>Knock Off

>Knock Off

fuck

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bishart doesn't learn it confirmed

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its distribution was gutted.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does Weavile get it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least Weavile has SOMETHING over Chien-Pao now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >has Knock and Axel back
          And so he's back to top 10 usage in OU

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Axel isn't a TM.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It will be next DLC along with Rising Voltage and Expanding Force

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't get triple Axel, but I'm wondering if loaded dice icicle spear + knock off Will be a thing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Boots are too necessary for Weavile to be good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weavile bros, we are so back.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thing with big ass hands can't learn the move with a big ass hand
      Pls

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Full list of new TMs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >smack down
      someone check if it works with tinkaton. big if it does

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, someone check pls

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Garchomp confirmed staying in OU!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no Triple Axel

      Saving us from Triple Axel Regieleki again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy crap a gravity tm i'm so happy

      >flip turn
      >scald
      Oh c'mon

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Blissey learn Toxic again or no?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tyranitar gets Knock off
    bros

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the limbless eel that has a hyper limited movepool of 4 moves gets knock off
    lel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you check some Ghosts for Poltergeist compatibility? Specifically Houndstone, Annihilape, and Basculegion.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    scald definitely isn't every water type (besides water/ice) anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >H-Samurott can pivot
      NOPE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a weird decision to kill off Scald on Kyogre of all things.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always hated Scald for that fact that it's burning hot water, it felt cruel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slowbro
      oh HELL no

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ceruledge gets poltergeist

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not basculegion
      🙁
      Can you check Mimikyu & Dragapult?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like a muh addition. Ledge likes Bitter Blade, Shadow Sneak, Swords dance and Close Combat for Gargshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It can actually use its Ghost STAB now for one. And keep Close Combat for Garg.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would be hard to fit on the Swords Dance set, but great for Choice item sets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no Basculegion
      >no Dragapult
      Fuck, my mono ghost team in smogon's meme format

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what about banette?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it got that I assume

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes I checked it. Lots of new poltergeist users

          fucking FINALLY

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes I checked it. Lots of new poltergeist users

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nice that they remembered umbreon is canonically poisonous

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WOW.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lando doesn’t get toxic
      Good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >blissey doesn't have toxic anymore
      >Lando doesn't have toxic anymore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does Lando get Knock back?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No screenshot, but I've seen people say no.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stall garbage get Toxic
      WHY SHIT FREAK? WHY

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Its fine because its 90% accuracy.
        This is their logic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fat pink egg blobs are dead and buried, RIP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does Gliscor get it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It should have been in its lvl up moveset

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Blissey doesn't get Toxic
      Why?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GameFreak Loves Stall

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kantobros...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >SHITnite lost Dual Wing beat
      KWAB

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let’s be real
      We all knew they wouldn’t
      Gyarados probably doesn’t either

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >koraidon, who doesn't even have wings, has wingbeat
      >charizard and dragonite don't
      What's the logic behind this? At least Scyther still gets it. Which is what I was worried most about.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's wings are the antennae

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        , who doesn't even have wings, has wingbeat
        violet-kun, I...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >koraidon, who doesn't even have wings, has wingbeat

        Anon...what the fuck do you think it uses to Glide?????

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        , who doesn't even have wings, has wingbeat
        It's braids unfurl into wings, remember? Happens in the Collision Course animation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GF has no logic. We literally have a fucking barracuda learn a 120 BP punching move.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Close Combat is not a punching move.

          If that was the case then Tyrantrum and Galarian Zapdos shouldn't be able to learn it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >koraidon, who doesn't even have wings
        It's literally called the Winged King.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh wow, they actually nerfed Dragonite.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How the fuck does Kleavor attack with Wings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it evolves from Scyther. How often do Pokemon evolve and lose access to certain TMs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Has no real wings
      >Can learn Dual wing beat
      what

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >called the wing king
        >will literally fly with its antenna wings in the next DLC
        >unfurls wings while using its signature move
        >"hurr...why dose Koraidon get dual wingbeat?!??"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean the Cleavor.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Scythe gets dual wing beat, so why would it randomly forget the move when it evolves? That's literally never happened in the 20+ years the games have existed.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They really just wanted to make the weirdest nerfs possible.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Krookodile keep Knock Off?unlike Lando and Incine, Krookodile did nothing wrong

