I've alway wanted to start collecting and painting 40k models but just can't bring myself to justify the price, I feel like id just be bette...

I've alway wanted to start collecting and painting 40k models but just can't bring myself to justify the price, I feel like id just be better off buying a 3D printer at this point but even that's alot of time and effort just for a hobby. How did the current state of warhammer get so grim and dark, bros?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >grim and dark
    moron it's not, you're just a cheapskate.
    Printer is around $400+ initial investment, so unless you know you'll want to do this or have other stuff to print, don't bother
    Just buy some minis and start painting. Don't have to go with GW ones, plenty of alternatives for a few bucks a mini.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Spy-D

      >You're just a cheapskate
      >Printer is around $400+ initial investment
      Holy fuck dude do you even hear yourself?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron I told you NOT to buy a printer because it's a large initial investment, then told you to buy non-40k minis for a few dollars each and start painting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Spy-D

          My bad fellow moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gonna be honest dude, if you can't afford to drop around 1000 bucks on a hobby, you're too poor to be having hobbies that cost money and should stick to video games or whatever.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Spy-D

          >Gonna be honest dude, if you can't afford to drop around 1000 bucks on a hobby, you're too poor to be having hobbies that cost money and should stick to video games or whatever.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1000 dollars is not a lot of money unless you're working an hourly job at a drive through bro, sorry. If you can't afford miniatures, you need to be working on getting an actual income.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Spy-D

              Do you rent or own a house? do you have car? or a family? and you're telling me you feel completely fine spending that much money on minis instead of using it for the benefit of any of those things? well, sorry but im not. Also the only reason they are this expensive and gw has gotten away with so much for so long is because of autist like you who are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but yes to all of those questions. $1000 spread out over 4-5 months is hardly noticeable to me.

                The other anon probably wasn’t saying you need to be able to drop $1000 in one go, but that essentially any hobby is going to require that kind of funding to really get established.

                Even video games require a game system and TV which can easily be $1000, maybe $600 minimum. PC gaming has about a $1000 entry floor for a prebuilt gaming pc with middle-low end hardware that can still run current games.

                As has been already said it’s comparatively cheap to get into model building/painting and you don’t have to start with GW products.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Spy-D

                yea but even off brands are still expensive and its not so much i cant afford them as i dont want to spend the money on something that shouldn't be anywhere near that expensive. plus what do you rewlly have? the re-sale value on models is terrible, you can only get commissions if your super talented, and if you try and sell "expertly painted" minis on ebay they take literal years to sell. Can you really tell me its justifiable to spend $50 on a squad of models you know for a fact didnt cost ¢50 to make?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How did the current state of warhammer get so grim and dark, bros?
                GW was very successful. 40k models sell very well for as GW can produce them. They produce models as fast as the electrical grid in Nottingham can physically support.

                >on something that shouldn't be anywhere near that expensive
                The market broadly supports their current price. This means they are priced broadly as they should be. GW could lower the price and more people would want to buy in, but as has been stated, they are already producing models about as fast as they can without massively expanding, so more demand would mostly mean more products out of stock more often.

                Why are you namefagging op? It only serves to make you look like a retard in advance of anyone reading your posts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Can you really tell me its justifiable to spend $50 on a squad of models you know for a fact didnt cost ¢50 to make?
                It's 50 cents of plastic, but its hundreds of thousands of dollars of molds, artists salaries, game designers salaries, rent on physical locations, store employee salaries, shipping, warehouses, web servers, and so on.

                Obviously they're still gouging you because they're trying to make a profit but this is true of literally anything you want to buy ever anywhere.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t really care man.

                “Why everything gotta cost money and shit!?”- you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Starting to seem like you're really not that interested in miniatures wargaming if other wargames are also too expensive. You could find an alt wargames or historicals group and see if they are playing gaslands or something, or slot into a boomer group with big established collections like I did with historicals during uni, but maybe it's just not for you if you don't want to cough up for a 100 bucks worth of paint and models for a fantasy skirmish game or whatever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have a house, a wife, a car payment, and I have over 2k points of admech. Warhammer is an expensive hobby. There's no way around it. There are some armies that you can build "cheaply" due to discounts, eBay supply, or other circumstances but that even involves usually having some awareness of those things which a newcomer won't even have. If the price is prohibitive for you then that $400 3D printer is worth its weight in gold. Warhammer is really fucking expensive and GW are horrible price gougers and there's just how it is. If you are specifically interested in Warhammer miniatures but don't want to pay for it your options are etsy 3D "Totally not warhammer" minis, eBay, or just biting the bullet and getting a kit. There are other miniature wargames but for the shit GW gets they really typically aren't a whole lot better price wise unless you are playing historical wargames which are dirt cheap in terms of per model cost.

