it's time to fork out my schmeckles again

it's time to fork out my schmeckles again

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do Americans not return them?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The inhuman ones do. We also don't have to pay a deposit to unlock them

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pay a deposit
        around 10 years ago in sweden you paid with either 5sek or 10sek which was about 60 cents or 1 dollar and 20 cents respectively. You also got the coin back when you put the cart back where it's supposed to be

        Nowadays I never use them but there are things like pic related that stores give away for free if you ask for one

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ALDI is the only place that does that here (Southeast US), it sometimes generates this cute nothing interaction on your way in where a guy will offer you his cart since he already put a quarter in it. The store itself is very randomly stocked so it doesn't make for a good general grocery spot, but I check the weekly deals and swing by when they have something interesting. The line's often fuck-long though since they don't have a self checkout and only have 2 employees out on the floor at a time

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pay a deposit
        around 10 years ago in sweden you paid with either 5sek or 10sek which was about 60 cents or 1 dollar and 20 cents respectively. You also got the coin back when you put the cart back where it's supposed to be

        Nowadays I never use them but there are things like pic related that stores give away for free if you ask for one

        It's wild to me that there are countries where people still carry around cash and coins.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As someone that lives in EU, why in the everloving fuck would you want one of the more decentralized forms of currency to be gone?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >decentralized
            >every note is printed by the ECB, countries of the eurozone can only issue coins and they must be authorised by the ECB.

            that's like the complete opposite of "decentralized".

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              decentralized as in "not every transaction is in some giant database" like the soon-to-come "digital euro".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm glad that the "digital pound" idea seems to have been a knee-jerk reaction to the crypto boom and basically disappeared once the government realised that the existing currency already works flawlessly in the modern digital economy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There was a period where places sold Pound Coin keyrings
          They were the same shape as a pound coin with a hole in one end and a keyring loop, the idea being you'd take it off your keys to unlock a trolly

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why yes, I am israeli, how did you know

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do Americans not return them?

        https://i.imgur.com/8FsemHq.jpg

        it's time to fork out my schmeckles again

        I live in the UK now and I see trolleys all over the supermarket car park. Very shameful

        Ah yes, keep licking that corporate boot you fucking cartnaggots.
        Shopping trolley is a service they provided to me, as a customer, in return for the money I spent in their premise.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who leaves a trolley in a parking space especially needs to be tied up, dragged along the ground and shot.

        >We also don't have to pay a deposit to unlock them
        The point of those is to return them you can get the coin back (how do some still not know this?). It should be the norm everywhere. Our supermarkets have both paid and unpaid carts, but I still use a regular trolley since I actually put the cunt back.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only naggers don't

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based

        cringe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only suburban ones dont

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dont return them so that I can create jobs for carts wagies

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. I'm torn because returning the carts is the White thing to do, but I know those wagies wanna get out of the cage and get some fresh air and leaving the cart in the grass facilitates that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Just leave it slightly off the side to the cart return, they've got an excuse they can say "oh boss that cart's a bit away."

          [...]
          [...]
          former wagie here
          getting sent out to collect carts over a 3 story parking deck was the most fun part of my day, mostly because I felt actually free and detached from the cameras and superiors.

          Why are you all talking like returning a cart to the cart return in the parking lot is the same as taking them back inside the store?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. I'm torn because returning the carts is the White thing to do, but I know those wagies wanna get out of the cage and get some fresh air and leaving the cart in the grass facilitates that.

        Just leave it slightly off the side to the cart return, they've got an excuse they can say "oh boss that cart's a bit away."

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. I'm torn because returning the carts is the White thing to do, but I know those wagies wanna get out of the cage and get some fresh air and leaving the cart in the grass facilitates that.

        [...]
        Just leave it slightly off the side to the cart return, they've got an excuse they can say "oh boss that cart's a bit away."

        former wagie here
        getting sent out to collect carts over a 3 story parking deck was the most fun part of my day, mostly because I felt actually free and detached from the cameras and superiors.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can confirm, going outside to collect the carts and get a breath of fresh air was great.

