Yugir is baby shit. His minions are worse than him.
Use potion of invisibillity on your strength char and push him off the ledge to prone him, then focus him.
There's a few ambushes, all shades can go invisible so that's most of the enemies in the overworld, then a bunch of enemies can just vanish in the temple of Sharr
>I can think of two places where See Invisibility matters
There are multiple spots where it can matter. From the top of my head. >Duergar ambush >Dolor >Gauntlet of Shar
There are probably other places where it matteres but i can't remember them right now.
Duergar invisibility is easy to break with AoE and the fight isn't hard to begin with.
You can stunlock and/or OTK Dolor.
Gauntlet of Shar? Maybe for seeing the path, but I swear that's bugged because I've never not seen it. I always have Darkvision though.
temple of shar
yurgir
off the top of my head
Y'all are fighting Yurgir?
You can help him get out his contract and you can easily ambush him. There's kind of a chokepoint so even if he goes invisible you force him into AoE damage.
It's fucking Volo, anon.
The guy that has been pretending to be a useless, powerless, bumbling idiot while exploring the entirety of the world for hundreds of years and encountering most powerful figures and some of the deadliest, rarest monsters.
Let's say I did know how he was, because unlike that anon I have heard of him before.
Is there any reason to believe this is gonna lead to you getting a magical eye and not just having one gored out your face?
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Isn't OP's point that this full retard choice is actually a good one?
You get a free permanent See Invisibility out of this.
I have no familiarity with dnd lore bit I've seen enough rpgs and heard enough le wacky dnd players to know this would give you a benefit. this kind of wacky irony is so predictable now thanks to marvel movies and normies getting into nerd shit that it would actually be weird if letting some sketchy "haha I lost my medical license here goes nothing XD" doctor operate on you DIDNT give you a good outcome
a small but mostly inconsequential bonus hiding behind what is an insane choice at first glance.
where's the problem? if you roleplay you'll probably not get it and not worry about it either.
Hag gives you a glass eye, Volo gives you a high tech eye. You can't take both, sadly. Though it'd be fun to have both your eyes plucked out, Volo won't try if you have a glass eye since it seems like someone already did, and the hag won't take a fake eye
It's meant to be a comical scene. Why do you feel the need to do it? Like, what part of your brain disallows you from roleplaying in a roleplaying game?
>I should only be rewarded by making the most obvious choice.
I think I'm beginning to understand the minds of people who whine about this game.
sometimes gambles pay off sometimes they dont
you wont know until you try
if you let the hag fuck with your eye you get a janky dead eye but you get unique dialogues about it and a debuff to PER but a buff to intimidation
>you get unique dialogues about it
No you don't
Not a single person at Hag Survivors Anonymous commented on my fucked eye
One of them even said I looked like a normal guy
this dude is actively fucking stabbing you in the eye and your character is still like "oh wow are u sure u are doing that right? xD" and other quips like that
>this dude is actively fucking stabbing you in the eye and your character is still like "oh wow are u sure u are doing that right? xD"
Your character only says quippy shit if you select that dialog choice you moron. I guess you also complain about a bear fucking you after you spent time and effort romancing him.
It was fucking hilarious. At first I thought it was serious, then realized he didn't know what the fuck he was doing, then the ice pick just made me laugh out loud. I kept going along with it just to see how far it would go, glad to see it paid off with a cool looking eye with a free see invisibility spell.
Rolled DU with an amnesic drow, who's trying to be good since she doesn't remember her life before anyway. But I got duped into playing a drow, since people said it completely changed how people see you. And besides a very few occasions in act 1 which is mostly flavour text, it hasn't come up.
Still having fun though. Great game so far, very rare I can just enjoy one like this.
Because he hasn't actually played the game. Almost everything ITT is just saved from other people's playthroughs and memes. It's embarassingly obvious and no amount of samefagging or screenshots of steam achievement progress can change the fact that he doesn't know even the basics of the game, which shines through in every single one of his increasingly vague posts.
>agrees the writing is retarded >JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME BRO
why do you do this? why do you lower the bar for everyone? do you have stock in Larian Studios?
You get SEVEN opportunities to back out of the Volo surgery during it, which you would know if you had even played the scene you're complaining about a SINGLE FUCKING TIME
YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED MAN IT IS SOOOO OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS PLAYED HOW STUPID YOU ARE
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. This gay could not be more obvious, reminds me of the CIA
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>>JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME BRO
I didn't say that buddy, I said that you can choose how to play the game
I know that reading is hard for you so try to take it slow.
Also anger is bad for you.
>agrees with me that the writing is fucktarded >just happy that some coder somewhere thinks, accurately, that you're a retarded
i mean, enjoy your slop. i have standards.
what makes you think I ever pick this option? i picked it once to try it, thought it was deeply retarded and immersion breaking, never picked it again. but nice attempt at moving the goalpost and misdirection. the fact is, you agree with me that its retarded, but you just accept it because you're a retard.
>don't pick that option if you don't want to >WHAT? DON'T EVER PLAY ANY OF THE GAME!? AH HA, I SHOWED YOU
????
yes, youre telling me to not play certain parts of the game because they're retaded. like that solves the problem? the writing is retarded regardless of whether or not someone was there to hear it.
>don't pick that option if you don't want to >WHAT? DON'T EVER PLAY ANY OF THE GAME!? AH HA, I SHOWED YOU
????
just dont read my post if it upsets you, bro. how retarded are you to respond in anger? just dont read my post. problem solved.
The writing is good in the sense that it avoids common tropes in characterization, people act like real humans (the proof is how much it makes incel a seethe), and dangerous medical experiments based on bunk science aren’t historically inaccurate.
what? its literally all the same trope. edgy good guy that accidentally made a deal with a bad guy. literally every companion has no character arc at all, they are all 1-dimensional in the exact same way. Except Shart, which has a change of heart and takes accountability for her own destiny. i dont even have to influence her at all. every other companion is a high-maintenance baby that requires effort on my part to satisfy or solve their problem. Shart just actually contributes to the team: brings the artifact, saves an angel, casts bless/guardian spirits.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>yes, youre telling me to not play certain parts of the game because they're retaded
No, he's saying when an RPG presents you with a variety of responses, pick the one you want instead of complaining about a response you don't like.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
thats literally what i do you dumb moron. i can still comment on how retarded the writing is. do you have brain damage?
>what makes you think I ever pick this option? i picked it once to try it, thought it was deeply retarded and immersion breaking, never picked it again.
Look everyone, the Brainlord over her managed to figure out how to play RPGs
i think you just figured out that i can criticize writing of a particular quest without picking it every playthrough? how retarded are you? really?
I thought you were hitting the gym to do some heavy reps bro?
you dont do heavy exercise when fasting, but i think you have me confused with someone else
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You haven't commented on anything, you just keep repeating that it is "garbage" but never explain why.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>think you just figured out that i can criticize writing of a particular quest without picking it every playthrough?
I'm actually amazed that you manage to remember to breathe
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>NOO YOU CANT CRITICIZE THE WRITING IN THE GAME JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD
why are you still reading my posts? you know you can read and respond to other posts, right? or maybe you can go to a different forum where posts are better?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>why are you still reading my posts?
Because I feed off of your extreme asspain you mouthbreathing mong.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>what makes you think I ever pick this option? i picked it once to try it, thought it was deeply retarded and immersion breaking, never picked it again.
Look everyone, the Brainlord over her managed to figure out how to play RPGs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why did you respond to my post twice with two different replies?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the fact is, you agree with me that its retarded, but you just accept it because you're a retard.
Putting words in peoples mouths is a pathetic attempt to look like you're "winning".
I personally think it's a funny little side thing that you may or may not do as you like
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I thought you were hitting the gym to do some heavy reps bro?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Pick A, B, C, D or E >I don't like E >Then don't pick that one >DON'T PICK AT ALL!? SO YOU AGREE THAT ALL OF THIS IS BAD!?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes, you're saying that it's okay that the writing is retarded, cuz i can just not play the game. then why are you responding to my post? just dont read my post bro, whos forcing you to read my post?
You haven't commented on anything, you just keep repeating that it is "garbage" but never explain why.
it's been explained above exactly why this quest is retarded
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I can just not play the game
No, he's not saying that.
You realise that in an RPG game like Bg3 you have multiple choices to make?
And it is your perogative to make them, this doesn't mean that you aren't playing the game, it's actually the opposite, you are ROLE PLAYING and picking choices you want to play
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes, everyone knows this. you realize i can criticize the writing of a RPG?
>why are you still reading my posts?
Because I feed off of your extreme asspain you mouthbreathing mong.
so when you tell me that i dont have to pick the retarded option, you're really just projecting because you chose to respond to the posts you disagree with? except i never pick the volo option and i usually dont even rescue him because his entire charcter is a reddit moment. so you can stop projecting and calling me a "mouthbreathing mong" for the things that you do but i dont actually do. literally youre describing your behavior, ive explained to you multiple times i dont do the volo story so... youre a bit slow
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>except i never pick the volo option and i usually dont even rescue him
So...whats the problem here exactly?
The writing is good in the sense that it avoids common tropes in characterization, people act like real humans (the proof is how much it makes incel a seethe), and dangerous medical experiments based on bunk science aren’t historically inaccurate.
>don't pick that option if you don't want to >WHAT? DON'T EVER PLAY ANY OF THE GAME!? AH HA, I SHOWED YOU
????
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's like one of.those retards that get mad that their character turned gay after deliberately clicking every gay dialogue option in the game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's because they never played
It is so easy to influence these mongs who spend 24 hours a day on Ganker instead of playing games
You post a screenshot the idea that it is optional content will not even occur to them
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Bg3 making chuds seethe for three years now
man I kinda sorry I missed out on BG threads before I played 3
Do you need to go through with this to unlock more dialogue or content with Volo? Or is he really supposed to do and say nothing for the rest of the game?
Except for the hags hair, which I believe is the only way to get a stat to 22 without items/pots, right?
I think it's one of the only few stat boosting items in the game, along with a 2+ strength one that I forgot
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
if you take the hair the petrified dwarf doesnt show up in act 3 to give you the unique cache
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I haven't found the petrified dwarf yet in act 3. Is he in the city?
Isn't the hair a one time use item though?
Yes, a one time, permanent boost
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>permanent boost
It ends at long rest, anon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
no it doesn't
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're mistaking it for the worthless bone she throws you that casts every Enhance Ability spell on you.
I think having a hole drilled in your forehead for a third eye would be neat, just tank my charisma stat or give me a perk that makes me reviled. I'd like to become a mutated freak monster that terrorizes small children with my grotesque appearance.
>talking to hag with Wyll as my face >she tells him to fuck off since he already lost an eye
was a pretty neat detail honestly, I expected Larian to forget something so small.
to be fair the idea of a tadpole in your brain but muh mcguffin stops it its still incredible retarder-r
no D&D player would care for anything if you put a fucking time bomb in their heads
its one of the worst gimmick and worse plot a dm could come up with
its almost like those morons don't know what the fuck a mind flayer is if ever played a D&D game
I think his point is that it isn't retarded, even though it should be. It's objectively the right decision to let an unlicensed sex pest obliterate your eyeball and poke around in your brain.
It was fucking hilarious. At first I thought it was serious, then realized he didn't know what the fuck he was doing, then the ice pick just made me laugh out loud. I kept going along with it just to see how far it would go, glad to see it paid off with a cool looking eye with a free see invisibility spell.
I SHOULDNE BE ABLE TO MAKE RETARDED DECISIONS IN THE GAME
But you are, you fucking retard. With no negative consequences. Why do you idiotic ESLoids keep coming to this site?
Does "obscured in shadow" simply mean being hidden? I found a bow that gives +1d4 bonus to anged attacks when doing so. It seems really good for Astarion with assassin/ranger build.
you'll see a little sun type thing when you're sneaking in combat, it'll either be a full sun (not obscured by anything) a half sun (slightly obscured by light shadow) or a darkened out sun (completely obscured by shadow)
Hold shift and move the mouse around. If the sun is filled, that spot is open. If it's half full or empty, it's partially or fully obscured. Just make sure you're not carrying a light source, although being on fire doesn't necessarily count as light.
In gyrmforge I was so busy sneaking off the side path and had to long rest after fighting the boss that the stupid drow guy died and his lantern broke
I also didn't have minthara's lyre so I had to kill the guides
Is there actually a way through the shadow curse if you don't get any of this shit? I ended up just triple dashing astarion to the towers alone because I knew there just had to be a waypoint there. Felt like real cheese.
Same. I don't understand why he can't try the same eye though. Also are there any eyepatches in the game? It would probably take up the helmet slow anyway though. However if it takes up the helmet slot and gives stats that would be cool.
There's people who are not genre savy, my best friend is one of them.
When we played DivinityOS2 he felt for every trick like getting mugged by the prostitute, but probably the worst moment was when he made a deal with a demon we later fought against (he was useless the entire fight because of the contract)
The hag has nothing to do with being "genre-savy". It merely requires an IQ above room temperature to notice the entire fucking room of people who got monkey's pawed by the hag.
What do you mean? The deal with the eye is before entering her lair. So, you shouldn't know about the room of people behind an illusory wall.
The deal she makes you inside the lair is objectively good though, and the dialog actually tells you it's good with (Ability Score +1) tagged in Ethel's speech.
why do druids get to do literally everything? >high damage spells >healing >necromancy >melee combat with shileligh or wildshape >zero drawbacks to any of this and barely less effective than fighter/wizard/cleric
Okay and it's weird that they put it in. See how this works? I'm not going to stop making fun of it just because of your autistic, illiterate babblings about 'ppl'.
based on weapons that I'll get later, do I want the sussur dagger or greatsword?
my warlock does some going invisible, miststepping around blasting, shoving and stabbin, and if that could also silence that'd be nice
on the other hand, lazel does a lot more full on melee attacking, and always silencing with that would be nice too
either choice seems good, but the main thing I don't like is that those are my only two dagger and GS characters, so nobody to hand-me-down if I find something better 5 minutes later
Type like a human, you fucking moron. How do you get the nerve, assaulting people's eyes with that garbage formatting?
>learn Polymorph >excited to see what all creatures that can transform my allies into >only option it has is Sheep
The fuck is this cartoony Warcraft bullshit? I don't need a CC spell that gives the target a free life bar.
What is the difference of spells that use different ranks of spell slots but visibly have the exact same numbers? Paladin has a few of those buffs, but I can't remember the name right now.
I knew it wasn't going to work in removing the tadpole because thats the whole plot at that point, but I suspected it would have a positive outcome because they want players to like this guy and not leave a lasting negative impression.
yeah there's literally zero downsides to taking his deal, you can fuck him over and blow up his watchers and only the guards at wyrms rock will get pissy.
I don't like spells like "grease". Basically "one turn, do nothing" feels so bad. Maybe it's good, but I really wish that grease was a bonus action spell so that you could get the benefit blowing it up immediately.
Sure, but maybe I'm just at a particularly bad part right now (act 2, shadowlands), but it feels like most enemies now have some kind of teleport to bypass it.
take the create water pill
put shart, gale or halsin on liquid duty
you should have just about a full set of lightning-themed items for your spellcaster at that point
You're talking about using a level 1 spell in an area for level 5+ players. yeah, it's gonna suck at that point. you are meant to be rotating onto stronger CC support spells and using your level 1's for cheap offense and utility
I'm doing Shar's trial below the mausoleum. The stealth one was really fun, but god damn is the one summoning clones of yourselves raping me. They surprise my party, and during those two turns they kill at least 2 of my guys.
you can use stealth and sneak up behind them. That will let you position your party and start combat however you want
or just use all your party to kill them one by one like a normal fight . You still complete the mission but you get a curse that you can simply remove with the correct spell.
This is not true. A lot of the time when you make a retarded decision you need to roll in order to get a positive result. You get a benefit only if you rolled high enough. sin'ce most people here savescum they never experience the bad sides on gambling on bad decisions.
Hiding benefits behind dice rolls is at best a disingenuous way of artificially lengthening a game by intentionally depriving the player of optimal outcomes, and at worst a randomised shitshow that destroys narrative coherence and dramatic tension.
Even DMs fudge rolls. Keep your dogshit lolsorandom epic reddit snafu moment generators out of serious games.
>destroys dramatic tension
Retard. The fact that there is a chance for you to fail the roll even with five stacks of advantages creates tension. People who seethe at dice rolls love to type out platitudes without knowing what they mean.
Dice rolls for dialogue skill checks are dogshit because it's still a binary outcome, retard.
It's not like tabletop where a DM can manipulate the scene.
You either get a 1 or a 0 on the check. Yes or no.
Every persuasion check in every rpg is a binary outcome I don't know why you are seething. I wish critical failures or critical successes were relevant though
Is there really that much content that you get locked out of?
I of course choose to kill the tieflings because I want a drow wife, but I honestly could not give a single fuck about any druid or moron quest so I'm not too bothered
It would bother me if I do get locked out in act 2 from chunks of content that are important
Act 3 will be a bit more bare due to several companion quests wrapping up in the lategame, there'll also be less reactivity because companions run into people they know in Act 3, including people in the main quest.
