>last character you played as must find Kira
>killing him is not enough, your character must actually know his identity, so just destroying the world won't work
>Kira starts unaware of your character's existence
Can they do it?
>last character you played as must find Kira
Nah. I don't think so
Funny enough anon if this thread had 500 replies, 490 would be stuff that doesn't come even close to finding Kira, but Joker is among the 10 few who stands a chance.
>can use mementos to trace Kira's general location
>can oppose him without risk
>can sort of bruteforce his identity by saying the names of random people and watching for a palace reaction
If he has a Persona that resists death then he has it in the bag through simple attrition. The more Light furthers his goals, the bigger his Palace would become and eventually Joker would have a simple time finding it just by the sheer scale of distortion to the Metaverse
You're assuming the death note's damage type would be death but in reality Light would be able to inflict many damage types depending on the death's cause.
If joker can find him by being given the tools he had in his game then most can beat Kira…
This is just a sad thread
Yes, the author said himself that he had to contrive character behaviour to not have Light lose immediately. It's the only reason Naomi Misora gets such an easily avoidable death (as that meme edit demonstrated).
>killing him is not enough, your character must actually know his identity
Just say you want a Visual Novel thread you homosexual.
I think me and my homie got this.
Putt-Putt is cheating
Cant hide from the long fender of the law Kira!
He'll travel through time and stop Kira before he even begins.
Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Fail.
Didn't post character but the logic is wrong.
>but the logic is wrong.
False.
Light's literal first move against L was to throw away 99% of his possible identities to a simple trick. Imagine how easy it would be to out him with literal magic.
You fail to realize that if Light threw away 99.999% of his possible identities he'd still be hiding among ~8 million people, and with no feasible way of investigating any of them.
And he could easily go back to hiding among the 99.999% by a simple plane flight.
None of Light's mistakes matter in the long run.
>then why didn't he do that against L?
Lore-wise he explains very early on he purposefully gave clues about his identity in order to lure L closer and kill him. L did the same. The real answer is that if Light just played optimally the show would be very boring.
>You fail to realize that if Light threw away 99.999% of his possible identities he'd still be hiding among ~8 million people, and with no feasible way of investigating any of them.
And yet L had his identity nailed shortly afterward.
>And he could easily go back to hiding among the 99.999% by a simple plane flight.
Yeah, because a Japanese school student suddenly fleeing the country right after Kira outed himself as being a Japanese school student wouldn't be suHispanicious.
>None of Light's mistakes matter in the long run.
They absolutely do matter, the only reason L couldn't arrest him in the show was because he was unwilling to let people die and getting someone killed is the only way he would be able to get definitive arrestable proof that Light was Kira. Someone who is immune to instant death or willing to sacrifice someone to find Kira does not suffer this problem.
What's he going to do? Joker can be immune to physical harm, guns, fire, air, water/ice, psychic power, nuclear power, and instant death. Same with Demifiend, who can also summon Odin who has pretty obvious fucking advantages in this case.
>And yet L had his identity nailed shortly afterward.
You say that as if that meant anyone can do it. L is one of the smartest fictional characters ever in terms of logical feats, almost on par with Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes.
Don't get me wrong, there are countless fictional characters that are supposed to be smarter than L in their narrative, like Batman. But in terms of actually using logic right in front of the reader, with no bullshit involved, having it plain written in front of you, there are very little characters that surpass L.
L nailed Light's identity through a series of feats that are out of reach of almost all (if not all) videogame characters. The only characters with a chance at finding Light are those who rely on magic or time traveling or so on.
>because a Japanese school student suddenly fleeing the country right after Kira outed himself as being a Japanese school student wouldn't be suHispanicious
1) You assume your videogame character would have access to this information which is doubtful
2) Literally no one in Death Note even bothered investigating these people
3) Even if they did investigate Light, they wouldn't find anything, you forget he was under constant surveillance 24/7 for weeks and also under literal arrest and still kept killing people
>only reason L couldn't arrest him in the show was because he was unwilling to let people die and getting someone killed is the only way he would be able to get definitive arrestable proof that Light was Kira
Wrong. L did arrest Light. But then Light transferred his powers to someone else and convinced L that he had done so with great success. When L got his hands on the Death Note, he would have evidence of Light's bullshit if not for the fake rule. Also, L was totally willing to kill someone, you forget he sacrifices Lind L. Taylor very early on and with no remorse too.
