The only non-graphics ways in which it's better are 1) combat is more fluid and smoother, and 2) there's more colour in the environments. I don't deny those things. But every single other way, it's worse than NV.
>combat is more fluid and smoother
So it's better in every way that matters? I'm glad you agree anon. >But every single other way, it's worse than NV. >muh writing >muh plot >muh thesis >muh antithesis
Listen, Sawyer is one programming sock away from transitioning and Avellone is a homosexual. The writing doesn't matter, has never mattered and will never matter.
Gameplaywise and mechanically Fallout 4 is better, and that's all that matters.
Stop being a fucking autist.
There's more to gameplay than combat, though.
Yes, Fallout 4 has better combat (not that it's a big hurdle to jump), but in terms of gameplay elements like skills, dialogue choices, exploration, encounter variety, etc., NV is still better.
>There's more to gameplay than combat, though.
No there isn't.
Lmao what about muh dialogue? Boy it sure is nice not being able to tell a questgiver to fuck off. And you know what’s better? That voiced protagonist, boy it sure makes sense in this kind of role playing game! And those radiant quests are so much fun! I love going to random uninteresting locations to pick up worthless junk for some rando!
>Lmao what about muh dialogue?
That falls under writing, it literally doesn't matter.
>FNV has Joshua Graham who is portrayed as a positive person and managed to convert real life players to Christianity >F4’s preacher literally believes in nothing. His church is just a big empty building for people to pray to their individual gods of any denomination because they apparently can’t do that in their own house for some reason.
Which game is for trannies now?
>and managed to convert real life players to Christianity >this is a good thing
God I hate Vegastrannies.
By the way i am not shitting on Fo4, i take that over NV every single time because i shit you not, i knew a high school friend who trooned out in 2014 because of NV, and most of the modders, mainly the TTW ones trooned out, many i knew for years.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>i knew a high school friend who trooned out in 2014 because of NV
The New Vegas to tranny pipeline is real.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I shit you not anon, All of the obsidian community is like this, mainly the KOTOR2 fags made a ton of Fedorafags come out of the woodwork, said people who is now shilling NySöYWars
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why are you talking to yourself?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
[...] >the buttpain
Kek its real
Oh this is fucking incredible lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
See how easy that is
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's not why I'm laughing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I shit you not anon, All of the obsidian community is like this, mainly the KOTOR2 fags made a ton of Fedorafags come out of the woodwork, said people who is now shilling NySöYWars
>Always dismiss "le NV troon" posts as pojeet schizo gaslighting >One day decide to try this Pokemon Infinite Fusion game everyone's talking about >Sylveon (Eeveelution with pink, blue and white colors) fusions always result in tranny pandering designs >Find out in a video fusing it with Torterra results in a sprite plagued with trooncore references >There's a fucking NV box on it >Comments filled with troons saying they love NV being there and how everyone in the trans community loves the game
You got me, Ganker. I'm just fucking mad one of the games I had most fun with has been taken over by the looney troons.
That said, FO3, 4 and Shtifield are still turds.
The video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aRizBWK25Jo
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'm just fucking mad one of the games I had most fun with has been taken over by the looney troons
Why is it that everyone here are such weak willed apathetic homosexuals? Seriously why do you just let them say it? Why do you just admit defeat at what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Or why should anybody give a shit if some cross dressing pervert degenerates happen to be among the playerbase. NV is good simply for being from the same material as the original fallouts alone. Certainly leagues ahead of the bethesda retarded amusement park design which is like a kid smashing action figures together without rhyme or reason. Which now culminated in the pile of shit Poofield
swear to god what a bunch of weak filled homosexuals getting swayed by the most weaksauce peer pressure
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The difference being, Fallout 1 and 2 aren't infested with trannies, New Vegas is, more so than any other Fallout title.
Anons aren't being swayed by peer pressure, they're swayed by the truth.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
a million times this.
>mogs all NV followers
He and curie were the last gifts Feret boudain gave to fallout before he died.
and he managed to put most of Van buren into Fo4 and 76
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You keep saying that but your only proof is a bunch of fucking twatter and discord memes and a few mods. There’s nothing in NV that has anything to do with troons.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>There’s nothing in NV that has anything to do with troons.
Except the playerbase.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have any proof for that aside memes and nexus garbage?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
> Other than the proof you have what proof do you have?
After you stop in Copenhagen might I suggest a stop in Seethenhagen?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Call the burn ward. That was savage.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>has to hype himself up
Thread not going how you thought?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
80% of mods is just some images? Having to re-read all your posts several times in case you're offending a troon whenever posting a comment on Nexus is just a bunch of images?
Get real, homosexual
Or why should anybody give a shit if some cross dressing pervert degenerates happen to be among the playerbase. NV is good simply for being from the same material as the original fallouts alone. Certainly leagues ahead of the bethesda retarded amusement park design which is like a kid smashing action figures together without rhyme or reason. Which now culminated in the pile of shit Poofield
swear to god what a bunch of weak filled homosexuals getting swayed by the most weaksauce peer pressure
>some cross dressing pervert degenerates happen to be among the playerbase
You mean the grand majority of the playerbase? Sorry, I don't want to be lumped in with the Axe Wound Tribe, if you wanna be one of those allies fine by me, but don't gaslight me with your homosexualry.
And both of you, don't come to me with will homosexualry, this is a fucking videogame. There's nothing about will regarding this subject. Touch some fucking grass, will ya?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>80% of mods
Yeah we can all make shit up? Also are you that new? I’m talking about all the retarded memes that are spammed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You gotta realize, the modders are always a reflection of the community.
Which is why we didn't get a Christian nationalism mod, but instead we got a mod infested with trannies and furries.
Only mentally ill people like NV.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why are you still talking to yourself?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Try replying to both posts dumb fuck.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you having a breakdown? What are you saying?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Alright, I'll do it for you dumb-dumb.
[...] >Always dismiss "le NV troon" posts as pojeet schizo gaslighting >One day decide to try this Pokemon Infinite Fusion game everyone's talking about >Sylveon (Eeveelution with pink, blue and white colors) fusions always result in tranny pandering designs >Find out in a video fusing it with Torterra results in a sprite plagued with trooncore references >There's a fucking NV box on it >Comments filled with troons saying they love NV being there and how everyone in the trans community loves the game
You got me, Ganker. I'm just fucking mad one of the games I had most fun with has been taken over by the looney troons.