          As a consumer I always put the cart back, but now Ive changed my mind. gonna do this

          [...]
          Just leave it slightly off the side to the cart return, they've got an excuse they can say "oh boss that cart's a bit away."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymou

          I remember the kid wagies that collected the carts having fun and playing with them. I'm not returning them to their place

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >having fun
            how dare they.
            should be executed by corporate death squads

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          same. collected carts for like 2 years. had lots of fun. smoked lots of weed. leave the carts assholes, I got it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >stop bagging groceries
          >stop even having bags
          Yeah fuck them, they can get their own carts.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The wagies didn't decide that dipshit. Fucking dead of winter iq.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tbh I don't really mind having less garbage to deal with

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can confirm, going outside to collect the carts and get a breath of fresh air was great.

          As a consumer I always put the cart back, but now Ive changed my mind. gonna do this[...]

          >trolleyfags were actually the evil ones the whole time
          classic JRPG twist right there

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I live in the UK now and I see trolleys all over the supermarket car park. Very shameful

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I at least push it out of parking. Its the wagies problem not mine

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always grab a cart that's out in the parking lot and then when I'm done shopping I leave it inside at the entrance near the other carts and just carry all my bags to my car by hand. That way I don't have to annoyingly double back to return my cart and I reduce the clutter in the parking lot at the same time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the way. I just grab one on my way in, then get a handbasket(or two if it's a big trip) and plan my route produce > meat > dry goods > dairy in one big loop around the store. Fuck navigating a cart through the aisles, I'm in and out in 20 minutes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not just american's
      >canadian and people will bring carts all the way back to the house just to leave it by the side of the road
      >will literally bring 4-5 carts before they stop
      i feel sorry for the people who have to come pick this garbage up man, it's not even old people, just fat lazy fucks who don't want to carry their groceries

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's only in the poor/bad neightborhoods.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          im in a poor/retiree/tourist trap town
          the only money they put in here is for downtown to become more like a big city, with all the homeless drug addicts included
          >they just spent 10 million dollars or something on a bike lane NO ONE WANTED ruining tons of parking and generally making the town awful to travel through with cars
          >mayor doesn't even fucking live in this town and pushed for this garbage that no one is actually using
          what a joke

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Banff?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no, sucks that it's happening to other places as well, the small towns just weren't developed to have bike lanes, the roads are too small and now they took an entire side of the road from downtown that businesses that are already bleeding customers now have to deal with

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The issue with a lot of parking shit is and has always been parking mandates. The amount of wasted space on parking is insane, for shit that will never be full and only exists to make shit harder for non-car traffic and makes land significantly more expensive by making usable land come with unusable forced parking space

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To their fucking HOUSE?!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          REAL, SAVAGES I KNOW

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As someone who used to live in a "low-income neighborhood" it is true.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm from Uruguay, I can remember clearly back in the 90s people would take the carts home and then bring them back, these kind of trust behaviors have been completely lost

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no fucking wonder I've seen supermarkets testing gps-located trolleys that get brakelock'd if they get outside the shop perimeter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always return them. Dad gives me shit and tells me to just leave it there. Why the fuck would I leave it in the middle of the parking lot?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do subhumans not return them
      No, they don't. Would people in a civilized country do something? Then amerimutts will not out of contempt for a functional society.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        im an american and i return the cart every time
        i even return abandoned carts if they're close enough

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're among the best of us and will be spared.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I do this too. Someone actually gave me a weird look for doing this the other day! :/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >third worlder or europoor makes up imaginary scenarios just to whine about Americans
        Typical.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pic
        No, it's not "the right thing to do", it's the only reasonable thing to do if you have a functioning brain. If you don't do it or you steal the fucking thing, and you expect others to follow suit, then the inevitably rising cost of shopper logistics at that location puts strain on the owner which translates to higher prices / fewer sales and shittier hauling options for you. YOU INCONVENIENCE YOURSELF IN THE FUTURE BY BEING AN IMPATIENT RETARD IN THE PRESENT. PUT IT FUCKING BACK.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not putting back a cart will noticeably increase prices due to "inconvenience"
          lolberts are just political narcists that get by on copium and delusions of grandeur.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thats only true under the assumption that others also cheat the system (which they do not)
          it is rational to cheat if it does not lead to others cheating the system