>You say that as if that meant anyone can do it. L is one of the smartest fictional characters ever in terms of logical feats, almost on par with Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes.
And he didn't need that intelligence to catch Kira. He only needed it to go up against Kira without breaking his own rules, which placed heavy restrictions on him.
A person without those restrictions has no such issues, at that point, it's up to Light not fucking up, which is impossible because Light is a dumbass with a massive ego.
>The only characters with a chance at finding Light are those who rely on magic or time traveling or so on.
Oh wow so literally the exact thing I originally said. Thanks for agreeing with me I guess.
You're not wrong in theory but you haven't named one single character with the skillset to pull it off. Because in theory it looks easy, just find someone with L's capabilities except no difficult personality. In practice no such character exists.
>You're not wrong in theory but you haven't named one single character with the skillset to pull it off.
You already named one, Joker. But also to humor the rest of your post
>1) You assume your videogame character would have access to this information which is doubtful
If the character is dropped into Death Note's universe and tasked with "finding Kira" then anyone who isn't a fucking dumbass is going to immediately seek out any body of authority that is currently doing that and try to join them. From there it's about whether L trusts them or not which would be more character dependent. The exception would be characters who prefer to work on their own, but they're either going to get stonewalled fast and turn to the authorities, or are competent enough to find out what the investigation team knows on their own.
>2) Literally no one in Death Note even bothered investigating
Except you know the people in charge of investigating Kira who had them all under watch until they were eliminated as suspects. The entire reason Light was even suspected in the first place
>3) Even if they did investigate Light, they wouldn't find anything, you forget he was under constant surveillance 24/7 for weeks and also under literal arrest and still kept killing people
And? If he fled the country they'd immediately nab him for it, that's completely suHispanicious.
>Wrong. L did arrest Light. But then Light transferred his powers to someone else and convinced L that he had done so with great success
He didn't convince L at all, he just removed L's ability to extract actionable proof that Light was Kira.
The OP didn't say they had to prove to the court that Light was Kira, they just said they "must find Kira." The entire reason Light was able to go toe-to-toe with L despite being completely outclassed by him intellectually was because L was operating under heavy restrictions and Light had none AND had a startinginformation advantage.
>Lind
Was on death row, not illegal to kill.
>You already named one, Joker
Joker wins not thanks to Light's mistakes, but because he can bruteforce Kira's identity no matter how meticulous he is
>If the character is dropped into Death Note's universe and tasked with "finding Kira" then anyone who isn't a fucking dumbass is going to immediately seek out any body of authority that is currently doing that and try to join them
Anon governments simply don't have that sort of information, there is no one keeping a list of students who decided to travel abroad, and if they tried keeping one they'd find it'd be amounting to thousands of people by the end of the first month
>Except you know the people in charge of investigating Kira who had them all under watch until they were eliminated as suspects
Like I said later on watching Light proved to only be a testament to his innocence, your vidya character would probably fool themselves into believing he is innocent after watching him for weeks to no avail
>And? If he fled the country they'd immediately nab him for it
Now you're contradicting himself. They wouldn't nab him immediately otherwise they'd be nabbing thousands of people on the regular. They would MAYBE watch him with low effort, but again even with a world-class extraordinaire detective like L watching Light 24/7 it is still a fruitless endeavor
>The OP didn't say they had to prove to the court that Light was Kira
Correct, your character must just point Kira's identity with 100% assurance, they don't need to be able to prove it to anyone
>>Lind
>Was on death row, not illegal to kill.
So what? L just had to kill someone, he could easily find another death row inmate. And again, he was willing to do so. What caused L to fail definitely wasn't his alleged inability to kill people.