                If you really are just interested in fantasy due to the overproduction and box splitting Age of Sigmar has a much lower price barrier for entry IF you are interested in Stormcast Eternals and the Kruleboys subfaction of the Orruk Warclans. The Dominion box is probably one of the best values you can easily find through 3rd parties or looking on ebay for its kits.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Spy-D
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You asked a question and I answered it. If you're going to be a gay like this I'm glad you're not going to be into wargaming, there's already enough maladjusted retards who don't know how to act.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The average person makes about 50k in the US. If they are single, childless, and this is their only hobby 1k isn't going to be that much, only 2% of their yearly income. However if they have other expenses including family, the price for a home or apartment that can fit said family, or they have other hobbies they already spend that money on, yes spending 1k USD on plastic men and all the tools needed for them can seem like a waste. Especially once you look beyond GW and begin to see cheaper minis/paints or the investment of a 3d printer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OP balked at paying for cheaper minis or printer too. If you're stretching 50k to cover a family without your spouse working thats a choice you guys made and obviously thats going to take sacrifices.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't see that OP was a fag, that's in him

                However even with a spouse working children are expensive as fuck, hence why they often even work I. The first place. Go check out MITs living wage calculator, shit is grim.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just speaking to my personal circumstances, but for my area it way overestimates. It claims 20 dollars an hour is a living wage in my area, but if you had a roommate you could get by on the local minimum (16) just fine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you look at the 2 adults both working? For my area it is very accurate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its extremely accurate for my area and situation. 2 adults 1 working, 3 kids. $81,000 required before taxes for "living wage".

                Theres no way my wife would earn enough to offset the cost of child care thats for sure.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Video games require just as large of purchases oftne times (Console+Games+Online Pass, or just the PC thanks to graphics cards becoming so expensive), unless you're content to only have last Gen consoles. Also for many its not that we can't afford 40k, it's that it seems absurd to pay the prices GW asks for plastic soldiers. Especially if you already have a different hobby that you see as worth more value.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does it have to be 40k? Have you ever played 40k? What's the main reason you'd want to play 40k over other games?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Spy-D

      I dont want to play I love the lore and the minis and if im being honest id love to make dioramas someday like (pic related)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Spy-D
        • 3 weeks ago
          Spy-D

          classic horus and emp's designs were so fucking cool

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >red bandanna
            Emperor from Catachan confirmed, Catachan jungle fighters are literally gods chosen people

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then buy single models/characters, busts and other models other people have 3d printed and paint those; you don't need box after box of basic infantry if you're doing it purely to paint.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >id love to make dioramas someday
        That requires painting and you're not going to want to pay for quality paint, which makes the models seem cheap

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Sean

    I keep wanting to play the game but everyone keeps calling the game shit, and it feels like there's a lot to consider before jumping in and I'm not sure if I want to do fantasy instead, but I'm afraid fantasy is dead or something anyway

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go get a Vallejo starter paint kit ($30), some cheap-ass brushes from a hobby store ($5), make yourself a wet palette (free-ish).

    Realize that building, basing and painting the models will take hours, so that initial $140 you drop on your first Combat Patrol box will take a few weeks. And if you don't plan on playing, you'll want to spend extra time making the models look extra good.

    Then eBay the rest and strip the paint off the used models for 30-50% retail.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This . Don't buy an entire army at once. Just buy a unit at a time and buy the next one when you're done with painting it. Slow and steady is the way to go and you won't have a massive backlog inflicting you with massive guilt. Rules are temporary, models are forever.
      Start with something you can play kill team with if you want to actually play too.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >retarded poorfag secondary namefag posting wojak and the reddit frog because someone told him to buy a cheap 3d printer
    this feels like a parody thread

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can buy peoples printed minis for like $6-7 usually.
    When the model files themselves are $4-5, you don't save much at all buying a printer and doing it yourself. You'd have to print hundreds of figures to break even

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3D-printers are massive pain in the ass to maintain and operate, you won't be "better off buying a 3d-printer"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, retards to stupid to operate a printer would think this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They really aren't anon. Why on earth do you think they are? My maintenance is summed up as "lift out tank and wash in IPA bucket when done, then replace".

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look at alternative companies to buy models from, as many sell off-brand 40k that are honestly decent enough quality (some of the newer ones are over designed, however 40k is beginning to have that problem as well). Or look at other wargames to get interested in and paint models for.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the most useless thread I've seen in a while. A crybaby like you should probably be a 40k cuck as well

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >post ai art
    >complain about the state of things
    kys

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How did the current state of warhammer get so grim and dark, bros?
    It was always expensive and overpriced, it's just become even more so because the state of the world/economy is grim and dark.

