L4D2

>campaigns are super repetitive
>versus is pure autism and not fun
>game still have 40k concurrent players daily
How?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a fun game

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is fun, but the replayability is poor.
      Once you finished the campaigns you wait 4 years before you replay it. It's still very good though compared to other zombie games.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what are custom maps
        >what is versus

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          thats the thing, nobody play costum maps except the meme ones.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            why are you even playing l4d2 if you dont have any friends lol

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              no better stress reliever exist. shit like payday 2 only pisses me more than entertain me.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I have no friends I can play custom maps with
            Skill issue

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This mindbreaks the Gankeredditor. They cant wrap their heads around playing a game simply because the game is fun. They need a battle pass, seasonal events, and cosmetics to hold their attention. Left 4 Dead doesnt jingle keys in front of your face like you're an infant, hence the Gankeredditor's disdain.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      True.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russians and chinks

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some people have friends

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because a bunch of people didn't get filtered by versus and the devs of newer extraction shooters are too afraid of pvp.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      one day somebody is going to kill you for just being a homosexual

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well my demise certainly won't come from the effeminate hands of someone that fears pvp.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >unlimited number of custom campaigns
    >good game design
    >teamwork encouraged

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    are super repetitive
    wrong
    is pure autism and not fun
    wrong again
    >game still have 40k concurrent players daily
    >How?
    it's fun; and no other game does what it does well

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you just have autism.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont like the nu infected in l4d2 so I only play the first game dont @ me

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is fair opinion. Also L4D1 lvls > L4D2 lvls

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      racist

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Versus is a lot of fun wtf. So much replayability coordinating fun attacks or doing solo death charges kek.
    Did you get kicked? Is that why you hate it? Just get a bit better casual kun and they'll accept you

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      nta but to be fair the community is pretty fricking ruthless with kicking and not being noob friendly

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >enter game
        >infected
        >fail charge
        >kicked
        WOW SO MUCH LEARNING VERY have a nice day

        >Load in
        >Don't know how to change off tank
        >Get fricking torn apart by a 30something year old and how I should kill myself and what not
        >Refuses to tell me how to give away tank
        >Get kicked
        I wonder anon, I truly wonder

        I am further reiterating what these anons said and they are probably the douche bags who still praise this game. Yes L4D2 is fun, but the community that still plays it is fricked.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >enter game
      >infected
      >fail charge
      >kicked
      WOW SO MUCH LEARNING VERY have a nice day

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Load in
      >Don't know how to change off tank
      >Get fricking torn apart by a 30something year old and how I should kill myself and what not
      >Refuses to tell me how to give away tank
      >Get kicked
      I wonder anon, I truly wonder

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is surprising. Not like there's a lack of other horde shooters out there.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modding.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Left 4 Dead is medicine. No matter how many times I play the campaigns the game never gets old. I've met a lot of friends on that game. I remember one of the developers of L4D telling a story of how the game literally saved a man's marriage. He was stationed in Iraq and him and his wife would play every night together.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yo I'm over in somebody else's country murdering their children so Israel can implament globohomosexual there also!

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    is pure autism and not fun
    Wrong, anon.
    The fun is in making autistic homosexuals seethe and rage quit by playing like shit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The fun is in making autistic homosexuals seethe and rage quit by playing like shit.

      >Joined game late in the round
      >Only got 19 points
      >Sperg mentions it
      >Next round he runs off and goes down
      >"I may have had 19 points but at least I can stick with my team
      >Staticy buttrage ensues

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played again this year and spent ~200 hours in 24 man modded servers alone
    It is as addictive and chaotic as it sounds

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    People always focus on versus, but online campaigns are so cozy. Just switched over to that after some versus fatigue and I definitely recommend trying it out for a bit. Custom maps also make it a unique experience.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >campaigns are super repetitive
    special infected randomness and slightly different weapon/item spawns can go a long way

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    mods and custom maps

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm more baffled by it having some of the easiest achievements ever with <10% achievement rate.
    Not a single one of the main campaigns has >50%, wtf.
    That and it having 30k active players, but when I check the server browser, there's only a handful of them.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it doesnt count achievements from private accounts.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats because the 30k players are sprrad around the entire world and not concetrated around your region.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's just because like every steam account has the game, so the achievement stats are skewed by all the people who played for an hour.

