tl;dw
>Wata has been called out a year ago for manipulating vidya grading values
>only now the same games bought in the past provable trough barcodes get resold for a lot less
>for example graded original RE used to sell for $250k, now for $38k
>graded Zelda fell from $150k to $15k
>graded Pokémon fell from $20k to just $600
>people lost hundreds of thousands of dollars on one single game, millions if they had more
>they never even got to play it since graded games would lose their value otherwise
Good.
Fuck the speculative investors. Hope they rot.
FPBP. They can all burn in hell for turning EVERYTHING into a fucking money game. Absolute brain rot.
Good. Fuck the speculator merchants trying to do to games what they did to comics, fuck metaljesusrocks and his cabal of graders and ebay auction wretches inflating the prices. Games are made to be played not sealed in a resin block.
>not sealed in a resin block
Can they be extracted from them in a playable state or are they done for eternity?
they are intentionally retrievable because those retards will break the grading case when they get a low grade and just send the same exact copy to the same exact grader again in hopes of a higher grade
Jobst is a literal far right nazi larper and this entire series was motivated by his hate for israelites.
Wtf I love Jobst now?
oh no, not the group of people who specifically want to scam you out of your money! what a bad man he is for exposing them!
Based Jobst. I once scared a israeli couple away just because I also have a German last name. They know who to fear.
You know what else scares israelites? Naming them.
>Hey, are you israeli?
You know who else is "far right?" israeliteS.
Does this makes Billy one of ((them))?
>he doesn't know
Wow, now I really hope this homosexual goes bankrupt.
>@notch
>he's a israelite hating nazi
>New update available! Changing narrative...
>he's an islamophobic muslim hater
He looks like a israelite (almost white hair - you get to notice that it's often israelites).>Of course he'd be an "islamophobe" nowadays.
>cheats and profits from it
>when you call him out fot lying he cries out in pain as he sues you
Definitely
Is he far right? I haven't really heard much about him. I thought he was just older.
He's a chuddy chudcel chud too
I'm trans btw if that matters, chuds
You realize the israelites he called out a year ago won big on this regardless right? It's not like they are the ones sitting on games that has tanked in value now.
You god damn brain dead neanderthal what does the identity of the mailman have to do with the facts written on the newspaper?
It matters when the mailman and the person writing the newspaper are the same person.
Who the fuck isn’t “far right” according to you?
no point in collecting stuff because it might be worth money. imo you collect because you like to do it but that's just me.
i've no hallucinations that my bottle cap collection is worth more than the scrap metal. i just like the look of those
If it ain't a hustle, you are wasting your time and money, you aren't contributing to society, you are a failure. Loser. Get a hobby that pays. NOW.
Nah, fuck off Tate. A hobby is a hobby and nobody is obligated to turn it into a side hustle.
You guys are idiots.
No.
Yeah bro scamming people over collectible crap is totally contributing to society
I'm pretty sure that Anon was being sarcastic in mimicking the hustle culture bullshit.
t. 13 year old
Karl won. israeli businessmen lost. Dip Slurpers won.
israelites won, it was all the goyim cattle that got scammed thinking they would be rich buying videogames that were mass produced 2 decades ago.
>paying for old video games
what kinda sucker does this?
i do
10$ max though
But old video games are worth more than new ones. Because they're actually good.
I'd rather play Spider-Man on PS1 than PS4, soo...
I'd rather play Spider-Man on Genesis than on PS4.
Bagholders who think there will be another bagholder. Usually there is.
I only pay for cartridges, and only a handful of games that I really like and want to own a physical copy of.
>more slander
Cope karltrannies. Billy will win and your hero will ACK herself.
t. smartest billybro
Fuck yeah. A little late because I already have anything I could ask for, but it's still good to see. Maybe Game Boy Colors will no longer be $100.
>Oh no! People figured out that the made up arbitrary values for goods are actually completely arbitrary.
I wonder how many retards are going to be like "Finally! Now to build up that GameCube collection!" without actually watching the video.
