Kingdom Hearts coming to Steam 6/13

Boy, the localizers really fricked up Vanitas' dialogue in KHIII.
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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The localizers are working with Nomura writing, any mistakes will improve the story

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "So Venty-Wenty wants to keep sleeping."
      >>"So Ventus really doesn't want to wake up, huh."

      Man eat dirt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's the same shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Disingenuous homosexual.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek you are a miserable twat

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Play in traffic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                naw I'm good ;^)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "disingenuous" over a near-identical line please fricking god watch a streamer that isn't asmongold i am BEGGING you

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    english translation
    >"We are brothers who, together, make a greater whole."
    also english translation but by a basement dweller who does it for free
    >"Because we are brothers who complement what another lacks"
    WOW WTF COMPLETELY CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE (THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD AND WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND EVEN IF I DID) TOTAL LOCALIZER DEATH

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it me, or did they make Vanitas out to be le spooky evil guy. Every line out of him sounds like someone trying to sound stereotypically evil where as in BBS he was just edgy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is how he was created.
        Sora's nip VA wanted to play the villain for once since he always gets typecast as the good boy so Nomura wrote vanitas with that in mind

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes I know about that, what I'm saying here is that he was also in Birth by Sleep, and there he wasn't as stereotypically evil as he was in KH3. He went from okay written bad guy to "ooooh, i'm so evil, i'm gonna talk in a spooopy voice that I didn't have in the previous game for reasons"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think KH3 in general just degraded everything. Pushing aside the massive drop in dub quality where everyone's more wooden than normal by this series' standards, so much shit happened to set up future plot points and so many characters basically degraded into exaggerated caricatures of themselves. Vanitas being worse feels like it should be a marked and notable character change that might be a plot point, but no, he's just been pressed down into being evil for the sake of evil.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i'm gonna talk in a spooopy voice
            That's the dub. In Japanese. Vanitas is mostly hammier than he was in BBS where he only started getting hammy in the Graveyard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >In Japanese. Vanitas is mostly hammier than he was in BBS

              Are you serious? You mean the ENG toned it down? It was probab;y Union X that caused this change with the stupid darkling thing or whatever.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was never an okay written bad guy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Strap a dildo to your strawman and imagine it's your uncle.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      weebs are clueless

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The games been out for years, and only now are people realizing Vanitas has shit dialogue?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nichegamer flying monkeys looking for their next big break after TWEWY NEO's localization wasn't hated by anybody and they couldn't get anybody to hate TWEWY's localization by extension

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these fricks so rarely post the original Japanese line? Don't just
    >dude trust me
    it. Post the original line along with the supposedly faithful translation.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meh, it really isn't that bad. You should look at literally any other modern Square Enix game to see true butchery.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw no crack house world.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rather have a winter parking lot world

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >*randomly points off screen to other umbrella*
        >don't hit the camera, man
        god I fricking love this video

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          roltf

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Riku never got to take a hit from the crack pipe of Darkness

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the localizers really fricked up Vanitas' dialogue in KHIII.
    not just that, remember the meme dialog woody gave to Young Xeahnort? is not even remotely close in japanese which is far superior btw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >which is far superior btw
      You mean it was worse? What did he call him a homosexual or something?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He calls xehanort a Black person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't you gays ever actually post definitive proof and instead try to make everyone take you at your word just to incite drama? It's getting old and everyone in these threads calls out these claims.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see the issue.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gyat

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine not already emulating KH1 and 2 final mix

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Already did that. There's more/better mods for 1FM 1.5, but more/better mods for 2FM PS2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An ancient darkness, one of 13.
      https://www.khwiki.com/Darkness_(character)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick? I thought Vanitas was just Ventus' dark half.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nope. All a ruse. Vanitas was an ancient entity the whole time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They changed it in the mobile games. Now Vanitas is like some dark being called a Darkling that hitched a ride on Ventus (through the time machine escape pod from KH 1) from the past (Ventus was originally from the Union cross timeline set hundreds of years ago) that gained it's own form when Ventus's heart was split in two. So, he IS still half of Ventus's heart (the dark half) but he's also infused with the "Darkling" from the mobile game so he's like double dark.