That said, FO3, 4 and Shtifield are still turds.
The video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aRizBWK25Jo
You gotta realize, the modders are always a reflection of the community.
Which is why we didn't get a Christian nationalism mod, but instead we got a mod infested with trannies and furries.
Only mentally ill people like NV.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why would that be an issue? You could just take a screencap of your reply, odd you need me to comment to both to do that. But anything to stall for time I guess.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon is just derailing the thread because it isn't going the way they thought it would.
Happens all the time.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Seethe some more for me vegastranny.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The NVfag is the one derailing the thread not me. Old people have a hard time adjusting here. Hell there is one old coot that still , without a hint of irony , claims Morrowind is the greatest game ever
Lmao what about muh dialogue? Boy it sure is nice not being able to tell a questgiver to fuck off. And you know what’s better? That voiced protagonist, boy it sure makes sense in this kind of role playing game! And those radiant quests are so much fun! I love going to random uninteresting locations to pick up worthless junk for some rando!
>writing, plot, and worldbuilding don't matter in an open-world RPG
Why are you even playing Fallout at this point? If all you want is a singleplayer FPS and you only care about the shooting mechanics, then why don't you play Quake or something.
Um, I don't know which part in particular you object to, but the thing that makes a game - a game, is the gameplay. Without it you'd either be watching a movie or reading a novel.
And the combat i.e. the fucking gameplay, is vastly improved in 4, whereas before it was barely playable.
You can be mad about this all you want, but the simple fact is Fallout 4 is objectively a better game than any other Fallout title.
The gameplay isn’t only the combat, what also what you do in between. Exploration is a part of the gameplay, so is settlement building and quests. And in literally everything except the combat and settlement building (which is also pretty meh) Fallout 4 is worse than the other fallouts.
>Fallout 4 is worse than the other fallouts.
It isn't lmao. >settlement building
This is a gameplay system that exists outside of combat.
Reading text and choosing dialogue options isn't gameplay, it's CYOA tier shit.
And no, CYOA aren't video games they're interactive novels.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this is a gameplay system that exists outside of combat
Yea and so are fucking quests, even the main quest. Without those the game would be just a sandbox boring world with NPCs only as cannon fodder. And whether you like it or not, dialogues are a gameplay mechanic, because they tie into your beloved combat. Without that the game would be even more shit than it is now.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Without those the game would be just a sandbox boring world with NPCs only as cannon fodder
That's funny, cause usually the best games are the ones that have an open world sandbox with emergent gameplay.
If you go back and play older RPGs you realize that quests really are just an excuse to get you to fight in the sandbox. >And whether you like it or not, dialogues are a gameplay mechanic,
lmao, no, they aren't. >because they tie into your beloved combat
Exactly, they're an outdated obsolete way to point retards in the right direction. >Without that the game would be even more shit than it is now.
Fallout 76 is also superior to New Vegas.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>admits fo4 is worse than a visual novel or cyoa while trying to say how good the game is
Bethesda really doesn't bother to send their good shills anymore do they
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmao, you're really dumb dude.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>.001 Bethesdabux have been deposited into your account. Keep up the good work!
Fallout 76 mtx dont buy themselves I guess
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill
You really ought to talk to someone anon, get professional help.
Your choices are being a bitchboy for a bunch of useless farmers, helping a bunch of schizo race traitors, joining the whipped boyscouts, or helping your disappointment of a son destroy humanity because science. I can't bring myself to do any of the questlines with how shit they all are.
I prefer 1, 2, and NV, but I'll admit that 4 has some good points. Many would disagree with me, but I think the companions in NV are a boring bunch and I took more of an interest in Nick and Piper in 4.
>FNV has Joshua Graham who is portrayed as a positive person and managed to convert real life players to Christianity >F4’s preacher literally believes in nothing. His church is just a big empty building for people to pray to their individual gods of any denomination because they apparently can’t do that in their own house for some reason.
Which game is for trannies now?
I wish that the settlement building wasn't fixed, and that you could setup camps and towns organically. There's plenty of places where settlements should be but are not available.
I've played it a shit load, mostly during mindless killing and settlement fuckery so I must have 1000 hours in it.
It's not that good. Fallout 3 is better. New Vegas is better than Fallout 3.
1 and 2 are such different genres of games it's hard to judge but I'd hazard that 1 is still objectively better than 4.
This is a troll thread so I care too little to argue.
Shitfield, or are you too busy shaking and tearing up to read properly?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I literally said what I was talking about in my last post, so I guess you are too angry to read.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you have an argument to make, make it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I already did, you tried bringing up the frontier and when it didn’t work you got huffy and started acting retarded.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I completely stand by my Frontier argument vegastranny.
Your shit game, with shit combat, shit gunplay, shit character building, will forever be tainted by it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you did, you would have doubled down at the first opportunity. But instead you got buttmad. Now you’re trying to divert the argument away from the tranny shit. Like I said go back to sucking off blacks and Indians in troonfield while Todd tells you more sweet lies.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Now you’re trying to divert the argument away from the tranny shit
Listen bud, Todd's games might be infested with poos and naggers, but at least they aren't trannies.
Whereas New Vegas is a trannycore game.
that's not an argument. "tainted" is a metaphor that doesn't inherently mean anything.
New Vegas is played and enjoyed by trannies. Sawyer himself is one step away from transitioning, made for trannies, by trannies lmao.
Shilling isnt a disagreement
I'm not shilling. I'm stating facts.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>vegastrannies
Go back to shitfield
You’re trying too hard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why are you talking to yourself?
>the buttpain
Kek its real
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>comment for two different people >replies to both >no screencap
Okay samefag
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
that's not an argument. "tainted" is a metaphor that doesn't inherently mean anything.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
lmao, you're really dumb dude.
you're the most boring troll in the history of Ganker >lol you're stupid lmao kek
why do you even post these threads if you don't have anything to say?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You aren't making any arguments retard, make one and I'll respond to it.
What sucks the most ass about the game is the design of pretty much everything, especially guns.
There’s also the choices that are not as good as NV
And the map isn’t as good as F3, I mean cities-wise. There’s almost no real town outside of diamond city where F3 had Megaton, Tenpenny Tower, Oasis, Little Lamplight, Rivet City, Paradise Falls, Underworld etc. NV had the same problem. Map-wise F3 is the best by far and it’s the reason the game is pretty underrated to me.