>gamecube collection
>literally not even more than 5 games
I can name 30 without even trying, but you'll just respond:
>shit
>shit
>sequel
>tranny game
>shit
>ok
>shit
>shit
without even knowing what half of them are
Just try homosexual otherwise you admit the gamecube has no games. Just name 5.
ok:
Smash Bros Melee
Wind Waker
Mario Sunshine
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
>Bonus kino Robo games:
Custom Robo
Chibi Robo
Gotcha Force
>literally every game on another system but better except smelly and shit no one gives a fuck about
what system is melee, metroid prime 2, custom robo, chibi robo, and gotcha force on?
what system is sunshine on? (don't say switch port downgrade unless you wanna admit you prefer slop lmao)
>cannot read
>it's a downgrade because I said so despite it does not require a nintendo shitcube
>no one gives a fuck about those games because..
>because i said so, okay???
why do you console warrior like a retard about a console from 20 years ago?
okay but cope tranny
super mario odyssey is better than shitshine in every way
>super mario odyssey is better than shitshine in every way
if you're child who cannot grapple with complex controls and any sort of difficulty curve higher than "flat", I suppose
If your brain is so atrophied that you need a dopamine rush every 10 seconds for the design equivalent of picking up pennies, I guess
>no real argument
>illiterate moron seethes about 20 year old consoles
many such cases
>reddit phrases
>zoomer insults
>manchild brainfarts
>fart obsessive
>literal shit eating gremlin
mad cause bad at video games
>he says while defending a game with broken physics and levels the size of his mom
>broken physics
kek outed as a pleb
>levels the size of his mom
ah yes because odyssey is known for having such small levels
>poo poo pee pee
you really do be like that
too bad that's your entire argument as to why you think fisher price mario is good
>fisher price mario
...But that's Odyssey, the easiest 3D Mario game by far?
Shitshine introduced kid bowser for that alone its trash
A bad game that's too piss-easy that you might as well not bother playing vs a bad game filled with too much unskippable non-gameplay fluff and endless tedious collecting garbage but actually does have some challenge in some parts...
Hmm, which is the bigger turd? Tough call.
>Smash Bros Melee
Garbage
>Wind Waker
Shit
>Mario Sunshine
Are you fucking joking?
>Metroid Prime
lol
>Metroid Prime 2
lmao
kino Robo games:
>Custom Robo
Garbage weeb shit
>Chibi Robo
Trash
>Gotcha Force
Tranny shit
LOL way to prove me right and show there are no good GC games and you have no taste. No one should listen to you.
chibi robo looks more like tranny shit than gotcha force
it has the aura of tediousness only a true delusional retard would defend
As someone who's actually played it, chibi-robo is totally overrated.
This, gamecube games are extremely lackluster. chibi robo is a literal chore simulator and does nothing fun or interesting with its premise of being a tiny toy in a normal sized world. It's so disappointing, but that's all gamecube games for you, titles overrated by weird kids who's parents couldn't afford more than one console.
Gotcha Force is also terrible, you can literally beat the game with 1 button.
Yes, now is the time to pick up that selaed copy of Chibi Robo. For you, only $300
Finally! Now to build up that Gamecube collection!
Does anyone know any good ROM/.iso sites?
I opened up all my sealed Gamecube games on purpose right before I sold them. I even stated so in the auction description, just to dissuade speculator assholes from bidding.
and then everyone on the bus clapped
No, but I did see some speculator assholes on a forum seething. Too bad. No one wants to deal with you scammer fuckheads.
no you didn't lol
I did. 🙂
And before you say I lost a lot of money, I didn't. The way the scam works, if you sell a sealed game for a lot of money, the buyer (who is always a scammer) will always come back to you later and find something wrong with it and request a refund a partial refund. This happend to me with 6 different sealed games before I'd had enough. I don't sell any game sealed anymore for just that reason. The only sealed games I have left are ones that are personal to me. And if I ever sold them I'll rip the cellophane right off before selling. Never dealing with sealed "collectors" again.
do you happen to sell games at street bric-a-brac events in Europe? I met a guy at one who told me the exact same thing.
>speculator assholes on a forum seething
Yeah sure, you searched the internet and found people talking about your eBay listings. If this was real you could post it easily
I don't care if you believe me or not, just know that if you are one of those asshole sealed collectors, there's at least 5 less sealed copies of Path of Radiance out there just because of your shitty tactics. You're welcome! Glad they went to someone who is more likely to enjoy the game.
