As a raytracing and particle effects demo.
It did have immaculate ambience and architecture, but that's all it had.
Forgot to say I watched it all on youtube, still amazing nonetheless.
I'm playing it right now, and the gameplay is actually fun. You can blow people up with rocket launcher, charged laser, throw tables, fire extinguishers, exploding barrels, dead bodies, almost dead other enemies at them, etc. When you throw a bigger object at them sometimes the nearby pillars or railguards just get obliterated in the process.
Idk what this meme is that the gameplay is bad about, but it's proven to be 100% false once I started playing. In Alan Wake's case, it was 100% justified, the gameplay is trash there, but in Control it's at least Max Payne tier good, if not a little better.
god of war ragnarock is the most repulsive, vile, sordid "game" I ever had the displeasure of playing. sony games, NEVER AGAIN. I only imagine those other games on this list are just as bad.
>a company full of of turbotroons of color >flaunts that they are full of turbotroons of color >gets paid top dollar to do sensitivity reading for AAA games >said games end up being full of turbotroonery >anonymous turbotroons mock anyone who points out the connection
Yes yes, and there is no slippery slope, and epstein did infact kill himself, something something steel beans. Now let me go get my tinfoil hat because clearly this is another conspiracy theory and im a chud. By the way, is their logo really a baby shaped lollipop? Yes, yes it is.
Yeah sure you're right but you don't need to make every thread you possibly can into this ffs. This isn't an Alan Wake 2 thread you fucking retards.
>BLACK STRONG RAWR >FUCKING WHITEY
If Blacks are so strong why is whitey able to keep them down in games so easily? Honestly I'm confused why they aren't following the Spiderman format.
YO NOTICE HOW SHE'S STANDING SO FAR AWAY FROM THE MALE GUY HERE?
I BET SWEETBABY RAPISTS TOLD REMEDY OOOOH THEY'RE TOO CLOSE YOU MUST SPACE THEM APART OR IT'S SEGGSUAL HURRRUSMRTNTNRNDKSO
Stfu sweetbaby cocksucker
the promo implied a close relationship between Casey and Hasa or whatever the black girl's name is
of course this was when she was white so Sweetbaby came in and said no no men can't stand so close to women BIPOC horrors and shit
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
that promo also has casey die like in wake's own in-game novel you retard
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ahh so they pussed out twice? Can't up the stakes by having Casey die and can't have Saga white and close to him either! Just wow!
>Ganker: "Representation doesn't matter, you should be able to identify with the message not the messenger" >also Ganker: "NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE A CHARACTER'S SKIN COLOR WHILE KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THEM EXACTLY THE SAME! THIS IS WHITE GENOCIDE!!!"
>you don't like naggers because your poor
Yeah you'd have a different opinion if you actually had to interact with them. You see unrealistic house naggers on t.v and think they act like that.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
you realize you're a nagger lover, right?
omg we get it, you're a low iq racist and proud of it.
just kys
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>deny objective reality >deny lived experiences >deny scientific data >call others low iq
lmao
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn't say that, I just said you're poor. Who knows, you could be a nagger too. You guys kill each other more than anyone else so there must be a lot of hatred there.
>The fact that both the actress and the character have norse ancestry and this being an important plot point is just a mere coincidence, she was always a placeholder for a nagger
fuck off
he's the creative director, main writer, and the face of the company ever since max payne 1
You keep bringing this up when this wasn't the case at the time, it was changed later.
nigga nothing was the case at the time, it was an Easter Egg in a game they don't even have the rights for, alluding vaguely to another game with another story that wouldn't be finished 8 years in the future and even then isn't completely finished.
if you actually cared about this issue like you want to pretend you do, you'd also be asking why Tim isn't called Jack, why Door isn't called Hax and why Alex isn't called Max. but you don't.
>it was an easter egg so it doesn't count
It was a teaser for AW2 called Return that was referenced in QB. >but that doesn't count because I don't want it to
Lets also not ignore how it was directly referenced by Sam Lake after the fact. You're just defending a retarded change because you can't not criticize the game for some reason. Saga's race swap is a retcon and it is stupid, like all retcons are. No amount of seething on your part is going to change this fact. >inb4 something racism you didn't paly the game
I did, I liked it. Saga being black is still stupid.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it was a teaser therefore its absolute and unchangeable
okay, then why aren't you complaining that they've swapped places in the final product?
it wasn't a teaser. it was literally an Easter Egg. a teaser is when a company confirms a product before they can show a finalized product, which is something that they didn't have at the time for AW2; and even if they did, a game to change in 8 years of development, for better or worse. >it was referenced by Lake in social media before the proof of concept stage was even finalized therefore its absolute and unchangeable
you're being a reductionist retard because you don't want to acknowledge that the plot has had these changes to increase the characters' (Door's and Saga's) stake in the story where otherwise they would feel entirely univolved when compared to Casey. >muh racism! this will cover me from addressing the other points highlighting the issues the company suffered with copyright laws!
I'm way more racist than you are, swarthoid. the difference between you and me is that I can separate a black from a nagger. and you're acting like the latter.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it wasn't a teaser. it was literally an Easter Egg. >teaser: noun: a short introductory advertisement for a product
You can try to cope by saying "it was just an Easter egg" but that does not change how stupid you are.
You also keep mentioning her relation to Door as if it's important but it isn't. Her being related to him doesn't matter at all because it does nothing for the narrative. The only link to other characters that matters for her character is her relation to the Andersons. Door is basically a complete non-character for the entire game.
Saga getting race swapped is retarded and you are not mentally sufficient enough to actually explain why this isn't the case. you even ignored how Sam Lake directly referenced the teaser for AW2 in QB. Multiple people keep saying this to you in every thread you barge into; but you are a fucking idiot.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
See the real proof is right here. Saga and Casey are standing shoulder to shoulder. Proper camaraderie between a woman and a man. Now after Sweetbaby came in, she's black and she's always feets apart from Casey. That's the proof, not the black washing but the forced social distancing because muh private space violation by white rapey male
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are literally retarded, lmao. The game also explicitly shows that they're good friends with each other.
or maybe it's so that Wake can be seen in the background looking distraught, he's even highlighted with a light, sorry you have brainrot, anon
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it was literally an Easter Egg
you keep pushing this false narrative in these threads, why?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
How is it a false narrative? it's a night spring episode tier video that plays in a specific television in a game that makes few other mentions of AW or anything in its universe and none of them to the level that Control did. that's what an Easter Egg is. I'll raise the issue of copyrights again until your brain worms can squirm through the estrogen in it and make sense of what's being said: Remedy doesn't own the Quantum Break IP. They cannot officially use it nor announce other fucking games through it. Microsoft wouldn't let that happen. This is why Sam couldn't say "Alan Wake" instead of "missing writer" in the tweet you fucking retards treat as the holy grail, he's a copyrighted character from a copyrighted series of the same name, Saga and Casey weren't. This, too, changed.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I love how you ignored
>it wasn't a teaser. it was literally an Easter Egg. >teaser: noun: a short introductory advertisement for a product
You can try to cope by saying "it was just an Easter egg" but that does not change how stupid you are.
You also keep mentioning her relation to Door as if it's important but it isn't. Her being related to him doesn't matter at all because it does nothing for the narrative. The only link to other characters that matters for her character is her relation to the Andersons. Door is basically a complete non-character for the entire game.
Saga getting race swapped is retarded and you are not mentally sufficient enough to actually explain why this isn't the case. you even ignored how Sam Lake directly referenced the teaser for AW2 in QB. Multiple people keep saying this to you in every thread you barge into; but you are a fucking idiot.
Shut the fuck up, retard.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I admittedly replied to the wrong post in
Once again you refuse to address why this mythical Teaser of yours has had changes in it other than one of the character's race and also refuse to acknowledge the other points brought up.
