>kinda sucks
How? It has 1ms input latency in wired mode and an excellent working and feeling dpad + buttons.
There's literally nothing else on the market that comes close right now
anon hes making shit up
no one on this board is ever genuinely honest about controllers that or they're gorillas who cannot really even properly judge controllers
since 1. they're delusional 2. they think there's any difference between third party companies and microsoft and nintendo >inb4 some retard with a dualButtSense saying it's anything but the worst modern controller
anon hes making shit up
no one on this board is ever genuinely honest about controllers that or they're gorillas who cannot really even properly judge controllers
since 1. they're delusional 2. they think there's any difference between third party companies and microsoft and nintendo >inb4 some retard with a dualButtSense saying it's anything but the worst modern controller
I don't like how it feels in my hands and it kept disconnecting from my Switch and PC for whatever reason.
>disconnecting
I only ever had that happen to me with controllers when the adapter was pointing the wrong direction and was being blocked by something other than that is just very old bad bluetooth controllers wii remotes are utter horseshit if you don't have the computer right in front of you
>BT not 2.4ghz version
4.9 frame/81.24 MS latency is unacceptable on switch. Retrobit's Saturn pads come in at 4f/67.23ms which is closest available latency to joycons which clock in at 3.65f/60.59ms. neither of them have great build quality but 8bitdo's is better. I alternated between m30 and retrobit's Saturn clone for a while until I got sick of the tiny XYZ buttons.
The Real King forgot his image.
my current daily driver. The click novelty is satisfying if you're playing a game where you regularly move the stick from a neutral position like a shmup. It being a digital "stick" gives it a feeling similar to an arcade stick so it feels snappier than your generic analog stick. Sadly you gotta hold your thumb high to get clean diagonals. I haven't seen latency tests with it but it's probably as a bad or worse than 8bitdo's other offerings on switch just because I have run it through BT through their wireless adapter 2. I've mostly been using it because having the 2.4ghz receiver in my PC and the BT adapter in my Switch makes it convenient when I swap platforms.
Chink micro switches that break after a few sessions
i've run it through at least 20 hours of shmups with no issue.
My Octa's on its way out from wear. Any recommendations for six button pads with little latency? I play a *lot* of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 so durability would also be nice.
>Any recommendations for six button pads with little latency?
Platform? I only looked into latency on Switch controllers because there's an unusual amount of shmups on there. here's a doc outlining the latency on different switch controllers made by the youtube channel shmup junkie. He also did the test in my previous post
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5yqmca4vvlr6qg/Controller%20Test%20Database.xlsx?dl=0
Retrobit's BT Saturn pad has the lowest latency available for the Switch. If you're on PC I recommend you do what I did and just get a USB Saturn controller, gut the board and pop it into a real Saturn controller. This mod is really easy to do and just requires a screwdriver. You get the durability and quality of the real thing with USB compatibility. A brook adapter might be able to get it to work with your console of choice but I haven't used one. A brook adapter would probably increase the latency to some degree as well. Just be warned, real saturn pads have a kind of soft, gummy feel to their movement. Real pads might feel muddy to you if you're used to modern clones.
Switch has inherent dogshit latency
The m30 line has excellent latency numbers, and connecting the 2.4ghz over usb gets you 1ms
https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency
>live in a non eu country >gonna be fucked with import fees
I really want this one for 2d games to replace the ds3, my thumb hurts after few hours of dpad usage
yup, got one of these, tossed it out of a passenger airliner into a canyon, later found it, took a big dumpy doo doo on it, planted C4 on it and shot it with a panzershrek
I have one of these
It's not bad but I was never impressed by it
I don't have an original saturn pad and apparently people complain that it has no pivot and you can basically press the whole thing. I just wonder how the real deal is.
>no pivot
I think this was an issue with the very first run years ago, but the stem under the dpad is hollow so you can stick a tightly folded up piece of paper or something in there to adjust the pivot to your liking
Fighting commander is good, but it is a pain that Hori doesn't have it on their website anymore. They only have the octa model, and I've heard mixed results about it.
See the thing is: I have this exact controller and I am certain abso-fucking-lutely nothing went wrong with it. It was the most reliable thing in his tiny plastic garbage can.
It's probably still sitting on the bottom of the ocean, unharmed.