>don't care if you believe me or not
Then why respond, or post at all?
Maybe read the rest of my comment, fucktard. That's why.
if you want to tell fibs about how you stopped the evil capitalists for validation you might want to try reddit
Sealed collectors are more likely to post here, though. Seedy people post in seedy places.
>Ganker
>seedy
good lord go back
Well I did you better. I owned 6 sealed copies of Path of Radiance my dead grandma left me. When I heard they were valuable to "collectors" in a fit of rage I used my pocket knife to shred them into confetti. Then I threw the shreds all over the bus and everyone clapped. I'm sure you can find videos, the other kids were filming, they must've gotten a million hits, I was famous in school
The Gamecube? More like THE SHIT CUBE!
>prices still in the thousand(s)
Still a scam. Anything over a hundred bucks is still too much for old and crappy games.
The scam is still on-going.
GAMES are still worth a ton of money. As in, physical objects that you can insert in your machine and play. OBJECTS that just sit on the shelf and do absolutely nothing, those are plummeting in value.
wouldnt all these games be dead by now? you'd have to replace the batteries or something
I own dozens of carts with batteries in them and never had one die yet. My copy of Zelda from 1988 still saves.
Batteries are Babies First Soldering Project and lots of games don't even use them (I'd say the majority dont)
The only cart I ever had the battery died was Pokemon Yellow
Nowadays people would rather make or 3D print their own fan art and download the ROMs to modify themselves, only boomers and AVGN fans care about physical (who aren't speculators trying to scam other speculators, that's how the economy generally works).
>boomers
If by boomers, you mean anyone over 30, then yes, those are the people that like retro games. If you're under 30, you're probably playing modern PS5 garbage.
>has been called out a year ago
Learn English
The scam wasn't to sell a super mario 64 for 1,5 mil once.
The scam was pushing up the *bottom* line for retro games to $3000-6000 permanently. From hundreds average into the thousands average.
Most likely no money actually changed hands on that 1,5 mil Mario.
>Most likely no money actually changed hands on that 1,5 mil Mario
Not on that particular game, no. I'm pretty sure 4 people invested in it, and all of them work for WATA in some capacity.
>The scam was pushing up the *bottom* line for retro games to $3000-6000 permanently.
The scam was to create a bubble and bring in speculators hoping for a pay day to drive business to their "official" grading company of which they charged hundreds for.
It's the age old saying in business: In a gold rush, don't be a prospector; sell shovels and picks to the prospectors.
They just went a step further and created the gold rush themselves.
They do the same thing every decade. In the 80s it was coins and Elvis Presley shit. In the 90s it was baseball cards, comics, and beanie babies. In the 00s it was magic cards. And so on.
I made a thread about this on /vr/ two months ago and not a single person believed me.
Speculators will outright lie for profit, they just didn't want to publicize the drop in case they could off-load the good to a poor schmuck before it happened so of course your thread would be ignored.
Where do you think WATA would shitpost about retro consoles, r/Gaming? Or one of the only popular public forums for old games and consoles?
This is probably the thing I hate most about speculatory markets, the entire discussion is rife with shills and people lying about anything and everything to try and keep others thinking they still have a chance to make money just so there will still be others willing to be left holding the bag.
The video game collecting market is dwarfed by the sheer bullshittery that is the comic book collecting market.
Holy shit, you just reminded me of all the useless money I blew as a 90s kid with everyone yelling that they'd be valuable one day. When all the random games I was buying and enjoying were what truly became valuable.
I wonder what current kids toys will be valuable to them in the future? It won't be Roblox accounts I hope...
Yeah, speculation sucks and brings our the absolute worst in people. Ganker has been an example of that since its inception, anons will lie through their teeth to convince others that everything is fine when they fear that their shitcoins might go down
Enjoy your glory
It's not they don't believe you, they don't want the news getting out
Discussing collecting on /vr/ is like discussing, say, Fallout on Ganker.
Full of trannies?
Witnessed.
They say anon is retarded, but them digits ain't retarded.