You're not arguing in good faith.
This assertion is furthered by your claim that Door's relation to Saga is irrevelant while mentioning the other Andersons while failing to acknowledge that they, too, mention Door.
There is an entire cutscene where Door DIRECTLY complains that Alan inserted his daughter in the story, a clear mirror to how Saga inserted her daughter into the story, both of which are happening at different points of time.
There is an entire character arc between Saga and the Andersons where one is attempting to get her to listen to an apology song which also allures to what happened to Door, with additional details being delivered through manuscripts and the like found in-game.
If you somehow decide to ignore my entire wall of text like the fucking nagger or troon you are, I want you to at least assess why this immutable "Teaser" of yours has had multiple changes apart from Saga, if you can't do that without conceding that more things changed from something made 8 years ago, don't bother replying.
meant for
>it wasn't a teaser. it was literally an Easter Egg. >teaser: noun: a short introductory advertisement for a product
You can try to cope by saying "it was just an Easter egg" but that does not change how stupid you are.
You also keep mentioning her relation to Door as if it's important but it isn't. Her being related to him doesn't matter at all because it does nothing for the narrative. The only link to other characters that matters for her character is her relation to the Andersons. Door is basically a complete non-character for the entire game.
Saga getting race swapped is retarded and you are not mentally sufficient enough to actually explain why this isn't the case. you even ignored how Sam Lake directly referenced the teaser for AW2 in QB. Multiple people keep saying this to you in every thread you barge into; but you are a fucking idiot.
, but you, too, refuse to answer accordingly to the post you replied to, I'm starting to think you're the same person.
>the teaser isn't real, it's just amyth
Lmao, now this is next level shitposting. >But odin and tor also reference her father???
And this doesn't matter because removing her relation to him does not fucking change anything you dumb nagger. You can change her father and it won't do anything because the only thing that matters is her mother's side of the family.
The only person not arguing in good faith here is you. Now I can see why people think you're a schizo retard. These threads go to shit the second you show up. You're as bad as the autists screaming about the game without even having played it.
Why didn't you address what was said about the other changes in your "Teaser"? >removing her relation to him does not fucking change anything
It would change the lore established in the game using that fact; it would make seem Door look like an evil entity that took a hostage (Tim) for no reason other than his own, it would change the few things that we know are agreeable about him (PROTECTING HIS DAUGHTER LIKE SHE HERSELF IS DOING), It would even change the mechanics of what we know of Saga's mind place, since powers in the universe seem to have a hereditary effect, something, that once again, is related by the Andersons that had direct contact with him,
You're either an speedreader or you've never played this game in the first place.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pretty much everything you've been poorly arguing about has been referenced and it's hilarious how you're trying to spin this onto idiocy anyone else. You somehow read "her father doesn't matter" as their relationship not being referenced at all in game. How you somehow reached this idiotic conclusion is beyond me and it's clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, especially since you keep trying to handwave away an official teaser for the game >buhh they don't own the rights to the game
And? What the absolute fuck does that have to do with her depiction as a character? You keep ignoring how those two characters were directly referenced as Saga and Casey even back in 2015 yet you bring up name changes for no reason.
Saga being race swapped is stupid and the argument of her relation to Door doesn't matter because Door is a non-character. You act like her mind place is related to Door when the game tells you it's because of the Andersons. And you try to tell anyone else they didn't pay attention? >YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME
Yeah, you're a schizo. Take your meds, nagger.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>door is a non character
lmao good try shitposter-kun
he's going to be the Thanos of the remedyverse
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, he is a non character in AW2. He does nothing and his relation to people in the game changes nothing because he barely exists as an meaningful entity. You can change saga's father and her backstory would functionally be the exact same because the only thing that matters is Odin and Tor. You have not refuted this, again.
You only shitposter here is you.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
For calling me a schizo you sure seem to think that different people are one, this is the third time you do this.
Door's introduction happens at the very beginning of the game by removing Tim from Saga's side of reality and continues affecting the game's world and story by helping Alan, whom he begrudgingly assists through the Dark Place, because that's what he is, a "Door", the primary way for Alan to move around different places within it. >You can change saga's race and her backstory and actions would functionally be the exact same because the only thing that matters is her relation to the plot and the characters within it.
Two can play this game, btw.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>referenced
No, once again you're being reductive. It's not things that are referenced, they're positives, not allures. Please take time off jacking off to trannies and read something good in your life, you'll learn how literature and the usage of plot tools work. >You somehow read "her father doesn't matter" as their relationship not being referenced at all in game.
Because those are the same statement. The primary driver of Door as a character in the game is that Alan involved her in his manuscript. This is not arguable. This is something that is told to you, directly, in-game. >official teaser for the game
The absolute irony of your accusation of me trying to "handwave away" the "official teaser" while you try to christen it as canonical content while also dismissing events that happen IN THE GAME could kill a man if it had physical weight to it. >no reason.
See? This is why I cannot take you seriously when you claim to have played this game. Casey was a character in the first game, a character like Wake killed off in his novel. You are misterpreting the problem with copyright that I bring up, on purpose, because you know otherwise you wouldn't have a point. Just like how you refuse to talk about the other changes in your teaser; so I'll bring them up again until you do or stop replying: accept that things have objectively changed from 8 years ago for reasons that exist within the game or stop replying. >Door is a non-character.
False, he is one of the most important characters of the game with direct relation to the Dark Place and possibly the entire "Remedy universe" that they've introduced so far. You could say that he doesn't have enough screentime to warrant it and I would agree, but to say that he's a non-character is just bullshit. >And you try to tell anyone else they didn't pay attention?
You're a retarded nagger. The mix between the Anderson and Door's blood brought upon an ability unforeseen by the Andersons, she's a Seer, unlike them.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>she's a Seer, unlike them.
I'd like to elaborate on this claim, but I had ran out of character space; I wanted to type that she's a Seer to a higher degree that they are.
Saga is able to communicate with Alan through the Dark Place, this is most likely because she's Door's daughter, who has actual real estate within it and can move people through it, seemingly freely. Additionally, she can even communicate with the Taken, something that the Andersons don't seem to be able to/care about doing, but the latter part is unclear, that'll probably be explained in the DLC since they've went into it. And on that note I agree with
Door is DLC bait.
Door deserved much more screentime in the actual game, but claiming that he's not important is naggery.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Because those are the same statement.
congratulations, you are not only illiterate but also retarded. I even went into detail as to what that statement meant and you still somehow got confused by its meaning. >other changes in the teaser
Again, such as? Saga and Casey's names? those are the same. The murder of Casey in Alan's novel? That's also the same. >no the names of characters from another work that they don't own so the names obviously changed
Which isn't relevant to the discussion because we're talking about constants between the two series. Saga and Casey and the story in Alan Wake. Something you seem to not be able to grasp >door is important
Except he isn't, I already specified as to why. The only thing he does in the story is kidnap the sheriff. >saga is a seer unlike them >when they know about her mind place and tell her about it in the first place since it's directly tied to the Anderson blood, as stated by them
Yeah, you're fucking stupid. you shouldn't tell anyone else they didn't "play the game" when this is the dumb shit you're starting to say now.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>congratulations, you are not only illiterate but also retarded.
Rich coming from you, especially when I've delineated the main reason why in the same paragraph and yet you don't talk about it. >such as?
Why is Alan not there? Why is the room different? Why is the clues in the board different? Why does the real Casey die? Why are the sequence of events different? Why is Initiation not mentioned? >we're talking about constants between the two series.
There is no official constant between QB and Alan Wake because there can't legally be until they either buy the IP or Microsoft somehow allows a collab between them. >The only thing he does in the story is kidnap the sheriff.
These are words uttered by the utterly insane. You didn't play the game past the first episode.
>about saga
see
>she's a Seer, unlike them.