I literally need it because I enjoy builds and EB is my favorite cantrip. Machinegun EB is fun.
Thankfully I was able to use EB for my favorite build with Warmagic at lvl 7 Eldritch Knight, lvl5 Pact of the Blade, arcane synergy ring, and Daredevil gloves. Favorite build. EB can also be busted on lvl10 Evoc Wiz Apache helicopter build thanks to spellsniper feat.
It's virtually useless if you're playing a mage/archer character. It's OK if you're playing a melee character, it's still extremely easy to get enemies out of invisibility by hitting them with an AOE attack
I'm not sure, but I think some weapons abilities are meant to interact with specific monster abilities. Like, I found a hacksaw that interacts with a "Surgeon" class skill ability to use a special attack. As far as I can tell the weapon doesn't provide that skill and I don't know if you can acquire it.
>a fucking buff that doesn't work most of the time
i have 80 hrs on my first run and that shit didn't even work on bhaal cultists that like to turn invisible
based on weapons that I'll get later, do I want the sussur dagger or greatsword?
my warlock does some going invisible, miststepping around blasting, shoving and stabbin, and if that could also silence that'd be nice
on the other hand, lazel does a lot more full on melee attacking, and always silencing with that would be nice too
either choice seems good, but the main thing I don't like is that those are my only two dagger and GS characters, so nobody to hand-me-down if I find something better 5 minutes later
Okay and it's weird that they put it in. See how this works? I'm not going to stop making fun of it just because of your autistic, illiterate babblings about 'ppl'.
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Type like a human, you fucking moron. How do you get the nerve, assaulting people's eyes with that garbage formatting?
even worse than that this anon is asking how to minmax his build in an easy singleplayer game.
what a gay
>letting Volo pick out your eye is good >jamming as many bugs into your brain as possible is good >long resting as much as possible is good >letting a goblin hag brand you is good
Consequences for your actions? Not in belgium
>letting a goblin hag brand you is good
it's to weird that this interaction is important enough to give you a "branded" tag, yet I only got two use it once or twice.
Why is no one talking about the fact that the Emperor was bullshitting and Balduran is apparently still alive handing out on a street corner in the ending
Why do you retards act like a king on his throne when you post about flaws but then every time it isn't even a plot hole, you just missed basic details? I really hate this board.
>Does the petrified dwarf in the hag’s lair ever show up again? He just fucked off and I never saw him again
huh? He lives? to be fair I only un petrified him in the greenlight pre full release but I thought his whole curse is that he has a wasting illness so the petrification stopped him from dying, unpetrifying him had him crumble to death in front of the player if I remember right
I don't play a lot of wrpgs. The only other warpigs I've played are ME and KOTOR.
I like that the game has a morality meter that affects what choices and decisions you make, just like ME and KOTOR. Except instead of being tied to an arbitrary red/blue meter, it's tied to your inability to stop simping for characters.
I was going to play evil and mean and side with the goblins until I met karlach. From that point on every decision in the game was >*desperate for pussy voice* o-of course i'll be nice to the newspaper kid karlach. >of course i'll eat this meat on the ground because you find it funny karlach >of course i'll buy this stupid beer karlach >of course i'll do everything i can do keep this blacksmith alive just so you won't burst into flames karlach >of course i'll save wyll's father and sell my bro wyll into devil slavery so you won't burst into flames karlach
and so on
very cool. i plan on doing a laezel simp run next.
See when you post cherrypicked shit like this how am I supposed to take you seriously? You have to go out of your way to get into that situation, like 3-4 dialogue options of wanting to do it. You are such a fucking pathetic, disingenuous moron.
You're literally an immortal, endlessly regenerating zombie in PS:T. That's a far cry from being a random human when it comes to body mutiliation experiments.
>just let me cherry pick bro
ok. you have a fucking worm in your head and that's going to desecrate your very existence. wouldnt make sense to let players remove under seemingly desperate measures? >That's a far cry from being a random human when it comes to body mutiliation experiments.
op's gay point is nearly as stupid as wheelchairs existing in fantasy settings when you think about it
>Hey anon, I have a plan to remove that worm from your head
Ok, Volo, I am desperate >I'm going to set you on fire, and then when all your flesh is burned away, the maggot will be dead
AM DESPERATE OK
It's not a strawman in response to your argument that you should be willing to let someone take an icepick to your brain to solve the same problem.
But it would be pretty cool if you weren't a gay.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's not a strawman
it is. you dont even know what an argument lmao. retard, you just posted a fucking statement, followed by an equally dumb comparison, and expect people to interpret on why its bad.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Everyone who disagrees with me on an anonymous forum is the same person.
A sure sign of a towering intellect.
Nothing precludes a statement from being an argument.
"You are a stupid cunt" for example. Unless you accept it as truth?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>A sure sign of a towering intellect.
k
retard took a reductionist approach to compare situations. clearly you didnt even watch the game's premise
Anyway, why was getting a reward out of this situation bad? i mean your queerface can at least articulate that right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
A lobotomy is not the same as setting someone on fire.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>not a strawman in response to your argument
You write like a massive fag
>I'm going to set you on fire, and then when all your flesh is burned away, the maggot will be dead
You'e not grasping the situation. This doesn't work. You can burn to ash in the game, be revived and your magic worms revive with you.
I'm so impressed by people who are experts on these games and manage to build ultra effective builds. Meanwhile there's me, who just take things I think are good. oh well, seems to work most of the time but I will never get through fights as flawlessly as some people.
Uh, 90% of the time it's some fag who looked it up. Like all these warlock multiclass builds - it is bugged as the only class that stacks extra attack with other multiclasses. 5e is literally designed to prevent this which is why you cannot do it with any other combination. There is literally no way they could've known to build for that without looking it up. They're all mega gays who are unable to think for themselves, not innovators.
Or you could just be me who likes games where builds are like the whole point or a main draw. Never played DnD shit and I saw Warlock and just new it was gonna be bonkers. Saw Pact of the Blade at level 2 and was getting hyped for what was possible. Level 5 made me want to try so much shit because I love Spellblade types and EBlast is so fucking cool. Then I saw my fighter got Warmagic at 7 and had to mix the two into one build. Now I literally can't finish my game in Act3 because once again I just want to try builds out so I can plan out teams and progess for future replays where I just fight everything and skip RP shit.
Here, have a build know one has documented as far as I've seen:
Dark Ranger = 2 Warlock, 5 Ranger, 4 Spore Druid
Arcane Synergy Helm to add your Wis to attacks
Warlock 2 for Devilsight
5 Ranger for double attack, collossus slayer, bow proficiency
4 Spore druid for Necrotic Damage per attack while you have the energy shield up
Fire a darkness bow or have the party cast Darkness bow. You're untouchable, have advantage in the darkness, can shoot thrrough and out of the cloud and you won't lose your bonus Spore druid damage and even have reaction attacks. Tons of flavor if you like the WoW Dark Rangers. Lots of gear stacks more ridiculous damage to the build. Last level can be War priest for more attacks maybe?
At level 5 most martials gain an extra attack.
However, for design reasons in 5e none of these stack. So 5 Barb 5 Fighter still only has 2 attacks. 5 Barb 5 Paladin. All 2 attacks per Action, unlike say Fighter 10 who gets 3 attacks.
Pact of the Blade Warlock (which is a spell warlocks get) gives you an extra attack at level 5 to match martial progression, however they forgot to put in the anti-stacking. So you can go, I think the most common is Warlock 5 Paladin 5? and have 3 attacks.
Most cheese builds will do this. It's cancer because as an extra layer of metagame, you're usually F5ing and casting Pact of the Blade before every fight. Sorry this wasn't really quick, but thats what I'm referring to. If someone tells you about their sick Warlock multiclass build they're a cheater who looked up the strongest option.
The engine has some clear limits. Another pain point is the merchant system, which doesn't really work in multiplayer.
Larian actually have extreme passion so they'll probably make a new, better engine with all the BG3 money.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dear lord it's absolute suffering to wait for motherfuckers to shop or take turns trading in multiplayer.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think it's crazy the game can know when you aren't using a Monk Weapon and keep you from getting the MA BA attack
But it can't just know when you are using a pact weapon passively and give you a second attack when multi attacks are already in the game
>I hate fun
The Post
Also, turns out other people can figure shit out on their own and like doing so. Get over it, its not getting patched because its not a bug in the first place. Its not an extra attack. Its an extra attack with the weapon pactbound. Unlike extra attack, you can even get an extra attack at the start of your turn if you swung an opportunity attack with the pact weapon. Its also fucking great with Warmagic on a 7 Fighter / 5 Warlock since EB is the coolest cantrip and you normally can only swing once more with a Bonus action with Warmagic. Lots of cool interactions thanks to pact weapon.
You have to "cast" pact of the blade in bg3? That's stupid and probably why they fucked it up.
You just have to cast it once after long rest, not all the time. If you change your weapon, you'd have to remember to bound the new weapon, but its for free and you should be smart enough to know to do it out of combat so you dont waste an action.
The only class that can Extra attack twice is Fighter with Improved Extra attack at lvl 11.
Even if you multiclass two classes, their Extra attack doesnt stack and the game tells you this.
Warlock level 3 gets three choices, one of which is Pact of the Blade, which is upgraded at level 5 to give whatever weapon you 'pact bond' with an extra attack.
Turns out this stacks when multiclassing other martial classes with their regular Extra attack trait. Warlock itself has some really good bonuses that make it great for multiclassing already, too. Paladin can add their Cha Ability mod to their weapon 3x thanks to this, Oathbreaker, and Arcane Synergy, AND have 3 weapon attacks.
Don't know if its actually a bug to be patched since it still works after two main patches and its the bonus attack is only used on the 'pact bound' weapon whereas Extra attack works on all attacks Unarmed, Weapon, Range Weapon, Throw, etc.
Bonus does, yeah. I don't think Pact weapon bonus does. It says in red letters "Pact weapon bonus attack" or something to clarify where its coming from. Could be wrong. Even more busted if it lets you attack with anything other than the weapon thats bound.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I threw 3 times on my 7 Paladin/5 Warlock
Random shit too, like grease bottle, teddy bear, and a cup or something
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Take your word for it and apologize for thinking it works the other way. Its probably because I just swing my big Charisma dick around since I just cast EB with Daredevil and then bonk with the Arcane Synergy ring doubling up Cha bonus. Never bother with using a different weapon or throwing shit. Also Devilsight + Darkness is OP all game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It SHOULD work the other way though.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think it also does though. Like I said, I got an extra attack at the start of my turn when I had just taken an opportunity attack from Sentinel. It said "Pactbound extra attack" in red under it iirc.
actually I know about it because people like you make posts like this in these threads.
if you hate metagaming so much, maybe stop proliferating all the tricks.
That is the first time I have ever posted about it mr. double moron, and it's because someone went out of their way to ask me. For a "gotcha!" attempt you failed pretty miserably.
so what? it's still the truth. I know tavern brawler is overpowered because in every thread somebody says "tavern brawler is overpowered". I know about the warlock extra attack thing because people constantly bring it up. You don't have to deliberately look up the best builds to know this stuff, you have to deliberately avoid all discussion of the game to not know it.
Replying to you is a complete waste of my fucking time. Why would I ever do that. You hate a great game, well that's unfortunate for you but to be honest I'm glad because your constant seething in this thread is irritating. You are an embarrassment.
>Gets his opinions from youtubers
God, I fucking hate this board. The random reference to the foot kissing scene was the giveaway you have never even played the game have you? Fucking animal
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>>Gets his opinions from youtubers
Dismissive reply.
bg3 writing and gameplay is garbage
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It means that I know more of gaming than any of you wimps here
bg3 is garbage and I played as a elf fighter before launch
Codextrannies are so cringe
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Damn, Wojak posters really are just sewer maggots.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>not a single point >not a single number >not a single pic >not a single gaming badge
typical bg3 defender, probably haven't even played the game past ilthid nautiloid
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>>not a single number >>not a single pic >>not a single gaming badge
is this what you consider "points"?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
show your numbers then, your saves, you achieves, your characters
simple as
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
cain already talked about how ToEE was unfinished so i guess we can disregard your posts.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Indeed was unfinished
And had better gameplay than bg3
Interesting how dismissive you people are
I DMed toee ten years ago, great module
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And had better gameplay than bg3
much worse actually. >I DMed toee ten years ago, great module
im surprised you even have friends lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>im surprised you even have friends lmao
A bunch.
I created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls).
Still play with the same friends for over a decade
We will make a Descent into Avernus but everyone is an aasimar paladin from the bible
And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
Also, again empty reply smelling of cope.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are the cringe my man
have a nice day before it gets worse
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're losing badly zoom zoom, keep digging that hole. At least you have bear cock to suck.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls). >Still play with the same friends for over a decade >We will make a Descent into Avernus but everyone is an aasimar paladin from the bible >And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
you did none of those things. and even if you did 1/10 of it, you can only embellish and exaggerate it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
"N-No you didn't"
Desperate, absolutely reeling.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>y-yes i did
cope, seethe, mald
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not even the same person I'm just laughing at you projecting your worthlessness and lack of creativity and follow through onto others.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
why are you telling me this? are you a FAG?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Going through the effort of inspect element editing
Holy fuck how mad can one gay be?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
woah calm down queer
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I am demonstrating how assblasted I am by taking the time to do an edit, screen cap it, and respond to everything
Understood have a nice transition.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
based gay. dont miss your next HRT order!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good luck since china cracked down on your supply.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
wow. you sure do know a lot about HRT. ill make sure to contact gays like you next time!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aw no inspect element edit? You getting tired? Winded? Blood feeling a little clotty? : )
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
vaxx bros . . .
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aw you do care enough to keep your lazy schtick up! I guess you only got one booster. : )
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you know the vaxx leads to brain damage right? maybe those shots had consequences!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wait are we actually lowkey agreeing about shit that is a big deal at this point and we're disagreeing on shit that doesn't even matter like video games which are WEF distractions.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
why yes. i do think you're a gay. glad we agreed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Alright since we're in agreement about vaccines what do you think of this BS push with the new variant since we're no longer participating in the Ganker culture.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
traps are gay btw.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls).
lol >And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
lmao even
Sweet smell of fear
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
its cool you buy modules and never play them
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the desperation goes on
Also I don't buy. I don't give WotC money.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i mean it's cool you collect resources for shit you're never going to play. but i think it makes you look like a poser.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
meh you just sound pathetic now
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
concession accepted. looks i won:)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>every story I write is less cringe! >buys an official module and doesn't write anything
No anon, you are the cringe.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>buys
You people are just showing how low IQ you are.
Also explain how running an official module prohibits me from writing?
You are so angry that you got blow the fuck out.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you can write a better story than official material why do you need modules?
You printed out the cover of the module book? Seems like a major waste of color ink.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lets see how long we take to make this autistic lardass cry
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It seems like everyone who thinks that anyone can be creative or put effort into things are already crying crocodile tears.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls).
lol >And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
lmao even
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>reddit space
I believe you actually did create the main hub for D&D, you dumb janny.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, he was dismissing you, and with good reason; you get your opinion from youtubers instead of making up your own mind. Pointing that out isn't a reply.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>From youtuber >Disregarding the fact said youtuber worked with the team on the fucking game
LMAO ACTUAL STATE OF BG3 FAN IQs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Indeed. The rich youtuber that shilled the game for years said that the game he loves is incomplete.
Interesting isn't it?
they actually played the game and made up their own minds instead of listening to someone else like fucking cattle. go mingle with the herd and chew some cud retard
Whatever happened to thinking for yourself?
Why are you referencing someone else? Aren't you able to articulate any issues with the game yourself? I can't help but notice that you doomer morons never say a single thing about the game that wasn't vague shit like "It's bad" or "It's pozzed" or "Zoomers like it"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>BG3 defenders now in panic that even the guy that shilled the game so much and voiced a npc said the game is unfinished
Very interesting rection...
>>Gets his opinions from youtubers
Dismissive reply.
bg3 writing and gameplay is garbage
>for its gameplay
exaclty
bg3 (and larian) writing is garbage
>empty reply
as expected
bg3 is garbage
actual gamer here
bg3 is garbage
>zero arguments presented >appeals to authority (linking some youtuber) >hasn't even mentioned a single event, character, or gameplay moment in the game >keeps posting his playtime in other games
It couldn't be more obvious that you haven't played BG3, which makes me wonder what the fuck you're doing. Do you just like the attention? Dumbfuck. Last reply your shitty bait gets from me.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It means that I know more of gaming than any of you wimps here
bg3 is garbage and I played as a elf fighter before launch
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are, of course correct, but the anon you are arguing with was -20 years old when PS:T was released and a steady diet of state propoganda and judaic media has completely stunted his mind and sense of artistic taste.
