Mages bought a lot of dead IPs from Elf Corporation, which they made horribly bad anime adaptions from instead of respecting the source material and just leaving them alone. Frick Mages.
It came out in the neo-golden age of japanese mystery fiction. There’s a developer called Happymeal that makes games inspired by FDC but they’re all untranslated atm
I'm surprised no one has ever gotten Shimada or one of his crew to write a mystery game. Shin Honkaku's whole deal is that it's a puzzle first and a story second, their style would work really well for a game
A decagon house murders game would be insane. You have to cheat a little bit in the adaptation for it to work in any medium outside of books, but it's doable.
yep, got a remake and an english release which was unusual since Mage usually doesnt do that. Great games too. Its 100% still the NES game but with modern graphics. Kind of clunky but part of the game
Ubisoft also collapsed, and blizzard needs to sell, the first sign of a crash is companies selling wich has been going on for a while
The second is new players, like fortnite, genshin impact, nikke and indies , wich also has been going on for a while
>""""""""""video game"""""""""" developer
Nice, hopefully more VNshit companies will go belly up. They should have stick to making movies instead of shitting up gaming industry.
There was a time when VN developers were more self-aware.
Phantom of inferno for example got released as animeplayDVD (chose your own adventure movie) in the west.
Their developer mages (they cast spells that turn into games) entered their game dev atelier that is called 'Insolvency' to work on their new science-themed adventure game.
S;G is trash and so are it's fans, good riddance. S
>In December 2022, it was reported that Mages would enter insolvency as a result of financial losses of ¥613,000 million (approximately US$4.6 million). >In January 2023, Chiyomaru Shikura announced via Twitter that he would resign as company Chairman and Executive Director, but stated that he would still be part of Mages as an Executive Producer.
"In a rather public case of crossed wires, MAGES. president Chiyomaru Shikura announced on Twitter that he filed a copyright strike against HOLOSTARS Virtual YouTuber Minase Rio's Anonymous;Code livestream on Thursday. He complained that the VTuber streamed the game beyond the point that the company allows permission for, and said that he has taken action as the original creator. The video was subsequently removed from YouTube.
Both Chiyomaru and the Science Adventure Twitter had to make hasty apologies soon afterwards, however, because it turned out that the company had already made an agreement with Rio's agency beforehand to permit the stream. The corporate apology was so hasty, in fact, that it spelled Rio's name wrong and had to apologize for that as well in a separate tweet."
It was the vtubers that destroyed the company hahahaha
you didn't answer my question, they LOST 4.6 million dollars in one year.
people not buying your shit doesn't actively take money away from your bank account.
It does if you spend money manufacturing and creating product that you expect to sell but it doesn't due to a boycott. Americans literally do not know how to boycott like the superior Japanese.
Both MAGES. and Colopl said that Anonymous;Code sold well, it's not the reason why they went bankrupt.
Wasn't he sued back? He literally sued a someone who had the permissions to stream already and those agencies are powerful.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you don't need to be powerful when the person suing you makes such a huge blunder that you'd have lawyers lining up at your door to take your case for a guaranteed payday
How can he be such an idiot? Shouldn't he know about any deals made? If he didn't know then he was in no position to say anything about it. How did he even find out about her stream in the first place? This looks like an intern mistake.
How the frick is key still going, what was even their last good VN? rewrite was such a shitshow.
little busters was meh.
clannad,key,kanon was their last good vns.
They don't even get anime anymore.
I only liked a few of their games and the rest are middling or just plain bad. I imagine they've lasted so long from milking Clannad and Planetarian for years. Or they're just more popular in nipland in general and we all know they're the ones more likely to pay for VNs anyway. That aside Tsui no Stella is kamige, look forward to it.
>How the frick is key still going, what was even their last good VN? rewrite was such a shitshow. >little busters was meh. >clannad,key,kanon was their last good vns. >They don't even get anime anymore.
That mobile game Heaven Burns Red definitely brought them back though time will tell Maeda will get out his funk again.
That shit capitalize the lack of yuri in the mobile market besides its really quality you can explore the city like if were an rpg and meet up with the different girls hanging around at specific times. Feels a litte Persona.
That shit capitalize the lack of yuri in the mobile market besides its really quality you can explore the city like if were an rpg and meet up with the different girls hanging around at specific times. Feels a litte Persona.
Key is trash now and Maeda is a bigger hack than ever before, he went off the deep end after his heart surgery
Wrote an autobiography novel about himself, but in it he's actually a middle aged depressed lesbian instead, who preys on younger girls. The guys is embracing his inner troony and HBR is the product of his sick mind, utter yurislop garbage to fill a niche in the mobage market.
He told all fans of his previous works that they should frick off if they don't like his troony novel, and he won't write a VN ever again, as mobage is the future.
Look at the garbage original anime Natta hi anime he did 3 years ago, another rushed nonsensical flop like Charlotte, not to mention Prima Doll was shit as well despite them shilling it heavily with A-list VAs. They also won't ever finish the AB VN because of his deplorable attitude towards VNs and heterosexual nip otaku.
Key has lot all its soul and Maeda is a troony sellout, same with R07. He will end up rebooting Clannad soon and change the characters to dykes or gays who adopted a kid instead, or use key magic to have gay babies.
I only liked a few of their games and the rest are middling or just plain bad. I imagine they've lasted so long from milking Clannad and Planetarian for years. Or they're just more popular in nipland in general and we all know they're the ones more likely to pay for VNs anyway. That aside Tsui no Stella is kamige, look forward to it.
if the e-girl dies again I'm not touching it. One Planetarian destroying my soul was enough.
At the end of the day S;G is still the highest rated VN of all time and you're still some random Ganker loser with a worthless opinion nobody gives a shit about.
I didn't know Steins;Gate worshippers still existed after 2018. And SciADV fans in general. They're literally going backrupt after pushing stinker after stinker and this is a thread to make fun of them and you're still placing hope in them. >Ganker
Go back
The Platinum Era of VN market is long gone. Mages. going bank;rupt is just another member of the old era dying off.
VN writers continues to exist, of course, but they've moved in to the Gacha market where adding a predatory gambling aspect is way more profitable than being a simple and honest one-and-done box purchase. It's far less in-depth, sadly, you're paying out the nose for basically brief scenes with a character instead of getting fully-realized stories.
nah, I thought the Campos Santos troony at Valve blocked it. Unless Gabe personally told the moron off and greenlit it through.
but it's not like a single old game localized to EN was gonna save them in any case.
Maho looks far hotter in that artwork than she does in the actual VN.
Maybe I would have liked her a bit more if she actually looked like that.
Okabe looks different too. Better as well. He still looks like a psychologically fractured person here, but he looks like a psychologically fractured person that was better designed than picrel.
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To be fair, Okabe in the cover looks like he's in his late 20s or 30s. You wouldn't expect him to be a 19 year old uni student if you didn't know anything about the story.
Maho also looks like a Kurisu clone there, while she has a unique silhouette in the game
Huke obviously puts more effort into the cover arts though, for some reason. I still love how ethereal the original looks
>You wouldn't expect him to be a 19 year old uni student
You would'nt know he was a student if you read the story either tbf. Nothing other than a coupel offhand remarks by braun make it seem like he's enrolled and he never goes to class or does schoolwork. IDK why they didn't just make him a neet
1 year ago
Anonymous
He meets Kurisu in a lecture hall, and she obviously wouldn't have chemistry with him if he was an uneducated bumfrick NEET
It's summer so he doesn't have classes, he just goes to seminars for networking I think,
He goes to classes in 0 (which is in winter) and joins shit like the tennis club
He also needs to be a student for him to be involved with Leskinen/Amadeus in the first place
1 year ago
Anonymous
My first 2 times I watched the original I thought he just showed up to a random lecture cause it's the only time he does. Wasn't until 0 that him being a student really came up
Not a huge deal though I probably would like the original more if 0 didn't frick with the canon so hard
1 year ago
Anonymous
It didn't frick with it at all. It just removed the asspull aspect of the true ending of the original
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You would'nt know he was a student if you read the story either tbf.
Anon? You're told in the very first 15 mins of VN that he attended to school.
the non-steam PC version is a gimped bad port with graphics downscaled to 1024x576. if you want a physical copy consider any other version.
unfortunately the best versions of the game, the revised PC port and the PS4 port, are digital only, and the latter is now also permanently unobtainable as it was only available as a code with an expiration date that passed.
How about the one on surugaya?
I don't mind it not being translated. I just want a physical version, preferably not gimped.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the non-gimped PC port is steam only. if you buy a japanese boxed copy, it will still be the old 1024x576 version.
if you can settle for that, you may as well get the english boxed version.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i'll just give a qrd on each version:
360 version is 1280x720. it got patched later on to censor the game by raising character ages. the platinum hits version has the patch that censors it integrated.
first PC version is lower res at 1024x576. this was the first version that got localized. this had the negative effect that in all future localized versions, the translated CGs had to be upscaled from 1024x576.
PSP, iOS and android versions are ported to a different engine that can't animate graphics as well, so they look a bit noticeably worse.
PS3 version is 1280x720, it supports 1080p output but it's just upscaled.
vita version has no technical issues but IIRC is cropped slightly horizontally to fit the odd aspect ratio screen (30:17 instead of 16:9)
PS4 version was remastered at 1920x1080, but only released in japan, via a code given with physical copies of steins;gate 0
steam version is based on the PS4 version, but switched to a different video codec and all in-game videos have very bad audio quality due to it, you need a mod to fix this
1 year ago
Anonymous
>you need a mod to fix this
wtf I didn't know this
All this physical talk just makes me regret the fact that I gave away my PS3 a few years ago.
Eh? There weren't really that many physical releases of it that are localized that weren't released on snoystation, though from this comment chain I did learn that there is apparently a physical PC version which I had no idea about. I have a 360 JP copy myself.
if such big company became like this what happens to small ones
S;G makes them money. But everything after it was sub-par and also Chiyomaru got too ambitious and invest on stupid shit.
If they're still owned by kadokawa, none of this would happen
Serves them well for not ending Stein Gate with Mayuri true route ending. Fans simply lost interest and stopped supporting them. Kurisu was always shit
Microsoft was in that phase where they were paying out the ass for Japanese exclusives since XBox had a reputation as a western-only console. Coincidentally we got a lot of forgotten kino like resonance of fate and last remnant.
This. Key (Maeda), Uchikoshi and R07's brand has been ruined by the woke west.
Sca-ji is next.
What people don't realize is that hardcore nip otaku and the writers who make stuff for them and also identify as such, were always societies outcasts in Japan. Falling into degenerate hobbies like eroge and porn, and late night otaku anime/manga in general is the opposite of conservative nips mindsets and thought of as pathetic.
It's literally part of the path for any otaku/anime making company to eventually go woke, because they were always on the road leading there to begin with.
They also went after streamers who played the Konosuba games with separate copyright strikes at a go resulting in instant channel deletions, got a lot of bad rap for that.
Because we're in a generation where kids don't play video games anymore (aside from the big live service stuff like Fortnite and CoD). They all watch their favourite streamers play the game and that's it. Smart companies salvage this situation by encouraging streamers to shill their game so their zoomie fanbases buy anyways. Dumb boomers like the guy mentioned just DMCA everything hoping that people curious about the game will buy it if they have nowhere to watch it. This usually backfires because streamers have a lot of clout these days and can tank your game from bad word of mouth alone (if someone like Gura says not to buy your game because the company is getting into a legal batter with her you're going to see A LOT of angry simps online).