    Honestly it sounds like you simply can't justify the price, and that's fine as long as you admit it and stay away from talking about the game or the models. You can interact with the setting by reading the books, playing the computer games, and going on Lexicanum lore binges. That's a lot cheaper.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Real shit here.
    If you want to try it out, you can buy a kill team.
    In 40k terms, that's the small mode, if you want a variety of teams that consist of only special dudes, you can get into that for like 60$ from box, 30-35$ on ebay.

    Then you gotta get something like gorilla glue and something to cut plastic with.

    Assemble your dudes. Prime them with some rattlecan paint, and try painting them.

    then find the rules on an easily searchable website and play

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This . Don't buy an entire army at once. Just buy a unit at a time and buy the next one when you're done with painting it. Slow and steady is the way to go and you won't have a massive backlog inflicting you with massive guilt. Rules are temporary, models are forever.
      Start with something you can play kill team with if you want to actually play too.

      He doesn't want to play the game. He just wants to do the modeling part of the hobby making this thread even dumber because he should just buy the minis he likes when he can.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he doesn't want to get into modeling he wants to complain.
        $60 for a box of troops seems like a lot until you realize that the actual expensive part about the hobby is finding the time to paint, because that $60 box is easily 10 to 20 hours of work.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that's alot of time and effort just for a hobby.
    What do you think a hobby is, exactly?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are other hobbies that don't cost as much, w40k is as elitist as elitist gets. Other than maybe historical miniatures.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >w40k is as elitist as elitist gets.
        You have no idea what you're talking about.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >something i dont have to spend enough money to buy a car to start doing
    All hobbies require time and effort.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    have a nice day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Spy-D

      yea but were talking about painting lityle plastic men here, not at homebrew nuclear physics.

      yea i know

      There are other hobbies that don't cost as much, w40k is as elitist as elitist gets. Other than maybe historical miniatures.

      a good portion of the fanbase is fuckin insufferable...

      [...]
      Shut the fuck up whiny namefag gay have a nice day

      based

      You can get minis from other companies for much less (Northstar, Perry Miniatures, Mantic, etc).
      If you desperately want GW models, try eBay.
      Vallejo paints are both better and cheaper. Same goes for most third party hobby supplies.
      If you're not building an army and only buying select models then you have no excuse. Yes, the minis are expensive, but so is everything else these days.

      Honestly id be down for some knock of gw merch, i think you can find pretty good models on etsy but idfk

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Shut the fuck up whiny namefag gay have a nice day

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can get minis from other companies for much less (Northstar, Perry Miniatures, Mantic, etc).
    If you desperately want GW models, try eBay.
    Vallejo paints are both better and cheaper. Same goes for most third party hobby supplies.
    If you're not building an army and only buying select models then you have no excuse. Yes, the minis are expensive, but so is everything else these days.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that's alot of time and effort just for a hobby.
    it's a hobby that has a high level of time requirements, so if you can't or won't justify the time then it isn't the hobby for you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Spy-D

      Yea your right I should probably just stick to collecting guns and chasing pussy have fun with your $1000 worth of plastic though.

      You asked a question and I answered it. If you're going to be a gay like this I'm glad you're not going to be into wargaming, there's already enough maladjusted retards who don't know how to act.

      Based.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can't afford a 3d printer
        >expects us to believe you can afford guns and ammo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Spy-D

          Again not so much "can't" as "won't" moron, it's the principle of the thing. Like, not spending my hard earned money on a hobby that shouldnt coast half as much as it does

        • 3 weeks ago
          Spy-D

          Again not so much "can't" as "won't" moron, it's the principle of the thing. Like, not spending my hard earned money on a hobby that shouldnt coast half as much as it does

          Actually now that you mention it i actually just bought a gun and believe it or not theirs a hobby shop that sells warhammer minis right next to it. I did the math altogether the one box of models, primer, paint, brushes, and tools would have cost me almost as much as AN ACTUAL FUCKIN GUN. Motherfucker dont even try to act like these prices are anywhere near reasonable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LARP

            • 3 weeks ago
              Spy-D

              1. believe what you wanna believe fag
              2. Even if i was lying that dosent chabge the fact you have to spend enough money to buy a actual firearm in order to start collecting and painting minis
              3.kys

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            to be fair you can just resell your minis if you've assembled them and painted them for a profit usually

        • 3 weeks ago
          Spy-D

          I make lots of money from my job as a gay prostitute, but I use most of it on meth.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    people that most want to shitpost are those that are least capable

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a lot of time and effort just for a hobby
    I don't think you know what a hobby is

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