Is this supposed to be SO boring and clunky?
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Is this supposed to be SO boring and clunky? Bastards, you fool me again?
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whats it's like, to have the attention span of a goldfish?
Fallout 3 is honest too because they clearly show enclave as the villains and go ham on n that fact
FNV pretends to be morally complex when NCR are the clear good guys and Caesar Legion is the bad guys. FNV is dishonest. At least F3 known it’s morally simply and I respect the writers more as a result
>NCR are the clear good guys
retard
Stop pretending FNV is morally complex. Good Lord, FNV fans truly have delusion of grandeur from sipping on that nostalgia bottle
A lot more than 3 is the BoS is so laughable that Bethesda overcorrected in 4
>multiple factions each with different ideals, societies, moralities, policies, and governing styles
I don’t know how you would think this is simple, honestly it sounds like a cope to me.
I gotta admit I really don't like how they added that Bitter Root guy to say that actually the NCR dindu nuffin at Bitter Springs, it was all the Khan's fault
Fuck off Sawyer, don't be too much of a pussy to give your favorite faction actual flaws
And FNV fans will still go
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>NO, WE WON'T BE ADDING CONTENT TO HECKIN' LEGION, WE DON'T SUPPORT NAZIS
>can't even work with the enclave in fallout 3
pathetic
how are they not? the leadership is fucked but thats not represented in the troops you meet and interact with, just their fucked supply lines and the ineptitude caused by retarded orders. the common people only dont like the ncr because of the martial law.
The troops are just cannon fodder their opinions are irrelevant only the leadership matters cause they make the actual decisions.
>but thats not represented in the troops you meet and interact with
double retard
Which ncr troopers do you meet that are evil bastards like literally everyone in the legion?
we are talking about the leadership being fucked, now you are trying to make it about being morally evil, christ put that goal post down, from the leaders in the mojave not being able to protect nelson, nipton, within it's own borders, the corruption and spies you interact it, to ncr heroes sabotaging their own efforts so they lose to the legion and go home, to them not ordering a single troop to go hunt down the escaped convicts, to first recon to forlorn hope troops constantly demoralized and having no faith in command, to the talk of brahmin barons running the whole damn thing, the whole game is littered with evidence telling the player the ncr (good guys) are incompetent,
>leadership is fucked
we were talking about the ncr being the clear and obvious good guy choice and the game not being as morally complex as it attempts to be. try to keep up.
the moral complexity is in how much the PLAYER (You) value your morals over practicality, the ncr will likely fail in the long run
the moral complexity of the game doesn't come from the factions, it comes from the players choice in best option
mindbroken zoomer tape-recorder
It is represented in a lot of stuff surrounding the Crimson Caravan, who are almost as shady as the fucking mobsters on the Strip
>The NCR is the troops who have no choice or say in anything, not the corrupt Brahmin Baron's and government officials who are on their pay role!
it's not a question about how good the factions are morally, it asks the player how much do you prioritize morals over efficiency and pragmatism. The whole game makes the case that while the ncr are "good guys" they are stretched too thin to function (the game blatantly shows this in the very first conflict to the last), and they will crumble under their own weight and success and california will suffer for it.
Unironically thinking new vegas is a game about good vs bad and moral greyness, retard it's about how much your values are worth, go back to fallout 3 and 4, i hear you can blow up a town in one of those
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FNV always bash F3 for being morally simple but at least F3 is honest about being morally simple. While FNV pretends it’s morally complex when it’s actually not
you already said that you dipshit npc
I am not wrong though
unironically i put more contemplating my choices into lily's questline than the entirety of fallout 3, and that's not even technically a quest
F3 is chad because they are honest about Enclave’s atrocities.
>Atrocities.
Getting rid of mutants including ghouls that will eventually turn feral is bad?
Writers of Fallout 3 said Enclave was an analog to Nazis and Fascists so yeah that anon is right about Fallout 3 writers not fucking around when it comes to black and white morality.
when it includes every human wastelander, turning the wasteland into a graveyard like the ending slides directly state, yeah
>retardedly repeating yourself
you already got btfo by dagoth-poster
No morrowtard, no one cares about any of this shit.
You can blow up the NCR and Legion in NV you retard, do it before the strip and they'll kiss your ass as well. If it's a game about values the Legion shits the bed everytime
>If it's a game about values the Legion shits the bed everytime
it's not about values, it's about how you prioritize values over being functional, but you wouldn't know shit about that
Lol that's the message you got from the game? Not only is that fucking retarded, you're telling me you think the Legion is the functional option over the NCRs values? The people who LARP the civilisation that literally crumbled in on itself. Absolutely braindead
>you're telling me you think the Legion is the functional option over the NCRs values
i don't know why you are framing it that way, im not speaking moron here
I AM SAYING, that while the ncr had good values they aren't as functional and efficient or as stable as factions with lesser values
>The people who LARP the civilisation that literally crumbled in on itself.
rome died due to multiculturalism, the legion gets rid of diverse cultures. if they werent luddites using spears they would be unstoppable.
They aren't even really luddites. Centurions you fight at Hoover Dam are using the same AM rifles that NCR ranger vets use
Every gun the Legion uses is looted off of dead NCR soldiers
no, the Legion uses a lot of guns that the NCR doesn't even carry. the White Legs got all their guns from an abandoned US Army armory, Legion probably does the same thing.
not alot of the time and it's viewed beneath them because they are larpers
cept lanius, he's based
Rome died because they thought they could take over the planet without pissing people off. That's what happens when you have a society of dumbasses with a superiority complex
To the contrary they tried to cater to the cultures of their conquered territories instead of forcing total assimilation as the Legion does
Good post
Caesar’s Legion was supposed to be depicted as ruthlessly efficient. Unfortunately their half of the map / game wasn’t finished because ye olde Obsidian was not a ruthlessly efficient game studio (see: KOTOR 2), so their side of the not-really-about-morals battle is ultimately weaker, and they just look like LARPers who shouldn’t be able to take on the NCR at all
true, wish fnv had another year in the oven, would still probably choose house overall
>morrowfag having a conversation with himself again
no. NCR is unironically evil while Legion is the bitter pill to swallow. House and Independant are evasion but Ulysses redeems them.
>Legion is the bitter pill to swallow
Legion is primed for failure, what the hell are you talking about? Everything they have is based entirely on looting from others. Once they have no other to loot from, they have no plan. They aren't planting farms or doing anything else to establish the bare minimum for when they finish looting. Their lack of education will be the death blow since they won't be able to figure out how to fix the situation they find themselves in.
Just because the NCR are failures and retards doesn't make the Legion any less of a dead end.