With science adventure you could argue about VNs, but they did it to the fricking Konosuba shooting game too so I don’t know. They were just moronic, and this is where it put them.
The Konosuba shooting game has literally zero story and is pure action and they struck anyone who uploaded videos without permission even though they didn’t block video recording/streaming on the consoles.
Would people really just watch a whole game with somebody else talking over it instead of playing it themselves? It's like movie camrips, how many people actually watch those instead of just buying a ticket?
Their goodwill was already spent from when they issued strikes on a pure action game
The Konosuba shooting game has literally zero story and is pure action and they struck anyone who uploaded videos without permission even though they didn’t block video recording/streaming on the consoles.
that the consoles didn’t block streaming/recording on
1 year ago
Anonymous
I want to emphasize that that was an old timey arcadey “get a high score” game and that the consoles didn’t block videos
>record a stage where you get a high score >share the video using the console’s built-in share functions
>youtube account banned
And Chiyomaru just acted smug about it and tweeted “if you want to upload videos get permission first”
1 year ago
Anonymous
> And Chiyomaru just acted smug about it and tweeted “if you want to upload videos get permission first”
The vtuber thing exploded because he tweeted that again when doing it but the vtuber (who, again, DID get permission from Mages)
Because contrary to popular belief zoomers don't buy games just because their favorite twitch shills play it. They just watch them being played.
It's a complicated situation. Arguably fortnite benefits from streaming as it doesn't require large numbers of players (ironically) what it needs is whales, and children trying to emulate their e-celebs combined with absentee parents will run up large bills buying cosmetics.
But other games where it's primarily a simple one-time cash purchase are harmed massively by streaming. Zoomers overwhelmingly would rather just watch a game be played on stream than buy it themselves. But not even Nintendo could weather the massive negative press caused by preventing streaming and so only the bravest try and quite frankly die on the sacrificial alter to the old world.
Sometimes you get a flappy bird where a totally irrelevant unknown rockets into stardom thanks to a streamer, but mostly you get the opposite, where you gain millions of new Persona "fans" but mostly the kind of "fan" who has never bought any of your games.
>Overall, Persona 5 has sold 8.3 million units globally
Talking out your ass to shit on a strawman, classic
1 year ago
Anonymous
You picked the worst example. P5 was launched during old Atlus: no streaming, massive takedowns. Sold by the truckload.
P5 PC launched with new Atlus: streaming okay... meh sales.
Obviously it's hard to say if the meh was because of streaming or not because, let's face it, PC ain't all that and the game had already had its day in the sun.
Market research has established that while it’s true that a lot of viewers won’t buy the games, they never would have to begin with. But there IS a fraction of viewers who do go out and buy the games, and streaming does have a positive effect on sales barring cases like Balan Wonderworld or Left Alive where the game is shit.
>But other games where it's primarily a simple one-time cash purchase are harmed massively by streaming.
Do you have a single piece of evidence to back this up?
>where you gain millions of new Persona "fans" but mostly the kind of "fan" who has never bought any of your games.
Such a tragedy that the only way to make money from video games is by selling them
In a rather public case of crossed wires, MAGES. president Chiyomaru Shikura announced on Twitter that he filed a copyright strike against HOLOSTARS Virtual YouTuber Minase Rio's Anonymous;Code livestream on Thursday. He complained that the VTuber streamed the game beyond the point that the company allows permission for, and said that he has taken action as the original creator. The video was subsequently removed from YouTube.
Both Chiyomaru and the Science Adventure Twitter had to make hasty apologies soon afterwards, however, because it turned out that the company had already made an agreement with Rio's agency beforehand to permit the stream. The corporate apology was so hasty, in fact, that it spelled Rio's name wrong and had to apologize for that as well in a separate tweet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Vtuber streaming and advertising that garbage A;C >copyright strike the guy and brag on twitter
I don't know which is more stupider; Making Chaos;Child Xbox One exclusive and killing it or that.
Any other sane company would've milked STEINS;GATE for profit, but they insist on pulling this marvelshit with their schizophrenic adventure universe.
Where the frick is STEINS;??? you morons?
>Any other sane company would've milked STEINS;GATE for profit
Why would you want this aside from cute Steins Gate worldline Okabe/Kurisu fluff with them becoming an official couple, which they wouldn't even fricking do
On the contrary, I think it works pretty well how Nasu built that world, setting classes, an RPG system, the multiple 3 routes that differ each other greatly. It's not just Saber, all the 7 servants literally made fans wet into imagining their local heroes as one.
What if x was a cute girl has been the majority of Japan's cultural export for the last 2-3 decades, at some point you stop questioning why Hephaestus is a happy-go-lucky redhead with big breasts rather than a deformed cripple and accept that at least it's not America's what if x was a Black person
With type moon works because they introduced fricking tons of character and a lore that can be developed in multiple storylines. Also for Fate, the idea you can summon heroes of the past work like charm for any other writer to replicate Shirou and create its own waifu/husbando
I don't know shit about the original R;N release, but Elite was actually way fricking better than I anticipated. It's slow as frick, but it was interesting in most aspects. Too bad DaSH is some of the worst trash I have read.
They should've made a SciADV JRPG (a la Persona 5) at least 4 years ago, no wonder the studio is forced to close its doors now, visual novels (esp SFW ones) are an incredibly small market. Don't even need amazing graphics, something like AI Somnium but a JRPG would've sold buckets.
Serves them right for not releasing A Steins:Gate ost vinyl. Anyone more business savvy know what this means for their current projects and future? Could some angel investor save them?
They went creatively bankrupt when they launched that garbage sequel anyway so good riddance. Hopefully no new steins;gate content ever gets made and we can just pretend the first vn/season is all that existed.
>if they bundle it up with an exclusive like Linear Bounded Phenogram, it would get sales
There's no more exclusives to bundle it up with.
Man, it could be nice if they made a collection of the Drama CDs turned into VNs and bundled that as an exclusive bonus game with the purchase of 0 Elite.
>Drama CDs turned into VNs
I meant "a VN". As in LBP which is a collection of original stories in separate worldlines that never came to be and stay as What Ifs in the canon.
Grouping a number of Drama CDs as a LBP2 or whatever other name could be nice.
Could take the chance and take in that one light novel about the outcome of the Alpha worldline and all. Lost Valhalla or something.
>if they bundle it up with an exclusive like Linear Bounded Phenogram, it would get sales
There's no more exclusives to bundle it up with.
Man, it could be nice if they made a collection of the Drama CDs turned into VNs and bundled that as an exclusive bonus game with the purchase of 0 Elite.
while it would be moronic as there's no direct relation, they could do C;H LCC, it has no modern console release nor localization so they could use it as a bonus worldwide and on every platform
more relevant they could perhaps do hen'i kuukan no octet, as it only got an old non-steam PC release and fan translation
pretty much, the VN market is incredibly niche and for the most part PC only. Most famous VN you might have heard about have actually had their studios go bankrupt, or bought out, or they just make eroge/gacha. Or ironically they tried to make gacha and went bankrupt from doing that, dont ask how.
Muv-Luv for example which is regarded as the #1 VN in the world went bankrupt ages ago.
Upon reelase, Kuro 2 sold around the same numbers as Kuro 1, and Kondo confirmed that Kuro 1 had flopped, so...
1 year ago
Anonymous
I played both. Kuro 1 was fine really but the shit they did at Kuro 2 besides the plot literally didn't move at all it barely gave answer to anything in the first game and just focused a lot in Nadia/Swin
>get bought out by investment group >investment group is putting the cost of that transaction on your account >you are now millions in the red >if only one of your titles under performs its pretty much over for you as you can't pay your bills anymore
Well Chiyomaru didn’t have to cause a boycott and torpedo sales for the biggest title they ever made just because he wanted to power trip and act smug on twitter.
Quickly fellow nerds, Einstein left behind a QR code at a Japanese merch store and WE need to transcribe and decode its meaning to SAVE tHE WORLD from the evil organization -Nasa- which wants to go back in time and eliminate the speed of light so they can reach other Galaxies faster!
Its almost...ALMOST as if that company was always mediocre and Stein Gate was always overrated. People should replay that game. There's so much fricking anime tropes and dumb plotlines full of plotholes it's amazing how it got popular in mainstream while Ever17 is still unknown to normies. Its the same with western games where crap like Fallout 4 is more known than Planescape Torment.
>anime tropes
it's meant to be reminiscent of late 2000's otaku culture >plot holes
name one, you are moronic.
I've reread it 5 times, you just have a chronic case of shit taste
>name one, you are moronic
NTA, but compressing all of a human's memories and experiences into only 36 bytes is just unfeasible no matter how you slice it, blackhole technology or not it's literally just 36 ASCII symbols, this is dumb as frick
>plot holes >names sci-fi mechanics
Holy frick you're right, they should've published an actual paper to figure out how to upload and compress human memories into data. Fricking hacks
>love Fallout 4 and replay it every year >tried Planescape Torment once, got stuck in a cave, literally could not escape because every attack is a dice roll because LOL thac0 combat system!
And hmm, would you look at that, Black Isle went bankrupt ages ago and Bethesda has a new came launching in a few weeks.
Someone else said Ever 17 is bretty gud in a thread like a week or so ago
Is it dating and eroge centric garbage or does it blend that stuff like S;G did tastefully?
Or is it just a good story?
It was a cash grab trying to bank on their one good story but they just made the original worse but putting in a ton of new canon and timelines and shit.
Also going back to the heat death of the universe just to frick a moronic girl is hilarious
Yeah I don't know Japanese constellation lore so I don't understand a shitty time travel story.
SG anime is the only shit worth watching out of Science Adventure and that's just cause White Fox cut out all the awful writing
As near as I can tell Stein's Gate had a gimmick, that Toodaloo character which created an emotional impact in the cold hearts of hikkikomoris and that is why it succeeded.
The problem might be the voice actors, the music, the publisher. Those might be really expensive for small teams, reminder that if you want to sell at least you need to use a popular VA or singer most of the time in japan.
If they are eroge you do that but when its all ages, for consoles, you really need those because otherwise the games go under but those VA agency can literally give them exposure.
A lot of novels has this problem. They are harem with many but either one or two the only good routes, or sometimes true ending literally has (you) dying or not going with anyone. Single heroine can be really dull or maybe secondary characters are better than the whole cast with writers acting surprised they win fan poll over their "beloved" heroines.
It should be fine. Chiyomaru's company is separate as far as I'm aware. This would be like if Nintendo went bankrupt and Sakurai had to go somewhere else for his Kirby shit
The movie is a good companion piece to 0 because they both show why making alternate universe spin offs of a popular show just waters dwon the original
1 year ago
Anonymous
You have literally zero arguments as to how 0 breaks the canon
gonna read Chaos Child/Head Switch version. Is there anything I need to know? I heard the translation wasnt the best? Did that re-translation patch ever come through? I could use my Steam Deck I guess.
I liked the murder mystery aspect of C;C and it has some really strong moments, but dear fricking god that ending was disgustingly bad. They also retread the peak of the story that it starts to fizzle a little and then to top it all off they dropped massive sequel bait that we know will never be fulfilled.
Dunno, i'd say psychopass mandatory happiness was good (carried by urobuchi) and i actually liked chaos head/child.