>that controller is shattered into a thousand pieces
Never found it, it's probably still at the bottom of the ocean in one piece. It's that fucking powerful
this image reminds me of any 3dprinter retard in a niche group showing off some shitty mod they printed like it didn't cost them thousands of dollars for something superfluous
I'm hoping for hall effect and accurate as possible to original analog stick
otherwise I'm just going to ignore it and probably wait for retrobit's next updated version
The stick accuracy, more than anything, is gonna make or break it. If nothing else it'll likely be of better build quality than other "modernized" style N64 controller offerings.
I'd rather just get the NSO N64 controller.
The N64 NSO controllers suck on PC. The latency/polling rate on them is fucking abysmal.
Not as far as I know. Can't use the NSO controllers wired either on PC (including the NES/SNES ones, and probably the Genesis ones as well), because Nintendo had to pull a "Nintendo" in ONE way or another, so you don't even get any possibility to overclock USB polling rate.
this is the main thing that making me stay away from third party n64 pads for pc emulation
I want a pad as close to the original as possible without the stick issues
I use a 8bitdo pro 2 and a xbox sex pad for most of my shit but I like having authenticity if possible except for gamecube
fuck that controller and it's absurd layout and dogshit c stick
Diagonals were an issue on the M30. I'd say the Retrobit is more cheaply made but I would say that the dpad is better.
I tested both with 2D Mario, Castlevania, and Tekken.
>Diagonals were an issue on the M30
i'm not sure if it was the receiver, the game, my internet connection or the pad but when I was using my 2.4g M30 for f-zero 99 the pad would straight up not register my inputs sometimes. Buttons & pad just straight up nonfunctional for a second or two. Never encountered the same issue with the neo geo mini, pro controller or retrobit saturn pad. saturn pad's issue was the dpad breaking lmao
>Your thumb rests on B, giving you quick access to 5 fucking buttons with minimal thumb movement
not that anon but larger buttons would be preferred for the top row so it's easier to press two vertical buttons at once. the design aspect for minimal thumb movement is true, due to an injury sega style 6 button pads are the only ones with comfortable face buttons for me because the distance between the buttons on the rows is shorter than buttons on other controllers. On a cross shaped layout pressing the south and east buttons is far harder for me than pressing B/C at the same time. The tiny XYZ buttons make the distance greater on the top row so it's very difficult for me to press any of them at the same time and doing something like B/X is basically impossible for me to do reliably.
i didn't mean to amass a collection I simply wanted to try controllers. Now in this room alone I have both wireless M30 versions, a USB saturn pad, a BT saturn pad, a 2.4g saturn pad, a neogeo pad, a PS4 controller and switch pro controller. this isn't even where I have my consoles. i don't recommend it unless you play 2D action games more than 3D games because the only time you're really going to notice the difference is when you're doing a lot of dpad movement. and no, platformers don't count because they're mainly holding right.
Looks like a baby's toy.
so does my dick, and yet if i give it to a baby to play with people will get angry at me for sure.
I have one of these and it kinda sucks. Ended up buying a Saturn control copy.
>kinda sucks
How? It has 1ms input latency in wired mode and an excellent working and feeling dpad + buttons.
There's literally nothing else on the market that comes close right now
anon hes making shit up
no one on this board is ever genuinely honest about controllers that or they're gorillas who cannot really even properly judge controllers
since 1. they're delusional 2. they think there's any difference between third party companies and microsoft and nintendo
>inb4 some retard with a dualButtSense saying it's anything but the worst modern controller
I don't like how it feels in my hands and it kept disconnecting from my Switch and PC for whatever reason.
The dpad is much closer to your thumb on the m30, which makes it superior
>disconnecting
I only ever had that happen to me with controllers when the adapter was pointing the wrong direction and was being blocked by something other than that is just very old bad bluetooth controllers wii remotes are utter horseshit if you don't have the computer right in front of you
>BT not 2.4ghz version
4.9 frame/81.24 MS latency is unacceptable on switch. Retrobit's Saturn pads come in at 4f/67.23ms which is closest available latency to joycons which clock in at 3.65f/60.59ms. neither of them have great build quality but 8bitdo's is better. I alternated between m30 and retrobit's Saturn clone for a while until I got sick of the tiny XYZ buttons.
my current daily driver. The click novelty is satisfying if you're playing a game where you regularly move the stick from a neutral position like a shmup. It being a digital "stick" gives it a feeling similar to an arcade stick so it feels snappier than your generic analog stick. Sadly you gotta hold your thumb high to get clean diagonals. I haven't seen latency tests with it but it's probably as a bad or worse than 8bitdo's other offerings on switch just because I have run it through BT through their wireless adapter 2. I've mostly been using it because having the 2.4ghz receiver in my PC and the BT adapter in my Switch makes it convenient when I swap platforms.
i've run it through at least 20 hours of shmups with no issue.