      Also the main server browser has really aggressive region "locking" and hides everyone too far away from you. I think if you use console commands to get the real server browser you'll see all of them (and they'll all be hues with like 600 ping)

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    versus is great and the only way to play the game,

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    10v10 Zomb!e island with a ton of ill-fitting mods is sovl

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game is the best of its genre, which is sad because its from 2009 and nobody has been able to dethrone it.
    Formula is simple, game rules are simple, Valve didnt go full tryhard making the game which makes it super easy to understand and get into it, also no progrsesion or unlocks makes it very egalitary, someone with 1 hour has the same options as someone with 1000 instead of being stuck with the worst posible default weapon, armor and support items, it also curbs elitism, a veteran has no way of knowing he is playing with newbies so he has no reason to dodge games unlike others where people will see three shmucks with the default lvl 1 weapons/armor and instantly change lobbies.
    Add L4D2 characters have simple, charming designs and a lot of personality without being annoying unlike other games, for example the survivors from Back 4 Blood sound unsufferable to no end or outright cringe and they look they designed by edgy 14 year old teenagers.

    Nobody has been able to replicate the sheer amount of entertaining L4D2 offers, some games got too tangled trying to deliver too much options (and then most of them are pointless) or had the stupid idea of putting a progression system with levels, rankings and unlocks which stops people from playing more casually (probably trying to hook the MMO adicts crowd).

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the best concurrent is still Killing Floor 1 (while being very different).

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Killing Floor 2 has better gameplay. I hate the art direction but the gameplay is a lot better.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldnt say they are the same genre, similar but Killing Floor is more a static survival/defending position game and the others you have to advance from point A to point B, Killing Floor is a permanent crescendo event like L4D/L4D2 "wait for helicopter to arrive" segments.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the best concurrent is still Killing Floor 1 (while being very different).

      Deep Rock Galactic is better, and the procedural maps give it way more replayability

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Procedural maps are fine, but inter-game progression is gay

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it has a frickton of mods and lots of custom campaigns and game modes, it's a fun game

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    when a GOOD games offers repetitive GOOD content, people will play it forever.
    it's as simple as that
    the only developers that worry about repetitiveness are those that only care about "offering a narrative"

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My copy of L4d2 looks like a porn game. Tell me of any other coop shooter i can do that in.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    how the HECK is there not a left 3 dead in 2023

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ganker told me this sucks and i shouldnt play it

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ganker was right.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          If only it was Ganker... funny thing about that game is Valve took L4D, cut a lot of stuff they didnt find fun like Boomer vomit damaging you instead of attracting zombies or they couldnt make it work in a reasonable way like the screamer, which made many turtle rock guys quit for creative differences, in B4B they readded many of the stuff Valve cut and to noone surprise it was poorly received by players.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't hold a candle to l4d, Ganker steered you right for once

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like it for the greatly expanded pve aspect. Have about 800 hours in it. Some of the dialogue is kinda weird but I don't find it super zoomer cringe most of the time. It's people who are confident in their abilities during a second zombie outbreak instead of scared survivors. The b4b crew are both immune to the worms and lived through the first takeover only to fight the new mutants much later on when the game starts.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The maps are the same but the enemy placements are always different.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >reinstall the game after a very long time for funsies
    >pick advanced because that was always a nice mix of challenge and fun
    >special infected always attack in teams now
    >npc survivors are complete braindead moron that stand perfectly still when so much as two zombies surround them
    Was there an update i somehow missed?
    I don't remember them being this bad, on the contrary, they were always more than capable of looking out for themselves.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      skill issue. remove the bots from your lobby and get good

