I've only ever played Super Mario 64, where should I begin with this franchise, are they mostly good games?

I've only ever played Super Mario 64, where should I begin with this franchise, are they mostly good games?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    smw and sm64 are the only good games

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just play them in order you doofus
    There are no bad mainline mario games, they range from good to great

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is usually what one shouldn't do, what makes this series different?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is usually what one shouldn't do
        Who told you this?
        the majority of the time when you want to get into a series the best way to do it is release order, who convinced you that you're better off skipping most of the shit in a franchise and letting other people tell you which parts of it are good and bad when you can decide that for yourself and have more informed opinions about why you didn't like the ones you didn't like?

        How do you know the people telling you to skip shit don't have terminally awful taste?
        People also say you should skip the first 6 or so seasons of The Simpsons despite Season 1 having the most soul, and people say to skip Witcher 1 & 2 and go straight to 3 even though Witcher 1 is fricking stellar and people just got filtered because it expects you to use your brain.

        You should experience the shit yourself, so that when you talk to other people about it you can tell if they're full of shit despite speaking at you with an air of authority about the subject.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Who told you this?
          I know a lot of you like to preach to the contrary but you've always been wrong when you say to do so. I struggle to think of a single series where you *should* play them in -release order. It's obvious that's now how it's supposed to be done unless you simply did play them back when they released in order.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's obvious that's now how it's supposed to be done unless you simply did play them back when they released in order.
            Can you explain why its obvious, because I genuinely cannot understand why you think letting other people tell you what to think is better, and I can't think of any instances where this isn't the right way to do it outside of franchises that suck ass and don't deserve to be played after a certain release

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How about with an example. I'm familiar with the Legend of Zelda series. Nobody should start with Zelda 1, that would be a ridiculous thing now. I've seen threads on Ganker where people ask which game to start with, and even though I don't agree with their choice, they tend to always say Ocarina of Time. Mind you this isn't an isolated thing, it's borderline obvious that there's more recent games in different franchises you simply should play foremost now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody should start with Zelda 1, that would be a ridiculous thing now
                Zelda 1 holds up perfectly fine and you only think it doesn't because you skipped it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, that's an asinine take.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Zelda 1 holds up perfectly fine
                hmm
                no

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nobody should start with Zelda 1, that would be a ridiculous thing now
                Zelda 1 holds up perfectly fine and you only think it doesn't because you skipped it

                Also
                If you start with Ocarina you completely miss out on the evolution of 2D Zelda games and will have no context for how they translated those concepts to 3D

                No, that's an asinine take.

                And you can't explain why because you don't know wtf you're talking about because you never played it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you completely miss out on the evolution of 2D Zelda
                Not really no, one misses out on how you experienced your games playing them when they came out back in the day. However if someone forces themselves through release order they wont even necessarily experience your subjective view either. It would be a toss up.

                I don't think I've ever met anyone who couldn't take a detour eventually one day to play an older title in the series, and understand its legacy then. You have such an arbitrary view on how one might experience games, don't you see that?
                It's why it's just so damn silly to insist someone play old possibly outdated games first.

                You should instruct others to play better games, BEFORE they get burnt out by antiquated game design. two cents

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's why it's just so damn silly to insist someone play old possibly outdated games first.
                Then play the newest one first you dork
                Also if you can't enjoy older games thats on you for needing your hand held so much.

                I dunno go play Mario Odyssey and Galaxy and skip the rest,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I dunno go play Mario Odyssey and Galaxy and skip the rest
                Sounds like a plan, I will likely try Thousand Year Door as well. Nintendo intends to faithfully remake it, which would imply the game holds up really well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Who told you this?
          People who actually play old ass series dating back to 80's.
          Playing in release order being the best holds true when we're talking about games debuting in current century, not when the oldest game is an archeological relic from times when people put up with terrible interfaces, framerates, load times and other timewasters. In that case it's a crapshoot whether you'll get filtered and miss out on the good stuff just because the first game was made for people built different or if it still holds up to today's standards.
          Ganker isn't ready for this conversation, though, nor it will ever be.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >skip
          I find it a funny term, because deep down you genuinely believe if they play a more recent game first they will choose not to play older titles. You KNOW those older games are bad, don't you? You know they will not enjoy them. I find it almost sadist to guide someone into playing an older game when you know they're not that good by comparison.

          [...]
          Also
          If you start with Ocarina you completely miss out on the evolution of 2D Zelda games and will have no context for how they translated those concepts to 3D

          [...]
          And you can't explain why because you don't know wtf you're talking about because you never played it

          How is experiencing the evolution of games important, anyway. Does evolution not imply there's an objective improvement.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Does evolution not imply there's an objective improvement.
            No

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You should almost never do this because if you play games for gameplay you usually just want the best iteration. You don't play GTA by release order, you play 2, sa and 5 and you'll have experienced the best the games have to offer. If you want more you can go back and play the others.
          This is the case for almost ANY series where the gameplay is the focus not the story

          What cod would you play? Mh? Far cry? DMC? Castlevania? Zelda?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DMC and Castlevania are both worth it to start from the beginning.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How do you know they're the best if you haven't played the others?
            You might as well not even play them at all and just watch youtube videos that will explain to you why you think they're good too.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Tired of this strawmann, you are getting BTFO by people who eventually did play those older titles and they sucked dick. Get over it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because of a consensus you inbred
              That's why you ask people who love the series
              Very few people recommend castlevania 1, most suggest rondo, sotn or super castlevania 4 based on what you want.
              Meanwhile for dmc I see recommendations for 4 and 5 but this time mixed in with a fair few people saying to start with one. The caveat of this is that they admit it's clunky and just say to start with it because it'll feel like shit if you play it after 3 (or one of the later titles)

