Just got Reigning Slash. What the frick is that shit? The first boss was already shit (evade, counter and use one arte, repeat) and I can see how it gets even worse from now on. Is there any boss you can actually go full CUHRAYZEE on?
About half way into the game you can have access to six arte shortcuts at a time, which is about as crazy as it gets. The enemies act the same the whole way through
At first I thought that Tales of Arise is the best game this year, but then this happened
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1543030/Sword_and_Fairy_7/
Literally an open world immersive ARPG with insane graphics (including DLSS2.0 and ray tracing), god tier gameplay, god tier China punk, god tier story (no western trash in it and protected by the glorious Communist Chinese party from all degeneracy), and to top it all, it looks like it will cost like $20 for the full game (frick you Bandai for selling a small dlc for $15 which should have been free).
I like it so far, but I have no idea how to play Dohalim and dodging with Alphen seems to trigger his counter only when I dodge in a very specific way. I also have no idea what to put in his artes apart from his Stinger.
Ganker is nearly always wrong, besides people seemed to like it when the game came out so I imagine it's just seething contrarians pissy the game really sold well.
More like the game starts out decent then shits itself half way through. You'd know this if you actually played the game instead of just shilling whatever garbage gets a high Metacritic score.
To this day I can't comprehend how this game got even a single 9/10. 5 years, and all they could do, other than a contrived pants-on-head moronic plot, is to give us an abortion unseen since Xenogears Disc 2? And without its payoff, even? What the frick have they been doing for these past 5 years, other than designing corridors and "writing" hundreds of armchair psychologists skits? 6.5-7/10 at best considering how shit the pacing and writing is.
I feel like Tales is a special case as far as bitter, broken fanbases go because basically everything that can go wrong with a fanbase has already happened.
>A long line of fairly similar games released at short intervals, leading fans to make more intensive judgements based on more and more minor criteria (See also: Mega Man) >A string of critical failures, leading fans to divide based on whether they still support the brand and for what reason (See also: Sonic the Hedgehog) >Behind the scenes drama, attracting shitposters who have no interest in the series and just want attention (See also: whatever the top thread on Ganker is about right now) >A new game that disturbs the status quo in some way but also brings in a sizable number of new fans, bringing a divide between newbies and oldgays (See also: Fire Emblem)
There are a lot of fractured fanbases on here but Tales is basically the Balkans. The only thing keeping these fans from being complete cesspools is that they don't have any high-profile shitposters or the raw autism of Sonic threads, but they're still teetering on the brink of being unusable.
here's the future of tales bro >half of the combat is aerial combo >bosses have permanent iron-stance >bosses can't be juggled >even when they're "staggered", they stay on the ground >you won't even have a chance to use aerial artes unless it's giant bosses >gameplay is reduced to roll+reigning slash
did you like it?
>inb4 muh diminishing returns
sweety play the game
>inb4 y-you're playing the gaem wrong!!1
sweety here's your combogod rolling around like a moron spamming eagle dive and his dlc arte
>AI never jumps, and thus will only ever use aerial attacks if they use a move that launches them in the air first >Shionne, Kisara and Rinwell lack these so they'll NEVER use aerial attacks under any circumstance >Do Shionne's novice arena and learn 5 moves in a row
>is the best ARPG of the year in your path
Not even close shit skin but will win game of the year rewards regardless due to PC secondaries high jacking and ruining the franchise because they didn't get snoys final fantasy 7 remake
No, I deal with facts.
ARPG has objectively been classified as loot-based isometric loot games like Diablo 2, Path of Exile and similar games for many, many years.
JUST THE THREAD I WAS LOOKING FOR!
Need some help anons
Im currently level 37 right after the renans shoot some shit down form the moon and im working on current available side quest.
Whats the best elve to beat the "earth spirit temple"?
I have to admit going thru the portal and watching the game turn into a mini dungeon crawler was fun and unexpected.
Fricking laser sentries were tough as shit though and luckily i had full stocked items to push thru to get to the boss area, but boss decimates me and my team.