            So what has become of Vanitas in the present?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stuck inside Ventus's heart.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Vanitas we see in KH3 is BBS Vanitas time traveling to the future. In Remind, when Sora goes inside Ven's heart, Darkness kicks him out and sicks Dark Inferno X on him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >when Sora goes inside Ven's heart, Darkness kicks him out and sicks Dark Inferno X on him.
                And that Darkness is Vanitas right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. He lost his form after Ventus destroyed it and returned to being formless "Darkness" after Ventus defeated him inside his heart as well.

                So do you guys think he'll play any role in what's to come in the Lost Master arc?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why else would they keep updating his lore and connecting him to characters who will be relevant later on? He'll absolutely be involved with this new arc in some way. The new main villains are seeking to destroy the 13 true darknesses and Vanitas is one of them so he's one of their targets.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So do you guys think he'll play any role in what's to come in the Lost Master arc?
                Yes, they need to kill all the darkness

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. He lost his form after Ventus destroyed it and returned to being formless "Darkness" after Ventus defeated him inside his heart as well.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dark Inferno X
                What's the deal with this guy anyway? The X in his name is specifically the one from the mobile game and he also just so happens to be specifically in Ventus' heart, but clearly he is not the same Darkness that is/was Vanitas.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What's the deal with this guy anyway? The X in his name is specifically the one from the mobile game and he also just so happens to be specifically in Ventus' heart, but clearly he is not the same Darkness that is/was Vanitas
                But Dark Inferno x IS the same Darkness as Vanitas. He's the form Vanitas/Darkness takes on while inside Ventus' heart when trying to force Sora out of Ventus' heart.

                The "X" part of the name is referring to the mobile game as that letter is an ancient letter and the Darkness is an ancient entity so it makes sense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Heh, you thought you were dealing with the regular darkness
                >but unlike you I was born it in, molded by it
                >I am Xarkness

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >BBS Vanitas time traveling to the future
                WHAT?!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you like zone out during KHDDD and KH3?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, a little, but I thought some of the New 13 members were present day characters, like Terranort was. Speaking of, why was Old man Xehanort in charge? Terra-Nort is LITERALLY him but younger, and he's a present day iteration so anything he does would actually matter had he succeeded. And why did Old man Xehanort die at the end if he was from the past? wouldn't him dying at the end of 3 just send him back to Birth by sleep with no memories and then die when Terra-Nort loses to Sora,Ventus, and Aqua in the present day? So I guess he would go to Keyblade hell then now that I think of it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bald Xehanort was actually the present Xehanort, because he got revived after Ansem SoD and Xemnas got defeated. It's never explained WHY killing a Heartless and a Nobody revives the original person, but it just does.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's never explained WHY killing a Heartless and a Nobody revives the original person, but it just does.
                Because destroying the Heartless frees the heart and destroying the Nobody frees the body allowing for both components to join up once more and return to its original being.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My problem with that is... Where the hell did Terra come from then? is he from the past inhabiting a replica then? and why did defeating the Heartless and Nobody of what is obviously Terra's body recreate old man Xehanort? it should have brought Terra-Nort back to life.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Where the hell did Terra come from then? is he from the past inhabiting a replica then?
                It was blatantly explained in game.
                >and why did defeating the Heartless and Nobody of what is obviously Terra's body recreate old man Xehanort? it should have brought Terra-Nort back to life.
                Because they said in-game they split back up after Ansem and Xemnas were destroyed. Terranort was a conjoined entity to begin with so it makes sense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Terra's heart was inside Ansem's guardian. Come on man, did you even play KHDDD and KH3? How can you not remember any of this stuff?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm starting to think he didn't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's never explained WHY killing a Heartless and a Nobody revives the original person
                DDD explained it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but I thought some of the New 13 members were present day characters, like Terranort was.
                But Terranort is a time-traveler too. He's just occupying Terra's present body. And we still have Master Xehanort, Xigbar, Luxord, Larxene, Marluxia, Saix, Vexen and Demyx who were all from the present.
                >Speaking of, why was Old man Xehanort in charge?
                Because he's the present Xehanort and the reason all his other selves can exist in the present. He's the anchor plus none of them can do shit to him anyways.
                >And why did Old man Xehanort die at the end if he was from the past
                He wasn't from the past.