My Octa's on its way out from wear. Any recommendations for six button pads with little latency? I play a *lot* of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 so durability would also be nice.
>Any recommendations for six button pads with little latency?
Platform? I only looked into latency on Switch controllers because there's an unusual amount of shmups on there. here's a doc outlining the latency on different switch controllers made by the youtube channel shmup junkie. He also did the test in my previous post
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5yqmca4vvlr6qg/Controller%20Test%20Database.xlsx?dl=0
Retrobit's BT Saturn pad has the lowest latency available for the Switch. If you're on PC I recommend you do what I did and just get a USB Saturn controller, gut the board and pop it into a real Saturn controller. This mod is really easy to do and just requires a screwdriver. You get the durability and quality of the real thing with USB compatibility. A brook adapter might be able to get it to work with your console of choice but I haven't used one. A brook adapter would probably increase the latency to some degree as well. Just be warned, real saturn pads have a kind of soft, gummy feel to their movement. Real pads might feel muddy to you if you're used to modern clones.
Switch has inherent dogshit latency
The m30 line has excellent latency numbers, and connecting the 2.4ghz over usb gets you 1ms
https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency
I don't get the logic of controllers having worse latency than others even when wired
is it a problem with the pcb or just faulty design?
>There's literally nothing else on the market that comes close right now
Mr. Advertiser, please.
You first
god the switch style sticks looks so out of place
so about does anything else on a saturn pad
>live in a non eu country
>gonna be fucked with import fees
I really want this one for 2d games to replace the ds3, my thumb hurts after few hours of dpad usage
yup, got one of these, tossed it out of a passenger airliner into a canyon, later found it, took a big dumpy doo doo on it, planted C4 on it and shot it with a panzershrek
I have one of these
It's not bad but I was never impressed by it
I don't have an original saturn pad and apparently people complain that it has no pivot and you can basically press the whole thing. I just wonder how the real deal is.
Ergonomically worse not much of a difference otherwise
it's a fantastic arcade and fight pad
>no pivot
I think this was an issue with the very first run years ago, but the stem under the dpad is hollow so you can stick a tightly folded up piece of paper or something in there to adjust the pivot to your liking
More like 8bitNO. Terrible QC issues with those guys.
If you want a new 6 button controller with a good d-pad get pic related.
Nothing beats the original saturn controllers.
You can get USB adapters for peanuts too.
>post-2000s HORI
Hori did make this controller though
Fine, their arcade and specialty controllers are still good. But their conventional controllers suck now, I'm still standing by that.
I got the ps4 and switch versions of this hori controller and surprisingly my fighting game friends prefer the regular ps4 controller.
The generic nuHori d-pad is just okay. The M30's Sega copypasta is considerably better.
Fighting commander is good, but it is a pain that Hori doesn't have it on their website anymore. They only have the octa model, and I've heard mixed results about it.
I like my Octa but the dpad is something you have to adjust for. Which especially sucks since they got it right with the FC4.
how would you even hold a controller with analog sticks that tall
did the retard put it on a table and pinch them?
It's for more precise control or something, not really sure, seems like bs
more travel means finer control
doesn't work that way when the analog stick is that raised to begin with
you cannot even hold the controller
See the thing is: I have this exact controller and I am certain abso-fucking-lutely nothing went wrong with it. It was the most reliable thing in his tiny plastic garbage can.
It's probably still sitting on the bottom of the ocean, unharmed.
That's how much I trust my Logitech F310
Anon the sub imploded
that controller is shattered into a thousand pieces
Delta P strikes again
>that controller is shattered into a thousand pieces
Never found it, it's probably still at the bottom of the ocean in one piece. It's that fucking powerful
can't find what isn't there
But it is there.
but then they would have found it
it sticks out like a sore axe wound
>A tiny controller sticks out
nah
this image reminds me of any 3dprinter retard in a niche group showing off some shitty mod they printed like it didn't cost them thousands of dollars for something superfluous
also why does it have such tweaked nipples
Genuflect
Finally a chinkheld worth buying
they make one for joyless fucks like you too.
meant for
they're not great. I barely play with mine and the right button rebounds noticeably weaker than the other directions. it's only 3 months old ffs
Wash your hands so your controllers don't get gunked up
how do you get windows to recognize all the 6 keys?? the L and R buttons also dont seem to work
could there be a market for weak handheld pcs that can run fighting games and have a good replaceable dpad?