But ye, its a garbage shovelware company that cant even get corpse party blooddrive on the vita to run properly.
Literally to unskilled to make a rpg maker game
this is what you get for making one of the best time travel VN's, one of the best vn's pretty much of all time, and not giving us more alternate time lines to read about
Cope!
Nasu is laughing his way to the bank while the rest of these frauds are steadily going out of business.
Ryutroony07 is next on the chopping block.
Ryu07 isn't in any danger of going broke. He's writing Silent Hill right now and laughing his ass off knowing full well we're gonna go and check every toilet in town looking for drowned Rikas.
Seems like they were very lazy. Steins Gate is not even translated in that many languages on steam. Only english, japanese and chinese. They missed out on a lot of weeb sales.
The same smug /jp/ homosexuals that said 0 was good and better than the original said the rest of the franchise is good. I'm not falling for that shit ever again.
Before it was translated yes. They kept saying it was better than the original best SciADV ever. Same reason the muh EOP doesn't work on me. The homosexuals shilling untranslated porn games and visual novels apparently can't read it either.
Not really, he only translated Steins;Gate (and even that was mostly translated by BlickWinkel, AFAIK). He's also currently translating Anonymous;Code. He did want to translate the other SciADV VNs, but he got cucked by MAGES.
Him and back then everyone took his word as gospel truth and worshipped him. Before it came out in English no one said wow this is dogshit. Anyone that said they played it in Japanese hyped it up. Even after all the plastic surgery and how disjointed and abrupt the "true ending" was. Anonymous;Code and Robotic;Notes DASH barely anyone played and I don't even know have English releases or not and people said yeah they're trash.
>Anonymous;Code and Robotic;Notes DASH barely anyone played and I don't even know have English releases or not and people said yeah they're trash.
I thought Anonymous;Code was a kamige?
1 year ago
Anonymous
So this guy is just as much of a hack as all the writers right? That or he's a groveling brown nosing shill begging for work. He only moved 0 down after it became consensus that 0 fricking sucks. I've only heard from Ganker that the new one ranges from mediocre to shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He also used to say that R,N DaSH was in the top 3 best SciADV VNs and that it was a huge improvement over R;N
1 year ago
Anonymous
>and that it was a huge improvement over R;N
It is.
1 year ago
Anonymous
"lol", "lmao"
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yes DaSH is improvement over R;N. I mean did you even play original R;N?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you confusing R;N DaSH with R;N Elite, or do you just have really shit taste?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Are you confusing R;N DaSH with R;N Elite
Yes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>LOL GUYS REMEMBER DARU >HE'S 30 YEARS OLD, MARRIED, BUYS EROGE AND JERKS OFF TO e-girl PORN >HE'S SUCH A CARICATURE ISN'T HE LOLOLOLOL
They removed any depth and development Daru had in S;G and 0. It's abhorrent
>Before it came out in English no one said wow this is dogshit. Anyone that said they played it in Japanese hyped it up
This is just a lie. Ganker archives exist and can prove you wrong. I have no idea why are you trying to push this shit when 0 wasn't even beloved by japs like original.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No. The schizo shitposter is sperging against windmills.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/322489337/#q322496901
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/137631667/#137641433
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/135382399/#135388160
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/338859319/#338861045
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320469364/#320474621
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320879847/#q320879847
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/344390463/#q344444249
There. I'm not going to dig through thousands of Steins;Gate threads and Kurisu waifu threads but this is just some of it. Sure there were a very few people that said it was mediocre or worse than the original but for every one of those there were 100 homosexuals repeating hearsay from Steiner hyping it up or other Anons repeating hearsay from an Anon that said he read it in Japanese and it was better than the original. So yes a lot of it was excited rose tinted Anons echoing what they wanted to believe about the game but it did exist. And a lot of it was because that flip floppy homosexual e-celeb that translated the games. Frick yourself.
It's always about exclusivity with /jp/sies, not actual quality. If they can circlejerk away from the rest of the anglophones it's good, if they can't it's bad.
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https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/322489337/#q322496901
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/137631667/#137641433
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/135382399/#135388160
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/338859319/#338861045
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320469364/#320474621
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320879847/#q320879847
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/344390463/#q344444249
There. I'm not going to dig through thousands of Steins;Gate threads and Kurisu waifu threads but this is just some of it. Sure there were a very few people that said it was mediocre or worse than the original but for every one of those there were 100 homosexuals repeating hearsay from Steiner hyping it up or other Anons repeating hearsay from an Anon that said he read it in Japanese and it was better than the original. So yes a lot of it was excited rose tinted Anons echoing what they wanted to believe about the game but it did exist. And a lot of it was because that flip floppy homosexual e-celeb that translated the games. Frick yourself.
I remember many a S;G thread where people would claim it was flawless and brilliant too. Some of it was just because Steiner was trusted but it was also what I described above.
Yeah I don't know what this revisionist history that people always hated 0 is about. People only shit on 0 now after knowing Steins;Gate isn't infallible. Back then people would never have even considered it. This series was a sacred cow worshipped at the altar you couldn't dare say anything bad about. The anime of 0 came out and was even worse than the VN and people just said yeah it's bad from then on. The thing is the movie came out before 0 and it was a complete pile of shit too and people were able to overlook it because it "wasn't canon" and it had a ton of Kurisu fanservice. If a new Steins;Gate sequel came out now no one would expect it to top the original let alone be any good.
Yeah I don't know what this revisionist history that people always hated 0 is about. People only shit on 0 now after knowing Steins;Gate isn't infallible. Back then people would never have even considered it. This series was a sacred cow worshipped at the altar you couldn't dare say anything bad about. The anime of 0 came out and was even worse than the VN and people just said yeah it's bad from then on. The thing is the movie came out before 0 and it was a complete pile of shit too and people were able to overlook it because it "wasn't canon" and it had a ton of Kurisu fanservice. If a new Steins;Gate sequel came out now no one would expect it to top the original let alone be any good.
Read the entire series so far on my Vita and Switch, but I've been told those translations are wrong and I'm wrong for having enjoyed them despite being able to spot the mistakes the translators made. This series is not fun to talk about with others at all.
They're illustrations in a cosplay book given out / sold at Science Adventure Live 2018 - SINGULARITY. And no-one who got a copy scanned it as far as I'm aware which is supremely irritating.
Asking seriously, wasn't there supposed to be a western adaptation of SG? If they sold rights to that to get made, surely they could hang in there for some more years no?
>no one buys chaos head noah because people are waiting for the fan patch >they frick up their deadline and still haven't released it >company dies in the meantime
Probably didn't actually matter much in the grand scheme of things but lol
they were in financial issues for years before Chaos Head, and Anonymous Code being in localization limbo. The problem is they pulled a Platinum before Platinum did and they burdened themselves with publishing
how is it possible to not profit off this series? Where did the money go? This obsession with spending literally all of your money is so stupid. How big was the team when they made chaos;child?
>Where did the money go?
they reinvested the money into the company, went into self publishing, bought a bunch of useless IPs and tried to go multimedia. They tried to run before they could learn to walk. Miling SG until people hated it was how they stayed afloat but that well dried up.
Sales have declined for Trails in Japan (because of dumb decisions such as sticking with PS, even when the Japanese market favored Switch more and more). And normally, it'd be mitigated by overseas sales, but now it'll take about three years just for NISA to localize the latest entry of the series, since concurrent translation is more or less impossible with the way in which Falcom works.
are we still getting a steins gate continuation? I'm a little frustrated that the studio spent so many years on flop VNs instead of focusing on the one attempt that worked
So how much is actually missing in the steam release of Chaos Head Noah?
And how important is the Commitee of Zero patch?
Kinda unbeliveable that they still dont provide a patch because of some bullshit bug reasons like flashing that could affect people with seizures etc.
https://twitter.com/CommitteeOf0/status/1608359159661223939 (embed)
Considering to just playing the steam release, I dont mind translation errors and more worried about stuff missing or being cut.
I heard there are entire scenes that are not in it.
And are these translations real?
Especially "manchild" and "numbskull", wtf.
>Literal: >Group diving >Pregnancy man >Punishment of crucifixion >Vampire >Brain death >Delicious hand >DQN Puzzle
wtf, this is worse than I thought.
Makes total sense though looking at their twitter posts.
Do you know how much stuff is missing with the steam release?
Looking at that screenshot I probably play that version regardless.
Why is this always happening..
It's Babby's First Time Travel Story tier. I could barely get through the first act because of all the stale memes as well. On top of that you homosexuals can't even get best girl right.
>actual criticism
you don't have one you mush brain >muh babby's first time travel
is not a fricking jab at the story, you are moronic
1 year ago
Anonymous
The story is derivative as frick, with aadditional anime cliches sprinkled in to make it even worse if that were possible. Christopher is literally only there for neet homosexual wish fulfillment. And its already been proven what homosexual troons the localizers are. And every other data entry is literally a meme, the game is basically co-written by reddit. Kurisu can suck black wieners in IP hell.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Damn we've got time-travelling troons as well now? Kinda fitting tbh
1 year ago
Anonymous
I mean Luca is kind of a time traveling troony. Even though he's actually just a little homosexual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Actually really bothers me when people call him trans (which I know you didn't do) because it just shows that you literally didn't understand his character or arc.
1 year ago
Anonymous
these morons also call Naoto trans, so I wouldn't expect any less
1 year ago
Anonymous
>anime cliches
not an argument >neet homosexual wish fulfillment
Okabe is not a NEET >data entry is a meme
it's 2chan lingo and STEM terminology for people not in the know >co-written by reddit
?? >black wieners
have a nice day troony
Through that entire paragraph you've said absolutely nothing of value or nuance. I wonder what other opinions you parrot
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why is the story steeped in otaku & internet culture full of memes and eccentric weirdos
1 year ago
Anonymous
Otakus are the kind of troony degenerates that don't deserve to have a show about them. Dr. Reddit or Howowin or whatever her name is one internet comment away from transitioning into a women like her friend Luka, and they probably have a Discord channel together where they talk about estrogen and how to ruin the internet, Mayushii is a braindead autist who can't tie her shoes without Dr. Reddit's help, the Daria guy is a fat slob who would never get a gf irl and everyone's favorite waifu is a bawd who hungers for (my) BBC. I wish God would just nuke the anime fandom for good.
>cliche shit characters >shitty ironic humor >annoying mc
What a mystery.
>better time travel stories
Just fricking pick one lmao
This
1 year ago
Anonymous
>samehomosexual Black person having a meltdown
pick one better time travel story.
It's over
https://www.youtube.com/@bye9793/featured
I was subbed to this channel, I do not know who it is, I think they changed their name to this and deleted all their videos.
>In a rather public case of crossed wires, MAGES. president Chiyomaru Shikura announced on Twitter that he filed a copyright strike against HOLOSTARS Virtual YouTuber Minase Rio's Anonymous;Code livestream on Thursday. He complained that the VTuber streamed the game beyond the point that the company allows permission for, and said that he has taken action as the original creator. The video was subsequently removed from YouTube. >Both Chiyomaru and the Science Adventure Twitter had to make hasty apologies soon afterwards, however, because it turned out that the company had already made an agreement with Rio's agency beforehand to permit the stream. The corporate apology was so hasty, in fact, that it spelled Rio's name wrong and had to apologize for that as well in a separate tweet.
>In December 2022, it was reported that Mages would enter insolvency as a result of financial losses of ¥613,000 million (approximately US$4.6 million).