                Next time pay attention while playing the game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But Terranort is a time-traveler too. He's just occupying Terra's present body.
                Where the hell did they say that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In the game if you bothered paying attention. Go look it up on YouTube if that helps.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >go look it up
                How is this an answer? What's stopping me from saying you're wrong, Terra-Nort is present day, and for you "to look it up". This doesn't prove anyones point, give me something to go off of at least, what scene should I be looking for, you expect me to replay the whole goddamn game for a scene I told you I haven't seen before? What makes you think I'll have any better chance of finding it now with nothing to go off of?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or you could just play the fricking game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You want to be spoon-fed that badly, don't you? Just go play Remind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are SO fricking moronic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you expect me to replay the whole goddamn game for a scene I told you I haven't seen before?
                How is this possible? It's literally a mandatory scene in the game. Did you not play ReMIND? It's even one of the early cutscenes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon when both Ansem and Xemnas died both Xehanorth and Terra reformed, Xehanorth just took Terra before the party could find him

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I thought Ansem was cool in the first game but every game adds some new wrinkle to his character that makes him lamer and more confusing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ansem was the third in command of the Real Organization XIII.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly what I'm talking about, I don't know what the frick that means and he's been demoted to third place b***h for the old loser guy from Birth by Sleep who even stole his outfit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the old loser guy from Birth by Sleep who even stole his outfit.
                Ansem is the loser. Master Xehanort is kino. Get your facts straight. Ansem stole Xehanort's outfit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah this old cuck is just not cool. He's not hot. He's not voiced by Billy Zane. All his voice actors die. He didn't have a spooky journal you could collect and read about his descent into madness, like some anime lovecraft character. Actually he might but by this point the lose is so confusing and stupid I don't care anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah Master Xehanort is just cool. Ansem was a cuck since day 1. Him being Xehanort's b***h is just going along with his character.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He didn't have a spooky journal you could collect and read about his descent into madness
                Did you not read the Xehanort Reports from BBS?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Actually he might but by this point the lore is so confusing and stupid I don't care anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh okay I think it all just clicked, and I think I get what you're getting at here. Old man Xehanort lost his body in BBS, put his heart in Terra, then Terra loses his "will" locking his heart out of control of the body. Terra-nort separates himself, then when Sora kills both his Heartless and Nobody, it caused them to reform both Terra's, and Xehanort's body, because Terra's Heartless Ansem was both Xehanort's and Terra's at the same time (the guardian), and again, Old-man Xehanort had lost his body 10 years prior by his own hand when he sacrificed it to take over Terra, which fulfilled the requirements to restore your whole self (lose both your heart and body). Terra is then left whole but comatose without his will left behind at the Keyblade Graveyard. This is when Old-man Xehanort abducted him and then re-awakened him by re-Norting him. At this point he's basically exactly the same as Terra-nort was in the past, just instead of having a whole Xehanort heart controlling him, it's just a piece explaining why both of them are there at the same time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is when Old-man Xehanort abducted him and then re-awakened him by re-Norting him. At this point he's basically exactly the same as Terra-nort was in the past, just instead of having a whole Xehanort heart controlling him, it's just a piece explaining why both of them are there at the same time.
                No you dumbfrick. The game already explained Terranort's deal in KH3. Just play the game and shut the frick up already.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not arguing he's a time traveler anymore dipshit, I'm agreeing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Terra is then left whole but comatose without his will left behind at the Keyblade Graveyard. This is when Old-man Xehanort abducted him and then re-awakened him by re-Norting him. At this point he's basically exactly the same as Terra-nort was in the past, just instead of having a whole Xehanort heart controlling him, it's just a piece explaining why both of them are there at the same time.
                Exactly, the poor fricker just got unlucky that they abducted him and Re norted him before Sora and Cia could find him

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Young Xehanort for SOME reason has time travel powers where he can bring someone across time, but they need vessels to store themselves within since he can only bring the heart, not the body. You eventually have to go back to your origin time anyway and lose the memories of the experience, though hearts are bullshit and can still get reflexive memories of the experience.