That's Lanius' Legion. You're falling into the dumb pol trap of is it le efficient rather than the philosophy behind the factions and why it is inherently the only faction that has an answer, while the NCR will NEVER be able to answer the question. The question is the Great War, the answer is how to prevent it again.
So the bitter pill is that Legion will destroy and enslave the one thing that separates humans from animals by means of forced homogeneity, emphasis on sacrifice and collective good: which all prevent cause AND effect of the Great War. NCR guarantees the opposite, by the promise of a hypocritical freedom with nonsensical tribalism of all kinds: jingoism, cronyism, naive patriotism, reactionism - which guarantees the disunity, hatred and stupidity that causes the Great War.
Finally Ulysses can only give the you the goal and the promise to do better, by telling you what you are fighting for and how to win it: by changing minds and by literally being the protagonist - someone who affects the world around him.
>That's Lanius' Legion
not that anon but it's always going to be lanius's legion, and part of what makes lanius so interesting is that he actually doesn't see the legion the way caesar does, when caesar dies it's over
>when caesar dies it's over
why would that be? he's unarguably a strong military leader and his men both fear and respect him, so do his enemies
brain tumor, or simply old age. Rome had the same problem, they had maybe three good emperors, and without a good emperor the problems kept stacking until it got too big for it's own good, ironically the ncr is similiar
No lanius doesn't want to rule, he wants fight thats the problem, he's know Augustus, it's like graham said
*No
iwas talking about lanius, why would the legion change in any meaningful way when he dies? they were a militarist faction when ceasar the supposed scholar and an intellectual was in power and they'll be an even stronger military faction with lanius
He’s humans retard he’s not immortal, even if you ignore the shit with the brain tumor Caesar is 58 at the time of FNV not exactly young eventually he’s going to die and take all of his ideals with him since no one in the legions understands what he’s going for with all the shit about Ancient Rome and dialectics
>no one in the legions understands what he’s going for with all the shit about Ancient Rome and dialectics
the average person does not have to understand the core philosophy of their founder in order to perpetuate it, the elite of society also doesn't have to, and often doesn't anyway. all they have to do is participate in the culture he laid out for them, if they do that, the Legion lives on, pure and simple.
Lanius is a good military leader and would run the Legion fine, Vulpes is very cunning and would be an excellent schemer but his talent at actually commanding an army is untested.
Lanius is a retarded brute that can only lead troops and fight with no mind for governance, and Vulpes while being more intelligent is a coward who can only achieves his goals through underhanded tactics and subterfuge. In order for the Legion to have a chance they would need to work together but given how they are they would both rather die. Elites sure but the leader itself especially in a nation like the legions which is still pretty new and has had only one leader would absolutely need to understand Caesar’s mentality. To them it just looked like might makes right, no one cares that Caesar wanted to make New Vegas into his Rome or how that would change the legion to them it would just be another conquered city/tribe and they would just keep moving forward amsjs
>no one cares that Caesar wanted to make New Vegas into his Rome or how that would change the legion to them it would just be another conquered city/tribe and they would just keep moving forward amsjs
just a few quick conversations with some of the named legionnaires at the fort completely dispels all of this.
>Lanius is a retarded brute that can only lead troops and fight with no mind for governance
completely asinine, contradictory statement. if you can manage people well in war, then you are talented with logistics, running a nation, especially a totalitarian one, is logistics.
>just a few quick conversations with some of the named legionnaires at the fort completely dispels all of this
No it doesn’t they think Caesars doing it for the sake of conquest and to teach the “profligate” they don’t understand anything about the dialectical shit to them it’s just another fight
>completely asinine, contradictory statement. if you can manage people well in war, then you are talented with logistics, running a nation, especially a totalitarian one, is logistics
No, leading troops and governing are two totally different things, Lanius knows nothing of agriculture, economic, or social policy. Not to mention Lanius just leads the troops. He doesn’t deal with supply lines or any of the other logistical shit, he just leads and fights he not a great general on par with Caesar (Historical) he a loyal dog that will follow whatever Caesar (game) tells him because he doesn’t want another fuck up like with Graham
Lanius and Vulpes both show respect for each other you tard
No they don’t retard, they only begrudgingly work together because it’s Caesars will. In reality they fucking hate each other, Lanius hates Vulpes for being a sneaky coward and Vulpes hates Lanius for being a Retarded brute that only sees problems as nails for him to.
Not even. Lanius can be talked into the understanding that trying to take the Dam would be a Pyhrric victory for the Legion and emburden them with the same problems the NCR currently faces. Lanius is not a mindless raider, he simply believes in using methods even more brutal than Caesar. That the Legion is practically the same no matter if Caesar survives his operation is testament to Lanius's determination in carrying out the vision of his master
Caesar is obviously grooming the Courier to be his replacement. 10 Intelligence Courier siding with Caesar is objectively the best ending.
that's my point, the legion is dependent on who's in charge, once they die everyone has to have their fingers crossed that the next leader will be good, and after caesar is gone there will be backstabbing and blah blah rome 2.0
After Old World Blues, the Courier is functionally immortal.
no he really isn't he will live to maybe 80 at best
>Metal Bones
>Impants up to wazoo
>House tech
>BigMT
Dude, the Courier could easily live forever if he wanted
one those idiots in the big mt don't have the kind of tech that can make someone live forever, unless you count brainbotting someone, the legion would never follow or respect a brainbot.
And why the fuck would house ever give you his tech if you are working with the legion, they are worse than the ncr to him
>And why the fuck would house ever give you his tech if you are working with the legion, they are worse than the ncr to him
>giving
Lmao, imagine being a bootlicker to a man who will drop use as soon as you become useless to him
>Lmao, imagine being a bootlicker to a man who will drop use as soon as you become useless to him
house needs the courier because he's the most competant human he's ever met, and on top of that low karma courier canonically puts the fear of god into house and will keep him as his right hand man for as long as possible, and the courier is the only other person that can even change house's mind on things, house is not confident enough to ever make a move on him so their partnership is very sustainable
and forgot to mention high karma courier is respected and admired by house
those implants aren't about prolonging life just combat efficiency, and after all the wear and tear i don't see the courier making it out of his 60s
If he keeps all the implants, his brain has the ability to stay alive remote-controlling his body from Big MT for at least 200 years until it gets dementia, and organ failure isn't a risk since all his major organs are robotic.
and in 200 years the legion will be fucked, the legion has legs to outlast the ncr but not for that much longer, eventually it will fail
>Yeah the entirety of Caesar's Legion will die when he does. There's no way an entire state filled with tribals or small towns (many of whom were self-sufficient already prior to being forcibly inducted into a massive regime) would ever fracture, balkanize or reunify again. All of them will just immediately aggro one another and start fist-fighting to death because I walked into Caesar's tent, activated VATS with 10 Luck and then left with a stealth boy. You see this one action affecting this one man is all that's necessary to tear down a society of probably somewhere close to 100,000 people. Real life is like World of Warcraft where when you kill the raid boss all the littler mobs just despawn. We just have to do that with Caesar. That's really actually how it works, in real life even. I am extremely intelligent.