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good fuck toxapex

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ESTO ES EL FIN SHITPEX

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's embarrassing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice, fuck that piece of shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      GET FUCKED YOU FAT CANCEROUS TUMOR

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PRESS S TO SPIT

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ITS SO FUCKING OVER!!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SMOGONTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    alo gets muhmentum

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well that's a relief.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can Brambleghast get Poltergeist?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It didn't get it in gen 8, check actual new shit like Houndstone and Basculegion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      alo gets muhmentum

      >Garchomp is on the actual ICON of Scale Shot
      She is BACK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably for the best, if it got reliable Ghost STAB it'd more than likely be pushed into broken in both Singles and Doubles

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pult would have been instabanned with Poltergeist, so im kind of happy about this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now what about Ape

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would ape even want poltergeist?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't get it btw.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Paldean ghosts finally got a fucking STAB move that isn't Shadow Sneak.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Brambleghast
          WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK TUMBLEBROS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck yeah, Houndstone!

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do outbreaks appear in the DLC area?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate game freak so fucking much, the move distribuition makes no fucking sense

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Weavile and Krookodile both keep Knock?

    Does Tsareena also keeps Knock?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And don’t forget Scyther

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Gliscor keeps Toxic?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All the way down to 55
    It's still gonna be good, but ouch.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That garbage was busted.
      It was basically STAB extreme speed
      The only reason was bearable was because Grass is a trash type

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It was basically STAB extreme speed
        Considering it was only really used with Grassy Surge(Terrain), it always had the equivalent of 91 BP, so it was significantly stronger than Extremespeed, especially after STAB.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Honchkrow finally get Knock Off?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some kinda stally shit here bros...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like that slowbro gets it, but this is a good nerf all around.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Slowtwins getting it is alright because their access to Teleport was revoked this gen and their defensive typing is a fraction as good as T*xapex's, even if they still have regenerator.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No Milotic

      >Goodra

      wtf

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Milotic was shown using it in the trailer no? Tis can't be right

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a work in progress list. Is Home back online yet?
          https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scarlet-violet-the-teal-mask.3727770/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          might not be in until next dlc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The list is obviously incomplete unless you think they made a TM for only 11 mons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      alolamola is like an actual ou threat now, certainly a better mon than shitpex

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >THREE regenerator garbage + 2 stallers get Scald
      Trash Freak doesn't learn don't they? I bet Smogon shitters are happy now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is such a weird take!
      I understand slowbro (It can use flamethrower)
      But not Bellibolt? Scovillain? Chi-yu? Pelliper? Swalot? Camerupt? Water Tauros?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone check if Torterra gains access to Shell Smash and Grassy Glide?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >knock off
    Hariyama, Zoroark, Zoroark-Hisui, Zangoose, Cetitan, Azumarill, Grafaiai, Wigglytuff, Oranguru, Donphan, Eelektross, Toedscruel, Cacturne, Tinkaton, Seviper, Lycanroc (Midnight), Sableye, Wo-Chien, Roaring Moon, Golduck, Kricketune, Copperajah, Muk, Raichu, Leafeon, Krookodile, Hypno, Hydreigon, Iron Treads, Gengar, Quaquaval, Cyclizar, Iron Jugulis, Iron Valiant, Toxicroak, Gumshoos, Salazzle, Gallade, Goodra, Gardevoir, Slaking, Crabominable, Banette, Falinks, Passimian, Lurantis, Hypno, Heracross, Komala, Drifblim, Greedent, Meowscarada, Weavile, Skuntank, Scizor, Klawf, Persian, Perrserker, Great Tusk, Tyranitar, Swalot, Bombirdier, Lokix, Pelipper, Pawmot, Rillaboom, Chesnaught, Decidueye, Samurott, Tsareena, Zapdos-Galar, Mewtwo, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Tornadus, Thundurus, Hoopa, Zarude, Walking Wake, Meloetta

    >toxic
    Clodsire, Zoroark, Grafaiai, Dudunsparce, Toedscruel, Muk, Umbreon, Hypno, Gengar, Glimmora, Iron Moth, Venomoth, Toxtricity, Toxicroak, Salazzle, Toxapex, Dragalge, Breloom, Seviper, Quagsire, Amoonguss, Houndoom, Skuntank, Vespiquen, Swalot, Spiritomb, Bellibolt, Revavroom, Sneasler, Goodra, Overqwil, Eternatus, Slowbro-Galar, Slowking-Galar