                Cue Xehanorts planning with Xehanorts and accumulating an entire faction of people they're planning to possess plus Vanitas (and Xion for some moronic reason) and storing the actual time travelers inside of replicas for the duration in the attempts to do the Keyblade War by cheating the count on 13 darknesses so that Kingdom Hearts will show up sooner. It works.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Young Xehanort for SOME reason has time travel powers where he can bring someone across time
                What do you mean "some" reason? We were blatantly told the reason in DDD.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't played DDD since the week it released, which was like.. 12 years ago now, so excuse me for not remembering exact details.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then don't say stupid shit about a game you barely played.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not recalling something isn't anywhere near as bad as trying to cite something else entirely different and botching the whole explanation. Chill out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Young Xehanort for SOME reason has time travel powers where he can bring someone across time
                What do you mean "some" reason? We were blatantly told the reason in DDD.

                Yeah. When Apprentice Xehanort became Ansem, he lost his physical form so he could travel to the past and set Young Xehanort on his Journey. Even opened a corridor of darkness to send Young Xehanort to Scala Ad Caelum in Dark Road.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Still wild that Ansem would proceed to just live on Destiny Islands for decades until Sora and Riku came along.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He might have gone out for solo adventures, who knows.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I suppose that's true too. We already know he can open portals to travel to other worlds. Though he can't interact with anyone unless he possesses someone like he did with Riku.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ansem SOD, Xemnas, Young Xehanort, Vanitas, and Dark Riku (Riku Replica from COM) were all time traveling to the future. Their hearts got put in Vexen's Replicas. Master Xehanort came back when after both Ansem and Xemnas died. Terra's heart was still in Guardian, so time traveling Terra-Xehanort possessed his body. Saix, Xigbar, Marluxia, Larxene, Luxord, and Demyx came back as humans, and then turned into Heartless and Nobodies again. Xion got put in a New Replica body.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ansem and Terranort get a slot each. I still don't get how or why this is the case. The only difference between these two characters is what clothes they are wearing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Xion got put in a New Replica body
                Xion was also a time traveler like the others. However she was put in a new replica body like you said.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Xion isn't time traveling. They literally reconstructed her completely from scratch via Vexen's records, as Saix explains. She had no memories of who or what she was before and neither did anyone else. But through the power of hearts, plot and fanservice, being around Sora and Axel brought her memories back because Nomura couldn't go two seconds without sucking off fans of the worst written game in the series because it's, for some reason, stupidly popular in the fandom.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >worst written game in the series
                Coded and the gacha games exist.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both piss and shit over Days specially the gacha games

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Coded is a well written game. It just didn't matter until later. And the X games are unironically the best written games in the series.

                Days is the worst because it took the entire theme of Namine that CoM wrote very well on how her inserting herself into Sora's life and memories to be the most important thing to him and his past all of a sudden was wrong and then completely fricking missed the point and made Xion and played her straight as a full on self-insert character of the story's writer (And writer of the BBS novels) who Nomura designed Xion after. Xion is garbage and so is Days.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >self-insert character of the story's writer (And writer of the BBS novels) who Nomura designed Xion after.
                Neat, now I hate Xion even more

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >self-insert character of the story's writer (And writer of the BBS novels) who Nomura designed Xion after.
                Neat, now I hate Xion even more

                How can the literal clone of one of the main character's be a "self-insert"? get your heads out of your asses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >clone of sora
                >is a woman
                Anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because her character design was made to emulate the same hair as the woman who wrote the character and story. Nomura made her hair black for that reason. it's also why her hair isn't the same as KH1 Kairi's when you put them side-by-side. Maybe do your research, Xion simp. You can literally just look it up on Google and find this info in an interview.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Woman write KH
                >the first the she does is make her self insert, then pair her OC with Roxas and Axel, she's also super special and can wield a keyblade and is also the tragic puppet girlfriend of Roxas and the true reason for him to use Oathkeeper
                Holy frick DiZ save me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >self-insert character of the story's writer (And writer of the BBS novels) who Nomura designed Xion after.
                Neat, now I hate Xion even more

                Because her character design was made to emulate the same hair as the woman who wrote the character and story. Nomura made her hair black for that reason. it's also why her hair isn't the same as KH1 Kairi's when you put them side-by-side. Maybe do your research, Xion simp. You can literally just look it up on Google and find this info in an interview.