But the gun mods, armors/outfitting and the gameplay mechanics are better in F4, it has the coolest BoS and the Glowing Sea is one of the best regions in all of the franchise.
>There’s almost no real town outside of diamond city where F3 had Megaton, Tenpenny Tower, Oasis, Little Lamplight, Rivet City, Paradise Falls, Underworld etc.
this is where the genius of bethesda comes in. Instead of bothering to develop individual locations and script all the associated dialogue and quests and all that garbage give players in game developer tools and have them build what they want instead (settlements). Now everybody is happy
Every dialog boils down to >yes >yes but mean >sarcastic yes >ask me later
Shit game ruined by voiced protag and the shit settlement system. Only survival mode is fun.
Fallout 4, like other Bethesda titles, is designed exclusively for the most casual of casual gamer. My seven year old nephew and his classmates play Fallout 4 and do quite well with it.
Fallout 4 a game that requires no skill, no thought, no planning, no strategy. There are no consequences to your choices and actions. Which ever way you approach the game, the results will be the same. There are no "builds". There is no role playing in this so-called role playing game.
That's fine. Bethesda designs their games with the full intent for it to be approachable by the lowest skilled gamer. Every level of gamer deserves entertainment.
But make no mistake -- Fallout 4 is designed of, by, and for the most casual of casual gamers which is also the largest segment of the consumer base. And that's really Bethesda's ultimate goal -- Not to develop groundbreaking gameplay but to target the largest audience for maximum profit.
>I'm just fucking mad one of the games I had most fun with has been taken over by the looney troons
Why is it that everyone here are such weak willed apathetic homosexuals? Seriously why do you just let them say it? Why do you just admit defeat at what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
>Why do you just admit defeat at what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
Because we're right.
Also picrel.
Ad Hominem is not an argument. You attacked the messenger instead of addressing the message, which is a tacit concession to the facts made in the post.
90% of the complaints from fallout 3 were addressed, I don’t see what the big problem with fallout 4 is
It’s miles better than starfield in the ways you can actually approach quests and different outcomes, and it has a pretty satisfying branching narrative.
I don’t think it’s better than vegas but I really don’t think it was bad at all.
Asides from the writing being quite poor and the UI being dogshit. (But that’s in all nu-fallout games)
OP is trolling but his bait is something plenty of people genuinely believe and those people will eventually outnumber and drown out the people who liked Fallout as an RPG series. The franchise will become a looter shooter and the people who liked the older games (1, 2, even 3, and NV) will be seen as elitist gatekeepers by the majority.
fallout 4 came out 8 years ago and the most recent entry to the franchise was scandalously terrible. and starfield is scandalously terrible. and the next game they're putting out is elder scrolls 6. who gives a shit what zoomers think about fallout? the reality is that they DON'T think about it.
now the retarded fallout troll who is obsessed with trannies is accusing other people of being obsessed with trannies exactly like a tranny would do
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>trannies accuse other people of being trannies >that's just what they do >accuses me of being a tranny
hmmmm
The NVfag is the one derailing the thread not me. Old people have a hard time adjusting here. Hell there is one old coot that still , without a hint of irony , claims Morrowind is the greatest game ever
>claims Morrowind is the greatest game ever
That's because it is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
See. I wasn't lying.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're a tranny then? Of course you are, you enjoy New Vegas.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Where did you get the idea I liked NV? It is far to railroaded for my tastes.
No it's not. So tired of you homosexuals who like slop and then claim it got better. Happened with this piece of shit, happened with NMS, happens every time
Fallout 4 was far and away the worst Bethesda game. That is, until Fallout 76 was released.
Fallout 4 was far and away the second-worst Bethesda game. That is, until Starfield was released.
As it stands now, Fallout 4 is far and away the third worst Bethesda game, and Bethesda now has a track record of releasing progressively very mid jank for a decade now.
> Other than the proof you have what proof do you have?
After you stop in Copenhagen might I suggest a stop in Seethenhagen?
What level of samefagging sorcery is this? Anon must have an algorithm that allows both to hit at the same exact second.
It is the only logical conclusion.
Is this your way of trying to make people calling you out for samefagging look like schizos? Seriously if you’re this desperate just stop. You’re just going to end up resorting to trying to get the last word in timing every post to reach bump limit like you homosexuals always do.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No you solved the case. There is one anon with unlimited resources trying to make you look foolish on an Anonymous Polynesian Macrame Enthusiasts board.
You cracked the case.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No it’s just one seething autist pretending to be multiple people. He using multiple devices and is averse to posting screencaps. I mean you can call me a schizo but in the end you’re not proving me wrong. Just crying and trying everything you can to discredit while not doing the shit that actually can.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am not crazy. Of the 8+ billion people on the planet there is only one person who disagrees with me.
They are in every thread everywhere games are discussed just to piss me off.
At least that is what the voices in my head tell me. They are never wrong.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>samefagging doesn’t exist >you can’t use two devices at the same time >not posting a screen cap immediately isn’t suHispanicious
Meds
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You
You are trying to hide your samefagging
Also you in the same post
Both of you are working as a team to get the last word.
Meds
Take them
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You should get help, I don’t know why your parents even let you have internet access.
>the most boring game in the series >simplified game mechanics for low-iq and low-skill newcomer toddlers >weapon health and character progression wiped out so as not to scare away pride pronounce-in-bio "gamers" >shooting part remains just as shitty as it was in 2008, very cool >graphics is mid for 2014 >RPG game without RPG-mechanics >reddit-tier dialogs and characters >creative stagnation, same foes from previous games, 0 new interesting factions
Todd Howard just hit the spot actually, selling so much copies of this dogshit.
I honestly, really don't know anon.
They're like a parasitic organism that proclaims >LOOK, I'VE COMPLETELY CONSUMED MY HOST
once the husk of whatever they've infiltrated is rotting... like their genitals.
>prowls tranny blogs >lurks on nexus forums >saves tranny memes >I-it’s all for information I swear
Yeah and the kids looking at medical diagrams of naked ladies in school are doing it for educational purposes.
So you aren't even bothering to defend your position , like you could, and are now resorting to insults to derail another thread you aregetting your ass handed to you.
I would posit that rather than conspiratorial rambling on the basis sexual anxieties, that the success of NV among niche communities is reflective of its general broad appeal and level of quality & staying power.