I mean, when you solidly fuck up so many games in a row you have to just concede that they are trash
People laud their games as such an amazing product when they could be SO MUCH BETTER if they werent just fucking bad devs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>when you solidly fuck up so many games in a row
Your flopping is palpable.
Show your numbers
bg3 is garbage
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Based NWN enjoyer. Do you play vanilla or with PRC, and do you prefer NWN Diamond or NWN2 MOTB?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Vanilla, then did all dlcs but no mods. Only a couple of changes to be more 3.5 instead of shit 3.0
Also had terrible bugs with NWN2 involving the companion AI. It ruined the experience for me. Still finished and its less cringe than bg3
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>retarded retard cant even read
shocking
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Still no numbers, facts or receipts
Lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>retarded retard is schizoid too
Did your mother play rugby while she was pregnant?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Rugby
LMAO
FUCKING YUROPOOR OR UKUCK TOO LMAO NO WONDER YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID, CONQUERED PEASANT MOTHERFUCKER HAHAHA
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Ztard
Tick tock, kurva.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Muh russian boogieman >Outing yourself as a fucking polak
Imagine the drunker dumber version of slavs bombing you by accident, refusing to apologize to you (The worthless poles) and then sucking their dicks for it... Pathetic, lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're either a Ztard or a Zwhore, you're gutter trash either way, you and the rest of the balding boomers licking BG2's balls got buckbroken by a bear, tick tock. This is Larian's era.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Post middle eastern laughing terrorist and mock eurotrash >The buck broken pole screams in horror at the IMAGINED russian boogieman
Rent fucking free for life, also you are polish there is literally nothing I can type that would be more insulting.
Your single solitary "contribution" to this thread was a cherrypicked screenshot of the Crusher scene. Someone called you a retard and you spammed "goalpost moving! no argument!"
Now you're strutting around like you won an intellectual debate. You need to have a nice day ASAP.
How can a (sub)human say nobody plays Larian games for the gameplay lmao
Every Larian game goes: great worldbuilding>amazing story setup>liters of liquid shit as soon as you get to the middle of the story
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Every Larian game goes: great worldbuilding>amazing story setup
Objectively false
>first run is blind evil warlock male gnome >second run will be human male paladin moralfag
I think that does complete almost everything, right? I like to start as bad because otherwise you will feel really bad, done the same in mass effect
The game has really weird alignments on what is good and bad. Guess it's the brain disease of being a libcuck. >releasing 7000 vampire spawns is good >killing them all with the plan to kill astorian later just like how you killed cazador is bad
Baldur's Gate 3 is an order of magnitudes more complex than any of the Black Isle games, Pathfinder games, or Bioware games.
There is simply no arguing over this.
Narratively, there is much more choice and consequence.
Graphically, the 3d engine is superior to any of the other games.
The combat is more complex and factors in locational and object manipulation, with combining status effects. This is, again, objectively more complex than the preceding combat systems of BG and other games, which are simply based on principles of statistical manipulation and bad luck minimization.
This gameplay is the future, there will be no more throwing dozens of trashmob encounters to waste the player's time as a substitute encounters for carefully chosen combat that requires careful planning and situational awareness
You may not like it, you may think this is too easy, but this is what Peak performance role-playing looks like.
I like the Larian engine too, so I'd agree the combat and physics are great, but the narrative is a complete illusion.
You'll realise that about halfway through act 2, the game has gone from a spiderweb of choice to a tunnel where every option has the same outcome. It's unfortunate, the game is actually inferior to DOS2 their last creation - and I think the 3D flash is the only reason they're getting attention.
It's actually good? I find it difficult to believe they could capture the insanity of high level play in a videogame. When I can teleport around making armies, setting up resurrection or clone contingencies and make my own demiplane there are no problems that should not be solvable. How could there be stakes with mythic progression? How can there even be a narrative unless they tie my hands with a bunch of bullshit?
The reason I haven't played it is because it would constantly have that feeling like in a FPS when you find a low obstacle you should be able to jump over, but can't because it's an invisible wall.
>carefully chosen combat that requires careful planning and situational awareness
I genuinely dont know if you havent played the game or are just retarded
You need to know who Volo is to appreciate the scene. He's an extreme midwit wizard, who does everything incompetently but somehow it all works out since he's one of Mystra's favorites.
>when you solidly fuck up so many games in a row
Your flopping is palpable.
Show your numbers
bg3 is garbage
>Less than half of BG3 chuds have even completed the first act
>combat >graphics >combat again >THIS IS A REAL RPG
Kid...
why are you so desperate for attention? what mental illness causes this? either play the game or don't, there's no need to start flinging your feces on public forums like an angry baboon
Anon please, this place was full of end game act 3 spoilers like 20 hours after 1.0 released because of how autistic we are about playing video games.
The normies that bought it and quit playing it after like an hour are the ones that didn't beat act 1, not turbo autists on Ganker.
>why are you so desperate for attention? what mental illness causes this? either don't play the game or do, there's no need to start flinging your feces on public forums like an angry baboon.
>letting Volo pick out your eye is good >jamming as many bugs into your brain as possible is good >long resting as much as possible is good >letting a goblin hag brand you is good
Consequences for your actions? Not in belgium
>Let Hag do her thing on my eye which gives me a permanent debuff where you can't crit >Vovo icepicks that same eye out and removes the hag permanent debuff while also giving me a permanent see invis buff
Absolutely based.
Really? Damn, I tried that and the only option I had was something along the lines of >I only have one good eye left; don't do it!
And then he fucked off from camp.
>see boss monster >see minions around him >prep spells, cast buffs, and send in alert melee leader >Surprised! Rest of team spaces out until end of round 2
This is so stupid.
It is really, really stupid.
You know what's even worse? When they summon something that also gets 2 full turns before you get to act. Surprise is fucking retarded in this game and a genuine flaw, unlike the autistic story ragebaiting that is muddying the waters.
I don't get how sneaking works, sometimes it's like I'm not even there and other times the enemies detect me like I'm wearing neon Spandex, even if I stay out of their sight cones
Heres how to use stealth attacks - the right way.
Get 2 levels in Warlock. Get Devilsight, pick Darkness as your spell.
Cast Darkness. You now are invincible and get advantage on attacks.
Sneaking in this game sucks ass, I fully and whole heartedly suggest running rogues with the underdog gauntlets or running something that can reliably give itself invis.
This is the only guy that survived the goblins and he apparently does this shit all the time. He's such a mastermind his plan all along was getting captured.
He's a legendary scholar that knows about squids.
You've been spending your days getting your eyes shot out with arrows and healing them right up anyway. If you're roleplaying someone afraid of getting hurt you shouldn't for example fight goblin camps full of archers either.
This is an interesting, small reward for high risk.
Worthless ability
The only place you need it is for the levers in Ramizeth's Tower >but muh invisible enemies
literally cast AoE, half of them go invisible and fucking stand there
Having one detect invisibility is worthless
If they pass their save you will never see them
You can easily knock them out of invisibility if you're not blind
You get a shitty eye
>Me >Didn't like Baldur Gate 3 >Decided to play it with a cheat engine >Max out stats to 30 >Start off at level 12 >Set dice to always land on 20. >Playing an edgelord assassin >Criminal background >Insane >Just killing everyone >Killed Astarion and Lah'zul right away >Can't kill Gale cause bomb >Haven't killed Wyll yet but working on it >If the game gives me the option to ATTACK someone I usually select it >Killed the Zhantarian mercenaries after agreeing to help them >Sometimes I help people and then betray them immediately afterward >Killed the Tyr Paladins >Pick INTIMIDATION dialogue usually to scare people, if not outright kill them. >Kill merchants, if I can get away with it, and steal all their shit >Pickpocket people >When they confront me I kill them >Just watch people die or refuse to help sometimes
I'm probably missing out on a lot of stuff by killing everyone, right? I figured it locks you out of a lot of quests/scenes. I might do a lawful good run or something where I'm just a lollipop candy ass gay who helps everyone and lets people spit in my face. Also I'm kind of afraid to use the tadpoles, but anons said there really aren't any downsides and I guess if you're playing an edgelord then it makes sense to use them for power and darkness blah blah blah.
You gotta go ALL or nothing, why RP as a murder/criminal if you're just not going to murder everyone? You gotta commit to the role, it's boring if you only murder them given the situation. I'm not buying shit with gold, just kill the fucking merchant and take his stuff. Fuck him.
A lot of people in the game tend to threaten you and pick fights with you, so in a way it's justified in murdering them. They usually threaten you first and want to act tough.
I don't care.
I just think you're a retard for asking if you get locked out of a bunch of quests if you just kill everyone you come across.
Fucking obviously you're going to be locked out of a bunch of quests if the first thing you do is kill everyone instead of talking to them and seeing if they have anything for you to do, or keeping them alive in case you might have to come back to them for a quest later on.
Yeah, it does, when the game is garbage. Dice rolls tend to fail most times, even with karmic dice turned off. The game actively works against the player and doesn't seem fair most of the time. You start off the an INCREDIBLE MISS RATE most of your attacks will never land until you get to like level 4-5 or so, and enemies hits ALWAYS land. Even when playing a high dodge rate/defense character, your chance to dodge/block is awful in the game.
Maybe setting everything to max was a bit overkill, I could have just maxed out my constitution or agility I guess so at least I wouldn't have to worry about taking hits so often, or if anything I could have started at level 1, and just started off with maxed stats in everything else, at least this way I get some sense of progression by still being able to level up.
Starting the game at max level is a bit boring since you can't level up any further and you essentially removed all sense of progression by being essentially a god at the very start of the game who can just one shot everyone.
Explorer difficulty doesn't make the dice rolls anymore fair, but I guess you're right, it'd make combat brain-dead easy at least.
I just hate the game relies on a dice rolling mechanic, I get it, but it sucks when you fail at a dice roll on something, though I guess that's suppose to give the player the sense of failure, like "Hey, you WANT to do this action, but there is a chance you might not be able to do it, so do you risk the consequences if you fail?" And you have to make that choice. It also helps out more with the roleplaying aspect, as a wizard or someone with low strength, won't be able to do strength based rolls, and you wouldn't expect your wizard to be able to do something STR related.
That's part of rolls, yes, but the main reason rolls exist is for tabletop roleplaying. There it is an opportunity for skill expression, because you use the random result to help yourself tell a story.
Adapting it to a videogame 1:1 is fucking retarded, but Larian know better because they didn't really have dice rolls in Divinity OS2. I think it was part of the licensing agreement with WOTC to shill D&D 5e as a system.
I swear miss chance goes up on Tactician by like 10% or something.
There are so many ways to up your hit chance that you should really be at 75% minimum once you get past level 5. You also have spells that I think autohit like Chain Lightning or AoEs and still do half damage on save.
There's also numerous debuffs and buffs to raise your hit chance via spells or oils.
>You start off the an INCREDIBLE MISS RATE most of your attacks will never land until you get to like level 4-5 or so, and enemies hits ALWAYS land.
I had the opposite experience, mycharacter was routinely dodging arrows from half a dozen enemies
show your numbers then, your saves, you achieves, your characters
simple as
>not a single point >not a single number >not a single pic >not a single gaming badge
typical bg3 defender, probably haven't even played the game past ilthid nautiloid
>I've played OTHER GAMES than BG3, therefore BG3 is bad
What kind of logic is this and why do you keep returning to it? You haven't played BG3.
>people wont bother posting random screenshots so they dont have real proof of... something
Anon when your mom told you you are special, she meant fucking retarded
If I wanted to do like a lawful good run/character, what's the best good two shoes party to accompany my character? I'm guessing Wyll, Gale, and Shadowheart? Lah'zul is too edgy and mean, figured Gale and Wyll are more paragon types, and Shadowheart I guess is kind of neutral in her moral compass.
Karlach, and shes hilarious. Fun and 'quirky' without being full reddit. No "did I just do that?" lines but brings some nice positivity and charm to all the doom and gloom. Blunt, fun, and hot-headed compliment to a more nerdy or cool-minded Tav.
>she hilarious >Skewers skulls with a trident that returns to her hand >starts dancing
Yes, anon. I was laughing all game thanks to her. I found her irresistibly charming.A girl out for my heart.
It's sad how nowadays, once every 4-5 years we'll get one (1) game that clearly outclasses everything else in its category with the amount of care and work that went into making it, and still Ganker will go batshit insane and find any way possible to shit on it just because it's what it does. Like you're so fucking used to games being shit, you stopped recognizing good, old style games when they come along.
It's a great game, anons. Just enjoy it ffs. With the amount of outright terrible games you get, seize the opportunity to just have fun with the one that's actually good for fucking once.
what makes this game better than others? whats really different? that you get the 1 dialogue that makes sense, and 3 other dialogue choices that lead to an immersion breaking meme moment for retarded streamers to market the game, and then immediately go back into the A-story with no consequence or acknowledgement whatsoever of that odd thing that the character just made?
Better compared to what?
The game as it is offers lots of entertainment, an interesting story, good game mechanics, good combat, good graphics.
I't doesn't have any microtransactions, lootboxes or battle passes.
The Devs actually try to fix their mistakes and the modding scene is active.
And it has cute girls
>Better compared to what?
i dont know, you said that. thats what im asking you, better compared to what other game? >The game as it is offers lots of entertainment, an interesting story, good game mechanics, good combat, good graphics.
thats literally every game. >I't doesn't have any microtransactions, lootboxes or battle passes.
things that dont affect gameplay >The Devs actually try to fix their mistakes and the modding scene is active.
literally every game nowadays is released half-baked. thats industry standard. modding is not appropriate for every game genre, but usually people are able to mod any game that's not an MMO >And it has cute girls
coomer bait is part of every game, not that that's a positive.
The voice acting + motion cap is why normies love this game. Same reason why they also like movie games.
literally every game has mocap and VA.
>And it has cute girls
saving western gaming from fable 4-esque uggos
this alone means it deserves praise
oh, thats what you meant by pretty girls. fair enough, +1 for BG3
>literally every game has mocap and VA.
No other CRPG has it that i can think of. Only shit like Cod
>the latter half degrades quickly from unfinished to the worst shit you've ever played
a lot of crpgs do this and they quit praised quite heavily here
I think this is wrong. Pathfinder: WOTR is better in almost every way, yet it'd never get normie appeal because (ignoring that it uses a much more complex ruleset of course) it lacks voice-acting for every single line and has no motion-cap convos.
The dialogue system is too dated. The game might be better, but if I want to read descriptions of how someone's physical actions I will go read a book instead.
"Much more complex"? The only real difference between Pathfinder and D&D is a larger amount of content existing for PF.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Dnd 5e is as complex as Pathfinder
kek, okay buddy. 5e has like 10 total feats and 4 classes. miss me with that gay shit
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes more content. So more feat options. Would you really call that complexity, dude? Jesus.
They're almost word for word identical systems.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>DnD 5e player's handbook size: 36 pages >Pathfinder 1e rulebook size: 311 pages >total feats for all classes and all levels in 5e: 23 >total feats avaiable to level 1 Fighter in PF 1e: 37 >total classes in DnD: 9 >total WITCH subclasses in PF: 9 >number of spells you can concentrate on at a time in dnd: 1 >pathfinder: unlimited
spell amounts: DND: 41, PF: 613
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
how many of those feats, classes, subclasses, spells, etc. are actually worthwhile? you and i both know they never go out of their way to make sure they are utilized well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>how many of those feats, classes, subclasses, spells, etc. are actually worthwhile?
That's the beauty, I'd say 70%, and maybe 20% are situational and the remaining 10 are for RP purposes.
Look man, I know. I prefer Pathfinder. I just think calling it complex is a joke, I mean you just autistically stack +1s until you can kill god.
Having a well designed party is what allows you to kill gods in Pathfinder, party comp doesn't really matter in 5e tbh. There is no real depth, just my opinion.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well designed party? Literally nothing beats cleric-wizard-rogue-fighter, thats why every module is designed for that exact composition (explicitly stated by Paizo). Sorry you fell for the half caster meme.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>cleric-wizard-rogue-fighter
Maybe if you're running a baby-tier campaign with a "bro" DM, but then you're not killing gods. A mythic one that's been cranked up, that takes a party.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
that combination of 4 BTFOs whatever cringe multiclass you came up with
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Look man, I know. I prefer Pathfinder. I just think calling it complex is a joke, I mean you just autistically stack +1s until you can kill god.
I dropped wotr immediately because every line in the part I played was voice acted horribly and the dialogue was terrible.
maybe it gets better, but just judging by the intro the game is a legit 4/10.
>Pathfinder: WOTR is better in almost every way
and this game clearly goes to shit halfway through, from a narrative and gameplay standpoint.
forced to restart the already shitty empire management over
side quests have less and less reactivity to them as you progress through them.
some dungeons might as well have been deleted from the game.