>In January 2023, Chiyomaru Shikura announced via Twitter that he would resign as company Chairman and Executive Director
>gave the vtumor and the company they work for explicit permission to stream the game beforehand
vtumors didnt kill stein gates MAGES being moronic and milking it along with chiyomaru being a schizo killed steins gae
Anoncode was the most ambitious and expensive game they worked on, bringing Uchikoshi back and all. It was going to determine the fate of the company. And then Chiyomaru pulled this shit which resulted in a boycott that torpedoed it.
Like posted before Mages had a chronic problem with copyright strikes for dubious reasons to begin with so people were already out for blood. The vtuber thing was just an excuse to ramp it up.
They also went after streamers who played the Konosuba games with separate copyright strikes at a go resulting in instant channel deletions, got a lot of bad rap for that.
The Konosuba shooting game has literally zero story and is pure action and they struck anyone who uploaded videos without permission even though they didn’t block video recording/streaming on the consoles.
Why do VNs feel like they are made to appeal to younger audiences who don't even like to read even though everyone who got into VNs in their golden age is in their late 20s, 30s and 40s?
they appeal to kissless virgins who arent comfortable talking to women, because all you have to do is push A a bunch of times, and BAM, kurisu loves you back
The company doesn't own the IPs, Chiyomaru personally does. That's how they've always rolled. He also personally owns the Kid IPs like Ever17 and Memories Off. He'll just go find investors and start a new company.
He wasn't even a businessman to begin with, he was the music guy on the Kid era games. He's a composer. Mages did okay because he has a lot of connections from his Kid days and he's famous for being their composer, not because he's particularly good at business. The S;G interviews with Nitroplus mentioned how they worked with him because they knew about him from Memories Off which they're fans of, and Uchikoshi writing for A;C is clearly a connection from the Kid days.
But he's moronic for doing stupid shit that has legit pissed off his fanbase and shit. If I were I would never do any business that would damaged me even further.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, the point I was making is that he's not a businessman and should never have been put in charge of making business decisions because he was always just some music guy who started Mages because he wanted to become an ideas guy.
So who owns the Ips now?
Nitro Plus?
Chiyomaru probably. He still holds on to old Kid licenses after all. He’ll just bring them to another company or start a new one.
I do.
Mages bought a lot of dead IPs from Elf Corporation, which they made horribly bad anime adaptions from instead of respecting the source material and just leaving them alone. Frick Mages.
wait really? do they also own those bizarre cuckold games that killed elf?
wait what did they remake besides yuno
The Saudis
>Kurisu loses her job because women do not belong in the workplace
>Becomes a perfect and submissive housewife
I don't see the issue
I didn't say there was an issue, I'd marry and impregnate her in a heartbeat. Just that that's how Arabs see women.
>I don't see the issue
Kurisu is now of brown color with a unibrow and extremely hairy armpits.
stop, I can only get so erect
~~*Them*~~
shoulda bought chaos;child and famicom detective remakes
>famicom detective remakes
I did buy these
me too, I wish they'd write more. How the frick is a 25 year old mystery VN better than the shit that comes out today?
It came out in the neo-golden age of japanese mystery fiction. There’s a developer called Happymeal that makes games inspired by FDC but they’re all untranslated atm
I'm surprised no one has ever gotten Shimada or one of his crew to write a mystery game. Shin Honkaku's whole deal is that it's a puzzle first and a story second, their style would work really well for a game
A decagon house murders game would be insane. You have to cheat a little bit in the adaptation for it to work in any medium outside of books, but it's doable.
>famicom detective remakes
Did these get an English release?
yep, got a remake and an english release which was unusual since Mage usually doesnt do that. Great games too. Its 100% still the NES game but with modern graphics. Kind of clunky but part of the game
I would've bought if they'd released it on PS5 and uncensored
>I would've bought Famicom Detective Club if they'd released it on PS5 and uncensored
>FAMICOM Detective Club
>On PS5
>famicom detective remakes
Not touching those until someone brings the censored stuff back.
Don’t censor things then maybe your niche audience will help keep you afloat. They will never learn.
>Not releasing a VN on PC at all
No way I'm paying for that shit. I'm just going to pirate the remakes and play them on my deck.
Maybe consider making games instead of bad books
Industry crash is already here
VN industry? Yes.
Ubisoft also collapsed, and blizzard needs to sell, the first sign of a crash is companies selling wich has been going on for a while
The second is new players, like fortnite, genshin impact, nikke and indies , wich also has been going on for a while
dumb frogposting troon
Not surprising.
If a dev has to put 3D characters into a 2D sprite fighting game then you know something is up.
what
I don't understand this headline
the IP is called "Science Adentures", like "The Legend of Zelda", and the company is called Mages, and now they are bankrupt
Video game developer named "Mages inc." is insolvent.
>""""""""""video game"""""""""" developer
Nice, hopefully more VNshit companies will go belly up. They should have stick to making movies instead of shitting up gaming industry.
There was a time when VN developers were more self-aware.
Phantom of inferno for example got released as animeplayDVD (chose your own adventure movie) in the west.
>Science Adventure games developer 'Mages' entered insolvency.
It's incredible how poorly journalists write even when they're just covering news.
Science Adventure's Developer, Mages, Entered Insolvency
Their developer mages (they cast spells that turn into games) entered their game dev atelier that is called 'Insolvency' to work on their new science-themed adventure game.
Wonder how far they are with translating Anonymous;Code?
if such big company became like this what happens to small ones
Just get bought by some huge media giant like Muv-Luv devs did.
WTF I've bought like all their games. I want to breed with that Stephanie chick.
>In December 2022, it was reported that Mages would enter insolvency as a result of financial losses of ¥613,000 million (approximately US$4.6 million).
>In January 2023, Chiyomaru Shikura announced via Twitter that he would resign as company Chairman and Executive Director, but stated that he would still be part of Mages as an Executive Producer.
"In a rather public case of crossed wires, MAGES. president Chiyomaru Shikura announced on Twitter that he filed a copyright strike against HOLOSTARS Virtual YouTuber Minase Rio's Anonymous;Code livestream on Thursday. He complained that the VTuber streamed the game beyond the point that the company allows permission for, and said that he has taken action as the original creator. The video was subsequently removed from YouTube.
Both Chiyomaru and the Science Adventure Twitter had to make hasty apologies soon afterwards, however, because it turned out that the company had already made an agreement with Rio's agency beforehand to permit the stream. The corporate apology was so hasty, in fact, that it spelled Rio's name wrong and had to apologize for that as well in a separate tweet."
It was the vtubers that destroyed the company hahahaha
how the frick did they lose that much money in one year as glorified porn game merchants?
MAGES did a copyright strike on a vtuber. The fans retaliated by refusing to consume their shit
you didn't answer my question, they LOST 4.6 million dollars in one year.
people not buying your shit doesn't actively take money away from your bank account.
It does if you spend money manufacturing and creating product that you expect to sell but it doesn't due to a boycott. Americans literally do not know how to boycott like the superior Japanese.
Wasn't he sued back? He literally sued a someone who had the permissions to stream already and those agencies are powerful.
you don't need to be powerful when the person suing you makes such a huge blunder that you'd have lawyers lining up at your door to take your case for a guaranteed payday
MAGES. is also a record label, this is the main reason why they went bankrupt.
Jesus, why are vtubers so powerful?
I hate /vt/rannies so much
So they made an agreement to permit the stream but still copyright striked it in the end? No wonder they went bankrupt lol
Vtubers lesbians strike again.
How can he be such an idiot? Shouldn't he know about any deals made? If he didn't know then he was in no position to say anything about it. How did he even find out about her stream in the first place? This looks like an intern mistake.
I don't get your point. How was it the vtuber called Rio is at fault if he has permit to stream the game? am I missing something here?
Tourist pig go home
Ganker is an anime website, you're the tourist. Leave.
Are you illiterate?
Seethe.
Good should've been eroge.
well maybe if they branched out instead of sticking in VN for the last 12 years they would have some fricking money
They could have also made a good VN. Everything after Steins;Gate has been complete shit.
S;G is trash and so are it's fans, good riddance. S
subhuman
>meanwhile Key is still going strong
Yep, this is the good timeline. Planetarian alone mogs anything Mages has ever shit out.
kek, cope and seethe
How the frick is key still going, what was even their last good VN? rewrite was such a shitshow.
little busters was meh.
clannad,key,kanon was their last good vns.
They don't even get anime anymore.
I only liked a few of their games and the rest are middling or just plain bad. I imagine they've lasted so long from milking Clannad and Planetarian for years. Or they're just more popular in nipland in general and we all know they're the ones more likely to pay for VNs anyway. That aside Tsui no Stella is kamige, look forward to it.
I wouldn't say kamige, this isn't even the best Romeo's, but it was a comfy read https://youtu.be/w5ts4EM0Oro
>How the frick is key still going, what was even their last good VN? rewrite was such a shitshow.
>little busters was meh.
>clannad,key,kanon was their last good vns.
>They don't even get anime anymore.
That mobile game Heaven Burns Red definitely brought them back though time will tell Maeda will get out his funk again.
Can't survive by relying purely on VNs these days unless you make hit after hit. Big mistake.
A shame Occultic;Nine will forever be buried tho.
Key should branch out to other things. HBR was a start I guess.
>Key should branch out to other things. HBR was a start I guess.
Branching out to gachashit was a mistake.
That shit capitalize the lack of yuri in the mobile market besides its really quality you can explore the city like if were an rpg and meet up with the different girls hanging around at specific times. Feels a litte Persona.
Key is trash now and Maeda is a bigger hack than ever before, he went off the deep end after his heart surgery
Wrote an autobiography novel about himself, but in it he's actually a middle aged depressed lesbian instead, who preys on younger girls. The guys is embracing his inner troony and HBR is the product of his sick mind, utter yurislop garbage to fill a niche in the mobage market.
He told all fans of his previous works that they should frick off if they don't like his troony novel, and he won't write a VN ever again, as mobage is the future.
Look at the garbage original anime Natta hi anime he did 3 years ago, another rushed nonsensical flop like Charlotte, not to mention Prima Doll was shit as well despite them shilling it heavily with A-list VAs. They also won't ever finish the AB VN because of his deplorable attitude towards VNs and heterosexual nip otaku.
Key has lot all its soul and Maeda is a troony sellout, same with R07. He will end up rebooting Clannad soon and change the characters to dykes or gays who adopted a kid instead, or use key magic to have gay babies.
anon they make the anime first now
Angel Beats just got its vn and charlotte/ that show that managed to be even worse are getting vns next
if the e-girl dies again I'm not touching it. One Planetarian destroying my soul was enough.
>microwave door still on
moron
i chuckled a bit
one of the few times these shitty memejaks made me laugh
pretty much this
Ever 17 was the last good sci-fi VN, Danganronpa last mystery vn
Ever 17 is absolute dog shit.
frick off and have a nice day newhomosexual tourist
Gemerald.
Never breath again, stinky brown subhuman.
Sci adv is overrated trash, die seething.
At the end of the day S;G is still the highest rated VN of all time and you're still some random Ganker loser with a worthless opinion nobody gives a shit about.
>At the end of the day S;G is still the highest rated VN of all time
Die mad along with your dead franchise lmao
Huh let me see if I can give a frick about anything you say ....no. I can't do it!
Oh and S;G is still #1, how bout that.
