>Empoleon
Water/Ice Technician (swap SpA and Atk. Swap SpD and Speed)
>Thyplosion
Fire/Psychic
Huge Power
Add Earth power and Energy ball
Lower Atk by 20, add 10 to SpA and 10 to Def.
Effective 122 Atk and 119 SpA to run either special or Physical sets.
Sceptile
Grass/Rock (regional or ancient varian)
Sharpness
Swap physical and special stats
Aqua cutter/Night slash/Sacred sword and Accelerock added to movepool.
>Swampert
Swap Damp for No Guard
>Blaizeken
Add Mach punch
>Meganium
Grass/Rock (dinosaur type)
Regenerator
>Skip Unovabortions
>Delphox
Prankster >Chestnaught
Grass/Steel >Greninja
Technician
Swap offensive stats
Water shuriken back to being Physical
Now for regional birds. >Pidgeot
+20 SpA +10 Speed
No Guard instead of Keen Eye >Fearow
3rd stage evo Ground/Flying with Simple/Sniper
+15 Atk +10 Def +10 SpD +23 Speed >Noctowl
3rd stage evo Psychic/Flying
Magic Bounce/No Guard/Tinted lens
+10 Hp +30 Def +18SpA
>Talonflame
+20Atk
Add Jump kick to movepool
Gale wings now works at 30% or more Hp instead of only full health.
>Squakabilly
Different formes get new types/Abilities/Moves >Green
Grass/Flying Technician
Gets Bullet seed >Yellow
Electric/Flying
Tough claws
Gets Spark/Wild charge >Blue
Water/Flying
Sheer Force
Gets Aqua Jet/Liquidation >Grey
Rock/Flying
Pranskter
Stealth rock/Accelerock/Rock slide
Nah to make use of its physical moveset.
Morever i said to remove 20 points from Atk to move them elswhere for a reason.
Huge power/Pure power don't belong on anything with more than 70Atk.
Trying to pin a label of underrated on something is literally what you do when you're not ahead in design appeal to begin with
You're outright contradicting yourself >Sinnoh has the best designs >No wait it has underrated designs
>You're outright contradicting yourself
has the best designs >>No wait it has underrated designs
I don't think you know what the words you're using mean
If Sinnoh had the best designs they wouldn't be underrated, it's pretty clear English
Maybe you don't know the words you're using, since 'best designs' is a matter of opinion and you're already admitting the opinion is not in your favor by claiming they're underrated
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
ESL
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I guess that makes you a high school dropout since you can't even properly identify ESL
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>n-no you!
Classic brainlet response
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Says the guy that improperly defaults to ESL ad hominem because he can't even understand English himself
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ad hominem
Use english, ESL
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Holy kek, thanks for the confirmation of
I guess that makes you a high school dropout since you can't even properly identify ESL
, concession accepted
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Go back to Mexico, immigrant
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All you're accomplishing is making Sinnohfags look lower and lower IQ the more you stretch it out, so by all means get it all out
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We all know latinx hate every single gens other than Gen 9, and Serena
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's good to know, what else?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Mexico need to be nuked to kingdom come
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cool, what else?
>If Sinnoh had the best designs they wouldn't be underrated
Underrated implies it deserves to be rated higher >'best designs' is a matter of opinion
Opinions of the people with good tastes, not the masses
>Underrated implies it deserves to be rated higher
No shit >Opinions of the people with good tastes, not the masses >>good tastes
Kek that's a useless metric since it's just an opinion over an opinion
There's a reason marketing works by the masses
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Anonymous
>There's a reason marketing works by the masses
Because the masses have the money, obviously
I said best designs not most lucrative ones
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's why I said it's fucking desperate >I said designs *I LIKE* appeal to *MY* opinion of what's best!
It's like if a trans furry necrophile was crying they didn't pick the best designs to shill according to him nobody gives a shit about 'best' according to him.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
My opinions matter more than yours because they are superior, it's only natural anon.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If Sinnoh had the best designs they wouldn't be underrated
Underrated implies it deserves to be rated higher >'best designs' is a matter of opinion
Opinions of the people with good tastes, not the masses
>You're outright contradicting yourself
has the best designs >>No wait it has underrated designs
I don't think you know what the words you're using mean
Underutilized mons for each gen >poliwhirl/jigglypuff >pichu >sceptile >piplup >????
Like gen 5 designs but I don't see any of them as simple and widely appealing >greninja
It was up there but they treated it like a fotm even though it had crazy staying power >mimkyu >same as gen 5 >sprigatito/tinkaton
I know some of these are shillmons but none of them get even close to zard treatment.
The only true staying mascots are charizard, eevee, pikachu and maybe lucario
Pikachu already gets tons of shilling though
Grass/Rock Rock head no other changes needed.
Fire/Steel Contrary
>Empoleon
Water/Ice Technician (swap SpA and Atk. Swap SpD and Speed)
>Thyplosion
Fire/Psychic
Huge Power
Add Earth power and Energy ball
Lower Atk by 20, add 10 to SpA and 10 to Def.
Effective 122 Atk and 119 SpA to run either special or Physical sets.
Sceptile
Grass/Rock (regional or ancient varian)
Sharpness
Swap physical and special stats
Aqua cutter/Night slash/Sacred sword and Accelerock added to movepool.
