't. If he had pulled a gun on the shop keeper and jumped the counter, thats a completely different story, yank him down and kill him and your justified. When guns come out then all bets are off, you do what you need to do. If he's unarmed, you can stab him until he backs off and runs away.
Not that anon, but deadly force is only legally viable when you yourself are directly faced with it, or you have a reasonable fear that the other party themselves have intent to, or the means to kill, or otherwise harm you. That said, that last stab in the back/base of neck is going to frick him up in court.
>you have a reasonable fear that the other party themselves have intent to, or the means to kill, or otherwise harm you
And being robbed isn't? Even if they weren't armed (which you have no way of knowing) they could still beat you to death
The burden of proof is on you. If it wasn't then you could just go and murder anyone and the defense could be "I thought they had a gun"
A group of people in masks coming to your store and robbing your shit isn't "anyone", you disingenuous bastard
apples and oranges. not just anyone is wearing a mask to conceal their identity and attempting to forcibly steal your property and advancing towards you while you're distracted, which is an activity often accompanied by having weapons. But yeah that's totally the same as a random guy on the street
Anon, I'm not talking about shit I personally believe, Im telling you how courts are looking at this. Thats why pretending to have a gun by pointing your finger under your shirt is a different shirt is still a crime, it's just separate from actually pointing a gun at someone.
What the shop keeper did was morally justified, but it was brutal and not going to fly in court.
If you're talking about in the USA, in an American criminal court, you are fricking wrong. A defendant cannot be compelled to testify. A defendant does not have to testify in their defense because then the prosecutor can cross examine. It is 100% on the DA to prove their case, all the defense needs is reasonable doubt, which is why Casey Anthony was found not guilty of everything besides misdemeanors and OJ was found not guilty even though he testified; there was reasonable doubt even though both were clearly guilty as sin.
I am too drunk to read through your entire response thing but if you are talking about civil court, you are correct in some jurisdictions, but incorrect in all cases of criminal court (in the USA, I know Europe is fricking moronic with self defense)
Robbed by what exactly? If you are going to walk around and look like a robber, why wouldn't you walk in and immediately pull out your gun, if you had it? People in court are going to look at this and try the same thing you are doing, "well he could have had a gun", but the fact is the initial stabbings were fair game as they were used to subdue an individual who you believe intends to do you harm. Now here's where that actually becomes invalid though, the moron went on reddit to brag and said "he didn't feel threatened" and then later deleted his posts, which completely throws out the "fear of harm" and im sure thats what his lawyer said. But the most damning thing is pulling the guy back and then stabbing him in the back as he is obviously trying to get away himself.
You Euros really need to shut the frick up about the USA and our laws. I know you're jealous because Travelers and nigs have more rights than you, but jesus chill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_John_Ward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir_Hussain_case
Rent free
>wikipedia as a credible source
Man, education did wonders on you.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tears-as-nally-is-cleared-of-killing-26351350.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/homeowner-jailed-for-tackling-burglar-1840948.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/717511.stm
All Euro news sources, although I know nothing about their politics since Al-Jazeera is the only Euro news source I bother to ever read
if that were the case, wouldn't it be far more efficient to kill you first, then take your shit off the body?
try
>muh client was a gud boi he dindu nuffin, he was werkin dem jawb program, he was going to see if the clerk was injured or too scared and was just trying to calm him down. but this WHITE SUPREMACIST EVIL RACIST MURDER TRASH SCUM, tried a totally unprovoked hate crime to genocide those poor black bois.
What would suck to realize as a juror is with a gun you probably dont have to shoot a fleeing person because you can instantly use deadly force if the attack resumes, but with a knife you have to kill or incapacitate the attacker because he could pull a gun after escaping you.
I don't think I would keep stabbing the guy. But I couldn't hang someone who did either.