I'd like to elaborate on this claim, but I had ran out of character space; I wanted to type that she's a Seer to a higher degree that they are.
Saga is able to communicate with Alan through the Dark Place, this is most likely because she's Door's daughter, who has actual real estate within it and can move people through it, seemingly freely. Additionally, she can even communicate with the Taken, something that the Andersons don't seem to be able to/care about doing, but the latter part is unclear, that'll probably be explained in the DLC since they've went into it. And on that note I agree with [...] Door deserved much more screentime in the actual game, but claiming that he's not important is naggery.
, though I'm sure you've ignored that post on purpose, that's the only way you can argue, having much in common with a tranny, kek
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Why is Alan not there?
For real? I'm gonna stop right here because you are clearly insane. Did you not look at the fucking teaser? Do you not know who shows up in it or is even narrating the fucking thing ? Why are you talking about something you didn't even pay attention to? Alan and Scratch both show up in the teaser you dumb mother fucker. Alan narrates the damn thing. And for as much as you keep going on and on about names changing in the teaser in comparison to the final product, everything is the same. Saga Anderson and Alex Casey both show up as those two characters in the video, FBI badges and all. There is absolutely zero reason to try and hold a discussion with an individual like you who is blatantly ignoring facts thrown in their face. And you have the audacity to claim that any one else is arguing in bad faith?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I meant why isn't he in the room with them you raging autist, I even used a correct timeline to refer to my questions. >everything is the same >except when I agree it isn't, provided by my own evidence
Your IQ is so below any other gorilla nagger I had the unfortunate circumstance to "discuss" with that I'm actually impressed, you couldn't even reply with your normal MO, so I accept your concession.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
So much deflection without addressing the obvious, you falseflagging naggerhomosexual.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Once again you refuse to address why this mythical Teaser of yours has had changes in it other than one of the character's race and also refuse to acknowledge the other points brought up.
You're not arguing in good faith.
This assertion is furthered by your claim that Door's relation to Saga is irrevelant while mentioning the other Andersons while failing to acknowledge that they, too, mention Door.
There is an entire cutscene where Door DIRECTLY complains that Alan inserted his daughter in the story, a clear mirror to how Saga inserted her daughter into the story, both of which are happening at different points of time.
There is an entire character arc between Saga and the Andersons where one is attempting to get her to listen to an apology song which also allures to what happened to Door, with additional details being delivered through manuscripts and the like found in-game.
If you somehow decide to ignore my entire wall of text like the fucking nagger or troon you are, I want you to at least assess why this immutable "Teaser" of yours has had multiple changes apart from Saga, if you can't do that without conceding that more things changed from something made 8 years ago, don't bother replying.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the teaser isn't real, it's just amyth
Lmao, now this is next level shitposting. >But odin and tor also reference her father???
And this doesn't matter because removing her relation to him does not fucking change anything you dumb nagger. You can change her father and it won't do anything because the only thing that matters is her mother's side of the family.
The only person not arguing in good faith here is you. Now I can see why people think you're a schizo retard. These threads go to shit the second you show up. You're as bad as the autists screaming about the game without even having played it.
I agree with the whole raceswapping part (one of the few games I will agree with /vpol/) but outside of Ahti why would they have North Europeans in a game that takes place in the Pacific Northwest following an FBI agent?
>everyone latches on to her even though she literally said nothing/did no actual acting. >literal crickets regarding the characters from Control and Quantum Break that were changed to white from their placeholder versions
And yet you guys call others snowflakes.
Come on lol every game they've contributed to have some fucking insane weirdo touches to them, it's not crazy to realize this company clearly is very hands-on.
A consulting company that's working with pretty much all of the vidya industry to make games more diverse. Their logo is a baby with a lollipop up its ass.
You guys sound like you'd be a entertaining NPC faction in the game: >literal fucking multidimensional viral threat to humanity >"ACKSHUALLY NO, IT'S THE PENTECOSTALS THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY AYY LMAOS! I KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY SAID SO ON OAN!!"
>a company full of of turbotroons of color >flaunts that they are full of turbotroons of color >gets paid top dollar to do sensitivity reading for AAA games >said games end up being full of turbotroonery >anonymous turbotroons mock anyone who points out the connection
Yes yes, and there is no slippery slope, and epstein did infact kill himself, something something steel beans. Now let me go get my tinfoil hat because clearly this is another conspiracy theory and im a chud. By the way, is their logo really a baby shaped lollipop? Yes, yes it is.
I don’t even understand how this is revelatory or interesting in the slightest. Games are the most mass marketed, focus tested, soulless shit out there, why in gods name do you think that’s the one industry that wouldn’t be brimming with bullshit diversity consultants like every other industry in the western world.
A consulting company that's working with pretty much all of the vidya industry to make games more diverse. Their logo is a baby with a lollipop up its ass.
Did people really like control? Seemed like female centric netflix garbage when I looked at the ad on ps. Maybe the gameplay is okay, but its got that hzd gow tolu writing that totally blows.
the worldspace was excellently crafted and it was fun to explore all the hidden locations, aside from that and some of the more impressive technical aspects the game was just basic slop that went in the way of the fun stuff.
How have Kojima and Lake not made a game with each other yet? Are they just too much alike and would wrestle for creative Control? He already worked well with del Toro and others.
Kojima wants to make movies. Lake wants to make series. They're both hacks and will never break through into Hollywood, so they do the next best(?) thing, shitty videogames.
Will it be less boring this time? "Floating red dudes" and telekinetic furniture are lame as fuck when you consider all the crazy shit in the source material Control is clearly drawing from.
If this game had any news. This would be my most anticipated game. Not only have remedy won me over as fan with Alan Wake 2 after disappointing me with Max Payne 1. But Control is a game that I feel like has SO MUCH potential to be a genuine masterpiece, and I like to have faith in sequels to grow and realize their potential. That's why I was so excited for TOTK after bouncing of BOTW hard and...it was better but...let's not talk about it.
Point is: Control has huge potential. If that potential is realized I think it could be a masterpiece. If it had a release date or any more consistent news it'd be my most anticipated after Silksong.
Remedy just released an investor report that Control 2 is moving along in proof of concept stage and that they are currently in preproduction for the Max Payne remakes
It'll be just fine. First game was pretty great, which is why all the no-game seethers ITT are spamming and trying to convince us otherwise.
I'm hoping for some changes in the sequel though: Since they're going for a Dark Souls-lite make it truly so with different factions you can join, grind for and even fight against. Some sort of pvp/invasion system would be interesting and could tie into the factions, but isn't a priority.
Also, having a procedurally generated game mode would be nice; some sort of end-game activity where you use the projector to jump into metaverse hellholes and kill or investigate shit to grind for resources/reputation: Kinda like the jukebox in the first game but with actually different levels every time you do it. This gameplay could also be used for a horde mode fragfest?
The foundation dlc really was a redemption arc of all time for him. >that little "wave of goodbye" he does when you're climbing up a long cave corridor full of holes, towards the end of the dlc
control is a weird game. it's simultaneously...how do I say this? "engaging, but boring" at the same time. Like when I first booted it up, I played for like 5 hours straight, and I DO NOT do that with videogames very often. Infact, whenever I try to play metroid prime, I have to stop playing after like 10 minutes because I'm bored. And before some retard screams "kek! zoomie!" I played super metroid, hollow knight, dark souls 1, and TOMB RAIDER for fucks sake, and all those games are not only 10x slower than Metroid Prime, but they're also 10x harder. There should be literally no filter. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying metroid prime is a bad game, infact I find it kinda interesting, I'm not even saying Control is a good game, infact I find it kinda monotonous. I just find it the contrasts interesting
If its the same shit about doing offices roguelike amd pretend scp kino its the agency instead of the creatures and +% stats as upgrades yes also no fucking covers when most enemies are same as quantum break
I hope they manage to make Jesse an interesting protagonist this time around, because she was the most boring character in the first game. Casper Darling, Trench and Ahti were so much more charismatic.