>Real life is like World of Warcraft where when you kill the raid boss all the littler mobs just despawn. We just have to do that with Caesar. That's really actually how it works, in real life even. I am extremely intelligent.
more or less yes, it will eat itself from the inside
I think if killing Joe Biden destroyed America someone would just poison his ice cream and be done with it.
america is not rome, the legion will fall the same way rome did
The Legion is also not Rome and the reasons for Rome's collapse are being specifically avoided by Caesar
and caesar's attempts to remedy and avoid that problem will inevitably be fucked up by a successor down the line
Unlikely actually. The specific thing I am referring to is Caesar's choice to destroy the cultures of those he conquered and assimilate them into the Legion. The longer the Legion lasts, the higher the likelihood of successors for which the Legion is all they have ever known, who have no attachment or affinity to other cultures
yeah, no state in history has ever collapsed due to the local strongman leader dying at the wrong time, very unrealistic
Remember when Caesar died so Rome instantly collapsed, never became powerful again and we don't even remember it existed?
he's not talking about Julius Caesar retard
when augustus died, it was like rome had just been diagnosed with cancer
What you're trying to say is right, but the points you made are so retardedly wrong and bad its incoherent.
Legion tribals were barely self-sufficient (Caesar mentions this) only the townies which were Denver levels of recent.
The entire modus operandi of the Legion is that their culture is specifically annihilated to become one tribe in Legion (see Hanlon quote), your fracture balkanize reunify point is retarded and barely connects to topic.
And yes many nations have collapsed entirely when key leaders who are ideological champions die.
>the faction larping as an old world thing will not fall in the same pit as the ones they larp as
This is where Legion is no different to NCR
>The question is the Great War, the answer is how to prevent it again.
>So the bitter pill is that Legion will destroy and enslave the one thing that separates humans from animals by means of forced homogeneity, emphasis on sacrifice and collective good: which all prevent cause AND effect of the Great War.
You are full retard to believe there will be ANYTHING left to live off of once the Legion has finished looting everything. THEY AREN'T GROWING MORE FOOD. I put that in caps since you seem to forget people need food to live. The Legion will prevent another Great War by killing off humanity period. You can wax retarded about philosophy as much as you like, but without food there is no future for the species. Neither the Legion or NCR can properly supply the survivors of the great war with enough food to allow for actual growth. Neither can supply enough for their own fucking troops. They are both equally worthless at supplying the most basic of building blocks for any civilization. And you're a fucking retard who thinks beliefs will be more important than the reality of survival to people in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
They will just eat the female slaves. Checkmate NCR!
why would they not have food? and why would the legion need to produce the food? they have farmers living in their territory for that purpose
Baffling. Are you that poster that made the take that no growth = collapse because economies depend on growth or something? That's both a meme and retarded.
There are both in game and lore that shows food is a problem to NONE of the nation-building factions. The Dam specifically provides fresh water - which is the only consideration in the wasteland. Soldiers themselves are implied to be adept at foraging as you would expect: each of them littered with only contextually valuable items like Purified water and foraged foods like mesquite, prickly pear, munchfruit etc.
The series' entire premise IS the idea. There is a reason that despite being the knight in shining armor for his home/faction/tribe, the first Fallout protagonist was fucking banished as reward for all his good. (And why the Vault did fall despite having resources)
the legion will fall too, as did rome did without octavian, it'll be slower than ncr's fall but it's inevitable, House and the courier are the only way
I dont think NCR will fall, only their expansion east will. Now legion without ceasar is doomed to fail
i say this every time someone talks about how new vegas is just good guys versus bad, based post
midwit middle-grounder.
What the fuck do you mean? This has nothing to do with my centrism, we're talking about what the game is and isn't about. It is decidedly not a game about good vs evil nor grey morality.
yes. the take that: it isn't about morality but muh efficiency. its midwit. and it is middlegrounding between "new vegas is just good guys vs bad guys" and "its.. le morally complex"
morality and practice aren't separate, the point of either is one and the other. and at the same time, there are absolutes in what is both efficient and what is moral without contradicting either. NCR is precisely evil because of its impracticality, evil precisely because its practice betrays its ideals. Legion is necessary specifically because of its intent in answering the challenges of the new world and its defense against the old. House and Independant are either childish or heroic from its desire to evade the question entirely or it's conviction to pursue an ideal of its own
Its so effocient burning all that medical equipment except that machine to cure brain cancer for caesar
>inventing lore
the Legion don't destroy technology they just don't believe that old-world gadgets that cannot be manufactured with currently-available methods should be relied upon.
of course Caesar makes an exception for himself, why wouldn't he? so his rule can come to a premature end? now THAT would be retarded.
That is hipocresy and one of the reason the legion sucks all that hardcore survivalism and they think like boomers or the average hardcore dude of internet
After Caesar is dead and his Legion lives on championing the values he instilled upon them, it doesn't really matter if Caesar was a hypocrite or not, he is carefully constructing a culture around the Legion and it will exist long after his death, it hardly matters.
>they think like boomers or the average hardcore dude of internet
what the fuck does this even mean? there are no factories, no labs, no hospitals, relying on technology from these places relegates most of humanity to scavengers and thieves, teaching them instead to make their own solutions from available, reproducible means ensures a more stable society. this is not difficult to comprehend, it's like watching Thunder Dome and going "duhhh why don't they just use gasoline instead of methane me so smart."
>relying on technology from these places relegates most of humanity to scavengers and thieves
this is retarded "let's not use all this tech lying around because stealing from dead people is... LE WRONG"
>After Caesar is dead and his Legion lives on championing the values he instilled upon them
yeah they said the same thing with caesar and trajan
>After Caesar is dead and his Legion lives on championing the values he instilled upon them, it doesn't really matter if Caesar was a hypocrite or not, he is carefully constructing a culture around the Legion and it will exist long after his death, it hardly matters.
Caesar is not a hypocrite, his cancer simply can't be fixed with herbs.
Legion doesn't abhor technology, Caesar just wants to harden his men without it, so they can leave and prosper without it since they ain't getting tech in any reasonable capacity for a looooong time and as we've seen with our society, tech generally makes people complacent and overly reliant on it.