I went in after years of ignoring it in sale after sale and knowing all about the things wrong with it & I was surprised. It was very enjoyable slop till about level 20 ish or so by which time I started getting a little bored & by that time I was ready for Far Harbour which is one of the best things they've done. Well worth the £8 I spent on it.
>No choices >No consequences >No lovingly handplaced unique weapons >Settlement-building shit that has no place in Fallout >Awful faction writing only surpasses by 3 >Revolting SPECIAL and Perk system >Themepark garbage like pirate robots and baseball city >Game is so needy for your love it gives you power armor to kill a deathclaw >Game is clearly meant to be played as the male soldier
Should I go on?
>>No choices >>No consequences
I assume you refer to quest C&C, that shit doesn't matter. It's an illusion. Added sprinkles on the gameplay cupcake. >>No lovingly handplaced unique weapons
But an excellent weapon and armor modding system.
-building shit that has no place in Fallout
Building settlements in the post apocalypse has no place in a post apocalyptic game? That's a fucking hot take there lad.
faction writing only surpasses by 3 >writing
who gives a shit?
SPECIAL and Perk system
New Vegas isn't much better. Out of all the perks maybe like 10 are really good, the rest are largely flavor or useless skill boosts.
If anything Fallout 4 perks are more impactful unironically.
garbage like pirate robots and baseball city
As opposed to cowboys and Romans in postapocalyptic Nevada? >>Game is so needy for your love it gives you power armor to kill a deathclaw
Which is based and fun. >>Game is clearly meant to be played as the male soldier
Why would you want to play as the female lawyer?
>Why would you want to play as the female lawyer?
I just find women more pleasing to look at plus I like seeing them with some curve with CBBE
I'll preface this by saying I genuinely enjoy both games and I have only slightly more hours in FNV.
what F4 does better >ballistic weapons >nuclear weapons >weapon mods >power armor (wish it required a perk to use or something and fuck the fuel system but at least it has durability) >companions >graphics (kind of cheating) >mods >ambient music >settlements, fuck you i like them
what FNV does better >melee and unarmed by a LOT >energy weapons >heavy weapons >explosive weapons >skills existing >more interesting unique perks that aren't just replacements for skills >build variety >writing (wrapping dialogue, story and worldbuilding into one since it's better at all) >armor >repair requirements existing >non-scaling enemies >gore >enemy variety >factions worth giving a fuck about >actions have consequences outside the main story (and are more impactful within it) >unique weapons >DLCs >BoS >super mutants >deathclaws
tied with good points on both sides >radio >rewarding exploration >ability to go wherever whenever and do things out of order (slightly stronger in FNV but very possible in F4)
There's more to all of these categories but it's been about a year since I played 4 and months since I last played FNV. I might go back to FNV now though, I've been considering a heavily modded playthrough for a while now since I mostly just play vanilla with a couple fixes and graphical improvements.
I also like settlement building, idk why people write it off instead of giving it a fair chance
I'll preface this by saying I genuinely enjoy both games and I have only slightly more hours in FNV.
what F4 does better >ballistic weapons >nuclear weapons >weapon mods >power armor (wish it required a perk to use or something and fuck the fuel system but at least it has durability) >companions >graphics (kind of cheating) >mods >ambient music >settlements, fuck you i like them
what FNV does better >melee and unarmed by a LOT >energy weapons >heavy weapons >explosive weapons >skills existing >more interesting unique perks that aren't just replacements for skills >build variety >writing (wrapping dialogue, story and worldbuilding into one since it's better at all) >armor >repair requirements existing >non-scaling enemies >gore >enemy variety >factions worth giving a fuck about >actions have consequences outside the main story (and are more impactful within it) >unique weapons >DLCs >BoS >super mutants >deathclaws
tied with good points on both sides >radio >rewarding exploration >ability to go wherever whenever and do things out of order (slightly stronger in FNV but very possible in F4)
There's more to all of these categories but it's been about a year since I played 4 and months since I last played FNV. I might go back to FNV now though, I've been considering a heavily modded playthrough for a while now since I mostly just play vanilla with a couple fixes and graphical improvements.
New Vegas mods are fairly limiting I tried a heavy modded playthrough and just couldn't bring myself to finish even a portion of what I added, overall not an enjoyable experience
The modding scene for 4 is light-years richer imo
>ambient music
does it? I don't dislike Inon Zur in particular but his works under Bethesda direction really pale in comparison to the OG Fallout soundtrack
mind you the F4 soundtrack is nowhere as bad as the F3 one
its absolute fucking dogshit
Preordered after how good skyrim was and couldnt play it for more than 30hours thats how shit it was >minigun is shit >quest are shit >writing is full schizo >trash collecting is a gameplay focus >all guns look like shit
I usually use the Lost World pack and alter from there to my liking, comes with a shitton of gun replacers and animation enhancements it can be a little jank at times however
All i want is a Fo4 mod pack that is completely stuck on the cold war gear as the damn game's army, minutemen and BoS outfits themselves are For those who don't know, all of BoS gear is based on the soviet ones from the afghan war
The only non-graphics ways in which it's better are 1) combat is more fluid and smoother, and 2) there's more colour in the environments. I don't deny those things. But every single other way, it's worse than NV.
>combat is more fluid and smoother
So it's better in every way that matters? I'm glad you agree anon.
>But every single other way, it's worse than NV.
>muh writing
>muh plot
>muh thesis
>muh antithesis
Listen, Sawyer is one programming sock away from transitioning and Avellone is a homosexual. The writing doesn't matter, has never mattered and will never matter.
Gameplaywise and mechanically Fallout 4 is better, and that's all that matters.
Stop being a fucking autist.
There's more to gameplay than combat, though.
Yes, Fallout 4 has better combat (not that it's a big hurdle to jump), but in terms of gameplay elements like skills, dialogue choices, exploration, encounter variety, etc., NV is still better.
>There's more to gameplay than combat, though.
No there isn't.
>Lmao what about muh dialogue?
That falls under writing, it literally doesn't matter.
>and managed to convert real life players to Christianity
>this is a good thing
God I hate Vegastrannies.
>No there isn't
So what do you call it when you're playing the game but not shooting anyone?
>So what do you call it when you're playing the game but not shooting anyone?
Reading a novel.
Watching a movie.
>dialogue in a roleplaying game doesn’t matter
go back to cod kid
>Believing in God is.. le BAD
I sense a fedora but i wonder who is behind this post
By the way i am not shitting on Fo4, i take that over NV every single time because i shit you not, i knew a high school friend who trooned out in 2014 because of NV, and most of the modders, mainly the TTW ones trooned out, many i knew for years.