That black lady also sucked, the cute scientist one was also boring. For as much as Remedy seems to be focusing on female characters, they sure can't write charismatic and interesting female characters.
The reason their female characters are so fucking boring is because their flaws can be summed up with "I'm too good at my job, tehee" that's literally the writing mentality behind their strong female characters. Meanwhile Trench and Darling are interesting bececause they're eccentric, fucking weird and also have actual flaws. What was the black lady's flaw? That she was too strong a warrior and it got her in trouble? I don't know, I can't even remember so I'm just guessing.
On some level it has to sting, the only characters anybody care about are the male ones but half the cast is female, they're just completely fucking forgotten and nobody gives a shit, not even women. Maybe if they sabotage the male characters in the sequel, the female ones will seem more interesting, that'll probably be the tactic they go for.
>their flaws can be summed up with "I'm too good at my job, tehee"
If you missed it, that was the whole point of the game.
Pay attention to the dialogue after you beat the final encounter and during the DLC. The message is literally "old white men did it poorly, we will do it much better now".
Still, great game and Darling was definitely the best character by far.
Former/Fired is the best character in Control, though maybe neck-and-neck with Ahti.
>Ahti
I dont understand the fellating this character gets. He's so intentionally quirky that it just felt forced to me.
>"old white men did it poorly, we will do it much better now".
Yeah but the problem I have with it is that the female characters are all boring, and the bad men are great. I really can't bring myself to seethe at the idea itself that women would take over from the men that have ran this thing into the ground, on paper that is a theme that could be interesting but it fails because of how one dimensional all the female characters feel.
Well yeah, obviously. The messaging fails.
And overall I agree, although I wouldnt want for it to be specifically "women take over from men".
I have doubts that Control 2 will be as good as the first one, but I hope they at least bring back Darling somehow.
I think it has every opportunity to be better. They're going to have a bigger budget and will be able to do more with it, which is promising.
Pretty sure Darling will be back as he's a fan favorite, also I don't know if you've played Alan Wake 2 yet but he's shown in there, and might also show up in the dlc for it, which will no doubt act as a teaser for Control 2.
Didnt like AW2, but we'll see.
I also think they are overdoing it with the crossovers.
I thought the AW references in Control were okay, but honestly I just think the shared universe thing lessens each other's stories/worldbuilding.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I really liked AW2 but I still agree with you on the crossover shit. It works well in small dosage, but I feel like it was a mistake to directly involve the FBC in not only the story of AW2 but in the climax of the story. It'd be like if Alan shows up in Control 2 to help Jesse defeat the final boss, it's stupid.
Ahti is a great character if you look past the lol quirky weird exterior and realize how absolutely fucking terrifying it must be to have someTHING like that just casually exist at your supersecret superspecial agency headquarters, not knowing what it wants and not being able to do anything about it.
i think that is the real sense of mystery that i love in these kinds of stories, games these days try to explain everything happening in them which just makes it feel like the developers can't accept that these things simply happen sometimes.
i don't like weird games. like shit that happens in some alternate reality. enemies that look like humans, a protagonist that is human, a world that looks like any normal city but SUDDENLY EVERYBODY HAS SUPER POWERS OR THE WORLD WARPS AND CHANGES AND THE PROTAGONIST CAN FLY!111 i just want a good god damn third person shooter with a good story. you shoot the enemy in the head, it dies, you move on. max payne was exactly that, except for the nightmare levels.
>enemies that take a dozen rifle rounds to the head
it was okay, but not really good. i just want remedy to make another max payne. man, gun, bullet time, writing heavy on the metaphors.
I don't know how far I got in Control, but I dropped I think like maybe not even halfway through, it was just super fucking boring. The ambience and atmosphere were god-tier, and it looked amazing, but just walking around with the occasional boss/fight was boring. It felt like I was playing a Resident Evil game with less horror and less gameplay, like more exploration and spooky vibes. It's not like I had zombies and monsters jumping out at me.
the foundation is mostly just caves but there was this one part with the proper bureau which was fun to explore. the second dlc takes place exclusively in the bureau and has some really interesting AWE's to explore, the main boss is kind of gimmicky and the game generally takes a more horror-like direction with the second alan wake dlc.
Yeah. Shittier than the 1st one atleast. Either a monkey sidekick or something like alan woke.
Once le woman spruced up the old house, it was time to being it into the modern era!!
whatever even happened to him?
I only remember his last video, where he was without clothes and sayin this is the last tiem we see him. Was there anything else to that?
he managed to go into the multiversal fold like he wanted to do much and is now taking the role of "observer". as far as we know he hasn't actively acted for or against the characters like Door has done.
Citation? For all we know he might have jumped into some dimensional rift and become a demigod, disintegrated into anti-matter or just gotten stranded on one of those Halflife Xen floating islands.
The only certainty is he's disappeared; no body found.
in Control his recordings are referring to events that are currently happening, implying that he has some ability to either:
1) see the future from the past and time his deliveries into the present
2) interact with the linear present outside of it
apart from that it's up to interpretation, and I believe that's the point
in AW2 it's far more remote, it's like he Hotline'd Jesse into Alan's dark place, we'll learn more in the DLCs, hopefully
The problem with Control is mostly with it's characters. The general story, universe, are pretty solid, and visual art style and art direction are incredible. But the characters and the actors playing them are so fucking bad it feels like high school theater hour. It's atrocious. I hate video games.
I'm interested in how they'll try to tie more Finno-Ugric and Saami mythologies into the game.
Foundation and Nail are directly taken from Saami myths. Nail holds the sky in place and connects it to the ground. Polaris is the focal point of the Nail in the night sky. The sky works as a barrier from the forces beyond, meaning dead souls etc. And Foundation is the world of the living.
The first game was so fucking boring, I don't get why some people like it
I don't like the setting, but I can see the appeal, but the gameplay is just objectively shit
Ignoring all this /misc/ seething, there is not much hope for it to be good. The first game was plain, repetitive and the settings was bland as fuck in comparison to original SCP universe. There isn't much interest, because first game wasn't anything memorable or special.
Literally finished Control yesterday. Game was terrible. They took one encounter and stretched it out for an entire game. The combat is as shallow as a puddle. The map is terrible and just serves to waste to time going through sterile offices and never ending doors.
My guess is that the only people praising this game don't actually play other games. Which is why journalists blew their load over it.
yes umm every game ever is going to be shit except that one game you played when you were 5 which is shit game but you have nostalgia for it
>control 2
>3 bodies
yes, just like the first one
Excuse you, the first game is amazing.
>game
More like tech demo, which was good yeah.
I'm playing it right now, and the gameplay is actually fun. You can blow people up with rocket launcher, charged laser, throw tables, fire extinguishers, exploding barrels, dead bodies, almost dead other enemies at them, etc. When you throw a bigger object at them sometimes the nearby pillars or railguards just get obliterated in the process.
Idk what this meme is that the gameplay is bad about, but it's proven to be 100% false once I started playing. In Alan Wake's case, it was 100% justified, the gameplay is trash there, but in Control it's at least Max Payne tier good, if not a little better.
Them game giving you little reasons to do anything but mash the throw button is one of the reasons why it sucks.
>it's at least Max Payne tier good, if not a little better.
Sounds like a journalist quote for quantum break "like skyrim with guns"
I don't know what your issue is, I still believe this and I will die on this hill.
As a raytracing and particle effects demo.
It did have immaculate ambience and architecture, but that's all it had.
More like paper explosion demo
Forgot to say I watched it all on youtube, still amazing nonetheless.
Shit take
the first one is probably the only good western game aside cuphead and hollow knight released within the last decade.