>Joker wins not thanks to Light's mistakes, but because he can bruteforce Kira's identity no matter how meticulous he is
Wow it's almost like the only reason Light wasn't caught immediately was because he was cautious and had a literal supernatural informational advantage and when up against someone else with a supernatural advantage instead of being up against a normal ass human he's suddenly fucked.
>Anon governments simply don't have that sort of information
But L does. He's going to find out that some weird dude with magic powers is trying to join the investigation and immedately put them up at the top of his list of suspects.
>your vidya character would probably fool themselves into believing he is innocent after watching him for weeks to no avail
Most vidya characters wouldn't even suspect Light until they had evidence to do so, barring ones like Phoenix Wright that would bumble their way into it through dumb luck.
>They wouldn't nab him immediately otherwise they'd be nabbing thousands of people on the regular.
Their list didn't even have thousands of people on it, retard. It was small enough that the FBI was able to assign a personal agent to each and every one of them. You think that agent would see them get on a flight to bumfuckistan and just go "hm, normal Japanese student things!"? Then you're too stupid to have understood DN in the first place and have to be trolling.
>even with a world-class extraordinaire detective like L watching Light 24/7 it is still a fruitless endeavor
I already addressed this, incorrect.
>your character must just point Kira's identity with 100% assurance,
Which is magnitudes easier for characters without L's ego or morals holding them back, EG Columbo who would beat Kira easily.
>So what?
So "killing" him didn't violate L's personal rules. He was able to use Lind because he was on Death Row, the gambit wouldn't work again. If it was someone who was personally on his investigation team it would be a different story.
>Wow it's almost like the only reason Light wasn't caught immediately was because he was cautious and had a literal supernatural informational advantage and when up against someone else with a supernatural advantage instead of being up against a normal ass human he's suddenly fucked.
No, Light fares well against most characters with supernatural abilities, it's just that Joker can bruteforce the identity of any supervillain without exposing himself to any danger, he hardcounters anyone really.
>muh L
Anon why are you assuming your character can cooperate with L? This makes no sense. If Death Note's canon events are to take place Light will just get caught by Near eventually, so any videogame character would just have to survive long enough to instawin. This challenge obviously presumes your character must do it alone, being able to do it with L's help is like a "you didn't lose as hard as the others but you still lost"
>It was small enough that the FBI was able to assign a personal agent to each and every one of them
This was after Light started intentionally giving his identity away to lure L, and no, it wasn't "one agent to each one", each agent investigated dozens of people
>No, Light fares well against most characters with supernatural abilities
In terms of pure numbers? Sure he'd fare well against the hordes of "nameless Harry Potter Wizard#438834" but when talking about videogame characters with any kind of death immunity, mind powers, or hidden identity he's lost his only real advantage in staying hidden.
>Anon why are you assuming your character can cooperate with L? This makes no sense. If Death Note's canon events are to take place Light will just get caught by Near eventually, so any videogame character would just have to survive long enough to instawin. This challenge obviously presumes your character must do it alone, being able to do it with L's help is like a "you didn't lose as hard as the others but you still lost"
Because otherwise the exercise is pointless because every character loses because the government immediately tries to arrest them for being some weirdo with magic powers and no identification.The only reasonable assumption is that they're put in L's place with all of his resources or they're put in the universe intact.
>This was after Light started intentionally giving his identity away to lure L
Because the FBI was behind L. L already had the suspect list narrowed down to "gifted Japanese high school student" after the Lind gambit.
>Anon why are you assuming your character can cooperate with L? This makes no sense. If Death Note's canon events are to take place Light will just get caught by Near eventually, so any videogame character would just have to survive long enough to instawin. This challenge obviously presumes your character must do it alone, being able to do it with L's help is like a "you didn't lose as hard as the others but you still lost"
What? Anon just rethink this.
For this challenge your character must win on their own merits. I can give you the "the government won't arrest you for having magical powers" as a freebie, but no, I won't give you the "your character also controls the entirety of interpol and has access to all information from all governments for free btw", that's bullshit.