WITNESSED
because its ultimately fucking meaningless. a sealed copy dropping from 500 grand to 100 grand isn't going to affect all the other copies of old games staying in the 500-3000 price range.
ALL of the prices are dropping, not just a few
>a copy
You have a long journey ahead of you, Gankerfriend.
Nobody gives a shit about this shiny pebble collecting hobby. Anyone who wants to play the fucking game emulates it.
>loads up emulator
That's cool
>Karl Jobst
>is married and have a kid
seems it payed off for him while you are here seething.
Yea bro all that hustle game and the best he got was a FOB Chink he paid to import to Australia
He seems genuinely happy. I'm happy for him, anon. Why can't you be? Is it jealousy, perhaps?
Why do you keep deflecting back to me when he is a failure PUA whose best thing he could get was a mongrel chink. How can you be ok with that? How pathetic is your life where you would settle for that?
Dude, he lives in straya, one of the most feminist countries in the world.
A dude like him would only get some 3/10 fattie who would nag him all day long.
He seems happy with the chink boy he laid, meanwhile you'll keep chasing some barely human Stacy and die alone. Or rather, think about chasing, because you never leave your room and never actually make moves on women.
Karl Jobst is the whitest person on planet earth
why do Australians all have skin cancer? I know God hates Australians so the ozone layer stayed fucked specifically only over Australia, but still. why not just put on some sunscreen lol
I remember his first video on this and it was comical how everyone involved in the scam had a israeli last name
At least one of them was outright wearing a yarmulke in the footage.
BASED JOBST DOES IT AGAIN!
I honestly hope collectiontards all die. Videogames are an experience, not piece of physical media. All the retarded money going into this retardation should be going into supporting emulation.
>retro video game crash
>the games still cost 100x original value
>adjust for inflation
>they're actually 6% cheaper
>compare to holding index funds instead of investing in toys
>you've actually lost hundreds of thousands of dollars
>Joe Biden inflated the US economy so much he made retro games cheaper
Who knew Joe was the gamer's president
The video is only talking about sealed objects. Actual games haven't dropped a cent.
Deserved.
>people in this thread thought the scammers lost
They raised prices by buying games at artificially high prices, jacked up all the prices of games, sold every high graded rare game they had and then exited the market. This is how NFTs played out. This is how all these scams play out. They aren't designed to last long.
The scammers didn't lose, at least not the initial ones. But the sealed collectors who jumped in too late are still stupid douchebags and they definitely lost money. So it's still good.
>despairing investors and normoids screeching scam
buy signal
>graded original RE used to sell for $250k,
what the FUCK????? ??? ??? ???
The only games theoretically that should sell that high are limited special addition games like that Nintendo World Champion game
Good
Fuck artificial raising the price because the game is “old”
Another tulip mania bubble. Only proves human greed and stupidity haven't changed in centuries.
>human
Yea it's "humans" and not a specific big nose tribe that keeps getting caught in these scams. Sam Bankman Fried just happened to be israeli. Same with Madoff.
usual suspects of course
Tulips were a bubble because they had no inherent value and because their supply was not limited, retard. Old games have a limited supply and functional value.
Piratebros.... how do we respond now that getting a gameboy and pokemon emerald is affordable.......
ah yes, it fell from 1 million dollars to 30 grand, so affordable.
>sold my copy of Emerald for $600 in 2021
>same condition now sells for $500
well, I guess that's progress?
until they fall below 100 dollars its a nothingburger
HELLO YOU ABSOLUTE homosexualS
My game collection is at archive.org
I have that too, plus every game from my childhood that didn't suck because I kept them instead of giving them to GameStop for pennies
Never mention Gamecube in a thread, it summons all the autistic homosexuals.
did all gamecube only kids get raped or something? I had a gamecube and it was the joke console before melee came out. I was unironically embarrassed to tell kids in addition to a ps2 that I also had a gamecube
You know whats more embarrasing? Wii can play gamecube games and wii too
PS3 can play PS1 and PS2 games, so by that logic, both of these consoles are irrelevant
>PS3 can play PS2 games,
Only the ones that self destruct
Nah, it's just that the selection of games on Gamecube just so happens to attact autistic people. Sonic Adventure 2 is practically the king of autism. But the entire library is filled with similar junk that attracts that type of person.
cool
Every time I heard someone say how rare or pristine a game was, I had to point to japanese used game stores.