>Huh let me see if I can give a frick about anything you say ....no. I can't do it!
And yet you keep replying. Curious.
>At the end of the day S;G is still the highest rated VN
I thought that was Muv Luv
I didn't know Steins;Gate worshippers still existed after 2018. And SciADV fans in general. They're literally going backrupt after pushing stinker after stinker and this is a thread to make fun of them and you're still placing hope in them.
>Ganker
Go back
A company going bankrupt doesn't make a masterpiece retroactively bad, shitter
It's not like it stopped being a masterpiece
Kurisu never stopped being a miracle
That's very true as well.
The Platinum Era of VN market is long gone. Mages. going bank;rupt is just another member of the old era dying off.
VN writers continues to exist, of course, but they've moved in to the Gacha market where adding a predatory gambling aspect is way more profitable than being a simple and honest one-and-done box purchase. It's far less in-depth, sadly, you're paying out the nose for basically brief scenes with a character instead of getting fully-realized stories.
So we won't be getting that new VN?
didnt Chaos Child localization just come out? did that flop that bad?
nah, I thought the Campos Santos troony at Valve blocked it. Unless Gabe personally told the moron off and greenlit it through.
but it's not like a single old game localized to EN was gonna save them in any case.
Got fricked over by steam
Not enough marketing and steam controversy
but didnt it eventually get allowed on Steam?
Yeah, but that didn't mean it led to high sales.
Just proves that 90% of Science Adventure fans only ever watched Steins;Gate (they pirated it)
its true, I even pirated robotics notes
I got OG VN Steins;Gate on steam from a sale
Also own pic related
No I bought a few of their games but at the end of the day VNs are ultra niche. We're talking about 200k sales.
I bought everything except C;H
I can't get through R;N for the life of me. Chiyomaru can't write for shit
the original and 0 have such kino cover arts, Huke-sama is a genius
It’s a shame that useless b***h Kagari has to be there
Maho looks far hotter in that artwork than she does in the actual VN.
Maybe I would have liked her a bit more if she actually looked like that.
Okabe looks different too. Better as well. He still looks like a psychologically fractured person here, but he looks like a psychologically fractured person that was better designed than picrel.
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To be fair, Okabe in the cover looks like he's in his late 20s or 30s. You wouldn't expect him to be a 19 year old uni student if you didn't know anything about the story.
Maho also looks like a Kurisu clone there, while she has a unique silhouette in the game
Huke obviously puts more effort into the cover arts though, for some reason. I still love how ethereal the original looks
>You wouldn't expect him to be a 19 year old uni student
You would'nt know he was a student if you read the story either tbf. Nothing other than a coupel offhand remarks by braun make it seem like he's enrolled and he never goes to class or does schoolwork. IDK why they didn't just make him a neet
He meets Kurisu in a lecture hall, and she obviously wouldn't have chemistry with him if he was an uneducated bumfrick NEET
It's summer so he doesn't have classes, he just goes to seminars for networking I think,
He goes to classes in 0 (which is in winter) and joins shit like the tennis club
He also needs to be a student for him to be involved with Leskinen/Amadeus in the first place
My first 2 times I watched the original I thought he just showed up to a random lecture cause it's the only time he does. Wasn't until 0 that him being a student really came up
Not a huge deal though I probably would like the original more if 0 didn't frick with the canon so hard
It didn't frick with it at all. It just removed the asspull aspect of the true ending of the original
>You would'nt know he was a student if you read the story either tbf.
Anon? You're told in the very first 15 mins of VN that he attended to school.
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>steam
You didn't buy the game.
Show your physical editions anons. S;G came out on literally everything, you've got to have at least one copy.
Where do I buy a physical copy of S;G in [curren year] that isn't overpriced?
suruga-ya should have it dirt cheap
anywhere else?
I have the PS3 and PC physicals
does the Amazon version come with the "best edition" printed on top?
I'm quite autistic about cover arts
the non-steam PC version is a gimped bad port with graphics downscaled to 1024x576. if you want a physical copy consider any other version.
unfortunately the best versions of the game, the revised PC port and the PS4 port, are digital only, and the latter is now also permanently unobtainable as it was only available as a code with an expiration date that passed.
How about the one on surugaya?
I don't mind it not being translated. I just want a physical version, preferably not gimped.
the non-gimped PC port is steam only. if you buy a japanese boxed copy, it will still be the old 1024x576 version.
if you can settle for that, you may as well get the english boxed version.
i'll just give a qrd on each version:
360 version is 1280x720. it got patched later on to censor the game by raising character ages. the platinum hits version has the patch that censors it integrated.
first PC version is lower res at 1024x576. this was the first version that got localized. this had the negative effect that in all future localized versions, the translated CGs had to be upscaled from 1024x576.
PSP, iOS and android versions are ported to a different engine that can't animate graphics as well, so they look a bit noticeably worse.
PS3 version is 1280x720, it supports 1080p output but it's just upscaled.
vita version has no technical issues but IIRC is cropped slightly horizontally to fit the odd aspect ratio screen (30:17 instead of 16:9)
PS4 version was remastered at 1920x1080, but only released in japan, via a code given with physical copies of steins;gate 0
steam version is based on the PS4 version, but switched to a different video codec and all in-game videos have very bad audio quality due to it, you need a mod to fix this
>you need a mod to fix this
wtf I didn't know this
All this physical talk just makes me regret the fact that I gave away my PS3 a few years ago.
Just pirate it it's like 200mb of images and text
but I want something physical
>it's like 200mb of images and text
lolno. It's like 7 or 8 GB, around 13 after install.
Eh? There weren't really that many physical releases of it that are localized that weren't released on snoystation, though from this comment chain I did learn that there is apparently a physical PC version which I had no idea about. I have a 360 JP copy myself.
>Chiyomaru can't write for shit
good thing that he's not a writer then, you moron
He's the writer for the SciADV games you moron.
Look it up.
He's not the writer, he's the "ideas guy". Hayashi Naotaka was the writer for the first 3 SciADV VNs.
then his ideas are shit
he was the one most likely behind the simulation homosexualry in A;C
Secondaries like you should leave the thread.
Says the tertiary who has never played Chiyomaru’s original games like Memories Off
>english
you didn’t play the games
baaaased
Steam editions of these games are all dual language, both text and audio.
>complaining about secondaries
>filing MAGES. games as spike chunsoft games just because they localized them
S;G makes them money. But everything after it was sub-par and also Chiyomaru got too ambitious and invest on stupid shit.
If they're still owned by kadokawa, none of this would happen
Steins Gate Zero was so poor that I am not surprised. They literally only wrote one good game
they deserved it for making Steins Gate Elite
Serves them well for not ending Stein Gate with Mayuri true route ending. Fans simply lost interest and stopped supporting them. Kurisu was always shit
Seethe harder
>Mayuri
is shit, I dropped S;G because I couldn't stand Okabe whining because of that girl all the time.
happens when you need 7 years and 6 rewrites to make a vn
No more Famicom Detective Club games. RIP Ayumi.
Im pretty surprised how apparently popular Ayumi was in Japan despite only being an npc in 2 games nobody played. Sakurai wanted her in Melee
Why did they make so many Xbox 360 exclusives back in the day?
untapped market, Japanese businessmen are not smart
It wouldn't surprise me if the reason it's something related to Sony's rules. Like how they banned shmups.
Chiyomaru talked about it interviews. Microsoft literally just paid for it. And exclusivity was time-locked only.
Microsoft was in that phase where they were paying out the ass for Japanese exclusives since XBox had a reputation as a western-only console. Coincidentally we got a lot of forgotten kino like resonance of fate and last remnant.
Better to die than get ruined by woke shit pigs like everything the west produces.
This. Key (Maeda), Uchikoshi and R07's brand has been ruined by the woke west.
Sca-ji is next.
What people don't realize is that hardcore nip otaku and the writers who make stuff for them and also identify as such, were always societies outcasts in Japan. Falling into degenerate hobbies like eroge and porn, and late night otaku anime/manga in general is the opposite of conservative nips mindsets and thought of as pathetic.
It's literally part of the path for any otaku/anime making company to eventually go woke, because they were always on the road leading there to begin with.
>tfw they didn’t have enough magic
The bad press they got when Chiyomaru jumped the gun and DMCAd a vtuber who HAD PERMISSION to stream really did a number huh
He said himself the latest game would determine their fate, then he went and torpedoed it by doing this and causing a boycott
They also went after streamers who played the Konosuba games with separate copyright strikes at a go resulting in instant channel deletions, got a lot of bad rap for that.
when? what game? huh?
A;C, there’s loads of news articles on it and he had to apologize in a press release.
https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1433/303/amp.index.html
But peopl remembered them striking streamers for Konosuba and such before all the goodwill was spent.
Why the frick would they strike people literally advertising their games for free?
Because we're in a generation where kids don't play video games anymore (aside from the big live service stuff like Fortnite and CoD). They all watch their favourite streamers play the game and that's it. Smart companies salvage this situation by encouraging streamers to shill their game so their zoomie fanbases buy anyways. Dumb boomers like the guy mentioned just DMCA everything hoping that people curious about the game will buy it if they have nowhere to watch it. This usually backfires because streamers have a lot of clout these days and can tank your game from bad word of mouth alone (if someone like Gura says not to buy your game because the company is getting into a legal batter with her you're going to see A LOT of angry simps online).
With science adventure you could argue about VNs, but they did it to the fricking Konosuba shooting game too so I don’t know. They were just moronic, and this is where it put them.
The Konosuba shooting game has literally zero story and is pure action and they struck anyone who uploaded videos without permission even though they didn’t block video recording/streaming on the consoles.
it's a VN, there isn't any gameplay other than the story. Streaming it would be giving away what the game has to offer on a plate for free.
Would people really just watch a whole game with somebody else talking over it instead of playing it themselves? It's like movie camrips, how many people actually watch those instead of just buying a ticket?
Then you just need to have some good official merch to capitalize on the secondaries
Their goodwill was already spent from when they issued strikes on a pure action game
that the consoles didn’t block streaming/recording on
I want to emphasize that that was an old timey arcadey “get a high score” game and that the consoles didn’t block videos
>record a stage where you get a high score
>share the video using the console’s built-in share functions
>youtube account banned
And Chiyomaru just acted smug about it and tweeted “if you want to upload videos get permission first”
> And Chiyomaru just acted smug about it and tweeted “if you want to upload videos get permission first”
The vtuber thing exploded because he tweeted that again when doing it but the vtuber (who, again, DID get permission from Mages)
It was a real schadenfreude moment
Because contrary to popular belief zoomers don't buy games just because their favorite twitch shills play it. They just watch them being played.
It's a complicated situation. Arguably fortnite benefits from streaming as it doesn't require large numbers of players (ironically) what it needs is whales, and children trying to emulate their e-celebs combined with absentee parents will run up large bills buying cosmetics.
But other games where it's primarily a simple one-time cash purchase are harmed massively by streaming. Zoomers overwhelmingly would rather just watch a game be played on stream than buy it themselves. But not even Nintendo could weather the massive negative press caused by preventing streaming and so only the bravest try and quite frankly die on the sacrificial alter to the old world.
Sometimes you get a flappy bird where a totally irrelevant unknown rockets into stardom thanks to a streamer, but mostly you get the opposite, where you gain millions of new Persona "fans" but mostly the kind of "fan" who has never bought any of your games.