Aaah yes of course...the shopkeeper is a hardcore white supremacist named Johnny Nguyen...what a WHITE name....cant get any WHITER than this
>still doing this on foot
>not just offline raiding them with a car
Glow harder Black person holy frick lmao
probably not a glowie, but an ebonics enthusiast who wants people to feel weak and powerless and think they're not allowed to do anything to stop him when HE goes and does something MUH REPARATIONS REEE
The fact is he DID stop and subdue him, but continued to stab him when he tried to run away. That is not justified and he will be crucified with assault with a deadly weapon maybe even attempted murder.
Well if he doesnt get charged in criminal court then he's going to have a hell of a civil lawsuit to deal with.
Any reasonable jury will find those last two stabs as completely justifiable, given that the guy didnt know if the other could produce a weapon as a final "frick you"
The rule of law is dead, princess. Grow up.
You're right. I also remember when this man was found guilty of self defense in a situation in which it was clearly self defense.
I live in the USA, and yes it does. Believing yourself to be in mortal peril is absolutely a defense. Maybe not if you live in Cali or NY but everywhere else it is.
>guilty of self defense
I need to fricking sleep holy shit why do I stay up so late with you morons
Just remember, the police are your enemy.
Last time I got pulled over, I was going 55 in a 35 (it was a wide road and everyone does it). I hadnt slept, and because of my red eyes, the cop called two more, asked permission to search it for drugs (was given it) and found nothing. He apologized and didnt ticket me for speeding. The police ARE my friend because I literally know most of them in my town on a first name basis, and because I dont do bad shit (except smoking weed like every other month, but its legal in my state).
Go to any gore site. MMC and WPD alone showed me countless videos where people shot or stabbed in vital areas could walk for hundred of feet before the adrenaline wears off.
I know, which is why I hope its fake. I think its justified but his "I dont give a shit" position could invalidate any sense of self defense and land him in jail for like 15 years.
You had your time wasted by the police for something that shouldn't even be illegal, and you're calling them your friend.
I shouldn't even respond to you.
You're a homosexual, shut up Black person.
Because I had bright red eyes and was speeding, which is a legit reason to suspect someone of being high. Frick you, you call me a Black person? You're the one afraid of them so you're either a black or a poor white, either way, a Black person. Or a foreigner in which case I dont care about you, go back to /k/ with your anime rifle.
tl;dr b***h shut up Black person
tldr I'm drunk and still danced on your poor minority MAGA ass. You know nothing about US laws on self defense because you choose to be ignorant. Like a black. Shut the frick up. I bet you think CPS is a cult to rape kids too, huh, you broke ass inner city fricking pieces of low class shit.
cry about it
I'm laughing. I owned two kids on the forum and I'm laughing, Murray.
>Posts weeb shit
>I'm drunk
Black person I doubt you're even old enough to post on here.
Yes. I'm 32 and will post all sorts of shit I want. Frick you. Seethe at the glory of the right to self defense we have here that you don't. I've been to London, Paris, Malmo, Copenhagen and Stockholm, you're more nig infested than NYC and you cant even defend yourself. Die mad
>hurr arent you old
Yes. And I'm here because TOTSE died and Zoklet sucks.
No 😀
lowest iq homosexual to ever psot on Ganker tell me who you are i will put you down like the rabid dog you are you filthy Black person
>32
>Weeb
You are so unbelievably pathetic, it's unreal. I bet you have one of those pillows you call a "waifu" and frick it every night you kissless virgin, go die in a fricking ditch you pussy.
Nope, just a cat. Don't be mad at oldgay energy. It's okay. Seethe. Just go to sleep and be mad, my little Euro friend. And yeah I'm a weeb, for Gundam and mecha but I know how much anime girls make you frickers mad so I have a whole folder of it just for you my little snookums :3
>asiatic
Filthy ironic weeb.
All rook same but here, fine, a Jap one. I know you just wanted to bump your shit EU thread and I'm to clap back
>schizo too
No, just saw a filthy ironic weeb posting asiatic and had to inform you of your larping. Now take your meds.