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that knock off list
      zzzzzzzzzz

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They gave fucking Valiant Knock Off?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It already learned it by level up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah 10 months ago

          I'm retarded

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah 10 months ago

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It already had it from level up moves

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gliscor didn't get toxic?? Why not? It's literally it's theme.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hariyama gets knock off
      >Iron Hands doesn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Weavile gets Knock Off but she doesn't
      This is some horseshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She's not dark type

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was just hoping for something better than night slash since I use tera dark on mine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        she already has a broken signature move

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wanna sex both, especially Sneasler, but she does not need Knock Off of all things.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alomomola with Wish+Flip Turn and Scald
    The meanest sunfish.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That thing is going to be a fucking monster. Especially if you pair it with Slowbro.
      It doesn't even need Protect, it can switch out for free HP.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tinted Lens Knock Off

    KAMEN RIDER BROS!!!!

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did Mamoswine fucking lose icicle spear through breeding? Are you serious?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NVM I am retarded icicle spear is TM 187 this generation and Mamo does learn it

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gligar and Gliscor now learn Crabhammer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sauce?

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Wind Rider Shiftry
    For what purpose?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shiftry has base 100 attack, doesn't seem too bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Id make a crack about Hoeen Privilege but the fucker needed it, good for Shiftry .

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not? Shiftry is wind themed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How the hell do you get that on Shiftry?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Replaced Early Bird apparently

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TIDY UP FURRET
    NU BETTER WATCH OUT

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Furret gets tidy up lol

      Tidy Up Furret lmfao

      no fucking way

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Furret gets tidy up lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tidy Up Furret lmfao

      FURRETCHADS IT'S OUR TIME

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tidy Up Furret lmfao

      Based and furretpilled

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tidy Up Furret lmfao

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mamoswine also gets knock off

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Confirmed, Empoleon gets Roost.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no fucking way i demand proof

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mew got crabhammer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fake and gay, make it believable next time retard

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no es fake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did anything else get its ability changed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wind Rider replaces Early Bird

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was a useless ability, makes sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who the fuck made that up?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wind rider
      >fake out
      >leaf blade
      >knock off
      >sucker punch?
      this thing kind of has a shit movepool but it's got enough to do something now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It can be used in doubles alongside Tornadus.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brambleghast got some use in VGC thanks to Wind Rider, Shiftry will be viable too.
        It's a legitimately great ability in doubles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But why?
      Chlorophyll is way better with Solar Blade/Solar Beam

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pics of didn´t happen

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >random immunities to popular spread moves
        >bonus attack when tailwind
        wind rider is a significantly better move on mons without solid status, it's just going to hit like a limp noodle in the sun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >immune to heat wave, blizzard and springtide storm
        >immune to all the strongest special flying attacks
        >immune to whirlwind as a bonus
        I'll take wind rider over chlorophyll every single day. It's essentially trading the ability to be faster on sunlight for the ability to be a big FUCK YOU to the kind of pokemon that would spam blizzard or hurricane on their respective weather (abomasnow, pelipper).

        The only thing I wish is that it wasn't called wind rider, so that cacturne could also get it (but if I'm being completely honest I wish the SCARECROW pokemon had an ability that made it immune to all flying moves period, not just wind moves)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok I finally may use it then.I always liked the design.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ogrepon teal mask stats
    100/120/100/100/80

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >80 speed
      shitmon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're missing one big guy

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully DLC 2 is the day Electivire and Magmortar finally get Iron Fist and Mega Launcher respectively, cause it’s about damn time

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Heatproof is a pretty great ability for a grass type.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It gets fucking Scald. I wonder if Polteageist does too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slow
      Hope it has shell smash

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this thing looks like it's going to be cancer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >giga drain but scald
      it's a good thing this is a shitmon

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Torterra finally get Shell Smash?

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BRELOOM ATTACK NERFED TO 120 LOL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hahahahaha RIP breloom

      No fucking way

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NO ES FAKE4kr2ppr

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      y tho

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Grass Monkey is back.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop man, they didn't even give it Grassy Slide. Don't do this to Breloom, he's a wholesome, based bro.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        breloom has been making people rage for 6 gens straight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      done with gamefreak

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We won Thanatos bros

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?????????????