>Overall, Persona 5 has sold 8.3 million units globally
Talking out your ass to shit on a strawman, classic
You picked the worst example. P5 was launched during old Atlus: no streaming, massive takedowns. Sold by the truckload.
P5 PC launched with new Atlus: streaming okay... meh sales.
Obviously it's hard to say if the meh was because of streaming or not because, let's face it, PC ain't all that and the game had already had its day in the sun.
Market research has established that while it’s true that a lot of viewers won’t buy the games, they never would have to begin with. But there IS a fraction of viewers who do go out and buy the games, and streaming does have a positive effect on sales barring cases like Balan Wonderworld or Left Alive where the game is shit.
>But other games where it's primarily a simple one-time cash purchase are harmed massively by streaming.
Do you have a single piece of evidence to back this up?
>where you gain millions of new Persona "fans" but mostly the kind of "fan" who has never bought any of your games.
Such a tragedy that the only way to make money from video games is by selling them
Based
He had to resign over it too
https://gamebiz.jp/news/362334
Too little, too late.
You don’t frick with vtubers, especially the ones backed by big agencies.
Which vtuber did he takedown and laugh at lmao
Minase Rio of Holostars
>getting destroyed by Holostars out of all the companies
Kek. Poor guy.
In a rather public case of crossed wires, MAGES. president Chiyomaru Shikura announced on Twitter that he filed a copyright strike against HOLOSTARS Virtual YouTuber Minase Rio's Anonymous;Code livestream on Thursday. He complained that the VTuber streamed the game beyond the point that the company allows permission for, and said that he has taken action as the original creator. The video was subsequently removed from YouTube.
Both Chiyomaru and the Science Adventure Twitter had to make hasty apologies soon afterwards, however, because it turned out that the company had already made an agreement with Rio's agency beforehand to permit the stream. The corporate apology was so hasty, in fact, that it spelled Rio's name wrong and had to apologize for that as well in a separate tweet.
>Vtuber streaming and advertising that garbage A;C
>copyright strike the guy and brag on twitter
I don't know which is more stupider; Making Chaos;Child Xbox One exclusive and killing it or that.
Both MAGES. and Colopl said that Anonymous;Code sold well, it's not the reason why they went bankrupt.
>make 1 (one) decent game in your entire 15 years of operation
>go broke
damn who could have imagined
S;G was their only decent game so this is fitting.
feel like i had a stroke reading that title.
VNs are gay all i know from them is steins;gate and only because i watched the anime
Any other sane company would've milked STEINS;GATE for profit, but they insist on pulling this marvelshit with their schizophrenic adventure universe.
Where the frick is STEINS;??? you morons?
>Any other sane company would've milked STEINS;GATE for profit
Why would you want this aside from cute Steins Gate worldline Okabe/Kurisu fluff with them becoming an official couple, which they wouldn't even fricking do
worked out for typemoon
I still don't understand how FSN exists.
"What if King Arthur was a cute girl and also my housemate while we fight duels against evil magicians?!"
If you told anyone walking down the street that this was a major media franchise they'd burst out laughing
On the contrary, I think it works pretty well how Nasu built that world, setting classes, an RPG system, the multiple 3 routes that differ each other greatly. It's not just Saber, all the 7 servants literally made fans wet into imagining their local heroes as one.
What if x was a cute girl has been the majority of Japan's cultural export for the last 2-3 decades, at some point you stop questioning why Hephaestus is a happy-go-lucky redhead with big breasts rather than a deformed cripple and accept that at least it's not America's what if x was a Black person
With type moon works because they introduced fricking tons of character and a lore that can be developed in multiple storylines. Also for Fate, the idea you can summon heroes of the past work like charm for any other writer to replicate Shirou and create its own waifu/husbando
They milked the frick out of S;G what are you going on about?
It's the Persona 4 of VNs. Milked to the point people hate it
Milking Steins;Gate is one of the reasons why they've died, moron.
Obviously referring to VNs and not fanservice garbage
Who fricking cares about R;N and A;C. Just make a soft reboot of the cast like C;C
>Who fricking cares about R;N and A;C
Just because you have shit taste doesn't mean everyone also has shit taste, moron.
I don't know shit about the original R;N release, but Elite was actually way fricking better than I anticipated. It's slow as frick, but it was interesting in most aspects. Too bad DaSH is some of the worst trash I have read.
They should've made a SciADV JRPG (a la Persona 5) at least 4 years ago, no wonder the studio is forced to close its doors now, visual novels (esp SFW ones) are an incredibly small market. Don't even need amazing graphics, something like AI Somnium but a JRPG would've sold buckets.
>is about science adventure
>calls itself Mages
?????
>He doesn't know
Japanese otakus failed us. Frick gacha.
Serves them right for not releasing A Steins:Gate ost vinyl. Anyone more business savvy know what this means for their current projects and future? Could some angel investor save them?
why do Gankerincel chuds not worship science??? this is extremely problematic.
>implying
>not making the ugly fat guy in the middle actually a chad in reality
they had one job
are we still getting Anonymous Code?
They should realize by now that VNs simply do not sell anymore.
You need some basic gameplay like Danganronpa or Ace Attorney.
what made DDLC so massively succesful?
It was a free meme game with shock twist.
They went creatively bankrupt when they launched that garbage sequel anyway so good riddance. Hopefully no new steins;gate content ever gets made and we can just pretend the first vn/season is all that existed.
The next one was supposed to be S;G 0 Elite, wonder if it's still coming out.
>Steins Gate Elite
I wonder if anyone is even going to buy it considering Elite was literally a downgrade
if they bundle it up with an exclusive like Linear Bounded Phenogram, it would get sales
I bought it for that reason anyway.
Too bad Phrenogram sucked, at least Darling had some coomershit to make up for its nothing burger story.
I liked Phenogram. Meanwhile I couldn't get through Darling after playing through Kurisu's route
>if they bundle it up with an exclusive like Linear Bounded Phenogram, it would get sales
There's no more exclusives to bundle it up with.
Man, it could be nice if they made a collection of the Drama CDs turned into VNs and bundled that as an exclusive bonus game with the purchase of 0 Elite.
>Drama CDs turned into VNs
I meant "a VN". As in LBP which is a collection of original stories in separate worldlines that never came to be and stay as What Ifs in the canon.
Grouping a number of Drama CDs as a LBP2 or whatever other name could be nice.
Could take the chance and take in that one light novel about the outcome of the Alpha worldline and all. Lost Valhalla or something.
while it would be moronic as there's no direct relation, they could do C;H LCC, it has no modern console release nor localization so they could use it as a bonus worldwide and on every platform
more relevant they could perhaps do hen'i kuukan no octet, as it only got an old non-steam PC release and fan translation
That's what you for not dubbing your shit.
Are all Japanese VN companies just a few problems away from bankruptcy?
pretty much, the VN market is incredibly niche and for the most part PC only. Most famous VN you might have heard about have actually had their studios go bankrupt, or bought out, or they just make eroge/gacha. Or ironically they tried to make gacha and went bankrupt from doing that, dont ask how.
Muv-Luv for example which is regarded as the #1 VN in the world went bankrupt ages ago.
How many VNs even get made anymore?
All the big ones got released ages ago.
Why do VNs end but real novels dont? Why do humans still read paper with writing on it?
90% of VN's are moege and look like pic related. There are thousands of them coming out each year.
good
idols are the only thing worth living for anyway
kamige don't come out anymore
it's all eroge and moege
>ryukishi gay doesn't play games
Imagine my shock.
Games aren't relaxing. Games are too stressful, that is why he makes VNs, for people who are already stressed and just want to read
Yes. Good thing I discovered Falcom. It kinda filled the hole that VNs dying left.
Just don't play Kuro 2 because you would want that shit to bomb.
Upon reelase, Kuro 2 sold around the same numbers as Kuro 1, and Kondo confirmed that Kuro 1 had flopped, so...
I played both. Kuro 1 was fine really but the shit they did at Kuro 2 besides the plot literally didn't move at all it barely gave answer to anything in the first game and just focused a lot in Nadia/Swin
Falcom is fricking dogshit. If you somehow made it through Haha-man's series without wanting to blow your brains out, you are an actual shit-eater.
Is magic real?
kamige is back on the menu when he finishes this and releases Ciconia episode 2
>get bought out by investment group
>investment group is putting the cost of that transaction on your account
>you are now millions in the red
>if only one of your titles under performs its pretty much over for you as you can't pay your bills anymore
Imagine ever agreeing to that kind of bullshit
Well Chiyomaru didn’t have to cause a boycott and torpedo sales for the biggest title they ever made just because he wanted to power trip and act smug on twitter.
>VN
>game
Their IPs should get bought out my someone willing to make proper R18 VNs inshallah
So what's going to happen to Steins;Goop?
Steins;QR Code
Quickly fellow nerds, Einstein left behind a QR code at a Japanese merch store and WE need to transcribe and decode its meaning to SAVE tHE WORLD from the evil organization -Nasa- which wants to go back in time and eliminate the speed of light so they can reach other Galaxies faster!
Wait, doesn't Chunsoft own SG? Why does this matter?
No
Chunsoft publishes SG, they dont own it
WTF?!
Hey, don't blame us /misc/chads. The people who call anime "tranime" are just as hated there as they are here, possible more so.
Its almost...ALMOST as if that company was always mediocre and Stein Gate was always overrated. People should replay that game. There's so much fricking anime tropes and dumb plotlines full of plotholes it's amazing how it got popular in mainstream while Ever17 is still unknown to normies. Its the same with western games where crap like Fallout 4 is more known than Planescape Torment.
>hur ever17
You do know that Mages is what became of Kid, right? Chiyomaru worked on all of their games and even voice acted for MO3.
>anime tropes
it's meant to be reminiscent of late 2000's otaku culture
>plot holes
name one, you are moronic.
I've reread it 5 times, you just have a chronic case of shit taste
>name one, you are moronic
NTA, but compressing all of a human's memories and experiences into only 36 bytes is just unfeasible no matter how you slice it, blackhole technology or not it's literally just 36 ASCII symbols, this is dumb as frick
>plot holes
>names sci-fi mechanics
Holy frick you're right, they should've published an actual paper to figure out how to upload and compress human memories into data. Fricking hacks
I can condense all of that shit into 6 bits niggy
That's not a plot hole you fricking idiot. Sci-fi not mapping 1:1 to reality is not an intrinsic flaw.
trans btw
>love Fallout 4 and replay it every year
>tried Planescape Torment once, got stuck in a cave, literally could not escape because every attack is a dice roll because LOL thac0 combat system!
And hmm, would you look at that, Black Isle went bankrupt ages ago and Bethesda has a new came launching in a few weeks.
This is the most contrarian post I've seen all day.
Ever17 reached way higher highs but S;G is overall more consistent
Someone else said Ever 17 is bretty gud in a thread like a week or so ago
Is it dating and eroge centric garbage or does it blend that stuff like S;G did tastefully?
Or is it just a good story?
It is mediocre with only one good twist which is a giant red-herring
everything after SG is a flop, they just can`t catch that lightning in the bottle again
SG was good then 0 was shit. Everything else they made was shit. Makes sense they went udner
But I liked 0...
It was a cash grab trying to bank on their one good story but they just made the original worse but putting in a ton of new canon and timelines and shit.