>aside cuphead and hollow knight
Least retarded indie meatrider
if they are involved
yes
you know they're gonna be involved with this too.
god of war ragnarock is the most repulsive, vile, sordid "game" I ever had the displeasure of playing. sony games, NEVER AGAIN. I only imagine those other games on this list are just as bad.
Yeah sure you're right but you don't need to make every thread you possibly can into this ffs. This isn't an Alan Wake 2 thread you fucking retards.
>that feel when you will never get a kino sequel to hyper light drifter because the dev brought on a bunch of alphabet people grifters
>first game is 2.5D action game with some light souls aspects
>turn it into a generic looking 3D open world game
What a bunch or retards.
Not only that, it's a roguelite now.
Zoey quinn got her hooks in. I would fear the Heart machines life.
sable wasn't that bad
For anons that didn't play the game, in that scene the hag is losing his shit, influenced by the dark place (not the show)
>BLACK STRONG RAWR
>FUCKING WHITEY
If Blacks are so strong why is whitey able to keep them down in games so easily? Honestly I'm confused why they aren't following the Spiderman format.
Look what they have done to my girl! Motherfuckers!
Finland has fallen
YO NOTICE HOW SHE'S STANDING SO FAR AWAY FROM THE MALE GUY HERE?
I BET SWEETBABY RAPISTS TOLD REMEDY OOOOH THEY'RE TOO CLOSE YOU MUST SPACE THEM APART OR IT'S SEGGSUAL HURRRUSMRTNTNRNDKSO
What the fuck are you talking about nagger? Seriously, you need help.
Stfu sweetbaby cocksucker
the promo implied a close relationship between Casey and Hasa or whatever the black girl's name is
of course this was when she was white so Sweetbaby came in and said no no men can't stand so close to women BIPOC horrors and shit
that promo also has casey die like in wake's own in-game novel you retard
Ahh so they pussed out twice? Can't up the stakes by having Casey die and can't have Saga white and close to him either! Just wow!
Sad
or maybe it's so that Wake can be seen in the background looking distraught, he's even highlighted with a light, sorry you have brainrot, anon
Why do they drink synchronized?
Quirky
>Ganker: "Representation doesn't matter, you should be able to identify with the message not the messenger"
>also Ganker: "NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE A CHARACTER'S SKIN COLOR WHILE KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THEM EXACTLY THE SAME! THIS IS WHITE GENOCIDE!!!"
you realize she was always a placeholder and never the final actress, right?
you realize you're a nagger lover, right?
This crusade of seethe is so funny. Same thing when Control dropped because you 3rd worlders couldn't run that either.
>you don't like naggers because your poor
Yeah you'd have a different opinion if you actually had to interact with them. You see unrealistic house naggers on t.v and think they act like that.
omg we get it, you're a low iq racist and proud of it.
just kys
>deny objective reality
>deny lived experiences
>deny scientific data
>call others low iq
lmao
I didn't say that, I just said you're poor. Who knows, you could be a nagger too. You guys kill each other more than anyone else so there must be a lot of hatred there.
>replacing Malla Malmivaara
FUCK OFF REMEDYSHILL
bro... I am a remedy fan boy and even I think this is a dumb thing to say
Dumb nagger. That isn't a defense for what happened.
>The fact that both the actress and the character have norse ancestry and this being an important plot point is just a mere coincidence, she was always a placeholder for a nagger
fuck off
and the guy wasn't a placeholder or what?
he's the creative director, main writer, and the face of the company ever since max payne 1
nigga nothing was the case at the time, it was an Easter Egg in a game they don't even have the rights for, alluding vaguely to another game with another story that wouldn't be finished 8 years in the future and even then isn't completely finished.
if you actually cared about this issue like you want to pretend you do, you'd also be asking why Tim isn't called Jack, why Door isn't called Hax and why Alex isn't called Max. but you don't.
>it was an easter egg so it doesn't count
It was a teaser for AW2 called Return that was referenced in QB.
>but that doesn't count because I don't want it to
Lets also not ignore how it was directly referenced by Sam Lake after the fact. You're just defending a retarded change because you can't not criticize the game for some reason. Saga's race swap is a retcon and it is stupid, like all retcons are. No amount of seething on your part is going to change this fact.
>inb4 something racism you didn't paly the game
I did, I liked it. Saga being black is still stupid.
>it was a teaser therefore its absolute and unchangeable
okay, then why aren't you complaining that they've swapped places in the final product?
it wasn't a teaser. it was literally an Easter Egg. a teaser is when a company confirms a product before they can show a finalized product, which is something that they didn't have at the time for AW2; and even if they did, a game to change in 8 years of development, for better or worse.
>it was referenced by Lake in social media before the proof of concept stage was even finalized therefore its absolute and unchangeable
you're being a reductionist retard because you don't want to acknowledge that the plot has had these changes to increase the characters' (Door's and Saga's) stake in the story where otherwise they would feel entirely univolved when compared to Casey.
>muh racism! this will cover me from addressing the other points highlighting the issues the company suffered with copyright laws!
I'm way more racist than you are, swarthoid. the difference between you and me is that I can separate a black from a nagger. and you're acting like the latter.
>it wasn't a teaser. it was literally an Easter Egg.
>teaser: noun: a short introductory advertisement for a product
You can try to cope by saying "it was just an Easter egg" but that does not change how stupid you are.
You also keep mentioning her relation to Door as if it's important but it isn't. Her being related to him doesn't matter at all because it does nothing for the narrative. The only link to other characters that matters for her character is her relation to the Andersons. Door is basically a complete non-character for the entire game.
Saga getting race swapped is retarded and you are not mentally sufficient enough to actually explain why this isn't the case. you even ignored how Sam Lake directly referenced the teaser for AW2 in QB. Multiple people keep saying this to you in every thread you barge into; but you are a fucking idiot.
See the real proof is right here. Saga and Casey are standing shoulder to shoulder. Proper camaraderie between a woman and a man. Now after Sweetbaby came in, she's black and she's always feets apart from Casey. That's the proof, not the black washing but the forced social distancing because muh private space violation by white rapey male
You are literally retarded, lmao. The game also explicitly shows that they're good friends with each other.
>it was literally an Easter Egg
you keep pushing this false narrative in these threads, why?
How is it a false narrative? it's a night spring episode tier video that plays in a specific television in a game that makes few other mentions of AW or anything in its universe and none of them to the level that Control did. that's what an Easter Egg is. I'll raise the issue of copyrights again until your brain worms can squirm through the estrogen in it and make sense of what's being said: Remedy doesn't own the Quantum Break IP. They cannot officially use it nor announce other fucking games through it. Microsoft wouldn't let that happen. This is why Sam couldn't say "Alan Wake" instead of "missing writer" in the tweet you fucking retards treat as the holy grail, he's a copyrighted character from a copyrighted series of the same name, Saga and Casey weren't. This, too, changed.
I love how you ignored
Shut the fuck up, retard.
I admittedly replied to the wrong post in
meant for
, but you, too, refuse to answer accordingly to the post you replied to, I'm starting to think you're the same person.
Why didn't you address what was said about the other changes in your "Teaser"?
>removing her relation to him does not fucking change anything
It would change the lore established in the game using that fact; it would make seem Door look like an evil entity that took a hostage (Tim) for no reason other than his own, it would change the few things that we know are agreeable about him (PROTECTING HIS DAUGHTER LIKE SHE HERSELF IS DOING), It would even change the mechanics of what we know of Saga's mind place, since powers in the universe seem to have a hereditary effect, something, that once again, is related by the Andersons that had direct contact with him,
You're either an speedreader or you've never played this game in the first place.