The game boxes for 25+ year old games are in near perfect shape, the carts look practically untouched by human hands. Stickers on them in mint condition.
Over here though, no one gives a fuck about anything, so everything gets destroyed. That thinking leads to people thinking that something in good condition has value.
Just maybe get people to treat their things better and suddenly everything isn't so pricey or rare.
americans are just retarded and barbaric when it comes to video games and destroy shit for no real reason
american are retarded and barbaric in general, but that's what happens when your entire culture revolves around worshiping capitalism.
There's plenty of people who collect the boxes of shit in the west, the difference is, there's also a ton of depressed, nostalgic 30 and 40-somethings that hord...i mean "collect" old shit from their childhoods that they fill entire rooms up, hoping to satisfy a void that can never be filled. In Japan, very few people collect the games, they just trade them in for little and move on. You know who does collect horde those Japanese games though? The same depressed westerners, naturally.
GameStop destroyed most of those NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, and Game Boy boxes though. If you traded them in with their boxes, they threw them right in the garbage. If you trade in a Japanese game at a Japanese used store, they keep them.
gamestop threw perfectly good games and hardware in the trash
yes, that's exactly his point. its emblematic of decadent western ideals, and goes beyond just video games. if you buy a car from japan, chances are it'll be well taken care of. an american car is just left in a river or whatever to rot. oh well, it ain't mah problem so who gives a goddamn. people throw their garbage in the streets and piss on the sidewalk, because "someone else will clean it up". literal savage ape behavior.
Right, but there's this long standing idea that people just mistreated their games and didn't save the boxes for them. Most people I know saved their game boxes and took good care of them. In the 90s, most stores like FuncoLand didn't throw away the boxes and manuals. It wasn't until GameStop came in and bought all of the smaller stores up that the mass destruction of retro gaming paraphernalia happened. You could blame the west or big corporations I suppose, but most of the blame lies on one singular culprit.
yes, but gamestop's practices wouldn't have existed without the american mindset of fucking over everybody else to get the max amount of money possible. "ahhh who cares its just a game manual with vital information about the game, we need more space for other carts to sell, throw it in the trash!"
Well, I can't disagree. If Gamestop hadn't done it, some other large, cancerous corporation would have grown in its place and done the exact same thing. The larger the corporation, the more worthless they are. But still, fuck Gamestop.
This anon gets it on my trip to Japan shit was cheap. Pokémon yellow for 50000 yen (33 USD).
man, i don't give much of a damn about buying this kind of stuff, but those are some pristine boxes
92 bucks for it. On ebay it's around 550 and one for an insulting amount.
Retards with too much money are buying this shit.
That's pretty cool. I wonder how much I could get for my mint in box Pokemon Gold. I barely touched it since like, 2001.
Probably not much and you'd have to deal with some of the most unpleasant and two-faced people online in the process.
This tbqh. People in the West suck at treating their property right. Read some amazon 1-star reviews or ask some people who work in customer care. Or just look at your your friends' (lol) appliances at home. People don't read manuals, people don't perform the bare minimum of required maintenance, people handle stuff like savages. Every time I've lent stuff to friends, I have always received it back in much worse condition (if at all).
That's not strictly a western thing. I live in the east and my friend always ruins shit that I loan to him. I let him borrow a DVD box set and he brought it back with the outer case with rips all over it. Like, really?
which country?
Maybe it's more of a Japan vs. ROW thing. You can also tell by how clean and well-maintained cities are. Japan is pristine. Most 1st-world European cities are pretty clean. American cities are somewhere in the middle, but can get pretty bad. Eastern Europe is kind of run down and not too clean, but they're improving. Middle East is pretty bad. A lot of Asia in general is pretty bad. China is famously dirty, for example.
It's just cultures that lack care, for one reason or another. The Japanese are famously uptight. It wrecks them on many levels, but their cities are clean and they treat the physical world with respect for the most part. Maybe it has something to do with seeing an intrinsic value in things. If a thing is just there to be sold/used, then eh, why even appreciate it? That's kind of the vibe I get in the West nowadays.
grading values are a farce, did no one watch that RLM episode where they send in some garbage VHS to get graded?