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If I have to use self check out I won't return the cart. I will if an employee checks me out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of us do. What really vexes me is when I see them in empty parking spots, sometimes just a couple of spots away from the place you're supposed to put them.
      I almost always see a few stray ones when I'm on my way into the store if I'm shopping after nightfall. Doesn't seem to happen as often while the sun is up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because the cart lads are running around collecting them during the day

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      depends on which point they are on the melanin scale

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Had some euro complain about americans having corrals to push the carts into. Do euros really not have a place for the carts?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Clayton Grady

        that's a trolley bay bra

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So they were retarded third worlders, got it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we have those in europe or at least where I live

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair it was a swede who I think was just looking for any excuse to argue. When they exhausted complaining about the existence of corrals, they moved to complaining about employees being paid to move the carts from the corral to inside the store. Sure it's silly to have a corral if it's a small store but if the parking lot is big enough to warrant a corral, I'm using it and they can cry about it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like some kind of autist, Sweden has them too.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >invent cart corral so that it's actually pretty convenient to return the cart
        >naggers still leave their carts out

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm still hesistant to blame all the shit writing on just Danuser. With everything we know if Blizzard they seem to be simply a dysfunctional mess that never put any focus on writing. Pretty much the only thing that gets consistent praise on wow's lore is the books, which come out after everything is said and done and basically explain the random shit that made it into the game. The story itself seems to structured entirely around big cinematics and delivering raid bosses.
        With SL they wanted to expand the setting to stock up on raid bosses for the next few years, because for some fucking reason they thought old gods were only good enough for a patch. It seems really content driven, someone comes up with the new zone and the writers wrangle us through them. That's why we never revisit stuff stuff like the scarlets or the defias, who could balance out the constant god slaying we do now.
        I don't think any writer could deliver a truly good story in that environment.

        Ours all have roofs, but not those bends in the lanes. What do Americans do when it rains or snows, or is that pic from one of the warm states?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ours all have roofs
          So do ours. That's what those fucking vertical poles are connected to.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People who don't put their shopping carts where they belong are parasites who live off the backs of others.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker posters don't

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Canadian wagie here. Canadians are fucking retards when it comes to returning carts to the point they just dump in on the fucking roads. Doubly worse when its snowing. Indians are the worst

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the wage slaves treat me with courtesy and the due decency afforded to, and deserved by, all children of God, then I will return the shopping cart to its corral or designated staging area. If they offend me, then I shall toss the cart in the ditch and their compatriots may venture forth to retrieve it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Clayton Grady

        turn the other cheek bitchboy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. seething wagie larping as a rich person

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Rosseau

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I put them back inside instead of the cart return so someone can use it again immediately. Or just give it to someone passing me by if it's empty and they need one.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here in some stores you have to put a coin in if you want to unlock the cart. Only in some stores though. Ikea lets you take them freely, I always return them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Clayton Grady

      they stopped doing that here because people kept jamming the coinslot with gum

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait a minute
    That pose

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If this was a hint that he was going down this path, that’d be pretty rad. But its more likely they didn’t pay attention

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's probably more like they were trying to remind you that Arthas was inside him.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are an absolutely gigantic spastic if you think they perfectly recreated that pose without realising

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      damn nigga are you slow or something?
      this entire cinematic is just Christ Metzen talking to the WoW players who quit while pulling at the heartstrings with nostalgia.
      The "visions" are so similar to XIV's "hear, feel, think" because that's what they're meant to represent.
      Watch it again with that in mind, it's blatantly obvious and I'm surprised so many people couldn't catch it the first time.