You do realize I'm having more fun drinking, shitposting, and playing LASER BEAM with my cat that talking to you is immaterial. "All I Want For Christmas" by Mariah Carey came on and I danced around the room with a laser pointer while smiling, knowing I make you upset with Every Breath I Take (which will be the next song I listen to)
😀
nta but having so much fun youre sitting around waiting for replies to play the "last laugh" game like a teenager
what are you doing here normalgay-kun
you must be really lonely if you come to an anime website to pick fights with anime fans
Go back to r*ddit
Damn, did I act like this when I was drunk? Jesus fricking christ how horrifying.
have a nice day
beta cringe homosexual
didn't ask
don't care
didn't read
shut up Black person
You realize he literally said he didn't feel threatened in the reddit thread? There was no peril after he (the robber) tried to get away.
Anon it doesnt work like that in the US. Assuming someone COULD have a weapon is not justification to continue to escalate a deadly confrontation after the attacker tries to flee.
>pulls a phone from his pocket in front of the police
Cops are a different class here. It sucks and most of us hate it but they get to follow different rules.
>final "frick you"
When you are going through hypovolemic shock i really really doubt your first thought is "well im gonna take this fricker with me". Stop with your anime memes.
>That is not justified
Wrong
No he didn't?
And Australia. Better pray no one tries to rob your house because the law apparently prefers the homeowners dead than the invaders incapacitated in any fashion.
robbers are dumb fricks but hearing that guy sadly declare "I'm dead..." really made me feel sad
What made me kinda sad was when he (I think) called out "Bobby" to his friend. Doesn't make me too sad though. Mostly concerned the shopkeeper might go to jail :(.
They all lived and have been arrested
No charges
>no charges
Sure about that? The article in the tweet you posted says nothing about charges. Where is the tweet getting that info?
This makes me happy about the "no charges" but it took months for Zimmerman to be charged. This doesn't mean he's off the hook completely and I hope that moronic Reddit AMA was fake. Also took months for these three (they killed the black jogger) to be charged. Fun fact about that one, the only reason they were charged was because the lawyer for the third guy released it thinking it would turn public opinion in his client's favor.
>Johnny When
Protagonist name, he’s in the clear
It sounded like he was telling his discord buddies he just died in Fortnite and made me laugh pretty hard to be honest
bruh who tf else gonna play duos with me now this shit fricked up fr fr
If you're not a specially trained commando it will probably end up messy but this old Englishman frightens me.
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I really fricking wish he'd stop calling it a "job". I wouldn't want to piss him or anyone he cares about off.
>killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
So this is a lie?
I mean this definitely reads like someone sucking off "MUH COOL MILITARY MURDER GUY SAID SO", so I'm inclined to not believe it either
I spent enough time watching beheading videos to tell you that outside of the cries for mercy from people knowing they're about to be executed, once the blade slips in its all over. You're a fricking LARPing moron
Why does mori look like this?
More like before meth
You would need to swap the right and left then. I did Adderall for a week and I ate like 4 bagels and a jug of OJ the entire time. Meth is like 100x worse
Yes its her
It's never too late to quit.
is that actually her? I so then I KNEW she was a fat ugly dyke just from hearing her fat ugly dyke voice
She likes dick, she got dicked down by one of the trash taste guys
>one of the trash taste guys
I don't know what that means
>In certain situations. When your handgun is out of ammo, and you're in a close-combat situation, it can be useful to drive a knife into an enemy's vital point. Other than that, no, they are not practical. In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
But always carry a knife. They are useful tools, and don't rely on finite ammunition. They only require periodic sharpening.
There was literally a video of some fat chum dying in seconds after being stabbed in the neck. I said fat because they typically have more blood.
u talkin bout strayan who killed by some maori
ok reddit, I'm pretty sure enough people read that Christopher Lee quote by now
>and will be screaming the entire time.
This might be the best bait I've seen all decade.
Silencers on pistols are not as stealthy as movies make you think.
WTF
The mythbusters tested it, there is a certain range that you're better off using a knife than a gun.
How so? It's not like smaller guns would be that cumbersome and you don't suddenly become unable to shoot when they get too close
Unless you're ready to shoot it's literally faster to just run up and shank a guy
>In contradiction to what fiction will lead you to believe, killing someone with a knife is not very stealthy. Victims take several minutes to bleed out, and will be screaming the entire time.