>Hello you absolute legends
Ok, stopped watching there. I'm not askig for recap of this video, but can someone explain why the fuck are retro games (and pokemon cards) so expensive?
I bought a MISTer and threw literally every game ever made from PS1 backwards on there and never touched a real retro game ever again
is that another karl video? i hate that fuck more than i hate DSP.
Do not watch Karl Jobst, do not give people that live off from drama a constant income, do not give Karl Jobst likes.
Ignore the thread
>Went from [retarded value] to [rip off value]
nah, need a real crash with devs and journos dying
Pretty much. If you don't have a 9.8 graded WATA game, you have nothing. I like their clear cases. I wish I could get them for protection/displaying without the expensive grading.
>Walk into used video game store
>PS3 games at $20
That's how I knew people had finally lost their god damn minds
When physical media goes away completely and google manages to completely eradicate all piracy, all that old shit will be worth money.
>My parents always threw away the game boxes and manuals from my games when I was a kid
>Missed out on reselling games I don't want to play or own anymore
I hate them both so much and not just for that reason
this is what 90% of people did, anon
we just assumed the boxes were packaging and tossed them
nobody could have predicted that "videogame collecting" would become a thing and autists would pay hundreds of thousands for a boxed copy of something
Looking at it, no one really did.
Most of the high sellers never left the auction house, they seem to have bought it themselves to sell later after driving up the price.
Even at the 90% percent drop in price from the fake sale you still end up making money.
that's a pretty classic scam
My parents always made me keep game and console boxes "in case the game broke," did all of you just have extremely trusting parents or something?
All these extremely expensive games are also unopened so there's that. Otherwise, not everyone wants to store all the packaging. I've been doing that for some stuff because I get to move relatively often, but it's a huge space hog.
>graded Pokémon fell from $20k to just $600
"$600 for Pokémon Red? That sounds excessive, but I guess I can see where -"
>it's fucking PokéPark Wii
how did anyone fall for that? it's a fucking wii game, and a very mediocre one at that. it's never than boxed blue-ray copies of the dark knight. that game should be $5 at a flea market. all collectors deserve the rope.
He looks like he's dying
Can we get the same with Comic Books?
I want Speculators to die off
None of those insane prices were realy to begin with.
A group of israelites wanted to charge people to grade their games and sold them to themselves.
There are laws against this of course, but it takes awhile for the law to catch up when you make a new market to use the tricks in.
One could argue that most people speculating on cartridges were scammers themselves, hoping to enter the hustle and soon exit, reselling their stock to the next scammer. From this point of view, perhaps they aren't supposed to be protected by law. Law should protect people who trade real goods and invest in real businesses.
who the fuck pays thousands of dollars for games that sold millions of copies
Reminder that OP wanted you to gloss over the fact the used game market is still scamming you for $600 for a copy of pokemon and $15k for a fucking Zelda game
Don't buy them?
A scam is a scam whether or not I buy them.
And yet you can get pretty pristine copies of games in Japan for a reasonable price, and the only reason they don't sell for as much is because people can't read Japanese.
Funny.
These are copies that the retailers already had, they don't take any additional effort
I'd not bother selling a game online after so many fucking years of keeping it pristine if I wasn't getting at least 600 bucks for it, it's not worth my god damn time if I'm selling it for 5$ like you want you fucking poorfag, get a cheaper hobby you leech.
Most unfortunate, but no one who poured money into this shit to profit deserves sympathy.
is it really? Im so happy if this is true. How long until the normalfags start pricing retro correctly? a year?
>HE'S A NAZI
>HE'S A israelite
as if that one even matters
You're all retarded. All he did was say that white people should be able to say the n word on the basis of free speech, which is not racist. The israelite accusations are pol schizobabble and therefore not worth addressing further.
>b-but billy said
Billy is obviously trying to paint him in a negative light
LMAO thinking current prices are a crash. The only thing that's crashed is the Graded market. Some games are higher today than 2 years ago. Some are lower.
>le youtuber voice
So annoying. Why do they do that?
Just talk like a normal human being. God