Pretty much everything you've been poorly arguing about has been referenced and it's hilarious how you're trying to spin this onto idiocy anyone else. You somehow read "her father doesn't matter" as their relationship not being referenced at all in game. How you somehow reached this idiotic conclusion is beyond me and it's clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, especially since you keep trying to handwave away an official teaser for the game
>buhh they don't own the rights to the game
And? What the absolute fuck does that have to do with her depiction as a character? You keep ignoring how those two characters were directly referenced as Saga and Casey even back in 2015 yet you bring up name changes for no reason.
Saga being race swapped is stupid and the argument of her relation to Door doesn't matter because Door is a non-character. You act like her mind place is related to Door when the game tells you it's because of the Andersons. And you try to tell anyone else they didn't pay attention?
>YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME
Yeah, you're a schizo. Take your meds, nagger.
>door is a non character
lmao good try shitposter-kun
he's going to be the Thanos of the remedyverse
Yeah, he is a non character in AW2. He does nothing and his relation to people in the game changes nothing because he barely exists as an meaningful entity. You can change saga's father and her backstory would functionally be the exact same because the only thing that matters is Odin and Tor. You have not refuted this, again.
You only shitposter here is you.
For calling me a schizo you sure seem to think that different people are one, this is the third time you do this.
Door's introduction happens at the very beginning of the game by removing Tim from Saga's side of reality and continues affecting the game's world and story by helping Alan, whom he begrudgingly assists through the Dark Place, because that's what he is, a "Door", the primary way for Alan to move around different places within it.
>You can change saga's race and her backstory and actions would functionally be the exact same because the only thing that matters is her relation to the plot and the characters within it.
Two can play this game, btw.
>referenced
No, once again you're being reductive. It's not things that are referenced, they're positives, not allures. Please take time off jacking off to trannies and read something good in your life, you'll learn how literature and the usage of plot tools work.
>You somehow read "her father doesn't matter" as their relationship not being referenced at all in game.
Because those are the same statement. The primary driver of Door as a character in the game is that Alan involved her in his manuscript. This is not arguable. This is something that is told to you, directly, in-game.
>official teaser for the game
The absolute irony of your accusation of me trying to "handwave away" the "official teaser" while you try to christen it as canonical content while also dismissing events that happen IN THE GAME could kill a man if it had physical weight to it.
>no reason.
See? This is why I cannot take you seriously when you claim to have played this game. Casey was a character in the first game, a character like Wake killed off in his novel. You are misterpreting the problem with copyright that I bring up, on purpose, because you know otherwise you wouldn't have a point. Just like how you refuse to talk about the other changes in your teaser; so I'll bring them up again until you do or stop replying: accept that things have objectively changed from 8 years ago for reasons that exist within the game or stop replying.
>Door is a non-character.
False, he is one of the most important characters of the game with direct relation to the Dark Place and possibly the entire "Remedy universe" that they've introduced so far. You could say that he doesn't have enough screentime to warrant it and I would agree, but to say that he's a non-character is just bullshit.
>And you try to tell anyone else they didn't pay attention?
You're a retarded nagger. The mix between the Anderson and Door's blood brought upon an ability unforeseen by the Andersons, she's a Seer, unlike them.
>she's a Seer, unlike them.
I'd like to elaborate on this claim, but I had ran out of character space; I wanted to type that she's a Seer to a higher degree that they are.
Saga is able to communicate with Alan through the Dark Place, this is most likely because she's Door's daughter, who has actual real estate within it and can move people through it, seemingly freely. Additionally, she can even communicate with the Taken, something that the Andersons don't seem to be able to/care about doing, but the latter part is unclear, that'll probably be explained in the DLC since they've went into it. And on that note I agree with
Door deserved much more screentime in the actual game, but claiming that he's not important is naggery.
>Because those are the same statement.
congratulations, you are not only illiterate but also retarded. I even went into detail as to what that statement meant and you still somehow got confused by its meaning.
>other changes in the teaser
Again, such as? Saga and Casey's names? those are the same. The murder of Casey in Alan's novel? That's also the same.
>no the names of characters from another work that they don't own so the names obviously changed
Which isn't relevant to the discussion because we're talking about constants between the two series. Saga and Casey and the story in Alan Wake. Something you seem to not be able to grasp
>door is important
Except he isn't, I already specified as to why. The only thing he does in the story is kidnap the sheriff.
>saga is a seer unlike them
>when they know about her mind place and tell her about it in the first place since it's directly tied to the Anderson blood, as stated by them
Yeah, you're fucking stupid. you shouldn't tell anyone else they didn't "play the game" when this is the dumb shit you're starting to say now.
>congratulations, you are not only illiterate but also retarded.
Rich coming from you, especially when I've delineated the main reason why in the same paragraph and yet you don't talk about it.
>such as?
Why is Alan not there? Why is the room different? Why is the clues in the board different? Why does the real Casey die? Why are the sequence of events different? Why is Initiation not mentioned?
>we're talking about constants between the two series.
There is no official constant between QB and Alan Wake because there can't legally be until they either buy the IP or Microsoft somehow allows a collab between them.
>The only thing he does in the story is kidnap the sheriff.
These are words uttered by the utterly insane. You didn't play the game past the first episode.
>about saga
see
, though I'm sure you've ignored that post on purpose, that's the only way you can argue, having much in common with a tranny, kek
>Why is Alan not there?
For real? I'm gonna stop right here because you are clearly insane. Did you not look at the fucking teaser? Do you not know who shows up in it or is even narrating the fucking thing ? Why are you talking about something you didn't even pay attention to? Alan and Scratch both show up in the teaser you dumb mother fucker. Alan narrates the damn thing. And for as much as you keep going on and on about names changing in the teaser in comparison to the final product, everything is the same. Saga Anderson and Alex Casey both show up as those two characters in the video, FBI badges and all. There is absolutely zero reason to try and hold a discussion with an individual like you who is blatantly ignoring facts thrown in their face. And you have the audacity to claim that any one else is arguing in bad faith?
I meant why isn't he in the room with them you raging autist, I even used a correct timeline to refer to my questions.
>everything is the same
>except when I agree it isn't, provided by my own evidence
Your IQ is so below any other gorilla nagger I had the unfortunate circumstance to "discuss" with that I'm actually impressed, you couldn't even reply with your normal MO, so I accept your concession.
So much deflection without addressing the obvious, you falseflagging naggerhomosexual.
Once again you refuse to address why this mythical Teaser of yours has had changes in it other than one of the character's race and also refuse to acknowledge the other points brought up.
You're not arguing in good faith.
This assertion is furthered by your claim that Door's relation to Saga is irrevelant while mentioning the other Andersons while failing to acknowledge that they, too, mention Door.
There is an entire cutscene where Door DIRECTLY complains that Alan inserted his daughter in the story, a clear mirror to how Saga inserted her daughter into the story, both of which are happening at different points of time.
There is an entire character arc between Saga and the Andersons where one is attempting to get her to listen to an apology song which also allures to what happened to Door, with additional details being delivered through manuscripts and the like found in-game.
If you somehow decide to ignore my entire wall of text like the fucking nagger or troon you are, I want you to at least assess why this immutable "Teaser" of yours has had multiple changes apart from Saga, if you can't do that without conceding that more things changed from something made 8 years ago, don't bother replying.
>the teaser isn't real, it's just amyth
Lmao, now this is next level shitposting.
>But odin and tor also reference her father???
And this doesn't matter because removing her relation to him does not fucking change anything you dumb nagger. You can change her father and it won't do anything because the only thing that matters is her mother's side of the family.
The only person not arguing in good faith here is you. Now I can see why people think you're a schizo retard. These threads go to shit the second you show up. You're as bad as the autists screaming about the game without even having played it.
>have the perfect chance to actually bring finnish actors into the world stage
>swap her into a filthy sheboon nagger instead
I agree with the whole raceswapping part (one of the few games I will agree with /vpol/) but outside of Ahti why would they have North Europeans in a game that takes place in the Pacific Northwest following an FBI agent?