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hahahahaha RIP breloom

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't there some shit Raikou + Cobalion form?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's in the next DLC

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Breloom is the only mon to get a stat change, -10 ATK

    What the fuck lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They meant to give it Grassy glide but forgot

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stats

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ursaluna type?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ground/Normal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sinistcha has 106 defense
      >Coupled with a Giga Drain clone that Burns
      hahaha...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >90 accuracy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the tea has good bulk, strength sap, and scald drain
      what the fuck this is aids

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >convergent species with different stats

      No es fake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fezandipiti with shit 70 SpA
      For one, I hope centro truly is a lying moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a poison/fairy type with good bulk and toxic chain. If it gets defog and roost, it'll find its way to OU.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pretty much confirmed to get roost, no defog tho

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Breloom = -10 Attack
    Yall better prove it

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >miraidon lost 15 sp.a

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ursaluna completely changed stats.
    113/70/120/135/65/52 555 bst

    Still ground/normal

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Empoleon has Competitive now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking finally, only took them 4 generations

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YES. Please tell me he got Roost too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Confirmed, Empoleon gets Roost.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Instead of Defiant for Hidden?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ursaluna Blood Moon is Ground/Normal just like regular

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >swapped atk and sp atk
      ursaring's special movepool is garbage to non-existent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not even swapped. Ursaluna has 140 attack.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a special attacker
      Surely they gave it decent special moves since

      >swapped atk and sp atk
      ursaring's special movepool is garbage to non-existent.

      right....right???

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ursaluna in sv has
        >hyper voice
        >earth power
        >tera blast
        >snore
        >swift
        >hyper beam
        I highly doubt they significantly buffed its movepool.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No special type headlong rush?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know anything about its new form's moves just what it has in the base game. it probably does have a signature special ground, but the problem is ursaring's notable lack of coverage for a normal type. no beambolt.

            Victory dance Poliwrath/Tidy up Furret is still not even that good.

            Also wtf the Breloom nerf

            probably didn't want it competing with the owl.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please dude stop smoking crack. Tera, Hyper Voice, Earth Power, new signature move.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's ground/normal
      Where's the anon who was doggedly following me around last week saying I was spreading misinformation? I have a present for him....

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ursaluna gets a special attacking alt form
    Aw what the fuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its stats are total garbage compared to the original, what's the point?

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NEW URSALUNA IS SPECIAL???????????

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Breloom new stats 60/120/80/60/60/70

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Breloom new stats 60/120/80/60/60/70
      LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE RETARDS AT GAME FREAK?
      WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS POINTLESS NERF WHILE THEY RELEASE SHIT LIKE RAGE FIST, LAST RESPECTS, SUPREME OVERLORD, SHED TAIL, BALCALLIBUR, URSALUNA...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because breloom hurts timmy's feelings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        “to make Chesnaught, H-Lilligant and H-Decidueye look good”

        The latter is still a shitmon, and always will be no matter what

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My lvl 100 adamant breloom still has 394 attack, if it was nerfed like you say it would have 372

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the fake stats from Labor day weekend.

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does ursaluna at least get moonblast

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you can find nasty plot in a small cave to the left of where the DLC starts
    LMAO
    That one quest? KEKED

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poliwrath gets Victory Dance
    Ambipom/Furret get Tidy Up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    POLIWRATH BROS EATING

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cropped because it's from a vchud's stream.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Iron Valiant get
    >Vacuum Wave
    >Misty Explosion

    Does Slither Wing get
    >Lunge

    Did Lash Out get fixed?
    Did Burning Jealousy get a home?
    >Spite
    >Charge
    Cool

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does Iron Valiant get
      Wave
      Yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is that all you checked?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We’re going home

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looool victory dance poliwrath

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wtf bros, is the meta actually healthy?

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Victory dance Poliwrath/Tidy up Furret is still not even that good.

    Also wtf the Breloom nerf

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ludicolo got dancer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't even know what Ludicolo's hidden ability is actually

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nvm I do it's own tempo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Own Tempo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does it get Quiver Dance too?

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gamefreak? Ran by Grim Darkwood, what the fuck is that Breloom nerf even for

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      125 BP STAB move boosted with Grassy Terrain, boosted even higher by Tera-ing into Grass

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but Grass is resisted by seven types so it balances out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good news is that Victory Dance Poliwrath has come to the rescue to beat his ass down once more. Never lose Fightope!