      It feels very cynical and manipulative, while at the same time incorporating all the stupid Danuser bullshit that ruined the vibe in the first place.
      The feature teaser is actually a better cinematic, and much more exciting and promising. I'm not going back though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      arthas invented pointing your sword

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >posts an example of somebody pointing their sword in a different manner than the original examples

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only the realest give it that south side slide

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >arthas invented pointing your sword
        He was that cool of a guy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a fun batshit theory that Anduin is actually Arthas' son and is mirroring his path. Hell, when Uther sees Anduin in the Shadowlands, he mistakes him for Arthas for a second.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i know its just lorefag cope but royal adoptions arn't too unheard of so it would make sense that Varian would adopt his friends son after the entire Menethil family line and Lordaeron Kingdom was destroyed

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"witness the True Power of Frostmourne!"
    >leaves cart on very slight incline and walks away

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trolleys are large public vehicles on tracks, how and why would I "return" one? This makes no sense.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you retard, thats a Tram

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trolleys are a type of tram that are powered by an overhead trolley wire.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fuck is a trolley?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Clayton Grady

    oi alright surely you can do better

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Retarded fucking overdesigned bullshit just look at that fucking sword how the fuck do people like Bli**ard

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In wealthier neighbourhoods people return them because they have cars. Poor people don't have cars and can't carry $200 dollars worth of stuff, so they steal the trolleys.

    Still fucking hate them tho.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can fucking smell the rotting vagina smell that practically permeated out from this trailer

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Chad Hope Enjoyer vs the JUSTed Despair wallower.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry western chuds, you can't have shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you imagine what happens if it was Anduin who got mindjacked by Zenos instead of WoL? We would've spent the rest of Endwalker story having the scions tried to calm down a distressed homosexual as if he was a fucking rape victim

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post the unedited version, anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Derplander looks so much better it's unreal. So we can't have handsome men anymore as well after the beautiful women are gone from western games?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, Anduin has literally spent the last five in-game years living as a hobo.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He looks like he did crack as well

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Varian's ghost is haunting him, trying to toughen him up by sending him on a journey of becoming grizzled, getting amnesia, becoming a gladiator, fucking a hot barely legal elf, then returning to Stormwind to mating press Jaina and assume the throne.
            They were stuck at the 'get amnesia' part.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want to smother my face in Meteor's pec cleavage.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yo drop the template, this has Ganker potential

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      spat my coffee, good one

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >leftoid character made to express exactly this
      Quite the script flip

    • 4 weeks ago
      Clayton Grady

      surely there's a better quality one out there but lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying we weren't already the 2023 panel in 2013
      >ISHYGDDT was 2011

      I've been here too goddamn long.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why the fuck did they make Anduin so fucking ugly? He looks like Luke Skywalker in the nuWars trilogy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        YKW

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        old Luke looked pretty cool in TFA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's been crying for 10 years at least.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wow bros they're two sad guys talking about their feelings... I DO THAT NOW. it's like... like they grew with me...
    it's so deep...

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has Anduin had sex yet?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He spent like 5 years living with Draenei.
      His ass hole is a size of an coke bottle

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yo drop the template, this has Ganker potential

      Imagine living in the living hell that is warcraft's Azeroth and also getting zero pussy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i don't have to imagine it plus we have Assumi, we good

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the context of Thrall and Anduin's conversation? I haven't played any post-Wrath expansion

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's probably some platitudes about how things suck and there's hints of some ancient evil that will force them to cooperate even though both of them or one of them feels reluctant and useless.

      I haven't ingested any nu-WoW lore since the beginning of BFA.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anduin got mindraped by Thanos and is now sad that he kind of liked being a dickhead, Thrall tells him it's ok because shit's popping off once again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the Sneedolands expansion Anduin gets mindcontrolled and mindraped by THE JAILER (the super smart super mastermind behind LITERALLY every single warcraft event planned down to the second) to be a bad guy, and also partially possessed by Arthas (?)
      At the end of Shadowlands he's too upset about that (and also the other stuff that happened like his dad getting killed by Gul'dan and the BFA war) so he fucks off to cry into his pillow about how shitty his life is.
      The cutscene for the new expansion is about how all the lore characters are getting visions of "something" in the planet crying for help, and Thrall shows up to tell Anduin that he can cry into his pillow at night while he's doing his fucking job

    • 4 weeks ago
      Clayton Grady

      Anduin's daddy issues manifest in him putting himself in time-out and hiding from his need for Thrall to be his life pardner