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you mentally deficient or am i talking to a chatbot?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Last Stand update allegedly did something to the bots. I don't know what exactly.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >special infected always attack in teams now
      THANK YOU, every time I mention this on the steam forums all I get with replies is "lol get good" and how TLS update never changed how specials worked. There is even this homosexual that seethes each time that its brought up.
      >npc survivors are complete braindead moron that stand perfectly still when so much as two zombies surround them
      Thats another thing I bring up, that the npc survivors are even more brain dead to appease compgays but once again, all the fanboys on the steam forum just say "they were always garbage"

      The Last Stand update allegedly did something to the bots. I don't know what exactly.

      TLS update 100% changed how they work. They now spawn together in teams, certain specials have weighted spawns now in certain areas like getting three hunters all the time in dark carnival in the ticket line. Every time I try to bring this up everyone just gets pissed off at me seeing I am lying. Even a dev from TLS update said I was lying.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Last Stand update allegedly did something to the bots. I don't know what exactly.

        Also the "crescendo" waves are way more frequent now.
        Once they were rare and only for special parts of the levels but now i can't go a minute at a time without it getting triggered complete with the special infected duo team i have mentioned.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I also noticed they happen a lot more after a witch is startled. I don't like the changes they made but what pisses me off the most is the fact that everyone, from the players to the new dev team, pretends as if they didn't change anything and get angry when you point out what they did.
          >Do you have any facts they changed it? HMMMMM?
          Yes because I was playing this game for 8 years and have 1,000 hours in campaign.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      NPC survivors were never good, but yeah, the update fricked em. And for years now the game's been stuck in "horde comes every couple minutes as the special infected will just buttrape no lube your ass if you aren't online and coordinated". No one wanted to admit it, but it got PAYDAY 2'd in difficulty escalation while failing to accommodate for players not being able to actually get stronger to adapt in any way, just get better.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I used to be able to easily cruise through a game on solo advanced but now I am having a hard time even on normal with people who know what they are doing just because of how the special AI works. The idea to improve their AI is nice but its global and not difficulty locked and everyone refuses to acknowledge it even happened.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I used to be able to easily cruise through a game on solo advanced
          Same.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I used to be able to easily cruise through a game on solo advanced but now I am having a hard time even on normal with people who know what they are doing just because of how the special AI works. The idea to improve their AI is nice but its global and not difficulty locked and everyone refuses to acknowledge it even happened.

            git fricking good, I can solo advanced no deaths easy, expert I'm working on

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I know that I could still do it, I'm just not playing this fricking game when it spawns a jockey every 10 seconds. The spawns in this game are so aggressive now I constantly have zombies telefragging themselves inside me when they spawn on No Mercy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >special infected always attack in teams now
      That's literally always been the intention, specials are meant to be weak on their own and strong together and they've always attacked together in co-op for that reason
      They also spawn and attack you alone plenty often anyway, even in expert
      t. actually plays the game

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When are we getting L4D3?

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am
    that guy
    that picks the grenade launcher

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never enjoyed Left 4 Dead, it always felt very sticky and repetitive

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats why you spam "pills here" endlessly to make up for the sticky repetitiveness

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never got the deal with votekicking in Versus, it's not that common unless you're doing legitimately horrible and not contributing at all several rounds in a row. You'd get flamed in any online team based game for playing bad

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    l4d2 versus is like pure refined crack cocaine, it's not good at all for you but nothing beats that high of curbstomping the enemy with your teammates and hitting instakills or tank wipes

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    also, no lootbox, no microtransaction, no sharkcards, no dlc but free mods.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's meant for casuals