>everyone latches on to her even though she literally said nothing/did no actual acting.
>literal crickets regarding the characters from Control and Quantum Break that were changed to white from their placeholder versions
And yet you guys call others snowflakes.
>Quantum Break that were changed to white
There's someone else besides Hatch/Door and Tim?
Courtney's character in QB was originally someone else entirely in early footage.
Thought you meant someone from C/QB appearing in AW2. Kay.
It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for Saga to be totally purely white when her dad is black and her mom is white. Her dad is literally Mr. Door
You keep bringing this up when this wasn't the case at the time, it was changed later.
She is literrally a crappy shonen mc or jrpg mc
It's not fair. Glad I didn't spent money on this.
>another boogeyman
Come on lol every game they've contributed to have some fucking insane weirdo touches to them, it's not crazy to realize this company clearly is very hands-on.
It's not a "boogeyman" when it's right there staring you in the face.
You guys sound like you'd be a entertaining NPC faction in the game:
>literal fucking multidimensional viral threat to humanity
>"ACKSHUALLY NO, IT'S THE PENTECOSTALS THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY AYY LMAOS! I KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY SAID SO ON OAN!!"
And you sound like a homosexual.
Man, it must be hard to deflect when your company's own website proudly shows that yes, we were hired to shit these games up.
>a company full of of turbotroons of color
>flaunts that they are full of turbotroons of color
>gets paid top dollar to do sensitivity reading for AAA games
>said games end up being full of turbotroonery
>anonymous turbotroons mock anyone who points out the connection
Yes yes, and there is no slippery slope, and epstein did infact kill himself, something something steel beans. Now let me go get my tinfoil hat because clearly this is another conspiracy theory and im a chud. By the way, is their logo really a baby shaped lollipop? Yes, yes it is.
meds
now
You dont need to announce your HRT time.
I don’t even understand how this is revelatory or interesting in the slightest. Games are the most mass marketed, focus tested, soulless shit out there, why in gods name do you think that’s the one industry that wouldn’t be brimming with bullshit diversity consultants like every other industry in the western world.
Qrd?
A consulting company that's working with pretty much all of the vidya industry to make games more diverse. Their logo is a baby with a lollipop up its ass.
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEE NOT THE SWIRLS BRO
>the hiss got out
Looks like they didn't control it
The FBC is apparently incompetent according to AW2. I thought they weren't great in Control but this game makes it seem like they're all retards.
Well duh anon, its run by a woman now
They re armed with fallout 4 guns( lewis from ww1)
The first one was shit already so why expect anything different?
First one was absolute kino and only contrarian homosexuals disagree
It's going to be a "technical marvel" and it will have a 92 in metacritic.
So yeah, shit
Did people really like control? Seemed like female centric netflix garbage when I looked at the ad on ps. Maybe the gameplay is okay, but its got that hzd gow tolu writing that totally blows.
the worldspace was excellently crafted and it was fun to explore all the hidden locations, aside from that and some of the more impressive technical aspects the game was just basic slop that went in the way of the fun stuff.
the first game was amazing so I believe they will improve in 2
Remedy games are all flash and no substance. Lake is a hack.
They're pure gameplay
Third person shooters are practically filler gameplay, it just gets worse as you add cover systems and "stealth".
How have Kojima and Lake not made a game with each other yet? Are they just too much alike and would wrestle for creative Control? He already worked well with del Toro and others.
Kojima wants to make movies. Lake wants to make series. They're both hacks and will never break through into Hollywood, so they do the next best(?) thing, shitty videogames.
>They're both hacks and will never break through into Hollywood
Most of the people in Hollywood are hacks too.
Lake is just a writer and never pretended to be anything more
If they don't fix the awful gameplay, yeah.
I just want Alan Wake 3
Will it be less boring this time? "Floating red dudes" and telekinetic furniture are lame as fuck when you consider all the crazy shit in the source material Control is clearly drawing from.
Why do all Remedy games since Alan Wake 1 have fucking shit gunplay?
Gunplay in AW2 feels pretty good. I like when guns feel weighty in games. Good sound too.
Nice, I'm gonna buy it sometime this week.
moar
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If this game had any news. This would be my most anticipated game. Not only have remedy won me over as fan with Alan Wake 2 after disappointing me with Max Payne 1. But Control is a game that I feel like has SO MUCH potential to be a genuine masterpiece, and I like to have faith in sequels to grow and realize their potential. That's why I was so excited for TOTK after bouncing of BOTW hard and...it was better but...let's not talk about it.
Point is: Control has huge potential. If that potential is realized I think it could be a masterpiece. If it had a release date or any more consistent news it'd be my most anticipated after Silksong.
Remedy just released an investor report that Control 2 is moving along in proof of concept stage and that they are currently in preproduction for the Max Payne remakes
It'll be just fine. First game was pretty great, which is why all the no-game seethers ITT are spamming and trying to convince us otherwise.
I'm hoping for some changes in the sequel though: Since they're going for a Dark Souls-lite make it truly so with different factions you can join, grind for and even fight against. Some sort of pvp/invasion system would be interesting and could tie into the factions, but isn't a priority.
Also, having a procedurally generated game mode would be nice; some sort of end-game activity where you use the projector to jump into metaverse hellholes and kill or investigate shit to grind for resources/reputation: Kinda like the jukebox in the first game but with actually different levels every time you do it. This gameplay could also be used for a horde mode fragfest?
>you hungry senpai? i got some abalones here.
man, former truly was my bro in the end.
The foundation dlc really was a redemption arc of all time for him.
>that little "wave of goodbye" he does when you're climbing up a long cave corridor full of holes, towards the end of the dlc
Former/Fired is the best character in Control, though maybe neck-and-neck with Ahti.
I hope they completely rework the mod system that floods your inventory with garbage like "earn +5 souls every time you get hit by an explosion".
control is a weird game. it's simultaneously...how do I say this? "engaging, but boring" at the same time. Like when I first booted it up, I played for like 5 hours straight, and I DO NOT do that with videogames very often. Infact, whenever I try to play metroid prime, I have to stop playing after like 10 minutes because I'm bored. And before some retard screams "kek! zoomie!" I played super metroid, hollow knight, dark souls 1, and TOMB RAIDER for fucks sake, and all those games are not only 10x slower than Metroid Prime, but they're also 10x harder. There should be literally no filter. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying metroid prime is a bad game, infact I find it kinda interesting, I'm not even saying Control is a good game, infact I find it kinda monotonous. I just find it the contrasts interesting
If its the same shit about doing offices roguelike amd pretend scp kino its the agency instead of the creatures and +% stats as upgrades yes also no fucking covers when most enemies are same as quantum break
Control 2 isn't the next remedy game.
It's Control MP > Payne remasters and then maybe C2
I hope they manage to make Jesse an interesting protagonist this time around, because she was the most boring character in the first game. Casper Darling, Trench and Ahti were so much more charismatic.
That black lady also sucked, the cute scientist one was also boring. For as much as Remedy seems to be focusing on female characters, they sure can't write charismatic and interesting female characters.
The reason their female characters are so fucking boring is because their flaws can be summed up with "I'm too good at my job, tehee" that's literally the writing mentality behind their strong female characters. Meanwhile Trench and Darling are interesting bececause they're eccentric, fucking weird and also have actual flaws. What was the black lady's flaw? That she was too strong a warrior and it got her in trouble? I don't know, I can't even remember so I'm just guessing.
On some level it has to sting, the only characters anybody care about are the male ones but half the cast is female, they're just completely fucking forgotten and nobody gives a shit, not even women. Maybe if they sabotage the male characters in the sequel, the female ones will seem more interesting, that'll probably be the tactic they go for.