>Swampert
Swap Damp for No Guard
>Blaizeken
Add Mach punch
>Meganium
Grass/Rock (dinosaur type)
Regenerator
>Skip Unovabortions
>Delphox
Prankster
>Chestnaught
Grass/Steel
>Greninja
Technician
Swap offensive stats
Water shuriken back to being Physical
Now for regional birds.
>Pidgeot
+20 SpA +10 Speed
No Guard instead of Keen Eye
>Fearow
3rd stage evo Ground/Flying with Simple/Sniper
+15 Atk +10 Def +10 SpD +23 Speed
>Noctowl
3rd stage evo Psychic/Flying
Magic Bounce/No Guard/Tinted lens
+10 Hp +30 Def +18SpA
>Talonflame
+20Atk
Add Jump kick to movepool
Gale wings now works at 30% or more Hp instead of only full health.
>Squakabilly
Different formes get new types/Abilities/Moves
>Green
Grass/Flying Technician
Gets Bullet seed
>Yellow
Electric/Flying
Tough claws
Gets Spark/Wild charge
>Blue
Water/Flying
Sheer Force
Gets Aqua Jet/Liquidation
>Grey
Rock/Flying
Pranskter
Stealth rock/Accelerock/Rock slide
>Typhlosion Huge Power
It's like this guy admits that Typhlo is such a massive jobber for it to need Huge Power to be relevant
Nah to make use of its physical moveset.
Morever i said to remove 20 points from Atk to move them elswhere for a reason.
Huge power/Pure power don't belong on anything with more than 70Atk.
Fucking kek the Sinnoh desperation is real lmao
I mean, Sinnoh does have the best designs tbh
LOL good joke
Obviously the complete opposite if you have to unironically beg to be shilled, which is the point of the thread
So, underrated things don't exist?
Trying to pin a label of underrated on something is literally what you do when you're not ahead in design appeal to begin with
You're outright contradicting yourself
>Sinnoh has the best designs
>No wait it has underrated designs
Seethe harder
Why would I seethe at a clown?
That's for your therapist to figure out, not me
If Sinnoh had the best designs they wouldn't be underrated, it's pretty clear English
Maybe you don't know the words you're using, since 'best designs' is a matter of opinion and you're already admitting the opinion is not in your favor by claiming they're underrated
ESL
I guess that makes you a high school dropout since you can't even properly identify ESL
>n-no you!
Classic brainlet response
Says the guy that improperly defaults to ESL ad hominem because he can't even understand English himself
>ad hominem
Use english, ESL
Holy kek, thanks for the confirmation of
, concession accepted
Go back to Mexico, immigrant
All you're accomplishing is making Sinnohfags look lower and lower IQ the more you stretch it out, so by all means get it all out
We all know latinx hate every single gens other than Gen 9, and Serena
That's good to know, what else?
Mexico need to be nuked to kingdom come
Cool, what else?
>Underrated implies it deserves to be rated higher
No shit
>Opinions of the people with good tastes, not the masses
>>good tastes
Kek that's a useless metric since it's just an opinion over an opinion
There's a reason marketing works by the masses
>There's a reason marketing works by the masses
Because the masses have the money, obviously
I said best designs not most lucrative ones
That's why I said it's fucking desperate
>I said designs *I LIKE* appeal to *MY* opinion of what's best!
It's like if a trans furry necrophile was crying they didn't pick the best designs to shill according to him nobody gives a shit about 'best' according to him.
My opinions matter more than yours because they are superior, it's only natural anon.
>If Sinnoh had the best designs they wouldn't be underrated
Underrated implies it deserves to be rated higher
>'best designs' is a matter of opinion
Opinions of the people with good tastes, not the masses
>You're outright contradicting yourself
has the best designs
>>No wait it has underrated designs
I don't think you know what the words you're using mean
You like to laugh at your own jokes, clown?
>good designs
Rhyperior is 3 posts up.
And?
That's a jobber.
Because shillmons never jobbed before (Charizard, Pikachu, Greninja)
>I grew up with Gen 4: the post
The only pokemon to deserve Charizard push is Charizard. End of discussion.
>Blaziken
Animorph fire type that never got the limelight
none
>mega form with snowflake ability, also before the other two
no, it doesn't
pic rel
>already seething about it
lol
i don't even like it i choose this one just to spite (You)
Spoiler is unironically good. Stop denying he isn't.
Nobody is denying he isn't
Ew
>dude what if we drew a cartoon monkey and put fire on it lmao
this is why nu-pokemon are so forgettable and they keep shilling gen 1 repeatedly.
Underutilized mons for each gen
>poliwhirl/jigglypuff
>pichu
>sceptile
>piplup
>????
Like gen 5 designs but I don't see any of them as simple and widely appealing
>greninja
It was up there but they treated it like a fotm even though it had crazy staying power
>mimkyu
>same as gen 5
>sprigatito/tinkaton
I know some of these are shillmons but none of them get even close to zard treatment.
The only true staying mascots are charizard, eevee, pikachu and maybe lucario
But Infernape DID get Charizard's push, and unlike Greninja, he wasn't assassinated for being too popular.
Posting the only correct answer in this thread
Seconding
>t. raped by Whitney as a child
>pokémon who deserve special treatment
Literally anyone that isn’t another goddamn starter
These good boys have a lot of potential
Infernape would be cool to see in Smash or Pokken
its whole claim to fame is its wide movepool