>i knew a high school friend who trooned out in 2014 because of NV
The New Vegas to tranny pipeline is real.
I shit you not anon, All of the obsidian community is like this, mainly the KOTOR2 fags made a ton of Fedorafags come out of the woodwork, said people who is now shilling NySöYWars
Why are you talking to yourself?
Oh this is fucking incredible lmao.
See how easy that is
That's not why I'm laughing.
?
>Always dismiss "le NV troon" posts as pojeet schizo gaslighting
>One day decide to try this Pokemon Infinite Fusion game everyone's talking about
>Sylveon (Eeveelution with pink, blue and white colors) fusions always result in tranny pandering designs
>Find out in a video fusing it with Torterra results in a sprite plagued with trooncore references
>There's a fucking NV box on it
>Comments filled with troons saying they love NV being there and how everyone in the trans community loves the game
You got me, Ganker. I'm just fucking mad one of the games I had most fun with has been taken over by the looney troons.
That said, FO3, 4 and Shtifield are still turds.
The video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aRizBWK25Jo
>I'm just fucking mad one of the games I had most fun with has been taken over by the looney troons
Why is it that everyone here are such weak willed apathetic homosexuals? Seriously why do you just let them say it? Why do you just admit defeat at what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
Or why should anybody give a shit if some cross dressing pervert degenerates happen to be among the playerbase. NV is good simply for being from the same material as the original fallouts alone. Certainly leagues ahead of the bethesda retarded amusement park design which is like a kid smashing action figures together without rhyme or reason. Which now culminated in the pile of shit Poofield
swear to god what a bunch of weak filled homosexuals getting swayed by the most weaksauce peer pressure
The difference being, Fallout 1 and 2 aren't infested with trannies, New Vegas is, more so than any other Fallout title.
Anons aren't being swayed by peer pressure, they're swayed by the truth.
a million times this.
He and curie were the last gifts Feret boudain gave to fallout before he died.
and he managed to put most of Van buren into Fo4 and 76
You keep saying that but your only proof is a bunch of fucking twatter and discord memes and a few mods. There’s nothing in NV that has anything to do with troons.
>There’s nothing in NV that has anything to do with troons.
Except the playerbase.
You have any proof for that aside memes and nexus garbage?
> Other than the proof you have what proof do you have?
After you stop in Copenhagen might I suggest a stop in Seethenhagen?
Call the burn ward. That was savage.
>has to hype himself up
Thread not going how you thought?
>what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
80% of mods is just some images? Having to re-read all your posts several times in case you're offending a troon whenever posting a comment on Nexus is just a bunch of images?
Get real, homosexual
>some cross dressing pervert degenerates happen to be among the playerbase
You mean the grand majority of the playerbase? Sorry, I don't want to be lumped in with the Axe Wound Tribe, if you wanna be one of those allies fine by me, but don't gaslight me with your homosexualry.
And both of you, don't come to me with will homosexualry, this is a fucking videogame. There's nothing about will regarding this subject. Touch some fucking grass, will ya?
>80% of mods
Yeah we can all make shit up? Also are you that new? I’m talking about all the retarded memes that are spammed.
You gotta realize, the modders are always a reflection of the community.
Which is why we didn't get a Christian nationalism mod, but instead we got a mod infested with trannies and furries.
Only mentally ill people like NV.
Why are you still talking to yourself?
Try replying to both posts dumb fuck.
Are you having a breakdown? What are you saying?
Alright, I'll do it for you dumb-dumb.
Why would that be an issue? You could just take a screencap of your reply, odd you need me to comment to both to do that. But anything to stall for time I guess.
Anon is just derailing the thread because it isn't going the way they thought it would.
Happens all the time.
Seethe some more for me vegastranny.
The NVfag is the one derailing the thread not me. Old people have a hard time adjusting here. Hell there is one old coot that still , without a hint of irony , claims Morrowind is the greatest game ever
Pretty much, retard hasn’t even played 4
Why are you talking to yourself anon?
It really isn’t hard
>hates christians
>hates trannies
lol now I know you're just a troll
Ok retard
Lmao what about muh dialogue? Boy it sure is nice not being able to tell a questgiver to fuck off. And you know what’s better? That voiced protagonist, boy it sure makes sense in this kind of role playing game! And those radiant quests are so much fun! I love going to random uninteresting locations to pick up worthless junk for some rando!
>writing, plot, and worldbuilding don't matter in an open-world RPG
Why are you even playing Fallout at this point? If all you want is a singleplayer FPS and you only care about the shooting mechanics, then why don't you play Quake or something.
Why did they make an RPG as an FPS then?
If you want an RPG go play BG3 or something.
How to out yourself as a retard who's opinion doesn't matter in one post
I hoped that this is some funny bait thread but you're just retarded
Um, I don't know which part in particular you object to, but the thing that makes a game - a game, is the gameplay. Without it you'd either be watching a movie or reading a novel.
And the combat i.e. the fucking gameplay, is vastly improved in 4, whereas before it was barely playable.
You can be mad about this all you want, but the simple fact is Fallout 4 is objectively a better game than any other Fallout title.
The gameplay isn’t only the combat, what also what you do in between. Exploration is a part of the gameplay, so is settlement building and quests. And in literally everything except the combat and settlement building (which is also pretty meh) Fallout 4 is worse than the other fallouts.
>Fallout 4 is worse than the other fallouts.
It isn't lmao.
>settlement building
This is a gameplay system that exists outside of combat.
Reading text and choosing dialogue options isn't gameplay, it's CYOA tier shit.
And no, CYOA aren't video games they're interactive novels.
>this is a gameplay system that exists outside of combat
Yea and so are fucking quests, even the main quest. Without those the game would be just a sandbox boring world with NPCs only as cannon fodder. And whether you like it or not, dialogues are a gameplay mechanic, because they tie into your beloved combat. Without that the game would be even more shit than it is now.
>Without those the game would be just a sandbox boring world with NPCs only as cannon fodder
That's funny, cause usually the best games are the ones that have an open world sandbox with emergent gameplay.
If you go back and play older RPGs you realize that quests really are just an excuse to get you to fight in the sandbox.
>And whether you like it or not, dialogues are a gameplay mechanic,
lmao, no, they aren't.