I also think people are shitting on Lanius way too much by claiming he can't follow in Caesar's footsteps. He's intelligent enough to understand that trying to grind over the Dam is dumb even if they take it, better to consolidate the Legion's holdings and afterwards when the Legion is far more centralized and the tribes have been fully "Romanized" then give it a go. The hard part was already done by Caesar, Lanius doesn't need to be as intelligent in order to preserve the status quo.
>Caesar just wants to harden his men without it, so they can leave and prosper without it
and when he dies this will be u[p to interpretation and will probably lead to either the increase of tech or the legion abhorring it
>I also think people are shitting on Lanius way too much by claiming he can't follow in Caesar's footsteps.
hence why there are completely different endings for everything depending on whether you choose caesar or lanius
This is true to a degree. Legion Assasins carry plasma grenades, theres an option to get E-Cell or MFC ammo from their Frumentari supply crates and they were going to have a deal with the Van Graffs. Then again they are troglodytes who willingly run around in football gear, who slit their own throats after charging an enemy with superior firepower and their “best” men were getting beat up by a female NCR Ranger who was starving, battered and weak.
>their “best” men were getting beat up by a female NCR Ranger who was starving, battered and weak.
she got killed by a mailman in my playthrough.
I honestly just don't see why the Legion trying to get an edge over the NCR makes them inferior somehow. they are trying to win a war by any means necessary, unless they find a way to start manufacturing their own energy weapons (which is 100% feasible according to the Gun Runners) they will probably just ditch the energy weapons or store them somewhere for future use.
which Caesar? Julius? Rome became an Empire, Julius won.
the argument is simple, if you use scavenged junk all the time, you will come to rely on it. coming to rely on scavenged bullshit makes you a scavenger, and scavengers do not contribute to permanent societies, they are nomadic, cultureless wastes of humanity.
no his twink heir octavian (auggy C)
No, you kind of need scavenging to make a society that is more advanced than hunter-gatherers. Even the Legion does it, I don't think they built their Football gear themselves.
>Even the Legion does it, I don't think they built their Football gear themselves.
>football pads = advanced medical equipment, energy weapons
>you need scavenging to make a society
House even disagrees. why even argue at this point if you're going to downgrade your points.
I'm not the one trying to argue that Caesar isn't a hypocrite
I am not either. I literally said at the beginning of this that it does not matter, no one cares if Caesar is a hypocrite except the gay Arcade Gannon. I am sure you would epicly own Caesar in an irl debate retard.
Yeah, great, everybody knows those things are intertwined, but what's important is what the game is about overall. Of course everybody is oversimplifying the conversation for this simpleton.
>pandering to the lowest denominator
ah, the NCR of FNV threads
He was the moron that started the comment chain you were specifically replying to so naturally he set the tone.
ahh, fucking sublime post.
Ganker is shit but it spits out some good stuff now and then
Not subtle.
Good post
yeah the ncr are good but they can't get shit done, House is the only option that is good in the long run
I usually just kill them both and go with Yes Man or House. I play a pretty combat heavy game though.
i think theres a whole town you can blow up, in one of the fallouts
https://vivanewvegas.github.io/intro.html
You WILL enjoy Obsidian animations that are somehow worse than Fallout 3
You WILL enjoy ADS that still relies on weapon skill to actually shoot where you're aiming
You WILL enjoy doing a lap across whole map to get to New Vegas
You WILL enjoy doing every major side quest in the game as a filler for main story because of how ridiculously short main plot is
this game was made in a year in a half on a dead engine and it's still considered one of the best Fallouts
>on a dead engine
Yeah and it was still times less stable than FO3 and released unfinished despite reusing all FO3 assets.
>it's still considered one of the best Fallouts
According to Reddit, sure. Heckin' love the epic toaster of doom character xDDD
And remember those amazing schizo ramblings about da bear and da bull? He's literally like voices in my head xDDD
Your campaign to redeem Fallout 3 and slander New Vegas will never gain traction pick another hill to die on
Rent free
nta but oh look a mutt
You post this thread every day championing Fallout 3 you must be the only fan that game has left
>smileys
go back
>18 months dev time excuse again...
Josh Sawyer himself said that it was enough.
All Obsidian had to do was make Fallout 3 but more stable, yet they made one of the buggiest games in the franchise.
Cuckstar made Vice City in 9 months, which is bigger, better and more stable than III.
>Josh Sawyer himself said that it was enough.
Clearly it wasn't since he also said that he wished they had more time to flesh out the legion, make post-ending content and generally polish the game.
>You WILL enjoy doing every major side quest in the game as a filler for main story because of how ridiculously short main plot is
Are we talking about 3 here, too?
>You WILL enjoy doing a lap across whole map to get to New Vegas
>You WILL enjoy doing every major side quest in the game as a filler for main story because of how ridiculously short main plot is
open world game. exploring the world and doing sidequests is the point. who gives a shit about the main quest lol. the game literally ends with making a speech check to win.
Imagine being so brain dead you can’t sneak past the death claws or cazadores
>cant
its wont. why would i skip the side quests you do while traveling to new vegas? you said yourself the main story is too short, now its that you cant play it fast enough? zoomer adhd contradictionist behavior
>following a literal corridor game designers made for you is "exploring open world"
Gee, I sure love exploring those mile long invisible walls, Mr.Cuckwyer!
>poojeet doesnt know what "literally" means
Shouldnt have redeemed those english lessons, they didnt work out so well.
>REDDIT: THE OFFICIAL GAME
Install normal bug fix and optimization mods.
Install The Living Desert.
Install Functional Post Game Ending.
Optional: Install one of the New Vegas Redesigned mods, a weather mod, and Ojo Bueno
Yeah it opens up in the third act like the best black isle kino
best shoutgun gameplay ever
op is a fart
reminder fallout , fallout 2 and nv are the only good fallout games
This and morrowind are the only games a lazy slug such as myself can stomach, so you have to like it.
>he didn't use the viva new vegas modpack
oh no no no no
Here's something for you to "explore", bro. Just don't have too much fun in one go, save some for the rest of the map.
thanks bro, Helios ONE quest can net me some pretty good rewards, will do fren!
it's got good moments but despite Ganker-trarianism FO4 is a better experience in 2023
Yes, it's also supposed to have massive stuttering issues so you're forced to introduce yourself to nexusmods to fix it and learn how to mod the game into something remotely interesting.