Let me tell you gays why Rinwell is the best girl in the game
>racist as frick and hateful towards renanas >loves books and care about preserving Dahnam ways >wants to genocide all renans >intelligent and loves books >hometown is 1244 when it should be 1488
Rinwell is a bad b***h and is the only one with personality comapred to Kisara and Shinoee
Is this finally a Tales game with decent combat? I am 3 characters in and this might be the first time i'm not completely fricking lost >Alphen deals a FRICK ton of damage but also dies in 3 seconds, he heavily relies on Shionne healing him. Being able to regulate the amount of hp the attack the more damage you wanna do is amazing >Shionne has excellent small AoE attacks for small amounts of enemies in the bombs, the healing is really quick and she knows how to stay away while healing. Access to bigger aoe attacks for strong / more enemies is also great. >Rinwell's double spell mechanic is very easy to pull of, just hold and store. The Spell Absorber thing was good on Magilou but you had to use her, with the d-pad abilities thats a non-issue. >Keeping the combos encourages perfect dodging, reaching the insta KO bar usually deals enough damage to end the battle immediately, making shitty encounters faster. >Shionne ability knocks down flying enemies, which comboes with alphen +damage against knocked enemies. Alphen ability stuns enemies, with comboes with both shionne and rinwell heavy spells. You can even ready a spell and use Alphen dpad right before the spell for crazy damage.
Word of advice before you get the fourth character: go to the tactics menu, and for your default tactics set the healing threshold at 50% instead of 25%. Also Set up a tactics setting that prioritizes "Do Nothing" for when bosses get enraged; it's misleading because ranged characters will still attack but everyone will stay far enough away to not get killed.
I like Tales games for my cool combos. Arise has some cool looking artes but no bosses stagger so there's no reason to find out combos or what artes work together. Shit was basically the exact opposite of what I wanted from this series
not him but >fantastic ost and visuals >likable cast >excellent pacing for 80% of the game >lots of content and replayability >combat is based if you accept its quirks >serviceable plot and pretty interesting lore
i'd put it in the same league as bloodborne, maybe not the best ARPG but it's up there for sure
replies like this are pointless anyways because detractors are just gonna go "hurrr what you find great is actually the worst thing ever", so yeah
Not even the best ARPG in its own series
I love Shionne!
Based Shionneposter
Based, the thread is complete
Not with those boss fights.
>what is Lost Judgement
>what is NEO TWEWY
>what is Scarlet Nexus
>what is Nier Replicant
>what is Ys IX
There’s also the complete edition of Nioh 2 that was just released this year.
Arise is better than all of them.
Boss fights are actually decent in those games so they’re already better than Arise in that regard
Do Arisegays really believe this?
based
all worse, amazing
>>what is Lost Judgement
Why the frick do people think the Yakuza/Judgment games are ARPGs? They're brawler/action games.
you roleplay as kimitaku
>what is NEO TWEWY
Yeah, you're right. Almost no one know what is NEO TWEWY because it sold like shit.
ys ix was complete dogshit lol
struggling to think of worse ARPGs this year than tales of assrise
Ender Lilies?
ys ix was fricking terrible. you must be trolling.
Just got Reigning Slash. What the frick is that shit? The first boss was already shit (evade, counter and use one arte, repeat) and I can see how it gets even worse from now on. Is there any boss you can actually go full CUHRAYZEE on?
>Is there any boss you can actually go full CUHRAYZEE on?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Is there any boss you can actually go full CUHRAYZEE on?
Oh, you poor soul
About half way into the game you can have access to six arte shortcuts at a time, which is about as crazy as it gets. The enemies act the same the whole way through
Can you bind them to individual buttons on a keyboard? Like a hotbar.
Cool. The monster are spongeish on hard so at least I might get some fun out the combat on them
>threads are already dead
Well that didn’t last long
There’s just not a whole lot to talk about. It’s as shallow as it gets.
This is literally every game on nu Ganker after the first two weeks. I don't know why you're both pretending this is new.
>This is literally every game on nu Ganker after the first two weeks.
I still see threads for games on here pop up from time-to-time.
Give it to me straight. Should I play this? Got the next 2 days off
yep
Go in with normal expectations and you'll enjoy it. Flashy combat, solid characters, ok story, looks great.
It's same as the beginning where you bind three, but if you hold another key it has different set of 3 to use
So the game forces you to use a modifier even on PC?