Jesse issue is that she is an autist that only talks to an alien polaroid in her head constantly
Hyperautistic protagonists are usually fine.
>their flaws can be summed up with "I'm too good at my job, tehee"
If you missed it, that was the whole point of the game.
Pay attention to the dialogue after you beat the final encounter and during the DLC. The message is literally "old white men did it poorly, we will do it much better now".
Still, great game and Darling was definitely the best character by far.
>Ahti
I dont understand the fellating this character gets. He's so intentionally quirky that it just felt forced to me.
>"old white men did it poorly, we will do it much better now".
Yeah but the problem I have with it is that the female characters are all boring, and the bad men are great. I really can't bring myself to seethe at the idea itself that women would take over from the men that have ran this thing into the ground, on paper that is a theme that could be interesting but it fails because of how one dimensional all the female characters feel.
Well yeah, obviously. The messaging fails.
And overall I agree, although I wouldnt want for it to be specifically "women take over from men".
I have doubts that Control 2 will be as good as the first one, but I hope they at least bring back Darling somehow.
I think it has every opportunity to be better. They're going to have a bigger budget and will be able to do more with it, which is promising.
Pretty sure Darling will be back as he's a fan favorite, also I don't know if you've played Alan Wake 2 yet but he's shown in there, and might also show up in the dlc for it, which will no doubt act as a teaser for Control 2.
Didnt like AW2, but we'll see.
I also think they are overdoing it with the crossovers.
I thought the AW references in Control were okay, but honestly I just think the shared universe thing lessens each other's stories/worldbuilding.
I really liked AW2 but I still agree with you on the crossover shit. It works well in small dosage, but I feel like it was a mistake to directly involve the FBC in not only the story of AW2 but in the climax of the story. It'd be like if Alan shows up in Control 2 to help Jesse defeat the final boss, it's stupid.
Ahti is a great character if you look past the lol quirky weird exterior and realize how absolutely fucking terrifying it must be to have someTHING like that just casually exist at your supersecret superspecial agency headquarters, not knowing what it wants and not being able to do anything about it.
i think that is the real sense of mystery that i love in these kinds of stories, games these days try to explain everything happening in them which just makes it feel like the developers can't accept that these things simply happen sometimes.
I prefer straight janitors like willy from the simpsons
I think she was pretty "blank slate"-ish to make her easier to identify with for the player.
Lake is shit at writing females.
If they somehow manage to make Jesse even MORE uglier, then yeah.
I just hope they have more varied environments and enemies this time around
its going to be just another jensen tech demo. not worth anyones time. only good for showcasing nvidias latest meme tech
the first one was extra shit, why would I have any expectations about more shit?
i don't know but i bet the main character will be even uglier
i don't like weird games. like shit that happens in some alternate reality. enemies that look like humans, a protagonist that is human, a world that looks like any normal city but SUDDENLY EVERYBODY HAS SUPER POWERS OR THE WORLD WARPS AND CHANGES AND THE PROTAGONIST CAN FLY!111 i just want a good god damn third person shooter with a good story. you shoot the enemy in the head, it dies, you move on. max payne was exactly that, except for the nightmare levels.
The Division 1/2 sounds more your jam?
>enemies that take a dozen rifle rounds to the head
it was okay, but not really good. i just want remedy to make another max payne. man, gun, bullet time, writing heavy on the metaphors.
I don't know how far I got in Control, but I dropped I think like maybe not even halfway through, it was just super fucking boring. The ambience and atmosphere were god-tier, and it looked amazing, but just walking around with the occasional boss/fight was boring. It felt like I was playing a Resident Evil game with less horror and less gameplay, like more exploration and spooky vibes. It's not like I had zombies and monsters jumping out at me.
It's made by non Americans so most likely it'll be shit
How's the DLC for the first one? I played the main game and loved the atmosphere and setting but thought the gameplay was pretty average
the foundation is mostly just caves but there was this one part with the proper bureau which was fun to explore. the second dlc takes place exclusively in the bureau and has some really interesting AWE's to explore, the main boss is kind of gimmicky and the game generally takes a more horror-like direction with the second alan wake dlc.
Remedy outsources to "sensitivity firms." Of course it will be shit.
just like the first
good graphics though
Jesse will be replaced with Tichondrius Jefferson, a black trans "woman". Other than that, it'll be fine.
>burger time on Ganker
When will it release?
Probably not before 2025
Yeah. Shittier than the 1st one atleast. Either a monkey sidekick or something like alan woke.
Once le woman spruced up the old house, it was time to being it into the modern era!!
I miss him already
whatever even happened to him?
I only remember his last video, where he was without clothes and sayin this is the last tiem we see him. Was there anything else to that?
he managed to go into the multiversal fold like he wanted to do much and is now taking the role of "observer". as far as we know he hasn't actively acted for or against the characters like Door has done.
Citation? For all we know he might have jumped into some dimensional rift and become a demigod, disintegrated into anti-matter or just gotten stranded on one of those Halflife Xen floating islands.
The only certainty is he's disappeared; no body found.
in Control his recordings are referring to events that are currently happening, implying that he has some ability to either:
1) see the future from the past and time his deliveries into the present
2) interact with the linear present outside of it
apart from that it's up to interpretation, and I believe that's the point
in AW2 it's far more remote, it's like he Hotline'd Jesse into Alan's dark place, we'll learn more in the DLCs, hopefully
After seeing what they did to Alan Wake 2?
Yes. Its gonna be hot fucking garbage.
Baffling how this tranny faced game got another entry lol
The problem with Control is mostly with it's characters. The general story, universe, are pretty solid, and visual art style and art direction are incredible. But the characters and the actors playing them are so fucking bad it feels like high school theater hour. It's atrocious. I hate video games.
Just downloaded the ultimate edition from fitgirl. Is the game fun?
It's pretty cool. It's basically a 3ps Ocarina of Time/X-Files in brutalism milieus.
>manjaws 2
The Board is kino
It's nice they're kinda ambiguous assholes; they seem to have humanity's continued existence in mind, but they very much have their own agenda.
>it's going to be shit isn't it?
>First game comes out, is fucking shit
>Sequel comes out
Will it be good you guys? Literally no one asked for this...
Look at alan woke and figure out
I think it might be better than the AW2, but that's not a high bar.
just like the first game
>mom can we have an SCP game
>we have an SCP game at home
I'm looking more forward to it then I was with more Alan Wake
Door is DLC bait.
So when does AW2 take place in relation to Control since they say in the game the Oldest House is still dark
Yea
I'm interested in how they'll try to tie more Finno-Ugric and Saami mythologies into the game.
Foundation and Nail are directly taken from Saami myths. Nail holds the sky in place and connects it to the ground. Polaris is the focal point of the Nail in the night sky. The sky works as a barrier from the forces beyond, meaning dead souls etc. And Foundation is the world of the living.
Who the fuck cares when Sweetbaby has shat up the ingame mythos already
that's kind of insensitive, saami people are the most oppressed minority in finland.
Alan Wake 1 > Quantum Break > Control > Alan Wake 2
The first game was so fucking boring, I don't get why some people like it
I don't like the setting, but I can see the appeal, but the gameplay is just objectively shit
Can't spell snowflake without lake! Sam the Snowflake! Hukhujikukj
Ignoring all this /misc/ seething, there is not much hope for it to be good. The first game was plain, repetitive and the settings was bland as fuck in comparison to original SCP universe. There isn't much interest, because first game wasn't anything memorable or special.
Literally finished Control yesterday. Game was terrible. They took one encounter and stretched it out for an entire game. The combat is as shallow as a puddle. The map is terrible and just serves to waste to time going through sterile offices and never ending doors.
My guess is that the only people praising this game don't actually play other games. Which is why journalists blew their load over it.
Feces. Feces. Feces.