>For this challenge your character must win on their own merits. I can give you the "the government won't arrest you for having magical powers" as a freebie, but no, I won't give you the "your character also controls the entirety of interpol and has access to all information from all governments for free btw", that's bullshit.
None of that is specified by the OP
OP assumed you'd assume because he has an IQ that can't boil water
>I won't give you the "your character also controls the entirety of interpol and has access to all information from all governments for free btw", that's bullshit.
Anon, the entire plot of Death Note is bullshit.
It's an edgy anime for 13 year old pseuds.
Sorry anon. Kira can't beat Rean.
How would Kira kill Putt-Putt? The Death Note only works on humans.
1) We don't know if the Death Note only works on humans. The Death Note's rules are not absolute, they are the product of Ryuuk's interpretation on how it works. No one has ever experimented the Death Note on non-human sentient life.
2) This is not the "can your character survive the death note" thread, it's the "can your character find Kira's identity" thread. Nevertheless Light can easily arrange Putt-Putt's death by forcing the government to kill him.
Putt-Putt has saved the day so many times it would be impossible to find a single government official able or willing to put him down. You know he even saved a whole zoo once.
>1) We don't know if the Death Note only works on humans.
I feel like you can't act on the assumption that it does work on non-humans for this contest, you should only include actual feats from the manga/adaptations and the rules as-written (including corrections and addendums to them
added later). Once you get into "well it COULD work like that" then this thought experiment loses its appeal.
I just feel like saying that the death note only works on humans is dishonest. It doesn't make sense. The basis of the death note is that it borrows the Shinigami King's power to kill someone. The rule "The human whose name shall die" doesn't state it only works on humans, that's just an assumption. And the Death Note universe does not have sentient non-humans aside from the shinigami, who are obviously exempt to avoid internal fights.
But anyway this is an useless debate because Light has all governments from the world on the palm of his hands, he can easily arrange the death of anyone and anything that is immune to the death note unless they are actually strong to face the whole world (in which case the question remains: are they good enough to find Kira's identity?)
The Death Note doesn't work on Shinigami and specifically mentions human beings in the instructions, it doesn't make sense that it would work on nonhuman entities. Especially mechanical ones being that they can't suffer heart attacks in the case of a default.
It BORROWS the King's power, it doesn't let you use all of it. It's a tool he created for Shinigami to use specifically to kill human beings, not animals or other races.
The instructions were written by Ryuuk and in a specific way that would bait whoever picked it up into a killing spree. Also, the assertion "The human whose name is written shall die" does not exclude the possibility that other species could die. If I say "Humans are mammals" I am not excluding the possibility of other mammals existing. Finally, it wouldn't even be the first rule that Light proves to be wrong because Ryuk didn't test it enough.
The death note is not just a tool for killing human beings, it's for harvesting an unexplained life essence to the shinigami. It presumably doesn't work on animals otherwise as ethical sapient beings we expect the shinigami would just kill non-sapient cattle instead of humans. But an argument is to be made that other sapient non-human beings (like Sayians) have the same life essence as humans.
Either way we will never know because the Death Note universe didn't explore these possibilities. But again, this debate isn't decisive for any character that was posted in the thread so far, so it's not like I am being pedantic and relying on it just to not give someone the win of this challenge
>Also, the assertion "The human whose name is written shall die" does not exclude the possibility that other species could die
anon this is just illogical and you need to rethink this.
If the Death Note worked on animals then L would have tried it.
if it does work on animals and L didn't even think of trying it then L is a retard, which violates the premise of the work and thus must not be the case.
>1) We don't know if the Death Note only works on humans
The literal first rule says it.
>that ad
holy shit they predicted the epic games vs apple court case
make a new vid e;r
well.
>Convinces Kira to join him
Haha...
>just destroying the world won't work
Who says? Kira isn't a threat if he's reduced to cosmic dust.