Obsidiots: NEW VEGAS IS THE ONLY CANON 3D FALLOUT GAME
New Vegas: GUN GOES WOOF WOOF xDDD
Fallout 3: The karma gods have sensed your morality and sent a hit squad of the opposite karma
>kill some powder gangers
>zero witnesses
>POWDER GANGERS HATE YOU
Retard.
You have a rep with that group, you don't even see the Regulators in 3 they just pop up out of nowhere cause you're evil.
>IT'S DIFFERENT
Not really. If anything, I don't even point out that your argument about game's mechanics has absolutely nothing to do with Sawyer fucking up Fallout's lore worse than FO2 or Bethesda did.
It's impossible to fuck up the lore worse than Bethesda did they made Fallout 76
>sneak crit kill any faction member with no witnesses
>don't get found out and don't lose rep
??? sounds simple enough, retard.
this was the only way I was able to save the Gangers at NCR Correctional without pissing off the entire NCR. Steal some NCR armor when the raid arrives, then disguise and run outside to sneak kill the troopers raiding the place.
I just threw frag grenades at the Troopers. Didn't do enough damage to kill them, but left them so weak that the Powder Gang could mop them up. No reputation lost if you don't personally commit the killing blow but you still gain the experience if you do damage
wtf my powder gangers couldn't do shit against the NCR. Probably because I was running JSawyer rebalances on my playthrough.
a single grenade (at only 25 Explosive skill on Hard mind you) will not only remove like 75% of their HP but also instantly cripple most of their limbs. It's such a massive debuff that even the Powder Gangers WILL eventually win despite their much worse equipment
Only problem is the Troopers have a bad habit of running away and hiding after taking that much damage. I saw them run up the guard towers where most of Powder Gangers weren't scripted to be able to follow them
lets be real, you know that that is bullshit: I shouldn't have to wear legion armor and sneak crit kill an isolated group of legionnaires looking stupid as I crouch walk to do it (which is how I am playing it) - ghost town gunfight and other quests also specifically gives you weighted reputation loss.
SIRS HOW IS THE WEATHER IN KOLKOTA?
HAVE YOU REDEEMED THE SUNSHINE TODAY?
yes
Ganker doesn't actually play games
they'll shit gamebyro games like skyrim and fallout games and praising them through greentexts and then you go play them and it's like this
these people don't actually play games or care how it feels to play them, they just shitpost all day
You're clearly the gay that hasn't played the game and shitposts about it on Ganker when your only argument is the shittiest Fallout 3 gameplay you could find.
i played nearly all gamebryo games since morrowind
they all suck to play
your idea of "engaging storytelling" is some npc whose face looks like a pie and moves like the most rudimentary automaton allowing you to click a button to pass a speech check, and if you don't then you use some shit feeling gun to kill him in the jankiest combat ever. even the "high tech" guns like lasers feel like absolute shit to use compared to the most basic glock in actually playable games
terrible animations
plethora of bugs
soulless sterile engine
laughably barebones storytelling
combat that feels like trying to paint a picture by using a rusted wrench and your hands have arthritis
morrowind is the only halfway good one
True freedom is finally realizing morrowind is as bad as the rest.
>Fallout: random encounters on the map
>Fallout 2: random encounters on the map
>Fallout Tactics: random encounters on the map
>Fallout 3: random encounters on the map
>Fallout New Vegas: no random encounters, only triggers that depend on your faction reputation
>Fallout 4: random encounters on the map
>Fallout 76: random encounters on the map
Yeah, I'm thinking it's shit. It's like Witcher 3, the world is just an empty lifeless filler between dialogues. And no, game making you feel valid doesn't make it good, nor does it make you pass.
>Fallout New Vegas: no random encounters, only triggers that depend on your faction reputation
The good thing is that you can fix it with mods because the base itself is good. I just had an event where a legion group was doing an ambush for a trader caravan but then an another separate trading caravan approached from the opposite direction and they joined in on the fight so it was just an all out battle between the two caravans and the legion group. Now for FO3 and FO4, no mods exist that fixes the abhorrent writing, factions and dialogue so you're SOL with those games
>mods will fix it
>because the base itself is good
That's some nice cope, military issue from Ukrainian black market, I bet.
Unironically yes, the mods that make melee-using NPCs sprint makes them an actual threat. My usual cowboy run is a lot harder because the lever-actions and revolvers reload slowly so I often can't kill every legionnaire before one is up in my face crippling two of my limbs. The best part is that's not even unrealistic so muh machete fags get BTFO.
What am I supposed to see in that webm?
That is definitely some gameplay of Fallout New Vegas, anon. You make a great point
This is why Living Desert is such a good more for New Vegas. I cannot stop shilling it enough, but fucking use the Viva New Vegas modlist. Vanilla is fucking shit and the true potential of this game can only be realized through Viva New Vegas.
Bethesda are overrated as fuck and probably ruined Fo but New Vegas is better than 3. The sole fact Bethshit keep trying to shove their shitty stories in your face makes NV better, "oh my gooood look it's your dad, wtfbbq he's leaving the vault and he's Niam Leeson oh god don't you really want to get invested in this goodness gracious...........oh my god YOUR SON GOT STOLEN FROM YOUR WIFES ASSRMS JESUS ANON YOUVE GOT TO CARE SO MUCH" *decade before this* "yeah you're kinda' just the errand boy but oh my gracious epic gen x nerd wet dream Star Truck guy saw you in your dream and -oh wait jezus is that sEAN bEAM!!11 Oh my god as the player you must care so much" fuck off "uh you were shot in the head and had this chip on you, go retrace your steps or don't, peace."
>78 replies
>only 30 unique IPs
>realistically like 10 users recycling their residential VPNs
>all of them discord weirdos trying to gaslight Ganker into hating a game everyone knows is fine
>all so you can slip in redunant le chud hate (the actual goal; they want to dilute complaints so you reflexively ignore actual critique of chud insanity)
What a sewer
It would be worrying if you weren't clumsy retards who make it all so painfully obvious
>everyone is crazy but me
schiz chud
>they want to dilute complaints so you reflexively ignore actual critique of chud insanity
>now the schizo is replying to himself
i thought trannies like new vegas? wtf more chud revisionism now?
indian_fucking_other_indian_grandpa.webm
You're proving him right with every post lmao go ahead and dump the rest of your chud NV images we've already seen them all
Look how fast he replied to you, must have scared him. Anyways it's confirmed these shitposters are from r/gamingcirclejerk and are literal trannies.
inb4 a baker's dozen asspained replies because you called them out
>Talon Company
>Little is known of their history. In 2277, they are working for an unknown third party, with simple orders: keep the Capital Wasteland a lawless, disorganized place
>Fallout 3 writing
Ganker has always preferred FO3.