Also going back to the heat death of the universe just to frick a moronic girl is hilarious
>Also going back to the heat death of the universe just to frick a moronic girl is hilarious
You didn't understand the story
Yeah I don't know Japanese constellation lore so I don't understand a shitty time travel story.
SG anime is the only shit worth watching out of Science Adventure and that's just cause White Fox cut out all the awful writing
Did you even read the original?
The anime cuts out most of the explanations for the shit that's happening
As near as I can tell Stein's Gate had a gimmick, that Toodaloo character which created an emotional impact in the cold hearts of hikkikomoris and that is why it succeeded.
No, it's the groundhog day romance that won them over
You're telling me it was Chris that made it popular and not the cute creature's plot twist death
Shocking
>Science Adventure Games
Oh my Science
How many employees does it take to make a VN, like seriously? Am I supposed to care that four Black folk are out of work?
about this much
>four women sitting around
>one man actually working
The absolute state of this industry.
the women are there for sucking his wiener and looking good.
That's still two women too many.
The guy is only the script writer though. The other girls are music design, artist, model etc.
Nah in the show they actually contribute.
The problem might be the voice actors, the music, the publisher. Those might be really expensive for small teams, reminder that if you want to sell at least you need to use a popular VA or singer most of the time in japan.
Just hire hentai voice actors, they're dirt cheap
If they are eroge you do that but when its all ages, for consoles, you really need those because otherwise the games go under but those VA agency can literally give them exposure.
A lot of novels has this problem. They are harem with many but either one or two the only good routes, or sometimes true ending literally has (you) dying or not going with anyone. Single heroine can be really dull or maybe secondary characters are better than the whole cast with writers acting surprised they win fan poll over their "beloved" heroines.
thank god, i played chaos head like ten years ago and i have no idea how these clowns stayed in business for this long peddling this trash.
Chaos;Head is schizophrenic nonsense, play Steins;Gate for more contained schizophrenia
i get more than my daily intake of schizophrenic writings from reading Ganker, no thanks.
what if 90% of the schizophrenic babble was actually true then?
it isn't, Cern are just a bunch of nerds, not time traveling assassins
ok cern, we totally believe you 😀
Sure thing CERN.
I don't play shitty VNs but I did watch robotics:notes and based on whatever the frick that was they deserve to go out of business.
I also don't really understand how a VN developer goes out of business when you need like 2 people to make one.
I don't get it.
Reminder that Higurashi and Umineko didn't have any voice acting at all in the beginning. You just need sovl to be the best.
they should have given phantom breaker omnia rollback
It should be fine. Chiyomaru's company is separate as far as I'm aware. This would be like if Nintendo went bankrupt and Sakurai had to go somewhere else for his Kirby shit
I mean they have only made a single good game, honestly they deserve it.
>have only made a single good game
You're talking about Chaos;Child, right?
I love Chrisu
>another steins gate sequel has been cancelled
Good hope they never touch the series again and I can pretend 0 and the movie didn't happen
>the movie
The what now?
Lord Region of Deja Vu
Oh yeah that. Completely forgot it existed.
The sequel to the anime where Okabe disappears and Kurisu has to physically go back in time to kiss 9 year old Okabe which brings him back
Makes the whole show extra deterministic and the pedo kiss is awkward. Just a cash grab asspull like 0 thoguh
Oh also it turns out his whole Chunni personality stemmed from this meeting with future Makise
The Science Adventure writers managing to write a good story once was a miracle
The movie isn't canon, no point in harping about it
The movie is a good companion piece to 0 because they both show why making alternate universe spin offs of a popular show just waters dwon the original
You have literally zero arguments as to how 0 breaks the canon
Reminder that the movie is literally non-canon, unlike 0.
It literally contradicts how the time travel mechanics work in-universe.
>It literally contradicts how the time travel mechanics work in-universe.
They make the shit up as they go along who cares
>who cares
it obviously matters as one of the key qualities of the original is that it's one of the few stories with consistent time travel mechanics
>Shovelware company goes insolvent
Nothing of value was lost.
>science
That's insulting to anyone with at least 1/4 of a brain
Why are they even called MAGES, when they are more like spaghetti cookers
Let's be honest, except for steins gate the rest are shovelware. Tried to get into chaos head but it's simply not an interesting vn.
Try C;C, it's better
gonna read Chaos Child/Head Switch version. Is there anything I need to know? I heard the translation wasnt the best? Did that re-translation patch ever come through? I could use my Steam Deck I guess.
>gonna read Chaos Child/Head Switch version
Skip Head. It's unironic garbage.
Child is pretty good though but still kinda moronic.
the duality of Ganker...
Don't skip Chaos;Head, the only people that hate it are normalgays who got filtered by the based protagonist.
>based protagonist
Takumi is literally proto-Okabe that isn't pretending
what the frick are you talking about, Okabe and Takumi are barely similar
One is schizophrenic, the other pretends to be schizophrenic
That's enough for me
The issue with Head is that it actually tries too hard. Child's edginess was more subdued so it worked better
Don't listen to this guy, C;C is trash and the MC is a cuckold, the ending is pure garbage
I liked the murder mystery aspect of C;C and it has some really strong moments, but dear fricking god that ending was disgustingly bad. They also retread the peak of the story that it starts to fizzle a little and then to top it all off they dropped massive sequel bait that we know will never be fulfilled.
Dunno, i'd say psychopass mandatory happiness was good (carried by urobuchi) and i actually liked chaos head/child.
But ye, its a garbage shovelware company that cant even get corpse party blooddrive on the vita to run properly.
Literally to unskilled to make a rpg maker game
BASED. It's their own fault for releasing all this shitty chuunishit. Stein's Gate was a fluke that they had no idea how to replicate.
this is what you get for making one of the best time travel VN's, one of the best vn's pretty much of all time, and not giving us more alternate time lines to read about
They did
yeah, so keep making more. there should've been more than just the 2 main ones and some gay waifu dating sim shit.
They did
prove it
https://vndb.org/v11660
No, this is what happens when you capture lightning in a bottle once and you have no idea what to do with it
>I share a board with S;G-onlies
Sad!
Not going to read your nasuslop
Cope!
Nasu is laughing his way to the bank while the rest of these frauds are steadily going out of business.
Ryutroony07 is next on the chopping block.
Ryu07 isn't in any danger of going broke. He's writing Silent Hill right now and laughing his ass off knowing full well we're gonna go and check every toilet in town looking for drowned Rikas.
Nothing of value. If you think money is required to make a VN then you got scammed. Serves them right for remastering their old releases every year.
Shouldn't this read 'has entered insolvency' or 'enters insolvency'? Am I insane or are journos really this much of a meme?
This thread is probably awful. They milked S;G to bones so it's karma
Seems like they were very lazy. Steins Gate is not even translated in that many languages on steam. Only english, japanese and chinese. They missed out on a lot of weeb sales.
They deserve it for making 0
The same smug /jp/ homosexuals that said 0 was good and better than the original said the rest of the franchise is good. I'm not falling for that shit ever again.
People actually said 0 was good?
It was literally filler.
Before it was translated yes. They kept saying it was better than the original best SciADV ever. Same reason the muh EOP doesn't work on me. The homosexuals shilling untranslated porn games and visual novels apparently can't read it either.
the only one who said this is that homosexual Steiner
he's the one translating everything though
Not really, he only translated Steins;Gate (and even that was mostly translated by BlickWinkel, AFAIK). He's also currently translating Anonymous;Code. He did want to translate the other SciADV VNs, but he got cucked by MAGES.
Him and back then everyone took his word as gospel truth and worshipped him. Before it came out in English no one said wow this is dogshit. Anyone that said they played it in Japanese hyped it up. Even after all the plastic surgery and how disjointed and abrupt the "true ending" was. Anonymous;Code and Robotic;Notes DASH barely anyone played and I don't even know have English releases or not and people said yeah they're trash.
>Anonymous;Code and Robotic;Notes DASH barely anyone played and I don't even know have English releases or not and people said yeah they're trash.
I thought Anonymous;Code was a kamige?
So this guy is just as much of a hack as all the writers right? That or he's a groveling brown nosing shill begging for work. He only moved 0 down after it became consensus that 0 fricking sucks. I've only heard from Ganker that the new one ranges from mediocre to shit.
He also used to say that R,N DaSH was in the top 3 best SciADV VNs and that it was a huge improvement over R;N
>and that it was a huge improvement over R;N
It is.
"lol", "lmao"
Yes DaSH is improvement over R;N. I mean did you even play original R;N?
Are you confusing R;N DaSH with R;N Elite, or do you just have really shit taste?
>Are you confusing R;N DaSH with R;N Elite
Yes.
>LOL GUYS REMEMBER DARU
>HE'S 30 YEARS OLD, MARRIED, BUYS EROGE AND JERKS OFF TO e-girl PORN
>HE'S SUCH A CARICATURE ISN'T HE LOLOLOLOL
They removed any depth and development Daru had in S;G and 0. It's abhorrent
>Before it came out in English no one said wow this is dogshit. Anyone that said they played it in Japanese hyped it up
This is just a lie. Ganker archives exist and can prove you wrong. I have no idea why are you trying to push this shit when 0 wasn't even beloved by japs like original.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/322489337/#q322496901
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/137631667/#137641433
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/135382399/#135388160
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/338859319/#338861045
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320469364/#320474621
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/320879847/#q320879847
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/344390463/#q344444249
There. I'm not going to dig through thousands of Steins;Gate threads and Kurisu waifu threads but this is just some of it. Sure there were a very few people that said it was mediocre or worse than the original but for every one of those there were 100 homosexuals repeating hearsay from Steiner hyping it up or other Anons repeating hearsay from an Anon that said he read it in Japanese and it was better than the original. So yes a lot of it was excited rose tinted Anons echoing what they wanted to believe about the game but it did exist. And a lot of it was because that flip floppy homosexual e-celeb that translated the games. Frick yourself.
e-celeb is renting free in your head
No. The schizo shitposter is sperging against windmills.
0 was good, you morons are just too low IQ
0 is a game with actual plot holes that stop the plot from working when considered. And also Kagari.
can you explain to me the whole "she got a facelift and pretended to be daru's wife" arc thing?
Who are you talking about?
It's always about exclusivity with /jp/sies, not actual quality. If they can circlejerk away from the rest of the anglophones it's good, if they can't it's bad.
I remember many a S;G thread where people would claim it was flawless and brilliant too. Some of it was just because Steiner was trusted but it was also what I described above.
Yeah I don't know what this revisionist history that people always hated 0 is about. People only shit on 0 now after knowing Steins;Gate isn't infallible. Back then people would never have even considered it. This series was a sacred cow worshipped at the altar you couldn't dare say anything bad about. The anime of 0 came out and was even worse than the VN and people just said yeah it's bad from then on. The thing is the movie came out before 0 and it was a complete pile of shit too and people were able to overlook it because it "wasn't canon" and it had a ton of Kurisu fanservice. If a new Steins;Gate sequel came out now no one would expect it to top the original let alone be any good.
You’re a schizo. And the anime, while still shit, wasn’t worse than the VN
Post your evidence then stupid homosexual. It's your turn to dig through the archive.
My evidence that you’re a schizo?
He has said nothing but the truth in that post.
Chiyomaru deserves it for telling Americans to go back to their country during one of his livestreams.
wtf I love Chiyo now
Frick that slant eyed asiatic, two nukes were not enough.