>Lieutenant, prepare for Saturation bombardment. Also, pillage the planet's nanoforge while we're at it
Alan Wake, so uh maybe? Kira may have the Death Note but Alan can rewrite reality from The Dark Place.
Anyone who is immune to the death note and has a triple digit IQ would be able to find him. He is a fucking retard. The hard part wasn't finding out who Kira was, it was getting the evidence to pin it on him without dying.
If he has a Dio's then he could maybe trick Light into revealing himself by dying, but it would be an extremely low chance, it would depend on how intelligent he is which is info that I don't know if it's even in the game.
Otherwise definitely not.
I am the law.
He'd figure out who Kira is, but forget everything after binge drinking.
Harry has the potential to cooperate with an on-going taskforce (L's or Near's) and achieve great results, but he would most likely fail because no one in his universe is smart enough to play 5D chess with Death Note characters.
Fail
Literally who?
Probably wouldn't work but yeah he has no chance
>he doesn't know who the Demi-Fiend is
newfag
Yep. I'm thinking it's time for a high Inland Empire and Shivers check that makes the entire thing fall apart in one second and guarantee him a victory, only for Harry to tell Kim he needs to blow his brains out anyway.
Pic related
During the investigation he would end up teaming up with Light and make him wear the pisshomosexual jacket.
The things I do for love.
>armored core 6 protag
No i dont think so
Would easily find Kira after a tense chase scene by pure coincedence, probably due to Eustace fucking up
No diff
>RoboCop
Would it even work on him? He's already dead. He sucks at detective shit, so he ain't catching Kira.
He could just enter a Pay n' Spray every time Kira was close to discovering his identity
Fail.
An interesting character but I don't see how he could do it. The whole point of the death note is that it leaves no traces. Sissel already struggled enough to solve murders committed manually.
Another interesting choice. Geralt is way too famous in-universe, but if we assume he gets isekai'd and no one in Japan knows him, he is a really strong choice. He is extremely smart and wouldn't die to the death note easily, he'd always be covering his face and taking precautions and so on. He can sense magic and would probably be attracted to Ryuuk.
Fail.
yes this is cheating
>goes back before dude dies
>can't do anything
>can track anyone through phone/powerlines
>can cheat death
>time traveling powers so he can study exactly how someone died
yes, he is busted
>Geralt
Maybe if the Witcher medallion reacts to the death note and Geralt just happens to be on holiday in Japan and just happens to walk by Light's house
Soldier in tf2 would kill him accidentally
>Cyberpunk corpo V
Kira is probably fucked.
Fail.
He could arrange terrorist organizations or foreign military groups to kill Putt-Putt.
Fail.
There is a decent chance Light would hire Phoenix for his legal defense in case he ever needed.
Can't just say fail without justifying it choom.
I only justify those who stand a reasonable chance, you can't just name "random FPS character" and expect me to take it seriously.
Seems to me you're actually a room temp retard that can't defend his point, and is just shitting up the board.
>Commander Shepard
I guess he could if he had all his technological bullshit and all the crew mates. He is a very well known individual so killing him is technically easy for Light. Then again he already died and was brought back, I don't know if the Death Note works on that.
He's fucked.
would be a kino case though
>somehow figures out a mysterious force killed the victim
>uses Maya to question the victim
>victim called some highschool student a fag
>Kira gets dragged to court
He'd have some stupid as fuck plot armor like accidentially bumping into Kira and somehow switching the Deathnote with his notebook.
And then he's unaware for most of the case while Kira tries to get it back and overestimates Phoenix completely.
I'm sure Phoenix could get Ryuk to show up to the witness stand by pulling out an apple that he grabbed from Light's house during an earlier investigation
Doomguy would eventually kill him by exhaustive search and Light having no means to kill him, ez
Fail.
I haven't played his game but it seems promising
Fail
>enters alternative dimension where everything is a solvable puzzle with his goth demon girlfriend
>Not only pins down who Kira is but also kills him with magic bullshit
Psst... nothing personal
Kirafags LOST
I disagree with this. He still needs to collect enough evidence to actually solve the case, just being in the labyrinth doesn't mean he can always solve it.