>because they tie into your beloved combat
Exactly, they're an outdated obsolete way to point retards in the right direction.
>Without that the game would be even more shit than it is now.
Fallout 76 is also superior to New Vegas.
>admits fo4 is worse than a visual novel or cyoa while trying to say how good the game is
Bethesda really doesn't bother to send their good shills anymore do they
lmao, you're really dumb dude.
>.001 Bethesdabux have been deposited into your account. Keep up the good work!
Fallout 76 mtx dont buy themselves I guess
>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill
You really ought to talk to someone anon, get professional help.
Shilling isnt a disagreement
Better companions.
Better power armor
Better verticality
Defending NV will require more effort than that .
I would explain why NV is better, but it’s far too complicated for you to understand.
Translation. I can't find a legit reason why NV is better but still want to be smug about liking it.
No worries. Just mumble something about the writing and declare victory.
What’s wrong with that answer? Doesn’t it provide a good and adequate explanation?
No it did not. All it provided was proof anon could not think of a single reason to support his argument.
So you’re saying that it’s bad? Would you think another person using that as an answer is equally retarded?
How are you confused by my posts? Is English not your native tongue?
No just making sure, also if you’re going to pretend to like a game at least play it first.
Your choices are being a bitchboy for a bunch of useless farmers, helping a bunch of schizo race traitors, joining the whipped boyscouts, or helping your disappointment of a son destroy humanity because science. I can't bring myself to do any of the questlines with how shit they all are.
I prefer 1, 2, and NV, but I'll admit that 4 has some good points. Many would disagree with me, but I think the companions in NV are a boring bunch and I took more of an interest in Nick and Piper in 4.
>FNV has Joshua Graham who is portrayed as a positive person and managed to convert real life players to Christianity
>F4’s preacher literally believes in nothing. His church is just a big empty building for people to pray to their individual gods of any denomination because they apparently can’t do that in their own house for some reason.
Which game is for trannies now?
Well, OP is literally a tranny so that's pretty obvious.
I hate bethesdadrones it's unreal, and, no, I like only first 2 games
I wish that the settlement building wasn't fixed, and that you could setup camps and towns organically. There's plenty of places where settlements should be but are not available.
Technical limitations.
But settlement building is an amazing system and great addition to Fallout.
I've played it a shit load, mostly during mindless killing and settlement fuckery so I must have 1000 hours in it.
It's not that good. Fallout 3 is better. New Vegas is better than Fallout 3.
1 and 2 are such different genres of games it's hard to judge but I'd hazard that 1 is still objectively better than 4.
This is a troll thread so I care too little to argue.
>my opinion is different than yours
>therefor you're trolling
Alright man.
>vegastrannies
Go back to shitfield
You don't get to talk down to anyone, ever, vegastranny.
>mod that’s separate from the game
>game developed by Bethesda
Kek, that’s a new level of cope right there.
Yes, but the mod was so shit and degenerate that all vegastrannies will forever be tied to it.
Not really, but keep seething about how your chad Christian games ended up being pozzed to the bone.
kek, what the fuck are you talking about retard?
Shitfield, or are you too busy shaking and tearing up to read properly?
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
I literally said what I was talking about in my last post, so I guess you are too angry to read.
If you have an argument to make, make it.
I already did, you tried bringing up the frontier and when it didn’t work you got huffy and started acting retarded.
I completely stand by my Frontier argument vegastranny.
Your shit game, with shit combat, shit gunplay, shit character building, will forever be tainted by it.
If you did, you would have doubled down at the first opportunity. But instead you got buttmad. Now you’re trying to divert the argument away from the tranny shit. Like I said go back to sucking off blacks and Indians in troonfield while Todd tells you more sweet lies.
>Now you’re trying to divert the argument away from the tranny shit
Listen bud, Todd's games might be infested with poos and naggers, but at least they aren't trannies.
Whereas New Vegas is a trannycore game.
New Vegas is played and enjoyed by trannies. Sawyer himself is one step away from transitioning, made for trannies, by trannies lmao.
I'm not shilling. I'm stating facts.
You’re trying too hard
>the buttpain
Kek its real
>comment for two different people
>replies to both
>no screencap
Okay samefag
that's not an argument. "tainted" is a metaphor that doesn't inherently mean anything.
you're the most boring troll in the history of Ganker
>lol you're stupid lmao kek
why do you even post these threads if you don't have anything to say?
You aren't making any arguments retard, make one and I'll respond to it.
What sucks the most ass about the game is the design of pretty much everything, especially guns.
There’s also the choices that are not as good as NV
And the map isn’t as good as F3, I mean cities-wise. There’s almost no real town outside of diamond city where F3 had Megaton, Tenpenny Tower, Oasis, Little Lamplight, Rivet City, Paradise Falls, Underworld etc. NV had the same problem. Map-wise F3 is the best by far and it’s the reason the game is pretty underrated to me.
But the gun mods, armors/outfitting and the gameplay mechanics are better in F4, it has the coolest BoS and the Glowing Sea is one of the best regions in all of the franchise.
>There’s almost no real town outside of diamond city where F3 had Megaton, Tenpenny Tower, Oasis, Little Lamplight, Rivet City, Paradise Falls, Underworld etc.
this is where the genius of bethesda comes in. Instead of bothering to develop individual locations and script all the associated dialogue and quests and all that garbage give players in game developer tools and have them build what they want instead (settlements). Now everybody is happy
Every dialog boils down to
>yes
>yes but mean
>sarcastic yes
>ask me later
Shit game ruined by voiced protag and the shit settlement system. Only survival mode is fun.
Fallout 4 is fine, but the only thing thats makes my eye twitch is janky and unrealistic models of guns that literally fucking the whole gun logic
True.
Fallout 4, like other Bethesda titles, is designed exclusively for the most casual of casual gamer. My seven year old nephew and his classmates play Fallout 4 and do quite well with it.
Fallout 4 a game that requires no skill, no thought, no planning, no strategy. There are no consequences to your choices and actions. Which ever way you approach the game, the results will be the same. There are no "builds". There is no role playing in this so-called role playing game.
That's fine. Bethesda designs their games with the full intent for it to be approachable by the lowest skilled gamer. Every level of gamer deserves entertainment.
But make no mistake -- Fallout 4 is designed of, by, and for the most casual of casual gamers which is also the largest segment of the consumer base. And that's really Bethesda's ultimate goal -- Not to develop groundbreaking gameplay but to target the largest audience for maximum profit.