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if Dusknoir got anything new. Seems like a Pokemon that's worthy of some buffs.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's with the weird distribution of moves?

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ROARING MOON ROARING MOON
    SAND TOMB
    DUAL WINGBEAT TRASH
    SCALE SHOT TRASH
    SMACK DOWN WHAT IS THIS
    UPROAR SUPER FANG WEATHER BALL WE RAN IT FORCED LANDORUS META

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poliwrath gets vdance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Prove it

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >smogon trannies fell for the ludicolo bait

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dancer Ludicolo might be bullshit, wait for a screenshot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anything said in text is assumed bullshit until a screenshot is produced.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are the sinnohs the only starters added this wave?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently Ambipom got Tidy Up? Just saw it on strean

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    People have already been using Toxapex in OU without Scald.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, does Torterra get Shell Smash?

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1c_322MP70wk__Jcf7AlMP9q1JA_M9szifAt06DPDwww/htmlview?pli=1#

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hisuian decidueye, the grass/fighting type, gets poltergeist
      >alolan decidueye, the grass/ghost type, doesn't
      surely this is a fuckup

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your shitmon still belong to the lowest tier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Apparently yeah, the guy who made the list said he swapped the two.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao looks like the fags at Smogon are starting to deny stat/movepool changes posted here because they don't want anyone to have an advantage when when the new PS update drops

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dusclops gets Strength Sap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DusCLOPS
      surely you mean Dusknoir, right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, the middle one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not like it matters
        as long as eviolite exists and dusknoir's stat spread stays the way it is, it has no relevance over dusclops

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most fucked changes thus far:
    Breloom -10 attack
    Empoleon gets Roost + Competitive
    Ambipom and Furret get Tidy Up
    Gliscor gets Crabhammer
    Poliwrath gets Victory Dance

    What were these retards thinking

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ambipom and Furret get Tidy Up
      >no cinccino
      Fuck you gamefreak

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cinccino is in the game?

        Revavroom gets High Horsepower apparently. Guess it’s going up a tier or two.

        All it ever needed was some ground coverage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait Poliwrath getting VD is real?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aside from the breloom nerf, how I'd any of that "fucked up"?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Empoleon gets Roost
      empoleon already got roost in a legends arceus event so I heard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did empoleon get flip turn as well? Or scald? That would be absolutely nuts if so

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >+10 Atk on gen 6
      >liquidation and close combat on gen 8
      >victory dance on gen 9
      It only took them 30 years to make poliwrath a decent pokemon but it finally happened

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can you post a screenshot of the Poliwrath one? that is a MASSIVE change

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Breloom’s attack didn’t drop moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you sure about that?

        If not, then this is GF’s dumbest nerf since Gengar and Darkrai in gen 7

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Crabhammer Gliscor

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nerfed Gorilla Glide
    >no scald Toxapex
    >no knock off Kingambit
    This shit is why I play Radical Red.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since random Normal types are starting to get Tidy Up like crack, anything about Tidy Up Cinnico?

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Revavroom gets High Horsepower apparently. Guess it’s going up a tier or two.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      someone post screenshot for proof plz

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't change ogerpon's tera type lol

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Focus Punch Zoroark-Hisui
    Kinda neat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bye t-tar

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Snorlax got Slack Off!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yanmega also gets Quiver Dance!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does it get Hurricane too?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vikavolt does.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dusclops gets Strength Sap

      I just checked the pokedex pages Serebii just released and the most I see is Roar https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sv/snorlax/
      https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sv/dusclops/

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Snorlax gets Slack Off.

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Proof of Tidy Up Furret

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hidden Abilities:

    Dipplin: Sticky Hold
    Poltchageist line: Heatproof
    Okidogi: Guard Dog
    Munkidori: Frisk
    Fezandipiti: Technician

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Okidogi: Guard Dog
      >Munkidori: Frisk
      >Fezandipiti: Technician
      Christ alive these are awful

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okidogi is built for VGC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >physical poison/fairy technician user (also 91 Atk, supposedly)
      That sounds awful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Guard Dog
      Okidogi fucks Incineroar lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Guard Dog
      Okidogi fucks Incineroar lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uhhhhh Incineroarsisters??? Our response???