>Omni-Man
Yeah probably
>has an infinite timeloop to figure it out
It's not a matter of if but when.
something tells me this guy could pull it off
>Kira is Baba is you
>turns himself in
He could do it.
Baba is you
make
Baba
Infinite Babas, can't kill them all.
I don't know what is the verdict on this, Baba's game just doesn't translate well into real life.
Haven't played his game but from what I looked up your character indeed wins against Kira, congratulations for being the second victorious reply
Fail, but your logic on Naegi being supernatural made me kek
Kek that would be a kino spin-off
>I don't know what is the verdict on this
But for baba to have the "Kira" word she'd need to be in the same room as Light or at least in the vicinity.
Fail.
Correct, but are any of them playable? Omniscient characters are usually side characters.
Fail.
Read the full post
From what I gathered Demi-Fiend can seek help from omniscient demons, that's why I said he wins
>But for baba to have the "Kira" word she'd need to be in the same room as Light or at least in the vicinity.
Then it would come down to whether Light could write "baba" in the notefive minutes before Baba could make itself Kira
Fair enough.
Fail
I only write "Fail" to characters with no reasonable chance. I hope you are not the guy who posted Vergil. Just tell me in a short post in what hilarious way a brainlet like Vergil would find Kira's identity.
For this challenge to be fair we must assume the character gets isekai'd on their prime. He has this in the bag
>I only write "Fail" to characters with no reasonable chance.
Then you're going to have a hard time convincing me why you think I has no reasonable chance without sounding like a gibbering, drooling retard.
why not try convincing him?
Why should I have to explain how an omnipotent extradimensional unidentifiable omnipotent information entity can beat a schoolboy with a magic book? The fact that he simply said "Fail" to it is proof that he's a fucking retard.
if you tell him that then maybe he'll stop being a stubborn asshole and take you seriously. why waste your time on this retard?
>if you tell him that then maybe he'll stop being a stubborn asshole and take you seriously
But that would be less funny.
yeah but then everybody else has to read what is essentially you playing with yourself.
That's my fetish.
Anon, I want you to explain to me how Light can beat a demigod that's no longer human that lived for centuries as the guardian of knowledge of his people thanks to the power and enlightenment given to him with the power of a literal creation god.
Judging by your posts you actually respond with "fail" to characters you're unfamiliar with which makes you a massive homosexual. Evidence for my case
>Fail
Please explain how I loses to Light then, retard.
>From what I gathered Demi-Fiend can seek help from omniscient demons, that's why I said he wins
Yes, but his existence requires Kira to already be dead which sort of goes against your rules. Demi-Fiend also needs to be stronger than demons to be able to have them do anything for him.
>Haven't played his game
You do know Demi-Fiend exists solely in a post-apocalyptic world ruled by demons where Kira would be dead already, right? Although neither him becoming the Demi-Fiend nor the world getting destroyed is his fault or desire.
>finding Kira
maybe
>exposing him
probably not
Naegi's luck is outright supernatural so there's a big chance for the death note not work properly on him
>Naegi's luck is outright supernatural so there's a big chance for the death note not work properly on him
how can a person think like this
Its the actual in universe reason for him not dying when he should because hes a fucking idiot.
They might just fuck up with a typo or something in the Death Note.
>They might just fuck up with a typo or something in the Death Note.
that's more reasonable than it not working on him
Im not that anon, I was just trying to think of a reason why his luck would result in him not dying is all. I agree that it just not working is sort of retarded.
I think Saltzpyre would do fine actually. Finding witches and arresting/killing them just sounds like a more extreme version of finding Light. He could always pull a favor with Lohner too who is the in-universe equivalent of a CIA spook.
trap him in an infinite spiral, make his book worthless by having written out it's effects.
I read Death Note like 15 years ago. Doesn't the Death Note need a first and last name plus a face to actually be able to murder someone? Wouldn't characters without last names or who always hide their face be impervious?