Both are shit. Every game Bethesda and Obsidian have ever made is shit. I'm not choosing between two pieces of trash.
>THOSE BECHOD BASTERD JANNIES DELETED MY LAST THREAD
You are 10 years late morongay. I had oldfags tell me that fallout 1/2 are better games than NV (they are not, not even story wise) because of their nostalgic feelings. Similarly, I had lots of fun with NV several years ago when I was younger and it was still tecnically acceptable, and so I'm inclined to overrate it, but at least I've that little bit of introspective capability to understand why I'm biased, while the rest of its fanbase tends to be composed by screeching chuds
>painfully and obviously doesn't fit in
>falseflags discord to not look like a discord chud
>samefags after accusing others of doing so
I really tried to like New Vegas, but I agree with you, OP. It's pretty dull.
I just enjoy fallout games, arguing over which is better is the domain of trannies and women
same but I do prefer NV givast majority of posts arguing read like the've never been here before
Legion being left unfinished really hurt the final game. It's a bit silly how everybody talks about how concerning the Legion is when they barely have any presence at all in the actual game. Most of the major locations you visit in the game are either occupied entirely by the NCR or have the NCR as a major part to them whereas Legion specific locations are very sparse and small little camps. Also a large chunk of the game's major characters/quest givers are NCR.
Ironically this the NCR a near perfect parallel of modern day America
>The NATO Avengers will stop Darth Putin from his ILLEGAL invasion to protect our democracy and rules-based order!
I don't like any Fallout at all, but I did enjoy this one. Maybe you should give it a try
>you'll probably really care about your son
nah/nope
ttw was fun it made me come to terms with my Indian and chud hate. Guys I'm coming out as retarded (I'm a genius btw)
>install TTW
>unironically feel gaslit because the FO3 world space is shit, the DLC is shit, the enemies are damage sponges (made worse with DT/DR), the guns are shit, the lore an anachronistic or shallow and the only enjoyment I got out of running through it was raping Princess
I speedran fo3 main story then went right to new vegas with power armor training. Maybe next playthrough I will actually play through most of fo3 side content. I only played ttw because i wanted fo3 weapons and armor. combat shotgun my love
>combat shotgun my love
not him but the sound effects of combat shotgun are pretty kino even if the model is retarded.
it make cool sound and its viewmodel is nice. the riot shotgun view model is to small for my liking.
I like the model for riot better, you know, actually having a shotgun model not some clobbered weird thing, and i agree that it has interesting sound, but i prefer more grounded and realistich shotgun sound, but thats me
Shit taste, the PPSh shotgun eddition is just the dumbest weapon in all games ever. Now Riot Shotgun... pure sexy beast
Isn't this the chud game? Makes sense it would be shit.
Indian IPs should be banned on Ganker
Bad morning sir
OH NO IM ABOUT TO chud OUT IS THAT 130 POSTS AND ONLY 39 EYE PEES AHHHH kek
I unironically started liking NV from all the butthurt treads by the poo shitters lately
where did it even become known that this guy is indian?
In one of the earlyest fo3 with gigachad image edit treads OP admitted to shitting in the streets
i've jumped ships on my favorite fallout, i like nv
what retexture is that PLEASE SOMEONE HELP, the default ranger armor looks ass
I think it's FNV4
But there's a bunch of choice, ADAM if you don't mind 34 plugins or the HD ones
fnv4 ncr ranger on nexus, enjoy your playthrough
could be ADAM but it honestly looks too good for me to fully believe that. maybe it was updated.
What brought this on?
quality of life mods i guess, i don't really know, i've gone back in forth with friends about fallout 3 being a better game with peak atmosphere and map, hunting for legendary weapons, and the exploration was just better but i guess i started appreciating fnv when i started playing it like an rpg, maybe it was because this playthrough was after trying to get through fallout 1 and 2
I liked NV more before but the experience did dramatically improve after playing the originals it gave context to a lot of the things going on, as well as deeper understanding of the whole setting. Also the rpg is thing is interesting, I’ve been noticing that when people play 3 & 4 they don’t play it as an rpg and when people play NV in the same manner they end up hating it. Like the pajeet that’s always posting these threads thinks that exploration not role playing is more important, IN AN RPG
like i've heard the meme and ill admit it, i cringe at the idea of roleplaying in a game, but i gave it a shot and new vegas made me feel like a director on a film set, like it saw what i was going for and recognized my character in this story and setting
I tried roleplaying in Fo4 without mods and I had to break the game to get it right. I still cannot believe you can't convience Danse to take out the Brotherhood, not only got instantly hostile at me for defending him, no dialogue even though I had our affinity maxed, but he followed me to the end of the world without being even able to kill him for some reason.
Then I have absolutely no idea why you can't stablish an aliance between the Minute Men and the Railroad naturally, it makes zero fucking sense you can't work something out there, they don't even give you a good reason against it.
Well, I managed to do everything I mentioned, but I had to glitch the fuck out of it because Todd didn't think this shit through.
Role playing in Fallout 4 was gimped from the start, first with the fact that the SS is voiced and has an established past and background that take front stage for the main story. Next the gutted the skill system completely making everything based on the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats and Perks then you have as you mentioned the shit with the factions. Like how you become either the leader or top super special person after a few quests. Not to mention the factions never really interact or even really acknowledge each other throughout the game until the very end
bastard benchod play fallout 3
Bastard bloody bastard bich do not redeem chud wega, sir
>He's never fought Deathclaws naked with two bottles of Nuka Cola level 1
Filtered.
bros I downloaded new vegas again, what mods go well with vicious wastes?
idk what that is, but if i wasn't a lazy laptop using fuck, id install all the combat mods, they look pretty good
The Roy Batty mods, BLEED and BURN? I dunno if those are for pure NV or TTW, but check them out.
New Vegas is so fucking empty. I'm not going to compare it with other Fallout games because they're even worse but I always forget how empty NV is and get disappointing when I replay it
There's so little content in the early game. Goodsprings, Primm, Mojave Outpost and Novac should've had more sidequests
my last playthru where i talked to every npc read every terminal and explored everything was almost 100hrs and i quit at the last DLC
on a surface level, sure it doesn't have as much content as fo3, but the content is interesting enough that it entices me to read every random note i find, i also re-played fo3 shortly after and didn't feel the same way about it, and quit it somewhere during broken steel after only having completed operation anchorage and skipped most of the optional content
Not like 3 has a lot of optional content to begin with, it only has 17 side quests.
it definitely has more content than FO3, but the early game is still really empty
To be fair, that can be said of every single Beth title, not just Fallouts.
