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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kind of true, yeah. Consider all those low quality Command and Conquer clones that flopped and fell into obscurity. Or all the point and click adventures that no one cares about, like Gobliiins and Chronicles of the Sword.

    But it was easier for niche games to get made in those days. You didn't need a Kickstarter project to get Baldur's Gate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >low quality Command and Conquer clones
      i would kill for some "low quality C&C clones" these days.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2004
    >100+ good games
    >1000 shitty games
    2022-2024
    >2-3 good games

    [...]

    terrible games

    No, old games were better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Got it in one.
      And the good games would get a sequel in 2-3 years that was often just as good if not better, while nowadays it takes a the better part of a decade to make something even worse

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes of course it fricking is, people are now are just too fricking obsessed with revelling in the next big failure that they ignore all the good games

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >old bad games
    Name one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Superman 64

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      E.T.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bad Rats.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lords of the Realm 3

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any Disney license game for PSX.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hercules and Tarzan games were great.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eternal Ring

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    both sides are correct. the good games WERE better, but people definitely did forget the bad ones

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not because 99% of the people saying old games are better are zoomers desperately trying to fit in.

    Kinda like when teenagers say "music nowadays suck, i wanna go back to the time of Nirvana!".
    They are just posers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nirvana sucked. Alice in chains were vastly better.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My gaming started with my brother tossing me a console with all his old games so those were basically curated already. It really hit me when I started paying for games that they might be shit.
    That was the starts of my piracy years.
    That time ended when Warframe was released on Steam.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only half true. It's true that a lot of shit was forgotten, but it gets used as an excuse for new games being shit for some reason.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because even if I forgot the bad games, there still were plenty of good games that are remembered.
    I can remember maybe 3 games in the past 8 years that weren't dog shit, and one of them is actually more a VN than a game.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gameing peaked in the 80s

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on the metric by which "better" means and should be handled on a case-by-case basis.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that time filters the garbage is a good reason to avoid new vidya, books, and film

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong because of the time disparity and development costs

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most of the old games people remember as good are worse than most of the new games those same people think are bad. For example Ocarina of Time is worse than any random Ubisoft garbage

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i don't even like OOT and I know that this isn't true

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's objectively true by pretty much any metric you can think of

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Music? Of course you'll have to provide an example of a good track from "Ubisoft garbage" to back up your point

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Far Cry 5 has a famously excellent soundtrack

            >mobern ubishit is objectively better
            lmao you're a joke

            the post of a man who is absolutely terrified to even consider comparing oot to any modern game

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Far Cry 5 has a famously excellent soundtrack
              and the track you're using to prove that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol, thanks for proving OoT is better

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oot got mogged so hard that you can't even engage huh, I understand your scared cow is precious to you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your bait is weak, I'm sure this is the only human interaction you get so savour it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >completely gave up on defending oot
                sad!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe they're so assblasted about oot because something about it filtered them hard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can I join the OoT enjoyers support group too? Let's all sit around in a circle and talk about where modern games touched us

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never said you can't enjoy modern games but saying ubisoft has made anything good is just moronic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >terrified
              lmao. you fight the oot camera a lot less than in modern ubishit games because they always put in that moronic auto look forward for modern console homosexuals

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mobern ubishit is objectively better
          lmao you're a joke

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's good and bad old games and new games but it is true that the push to advertise and try to sell to larger and larger audiences has made games worse

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >in the before times: 8 or more good games released a year
    >In the now times: 2 or so good games released a year
    Hmmm....

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even the bad old games had 10 times the personality and creativity of live service slop, gacha slop, indie walking sim slop

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >live service slop, gacha slop, indie walking sim slop
      Yep these are literally the only games coming out

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong because of the time disparity, modern practices, politics and development costs affecting games to this state today

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    old games were better in the way that the bad ones at least tested your skill most of the time, while modern bad games just test how much boring shit you can slog through before deleting the game

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pointlessly overwriting Jesus
    israelite exposed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More likely a Christian, afraid to use Jesus as a meme, even anonymously.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yea
    same goes for dlc vs expansion packs

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    90% of creative output made in good faith tends to be shit, yeah.
    But the continuous consolidation, the alienation or corruption of talent, the shareholder/executive overreach and the completely bloated scope of all games post-2006 has basically clearcut all games being produced by larger studios.
    I can look back and cherrypick good games from all the old games, but there's slim pickings after 2010.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Right... but the good old games are still better.
    What a shit thread. OP I'm currently contacting your parents and suggesting they have your testicle removed.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is saying nothing. This may be the most pointless image in existence. The same can be said about new as well:

    >New games arent better, you're just choosing to ignore the bad ones that come out