It only needs a "name". Doesn't say anything about first or last name. I know it's not canon but in the movie it is implied that you could kill Ryuuk who doesn't have a last name. Either way it seems pretty cut clear that it works on any name no matter the composition.
>Wouldn't someone who always hide their face be impervious?
Yes. But the crux of this challenge is finding Light, not just surviving him.
And I don't think anyone capable of finding Light would have to worry about being killed, their IQ would already be miles ahead of the possibility of being caught by Light.
I think you're ignoring a good strategy of just always wearing a full face mask or helmet and then going completely public saying you want Kira dead thus causing Kira act however he would. Again, it's been like 15 years since I read so I don't know how Kira would react to bait. Surely though if someone random helmet wearing maniac told the public his wrongdoings and he needs to be murdered it'd make hiding more difficult.
>Again, it's been like 15 years since I read so I don't know how Kira would react to bait.
One of the main reasons Light was caught was because he was a retarded that kept taking every single bait.
>One of the main reasons Light was caught was because he was a retarded that kept taking every single bait.
so he posts on Ganker? Got it
>go on live TV
>hold up a wojack and say "Kira, this is you"
>win
>Kira I will use this basedjack to end this little game between us
I win.
>>last character you played as must find Kira
>your character must actually know his identity
That's the ONLY victory criteria? Any character with omniscience wins by default, example any of the dozen characters Japan pumped out around the 2010's when they were briefly enamoured by Akashic Record references.
It's over
>played as the nuke general in c&c generals
Erghhh i guess just nuke japan.
>Payday 2
Light might be somewhat aware of the Payday Gang since they are criminals. He probably manages to kill Hoxton with the Death Note since the FBI still has some files on him after the breakout. This pisses off the gang so Bain has the gang raid the Kira Task Force HQ either loud or quietly, they manage to steal the Death Note during the raid, and somehow might unintentionally reveal that Light is Kira
I'm sure the Payday gang could steal the Death Note under Light's eyes stealthily, or bust into the Task Force loudly and rip it out of Light's hands, but I don't think they would be able to find out Kira's identity
>Namless one
It’ll be a wild ride no matter what
Not really, first attempt would solve the issue. The book doesn’t do well with paradoxes.
That would be such an interesting reversal when you think about it.
>Kira kills someone while NO is in the world
>transcended one now knows him assuming the shadows don’t take Kira right then and there.
Better ending than the show got.
>Trigger
He's an ace pilot not a detective.
>An Ascended God-Warrior, basically a demi-god that used to be human but is now linked to actual celestial beings (the Death Note is clearly stated to only work on humans)
>Even then, he could only realistically be killed by a Darkin weapon (good luck finding out that sort of esoteric ancient knowledge)
>Incredibly intelligent even before ascending, was a guardian of knowledge and peerless strategist.
>W>E>Flash>Ult>Q>AA>Q>AA>Q...
Life is part of a cycle. Yours is over...
It's over.
>harry dubois
i win
the real fail is that you bought a Ganker pass
>gets hired to do it
50/50 chance but its kinda cheating if he just hires someone else to use bullshit tech to find kira
>kira killed his wife
kira is dead within the week
Fail.
Why do I have to specify that your character doesn't get freebie bullshit? Do I have to specify your character doesn't instantly get a 20 inch cock too? Obviously nothing is given unless stated so, your character must win through his own capabilities.
Haven't played.
>I think you're ignoring a good strategy of just always wearing a full face mask or helmet and then going completely public saying you want Kira dead thus causing Kira act however he would
Anon just re-read it. Your character wouldn't even need a face mask because Kira doesn't give a fuck about people protesting him unless they are also investigating him. What you are describing is totally ineffective.
>Why do I have to specify that your character doesn't get freebie bullshit?
Because you do. You just said "can they beat Light," hell if I wanted to I could say "yeah because they fight monsters and Light is some pasty fuckboy of course they could beat him up." Especially since you're the one who's spent an entire fucking thread arguing semantics
>You just said "can they beat Light"
This is embarrassing. Re-read the OP. You're not getting any other (you)s.