Alushinyrra might as well be on fucking rails. trashing the open world you had for some shitty city.
certain paths are completely lacking in content compared to others.
etc. >ignoring that it uses a much more complex ruleset of course
outside of the character building, which is probably the only thing the game manages to capture from pathfinder well, it's a BG clone through and through and has plenty of casual appeal. >normie
just stop being a pussy and say normalfag >it lacks voice-acting for every single line and has no motion-cap convos.
so? the voice acting was probably one of the few redeeming qualities the characters had in WOTR. because their motivations and writing take a nose dive in their quests.
i swear CRPG tards cherrypick the games they like lol. there's so many games praised on here that are 'unfinished' and they're almost exclusively RPG games. the standards just arbitrarily shift to games they dislike for whatever retarded reason.
Better than what?
The only thing you can really compare it fairly are other CRPGs and at a minimum it is obviously better than DA:2, DA:I, and ME:A.
I hate RTWP with a passion so it's combat is automatically better than KotOR, KotOR2, NWN, NWN2, and DA:O.
Even if you like RTWP, both KotOR games have shit combat, I would say the same applies to both NWN games, and I can at least see how someone would enjoy DA:O's combat.
None of those games have meaningful exploration (this includes the ME series) or environmental interaction.
Even if you prefer RTWP the amount of options you have when it comes to approaching combat scenarions in BG3 is dramatically greater.
The writing is certainly not worse than NWN, NWN2, DA:2, or DA:I. I think it's better than KotOR because KotOR is a generic Star Wars story with a fucking M. Night twist.
There are maybe 1-3 actually memorable companions in each of those games and Lae'zel is absolutely up there with Bastila, Morrigan, Garrus, etc. She is admittedly the only one on that level.
TLDR: People overrated the fuck out older CRPGs due to nostalgia and political BS. RTWP is trash.
finally an intelligent post. >The only thing you can really compare it fairly are other CRPGs and at a minimum it is obviously better than DA:2, DA:I, and ME:A.
sure. but the bar to surpass those dogtrash disasters is pretty low. we're saying it's good here, we're not saying it's not as bad as this horrible garbage. >I hate RTWP with a passion
opinion is not a fact, but i agree with you on that. but comparing apples to oranges isnt fair. >Even if you like RTWP, both KotOR games have shit combat,
because of the d20 aspect? its definitely more simplistic, but this game doesnt hold a candle to Xcom >KotOR is a generic Star Wars story with a fucking M. Night twist.
at least it tries >Lae'zel
if you like rude women, sure. i dont like people giving me attitude in video games and having to just take like a doormat. its a video game, where is my power fantasy? and the fact that only 1 out of 9 companion is great for you speaks volumes >None of those games have meaningful exploration (this includes the ME series) or environmental interaction.
fair enough.
>literally every game has mocap and VA.
No other CRPG has it that i can think of. Only shit like Cod
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I think this is wrong. Pathfinder: WOTR is better in almost every way, yet it'd never get normie appeal because (ignoring that it uses a much more complex ruleset of course) it lacks voice-acting for every single line and has no motion-cap convos.
i can concede that its the best CRPG to come out in a while
>except i never pick the volo option and i usually dont even rescue him
So...whats the problem here exactly?
the writing for that quest is retarded. and its a cancer that is infecting the entire game, but this quest specifically is a shining example of it. the metaphorical breaking bad moment for cancerous game direction. i think i made it pretty clear multiple posts ago. keep up, buddy.
>thats literally every game.
have a nice day troll
just because you dont like shooters, doesnt mean the gameplay for COD isnt good. doesnt mean the story isnt interesting. doesnt mean the mechanics aren't creative. GTA V is like one of the most played games. moreso than this. there are more games in the world than DnD based RPGs, you know this, right? you're the one who's mentally retarded if you think that other AAA games dont reach a threshold of standard. if you want to talk about indie trash, then you are being disingenuous.
>and its a cancer that is infecting the entire game,
But you yourself destroyed your own argument when you said that you CHOSE not to experience that part of the game retard. >doesnt mean the gameplay for COD isnt good. doesnt mean the story isnt interesting. doesnt mean the mechanics aren't creative
MW2019 had an interesting new take on the MW story but II just fucked it up because the got overexcited and just tried to redo the Old MW again but failed.
Most jaded comment of Ganker this month. Get off this site for a good 3, for your own sake even.
Its basically "YOU GET THE ONE DIALOGUE THAT I WOULD PICK AND THE OTHER THREE ARE CLEARLY WOKESHIT BECAUSE I HAVENT PLAYED THE GAME BEFORE SO IT MUST BE SOME KIND OF THING I HATE AND THEREFORE ITS FOR MONEY BECAUSE CORPOS AM I RIGHT FELLAS? I AM SILLY"
Why not just fucking play videogames and have fun? Yes, the writing in a video game is unsurprisingly not compelling. Go read a fucking book prior to this century for some meaningful story. The combat is fun, the music is great, the build variety and party comboing is excellent, theres broken OP shit in a singleplayer that doesnt need a fucking balance patch, theres hilarious dialogue checks, stupid mechanics like rolling dice for meme moments, and quickreloading if you hate it, theres Astarion and Karlach for goofy replays, theres Shart and Wyll and Gale or taking the silly story seriously, theres Dark Urge for another unique spin. Theres a lot to like and replay for, but just skip it because Ganker is the home for contrarians and you've allowed it to infect your brain.
There seems to be a good portion of Ganker's population that can't tolerate something not going their way. These are the people making these dumb criticisms.
Yeah for sure, there are options to be evil not just in murderhobo way but what people today would consider morally evil/politically incorrect. But the surface level of 'oh...there are gay characters and shit' turns people off I think
>3 grills and Gale
Based. My Tav was a warlock grill, too. Was using Gale as the MC and then I realized I could've just made him the Origin MC and plugged in a controller to make an OC waifu.
it's a 7 at best and only for 1/2 the game
the latter half degrades quickly from unfinished to the worst shit you've ever played
most of act 1+2 are pretty decent but everything else is so bad you might as well quit instead of playing it, it will be years before it's maybe semi-finished and there are THOUSANDS of better games you could play before this one
depends what you mean by crpg
if you mean game that mimics d&d then just BG2, they don't release many D&D "crpgs" period
I haven't rated pathfinder because I haven't finished it yet
Does this guy think that an ice pick in the frontal lobe automatically means destroying your eye? Does he think people who had lobotomies done were all half blinded as well?
For all my brothers who got gifted this game and are enduring it to play alongside other friends even though they don't like it.
If you want to be both useful, and also fuck Swen's wife. Here's how you do both. You roll a halfling, subrace doesn't matter. All halflings don't take 1 rolls, and this game no matter your dice settings LOVES to shit on you with 1 in combat and in checks.
Now you become a bard, you stay bard until you can pick lore bard, why lore bard? You choose further how rolls land, you do opposite's day bardic inspirations and fuck up enemy's rolls. This can be their attacks, their DC saving throws, their own spells, a lot of things really. And the game will automatically prompt you when you can alter the outcome of this. At level 4? Take the lucky feat, you get 3 more even more universal rolls of telling the game to gargle your nuts and you decide what you roll. That or warcaster if you are more autistically enraged by losing concentration. Then lucky later.
You'll really come into your own around 5 or 6 where every short rest restores uses of your feature, and lucky will fill in the gaps where it doesn't cover. And magical secrets lets you pick things like spirit guardians to absolutely trivialize act 2 (that or daylight) or warden of vitality so everyone crying for healing you can hit them with a free zero concentration bonus action.
>this game no matter your dice settings LOVES to shit on you with 1 in combat and in checks.
Yes the game itself is specifically doing this to you on purpose
i remember the nat 20s too because it feels like i didnt earn the roll. when i have +10 in a skill check, its kind of a "oh, well all that hard work didnt matter". of course, it feels worse to not get something you wanted (why is a video game like this? if its good, i will replay it with a different path) but this game also manages to make successes feel empty and unsatisfying. seeing a 29 is a lot more satisfying than just getting an instant pass. what am i, a 5 years old playing a mobile p2w game? i dont get stimulation from instant gratification like a tiktok zoomtard. i literally trained myself to not seek instant gratification like a good boy, and now im being punished for being superior to the unwashed masses?
Or just go Zerker Barb + Tavern Brawler at 4 and get lvl 5 for extra attack. Make sure to get 3 levels of Thief Rogue after that so you can throw your weapon or midget/goblin 4 times per turn. 6 if you bloodlust. 8 if your giftor host was kind enough to go Sorc to Twin Haste you and himself. Can't see how you wouldn't have fun throw a midget 8 times every combat turn and later on you have a Thunder Trident to troll your own crew with AoE thunder damage.
this is great, except i hate seeing lucky/portent rolls pop up every time i get a shit roll, which is 50-75% of every action i take in this shit game. but i will play only halfling from now on, now that i know they cant crit fail.
So then make the decision to...not do it?
How is this even a complaint when an RPG gives you choices?
Isn't OP's point that this full retard choice is actually a good one?
You get a free permanent See Invisibility out of this.
Woohoo
I can think of two places where See Invisibility matters
..The entire last 2 acts of the game?
lmao
There's nothing in Act 2 you need See Invisibility for? What?
It's only useful for the Wizard Tower and Free the Artist
temple of shar
yurgir
off the top of my head
Yugir is baby shit. His minions are worse than him.
Use potion of invisibillity on your strength char and push him off the ledge to prone him, then focus him.
There's a few ambushes, all shades can go invisible so that's most of the enemies in the overworld, then a bunch of enemies can just vanish in the temple of Sharr
>I can think of two places where See Invisibility matters
There are multiple spots where it can matter. From the top of my head.
>Duergar ambush
>Dolor
>Gauntlet of Shar
There are probably other places where it matteres but i can't remember them right now.
Duergar invisibility is easy to break with AoE and the fight isn't hard to begin with.
You can stunlock and/or OTK Dolor.
Gauntlet of Shar? Maybe for seeing the path, but I swear that's bugged because I've never not seen it. I always have Darkvision though.
Y'all are fighting Yurgir?
You can help him get out his contract and you can easily ambush him. There's kind of a chokepoint so even if he goes invisible you force him into AoE damage.
This little shit yugir talking shit about me and belittle me so I mist step and 1 shot the bitch in 1 turn.
If you beat him you can then convince him to turn on Raphael in the HoH and join you in the final battle
Same result if you help him
What does it matter? Hope can banish him with 100% chance on turn 1.
Duergar ambush
Shadows
Shart's gauntlet
Fishmen zombie ambush
Dolor
Bank
So you're saying that the game set in Forgotten Realms rewards you for knowing Forgotten Realms lore?
Please quote the exact bit of lore that is relevant to this situation
Not the guy but he's Volo, yes the one and only Volo.
It's fucking Volo, anon.
The guy that has been pretending to be a useless, powerless, bumbling idiot while exploring the entirety of the world for hundreds of years and encountering most powerful figures and some of the deadliest, rarest monsters.
Let's say I did know how he was, because unlike that anon I have heard of him before.
Is there any reason to believe this is gonna lead to you getting a magical eye and not just having one gored out your face?
That explains how the player knows who Volo is, now how does your character? You do avoid making decisions based on meta-knowledge, right anon?
touché
bad dm
Because his player's guides have in-game counterparts. This is like asking how somebody would recognize Stephen King if they bumped into him.
Would you let someone lobotomize you just because they're a famous author?
Volo is literally famous author in Faerun lol.
Oh right of course well in that case it makes perfect sense to trust him with your life completely.
I have no familiarity with dnd lore bit I've seen enough rpgs and heard enough le wacky dnd players to know this would give you a benefit. this kind of wacky irony is so predictable now thanks to marvel movies and normies getting into nerd shit that it would actually be weird if letting some sketchy "haha I lost my medical license here goes nothing XD" doctor operate on you DIDNT give you a good outcome
It's a piece of shit, since invisible enemies usually have dex and with Larian stats, that means they barely ever fail the save.
Can you let Volo take Astarion's eye instead?
It's the enemy making a dex (stealth) check...
>2011+12
>not running a dex build
I shiggy diggy doo
a small but mostly inconsequential bonus hiding behind what is an insane choice at first glance.
where's the problem? if you roleplay you'll probably not get it and not worry about it either.
did they remove the no more crits debuff?
that is only when is the hag doing it.
Hag gives you a glass eye, Volo gives you a high tech eye. You can't take both, sadly. Though it'd be fun to have both your eyes plucked out, Volo won't try if you have a glass eye since it seems like someone already did, and the hag won't take a fake eye
I suddenly remember that BG2 had enemy rogues that actually went invisible and stabbed you in the dick.
meh
That's not a point.
It's meant to be a comical scene. Why do you feel the need to do it? Like, what part of your brain disallows you from roleplaying in a roleplaying game?
>I should only be rewarded by making the most obvious choice.
I think I'm beginning to understand the minds of people who whine about this game.
>Make INT your dump stat because you care more about min-maxxing than roleplaying.
>Make 8 INT decisions.
Many such cases.
>have 8 int
>find that circlet that gives you 17 int
>still take -1 on int rolls because of 8 int
god fucking damn it
It lists your +4 (+3 minus -1) bonus from the circlet right next to that.
I just rolled with it out of morbid curiosity. The prosthetic eye you get was neat.
you can permanently see invisible creatures if you go through with it. he gives you a magical eye for fucking up
The eye doesn't even work half of the time
It forces a dex check to stay invisible so it's always a gamble whether they stay invisible or not.
Wish it was true sight
This, i assumed that this shit was bugged because majority of the time i never seen invisible enemies.
The enemies are probably sneaking, not actually invisible.
Its how detect invis works in dgd, its a check instead of binary yes/no
You just impose a save
And still has no downsides to it.
So 0 downsides
Isn't that a direct Harry Potter ripoff?
I hope you know why this bait was so stupid nobody fell for it
I hope you know you're too stupid to know what bait is
where in harry potter does a guy gouge someone's eye out due to incompetence and apologize with a magic eyeball replacement
>Does Harry Potter have a character who lost his eye and replaced it with a magic one that can see invisible stuff?
>Yes
Thanks for playing, sport.
this moron really thinks harry potter invented the idea of a prosthetic eye enchanted with see invisible
sometimes gambles pay off sometimes they dont
you wont know until you try
if you let the hag fuck with your eye you get a janky dead eye but you get unique dialogues about it and a debuff to PER but a buff to intimidation
>you get unique dialogues about it
No you don't
Not a single person at Hag Survivors Anonymous commented on my fucked eye
One of them even said I looked like a normal guy
it's not good, you lose your eye
Does it actually change the eye color if you do this?
yeah my tief had a fucked up human eye for the rest of the game
yes you get a stone eye if you do this and weird black and white one if you let the hag do her thing
probably the stupidest scene in the game
this dude is actively fucking stabbing you in the eye and your character is still like "oh wow are u sure u are doing that right? xD" and other quips like that
>this dude is actively fucking stabbing you in the eye and your character is still like "oh wow are u sure u are doing that right? xD"
Your character only says quippy shit if you select that dialog choice you moron. I guess you also complain about a bear fucking you after you spent time and effort romancing him.
It was fucking hilarious. At first I thought it was serious, then realized he didn't know what the fuck he was doing, then the ice pick just made me laugh out loud. I kept going along with it just to see how far it would go, glad to see it paid off with a cool looking eye with a free see invisibility spell.
Cute dunmer
Rolled DU with an amnesic drow, who's trying to be good since she doesn't remember her life before anyway. But I got duped into playing a drow, since people said it completely changed how people see you. And besides a very few occasions in act 1 which is mostly flavour text, it hasn't come up.
Still having fun though. Great game so far, very rare I can just enjoy one like this.
based video game enjoyer
>game narrative is completely retarded
>HURR HURR HURR LE SO FUNNY XDDD
oh Swen, you are the developer of our time
You can choose not to ho through with it retard.
Is this such a difficult concept to grasp?
Because he hasn't actually played the game. Almost everything ITT is just saved from other people's playthroughs and memes. It's embarassingly obvious and no amount of samefagging or screenshots of steam achievement progress can change the fact that he doesn't know even the basics of the game, which shines through in every single one of his increasingly vague posts.
I mean, when I played it I let him poke me bu I didn't thogh it out till the end, I just found out about the eye thing today.
>agrees the writing is retarded
>JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME BRO
why do you do this? why do you lower the bar for everyone? do you have stock in Larian Studios?
That's not what he said, at all.
You get SEVEN opportunities to back out of the Volo surgery during it, which you would know if you had even played the scene you're complaining about a SINGLE FUCKING TIME
YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED MAN IT IS SOOOO OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS PLAYED HOW STUPID YOU ARE
This. This gay could not be more obvious, reminds me of the CIA
>agrees with me that the writing is fucktarded
>just happy that some coder somewhere thinks, accurately, that you're a retarded
i mean, enjoy your slop. i have standards.
what makes you think I ever pick this option? i picked it once to try it, thought it was deeply retarded and immersion breaking, never picked it again. but nice attempt at moving the goalpost and misdirection. the fact is, you agree with me that its retarded, but you just accept it because you're a retard.
yes, youre telling me to not play certain parts of the game because they're retaded. like that solves the problem? the writing is retarded regardless of whether or not someone was there to hear it.
just dont read my post if it upsets you, bro. how retarded are you to respond in anger? just dont read my post. problem solved.
what? its literally all the same trope. edgy good guy that accidentally made a deal with a bad guy. literally every companion has no character arc at all, they are all 1-dimensional in the exact same way. Except Shart, which has a change of heart and takes accountability for her own destiny. i dont even have to influence her at all. every other companion is a high-maintenance baby that requires effort on my part to satisfy or solve their problem. Shart just actually contributes to the team: brings the artifact, saves an angel, casts bless/guardian spirits.