At first I thought that Tales of Arise is the best game this year, but then this happened
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1543030/Sword_and_Fairy_7/
Literally an open world immersive ARPG with insane graphics (including DLSS2.0 and ray tracing), god tier gameplay, god tier China punk, god tier story (no western trash in it and protected by the glorious Communist Chinese party from all degeneracy), and to top it all, it looks like it will cost like $20 for the full game (frick you Bandai for selling a small dlc for $15 which should have been free).
Yet it's not good enough for it's own thread lmao
>playing games on PC
ugh my SeX runs games better than 99% of you.
It better not have any of that danmei shit in it
I like it so far, but I have no idea how to play Dohalim and dodging with Alphen seems to trigger his counter only when I dodge in a very specific way. I also have no idea what to put in his artes apart from his Stinger.
Rinwell's irregularly large forehead.
Hoo
I wish that they had been given more time and resources for Lenegis.
La fricking mao
So in other words, this is the only ARPG you played this year.
What's an ideal general-use combat strategy setup? using Shionne+Rinwell+Dohalim while playing as Law
oh boy spamming reigning slash!
I beat the whole game without even knowing Reigning Slash spam was a thing
>wonder what the frick is the deal with Reigning Slash, since I never used it
>try it out
bro what the frick, why is this move so fricking strong
Ganker told me it was trash
It's pretty fricking good
Ganker is nearly always wrong, besides people seemed to like it when the game came out so I imagine it's just seething contrarians pissy the game really sold well.
More like the game starts out decent then shits itself half way through. You'd know this if you actually played the game instead of just shilling whatever garbage gets a high Metacritic score.
Played the entire game. Thought it was amazing all the way through.
>y-you're just a shill!
I did finish it. Keep coping you little homosexual.
To this day I can't comprehend how this game got even a single 9/10. 5 years, and all they could do, other than a contrived pants-on-head moronic plot, is to give us an abortion unseen since Xenogears Disc 2? And without its payoff, even? What the frick have they been doing for these past 5 years, other than designing corridors and "writing" hundreds of armchair psychologists skits? 6.5-7/10 at best considering how shit the pacing and writing is.
God Eater devs have never put out a good game, it's no surprise they managed to frick up Tales of too.
I feel like Tales is a special case as far as bitter, broken fanbases go because basically everything that can go wrong with a fanbase has already happened.
>A long line of fairly similar games released at short intervals, leading fans to make more intensive judgements based on more and more minor criteria (See also: Mega Man)
>A string of critical failures, leading fans to divide based on whether they still support the brand and for what reason (See also: Sonic the Hedgehog)
>Behind the scenes drama, attracting shitposters who have no interest in the series and just want attention (See also: whatever the top thread on Ganker is about right now)
>A new game that disturbs the status quo in some way but also brings in a sizable number of new fans, bringing a divide between newbies and oldgays (See also: Fire Emblem)
There are a lot of fractured fanbases on here but Tales is basically the Balkans. The only thing keeping these fans from being complete cesspools is that they don't have any high-profile shitposters or the raw autism of Sonic threads, but they're still teetering on the brink of being unusable.
>listening to Ganker
You only have yourself to blame for doing something that stupid
>ARPG
it's mostly a visual novel
here's the future of tales bro
>half of the combat is aerial combo
>bosses have permanent iron-stance
>bosses can't be juggled
>even when they're "staggered", they stay on the ground
>you won't even have a chance to use aerial artes unless it's giant bosses
>gameplay is reduced to roll+reigning slash
did you like it?
>inb4 muh diminishing returns
sweety play the game
>inb4 y-you're playing the gaem wrong!!1
sweety here's your combogod rolling around like a moron spamming eagle dive and his dlc arte
>AI never jumps, and thus will only ever use aerial attacks if they use a move that launches them in the air first
>Shionne, Kisara and Rinwell lack these so they'll NEVER use aerial attacks under any circumstance
>Do Shionne's novice arena and learn 5 moves in a row
Must not have a lot of competition considering how shitty a tales game it is.
>is the best ARPG of the year in your path
Not even close shit skin but will win game of the year rewards regardless due to PC secondaries high jacking and ruining the franchise because they didn't get snoys final fantasy 7 remake
>ARPG
It's LITERALLY not remotely like Diablo, what the frick? It's a JRPG.