Is there anything you'd point out where it is empty? Like skipping the tutorial literally gives you a kino betray powder gangers prison raid questline, you can start killing cazadores as early as level 10 and make your way to the Khans, Vault 19 and Outer Vegas on a specifically normal playstyle too.
game design is really brilliant, there are so many routes to go from point A to point B in the open world, without it feeling like you're walking literal off border map - which funnily enough I did on this game.
Josh Sawyer won
New Vegas won
Pentiment won
too bad nobody played pentiment, shows that the hype around dysco was fake and and didn't attract the audience to its genre
>shows that the hype around dysco was fake
Disco is one of the best selling RPGs of all time, it outsold PST by a lot. Obsidian just makes bad games.
I eat cheese and nuts as snacks or lazy meals because of Pentiment, though lets not pretend it did not have hacky forced monologue from Illuminata and that black Roman priest.
Because 99% of the 'memories' are just memes
In Fallout 3 people remember exiting the fault, fighting the Behemoth, etc
In New Vegas it's 'wooo theoretical physics meme' or 'ayyy it's da elvis people'
Alice isn't a meme.
>babys first rpg
You have a point. I wonder if most of the NVfags are literally just playing their first open world game and think it's 'kino' that there are many epic jokes
I'm actually struggling to remember any character that was well done in the game. The exception of Sunny and that's about it really. And even then it's just because Sunny was part of the absolutely shit tutorial it's obvious they hoped you played Fallout 3 first
>People remember the first five minutes of real gameplay and the Brotherhood capeshit moment
The Falloutslop, everyone.
Meanwhile in New Vegas: WOOO I AM A LESBIAN!!!! WOOO I AM A GAY MAN!!!! HAHAHA WE EAT PEOPLE!!!! HAHAHAHAHA I AM ELVIS
So basicaly Shitsidian insert memes and Bethesda insert gameplay? Seems logical
>AHAHA WE EAT PEOPLE!!!!
My favourite Fallout 3 moment, btw.
Ah, xe/xir is trying to troll I see
>T-THAT DOESN'T COUNT, OK!!!!!
Imagine being this assblasted
>me like game
>game becomes popular
>me hate game now
You guys are literally npcs, you form your opinions according to exteral stimuli from random people
You don't want to have an actual discussion about why it's bad, you just want to keep playing the same garbage forever.
Of course not, because it's the opposite of bad and i dont give a shit about you
>NOO I NEED TO CONVINCE YOU THAT THIS THING YOU LOVE IS ACTUALLY BAD
Fucking lmao
And besides, it's not like anything better has come out since.
What do you want us to play? Fagspoken?
How do you play this game, bros? Because I don't
Yes, notice how no one ever talks about the gameplay.
oh yes, gameplay, gunplay weapons were absolutely godawful in NV. Most of uniques were also useless meme weapons.
You're insane. People always talk about their favorite builds, weapons and stuff.
>boring?
Not at all
>clunky?
Mods fixed it
I would be more accepting of trans individuals if they did not play garbage like New Vegas.
NV has different weapon models for uniques whereas FO3 doesn't, therefore NV is superior.
Simple as, really.
first act is weak and i recommend modding the gameplay, new vegas is probably the most modded game ever made
I use TTW so I can play both
>i use a mod that tried to make it so if you pirated either version, it won't run
>I use a mod that refuses to use any mods they don't claim are 'balanced with the developer's vision' while modding the fuck out of balance in the first place
>I use a mod that the developers claim is the only correct way to play both games despite admitting their failed programmers
>I use a mod that attempted to make it paid only on Patreon
ok
I just instalked an im pissed the fags wont bother to put the necesary mod in their slow as crappy installer also i remember older builds fixed the crappy fallout 3 rng speech checks
what happened to TTW? I uninstalled after I beat it and went back to regular modded New Vegas a little over a year ago. did they fuck with it?
Kinda now fixed speech checks doesnt work in dc
>I use a mod that refuses to use any mods they don't claim are 'balanced with the developer's vision' while modding the fuck out of balance in the first place
lol who cares? Most mods can be bootstrapped to TTW easy enough anyway. As for the rest of it, what mod others aren't gays? It's a good experience and your gay ass refuses it because of mod drama. That's pathetic.
Sorry, mod *authors
>Most mods can be bootstrapped to TTW easy enough anyway.
true but it requires extra effort, and for what? so you can play fallout 3? the game sucks, people are better off playing regular NV.
I personally think the New Vegas engine plus hard-core mode elevates 3 quite a bit. Add a simple diseases mod and the main plot actually feels substantial because of how valuable purified water becomes. It's not brilliant or anything but it is a pretty unique experience to carry a player character over from one game to another.
Besides that, my argument is less in favor of 3 being good or bad and more in favor of ever, ever giving a fuck about what modders do or say when deciding to use a mod. I don't know a single thing about any mod author I've ever downloaded from and I don't know why anybody would.
>Weekly F3 queers seething about NV
Man 13 years buck broken
DLC ranking:
>Honest Hearts
>Dead Money
>Old Word Blues
>Lonesome Road
Simple as.
god be with you
Personally I would put OWB below LS. Always felt like there was too much dialogue in Old world blues, which is understandable given the direction they went with that dlc.
I think Old World Blues has it's problems. Mostly the focus on energy weapons kind of screwing over melee and bullet builds (yeah you get options but the best option for OWB is energy weapons), but also like you said, the dialogue.
That said, Lonesome Road is basically just straightforward hallways which is just lame imo and quickly became a slog for me. At least OWB has a open world area.
Old world blues problem is lobotomite scaling and some roboscorpion problem
Lonesome Road >= Old World Blues >> Power Gap >> Dead Money > Honest Hearts
Old World Blues is underrated because of all the reddit jokes, but the groundwork it made for Lonesome Road is arguably better than Lonesome Road turned out to be.
Dead Money has a really good story but not really that deeply connected to the premise of Fallout: you can apply letting go to anything, not really the old world; Same problem for Honest Hearts but even less relevant to the game's premise.
Lonesome Road, though not as coherent fits the theme of New Vegas and Fallout the best, and it was by design.
OWB is overly praised on reddit and maligned here, all for the same reason of mismatched tone, stretch of the tech and the jokes but it does feature one of my favorite moments in gaming
You spend the entire DLC going after movies who's 100% the mad scientists from an serial vibe and it's very fun, but when you finally reach him both the dialogue the music and atmosphere all do a great job of disarming you
That's not a crazed up super scientist, it's a grandpa who needs help with his broken glasses and offers you some candy
The way you said it was so reddit I literally forgot whatever what literally posted in your post and am not even willing to read it again, something about favourite moments and subverted expectations.