              >IV fans will hate this fact

              I fricking hated GTA IV. The gameplay felt worse than both the older and newer titles and while I could see how some might like the story a lot it wasn't for me. It felt like they were trying to do a lot of impressive things but spent so much time on it they forgot to make the game fun

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The consensus is to skip Witcher 1 but its great
                The consensus is that early simpsons is bad
                The consensus is that The Last of Us is the best game ever made
                If I wanted to talk about the consensus I'd be on reddit with the rest of the people that have nothing to add to conversations

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Witcher is complete fricking dogshit compared to Witcher 2
                If you think otherwise you're a contrarian that measures a game's merit purely on it's jank

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Describe why its worse

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >IV fans will hate this fact

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >super mario bros deluxe
    >super mario bros 3
    >super mario world
    >Yoshi’s island
    >super mario galaxy
    >super mario galaxy 2
    >super mario 3D land
    >super mario odyssey
    >super mario bros wonder
    >paper mario
    >paper mario TTYD
    That’s a decent selection

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >papergay
      have a nice day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hating Paper Mario
        I weep for your shit taste

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is a Mario & Luigi board, pleb

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A series where only the first one was good

            • 3 weeks ago
              Boco

              First and third.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bowser's Inside Vore
                >Good

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah no doubt about that, I made a thread several weeks ago calling out SS for the overrated piece of crap it is and I had a bunch of fat stinky losers foaming at the mouth over it

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just quit, you played the only one capable of entertaining an adult

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    play paper mario and yoshis island

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should play Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario World, Super Mario Land and Super Mario 64. You should beat 3, World and 64.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mario Galaxy is top tier

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *not how how it's supposed to be done.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every Mario game or a large majority of them are awesome

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For 2D games either 3 or World. Since you've played 64, I'd say World might be a better fit.
    For 3D it's Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2. The levels aren't fully free-roam like 64 and more "obstacle courses", but what they do, they do really well.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love Mario. Even when it's bad it's still good. Some highlights
    >prettiest game
    SM Sunshine
    >comfiest game
    Paper Mario TTYD
    >best 3d platforming
    Galaxy 2, honorable mention to 1 and SM64
    >best 2d platforming
    SM Bros 3
    >honorable mention
    SM World and SM Bros 2

    enjoy OP.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much every game is worth playing, though I recommend starting with something more modern

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No
    life was better when we were single celled organisms >prehistoric boomerisms

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Evolution means adapting to your conditions, games adapting to be more profitable under modern conditions does not necessarily mean they are better games.
      I don't think you're being serious though, I think you're just pretending to be stupid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think you are "moving the goalpost", evolution was used in the context of

        [...]
        Also
        If you start with Ocarina you completely miss out on the evolution of 2D Zelda games and will have no context for how they translated those concepts to 3D

        [...]
        And you can't explain why because you don't know wtf you're talking about because you never played it

        this post.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, and sometimes a translation from 2D to 3D isn't always better, its just the game adapting to modern circumstances

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >only played SMB on a NES emulator
    >didn't make it past World 4
    I'm so bad at these games. I try to play it slow and methodically and just get overwhelmed and frustrated whenever I experience difficulties. When I try to play it fast, I just die because I have no reaction time.
    I don't think this genre is for me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When you think about it, 2D platformers are the worst genre. Gacha and Visual Novels don't even count obviously.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When I think about it, I realize you’re a moron with bad taste

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You like a genre that is about running from one side of the screen to the other, and just jumping. Just jumping.
          You cannot lecture anyone on bad taste, begone nave.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            FPS are just pointing and clicking

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No the worst genre is FPS, its the same shit over and over again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I try to play it slow and methodically and just get overwhelmed and frustrated whenever I experience difficulties.
      Mario isn't meant to be played slow and methodically, you're meant to hold forward and the run button down the entire time

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most mario games are baby mode bullshit, same goes for the good ones, but y'know.
    list of actual good mario games
    >mario 1
    >mario 2 (jp)
    >mario 3
    >yoshi's island
    >64
    >sunshine
    >nsmb (ds)
    >odyssey

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Super Mario Land 2

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >where should I begin with this franchise
    At the start. SMB1 for the NES. Know that you can use A + Start on the main menu for infinite continues. Don't cheat with warps or save states, git gud and you'll beat it in no time.
    Then play SMB2J remake on the SNES. Yeah it's hard but if you end up enjoying the first game this will be a nice continuation of that same challenge. And the remake makes it easier by having checkpoints on every level so even if you die a lot you never lose much progress.
    SMB2 USA is optional. Try the SNES version, see if you like it.
    SMB3 is essential and any version is fine.
    Same goes for SMW though I personally prefer the GBA version over the SNES one because of some QoL stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >git gud and you'll beat it in no time
      >tfw haven't beaten smb1 in 30 years

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Enter

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Super Mario Allstars is a good place to get familiar with the core 2D platformers.

    You might prefer to play the NES versions rather than the SNES versions, that's just a matter of preference as the games are near-identical in how they play.

    "The Lost Levels" is considerably challenging and might be offputting if you can't manage the difficulty level, it originally skipped an international NES release for a reason. I still recommend trying it though.

    If you find out that you prefer 3D Mario to 2D Mario, replay SM64 and then play Sunshine, Galaxy 1, Galaxy 2, Odyssey.
    Playing 3D Land and 3D World are also recommended though they actually fit somewhere between 2D and 3D Mario.

    If you want to play something new, go straight to Odyssey if you want 3D Mario, and straight to Super Mario Bros Wonder if you want 2D Mario.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >are they mostly good games?
    No

    Play SMB1 and 3, play World, play World 2, get 100% in 64, play Sunshine.

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