Knife attacks incur multiple stabbings, sometimes dozens of times. The chances of hitting a vital organ or artery go up the more you do it obviously, in which case you'll be dead as quick as a minute
Are you talking about 21 feet range?
Yes
21 foot rule is about knives vs guns that aren't drawn yet
American reading comprehension at its finest.
I mean it beat an empty hand and doesn't effect your aim.
Exactly, he carves the grip so he can fit the knife handle in and still hold the gun properly, if he gets into a close quarters fight he doesn't need to unsheathe his knife
1911 was designed with one handed shooting in mind as well but MGS uses anime physics so you'd have to try it out and see if you die to be sure.
> KNIFE
> GUN
> KNIFE-GUN!
Didnt you ever play MW2 you use the magnetic repulsion between them to propell yourself across a room to stab dudes
Cooooommaaaaandoooooooooo
Wouldn't it be more practical to hold the knife in a dominant hand, or is Snake ambidextrous?
Considering how Snake is supposed to be the greatest warrior of the 20th century, it's safe to say that he's definitely left handed.
He’s so left-handed that he keeps using all his guns right-handed even after losing his right eye, which would make use of the sights difficult or impossible.
I want you to close one eye and hold out your hands in front of you like you are holding a gun and aiming it
Now i want you to realize how moronic you actually are.
I own actual guns. If I hold a long gun right-handed and close my right eye, I can’t use the sights.
>long gun
If you're talking about a gun with a SCOPE sure, but you specifically said SIGHTS which most people relate to Iron sights, which would not render it impossible to use if you were missing an eye.
In anything approaching a reasonable shooting position, no, the iron sights still don’t line up with my left eye.
Pretty much.
I can't remember, when does he get the cybernetic eye? I know that Solid used one in MGS4 , but I thought Naked Snake/BigBoss, after MGS3 (either during Portable Ops or Peacewalker or definitely by MGSV) he could actually see out of that eye with the patch on it? Either the patch itself, or he has a cybernetic eye connected to it or something? I mean he's got a fricking cybernetic hand and forearm that works better than the biological original, so the eye isn't out of the question
First off, no, Big Boss never used any cybernetic enhancements whatsoever, that was Venom that used a prosthetic arm
And second, no Big Boss never touched his eyepatch at all, he even died with it in MGS4.
There’s never anything stated about that. You might be mixing him up with Raiden, who does get a cyber-eyepatch in MGRR.
only if it doesn't impede your shooting
He carves the grip to fit the knife in so it shouldn't impact his shooting
you use your forearm to steady your aim and if need you thrust to give a quick stab
the way snake is holding it is silly and kind of dangerous
this method isn't practical for a sneaking mission
It's not real but it ends up being pretty useful in VR games.
This doesn't really help you stabilize yourself. The way Snake does it also probably isn't real, but it makes more sense if you do what Snake does and carve out a big notch in the grip.
How does this reload?
You have 5 fingers. Use your middle and ring to pin the knife to your palm. Pointer and thumb can grab the mag.
with style
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Tap R2
i went to uni with a sf dude (kinda nutty and incelly constantly b***hed about women fricking up military)
but from what he told me, he used his knife for utility/tool rather than a weapon. told me he was taught to use hand to hand combat to get to the closest gun rather than to kill.
I've heard that as well, makes sense, a gun can put someone down much faster than a knife, even at close range
I play quite a bit of VR and it is very useful there. Sometimes things can be too close for a gun to be the fastest way to react. The knife acts as defence while the gun as offence. It is good for fast cqc encounters or putting distance between you and the enemy
Hey heads up next time you want to really give some validity to a claim dont use "i play quite a bit of VR"
That's far more effective than live exercises, there's pain sensation in VR, and even a sense of urgency
Are you a fricking moron. I say that I play VR, I am not trying to larp as some professional killer. Its just what I have experienced in games where you actually have to move your body instead of pushing buttons. My conclusion for playing such games is that knife and pistol isn't a bad strategy.