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its in the newest trailer
      TL;DR:
      >Anduin lost the light after the events of shadowlands (he was basically mind controlled to do bad shit)
      >anduin gets really emo and depressed and jaded because of it
      >azeroth's voice starts harping on about some threat yet again
      >everyone can hear it this time not just magni
      >anduin don't give a fuck because he's emo now
      >thrall comes to tell him hes still got good in him and he trusts him, the leader of an enemy people and enemy alliance, to do what's right
      >anduin tears up because he can't deny that he's still a paladin deep down, whether he has the light anymore or not

      and also some foreshadowing with anduin striking the same pose as the lich king with the sword. they'll probably 'corrupt' him again since you're not allowed to have a virtuous and good straight white male character in 2023

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        don't give a fuck because he's emo now
        The whole point is that he does care but he doesn't feel strong enough to help or worthy enough to ask for help.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah Anduin is the writers insert for what a white male should be, soft, effeminate, weak, and "in touch with his feelings". Golden, one of their main writers, even wrote once that she considers Anduin the prime and best example of "non toxic masculinity" in other words Anduin is the idealized version of a male to these Californians sick and twisted minds.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Golden is the female equivalent of a poop socker. Metzen hired her because she could make his non-characters seem more life like through conversation, something WoW Forum homosexuals sucked her off over way back in 2010 because Richard Knaak is the opposite of her writing wise.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WoW story and cinematics have always been garbage.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    savage shit holes not allowing lose currently and only paperless if the last step for complete control

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trouble with the trolley, eh?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even as shitty as BFA was, there was still this prevailing cope that it was simply a really shitty chapter in WoW's story, and things would improve once that story arc was completed. By DF, nobody at all cares about what's happening because the damage has been done.
    What do you think was the breaking point, where the copers just became jaded and accepted that WoW was slop for good?
    >When it was revealed the Sylvanas Show was not going to end by the end of BFA
    >Shadowlands opening cinematic where Sylvanas solos Icecrown Citadel
    >Reveal that all of Legion was part of THE JAILER'S MASTER PLAN up to and including the sword stabbing the planet but not actually getting far enough into kill it
    >I WILL NEVER SERVE
    This is an underrated one, but when the storyline to Bastion on release was that all Bastion angels are mindwiped and brainwashed entities made out of normal people's dead souls, the dead souls rebelled because that's really fucked up and they didn't get to choose that fate, and the writers made out the rebels to somehow be the bad guys in that scenario. That might have been it. It's so delusional, and so horribly written, that it made me realize how these writers inhumanly incompetent.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cataclysm

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        people still gave a shit about wow during pandas, WoD, and Legion, so wrong answer
        >b-b-but I stopped playing then...so that's when it turned to shit!!
        have a nice day, retard
        unlike you, I actually played both before and after the massive demoralization of the WoW playerbase. Those are the people I'm asking, not homosexuals who didn't play at the relevant time but want to still feel like anyone cares about their shit opinions

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cataclysm is OBJECTIVELY when subs started to decline, never to recover. So it is OBJECTIVELY the beginning of the end.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wrath is when the subs stopped increasing. That was the beginning of the end.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not true, subs hit a cap in Wrath and then started going down a bit with the patches leading up to cataclysm
              notably, Dungeon Finder was prep for Cataclysm

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Hit a cap
              Yes, also known as when the subs stopped increasing. The only thing that kep people from unsubbing was beating the most iconic villain in the franchise. When they were done with Arthas, there was nothing keeping them from dropping the expansion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shadowlands irreversibly broke Warcraft lore, the entire universe has no sense of mystery or consequences any longer and every souls ultimate fate is to be judged by a tranny arbiter and sent to one of the four forms of hell that are the afterlife. You really can't salvage the universe after something like that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WoWs world never had a mystery retard. You could talk to ghosts since vanilla
        Nobody ever thought to ask about the afterlife

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this. it rewrote everything and made it seem awful. DF is just moving on and ignoring it which is in itself the best path forward.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shadowlands. It was just so unbelievably boring. BfA at least had faction conflict in the beginning.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably J'Lor.
      People hate World of Syvlanascraft but it wasn't just Danuser forcing her into the spotlight because she's his waifu.
      After Cataclysm a good amount of the worst spergs playing the game wanted Sylvanas dead because Blizzard overdid the Forsaken campaign resulting in a lot of territory loss and "war crimes" against the Alliance. Blizzard threw them Garrosh in MOP but nobody actually hated Garrosh and it was a poor compensation.