>yes, youre telling me to not play certain parts of the game because they're retaded
No, he's saying when an RPG presents you with a variety of responses, pick the one you want instead of complaining about a response you don't like.
thats literally what i do you dumb moron. i can still comment on how retarded the writing is. do you have brain damage?
i think you just figured out that i can criticize writing of a particular quest without picking it every playthrough? how retarded are you? really?
you dont do heavy exercise when fasting, but i think you have me confused with someone else
You haven't commented on anything, you just keep repeating that it is "garbage" but never explain why.
>think you just figured out that i can criticize writing of a particular quest without picking it every playthrough?
I'm actually amazed that you manage to remember to breathe
>NOO YOU CANT CRITICIZE THE WRITING IN THE GAME JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD
why are you still reading my posts? you know you can read and respond to other posts, right? or maybe you can go to a different forum where posts are better?
>why are you still reading my posts?
Because I feed off of your extreme asspain you mouthbreathing mong.
>what makes you think I ever pick this option? i picked it once to try it, thought it was deeply retarded and immersion breaking, never picked it again.
Look everyone, the Brainlord over her managed to figure out how to play RPGs
Why did you respond to my post twice with two different replies?
>the fact is, you agree with me that its retarded, but you just accept it because you're a retard.
Putting words in peoples mouths is a pathetic attempt to look like you're "winning".
I personally think it's a funny little side thing that you may or may not do as you like
I thought you were hitting the gym to do some heavy reps bro?
>Pick A, B, C, D or E
>I don't like E
>Then don't pick that one
>DON'T PICK AT ALL!? SO YOU AGREE THAT ALL OF THIS IS BAD!?
yes, you're saying that it's okay that the writing is retarded, cuz i can just not play the game. then why are you responding to my post? just dont read my post bro, whos forcing you to read my post?
it's been explained above exactly why this quest is retarded
>I can just not play the game
No, he's not saying that.
You realise that in an RPG game like Bg3 you have multiple choices to make?
And it is your perogative to make them, this doesn't mean that you aren't playing the game, it's actually the opposite, you are ROLE PLAYING and picking choices you want to play
yes, everyone knows this. you realize i can criticize the writing of a RPG?
so when you tell me that i dont have to pick the retarded option, you're really just projecting because you chose to respond to the posts you disagree with? except i never pick the volo option and i usually dont even rescue him because his entire charcter is a reddit moment. so you can stop projecting and calling me a "mouthbreathing mong" for the things that you do but i dont actually do. literally youre describing your behavior, ive explained to you multiple times i dont do the volo story so... youre a bit slow
>except i never pick the volo option and i usually dont even rescue him
So...whats the problem here exactly?
>>JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME BRO
I didn't say that buddy, I said that you can choose how to play the game
I know that reading is hard for you so try to take it slow.
Also anger is bad for you.
The writing is good in the sense that it avoids common tropes in characterization, people act like real humans (the proof is how much it makes incel a seethe), and dangerous medical experiments based on bunk science aren’t historically inaccurate.
>don't pick that option if you don't want to
>WHAT? DON'T EVER PLAY ANY OF THE GAME!? AH HA, I SHOWED YOU
????
It's like one of.those retards that get mad that their character turned gay after deliberately clicking every gay dialogue option in the game.
It's because they never played
It is so easy to influence these mongs who spend 24 hours a day on Ganker instead of playing games
You post a screenshot the idea that it is optional content will not even occur to them
>Bg3 making chuds seethe for three years now
man I kinda sorry I missed out on BG threads before I played 3
He was right all along.
>pick dialogue you don't like
>complain about it
Posting in a TORtanic 2.0 thread.
at least link the Starfield thread you're shitposting in
Do you need to go through with this to unlock more dialogue or content with Volo? Or is he really supposed to do and say nothing for the rest of the game?
Nah he does pretty much nothing and hangs out for the rest of the game. He's there for the final fight
>can't have Auntie take one of your eyes then have Volo take the other eye
FUCK YOU LARIAN
You can't? Why? I never take the eyes so i don't know.
If Volo or Ethel takes one of your eyes, you can only response to the other with "No way, I only have the one eye".
Does Ethel give you anything worthwile as a replacement?
A cool looking blind eye. But permanent -1 perception, +1 intimidation, and you can't ever crit again. Never take a hag's offer.
Except for the hags hair, which I believe is the only way to get a stat to 22 without items/pots, right?
I think it's one of the only few stat boosting items in the game, along with a 2+ strength one that I forgot
if you take the hair the petrified dwarf doesnt show up in act 3 to give you the unique cache
I haven't found the petrified dwarf yet in act 3. Is he in the city?
Yes, a one time, permanent boost
>permanent boost
It ends at long rest, anon.
no it doesn't
You're mistaking it for the worthless bone she throws you that casts every Enhance Ability spell on you.
Isn't the hair a one time use item though?
>and you can't ever crit again.
false
i had it and still landed a lot of crits especially late game
I think having a hole drilled in your forehead for a third eye would be neat, just tank my charisma stat or give me a perk that makes me reviled. I'd like to become a mutated freak monster that terrorizes small children with my grotesque appearance.
>talking to hag with Wyll as my face
>she tells him to fuck off since he already lost an eye
was a pretty neat detail honestly, I expected Larian to forget something so small.
I can't stop playing this game and I kinda want to start over as durge. But I really shouldn't be wasting my time with games rn
Does killing the necromancer below the mausoleum also kill off all undeads? Should I just focus on him?
to be fair the idea of a tadpole in your brain but muh mcguffin stops it its still incredible retarder-r
no D&D player would care for anything if you put a fucking time bomb in their heads
its one of the worst gimmick and worse plot a dm could come up with
its almost like those morons don't know what the fuck a mind flayer is if ever played a D&D game
imagine hating fun 😀
you sound like a future suicide victim anon.
Bet your family and all people who had the misfortune to interact with you hate you.
As a human male devotion paladin, I allowed my friend Volo to ice pick my eye.
After all, he assured me he would succeed, and a mans word is his bond.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I SHOULDNE BE ABLE TO MAKE RETARDED DECISIONS IN THE GAME PLEASE BABYSITTERS PROTECT ME
you should try slopfield
I think his point is that it isn't retarded, even though it should be. It's objectively the right decision to let an unlicensed sex pest obliterate your eyeball and poke around in your brain.
I do wonder, why didn't he take the tadpole out through your eyehole after that
based
based drow waifu
I SHOULDNE BE ABLE TO MAKE RETARDED DECISIONS IN THE GAME
But you are, you fucking retard. With no negative consequences. Why do you idiotic ESLoids keep coming to this site?
Does "obscured in shadow" simply mean being hidden? I found a bow that gives +1d4 bonus to anged attacks when doing so. It seems really good for Astarion with assassin/ranger build.
you'll see a little sun type thing when you're sneaking in combat, it'll either be a full sun (not obscured by anything) a half sun (slightly obscured by light shadow) or a darkened out sun (completely obscured by shadow)
Hold shift and move the mouse around. If the sun is filled, that spot is open. If it's half full or empty, it's partially or fully obscured. Just make sure you're not carrying a light source, although being on fire doesn't necessarily count as light.
In gyrmforge I was so busy sneaking off the side path and had to long rest after fighting the boss that the stupid drow guy died and his lantern broke
I also didn't have minthara's lyre so I had to kill the guides
Is there actually a way through the shadow curse if you don't get any of this shit? I ended up just triple dashing astarion to the towers alone because I knew there just had to be a waypoint there. Felt like real cheese.
Yes. Go in and get to the tavern. It's extremely trivial from there.
Everything is dark, the tower was closer from the way I came, just assumed it was empty kek
Dandelion?
Bearbroken.
I already lost one eye to the hag so I didn't want to lose another
volo gives you a better eye, unlike that uggo
Same. I don't understand why he can't try the same eye though. Also are there any eyepatches in the game? It would probably take up the helmet slow anyway though. However if it takes up the helmet slot and gives stats that would be cool.
if the bug is behind a certain eye it wouldn't make sense to try from the other eye
>literally every character that makes a deal with the hag meets a terrible fate
>people still chose to make a deal with her
I don't understand
I just wanted to see what happened and planned to re-load, but the deal wasn't that bad so I went with it
>people still chose to make a deal with her
There are no drawbacks for hair though.
Kind of shit that there is no downside
It's a video game and I'm not really losing my eye.
>literally every companion gets a shit ending
>people still finish the game
Shart, Gale and Lae'zel got a good ending. I don't really give a fuck about the other 3.
>implying
I quit in act 3 because it was such a let down after 1 and 2.
Hey, I got free +1 Ability Score from her
People are minmaxing autists and will make deals with a hag even if they're a paladin because FREE +1 XD
>FREE +1 XD
Yeah, means I get to get my main stat to 20 at level 4. Poggers.
Problem?
>FREE +1
Hags can't be killed, might as well get a +1.
There's people who are not genre savy, my best friend is one of them.
When we played DivinityOS2 he felt for every trick like getting mugged by the prostitute, but probably the worst moment was when he made a deal with a demon we later fought against (he was useless the entire fight because of the contract)
The hag has nothing to do with being "genre-savy". It merely requires an IQ above room temperature to notice the entire fucking room of people who got monkey's pawed by the hag.
it's a disgursting hag witch thing that lives in a swamp, I don't need to inspect shit
What do you mean? The deal with the eye is before entering her lair. So, you shouldn't know about the room of people behind an illusory wall.
The deal she makes you inside the lair is objectively good though, and the dialog actually tells you it's good with (Ability Score +1) tagged in Ethel's speech.
To be fair I immediately knew the old crone was in the wrong because two male witnesses testified against her.
I'm built different
It's called roleplaying
>every person that is born dies
>people are still born
why do druids get to do literally everything?
>high damage spells
>healing
>necromancy
>melee combat with shileligh or wildshape
>zero drawbacks to any of this and barely less effective than fighter/wizard/cleric
Don't forget that druids can also:
>Cuck you
youre no better than a blacked poster
Anon the druid cucks you in the game if you are not vigilant.
Bear cucking is an intentional artistic choice and is perfectly valid to make fun of
weird how the ppl that don't choose cuck options don't experience cuck actions.
Okay and it's weird that they put it in. See how this works? I'm not going to stop making fun of it just because of your autistic, illiterate babblings about 'ppl'.
Type like a human, you fucking moron. How do you get the nerve, assaulting people's eyes with that garbage formatting?
>learn Polymorph
>excited to see what all creatures that can transform my allies into
>only option it has is Sheep
The fuck is this cartoony Warcraft bullshit? I don't need a CC spell that gives the target a free life bar.
What is the difference of spells that use different ranks of spell slots but visibly have the exact same numbers? Paladin has a few of those buffs, but I can't remember the name right now.
If a spell doesn't have any leveled features you are just substituting a higher slot to cast it and don't get any additional benefit
I knew it wasn't going to work in removing the tadpole because thats the whole plot at that point, but I suspected it would have a positive outcome because they want players to like this guy and not leave a lasting negative impression.
Is there a way to get Ethel to help you in the final fight?
Built for BBC.
If I take Gortash's deal can I still blow up the Steel Watch foundry or will he find out it was me and get mad?
yeah there's literally zero downsides to taking his deal, you can fuck him over and blow up his watchers and only the guards at wyrms rock will get pissy.
I don't like spells like "grease". Basically "one turn, do nothing" feels so bad. Maybe it's good, but I really wish that grease was a bonus action spell so that you could get the benefit blowing it up immediately.
Even if they don't slip, they still have limited movement on their turn as they have to cross the slop.
Sure, but maybe I'm just at a particularly bad part right now (act 2, shadowlands), but it feels like most enemies now have some kind of teleport to bypass it.
take the create water pill
put shart, gale or halsin on liquid duty
you should have just about a full set of lightning-themed items for your spellcaster at that point
You're talking about using a level 1 spell in an area for level 5+ players. yeah, it's gonna suck at that point. you are meant to be rotating onto stronger CC support spells and using your level 1's for cheap offense and utility
I'm doing Shar's trial below the mausoleum. The stealth one was really fun, but god damn is the one summoning clones of yourselves raping me. They surprise my party, and during those two turns they kill at least 2 of my guys.
Wait the platforming shit you re gonna enjoy it and like shart as goddess
you can use stealth and sneak up behind them. That will let you position your party and start combat however you want
This
or just use all your party to kill them one by one like a normal fight . You still complete the mission but you get a curse that you can simply remove with the correct spell.
If you remove all your parties armor and weapons before activating the ritual, you can re-equip all of it and fight naked unarmed clones.
Kek can you go to camp and respec everyone to level one and then level up in menu before starting the fight?
my wizard is as weak to magic missles as I figured I would be.
That was an insanely easy fight compared to everything we fought there.
bro your shield spell?
He never had the chance, low con. level 5 magic missle with that glowing ring that adds +2 per missle.
He died in one volley
shield is a reaction and nullifies magic missile damage, did you just not have it?
You aren't allowed reactions while surprised anon.
>I'm going to do this retarded shit... AND THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT IT ON Ganker
>game lets you make objectively retarded decisions and rewards you with abilities and stat boots with no downsides
>doesn't let you recruit an evil character without committing mass murder and locking yourself out of large chunks of game content
This is not true. A lot of the time when you make a retarded decision you need to roll in order to get a positive result. You get a benefit only if you rolled high enough. sin'ce most people here savescum they never experience the bad sides on gambling on bad decisions.
Hiding benefits behind dice rolls is at best a disingenuous way of artificially lengthening a game by intentionally depriving the player of optimal outcomes, and at worst a randomised shitshow that destroys narrative coherence and dramatic tension.
Even DMs fudge rolls. Keep your dogshit lolsorandom epic reddit snafu moment generators out of serious games.
>destroys dramatic tension
Retard. The fact that there is a chance for you to fail the roll even with five stacks of advantages creates tension. People who seethe at dice rolls love to type out platitudes without knowing what they mean.
Dice rolls for dialogue skill checks are dogshit because it's still a binary outcome, retard.
It's not like tabletop where a DM can manipulate the scene.
You either get a 1 or a 0 on the check. Yes or no.
Every persuasion check in every rpg is a binary outcome I don't know why you are seething. I wish critical failures or critical successes were relevant though
>This is not true.
It is true. Going with Minthara and sacking the grove locks you out of a lot of content.
Stop lying, bitch 🙂
They literally made an entire campaign just for evil route
>an entire campaign
It's a few unique actions here and there in return for losing 2-3 companions and a ton of side quests
durge is not an evil route. you're supposed to choose whether you want to play be evil or good with it
durge was supposed to be the only canon protagonist before it was sidelined for true blank slate Tav
>entire campaign
Come on.
>You can't add an absurd scene in your game that rewards you with a mildly decent , extremely situational buff
Forgot:
>game is now objectively harder because half of your party are hirelings who don't get inspiration points
Is there really that much content that you get locked out of?
I of course choose to kill the tieflings because I want a drow wife, but I honestly could not give a single fuck about any druid or moron quest so I'm not too bothered
It would bother me if I do get locked out in act 2 from chunks of content that are important
I also killed Astarion btw
Astarion is fine, Wyll on the other hand...
Astarion is fun and has good content, unlike wyll the absolute bore.
astarion is like the token gay sidekick in a 90s movie
wyll is just a pedophile redditor
Act 3 will be a bit more bare due to several companion quests wrapping up in the lategame, there'll also be less reactivity because companions run into people they know in Act 3, including people in the main quest.
Does Astarion get sent to the wall of the faithless if he dies?
Lmao you got locked out of a permanent +2 strength potion serves you right fag
Youre locked out of best Eldritch Blast build and one of the best heavy armors.
It's not like you need these things. The game is easy as fuck.
>need
seeing bigger numbers is fun, you vagina
>just ferry around a fag and a moron the whole game for +1
Yeah, I don't care.
>crpg
>bigger numers
I literally need it because I enjoy builds and EB is my favorite cantrip. Machinegun EB is fun.
Thankfully I was able to use EB for my favorite build with Warmagic at lvl 7 Eldritch Knight, lvl5 Pact of the Blade, arcane synergy ring, and Daredevil gloves. Favorite build. EB can also be busted on lvl10 Evoc Wiz Apache helicopter build thanks to spellsniper feat.
based
as soon as he outed himself as a vampire I got rid of him
get impaled homo
I miss my old murderbros Korgan, Edwin and Viconia
It's virtually useless if you're playing a mage/archer character. It's OK if you're playing a melee character, it's still extremely easy to get enemies out of invisibility by hitting them with an AOE attack
which eye does he gouge out? very important for role-playing reasons
Your right, so you and wyll get to be twinsies
BASED
my character is blind in that eye anyway so why not
I need magic eyes though magic eyes are cool
so im about finished with the game about to do my last quests
what is the best ending
I dunno i thought it was a fun scene.