No
Yeah, it's called the 64GB Deck. No one else will sell cheap UMPCs that aren't dual cores pieces of shit that barely run Windows.
that d-pad looks horrific
Retard.
I'm not sorry that I don't want chronic arthritis before 40.
Have you considered my peanus weenus
The real king arrives
The Real King forgot his image.
is absolutely worthless in anything but playing metal slug and 2 other games
Chink micro switches that break after a few sessions
Too small. Hurt my hands playing SF6.
6 face buttons is the superior layout.
>B-but muh space for muh sticks
Fuck off
Thoughts on the 8bitdo controller teased for the Analogue N64 console?
I'm hoping for hall effect and accurate as possible to original analog stick
otherwise I'm just going to ignore it and probably wait for retrobit's next updated version
The stick accuracy, more than anything, is gonna make or break it. If nothing else it'll likely be of better build quality than other "modernized" style N64 controller offerings.
The N64 NSO controllers suck on PC. The latency/polling rate on them is fucking abysmal.
Is there no aftermarket software to correct that? I value the form of the thing as much as the function when it comes to modeling the N64 controller.
Not as far as I know. Can't use the NSO controllers wired either on PC (including the NES/SNES ones, and probably the Genesis ones as well), because Nintendo had to pull a "Nintendo" in ONE way or another, so you don't even get any possibility to overclock USB polling rate.
Should have been a trident. Imagine paying $800+scalping+tip for that and trying to play a 2D platformer.
this is the main thing that making me stay away from third party n64 pads for pc emulation
I want a pad as close to the original as possible without the stick issues
I just use a DS4 and emulate N64 because it's a worthless console that's not worth any money spent on it
I use a 8bitdo pro 2 and a xbox sex pad for most of my shit but I like having authenticity if possible except for gamecube
fuck that controller and it's absurd layout and dogshit c stick
Subhuman
Name 10 nshitty4 games that aren't Mario or Zelda
what 2d platformer are you playing on n64
hes probably talking about kirby if not mischief makers
I'd rather just get the NSO N64 controller.
I'll use ps switch pro, thanks.
Diagonals were an issue on the M30. I'd say the Retrobit is more cheaply made but I would say that the dpad is better.
I tested both with 2D Mario, Castlevania, and Tekken.
You're probably the only person out there with that opinion
>Diagonals were an issue on the M30
i'm not sure if it was the receiver, the game, my internet connection or the pad but when I was using my 2.4g M30 for f-zero 99 the pad would straight up not register my inputs sometimes. Buttons & pad just straight up nonfunctional for a second or two. Never encountered the same issue with the neo geo mini, pro controller or retrobit saturn pad. saturn pad's issue was the dpad breaking lmao
I actively dislike the smaller top row of buttons.
Another retard.
Your thumb rests on B, giving you quick access to 5 fucking buttons with minimal thumb movement
>Your thumb rests on B, giving you quick access to 5 fucking buttons with minimal thumb movement
not that anon but larger buttons would be preferred for the top row so it's easier to press two vertical buttons at once. the design aspect for minimal thumb movement is true, due to an injury sega style 6 button pads are the only ones with comfortable face buttons for me because the distance between the buttons on the rows is shorter than buttons on other controllers. On a cross shaped layout pressing the south and east buttons is far harder for me than pressing B/C at the same time. The tiny XYZ buttons make the distance greater on the top row so it's very difficult for me to press any of them at the same time and doing something like B/X is basically impossible for me to do reliably.
Eh...
I have 2.4ghz version and I quite like it, but still prefer D-Pad on series x/s controller.
Genuinely one of the best racing controllers out there.
>all these fucked up controllers
bros im thinking of starting a collection of strange 3rd party controllers just to replay old games with....
your thoughts?
unless you got money to do it don't bother
you only need like 5 controller options at most
As someone who's next door neighbor was the living embodiment of "Here's your controller, bro.", I would advise against that.
i didn't mean to amass a collection I simply wanted to try controllers. Now in this room alone I have both wireless M30 versions, a USB saturn pad, a BT saturn pad, a 2.4g saturn pad, a neogeo pad, a PS4 controller and switch pro controller. this isn't even where I have my consoles. i don't recommend it unless you play 2D action games more than 3D games because the only time you're really going to notice the difference is when you're doing a lot of dpad movement. and no, platformers don't count because they're mainly holding right.
there's no reason not to own at least one saturn style pad if you remotely care about 2d shit even in the slightest