>reddit spacing
Dipping your toes into Ganker, ey vegastranny?
Ask me how I know your IQ is paralyzingly low.
How do you know bro?
>Why do you just admit defeat at what amounts to some images and a bunch of retards screaming the same thing?
Because we're right.
Also picrel.
Are you? Literally everything that has to do with the tranny meme is outside of the actual base game.
Ad Hominem is not an argument. You attacked the messenger instead of addressing the message, which is a tacit concession to the facts made in the post.
Paragraphs. You cannot into them.
>paragraphs
We don't do 'em here. Try going back to where you belong vegastroon.
>We don't do literacy here
Spoken like an authentic low-IQ Bethesdadrone.
>falling back on ad hominem
>still hasn't refuted the message
Victory
Sure is a good company you are defending there, bethdrone.
Does constantly crying about getting BTFO help? It sounds like it does.
90% of the complaints from fallout 3 were addressed, I don’t see what the big problem with fallout 4 is
It’s miles better than starfield in the ways you can actually approach quests and different outcomes, and it has a pretty satisfying branching narrative.
I don’t think it’s better than vegas but I really don’t think it was bad at all.
Asides from the writing being quite poor and the UI being dogshit. (But that’s in all nu-fallout games)
One of the worst games I've ever played, have a nice day. There is not a single thing it does that's actually good.
>There is not a single thing it does that's actually good.
This is true and it's still better than New Vegas, which does everything horribly.
OP is trolling but his bait is something plenty of people genuinely believe and those people will eventually outnumber and drown out the people who liked Fallout as an RPG series. The franchise will become a looter shooter and the people who liked the older games (1, 2, even 3, and NV) will be seen as elitist gatekeepers by the majority.
>will be seen as elitist gatekeepers by the majority.
It already is, perhaps not the majority, but you can find the comments on youtube and reddit.
I mean shit, the guys on NMA have been bitching about Fallout sequels since 2008.
> They will be seen as elitest gatekeepers.
Doubt.
They will be seen as old men yelling at kids to get off their lawn.
fallout 4 came out 8 years ago and the most recent entry to the franchise was scandalously terrible. and starfield is scandalously terrible. and the next game they're putting out is elder scrolls 6. who gives a shit what zoomers think about fallout? the reality is that they DON'T think about it.
>and the most recent entry to the franchise was scandalously terrible
On release, sure. 76 is actually, unironically fairly decent now.
unironically who gives a shit? the only person I know of who unironically plays fallout 76 is that unironic tranny freak sinseer.
Follow a lot of trannies do ya?
now the retarded fallout troll who is obsessed with trannies is accusing other people of being obsessed with trannies exactly like a tranny would do
>trannies accuse other people of being trannies
>that's just what they do
>accuses me of being a tranny
hmmmm
>claims Morrowind is the greatest game ever
That's because it is.
See. I wasn't lying.
You're a tranny then? Of course you are, you enjoy New Vegas.
Where did you get the idea I liked NV? It is far to railroaded for my tastes.
No it's not. So tired of you homosexuals who like slop and then claim it got better. Happened with this piece of shit, happened with NMS, happens every time
Idk if I'd say it's the best, most of my enjoyment from Fallout 4 comes from modding
Contrarian bait thread
>mogs all NV followers
Fallout 4 was far and away the worst Bethesda game. That is, until Fallout 76 was released.
Fallout 4 was far and away the second-worst Bethesda game. That is, until Starfield was released.
As it stands now, Fallout 4 is far and away the third worst Bethesda game, and Bethesda now has a track record of releasing progressively very mid jank for a decade now.
>Fallout 4 was far and away the worst Bethesda game. That is, until Fallout 76 was released.
True.
But they're still better than Obsidian goyslop.
So the newer games are bad while the older games are good?
What a unique hot take.
Sawyer is very tranny whilst Avellone is very not tranny, which makes for a very strange half-tranny and half not tranny game
Sawyer really does look like he's about ready to transition. Even one of the major figures behind New Vegas is basically a troon at this point LMAO
>Lists my proof
>Asks where's the proof
Anon, I really don't know what to tell ya.
Wow it’s like you can’t actually back up anything you say.
I can. My source is: Go fuck yourself vegastranny.
>can’t give proof when pressed
>gets assblasted
Predictable
What level of samefagging sorcery is this? Anon must have an algorithm that allows both to hit at the same exact second.
It is the only logical conclusion.
Or he’s just posting from his phone and computer.
Probably tracking ping times across networks to appear as two anons when two posts hit at the exact second.
The only logical conclusion. Probably had Govt backing. At least Microsoft has to be providing the software.
Clear as day anon. They can't fool you.
Is this your way of trying to make people calling you out for samefagging look like schizos? Seriously if you’re this desperate just stop. You’re just going to end up resorting to trying to get the last word in timing every post to reach bump limit like you homosexuals always do.
No you solved the case. There is one anon with unlimited resources trying to make you look foolish on an Anonymous Polynesian Macrame Enthusiasts board.
You cracked the case.
No it’s just one seething autist pretending to be multiple people. He using multiple devices and is averse to posting screencaps. I mean you can call me a schizo but in the end you’re not proving me wrong. Just crying and trying everything you can to discredit while not doing the shit that actually can.
I am not crazy. Of the 8+ billion people on the planet there is only one person who disagrees with me.
They are in every thread everywhere games are discussed just to piss me off.
At least that is what the voices in my head tell me. They are never wrong.
>samefagging doesn’t exist
>you can’t use two devices at the same time
>not posting a screen cap immediately isn’t suHispanicious
Meds
You
You are trying to hide your samefagging
Also you in the same post
Both of you are working as a team to get the last word.
Meds
Take them
You should get help, I don’t know why your parents even let you have internet access.
Tranny game
>the most boring game in the series
>simplified game mechanics for low-iq and low-skill newcomer toddlers
>weapon health and character progression wiped out so as not to scare away pride pronounce-in-bio "gamers"
>shooting part remains just as shitty as it was in 2008, very cool
>graphics is mid for 2014
>RPG game without RPG-mechanics
>reddit-tier dialogs and characters
>creative stagnation, same foes from previous games, 0 new interesting factions
Todd Howard just hit the spot actually, selling so much copies of this dogshit.
why are they like this
I honestly, really don't know anon.