    It's actually bugging me that someone took the time to make that image and thought they cooked.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Old games also had
    >less budget
    >less people working on it
    >worse technology that made it harder to make a game
    >less shortcuts in development like we have now
    Considering that modern games continue to increase in prices while simultaneously getting worse and worse, yes old games were better.
    There was shovelware on every console but they also spawned a multitude of timeless classics just tell me what PS5 will be remembered in 10 Years?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's moronic though, when people say
    >old games were better
    they're naturally only talking about the good ones and using those as a basis upon which to draw comparisons between what they remember and what is considered good today. nobody fondly remembers dogshit like back to the future on NES.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes it is yeah.
    And sometimes people look at mediocre things with rose tinted goggles...beyond good and evil comes to mind
    But for the most part alot or modern games also suck balls and alot of old ones still hold up.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is partly true and partly not
    It's true that a lot of dogshit came out back then and the internet wasn't as prolific as it is now to talk about them, but the real reason that era is remembered more fondly is frequency
    >A Final fantasy game back then: Made in a year >A Final fantasy game now: almost a decade to go from 15 to 16
    High profile franchises could throw out a bunch of entries in a really short time span, so it's natural that more would be better. It also cost a lot less. If 50 games came out back then and half were good that's 25 good games. Now it's more like 6 games in the same timespan, and if half of them are good it's only 3 good games.
    The problem nowadays is the ballooning budget and time costs. Because
    >gwafix
    Mind broke game companies budgets have shot through the heavens. Investors want to play it safe because that could be 500 million passed down the drain, Xbox's knees are buckling for this reason.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hit the nail on the frickin head right here.
      Been sayin it for years...gamecube/ps2 era. Was great because you could still afford to take a risk here and there. Once the budgets skyrocketed in 7th gen studios started folding left and right..and the next 2 gens got even worse.
      These days PC is basically the only real option if you want that kind of creative risky design

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've struggled for so long to accurately and non-ramblingly articulate my palpable disappointment with gen 7 that I remember feeling to some extent even at the time.
        >HD was going to be an exciting frontier for Xbox/Playstation!
        >motion controls would give is incredibly immersive gameplay experiences!
        >...wait hang on why did half my favorite franchises from the past couple gens suddenly either go entirely on the backburner this generation or just release nothing but spinoffs? I thought they did well, or at least okay...
        >and why did the other half either stagnate into template-tier low effort games or pivot into completely different shit that nobody asked for?
        Wii Sports, the broshooter explosion, open world games, and high-budget cinematic games all came together in the same timespan to irrevocably ruin gaming. And made even worse with the next generation seeing a deluge of companies going public, coinciding with shareholders being supplemented with tons of new-money spoiled brats who can't comprehend the concept of growth having limits.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The AAA model is moronic and is ruining the game scene.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Less than 10 years ago
    >Willing to buy at least 2 or 3 games a year. Solid solo offline experiences still happened.

    >Now
    >Literally everything coming out is always online microtransaction-riddled trash for morons with multiple hours of slowly walking and listening to people talk instead of playing a game

    OP is moronic and gay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop playing AAA games moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Solid indies are also getting rarer. FTL was 12 years ago. Infested Planet was 10 years ago. Slay the Spire was 7 years ago. Frick, Cave Story was 20 years ago.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Balatro?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          balatro, rogue trader, pizza tower, book of hours, void stranger, rusted moss, roadwarden, hrot, golden idol, signalis. just some random games off the top of my head

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          tevi, rabi-ribi, va-11 hall-a, hollow knight, last command, momodora 4 and 5

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares about the bad ones? There were more good games back then.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both sides of the argument oversimplify it. There are literal amazing genres that haven't had good releases in years, some even decades.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If this is true, why do they take all old games and Black personfy them?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why do they take all old games and Black personfy them?
      Such as?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Saints row comes immediately to mind

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The game about gangs? They millenialified it but do you seriously think the original game didn't have black people?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure there were bad games but the absolute biggest releases being massive disasters was never as common as it is now

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nobody said that there weren't old bad games. The fact is that old good games shit on new good games so hard it's insane.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >old bad games
      Name one

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fine, one person said there weren't old bad games.
        I stand by the rest of my statement.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you saying shovelware doesn't exist today?

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. There are simply too many bad new games to even try to forget.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh god I got to itto and paimon singing this is gay as frick please kill me

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are more good games now but less great ones.
    There is so much abhorrently broken old shit, games with huge bugs, flaws, and generally bad gameplay. The average game today is at least functional and has some effort in it but things are also smoother over for the mass audience now that titles with actual soul are rarer.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and where are the good games of today?

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lower budgets in previous generations meant developers could be far more experimental.

    Was there a lot of trend chasing and derivative potboilers? Sure, I remember living through people trying to get on the Zelda train after LttP and Ocarina of Time, the shooter rush after Goldeneye's explosive success, GTA clones, etc.

    But it also meant devs could crank out a game in a year or two, not just "hey here's our game see you next console generation" and it also cost hundreds of millions of dollars and not selling ten million copies meant everybody was filing for unemployment and COBRA insurance.

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