Last CRPG I played I let a zombie do a full autopsy on myself.
>get to act 3
>walking around the lower city
>lynch mob is about to execute him
based as hell
>the game shouldn't let me make choices, it..it just shouldn't okay
How did he MC not die when an icepick goes through the brain
Your character actually does die if you name them Trotsky
Wtf are umbral attacks? I just found some gloves that give bonus necrotic damage with those. I hate how the game doesn't explain shit.
I'm not sure, but I think some weapons abilities are meant to interact with specific monster abilities. Like, I found a hacksaw that interacts with a "Surgeon" class skill ability to use a special attack. As far as I can tell the weapon doesn't provide that skill and I don't know if you can acquire it.
It is actually good though
My friend said you can have sex with furries in this game to convince me to buy it, how true is that?
uh you can have gay sex with a bear i guess
Fucking boring, i guess it's my bad for assuming a normalfag would know what a furry is
>Just made a boss kill his own companions and himself just by telling him it would be a good idea
Kek, I love this game
The doctor?
Raphael's nemesis below the mausoleum
Yeah that shit was rad as fuck
>a fucking buff that doesn't work most of the time
i have 80 hrs on my first run and that shit didn't even work on bhaal cultists that like to turn invisible
based on weapons that I'll get later, do I want the sussur dagger or greatsword?
my warlock does some going invisible, miststepping around blasting, shoving and stabbin, and if that could also silence that'd be nice
on the other hand, lazel does a lot more full on melee attacking, and always silencing with that would be nice too
either choice seems good, but the main thing I don't like is that those are my only two dagger and GS characters, so nobody to hand-me-down if I find something better 5 minutes later
even worse than that this anon is asking how to minmax his build in an easy singleplayer game.
what a gay
Then just don't do it?
Some cringe See Invisibility shit isn't worth losing your eye.
You will never have two eyes. Min-max gays BTFO.
>letting Volo pick out your eye is good
>jamming as many bugs into your brain as possible is good
>long resting as much as possible is good
>letting a goblin hag brand you is good
Consequences for your actions? Not in belgium
>letting a goblin hag brand you is good
it's to weird that this interaction is important enough to give you a "branded" tag, yet I only got two use it once or twice.
cut content: the game
>no lariatdrone was able to deboonk any of this
Ouch, that's gotta sting 😀
obsessed
I don't save-scum.
>Not knowing Volo is a legendary bullshitter
>Seething when he destroys your eye
NGMi
>destroys your eye
He upgrades it, you fucking retard.
So what were you saying about him being a bullshitter?
Why is no one talking about the fact that the Emperor was bullshitting and Balduran is apparently still alive handing out on a street corner in the ending
Because it's pretty obvious that the Emperor was lying the whole time if you look at his actions. People just take what he says at face value.
He straight-up joins the Netherbrain if you don't let him absorb Orpheus.
>He straight-up joins the Netherbrain if you don't let him absorb Orpheus.
that scene will always be funny to me
his logic is "I've helped you so many times even though I twisted the truth here and there, why do you still not believe me???"
he calls himself different from the other mindflayers yet he uses the same fucking deception as the regular ones to get what he wants
That's a healer retard, who do you think the mindflayer in that scene is?
That's a healer hired to help Balduran, who is writhing on a bed 2 frames after this screenshot. You stupid fuck.
Why do you retards act like a king on his throne when you post about flaws but then every time it isn't even a plot hole, you just missed basic details? I really hate this board.
Does the petrified dwarf in the hag’s lair ever show up again? He just fucked off and I never saw him again
I don't remember seeing him, same with the chick who fucks off with his dead husband if you revive him
Mayrina shows up pretty prominently in act 3, you must have missed her.
>Does the petrified dwarf in the hag’s lair ever show up again? He just fucked off and I never saw him again
huh? He lives? to be fair I only un petrified him in the greenlight pre full release but I thought his whole curse is that he has a wasting illness so the petrification stopped him from dying, unpetrifying him had him crumble to death in front of the player if I remember right
It was some Monty Python shit.
I enjoyed it.
I let him do it for fun but getting the eye that lets you see invisible creatures ended up being the best buff in the game
I was larping as an edgelord and agreed to be lobotomized because it made sense for my character
Got a cool eye and perma 'see invisiblity'
I don't play a lot of wrpgs. The only other warpigs I've played are ME and KOTOR.
I like that the game has a morality meter that affects what choices and decisions you make, just like ME and KOTOR. Except instead of being tied to an arbitrary red/blue meter, it's tied to your inability to stop simping for characters.
I was going to play evil and mean and side with the goblins until I met karlach. From that point on every decision in the game was
>*desperate for pussy voice* o-of course i'll be nice to the newspaper kid karlach.
>of course i'll eat this meat on the ground because you find it funny karlach
>of course i'll buy this stupid beer karlach
>of course i'll do everything i can do keep this blacksmith alive just so you won't burst into flames karlach
>of course i'll save wyll's father and sell my bro wyll into devil slavery so you won't burst into flames karlach
and so on
very cool. i plan on doing a laezel simp run next.
> i plan on doing a laezel simp run next
Luck you, she's the best character in the game.
In terms of personality, maybe?
She has monkey-face though.
>just let me pull out your intestines bro, is ... LE GOOD
Fuck this dimwitcore game
You are literally a walking corpse with a bunch of stitches.
BG3 has garbage writing.
See when you post cherrypicked shit like this how am I supposed to take you seriously? You have to go out of your way to get into that situation, like 3-4 dialogue options of wanting to do it. You are such a fucking pathetic, disingenuous moron.
You sound angry and unable to properly reply.
heh
concession accepted
don't waste my time again. retard.
>"it doesn't count tho"
heh
No one said that. Why is that "garbage writing"?
>ike 3-4 dialogue options of wanting to do it.
Same with getting Martha to butcher you, funny.
>9hp
...why didn't you just kill him? Retard
You're literally an immortal, endlessly regenerating zombie in PS:T. That's a far cry from being a random human when it comes to body mutiliation experiments.
>just let me cherry pick bro
ok. you have a fucking worm in your head and that's going to desecrate your very existence. wouldnt make sense to let players remove under seemingly desperate measures?
>That's a far cry from being a random human when it comes to body mutiliation experiments.
op's gay point is nearly as stupid as wheelchairs existing in fantasy settings when you think about it
>Hey anon, I have a plan to remove that worm from your head
Ok, Volo, I am desperate
>I'm going to set you on fire, and then when all your flesh is burned away, the maggot will be dead
AM DESPERATE OK
>I'm going to set you on fire, and then when all your flesh is burned away, the maggot will be dead
this is a worthless strawman and hyperbolic statement. worthless fucking input. its not even comparable.
but it would be pretty cool if came out as an undead skeleton for the rest of the game.
It's not a strawman in response to your argument that you should be willing to let someone take an icepick to your brain to solve the same problem.
But it would be pretty cool if you weren't a gay.
>It's not a strawman
it is. you dont even know what an argument lmao. retard, you just posted a fucking statement, followed by an equally dumb comparison, and expect people to interpret on why its bad.
>Everyone who disagrees with me on an anonymous forum is the same person.
A sure sign of a towering intellect.
Nothing precludes a statement from being an argument.
"You are a stupid cunt" for example. Unless you accept it as truth?
>A sure sign of a towering intellect.
k
retard took a reductionist approach to compare situations. clearly you didnt even watch the game's premise
Anyway, why was getting a reward out of this situation bad? i mean your queerface can at least articulate that right?
A lobotomy is not the same as setting someone on fire.
>not a strawman in response to your argument
You write like a massive fag
>I'm going to set you on fire, and then when all your flesh is burned away, the maggot will be dead
You'e not grasping the situation. This doesn't work. You can burn to ash in the game, be revived and your magic worms revive with you.
I'm so impressed by people who are experts on these games and manage to build ultra effective builds. Meanwhile there's me, who just take things I think are good. oh well, seems to work most of the time but I will never get through fights as flawlessly as some people.
Uh, 90% of the time it's some fag who looked it up. Like all these warlock multiclass builds - it is bugged as the only class that stacks extra attack with other multiclasses. 5e is literally designed to prevent this which is why you cannot do it with any other combination. There is literally no way they could've known to build for that without looking it up. They're all mega gays who are unable to think for themselves, not innovators.
Or you could just be me who likes games where builds are like the whole point or a main draw. Never played DnD shit and I saw Warlock and just new it was gonna be bonkers. Saw Pact of the Blade at level 2 and was getting hyped for what was possible. Level 5 made me want to try so much shit because I love Spellblade types and EBlast is so fucking cool. Then I saw my fighter got Warmagic at 7 and had to mix the two into one build. Now I literally can't finish my game in Act3 because once again I just want to try builds out so I can plan out teams and progess for future replays where I just fight everything and skip RP shit.
Here, have a build know one has documented as far as I've seen:
Dark Ranger = 2 Warlock, 5 Ranger, 4 Spore Druid
Arcane Synergy Helm to add your Wis to attacks
Warlock 2 for Devilsight
5 Ranger for double attack, collossus slayer, bow proficiency
4 Spore druid for Necrotic Damage per attack while you have the energy shield up
Fire a darkness bow or have the party cast Darkness bow. You're untouchable, have advantage in the darkness, can shoot thrrough and out of the cloud and you won't lose your bonus Spore druid damage and even have reaction attacks. Tons of flavor if you like the WoW Dark Rangers. Lots of gear stacks more ridiculous damage to the build. Last level can be War priest for more attacks maybe?
>Like all these warlock multiclass builds - it is bugged as the only class that stacks extra attack with other multiclasses
QRD?
At level 5 most martials gain an extra attack.
However, for design reasons in 5e none of these stack. So 5 Barb 5 Fighter still only has 2 attacks. 5 Barb 5 Paladin. All 2 attacks per Action, unlike say Fighter 10 who gets 3 attacks.
Pact of the Blade Warlock (which is a spell warlocks get) gives you an extra attack at level 5 to match martial progression, however they forgot to put in the anti-stacking. So you can go, I think the most common is Warlock 5 Paladin 5? and have 3 attacks.
Most cheese builds will do this. It's cancer because as an extra layer of metagame, you're usually F5ing and casting Pact of the Blade before every fight. Sorry this wasn't really quick, but thats what I'm referring to. If someone tells you about their sick Warlock multiclass build they're a cheater who looked up the strongest option.
You have to "cast" pact of the blade in bg3? That's stupid and probably why they fucked it up.
The engine has some clear limits. Another pain point is the merchant system, which doesn't really work in multiplayer.
Larian actually have extreme passion so they'll probably make a new, better engine with all the BG3 money.
Dear lord it's absolute suffering to wait for motherfuckers to shop or take turns trading in multiplayer.
I think it's crazy the game can know when you aren't using a Monk Weapon and keep you from getting the MA BA attack
But it can't just know when you are using a pact weapon passively and give you a second attack when multi attacks are already in the game
>I hate fun
The Post
Also, turns out other people can figure shit out on their own and like doing so. Get over it, its not getting patched because its not a bug in the first place. Its not an extra attack. Its an extra attack with the weapon pactbound. Unlike extra attack, you can even get an extra attack at the start of your turn if you swung an opportunity attack with the pact weapon. Its also fucking great with Warmagic on a 7 Fighter / 5 Warlock since EB is the coolest cantrip and you normally can only swing once more with a Bonus action with Warmagic. Lots of cool interactions thanks to pact weapon.
You just have to cast it once after long rest, not all the time. If you change your weapon, you'd have to remember to bound the new weapon, but its for free and you should be smart enough to know to do it out of combat so you dont waste an action.
The only class that can Extra attack twice is Fighter with Improved Extra attack at lvl 11.
Even if you multiclass two classes, their Extra attack doesnt stack and the game tells you this.
Warlock level 3 gets three choices, one of which is Pact of the Blade, which is upgraded at level 5 to give whatever weapon you 'pact bond' with an extra attack.
Turns out this stacks when multiclassing other martial classes with their regular Extra attack trait. Warlock itself has some really good bonuses that make it great for multiclassing already, too. Paladin can add their Cha Ability mod to their weapon 3x thanks to this, Oathbreaker, and Arcane Synergy, AND have 3 weapon attacks.
Don't know if its actually a bug to be patched since it still works after two main patches and its the bonus attack is only used on the 'pact bound' weapon whereas Extra attack works on all attacks Unarmed, Weapon, Range Weapon, Throw, etc.
Bonus Attack works on throw
Literally did this just last night and was shocked it worked
Bonus does, yeah. I don't think Pact weapon bonus does. It says in red letters "Pact weapon bonus attack" or something to clarify where its coming from. Could be wrong. Even more busted if it lets you attack with anything other than the weapon thats bound.
I threw 3 times on my 7 Paladin/5 Warlock
Random shit too, like grease bottle, teddy bear, and a cup or something
Take your word for it and apologize for thinking it works the other way. Its probably because I just swing my big Charisma dick around since I just cast EB with Daredevil and then bonk with the Arcane Synergy ring doubling up Cha bonus. Never bother with using a different weapon or throwing shit. Also Devilsight + Darkness is OP all game.
It SHOULD work the other way though.
I think it also does though. Like I said, I got an extra attack at the start of my turn when I had just taken an opportunity attack from Sentinel. It said "Pactbound extra attack" in red under it iirc.
actually I know about it because people like you make posts like this in these threads.
if you hate metagaming so much, maybe stop proliferating all the tricks.
That is the first time I have ever posted about it mr. double moron, and it's because someone went out of their way to ask me. For a "gotcha!" attempt you failed pretty miserably.
so what? it's still the truth. I know tavern brawler is overpowered because in every thread somebody says "tavern brawler is overpowered". I know about the warlock extra attack thing because people constantly bring it up. You don't have to deliberately look up the best builds to know this stuff, you have to deliberately avoid all discussion of the game to not know it.
actual gamer here
bg3 is garbage
>soulless steam remake
have a nice day trendoid
>empty reply
as expected
bg3 is garbage
Replying to you is a complete waste of my fucking time. Why would I ever do that. You hate a great game, well that's unfortunate for you but to be honest I'm glad because your constant seething in this thread is irritating. You are an embarrassment.
I don't hate a great game.
I know the game is just mediocre to bad considering even the biggest shill conceded it is unfinished.
bg3 (and larian overall) is garbage
>Gets his opinions from youtubers
God, I fucking hate this board. The random reference to the foot kissing scene was the giveaway you have never even played the game have you? Fucking animal
>>Gets his opinions from youtubers
Dismissive reply.
bg3 writing and gameplay is garbage
Codextrannies are so cringe
Damn, Wojak posters really are just sewer maggots.
>not a single point
>not a single number
>not a single pic
>not a single gaming badge
typical bg3 defender, probably haven't even played the game past ilthid nautiloid
>>not a single number
>>not a single pic
>>not a single gaming badge
is this what you consider "points"?
show your numbers then, your saves, you achieves, your characters
simple as
cain already talked about how ToEE was unfinished so i guess we can disregard your posts.
Indeed was unfinished
And had better gameplay than bg3
Interesting how dismissive you people are
I DMed toee ten years ago, great module
>And had better gameplay than bg3
much worse actually.
>I DMed toee ten years ago, great module
im surprised you even have friends lmao.
>im surprised you even have friends lmao
A bunch.
I created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls).
Still play with the same friends for over a decade
We will make a Descent into Avernus but everyone is an aasimar paladin from the bible
And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
Also, again empty reply smelling of cope.
You are the cringe my man
have a nice day before it gets worse
You're losing badly zoom zoom, keep digging that hole. At least you have bear cock to suck.
>created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls).
>Still play with the same friends for over a decade
>We will make a Descent into Avernus but everyone is an aasimar paladin from the bible
>And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
you did none of those things. and even if you did 1/10 of it, you can only embellish and exaggerate it.
"N-No you didn't"
Desperate, absolutely reeling.
>y-yes i did
cope, seethe, mald
I'm not even the same person I'm just laughing at you projecting your worthlessness and lack of creativity and follow through onto others.
why are you telling me this? are you a FAG?
>Going through the effort of inspect element editing
Holy fuck how mad can one gay be?
woah calm down queer
>I am demonstrating how assblasted I am by taking the time to do an edit, screen cap it, and respond to everything
Understood have a nice transition.
based gay. dont miss your next HRT order!
Good luck since china cracked down on your supply.
wow. you sure do know a lot about HRT. ill make sure to contact gays like you next time!
Aw no inspect element edit? You getting tired? Winded? Blood feeling a little clotty? : )
vaxx bros . . .
Aw you do care enough to keep your lazy schtick up! I guess you only got one booster. : )
you know the vaxx leads to brain damage right? maybe those shots had consequences!