For me, most of Ulysses' "America sleeps. And until it's dead, I carry it. Just like I carried you. More than hope. Belief"
Stop being a cynical fag and reread it. It's not about subverting expectations is the genuineness of the moment that sells it
>America sleeps. And until it's dead, I carry it. Just like I carried you. More than hope. Belief"
Shame that great phrase is associated with a terrible backstory
Its so funny if an enclave character heard that phrase of a moron the dlc should have impacted with an atomic ending where you nuke hoover damn and made the world map a true postapocalypse
>dlc should have impacted with an atomic ending where you nuke hoover damn and made the world map a true postapocalypse
That's basically what avellone (recently settled his lawsuit btw) wanted, but I couldn't be property implemented, so the nukes are on this weird place where they're supposed to be death knell to the factions but no one in them seems to care
im not being a cynical fag when i read(now twice because of your spergout) grandpa who.. le needs help with his glasses
really retard? i saw a noble man whose ingenius bloodlife littered the floors knowing no start nor end showing the confusion of an old world mind caused by his abuse of mentats in undertaking - all alone - the protection of a new world against the old world which he knew he had failed. his reward is that he knows nothing, and that all his efforts now hinges on a miracle of events
Moebius isn't caught in his own loop, you're wrong about that. He's just going senile through biogel degradation
So you misinterpreted a lot m retard
Install some mods then
>boring
it is much more akin to the original Fallout games, it is dialogue heavy and essentially a CRPG in first person. if that doesn't sound appealing to you, then I wouldn't suggest NV.
>clunky
a game from 2010 made in the Gamebryo engine is clunky? are you sure?
I also want to add that the game essentially requires mods to work properly. community made patch of your choice + stutter remover/tick fix is really all you need.
>community made patch of your choice + stutter remover/tick fix is really all you need.
also xNVSE, vorbis dlls, FNV edit to clean your DLCs, stewie's ini tweaks and engine fixes.
fonv is a busted-ass game. but once you actually make it able to run and not crash it's an amazing game.
Reminder:
>Mobius: The first one, the ruthless one who smashed up our toy trains, asked for weapons, power. Items he could use to destroy a nation with force.
>Mobius: The other... the other asked a different question, and with it, got the true answer. About what makes nations... and what breaks them.
The amount of mental clarity it took to explicitly express this, along with it's sheer importance to the entire narrative of the series.. Anyone who understood this question and understood Lonesome Road's answer have massively improved their enjoyment of this game and were rewarded a lasting political message from the series
The themes and dialogue are great but Lonesome Road fails in execution
Like someone said, OWB hypes a better LSR than LSR was
h-huh thats literally what my post said... did someone else already say it?
This anon
NV character power ranking
graham>courier 6 = Lanius>house>elijah>ulysses>thinktank>
The only person who can actually enter Lucky 38 to kill House > House > who cares
House is a mummy gay with tv bitches and robocops that k can rape it the moment i got an emp weapon and the skill to bypass his defenses
>casually invents things that arent canon to win
ok i use my magic button to make all my enemies hearts stop instantly
moron you literally have a quest sbout convincing the brotherhood power armor are useless by finding an emp weapon for veronica and emp 20gauge ammo
>ignores that the entire point of that quest is all the technology is worthless and it's all to demonstrate the brotherhood's isolationist hoarder policies are out-dated
You idiot said its fantasy and unreal killing so easily house in the game even with vanilla build no dlcs
i've killed graham plenty of times, why tf do people put him so high
Its a misterious bandaged biblically anime chunin also i think he is also too op as npc the fucker trickshotme with his oc 1911.45 once i tested to kill him
he two shots you, fighting him without vats or just shooting him point blank when he's sat down is just impossible
You're playing it without mods. Look up the mod guide "Viva New Vegas", that ought to fix your shit opinion.
I've made 8 attempts to play this game from start to finish and just couldn't get past the desert, there is nothing to see or do outside of a settlement since it's a orange empty garbage world.
you just described every fallout game
Ever notice how these games only attract idiots that want to screech about lore while using it as a 4chan allegory?
...dementia/senile. you forget what you are doing. it is the real life equivalent to the programming loop he imposed on his colleagues
>Fast Shot, Logans Loophole, Math Wrath, Action Boy x2, Nuka Chemist, Chem Perks, Implant GRX
>Befriend khans for Rocket and Jet supply.
>Sierra Madre for Infinite steady,
>Craft shitload of Nuka Cola Victory at lv 100 Survival
>Now you have something like 200 ap and you can shoot things 20 times from far away
thoughts on my build?
bros what happened that new vegas is a chud game, is it a rib or is there something substantive to the claim
Shitposting pure and simple. Back in the day the game drew in Ganker nuts more than anyone.
i dont know, fallout 3 fags needed something to shit on it so they use normies and trannies who also like the game to attack its merit, there was probably a chud who was gushing about it on twitter or something, they are obsessed with chuds
there are a lot of femboys that cling to this game. a large portion of the modding community is trans
glad they have some use then
A large portion of any active fanbase is trans. Modders and obsessive fans are usually terminally online, and being terminally online is the FIRST symptom of being a chud.
>terminally online fanbase turns out to be a bunch of mentally ill people
i could say this about pretty much any piece of media that isn't outright anti-lgbtq, new vegas isn't a particularly special case in this regard.
a lot of programmers and moders are trannies, games with huge modding comunities tend to attract trannies
the common thread there is just being terminally online, something that no one can fix but themselves (and they do at a rate of 41%)
>something substantive to the claim
The only relationship between trannies and fallout that I know is the one deranged trannie that has 26000 hours in F76
New Vegas was a very progressive game for its time. Most of the companions are lesbos/gays and many minor characters are lesbo/gay too.
>true
But I would chalk up the chud shit to the usual modern political brain rot and tumblr gayry. I’ve played NV multiple times and barely noticed or cared about Gannon or Veronica being gay mainly because it’s not that important like Gannon has a few lines about liking dudes and I think you only find out about Veronica through context clues and the dlc but I may be wrong. Mainly because them and all the other gay characters don’t really make a big deal out of it and scream about how much they love cock/pussy. And the only characters that do are Betsy who is only doing it as a cope and Jimmy who has to because his business relies on it
Cope and projection from a man who failed to live up to the Legion's standards
my bad, wrong image
>if you can manage people well in war, then you are talented with logistics, running a nation
graham runs circles around lanius and caesar, part of the reason caesar tried to kill him was because he was intimidated by him
graham>lanius>caesar>>>>>>>>
hater
The Legion is full of chuds.