Read the entire series so far on my Vita and Switch, but I've been told those translations are wrong and I'm wrong for having enjoyed them despite being able to spot the mistakes the translators made. This series is not fun to talk about with others at all.
It's just not fun to talk about anything in existence on Ganker because everything is bad and troony and reddit
I've never seen anyone shit on the translations of SciAdv with the exception of R;N. S;G has one of the best localisations regarding 2chan speak
That guy's illustrations are pure sex.
is there an artbook I missed out on?
They're illustrations in a cosplay book given out / sold at Science Adventure Live 2018 - SINGULARITY. And no-one who got a copy scanned it as far as I'm aware which is supremely irritating.
JP girls in pantyhose, my greatest weakness...
I share that weakness brother.
Damn straight.
Asking seriously, wasn't there supposed to be a western adaptation of SG? If they sold rights to that to get made, surely they could hang in there for some more years no?
I hope it gets canned. Frick Netflix and frick westernization of Japanese media
Yuusha, Yamemasu was a lot better than I expected.
>no one buys chaos head noah because people are waiting for the fan patch
>they frick up their deadline and still haven't released it
>company dies in the meantime
Probably didn't actually matter much in the grand scheme of things but lol
they were in financial issues for years before Chaos Head, and Anonymous Code being in localization limbo. The problem is they pulled a Platinum before Platinum did and they burdened themselves with publishing
They couldn't recover from the Chaos;Child is Xbox One exclusive fiasco.
>waiting for the CoZ troonyslation patch
ISHYGDDT
They knew too much.
>Syuchi
This way of writing names is mega cringe
how would you write it?
修一=しゅういち=Shuuichi
That syu shit is dumb
>VN will die in your timeline
good, you will never be a real vidoegame
that's sad, mages was always cute in neptunia
Quints Chads. When is the english patch coming out?
I liked 0 even with its flaws go frick yourselves. you guys are being gays.
I like 0 because it has Maho
how is it possible to not profit off this series? Where did the money go? This obsession with spending literally all of your money is so stupid. How big was the team when they made chaos;child?
>Where did the money go?
they reinvested the money into the company, went into self publishing, bought a bunch of useless IPs and tried to go multimedia. They tried to run before they could learn to walk. Miling SG until people hated it was how they stayed afloat but that well dried up.
They tried to milk S;G in a very stupid way and wouldn't give us cute OkaKuri fluff.
should have put out fun games more often. They put out just a few, then went silent...
I've read over 1000 hours of VN now and Kurisu is still the best girl
I should start a list of incompetent Jap companies:
>Level 5
>Falcom
>Mages
dont forget Platinum
Sega
5
Frick Hino and his incompetent ass
What did Falcom do?
Sales have declined for Trails in Japan (because of dumb decisions such as sticking with PS, even when the Japanese market favored Switch more and more). And normally, it'd be mitigated by overseas sales, but now it'll take about three years just for NISA to localize the latest entry of the series, since concurrent translation is more or less impossible with the way in which Falcom works.
are we still getting a steins gate continuation? I'm a little frustrated that the studio spent so many years on flop VNs instead of focusing on the one attempt that worked
Steins Gate 0 Elite was the latest project they were working on, and MAGES never finished that so...
>flop VNs
C;H and R;N both sold more than 100k copies
>ywn have a Kurisu gf
That's a low blow anon.
what you meant to say was
>ywn have a suzuha gf
That's also a low blow.
oh my science
steins gate was a fluke and everything else that came after was dogshit
The only game from them from basically the past decade people didn't hate was Famicom Detective Club and they didn't even write it
So how much is actually missing in the steam release of Chaos Head Noah?
And how important is the Commitee of Zero patch?
Kinda unbeliveable that they still dont provide a patch because of some bullshit bug reasons like flashing that could affect people with seizures etc.
https://twitter.com/CommitteeOf0/status/1608359159661223939 (embed)
Considering to just playing the steam release, I dont mind translation errors and more worried about stuff missing or being cut.
I heard there are entire scenes that are not in it.
And are these translations real?
Especially "manchild" and "numbskull", wtf.
>Literal:
>Group diving
>Pregnancy man
>Punishment of crucifixion
>Vampire
>Brain death
>Delicious hand
>DQN Puzzle
>Commitee of Zero:
>Group Dive
>Manchild
>Cruc-affixion
>Vampbuyer
>Numbskull
>Finger Food
>DQN Puzzle
>he fell for the "CoZ is good" meme
lmao
wtf, this is worse than I thought.
Makes total sense though looking at their twitter posts.
Do you know how much stuff is missing with the steam release?
Looking at that screenshot I probably play that version regardless.
Why is this always happening..
This is the current explanation if you care.
Not too happy with Manchild, but I understand that the goals of translation are subjective.
>we've had pregnant men officially recognized as such ever since 2002
what is wrong with translators
How exactly do you go bankrupt while making VNs?
friendly reminder that steins;gate is not even the best game in the SciADV series
They deserved it, Steins Gate is the most overrated dogshit I've ever seen.
explain why it's bad contrarian homosexual
It's Babby's First Time Travel Story tier. I could barely get through the first act because of all the stale memes as well. On top of that you homosexuals can't even get best girl right.
>best girl
this is the type of low IQ homosexuals we're dealing with
you can't even get through the first act of a VN due to your attention span
Good job dodging actual criticism when S;G threads fricking REVOLVE around waifu homosexualry. kys along with your dead franchise mongrel.
>actual criticism
you don't have one you mush brain
>muh babby's first time travel
is not a fricking jab at the story, you are moronic
The story is derivative as frick, with aadditional anime cliches sprinkled in to make it even worse if that were possible. Christopher is literally only there for neet homosexual wish fulfillment. And its already been proven what homosexual troons the localizers are. And every other data entry is literally a meme, the game is basically co-written by reddit. Kurisu can suck black wieners in IP hell.
Damn we've got time-travelling troons as well now? Kinda fitting tbh
I mean Luca is kind of a time traveling troony. Even though he's actually just a little homosexual.
Actually really bothers me when people call him trans (which I know you didn't do) because it just shows that you literally didn't understand his character or arc.
these morons also call Naoto trans, so I wouldn't expect any less
>anime cliches
not an argument
>neet homosexual wish fulfillment
Okabe is not a NEET
>data entry is a meme
it's 2chan lingo and STEM terminology for people not in the know
>co-written by reddit
??
>black wieners
have a nice day troony
Through that entire paragraph you've said absolutely nothing of value or nuance. I wonder what other opinions you parrot
>why is the story steeped in otaku & internet culture full of memes and eccentric weirdos
Otakus are the kind of troony degenerates that don't deserve to have a show about them. Dr. Reddit or Howowin or whatever her name is one internet comment away from transitioning into a women like her friend Luka, and they probably have a Discord channel together where they talk about estrogen and how to ruin the internet, Mayushii is a braindead autist who can't tie her shoes without Dr. Reddit's help, the Daria guy is a fat slob who would never get a gf irl and everyone's favorite waifu is a bawd who hungers for (my) BBC. I wish God would just nuke the anime fandom for good.
This
>samehomosexual Black person having a meltdown
pick one better time travel story.
Name 3 better time travel stories then
>better time travel stories
Just fricking pick one lmao
Lol, what a pathetic attempt to dodge the question
>cliche shit characters
>shitty ironic humor
>annoying mc
What a mystery.
It's over
https://www.youtube.com/@bye9793/featured
I was subbed to this channel, I do not know who it is, I think they changed their name to this and deleted all their videos.
>In a rather public case of crossed wires, MAGES. president Chiyomaru Shikura announced on Twitter that he filed a copyright strike against HOLOSTARS Virtual YouTuber Minase Rio's Anonymous;Code livestream on Thursday. He complained that the VTuber streamed the game beyond the point that the company allows permission for, and said that he has taken action as the original creator. The video was subsequently removed from YouTube.
>Both Chiyomaru and the Science Adventure Twitter had to make hasty apologies soon afterwards, however, because it turned out that the company had already made an agreement with Rio's agency beforehand to permit the stream. The corporate apology was so hasty, in fact, that it spelled Rio's name wrong and had to apologize for that as well in a separate tweet.
>In December 2022, it was reported that Mages would enter insolvency as a result of financial losses of ¥613,000 million (approximately US$4.6 million).
>In January 2023, Chiyomaru Shikura announced via Twitter that he would resign as company Chairman and Executive Director
Vtubers killed steins;gate
Not just any vtuber lmao
Holostars; the worst performing big company vtuber group in Japan.
>gave the vtumor and the company they work for explicit permission to stream the game beforehand
vtumors didnt kill stein gates MAGES being moronic and milking it along with chiyomaru being a schizo killed steins gae
Anoncode was the most ambitious and expensive game they worked on, bringing Uchikoshi back and all. It was going to determine the fate of the company. And then Chiyomaru pulled this shit which resulted in a boycott that torpedoed it.
jesus fricking christ what a moron
Like posted before Mages had a chronic problem with copyright strikes for dubious reasons to begin with so people were already out for blood. The vtuber thing was just an excuse to ramp it up.
Where can I read more about the boycott?
Japanese twitter
Imagine making VNs and going bankrupt. It's just a bunch of images and some text.
When they greenlit that Kurisu artificial intelligence shit it was already over. No way a company could ever produce good writing after that.
>VN industry is DEAD
Good.
Wasn't Rance X a huge success?
What does that have anything to do with Science Adventure?
Why do VNs feel like they are made to appeal to younger audiences who don't even like to read even though everyone who got into VNs in their golden age is in their late 20s, 30s and 40s?
they appeal to kissless virgins who arent comfortable talking to women, because all you have to do is push A a bunch of times, and BAM, kurisu loves you back
That's all of japanese media.
So if they declare insolvency, will their games become unavailable to buy in a few months/year?
The IPs will likely be sold off and whoever picks it up will pick up the profit from any further sales.
The company doesn't own the IPs, Chiyomaru personally does. That's how they've always rolled. He also personally owns the Kid IPs like Ever17 and Memories Off. He'll just go find investors and start a new company.
Don't know too much about the guy, but from what I've read in this thread, he comes off as an incompetent and arrogant businessman.
He wasn't even a businessman to begin with, he was the music guy on the Kid era games. He's a composer. Mages did okay because he has a lot of connections from his Kid days and he's famous for being their composer, not because he's particularly good at business. The S;G interviews with Nitroplus mentioned how they worked with him because they knew about him from Memories Off which they're fans of, and Uchikoshi writing for A;C is clearly a connection from the Kid days.
But he's moronic for doing stupid shit that has legit pissed off his fanbase and shit. If I were I would never do any business that would damaged me even further.
Yeah, the point I was making is that he's not a businessman and should never have been put in charge of making business decisions because he was always just some music guy who started Mages because he wanted to become an ideas guy.
>Make niche games
>Instead of selling them to everyone interested, lock them to a platform
Smart as the japanese are, they can't adapt very quickly.
MUH SCIENCE NOOOOOO
WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE IN IT HARD ENOUGH?!
Bump for last post before auto sage for a garbage dying franchise.
Too bad that Steinstards will never stop being annoying.
Seethe.
Do you think she's secretly as pervy as her dad?
t. CERN satanists
FRICK CHIYOMARU!
Sad news.
But at least their stories got told.
SGhomosexuals are the Black folk of the VN genre
>forgetting that Muramasagays exist
Guys. Quickly. How do I get into Muv Luv and how do I have sex with Stella?