Simultaneously? Likely not. But actual long term deep cover ops often only have one or both of those.
T. Military autist
Are you the same one that blew out the dutch military during a training sim all those years ago?
I can buy that a knife serves you better at close range, but unless you're inside a building or something, you shouldn't be letting anyone close in the first place.
That's the point of firearms, to kill the guy when he's standing way over there.
>FOXHOUND main weapons are the M9 and MAC-10
>Outer Heaven troops are equipped with AUGs
Does Big Boss have good taste?
>FOXHOUND main weapons are the M9 and MAC-10
????
>americans name their guns after mcdonals burgers
Any chance this could work irl?
Theoretically possible but probably wouldn't work in practice 99% of the time.
Wouldn't peripheral vison paired with the Glowing light strapped to his head give him away every time?
I did this shit all the time in highschool
chio-chan pls
Considering fisher is like a top .5 secret operator, I’d say yeah sure it’s possible. If you’re exactly like him.
Any chance I could win against Fisher in a hand to hand situation?
Hand to hand? Probably not, but hand to wiener and I'd put money on you for sure.
I did this all the time in the hallway of my house with my sister when we were little. Called it playing spiderman. Pissed mom off because we kept falling and not getting hurt and also getting footprints all over the walls.
It's pretty easy when you're like a 40lb child but I can't see an adult man in full combat gear staying there for even a single second if he can get into that position in the first place. Weight and gravity beats out friction real fricking easy no matter how hard you press your feet against the wall, and that's not really a leg position that lets you apply a lot of force.
>with my sister when we were little. Called it playing spiderman.
go web!
Yes.
Satisfying as frick.
Anon, there's a reason why bayonets exist.
Brb gonna go attack a fricking bayonet to a handgun
Humans shields I guess, but outside of that one situation it's moronic
In theory, yes. If an enemy got the jump on you and you were grappling with them, they could possibly disable your handgun, making the knife useful if it were already deployed. Additionally, having both weapons out at once forces your opponent to have to deal with both of them simultaneously, which is a lot more difficult than simply grabbing your handgun with both hands and disabling or taking it away from you.
R6S is a genuinely moronic game.
Want to see under a door? You're going to have to use a moronic little drone. Can't be using mirrors under the door like Sheriff Cletus did in New Mexico territory, circa 1879. We've forgotten how mirrors work.
Barricaded opponents? Vehicle is weapon. Ram structure. Pull it down with a hook and chain. Do something instead of creating a whole circus by running inside a likely trapped building full of armed opponents.
Why do you have to grapple up when most militaries and larger tactical units have access to armored vehicles with ladders or elevated breaching platforms on top? If you don't have that, most (at least North American) fire departments have ladder trucks. What is the fricking purpose of going spiderman up the building only to get shot the moment your hand appears in the corner of a window?
Why do you have to enter in the first place? If they don't have a hostage, why not burn them? Why don't you pull a Philadelphia Police and blow the building up? Why not IDF it with an armored bulldozer?
The equipment and tactics of the average 1990 United States SWAT team would be more effective than the moronic sci-fi le heckin inclusive bullshit in the game.
dunno but i just watched that robbery stabbing and tat shit was fricking brutal. the guy getting stabbed even quotes the counter strike doorstuck meme as hes dying
This is why I don't like knives as self defense weapons
If he had pulled a gun and shot the guy when he jumped the counter, if the robber dies, stupid games stupid prizes. Guns quickly decide an outcome and it could be the shopkeepers last chance to use it.
But to kill someone much slower by repeatedly stabbing them in the back while holding them as they attempt to flee. That's a proverbial shooting in the back. I don't know if I could convict that shop owner as a juror because fog of war, but that looked and felt so wrong.
>If he had pulled a gun and shot the guy when he jumped the counter
Really depends on the country. Here in Canada if you shoot someone for any reason, even if they are literally trying to kill you, you're going to jail.
>But then what's the point of owning a gun?
Good question.
I 100% agree with you. I'm all in for self defense, but the way he stabs him looks evil.