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make 10/10 that is great to play with people
    >no one ever improves on it
    So it just stays at number 1 by default.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dropped the game after TLS update fricked everything up and increased the jockey spawn rate.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >versus is [too hard for me] and [people kick me because im trash]
    Fixed that for you.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >want to play versus and have fun
      >get instakicked by some autismo that has been playing this game for 17 years because i didn't knock out all four survivors in a single charge
      Okay moron.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You only get instakicked if you make an obviously moronic move.
        Go with your team and read chat. Going alone is basically just wasting 25% of the hit, and people would rather have bots than the dogshit that is a solo player who doesn't think about team synergy.
        Spit on charges and hunts, don't jock/smoke out of spit, go with the rest of the team. That should be enough to avoid 90% of instakicks, and the rest you can learn through osmosis.
        If you play it for like 2 weeks you're going to be on skill parity with 90% of the playerbase.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah.
          Enjoy your dead autismo mode.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stay trash and stay out of Versus. The gamemode's better without trash like you.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Play the game like an autismo tryhard
          >Get kicked anyway for not throwing the game to try and revive another autismo tryhard
          >Get kicked again because the entire group was bickering instead of making an important and critical move that was about to be missed on the survivors so I took the first play

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You were either unfairly kicked by a stack or you're only telling half of the story.
            Most of the time that people dive into saferoom and don't revive an ally, the spawns are down and you easily have enough time to rez. Not always the case, like when there's SI still up that you can hear, but it's almost always worth trying if you know that 3-4/4 of the SI have been killed in the last hit.

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Call out the dev team for being shitters
    >Get banned
    fricking kek, what a shitshow L4D2 became
    https://steamcommunity.com/app/550/discussions/0/4040355128955512890/

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    are super repetitive
    and super fun!

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else have a hard time hearing the voice lines in these games? I know these characters have personalities when i heard them isolated but in game it's really hard to pick up on

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Valve has given it away for free in the past, and it goes on sale for pennies.

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Versus would be great if they changed the scoring system to l4d1's system, and add QoL for SI so noobs don't get entirely filtered.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >game is simple enough to where hopping in any time feels easy
    >no fricking around required to play with friends and no grinding/metaprogression/etc keeping people from always being on the same page
    >custom campaigns provide tons of replay value and cosmetic mods allow you to change the aesthetics in both serious to silly ways if you tire of the default
    >enough depth to keep learning things but simple to actually play without being overbearing
    >advanced allows chill co-op sessions while expert is great for those wanting to communicate and focus more
    >game allows you to go into idle mode for normies/people living with others that need tending to so super accessible without interrupting game flow
    >versus is its own can of worms that provides an immense amount of depth and tism
    >memorable characters and so many voicelines that you'll still hear new ones often times
    It's a Valve game through and through. It was designed well and with love, and nothing compares in the level of polish and fun. It's why TF2 still gets players despite the neglect, nobody can match it.

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hit quick play
    >it's always dead center
    autism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hit quick play
      >it's always dead center
      >on expert
      >obviously peoples first time playing

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Time to carry them to the end or your name ain't chicago ted

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    L4D Roguelite mode.

    Yes or no?

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll show you how.
    is pure autism and not fun
    This line here isn't true.
    That was easy.

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >boot up some cold stream with bots, got a mod that makes them at least competent and able to continue on if I die
    >doing fine until all the sudden a horde happens, and every single SI suddenly tag-teams the group or hides boomers around corners every 10 seconds with insane spawn rates
    >the horde never ends for the entire rest of the map and is just endless waves of infected and SI constantly going on despite the fact that there isn't even some weird event or trigger going on, the spawn system just randomly fricking broke until the next map acts like it never happened
    i swear this has happened in normal campaigns too

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was it in the final tunnel where you have to go down the waterfall stairs?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think so, its been a few years but it was post TLS update. Is that always going to happen there or was that just a very uncanny situation that tends to break?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's meant to happen, it's the single most moronic crescendo in the game and if you don't have one or more biles before you get there it's fricking over
          Shit is moronicly overtuned with the sheer amount of zombies it spawns, that crescendo alone is half the reason I hate cold stream