                Supremely based.
                Sometimes I feel like I am the insane one for how many people praise days for having the best story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Waifugays, that never played the game and only read the manga or watched the movie, after 340 days of filler missions you want to kill everyone in that shit game

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that never played the game
                Buddy, I bought Days the year it came out (was a junior in high school) and I still love days story. My favorite part is when Roxas storms out of the castle and beat Saix, which the Days movie cut out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My favorite part is when Roxas storms out of the castle and beat Saix,
                That and roxas busting out the dual wield for the first time are the 2 only good moments in that game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So where exactly was the True Organization XIII living at during KH3? Keyblade Graveyard doesn't look habitable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                isn't the world that never was still intact? they have a whole castle there.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In fairness this was so poorly explained they added a cutscene explaining it all in remind to clarify all the bits they failed to mention round 1

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They changed it in the mobile games. Now Vanitas is like some dark being called a Darkling that hitched a ride on Ventus (through the time machine escape pod from KH 1) from the past (Ventus was originally from the Union cross timeline set hundreds of years ago) that gained it's own form when Ventus's heart was split in two. So, he IS still half of Ventus's heart (the dark half) but he's also infused with the "Darkling" from the mobile game so he's like double dark.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dark being called a Darkling
            No, he's a Darkness. Darklings are what happens when a Keyblade wielder goes Heartless.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That machine didn't make sense since KH2 where we see that the PCM room is the one from where the emblem heartless are being made in masse

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what exactly is Vanitas anyways?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ...that's it? It's basically the same meaning just worded differently. There's definitely way worse examples out there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, worse stuff would be Xehanort's speech to Sora. Yeah, I know, tumblr.
      https://phoenix-downer.tumblr.com/post/183399195018/sora-and-xehanorts-final-conversation-japanese

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i just read through this whole thing and there's not a single point in the japanese that was not maintained in the english. it's staggeringly for square enix, who are known to "punch up" dry dialogue. all of it is preserved very precisely.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's probably why Kingdom Hearts is so weird in dialogue and has been since 2. Or, hell, Chain of Memories. No one speaks naturally, everyone speaks very literally and then turn shit like "hurt" into nouns and verbs on a regular basis. The likelihood is that Nomura probably oversees the localization efforts personally to make sure what is written gets the message across appropriately. Then you look at shit like FF7 Remake/Rebirth and it suffers exactly what you say, "punched up" localization that can change the entire meaning of things so much that the final lines of Remake actually got rewritten and redubbed with Rebirth's release because they misinterpeted the meaning of a phrase that was integral to the plot.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there's no winning.
            i think at this point nomura really hates the localizers for turning his projects more comedic. he was pissed about stranger of paradise, and half of that comes from the sarcastic tone of the english version.
            ff7r does very well in the goofy character building scenes imo and then falls apart when it needs to be serious. you'd think they'd know by now when to write fluff and when to adhere strictly to the original.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the kicker is that FF7 itself is a mixed bag in the script. the fun that folks remember tends to be the English localization efforts of one man with a 30 day time limit rushing everything forwards, resulting in some garbled meanings and typos (including Aeris on the character naming screen), and when someone translated the JP dialogue directly, it was swamped with complaints of technically making far more legible sense but having none of the charm and appeal of the official localization. Kitase and Nojima were shit writers then, and surprise, they're still shit writers now when it comes to trying to make a serious story, their appeal has entirely been in character interactions.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they live and die by the characters.
                plot is like a distant third priority after theme and character. you'd rather have cloud and tifa communicate like actual human beings than toss accurate light novel dialogue back and forth

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nomura probably oversees the localization efforts personally to make sure what is written gets the message across appropriately
            Considering KH is owned by an American company it makes sense for him to get autistic about the English script.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Huh, I just read it as well and it's pretty much exactly the same. What is that homosexual OP on about?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            probably just the recent bandwagon of b***hing and moaning about localizers. if they don't post definitive proof then they typically just want to start drama or are stealthily making generals through argumentative fallacies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is so autistic. It is essentially the same thing.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that a Square Enix mainline game? Why, in the name of everything that you hold dear, would you care for a story made by Square Enix?
    They are batshit-insane at best. Just terrible beat yet another god at the end boring most of the time, written like a 10 year old writes fanfics. Who the frick cares what they are saying?
    It because if played a lot of vidya, I'm beginning to think Japan CANNOT into writing if it is to save their life.
    I hope their literature level in books is better, for them. I wouldn't know though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What are some good stories according to you?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah and that's what makes a fun good story. you people act like you read books go read a fricking book for a "good story"