      Blizzard ignored this for two expansions but players demanded retribution and attacked the writing claiming Sylvanas as the most evil character in the lore aside from Arthas.
      A lot of the dumb ideas posted in the forums, like Calia Menethil (Who was missing in the lore at the time of cata) returning to unite the Forsaken after a revolution, Lilian Voss also being suggested, ended up coming true.

      So either those same players ended up joining the writing team, or blizzard interpreted the obsession with Sylvanas as something the players wanted.

      I grantee that to some, BFA was a build up to their long awaited killing of Sylvanas espescially with the world tree burning event. Like that alone probably signaled to them that Sylvanas would be killed in a raid.

      For this reason, I think that WoSC wasn't the breaking point, the real breaking point was SLs because of how ham fisted the writing team attempted to usurp the entire fucking lore into a new setting.
      Never before has there been a bigger nonsensical shake up of the setting. Every expansion has one, even Legion with its Argus Paradox, but nothing beats J'lor's nonsense plan enveloping all of WC lore.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this tbh

        story wise, during bfa people were mostly annoyed with how little actual faction war we got and how rushed the whole old god thing was, aside from the fixation on sylvanas, night elves being scuffed etc

        but it didn't really do any lasting damage to anything lorewise, the general outline was fine

        shadowlands is when things really flew off the rails with the whole jailer business

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My favorite thing about the Syvlanascraft downward spiral is someone clearly knew that 90% of "Sylvanas isn't bad, muh dark lady, you can't replace her" shit was due to coomers.

          So when they were prepping Calia to be the new leader, they turned her into a pale thicc undead mommy to be like "Here's your new dark lady, coomers".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Coomer here, I always knew Sylvanas was bad from the start, but I still thought she shouldn't have been replaced, and they CERTAINLY shouldn't have butchered her character with the whole J'lorr tie-in bullshit.
            Also, Calia fucking sucks. Lightforged undead is such a retarded concept and she's just a generic "uwu gentle femdom mommy" character that I can't take her seriously. At least Sylvanas had depth and character alongside her stacked tits before shit started going downhill once she became Warchief.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sylvanas had the depth of a film of water left after wiping a table with a damp cloth. Everything about her was "I'm angry and stupid and later evil, fuck everything and everyone".

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sylvanas was butchered in the suicide attempt story after WotLK. Before that, muh dark lady fags were justified.

              I just think it was a funny attempt by blizzard to replace Sylvanas because it acknowledge a major reason people liked her.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sylvanas story should have been over after Arthas’ death.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shadowlands.
      DF can at least be written off as a quaint filler episode. BFA managed to have SOME decent parts, few as they were. Shadowlands completely and utterly devestated the setting.
      The fact that TWW is basically ignoring 99% of what happened in the past three expansions shows how much they want to get past Shadowlands.
      Also going off your point, I believe SL originally had a very different story. The Jailer wanting to remake all reality begins to make a lot of sense when you notice that every single major Afterlife is a complete fucking shitshow that's being terribly mismanaged by retarded robots half of whom can't think for themselves enough to realize "Hey something's wrong with the system, maybe we should fix it" even when evidence is directly shoved into their faces. When writers realized J'lor was vague enough to have a bit of a point they instantly did a turnabout and made him a shitty moustache twirler.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's kinda frustrating because you very easily could've made the shadowlands story kinda work by just making the jailer spartacus in the afterlife