They're like a parasitic organism that proclaims
>LOOK, I'VE COMPLETELY CONSUMED MY HOST
once the husk of whatever they've infiltrated is rotting... like their genitals.
Where to level up? Should I just do the brotherhood of steel things? It kind of fell apart for me after diamond city
I don't know what it is about New Vegas that draws trannies in, maybe it's the politics.
Why are you visiting trans blogs homosexual?
To gather information.
>prowls tranny blogs
>lurks on nexus forums
>saves tranny memes
>I-it’s all for information I swear
Yeah and the kids looking at medical diagrams of naked ladies in school are doing it for educational purposes.
So you aren't even bothering to defend your position , like you could, and are now resorting to insults to derail another thread you aregetting your ass handed to you.
You are predictable if nothing else.
This comment is just a culmination of all the things that have been said to you throughout the thread, it’s like the ultimate desperate “no u”.
You got me there anon.
Cope as you see fit. Crying about getting your ass handed to you yet again is all the reward I need.
I would posit that rather than conspiratorial rambling on the basis sexual anxieties, that the success of NV among niche communities is reflective of its general broad appeal and level of quality & staying power.
If they're in med school I certainly hope so.
>To gather information.
Obsessed.
I fucking love this thread.
This lmao, perfect way to enjoy my coffee
Never bc Ganker is a cesspit
Same for the most part just wish I didn't have to talk around seething trannies
Wish it was possible to have an actual discussion in these threads
Day of the rope when?
When poster IDs are implemented.
I went in after years of ignoring it in sale after sale and knowing all about the things wrong with it & I was surprised. It was very enjoyable slop till about level 20 ish or so by which time I started getting a little bored & by that time I was ready for Far Harbour which is one of the best things they've done. Well worth the £8 I spent on it.
I haven't played any of the DLC yet ngl, you should check out the mods if you haven't you can make the game much more enjoyable
>No choices
>No consequences
>No lovingly handplaced unique weapons
>Settlement-building shit that has no place in Fallout
>Awful faction writing only surpasses by 3
>Revolting SPECIAL and Perk system
>Themepark garbage like pirate robots and baseball city
>Game is so needy for your love it gives you power armor to kill a deathclaw
>Game is clearly meant to be played as the male soldier
Should I go on?
>>No choices
>>No consequences
I assume you refer to quest C&C, that shit doesn't matter. It's an illusion. Added sprinkles on the gameplay cupcake.
>>No lovingly handplaced unique weapons
But an excellent weapon and armor modding system.
-building shit that has no place in Fallout
Building settlements in the post apocalypse has no place in a post apocalyptic game? That's a fucking hot take there lad.
faction writing only surpasses by 3
>writing
who gives a shit?
SPECIAL and Perk system
New Vegas isn't much better. Out of all the perks maybe like 10 are really good, the rest are largely flavor or useless skill boosts.
If anything Fallout 4 perks are more impactful unironically.
garbage like pirate robots and baseball city
As opposed to cowboys and Romans in postapocalyptic Nevada?
>>Game is so needy for your love it gives you power armor to kill a deathclaw
Which is based and fun.
>>Game is clearly meant to be played as the male soldier
Why would you want to play as the female lawyer?
>Why would you want to play as the female lawyer?
I just find women more pleasing to look at plus I like seeing them with some curve with CBBE
I also like settlement building, idk why people write it off instead of giving it a fair chance
>I just find women more pleasing to look at plus I like seeing them with some curve with CBBE
gay
I mean I do fuck guys lmao
Bruh
I'll preface this by saying I genuinely enjoy both games and I have only slightly more hours in FNV.
what F4 does better
>ballistic weapons
>nuclear weapons
>weapon mods
>power armor (wish it required a perk to use or something and fuck the fuel system but at least it has durability)
>companions
>graphics (kind of cheating)
>mods
>ambient music
>settlements, fuck you i like them
what FNV does better
>melee and unarmed by a LOT
>energy weapons
>heavy weapons
>explosive weapons
>skills existing
>more interesting unique perks that aren't just replacements for skills
>build variety
>writing (wrapping dialogue, story and worldbuilding into one since it's better at all)
>armor
>repair requirements existing
>non-scaling enemies
>gore
>enemy variety
>factions worth giving a fuck about
>actions have consequences outside the main story (and are more impactful within it)
>unique weapons
>DLCs
>BoS
>super mutants
>deathclaws
tied with good points on both sides
>radio
>rewarding exploration
>ability to go wherever whenever and do things out of order (slightly stronger in FNV but very possible in F4)
There's more to all of these categories but it's been about a year since I played 4 and months since I last played FNV. I might go back to FNV now though, I've been considering a heavily modded playthrough for a while now since I mostly just play vanilla with a couple fixes and graphical improvements.
Actually fair points.
Nice effort post anon.
New Vegas mods are fairly limiting I tried a heavy modded playthrough and just couldn't bring myself to finish even a portion of what I added, overall not an enjoyable experience
The modding scene for 4 is light-years richer imo
>ambient music
does it? I don't dislike Inon Zur in particular but his works under Bethesda direction really pale in comparison to the OG Fallout soundtrack
mind you the F4 soundtrack is nowhere as bad as the F3 one
There's some good ones
and
really stand out to me. I'm just comparing them to the tracks in FNV though. Nothing is ever going to beat some of the tracks in Fallout 1
Fallout 2 is the best.
its absolute fucking dogshit
Preordered after how good skyrim was and couldnt play it for more than 30hours thats how shit it was
>minigun is shit
>quest are shit
>writing is full schizo
>trash collecting is a gameplay focus
>all guns look like shit
fuck off its so fucking shit
So this is the new focus of starslop tranny propoganda?
Blow me vegastranny.
go play starslop tranny
So, all i need to do is follow STEP guide for a ready to use Fo4 gameplay?
you need to take hrt sister
I am not playing Fallout: New Vegas or KOTOR2, you projecting piece of shit with mutilated genitals.
I usually use the Lost World pack and alter from there to my liking, comes with a shitton of gun replacers and animation enhancements it can be a little jank at times however
All i want is a Fo4 mod pack that is completely stuck on the cold war gear as the damn game's army, minutemen and BoS outfits themselves are
For those who don't know, all of BoS gear is based on the soviet ones from the afghan war
WATXT
COD fags are a menace
I like 3 the best personally, but 4 was pretty good too. Both better than New Vegas for sure.
>I'm tired of pretending like it's not.
kys, reddit homosexual