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Have KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5+2.5 ReMIX on Epic
    wait shit uhh do I buy the rest of them on Steam or Epic?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LIGHT!
    BUT, DARKNESS.
    LIGHT?
    DARKNESS!
    LIGHT...
    ...DARKNESS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the best KH video

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying its not.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hmmmm... But... Can one... create... a Dark Light?..

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >6/13
    >13

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >6/13
      >not on 7/13

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope this mod gets ported to 2.5 Until then, PS2 ISO it is.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that there is STILL no justifiable reason for Kairi to have a keyblade

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >oopsie, performed the rite of succession by accident
      honestly everything with Sora and Kairi becomes more moronic the further the series went on. i'm still baffled that the entire endgame of KH3 is Sora using an ability in a way that defies the laws of nature before he even realizes he's doing it wrong and him combining it with Kairi somehow creates an entire alternate world timeline.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does anyone besides Sora and Mickey, and Riku have keyblades? The frick does Axel have a Keyblade, and an ugly one at that?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I read it and there are like only two phrases where the japanese is better

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All localizations are superior to the original as Japanese is not a good language for storytelling

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is his problem?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Square Enix not allowing Nomura to finish V13

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He could have done Verum Rex first before KH4 if he wanted.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He couldn't and makes no sense for being anything but part of KH, reminder that Yozora and the others belong to Disney just like the rest of OCs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He could have done Verum Rex first before KH4 if he wanted.

        He was too much of a weak homosexual and now he's making FF7 fanfiction. Reynatis is our only hope for a Versus XIII game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Couldn't find his buddy Oswald

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Will he be an ally or enemy in KH4?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        both

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think KH3 in general just degraded everything. Pushing aside the massive drop in dub quality where everyone's more wooden than normal by this series' standards, so much shit happened to set up future plot points and so many characters basically degraded into exaggerated caricatures of themselves. Vanitas being worse feels like it should be a marked and notable character change that might be a plot point, but no, he's just been pressed down into being evil for the sake of evil.

          >Vanitas being worse feels like it should be a marked and notable character change that might be a plot point, but no, he's just been pressed down into being evil for the sake of evil.
          He's always been that way you fricking moron.

          He was never an okay written bad guy.

          He was a entertaining villain. Not every villain needs to be deep and complex.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How will he be both?

          the secret boss is always the main villain of the next game

          Terra wasn't the main villain in BBS.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He'll be a villain for a little while but revealed to have like a noble motivation or sad backstory or something, and then become pals with Sora. Like Roxas, or Riku, or Axel.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >How will he be both?
              He would be presented as an antagonist to Sora but end up helping him later on. Or he ends up helping Sora early on before becoming an antagonist for him.
              [...]
              Verum Rex IS part of KH you idiot.

              But he blatantly said he was told to save Sora and is determined to do so.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we don't know what he's saving him from and his idea of saving him was fighting him. he might have a noble goal but that could still put him at odds with sora.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but he seemed pretty content when Sora beats him when he told him his power wasn't needed yet in saving him.

                Yeah, and the he fights. I think it will be like that, He'll think he's doing the right thing and helping and then when he realized he's wrong or he's been used by the Master of Masters or whoever the villain will be and he'll team up with Sora. Or maybe he is right about whatever the plot is and Sora is wrong and that's why the have recurring boss fights until the end. Something along those lines is what I'm expecting.