Wait are we actually lowkey agreeing about shit that is a big deal at this point and we're disagreeing on shit that doesn't even matter like video games which are WEF distractions.
why yes. i do think you're a gay. glad we agreed.
Alright since we're in agreement about vaccines what do you think of this BS push with the new variant since we're no longer participating in the Ganker culture.
traps are gay btw.
Sweet smell of fear
its cool you buy modules and never play them
>the desperation goes on
Also I don't buy. I don't give WotC money.
i mean it's cool you collect resources for shit you're never going to play. but i think it makes you look like a poser.
meh you just sound pathetic now
concession accepted. looks i won:)
>every story I write is less cringe!
>buys an official module and doesn't write anything
No anon, you are the cringe.
>buys
You people are just showing how low IQ you are.
Also explain how running an official module prohibits me from writing?
You are so angry that you got blow the fuck out.
If you can write a better story than official material why do you need modules?
You printed out the cover of the module book? Seems like a major waste of color ink.
Lets see how long we take to make this autistic lardass cry
It seems like everyone who thinks that anyone can be creative or put effort into things are already crying crocodile tears.
>I created the main hub for D&D in my city and DMed for over one hundred guys (and 4 or 5 girls).
lol
>And every story that I wrote is less cringe than bg3
lmao even
>reddit space
I believe you actually did create the main hub for D&D, you dumb janny.
Yes, he was dismissing you, and with good reason; you get your opinion from youtubers instead of making up your own mind. Pointing that out isn't a reply.
>From youtuber
>Disregarding the fact said youtuber worked with the team on the fucking game
LMAO ACTUAL STATE OF BG3 FAN IQs
they actually played the game and made up their own minds instead of listening to someone else like fucking cattle. go mingle with the herd and chew some cud retard
>THEY STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND
>they actually played the game
so you didn't?
Whatever happened to thinking for yourself?
Why are you referencing someone else? Aren't you able to articulate any issues with the game yourself? I can't help but notice that you doomer morons never say a single thing about the game that wasn't vague shit like "It's bad" or "It's pozzed" or "Zoomers like it"
>BG3 defenders now in panic that even the guy that shilled the game so much and voiced a npc said the game is unfinished
Very interesting rection...
>zero arguments presented
>appeals to authority (linking some youtuber)
>hasn't even mentioned a single event, character, or gameplay moment in the game
>keeps posting his playtime in other games
It couldn't be more obvious that you haven't played BG3, which makes me wonder what the fuck you're doing. Do you just like the attention? Dumbfuck. Last reply your shitty bait gets from me.
It means that I know more of gaming than any of you wimps here
bg3 is garbage and I played as a elf fighter before launch
You are, of course correct, but the anon you are arguing with was -20 years old when PS:T was released and a steady diet of state propoganda and judaic media has completely stunted his mind and sense of artistic taste.
I mean, when you solidly fuck up so many games in a row you have to just concede that they are trash
People laud their games as such an amazing product when they could be SO MUCH BETTER if they werent just fucking bad devs
>when you solidly fuck up so many games in a row
Your flopping is palpable.
Show your numbers
bg3 is garbage
Based NWN enjoyer. Do you play vanilla or with PRC, and do you prefer NWN Diamond or NWN2 MOTB?
Vanilla, then did all dlcs but no mods. Only a couple of changes to be more 3.5 instead of shit 3.0
Also had terrible bugs with NWN2 involving the companion AI. It ruined the experience for me. Still finished and its less cringe than bg3
>retarded retard cant even read
shocking
>Still no numbers, facts or receipts
Lmao
>retarded retard is schizoid too
Did your mother play rugby while she was pregnant?
>Rugby
LMAO
FUCKING YUROPOOR OR UKUCK TOO LMAO NO WONDER YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID, CONQUERED PEASANT MOTHERFUCKER HAHAHA
>Ztard
Tick tock, kurva.
>Muh russian boogieman
>Outing yourself as a fucking polak
Imagine the drunker dumber version of slavs bombing you by accident, refusing to apologize to you (The worthless poles) and then sucking their dicks for it... Pathetic, lmao.
You're either a Ztard or a Zwhore, you're gutter trash either way, you and the rest of the balding boomers licking BG2's balls got buckbroken by a bear, tick tock. This is Larian's era.
>Post middle eastern laughing terrorist and mock eurotrash
>The buck broken pole screams in horror at the IMAGINED russian boogieman
Rent fucking free for life, also you are polish there is literally nothing I can type that would be more insulting.
BUT I HAVE A YOUTUBE
Indeed. The rich youtuber that shilled the game for years said that the game he loves is incomplete.
Interesting isn't it?
I don't know, or care, who your youtuber is.
Your single solitary "contribution" to this thread was a cherrypicked screenshot of the Crusher scene. Someone called you a retard and you spammed "goalpost moving! no argument!"
Now you're strutting around like you won an intellectual debate. You need to have a nice day ASAP.
>posts teh game that literally nobodys plays for its gameplay
what did you prove here
>teh
yes its internet lingo you fucking newfag
>for its gameplay
exaclty
bg3 (and larian) writing is garbage
How can a (sub)human say nobody plays Larian games for the gameplay lmao
Every Larian game goes: great worldbuilding>amazing story setup>liters of liquid shit as soon as you get to the middle of the story
>Every Larian game goes: great worldbuilding>amazing story setup
Objectively false
>saving someone else's pic to chase clout in an anonymous basket weaving forum
absolute mental illness
https://discord.gg/wda5zdTQ
>first run is blind evil warlock male gnome
>second run will be human male paladin moralfag
I think that does complete almost everything, right? I like to start as bad because otherwise you will feel really bad, done the same in mass effect
Gentlemen, your typical bg3 defender.
Unable to fucking read.
it was just the Mandela effect
based retard
Ohnonono
>Just let the funny licensed character gary stu work
>Let him cook
>Free buff no downside
>Doubt him even once
>Lmfao take -1 int idiot
The game has really weird alignments on what is good and bad. Guess it's the brain disease of being a libcuck.
>releasing 7000 vampire spawns is good
>killing them all with the plan to kill astorian later just like how you killed cazador is bad
>says he's over a hundred years old
Who the fuck is he?
Baldur's Gate 3 is an order of magnitudes more complex than any of the Black Isle games, Pathfinder games, or Bioware games.
There is simply no arguing over this.
Narratively, there is much more choice and consequence.
Graphically, the 3d engine is superior to any of the other games.
The combat is more complex and factors in locational and object manipulation, with combining status effects. This is, again, objectively more complex than the preceding combat systems of BG and other games, which are simply based on principles of statistical manipulation and bad luck minimization.
This gameplay is the future, there will be no more throwing dozens of trashmob encounters to waste the player's time as a substitute encounters for carefully chosen combat that requires careful planning and situational awareness
You may not like it, you may think this is too easy, but this is what Peak performance role-playing looks like.
>combat
>graphics
>combat again
>THIS IS A REAL RPG
Kid...
>Choice and consequence
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>Combat is complex
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
I like the Larian engine too, so I'd agree the combat and physics are great, but the narrative is a complete illusion.
You'll realise that about halfway through act 2, the game has gone from a spiderweb of choice to a tunnel where every option has the same outcome. It's unfortunate, the game is actually inferior to DOS2 their last creation - and I think the 3D flash is the only reason they're getting attention.
More complex than the Pathfinder games my fucking asshole and a half gay
>reddit spacing
kys
I like Pathfinder. I've been running a Pathfinder campaign for 7 years. It's not complex. It's pretty brainless, actually.
Play WotR
It's actually good? I find it difficult to believe they could capture the insanity of high level play in a videogame. When I can teleport around making armies, setting up resurrection or clone contingencies and make my own demiplane there are no problems that should not be solvable. How could there be stakes with mythic progression? How can there even be a narrative unless they tie my hands with a bunch of bullshit?
The reason I haven't played it is because it would constantly have that feeling like in a FPS when you find a low obstacle you should be able to jump over, but can't because it's an invisible wall.
>carefully chosen combat that requires careful planning and situational awareness
I genuinely dont know if you havent played the game or are just retarded
>Less than half of BG3 chuds have even completed the first act
You need to know who Volo is to appreciate the scene. He's an extreme midwit wizard, who does everything incompetently but somehow it all works out since he's one of Mystra's favorites.
>Le gary stu is super spehsul
Yeah it's still shit.
>play bg3
>get mad about forgotten realms lore
why are you so desperate for attention? what mental illness causes this? either play the game or don't, there's no need to start flinging your feces on public forums like an angry baboon
>empty reply moving away from the point
Different person here showing that less than half of you trannies have even finished the 3 years of early access act lmfao
Anon please, this place was full of end game act 3 spoilers like 20 hours after 1.0 released because of how autistic we are about playing video games.
The normies that bought it and quit playing it after like an hour are the ones that didn't beat act 1, not turbo autists on Ganker.
>Repeatedly sharing the same screenshots over and over means 4cucks is hardcore
Okay
>why are you so desperate for attention? what mental illness causes this? either don't play the game or do, there's no need to start flinging your feces on public forums like an angry baboon.
Hypocrite, I name thee.
hey buddy, mind explaining
?
Sounds like the sort of thing the game should convey to the player, since you need to know?
There are DnD sourcebooks literally named "Volo's Guide to X". He's kind of a big guy.
>bearbroke Bethesdadrones
>bearbroke Sawyer
>bearbroke tendies
>bearbroke chuds
>bearbroke reseterra
>bearbroke RPGcodex
Who can remotely stop the bear?
>ackack
>Let Hag do her thing on my eye which gives me a permanent debuff where you can't crit
>Vovo icepicks that same eye out and removes the hag permanent debuff while also giving me a permanent see invis buff
Absolutely based.
Liar detected, the can't crit thing was changed to disadvantage on perception and attacking hags for a paltry +1 intimidation.
And you literally can't do that though, each eye event prevents participating in the other.
Really? Damn, I tried that and the only option I had was something along the lines of
>I only have one good eye left; don't do it!
And then he fucked off from camp.
>see boss monster
>see minions around him
>prep spells, cast buffs, and send in alert melee leader
>Surprised! Rest of team spaces out until end of round 2
This is so stupid.
It is really, really stupid.
You know what's even worse? When they summon something that also gets 2 full turns before you get to act. Surprise is fucking retarded in this game and a genuine flaw, unlike the autistic story ragebaiting that is muddying the waters.
I don't get how sneaking works, sometimes it's like I'm not even there and other times the enemies detect me like I'm wearing neon Spandex, even if I stay out of their sight cones
Heres how to use stealth attacks - the right way.
Get 2 levels in Warlock. Get Devilsight, pick Darkness as your spell.
Cast Darkness. You now are invincible and get advantage on attacks.
I just use the fag vampire to cast smoke and then backstab
Sneaking in this game sucks ass, I fully and whole heartedly suggest running rogues with the underdog gauntlets or running something that can reliably give itself invis.
People are soloing Tactician as Assassin/Gloomstalker because sneaking is so OP
This is the only guy that survived the goblins and he apparently does this shit all the time. He's such a mastermind his plan all along was getting captured.
He's a legendary scholar that knows about squids.
You've been spending your days getting your eyes shot out with arrows and healing them right up anyway. If you're roleplaying someone afraid of getting hurt you shouldn't for example fight goblin camps full of archers either.
This is an interesting, small reward for high risk.
>game offers you thing
>get mad
>he eventually gives you a robotic eye that helps you spot invisible enemies
PLBPLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBL...
KSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
ACKACK
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG
>Astarion disapproves
>Lae'zel disapproves
>Shadowheart disapproves
>Karlach disapproves
>Hey can I poke your eye with this icepick?
>no
There you go anon
>>no
>miss out on free detect invisibility
There you go, retard.
You get to repeat it later retard-kun
Worthless ability
The only place you need it is for the levers in Ramizeth's Tower
>but muh invisible enemies
literally cast AoE, half of them go invisible and fucking stand there
>Worthless ability
No, it isn't.
And even if it were, there's still no negative consequences for letting a retard poke your eye out.
Having one detect invisibility is worthless
If they pass their save you will never see them
You can easily knock them out of invisibility if you're not blind
You get a shitty eye
>You get a shitty eye
Literally blue 3, lmao, you should play the game you're trying to defend, tourist
You're not a good boy
kek retard
What the fuck is wrong with your graphics jesus christ
max sharpness and blur
>Me
>Didn't like Baldur Gate 3
>Decided to play it with a cheat engine
>Max out stats to 30
>Start off at level 12
>Set dice to always land on 20.
>Playing an edgelord assassin
>Criminal background
>Insane
>Just killing everyone
>Killed Astarion and Lah'zul right away
>Can't kill Gale cause bomb
>Haven't killed Wyll yet but working on it
>If the game gives me the option to ATTACK someone I usually select it
>Killed the Zhantarian mercenaries after agreeing to help them
>Sometimes I help people and then betray them immediately afterward
>Killed the Tyr Paladins
>Pick INTIMIDATION dialogue usually to scare people, if not outright kill them.
>Kill merchants, if I can get away with it, and steal all their shit
>Pickpocket people
>When they confront me I kill them
>Just watch people die or refuse to help sometimes
I'm probably missing out on a lot of stuff by killing everyone, right? I figured it locks you out of a lot of quests/scenes. I might do a lawful good run or something where I'm just a lollipop candy ass gay who helps everyone and lets people spit in my face. Also I'm kind of afraid to use the tadpoles, but anons said there really aren't any downsides and I guess if you're playing an edgelord then it makes sense to use them for power and darkness blah blah blah.
>Also I'm kind of afraid to use the tadpoles, but anons said there really aren't any downsides
That anon is right, and you get cool brain powers
>killing everyone they see
>durrr is this going to lock me out of quests?!?
jesus christ anon
You gotta go ALL or nothing, why RP as a murder/criminal if you're just not going to murder everyone? You gotta commit to the role, it's boring if you only murder them given the situation. I'm not buying shit with gold, just kill the fucking merchant and take his stuff. Fuck him.
A lot of people in the game tend to threaten you and pick fights with you, so in a way it's justified in murdering them. They usually threaten you first and want to act tough.
I don't care.
I just think you're a retard for asking if you get locked out of a bunch of quests if you just kill everyone you come across.
Fucking obviously you're going to be locked out of a bunch of quests if the first thing you do is kill everyone instead of talking to them and seeing if they have anything for you to do, or keeping them alive in case you might have to come back to them for a quest later on.
What is there to RP if everybody is dead?
>>Max out stats to 30
off at level 12
>>Set dice to always land on 20.
Says a lot about you.
Yeah, it does, when the game is garbage. Dice rolls tend to fail most times, even with karmic dice turned off. The game actively works against the player and doesn't seem fair most of the time. You start off the an INCREDIBLE MISS RATE most of your attacks will never land until you get to like level 4-5 or so, and enemies hits ALWAYS land. Even when playing a high dodge rate/defense character, your chance to dodge/block is awful in the game.
Maybe setting everything to max was a bit overkill, I could have just maxed out my constitution or agility I guess so at least I wouldn't have to worry about taking hits so often, or if anything I could have started at level 1, and just started off with maxed stats in everything else, at least this way I get some sense of progression by still being able to level up.
Starting the game at max level is a bit boring since you can't level up any further and you essentially removed all sense of progression by being essentially a god at the very start of the game who can just one shot everyone.
You have brain damage
Not really much else to say. Your opinion has little value. You could've just played on Explorer difficulty, dude.
Explorer difficulty doesn't make the dice rolls anymore fair, but I guess you're right, it'd make combat brain-dead easy at least.
I just hate the game relies on a dice rolling mechanic, I get it, but it sucks when you fail at a dice roll on something, though I guess that's suppose to give the player the sense of failure, like "Hey, you WANT to do this action, but there is a chance you might not be able to do it, so do you risk the consequences if you fail?" And you have to make that choice. It also helps out more with the roleplaying aspect, as a wizard or someone with low strength, won't be able to do strength based rolls, and you wouldn't expect your wizard to be able to do something STR related.
That's part of rolls, yes, but the main reason rolls exist is for tabletop roleplaying. There it is an opportunity for skill expression, because you use the random result to help yourself tell a story.
Adapting it to a videogame 1:1 is fucking retarded, but Larian know better because they didn't really have dice rolls in Divinity OS2. I think it was part of the licensing agreement with WOTC to shill D&D 5e as a system.
I swear miss chance goes up on Tactician by like 10% or something.
There are so many ways to up your hit chance that you should really be at 75% minimum once you get past level 5. You also have spells that I think autohit like Chain Lightning or AoEs and still do half damage on save.
There's also numerous debuffs and buffs to raise your hit chance via spells or oils.
>Plays game based on a tabletop rpg
>Complains about dice rolls
What did you expect???
baldur's gate 2 doesn't use dice rolls for dialogue
>You start off the an INCREDIBLE MISS RATE most of your attacks will never land until you get to like level 4-5 or so, and enemies hits ALWAYS land.