        >guys running the afterlife are assholes (see: denathrius and everything about bastion)
        >jailer (rightfully) thinks the system sucks and having a gigahell with no escape is awful and makes no sense
        >leads a rebellion of all the lost souls of the maw
        >ends up going too far and has to be put down
        >covenants learn their lesson and try to improve things now

        why they had to recontextualize the entire lore is beyond me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because they were intent on pushing sylvanas's woke mary sue bullshit over all else

          never hire a female or californian writer

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you have to go back

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The entire expansion existed because Danuser and Golden wanted to shit on the Chronicle books and the previous writers. There's even an excerpt in one of Danuser's 'lore books' about SL where one of the shitty not-Ethereals gets shown the cosmology chart from the Chronicle and says it's stupid and wrong and that he has the 'actually correct' version (which naturally focuses on Death).
          Dragonflight was supposed to be about how the Titans were actually totally evil and the BLACK EMPIRE was secretly a profound and advanced civilization. Pretty sure Metzen came back halfway through and told the writers to cut their stupid shit and end the expansion early, given the state of DF.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, the dragonflight story so far has been the most shallow excuse to make any sort of mmo gameplay happen and nothing else

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There's also the rheory that was going around that DF was a scrapped mobile project originally designed to sell to China, but got repurposed when things went sour over there.
              At this point it's just complete and utter filler, which somehow is still better than Shadowlands.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. The Chronicles basically had it so that Dark and Light were like Padamay and Anu, overlaping and creating the twisting nether which begot reality.

            This works mainly because Light and Void aren't really explained as anything except two contradictory forces, with a few vague implications that light is "truth" and void is "potential" or some shit. It doesn't matter really, its just two cool classic fantasy forces slamming against each other.

            Danuser went and said "these two things are just uhh other spheres. He basically made the Shadowlands a source code dimension for reality, created by SUPER TITANS who made the other forces.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Danuser went and said "these two things are just uhh other spheres. He basically made the Shadowlands a source code dimension for reality, created by SUPER TITANS who made the other forces.
              Got it a little backwards with the spheres. Originally Light and Void were just two of the six major spheres which all were semi-balanced, they were just the first two. In the 'new' version Death and Life are notably larger than the others, and there's also some stupid as fuck 'great cycle' shit in the middle.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No I didn't, the old image had them placed evenly on that map, but the lore that reality was between them was still established.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why was he even allowed to do that so shortly after the Chronicles were released? I mean there must have been other explanations for Elune etc.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the Chronicle was done by writers who were on the way out. It was specifically designed to be a capstone for lore writing that solidified WoW's pre-history. To make something that could be worked off of and utilized.
                When those writers left, Danuser took over, and the only thing Danuser loves is Sylvanas.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I still can't get over the decision to make these guys the ultimate big bads of the WC universe, creators of the Old Gods even.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The fact that TWW is basically ignoring 99% of what happened in the past three expansions shows how much they want to get past Shadowlands.
        It's not doing that at all you lorelet retard
        BfA freed Xalatath from the blade
        Shadowlands gave Anduin his PTSD
        Dragonflight Xalatath returned to take power from Galakrond
        All of them feed directly into TWW. Even moreso if Azshara or Iridikron show up

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, all but one of those things were just minor side-plots to those expansions.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes that's how breadcrumbs work
            Jailers mindfucking Anduin is literally the reveal trailer for the new one, they aren't trying to ignore the expac at all

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know what people expect, Metzen saying "It was all just a dream"? Even WoD gets referenced.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guarantee Metzen had something to do with Shadowlands. The whole shitty story has his milky prints all over it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have a theory that the rough outline of shadowlands was written by him. They say they had a big list of potential expansion ideas to go off of since TBC.

                I believe the idea that the Scourge had an alternate origin was created in this time. Why? Because the scourge link to the legion was pretty half ass. The scourge didn't FEEL like a legion tool.
                There was an apparent clashing between what Blizzard wanted the scourge to be an how it was incorporated into the story.
                By Wotlk they were gutting all of that shit (I.E Discarding Ner'zhul) aside from Mal'Ganis trying to get revenge on Arthas. With the complete scourge redesign, you could tell Metzen was thinking "The scourge is something old, something distinct".

                Hell the "there must always be a LK" bullshit cemented it. Rather than having the scourge be this bio weapon set up by the legion using a famous orc pawn as a conduit, they wanted the scourge to be ancient evil tomb kangz. The LK was no longer this weird magical creation, he was a title. To an outsider who knew nothing about the lore you would think there would be some sort of shit like "the LK line started when the death god was defeated by the life god but he kept coming back" or some other Sauron-esque origin.