If he had just blew the guys head off with a shotgun I would be fine, but yeah slowly killing him it's kinda fricked up.
>Is simultaneous usage of a gun/knife practical at all?
Of course it is. Try to remember the basics of CQC, Snake.
None of it's practical in a tumble. Just stabbing the shit out of them and hopes of hitting the right spot is the only reasonable way to get a guy using a knife
If anyone pulls a knife on you, run unless you're cornered, then fight back with everything you can, poke their eyes, bite, everything. I know you all think you can pull some my ninja way shit but there's a phrase I've heard saying "the person who wins a knife fight is the one who dies in the ambulance and not at the scene."
It is so pointless to make doing anything you could do with an empty hand harder, like reloading or grappling limbs, just to have a knife when you already have a gun out.
It doesn’t feel cool because it doesn’t seem like what a trained operative would do, it seems like something a kid does cause they think it looks cool.
I’m glad they stopped doing it in V.
Yes I'm sure Gankerirgins have seen plenty of combat and would know lmfao!!!
Credible instructors aren't teaching it
No one in any special forces/police/security has developed a way for this to work practically
Historically the closest thing that was done was officers fighting with swords and black powder pistols, and Ghurkas with their Kukris and carbines.
It seems there really isn't a situation where this is advantageous over just using one of the weapons at a time.
Knives will beat guns every time if you are trained properly.
Damn I guess every military on the planet replacing swords with guns centuries ago were wrong and this random Ganker poster is right.
I'm holding you back anon, he's not worth your time!
it's the practical way to accidentally stab yourself in the stomach and then accidentally have a nice day in the face when you bend down to react to it.
In close range, yes.
There are combat/melee situations where you might even use your own teeth against an enemy.
Combat is a very complex situation of life and death. Holding a gun and knife like that is hardly unusual.
What's unusual is the number of americans with firearms that have still done nothing with them while their country falls deeper into the mires of sin. An acedia that could lead to millions of men, women, and children dead in the coming years. THAT is unusual.
But Solid Snake engaging in combat like a man? Well, I guess you could say he is only a fantastical videogame character.
But real men with real guns sitting on their real asses, doing nothing while enemy forces led by satan surround them—perhaps that is also absurdly fantastical.
Also don't forget cqc was developed with the help of actual military self defense experts. Many of the things you see snake do with it are actual techniques used by some specops guys.
lol. they literally made it up, you dumbass.
Not him but Kojima hired some security expert or whatever (a nipponese guy) that helped them develop CQC. So it might be BS but they consulted people who know self defense at least.
basically the equivalent of going to /k/ for advice
Kojima is such a fricking gay. Most annoying person in the industry. At least those homosexual depressed indie devs have the decency to dissappear from public discourse after a few weeks.
what the frick do you think a bayonet is?
>Shoot at guy
>Pistol whip him if he gets too close
The knife is really unnecessary.
Only time I see the knife being handy is if you throw your gun at the dude and charge at him with a knife so you can stab and choke him at the same time.
>Throw a gun
>Throw
>Gun
If the mag is empty and the guy is too close, you fricking throw that paperweight at him and countercharge.
There's no way you'll ever reload fast enough with a guy 20 ft away with a weapon sprinting at you.
Personally I'd pull out my 2nd pistol, but most people wouldn't prepare like that.
I want you to realize guns arent exactly balanced so throwing one at someone is not smart or effective. These sorts of situations are exactly why keeping track of how many rounds you have left and reloading is important. If you're in a situation where the other guy has a leg up on you and is 20 ft away charging most likely you are just fricked.
t. CoD Legend unironically
Yes
>wake up
>read this thread
holy shit this is gonna be a good day.
>small dick energy
I bet you vape too homosexual
Could you Gypsies and Mutts stop bickering?
people used swords and guns together back in the good days of before WW1
probably, but it's outclassed by the art of throwing homies to the ground
why dont you frickers stab yourselves in the thigh/throat and see how long you bleed out instead of bickering?
you would be doing the world a favor doing that