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but there are a few endless crescendos in the L4D2 campaigns, Cold Stream's just sucks a lot more than the others.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>the horde never ends for the entire rest of the map and is just endless waves of infected and SI constantly going on despite the fact that there isn't even some weird event or trigger going on, the spawn system just randomly fricking broke until the next map acts like it never happened
      That's how the ending to every CS level goes it's the campaign's gimmick moron git gud

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      TLS update fricked up how hordes work and SI all work and spawn together now

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        works fine on my PC

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The flow of the game is great and hasn't been topped by any other games in its genre, at least in every thing it does right.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this. It's actually absurd how they were able to distill the formula in its purest form and got it right on the first go.

      Everything after that basically just builds upon that formula but because L4D got nearly everything right it's hard to top it without diluting the gameplay which loses the point of L4D's simplicity.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I don't seem them adding anything more to the game in the event of a sequel beyond maaaybe more biome specific zombies or variant skins for weapons. Maybe more creative ways to progress campaigns but custom maps do that just fine. Anything else would upset the balance.

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it’s the only game i can think of that i can pick up and play when catching up with old friends or my family when we arent all running around in life
    >obvious objective (kill the frickin zombies)
    >simple gameplay
    >heaps of custom made campaigns worth roughly an hours playtime
    aww yeah. lookin forward to some xmas downtime on my ‘eck

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      also
      >game is what, 14 gig on its own and campaign maps are 200mb - 3gb each max?
      even my pakinet can download that in under an hour at it’s slowest

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >favorite campaign
    >go-to survivor in each team
    >least favorite survivor overall

    >Dead Center
    >Bill / Rochelle
    >Zoey

    Who else here /nocrosshair/ ?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dark Carnival
      >Bill/Nick
      >Louis
      I don't understand the Rochelle hate when Louis is so milquetoast. He's entertaining enough, but pretty boring by comparison to the rest of the cast.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No Mercy
      Bill / Nick
      Rochelle

      I just like playing the ones with the funniest voice spams
      >A C130 - A C1 - A C130 is - A C1 - A C1
      >Let me know if you see a men's store, I got blood on my - Shithole?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Parish
      >Nick/Zoey
      >Bill

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Dam It gets finished by the community
    >the finale bricks your performance with the number of commons that constantly flood at you
    You'd think they'd fix it by now.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's multiple Dam It's and they all fricking suck no wonder the campaign was never finished it was just ass, the only way to do it right would be to scrap it and restart

  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are some good mods?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's up to you, anon. I personally have too many mods to list here in one post, so https://steamcommunity.com/id/crunchyfinn/myworkshopfiles/?appid=550&browsefilter=mysubscriptions
      All I can say is find mods that keep you immersed within the world. Don't install crazy shit like 'turn all commons into amogus lmao'. Put a few personal mods in for flavor.

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Third worlders

  53. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >campaigns are repetitive
    That's the whole point. They're fun but not long enough to be draining, something Shartle Rock completely failed to understand with their shitty campaigns in B4B

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean the campaigns are only like an hour each, you are clearly meant to play them in chunks

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >only like an hour each
        if you're bad

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >an hour each
          20-30 minutes.
          30-50 if you're playing Expert.

          Huh? Maybe it's been a long time since i last played idk
          It's probably due to the fricking gnome achievement i remember these things taking forever

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >an hour each
        20-30 minutes.
        30-50 if you're playing Expert.

  54. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blame the newBlack folk for making the game unplayable. These goddamn morons rush into Expert immediately thinking the game'll be easy, and they just die instantly, whereas on the Versus side of things, they immediately hop into the game, don't communicate or work with the team to sync attacks, don't keep pace on Survivor side, and literally play worse than default bots.

  55. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Autists love repetition.

  56. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    workshop

  57. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you said it yourself tard autists

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