                Eh. I suppose I could see that. Maybe he's working with the Master of Masters in whatever plan involving Sora but it seems like he does want to help Sora.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >suppose I could see that. Maybe he's working with the Master of Masters in whatever plan involving Sora but it seems like he does want to help Sora.
                he barely knows sora. he's only been told to save him from something. the whole encounter was a dream that didn't make sense even to him. yozora is probably almost as clueless as sora in what's going on between them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, and the he fights. I think it will be like that, He'll think he's doing the right thing and helping and then when he realized he's wrong or he's been used by the Master of Masters or whoever the villain will be and he'll team up with Sora. Or maybe he is right about whatever the plot is and Sora is wrong and that's why the have recurring boss fights until the end. Something along those lines is what I'm expecting.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >How will he be both?
            He would be presented as an antagonist to Sora but end up helping him later on. Or he ends up helping Sora early on before becoming an antagonist for him.

            He couldn't and makes no sense for being anything but part of KH, reminder that Yozora and the others belong to Disney just like the rest of OCs

            Verum Rex IS part of KH you idiot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the secret boss is always the main villain of the next game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah just like Terra or Julius or Xemnas in KH1 FM

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Xemnas
            Well Xemnas was the main villain of KH2 tbf. Even if he wasn't the main villain in KHCoM(though he's the leader of the organization that the main villain is part of).

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we're really pulling this anti-localization autism on kingdom hearts when the japanese exclusive re-releases have english as the default voice option?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is literally the only part that actually changes the meaning of the sentence, the rest is just changing it from generic bad guy JP script to teenage edgelord

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i love how half of this thread is people being confused about plot points because they either forgot or didn't play certain things and the other half is basically repeating "what, didn't you play this / find these secret items" at them repeatedly. i'd think at this point both sides are kind of in a weird rut here. the explanations may exist but the fact that secret, optional items are necessary to make sense of certain plot points has never looked good on this series, but a lot of people also just generally fell off in giving a shit for the details after a certain point.

    don't even get me started on Subject X

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not our fault you're too stupid to pay attention to plot points being explained in the games.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        KH shouldn't need to have all those bullshit plot points and threads being thrown in by the truckload just because Nomura thought of something cool while he was taking a shit. It's literal story bloat.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >get explanations for most of those
          >still complains that the story makes no sense
          I think you just have the attention span of a toddler is all.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering the sheer number of exposition dumps, secret files, post-ending teasers and endgame/post-game super bosses, all combined with Japanese-to-English dialogue that can be hard to keep a good track of because of how it all runs together, plus 11 games over twenty years (with one of them having a re-release for the gacha that added more story on top combined with an extra game's worth of story in Dark Road) and an extra movie compilation of plot points from one of those games in a different perspective/angle? And most people's exposure to the gacha plot is fricking Youtube videos? It's not your fault, and some anons definitely have ADHD, but it's not entirely "our" faults either.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like more of a you problem tbqh.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >secret items
      This is not Dark Souls, the game tells you everything, the only missable thing is if you didn't play the game or read the informs that you get after beating the bosses

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ice Cream.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is axel wearing a skirt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Long shirt

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so a dress?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Between Kairi, Namine, Xion and Aqua, which girl is likely to bang Vanitas?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ventus

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      aqua

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      none

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          vanitas is unfrickable

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he can't be fricked?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How? He's literally Sora's twin brother.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sora

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Be honest anons. When did you see this coming, if at all?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The same time I realized Vanitas was Darkness.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I knew something was up from the moment he did the "may your heart be your guiding key" thing that implied that Braig knew a lot more than he already did as the supposed right hand man to Xehanort, especially with the dramatic cut mid-sentence implying even just the line alone was a bombshell, and this was despite me not playing Union whatsoever.
      I just didn't see the full extent of it coming and thought it was abandoned to be fleshed out later, like the Keyblade wielders in Org13.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was basedjacking irl when I saw this.
      Then again when I heard the Somnus riff play

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The moment he said the KHX phrase

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't even put the pieces but I wasn't particularly surprised. I mean even as far back as Vanilla KH2 he was presented as someone who seemed to be far more knowledgeable than he probably

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >4 days before Elden Ring DLC
    Do they just not care or?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is there confirmation on the price? I know what it costs on EGS, I mean, do we know what it will cost on steam?
    >probably the same
    okay but do we KNOW?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's SE man, they're probably gonna charge the same price like they did for FF7R

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So we don't know, thanks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't need hard confirmation with SE because they've spent over 2 decades being moronic