I had the opposite experience, mycharacter was routinely dodging arrows from half a dozen enemies
Reconsider your life choices.
larianfags believe power rangers is good writing
Who here is /explosivebottle/?
Notice how BG3 defenders never have actual real proof of anything.
No game
No character
No past games
Nothing
Sure this is one weird demographic.
And since you wimps have no game at all to show I will now hit the gym.
Tell me anon, have you played Bg3?
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
>I've played OTHER GAMES than BG3, therefore BG3 is bad
What kind of logic is this and why do you keep returning to it? You haven't played BG3.
>I'm going to go LIFT WEIGHTS (they're heavy) and be tough and strong by the way
>people wont bother posting random screenshots so they dont have real proof of... something
Anon when your mom told you you are special, she meant fucking retarded
Yikes
El Autismo
Follow this obvious quest line for an obvious cool reward. The risk you put in for this quest is rewarded in a humorous way.
Would you rather them block out half the screen?
make me play by sound you bitches
you won't
BG3's core target audience are redditors who watch critical role and clap and squeal when they talk about bards seducing things or the word fireball.
Imagine how retarded you have to be to get filtered by Baldur's gape.
Even women get most of it.
If I wanted to do like a lawful good run/character, what's the best good two shoes party to accompany my character? I'm guessing Wyll, Gale, and Shadowheart? Lah'zul is too edgy and mean, figured Gale and Wyll are more paragon types, and Shadowheart I guess is kind of neutral in her moral compass.
Karlach, and shes hilarious. Fun and 'quirky' without being full reddit. No "did I just do that?" lines but brings some nice positivity and charm to all the doom and gloom. Blunt, fun, and hot-headed compliment to a more nerdy or cool-minded Tav.
>shes hilarious.
>IM HORNIIIIIIIIII
WHAT A FUCKING RIOT M8
>she hilarious
>Skewers skulls with a trident that returns to her hand
>starts dancing
Yes, anon. I was laughing all game thanks to her. I found her irresistibly charming.A girl out for my heart.
You need a redit girl despite what you claim ;/
Sadly there are know red-hot, giantesses from Avernus in my area, contrary to what the ads keep telling me.
I'm trying her for my second game. Every time we go up a ladder she moans like she just ruptured something.
Reminder to Ganker that when people shitpost about games they clearly haven't played, that this is the levrl of autism behind it.
It's sad how nowadays, once every 4-5 years we'll get one (1) game that clearly outclasses everything else in its category with the amount of care and work that went into making it, and still Ganker will go batshit insane and find any way possible to shit on it just because it's what it does. Like you're so fucking used to games being shit, you stopped recognizing good, old style games when they come along.
It's a great game, anons. Just enjoy it ffs. With the amount of outright terrible games you get, seize the opportunity to just have fun with the one that's actually good for fucking once.
what makes this game better than others? whats really different? that you get the 1 dialogue that makes sense, and 3 other dialogue choices that lead to an immersion breaking meme moment for retarded streamers to market the game, and then immediately go back into the A-story with no consequence or acknowledgement whatsoever of that odd thing that the character just made?
it has better graphics?
>what makes this game better than others?
>better
Better compared to what?
The game as it is offers lots of entertainment, an interesting story, good game mechanics, good combat, good graphics.
I't doesn't have any microtransactions, lootboxes or battle passes.
The Devs actually try to fix their mistakes and the modding scene is active.
And it has cute girls
>And it has cute girls
saving western gaming from fable 4-esque uggos
this alone means it deserves praise
>Better compared to what?
i dont know, you said that. thats what im asking you, better compared to what other game?
>The game as it is offers lots of entertainment, an interesting story, good game mechanics, good combat, good graphics.
thats literally every game.
>I't doesn't have any microtransactions, lootboxes or battle passes.
things that dont affect gameplay
>The Devs actually try to fix their mistakes and the modding scene is active.
literally every game nowadays is released half-baked. thats industry standard. modding is not appropriate for every game genre, but usually people are able to mod any game that's not an MMO
>And it has cute girls
coomer bait is part of every game, not that that's a positive.
literally every game has mocap and VA.
oh, thats what you meant by pretty girls. fair enough, +1 for BG3
>literally every game has mocap and VA.
literally no
>literally every game has mocap and VA.
No other CRPG has it that i can think of. Only shit like Cod
I think this is wrong. Pathfinder: WOTR is better in almost every way, yet it'd never get normie appeal because (ignoring that it uses a much more complex ruleset of course) it lacks voice-acting for every single line and has no motion-cap convos.
The dialogue system is too dated. The game might be better, but if I want to read descriptions of how someone's physical actions I will go read a book instead.
"Much more complex"? The only real difference between Pathfinder and D&D is a larger amount of content existing for PF.
>Dnd 5e is as complex as Pathfinder
kek, okay buddy. 5e has like 10 total feats and 4 classes. miss me with that gay shit
Yes more content. So more feat options. Would you really call that complexity, dude? Jesus.
They're almost word for word identical systems.
>DnD 5e player's handbook size: 36 pages
>Pathfinder 1e rulebook size: 311 pages
>total feats for all classes and all levels in 5e: 23
>total feats avaiable to level 1 Fighter in PF 1e: 37
>total classes in DnD: 9
>total WITCH subclasses in PF: 9
>number of spells you can concentrate on at a time in dnd: 1
>pathfinder: unlimited
spell amounts: DND: 41, PF: 613
how many of those feats, classes, subclasses, spells, etc. are actually worthwhile? you and i both know they never go out of their way to make sure they are utilized well.
>how many of those feats, classes, subclasses, spells, etc. are actually worthwhile?
That's the beauty, I'd say 70%, and maybe 20% are situational and the remaining 10 are for RP purposes.
Having a well designed party is what allows you to kill gods in Pathfinder, party comp doesn't really matter in 5e tbh. There is no real depth, just my opinion.
Well designed party? Literally nothing beats cleric-wizard-rogue-fighter, thats why every module is designed for that exact composition (explicitly stated by Paizo). Sorry you fell for the half caster meme.
>cleric-wizard-rogue-fighter
Maybe if you're running a baby-tier campaign with a "bro" DM, but then you're not killing gods. A mythic one that's been cranked up, that takes a party.
that combination of 4 BTFOs whatever cringe multiclass you came up with
Look man, I know. I prefer Pathfinder. I just think calling it complex is a joke, I mean you just autistically stack +1s until you can kill god.
I dropped wotr immediately because every line in the part I played was voice acted horribly and the dialogue was terrible.
maybe it gets better, but just judging by the intro the game is a legit 4/10.
>Pathfinder: WOTR is better in almost every way
and this game clearly goes to shit halfway through, from a narrative and gameplay standpoint.
forced to restart the already shitty empire management over
side quests have less and less reactivity to them as you progress through them.
some dungeons might as well have been deleted from the game.
Alushinyrra might as well be on fucking rails. trashing the open world you had for some shitty city.
certain paths are completely lacking in content compared to others.
etc.
>ignoring that it uses a much more complex ruleset of course
outside of the character building, which is probably the only thing the game manages to capture from pathfinder well, it's a BG clone through and through and has plenty of casual appeal.
>normie
just stop being a pussy and say normalfag
>it lacks voice-acting for every single line and has no motion-cap convos.
so? the voice acting was probably one of the few redeeming qualities the characters had in WOTR. because their motivations and writing take a nose dive in their quests.
i swear CRPG tards cherrypick the games they like lol. there's so many games praised on here that are 'unfinished' and they're almost exclusively RPG games. the standards just arbitrarily shift to games they dislike for whatever retarded reason.
>thats literally every game.
have a nice day troll
>t. Mental Illness
The voice acting + motion cap is why normies love this game. Same reason why they also like movie games.
>the latter half degrades quickly from unfinished to the worst shit you've ever played
a lot of crpgs do this and they quit praised quite heavily here
Better than what?
The only thing you can really compare it fairly are other CRPGs and at a minimum it is obviously better than DA:2, DA:I, and ME:A.
I hate RTWP with a passion so it's combat is automatically better than KotOR, KotOR2, NWN, NWN2, and DA:O.
Even if you like RTWP, both KotOR games have shit combat, I would say the same applies to both NWN games, and I can at least see how someone would enjoy DA:O's combat.
None of those games have meaningful exploration (this includes the ME series) or environmental interaction.
Even if you prefer RTWP the amount of options you have when it comes to approaching combat scenarions in BG3 is dramatically greater.
The writing is certainly not worse than NWN, NWN2, DA:2, or DA:I. I think it's better than KotOR because KotOR is a generic Star Wars story with a fucking M. Night twist.
There are maybe 1-3 actually memorable companions in each of those games and Lae'zel is absolutely up there with Bastila, Morrigan, Garrus, etc. She is admittedly the only one on that level.
TLDR: People overrated the fuck out older CRPGs due to nostalgia and political BS. RTWP is trash.
finally an intelligent post.
>The only thing you can really compare it fairly are other CRPGs and at a minimum it is obviously better than DA:2, DA:I, and ME:A.
sure. but the bar to surpass those dogtrash disasters is pretty low. we're saying it's good here, we're not saying it's not as bad as this horrible garbage.
>I hate RTWP with a passion
opinion is not a fact, but i agree with you on that. but comparing apples to oranges isnt fair.
>Even if you like RTWP, both KotOR games have shit combat,
because of the d20 aspect? its definitely more simplistic, but this game doesnt hold a candle to Xcom
>KotOR is a generic Star Wars story with a fucking M. Night twist.
at least it tries
>Lae'zel
if you like rude women, sure. i dont like people giving me attitude in video games and having to just take like a doormat. its a video game, where is my power fantasy? and the fact that only 1 out of 9 companion is great for you speaks volumes
>None of those games have meaningful exploration (this includes the ME series) or environmental interaction.
fair enough.
i can concede that its the best CRPG to come out in a while
the writing for that quest is retarded. and its a cancer that is infecting the entire game, but this quest specifically is a shining example of it. the metaphorical breaking bad moment for cancerous game direction. i think i made it pretty clear multiple posts ago. keep up, buddy.
just because you dont like shooters, doesnt mean the gameplay for COD isnt good. doesnt mean the story isnt interesting. doesnt mean the mechanics aren't creative. GTA V is like one of the most played games. moreso than this. there are more games in the world than DnD based RPGs, you know this, right? you're the one who's mentally retarded if you think that other AAA games dont reach a threshold of standard. if you want to talk about indie trash, then you are being disingenuous.
>and its a cancer that is infecting the entire game,
But you yourself destroyed your own argument when you said that you CHOSE not to experience that part of the game retard.
>doesnt mean the gameplay for COD isnt good. doesnt mean the story isnt interesting. doesnt mean the mechanics aren't creative
MW2019 had an interesting new take on the MW story but II just fucked it up because the got overexcited and just tried to redo the Old MW again but failed.
Most jaded comment of Ganker this month. Get off this site for a good 3, for your own sake even.
Its basically "YOU GET THE ONE DIALOGUE THAT I WOULD PICK AND THE OTHER THREE ARE CLEARLY WOKESHIT BECAUSE I HAVENT PLAYED THE GAME BEFORE SO IT MUST BE SOME KIND OF THING I HATE AND THEREFORE ITS FOR MONEY BECAUSE CORPOS AM I RIGHT FELLAS? I AM SILLY"
Why not just fucking play videogames and have fun? Yes, the writing in a video game is unsurprisingly not compelling. Go read a fucking book prior to this century for some meaningful story. The combat is fun, the music is great, the build variety and party comboing is excellent, theres broken OP shit in a singleplayer that doesnt need a fucking balance patch, theres hilarious dialogue checks, stupid mechanics like rolling dice for meme moments, and quickreloading if you hate it, theres Astarion and Karlach for goofy replays, theres Shart and Wyll and Gale or taking the silly story seriously, theres Dark Urge for another unique spin. Theres a lot to like and replay for, but just skip it because Ganker is the home for contrarians and you've allowed it to infect your brain.
There seems to be a good portion of Ganker's population that can't tolerate something not going their way. These are the people making these dumb criticisms.
To be fair, the game does have a good amount of writing decisions that are bound to piss off conservatives, inevitably
I'm a conservative and it never pissed me off.
Don't lump me in with terminally online schizophrenics.
>You literally get to kill squatter refugees and collect a monetary reward from the government
idk man, i dont think youre right about that
Yeah for sure, there are options to be evil not just in murderhobo way but what people today would consider morally evil/politically incorrect. But the surface level of 'oh...there are gay characters and shit' turns people off I think
Everything that filters retards is good.
I only wish the game was more inaccessible
>3 grills and Gale
Based. My Tav was a warlock grill, too. Was using Gale as the MC and then I realized I could've just made him the Origin MC and plugged in a controller to make an OC waifu.
it's a 7 at best and only for 1/2 the game
the latter half degrades quickly from unfinished to the worst shit you've ever played
most of act 1+2 are pretty decent but everything else is so bad you might as well quit instead of playing it, it will be years before it's maybe semi-finished and there are THOUSANDS of better games you could play before this one
Name the last CRPG you gave a grade of 8 or higher, then. I'll wait.
depends what you mean by crpg
if you mean game that mimics d&d then just BG2, they don't release many D&D "crpgs" period
I haven't rated pathfinder because I haven't finished it yet
Does this guy think that an ice pick in the frontal lobe automatically means destroying your eye? Does he think people who had lobotomies done were all half blinded as well?
>TFW the ONLY person who likes Wyll
Feels good, everyone else is a Shadowheart, Gale, Karlach, or Astarion gay.
For all my brothers who got gifted this game and are enduring it to play alongside other friends even though they don't like it.
If you want to be both useful, and also fuck Swen's wife. Here's how you do both. You roll a halfling, subrace doesn't matter. All halflings don't take 1 rolls, and this game no matter your dice settings LOVES to shit on you with 1 in combat and in checks.
Now you become a bard, you stay bard until you can pick lore bard, why lore bard? You choose further how rolls land, you do opposite's day bardic inspirations and fuck up enemy's rolls. This can be their attacks, their DC saving throws, their own spells, a lot of things really. And the game will automatically prompt you when you can alter the outcome of this. At level 4? Take the lucky feat, you get 3 more even more universal rolls of telling the game to gargle your nuts and you decide what you roll. That or warcaster if you are more autistically enraged by losing concentration. Then lucky later.
You'll really come into your own around 5 or 6 where every short rest restores uses of your feature, and lucky will fill in the gaps where it doesn't cover. And magical secrets lets you pick things like spirit guardians to absolutely trivialize act 2 (that or daylight) or warden of vitality so everyone crying for healing you can hit them with a free zero concentration bonus action.
Divination wizard can do the same shit with fudging rolls so if you multiclass into it from lore bard it would be kinda funny.
Doesn't it have to deal with the crap prophecy system to use it's mechanic tho?
It gets at least 2 uses for free each day but to regain charges without a long rest you need to do its objective shit
>this game no matter your dice settings LOVES to shit on you with 1 in combat and in checks.
Yes the game itself is specifically doing this to you on purpose
I swear I see more 1s and 20s than anything else.
>get a 1
>fuck this feels awful this is horrible this game fucking sucks fuck this bullshit
>get a 20
>oh nice awesome
which one is more memorable?
i remember the nat 20s too because it feels like i didnt earn the roll. when i have +10 in a skill check, its kind of a "oh, well all that hard work didnt matter". of course, it feels worse to not get something you wanted (why is a video game like this? if its good, i will replay it with a different path) but this game also manages to make successes feel empty and unsatisfying. seeing a 29 is a lot more satisfying than just getting an instant pass. what am i, a 5 years old playing a mobile p2w game? i dont get stimulation from instant gratification like a tiktok zoomtard. i literally trained myself to not seek instant gratification like a good boy, and now im being punished for being superior to the unwashed masses?
I don't know what all that schizo nonsense is about but if you don't like dice rolls don't play RPGs, simple as
They're about equal because they're the only rolls that don't get modifiers so they stand out more
Yes now you understand.
Or just go Zerker Barb + Tavern Brawler at 4 and get lvl 5 for extra attack. Make sure to get 3 levels of Thief Rogue after that so you can throw your weapon or midget/goblin 4 times per turn. 6 if you bloodlust. 8 if your giftor host was kind enough to go Sorc to Twin Haste you and himself. Can't see how you wouldn't have fun throw a midget 8 times every combat turn and later on you have a Thunder Trident to troll your own crew with AoE thunder damage.
this is great, except i hate seeing lucky/portent rolls pop up every time i get a shit roll, which is 50-75% of every action i take in this shit game. but i will play only halfling from now on, now that i know they cant crit fail.
See- Portent is the worst, it pops up for EVERY ROLL even if it'd otherwise be fine due to the nature of it replacing any roll.
>He couldn't understand Columbo Basedness
Failure at life. 0%. A man that is not worthy of carrying its own genitals, and should probably try to make an eunuch of himself.
Alright I got this schizo retards thread to bump limit
My work here is done
parting thoughts: have a nice day my man. you are fooling noone