                So yeah, I fully believe there were some ancient evil bullshit involving a death god that was meant to distance the scourge from the legion.
                It probably wasn't that MCU Thanos shit we got, but the outline was probably there.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Jailers mindfucking Anduin is literally the reveal trailer for the new one
              Something interesting about that, Anduin's appearance in the flashback in the trailer isn't how he was in SL, it's showing his older look.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anduin was in prison for a while in shadowlands
                I assume he became less prince charming during it but they just didn't update his model

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cataclysm, WoD, BFA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thrall cowardly murdering the warchief.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Clayton Grady
  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Optimal for 95% of my shopping trips.
    >They are never available.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >getting a cuck cart

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop derailing the cart thread.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Darkshore.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    twink death is so fvcking cruel. rip duder, you now ugly as a motherfucker.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Clayton Grady

      twinks deserve to hit the wall like the women they worship

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >namefag eager to jump in on the gay sex talk
        poesies

        • 4 weeks ago
          Clayton Grady

          you involved yourself also bra

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        twink death is so fvcking cruel. rip duder, you now ugly as a motherfucker.

        These time skips aren't exactly good for the writing. All the classic characters will get geriatric at this point except elves and dwarves.

        I mean like Jaina would be fucking 45 at this point?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea, 45 in TWW assuming there's not ANOTHER timeskip. Even older if there's another one.
          But they're really doing it so they can start thrusting Dagran into the story and make Anduin be some late 20's/early 30's believable leader.

          If there ever is a WoW2 you can best believe it's gonna be a huge several hundred year timeskip with a bunch of new characters alongside the elves, Turalyon, and maybe Calia.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's gonna be a huge several hundred year timeskip
            because that worked out so well for Guild Wars

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Blizzard's writers are stupider than Arenanet's.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's a strong competition

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, is that a wrath reference?
    Blizzard never brings that up every occasion
    Something BIG is cooking!

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Clayton Grady
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lost

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is still the only good thing to be put into WoW for the last several years.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's still technically female.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Incubus, Succubus in an Incubus body, long as the form is 100% male.

        Lor'themar and Thalyssra getting married was kinda neat.

        That as well, Lor'themor deserved it and Thal is a cute sexy wife.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lor'themar and Thalyssra getting married was kinda neat.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Clayton Grady
  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know most of you are unsubbed and don't follow WoW, but I want to tell you a neat revolting fact about the new raid.
    The final boss' aggro voice line is THE SUNDERED FLAME WILL NEVER SERVE!
    So this fucking naggerhomosexual Danuser is not only unrepentant about Sylvanas' I WILL NEVER SERVE cutscene, aka the moment WoW died, he liked is so much he reused it almost verbatim for an unrelated major character
    Blizzard is so creatively bankrupt it's sickening. Everyone involved with writing wow needs to be fired and blacklisted

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This patch is Danuser's last stillborn 'baby'. Metzen's already stripped his rank.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >our face when metzen saved wow

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw metzen saved wow

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a more cucked race than Night Elves.
    You literally can't.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trolls

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trolls own NElf lands now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trolls own NElf lands now.

        but anon, night elves and trolls are the same race

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DON'T YE BE COMPARIN' US TA DEM TREE-HUMPAS, MON

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            YOU'RE THE SAME PEOPLE DEAL WITH IT TROLLFAG
            IF I CANT SAY THAT BLACKS ARE A DIFFERENT RACE THEN YOU CANT SAY NIGHT ELVES ARE EITHER

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              YE DON BE UNDERSTANDIN' MON
              DEIR WOMEN BE SUCKIN' CAT MOJO ERRY NIGHT
              DEIR MEN BE SCREWIN' BEARS
              DAT SHIT'S DISGOSTIN', MON

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who even cares about the “lore”anymore? This shit could be changed next week, they don’t care about their own franchise

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that if it it was about money, they'd just cater to whites (and east asians).

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Clayton Grady

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