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MY HERO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Frisk

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YANMEGA OU LMAOOO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >speed boost
      uh oh sorry gotta quickban to ubers for the health of the metagame, you know how this goes

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    snorlax does not get slack off

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Breloom’s downfall thankfully turned out to be greatly exaggerated.

    lol get fucked Grim Darkass

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Torterra gets Shell Smash as an egg move now.

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poliwrath gets Victory Dance and Torterra line seems to learn Shell Smash, playing right now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      screenshot?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Torterra gets Shell Smash as an egg move now.

      >Torterra gets Shell Smash
      Do not toy with me anons, post proof

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post a screenshot please, we need to know if this is real or not

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Grubbin gets burn morons rape all morons

    [...]

    BP attack that anally rapes the pokemon in hyper realistic detail and sends a moron to rape the opponent in real life

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blood Moon is special Normal type Gigaton Hammer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Calm Mind
      Nice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it fire from it's eye?

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gliscor still gets toxic

    Stallbros WE ARE SO BACK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only that, Gligar now gets Spikes and Toxic Spikes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We ice meta now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *teras to water type and starts stacking spikes*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tera spiker
          >now you have to cram goldengo in your team

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            With how many flip turners there are now hazard stacking will be legit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only that, Gligar now gets Spikes and Toxic Spikes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only that, Gligar now gets Spikes and Toxic Spikes.

      Ok this is Based, my Bro got some Love!

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/Light_88_/status/1701813203783549292

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HOLY FUCK IT'S LEGIT

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YOOOOOOOO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rillawhom?
      Torterra is the grassy glide king now

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://pastebin.com/4uFZSYG5

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ogrepon's moveset is really fucking bad. They went the Oricorio route and made it so that it learns no STAB aside from its signature move.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Power whip is pretty good stab.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It gets Wood Hammer too, but it doesn't get anything for the alternate mask forms.

          Am I reading this right? does sinistcha really NOT get shell smash? because it's a relief if it doesn't

          Nope. But does it really need it? It has enough ways to spread status and keep itself alive.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But does it really need it?
            No it does not, that's what I'm saying. I hope it really does not get that fucking move, I'm tired of these special shell smashers with recovery.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Horn Leech too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grass/Rock
      120 Atk
      110 Spe

      Another W for the Rockbros

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Finally more speed control

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Am I reading this right? does sinistcha really NOT get shell smash? because it's a relief if it doesn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing stopping Munkidori going uber is that bad movepool
      >Psychic
      >Poison
      >Fighting
      >Ghost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone that plays VGC thoughts on the Tea? Rage Powder and its immune to Fake out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Matcha Gotcha is going to be fucking aids, spread giga drain scald is enough to guarantee it sees use on teams on it's own.

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So is Victory Dance Poliwrarth real?

    Just wanna double check

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ursaluna Blood Moon gets Moonlight

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where are the retards saying Bloodmoon was going to be shit because it's a special attacker?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Walled by Corv

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't you Corvikeks have Tinkatonfags to argue with since the gremlin got smack down

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally how does smask down affect the tink vs corv match up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tinkaton is described as using rocks to knock Corviknight out of the air, Smack Down literally does that as a move
            basically it's lore/flavour

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              great now it'll do a sweet 17% with bulldoze lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lemme put mirror armor on just for those speed drops lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tinkaton now has a super effective brick break against it
            It's not much though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you get it?

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Datamine for returning mons
    https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kwsch/8ac34e7d4958d9843efa2f85d7b8bc90/raw/b770cc37261f59009e6a86a89ff9742d3ede598a/gistfile1.txt

    Let’s just say Victory Dance Poliwrarth, Slack Off Snorlax, and Quiver Dance Yanmega are ALL FAKE NEWS, last time I checked at least

    Ganker shitposting at it’s finest

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Megas included in datamine
      Wtf?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Megasbros........ we are still here.... gen 5 remakes with megas trust the plan.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Slack Off Snorlax with tera fairy
      Snorlax not only finally got Slack off, but earned himself an all-expenses paid trip to OU. What a time to be alive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought Slack Off Snorlax is fake?

        Where are y’all getting this from?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mega Lopunny has return
      What did it mean by this

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am I the only one excited for knock off roaring moon?

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