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Riku and Yozora look the same?
    Could Yozora be Riku's Nobody but with Sora's heart in him like Ventus and Sora?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nomura wanted Sora to say "Woah this Yozora looks like Riku" in Toy Box world

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As usual, the BBS characters are the biggest factor that pushes towards playing kingdom hearts in japanese dub.
    The only other reason I would play it in jap is so it could help me learn japanese.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1.5+2.5 comes with 1, 2, Chain of Memories and Brith by sleep
    >2.8 just comes with DDD and a small little Aqua DLC
    Why didn't they just bundle these together?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are in every platform except PC, they're just "the story so far". PC they want to nickle and dime because dumb homosexuals will buy it anyway.
      Original release it was that way because square was really into selling a game just for the demo/tech demo, see:ff type-0 "remaster" just to sell ff15 ep duscae.
      1.5 and 2.5 were also separately sold back then as well.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So Venty-Wenty
    I'm gonna have to stop reading there. English Vanitas is based. I hate Organization XIII for stealing the spotlight so I'm glad he roasted one of it's most prominent members. I would rather deal with corny dialogue than having to read regardless if the person who's talking at the time is a male lead that sounds like a girl for no reason or not.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >inb4 that's Roxas, not Ventus
      Tomatoes tomotoes. Also, the birth by sleep gang were just as bad. I hate it when a franchise has a reasonable looking female, only for an ugo to show up and hog all the attention forever. It doesn't help that Aqua is also a no good """female""" water elemental either. Wow. I've got issues.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're almost collectible in nature.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so why does whats his name from bbs look exactly like roxas, and this guy look like sora?
    I tapped out after 2, tried to keep up but waiting like a fricking decade for 3 just bored me, and I didn't care for the weird combat of bbs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sora was a harlequin baby or something and ventus had his heart torn in half so they made a Force Dyad
      then when ventus took a 10 year nap his heart went to sora which gave him deus ex machina powers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vanitas looks Sora because baby Sora connected his heart with Ven's broken one to save Ven's life. Since this filled the spot Vanitas was missing from, it gave Vanitas Sora's appearance. Nomura said if Riku did it, Vanitas would have looked like Riku.

      For Roxas, Ven's heart was still inside Sora's body when Sora became a Heartless and Nobody. So, Sora's Nobody (Roxas) gained Ven's appearance. I guess that plus Kairi's heart being released from Sora's body is why Namine is blonde.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sora was a harlequin baby or something and ventus had his heart torn in half so they made a Force Dyad
        then when ventus took a 10 year nap his heart went to sora which gave him deus ex machina powers

        that is some bologna frickshit, but thank you. Maybe I'll give it a try, girl I'm dating is a big old disney adult so she'd probably get a kick out of it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The original idea was for Sora's unborn heart to connect to Ventus. But because of western views of whether life begins at conception or not, Nomura changed this. So, yeah, the abortion debate affected Kingdom Hearts.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is that were the name "Birthless" came from?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The original idea was for Sora's unborn heart to connect to Ventus. But because of western views of whether life begins at conception or not, Nomura changed this. So, yeah, the abortion debate affected Kingdom Hearts.

          >Nomura, T.
          >- Considering the conversation between Sora and Ventus in the ending of the Last Episode, is this saying that the "just-born heart" that Ventus connects with in the opening is Sora's?

          >Nomura: Yes. At first we supposed that it could be Sora before he was born, but because of opinions from overseas that "the heart doesn't exist until after birth", we discarded that portrayal.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The original idea was for Sora's unborn heart to connect to Ventus. But because of western views of whether life begins at conception or not, Nomura changed this. So, yeah, the abortion debate affected Kingdom Hearts.

            fricking hyperkek.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't play anything after 2, why is Sora evil now?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's an evil within another character who just coincidentally took on Sora's appearance because of the link between those characters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's not sora
      >why does he look like s-
      don't ask.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KH is Disney.
    Disney characters are English.
    English is the original.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep coping.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KH is only partially Disney and they're not even in full control. It was even revealed that while they and Square were both totally on board with Sakurai to add Sora into Smash, the reason why it took 6 years for it to happens was because Nomura had the final say so and he said "No".

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