Are you moronic?
No, I deal with facts.
ARPG has objectively been classified as loot-based isometric loot games like Diablo 2, Path of Exile and similar games for many, many years.
A stands for Action moron literally any RPG that's not turn based is an ARPG
Objectively false. ARPG has been the designated term specifically for Diablo, PoE and similar games for over 20 years.
>majority are the corretly assigned Diablo-style games
>then a bunch of random JRPGs and one WRPG
This proves nothing other than google is moronic.
they should be called different things but they aren't so just cry and shit your pants more about it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Action_role-playing_video_games
JUST THE THREAD I WAS LOOKING FOR!
Need some help anons
Im currently level 37 right after the renans shoot some shit down form the moon and im working on current available side quest.
Whats the best elve to beat the "earth spirit temple"?
I have to admit going thru the portal and watching the game turn into a mini dungeon crawler was fun and unexpected.
Fricking laser sentries were tough as shit though and luckily i had full stocked items to push thru to get to the boss area, but boss decimates me and my team.
When should i come back?
The light sidequests are pretty obviously intended for postgame; you'll probably beat the final boss at around level 50 and they're all 55+.
Let me tell you gays why Rinwell is the best girl in the game
>racist as frick and hateful towards renanas
>loves books and care about preserving Dahnam ways
>wants to genocide all renans
>intelligent and loves books
>hometown is 1244 when it should be 1488
Rinwell is a bad b***h and is the only one with personality comapred to Kisara and Shinoee
Guys do I:
>SOVERIEGN SLASH SOVEREIGN SLASH SOVEREIGN SLASH
>or play Law and have fun
Is this finally a Tales game with decent combat? I am 3 characters in and this might be the first time i'm not completely fricking lost
>Alphen deals a FRICK ton of damage but also dies in 3 seconds, he heavily relies on Shionne healing him. Being able to regulate the amount of hp the attack the more damage you wanna do is amazing
>Shionne has excellent small AoE attacks for small amounts of enemies in the bombs, the healing is really quick and she knows how to stay away while healing. Access to bigger aoe attacks for strong / more enemies is also great.
>Rinwell's double spell mechanic is very easy to pull of, just hold and store. The Spell Absorber thing was good on Magilou but you had to use her, with the d-pad abilities thats a non-issue.
>Keeping the combos encourages perfect dodging, reaching the insta KO bar usually deals enough damage to end the battle immediately, making shitty encounters faster.
>Shionne ability knocks down flying enemies, which comboes with alphen +damage against knocked enemies. Alphen ability stuns enemies, with comboes with both shionne and rinwell heavy spells. You can even ready a spell and use Alphen dpad right before the spell for crazy damage.
Arise's combat is dogshit compared to the good Tales of games, you just got filtered because you're a moron.
Word of advice before you get the fourth character: go to the tactics menu, and for your default tactics set the healing threshold at 50% instead of 25%. Also Set up a tactics setting that prioritizes "Do Nothing" for when bosses get enraged; it's misleading because ranged characters will still attack but everyone will stay far enough away to not get killed.
That honor goes to Nier, OP. Also Arise is a mediocre Tales game.
2021 was *that* terrible?
I like Tales games for my cool combos. Arise has some cool looking artes but no bosses stagger so there's no reason to find out combos or what artes work together. Shit was basically the exact opposite of what I wanted from this series
>A DLC is better than an entire game
Tales of arise is the definition of FF7r but bad.
Probably the best ARPG ever in all honesty.
Please play more games
I've played every major ARPG release ever.
Don't be such a miserable homosexual please.
I highly doubt that. Tell me, what makes this game so much better than all other releases?
not him but
>fantastic ost and visuals
>likable cast
>excellent pacing for 80% of the game
>lots of content and replayability
>combat is based if you accept its quirks
>serviceable plot and pretty interesting lore
i'd put it in the same league as bloodborne, maybe not the best ARPG but it's up there for sure
replies like this are pointless anyways because detractors are just gonna go "hurrr what you find great is actually the worst thing ever", so yeah
Yeah I loved this game
Can't wait for the next one now that they have the engine already set-up and vastly more funds to work with.
Anime adaption when? Direct sequel when?