>Kira doesn't give a fuck about people protesting him unless they are also investigating him
Aren't our hypothetical characters investigating him? Isn't that the whole point of this thread?
>protagonist from Second Sight
Oh god this gets so fucking confusing and nebulous it’s like an anime all its own.
Nobody is taking you seriously after you said an omnipresent entity doesn't beat Light somehow.
>he can totally defeat Yahweh though.
He can if you're the "Fail" retard who think the death note works on non humans
>Canonically outsmarted a super genius 227,000 times, can hack into said super genius' security
>One of the smartest humans on earth said he was smarter than him
>Can just do a Dragon Ball and wish for the emeralds to reveal for his location
Light has no IQ feats that go above midwit level btw, Eggman >>>> Composite anime """manipulators"""
The emeralds only give a wish in some very specific iterations, don't they? Otherwise it's a fail.
Yes, the point stands. For the nth time, being impervious to the death note does not mean you can magically know who is using it.
>oh no he didn't play that one shin megami tensei game, he clearly doesn't know anything about video games
Retard
Fail on their own merit but perhaps with the help of the gods a runescape character could indeed do it
Nah Kira couldn't beat a Runescape player character.
>The emeralds only give a wish in some very specific iterations, don't they?
No, wish granting is one of their powers, and it doesn't require specific conditions
>Otherwise it's a fail.
Light is not smarter than Eggman lmao, your verse is getting stomped
>>oh no he didn't play that one shin megami tensei game,
Not what I said dumbass, no wonder you think Light is smart.
>being impervious to the death note does not mean you can magically know who is using it.
Yeah but being impervious to death and smarter than L and Light combined does, moron.
That was obvious the moment he replied to
You're delusional, I haven't played his VN but I read Satoru's wiki entry and also a synopsis of Remember 11, he doesn't have what it takes to achieve the superhuman feat of finding the Death Note's wielder
Light can't beat Nasus. But Nasus can't find Kira's identity either. So he fails the challenge.
It's not Light who does the kill but rather the Shinigami King. The Death Note just redirects his power.
> I read Satoru's wiki entry
What does a dead guy have to do with whether I could beat Kira?
>Nasus can't find Kira's identity
You're severely underrating Nasus' knowledge and intelligence as an avatar of wisdom that spent several lifetimes studying and gaining knowledge. Nasus has time and knowledge to spare.
>starts pulling technical bullshit to cope
People used Wish on NO, TO and the shadows didn’t chase the gods, he went after the Wish caster. Fucksakes death note is just a shitty Wish spell in DnD.
>People used Wish on NO, TO and the shadows didn’t chase the gods, he went after the Wish caster
If this is true your character wins, congratulations
Fail
Fail
Fail
No you are not. Fail.
how the fuck does batman fail nigga?
Because OP likes Death Note more than Batman
OP is a retard lol 90% of the iterations of Batman would find Kira in minutes
>Batman fails
He's the best detective in fiction lol
>being impervious to the death note
NO isn’t, his other half takes another soul and forces it to resurrect NO and his other half knows every hand that slayed NO. This isn’t even getting into the millions of shadow beast that react to his every death.
What the fuck is this fanfiction?
>What the fuck is this [CANON]
Your favorite verse is jobs to base Sonic in both IQ and strength
>Your favorite verse is jobs to base Sonic in both IQ and strength
lol
lmao
rofl
roflmao
roflcopter
Sonic TANKED that
Hold up. You do understand how the nameless one works right?
The guy doesn't even know who Demifiend is, he's an /a/ tourist.
/a/ knows DN lore better than him, he's come from "can [x] beat light" becoming a new trend on youtube
/a/fags at least know that the Death Note doesn't work on humans
on non-humans*
>pray mage
>tick eat purple sweets
yeah Kira is going down.
maybe?
Maybe.
Anon your whole idea is "my character will go on the streets with a mask screaming against Light'
Not by default but he can get them if he deems necessary. Light was always ready to do the trade.
>Anon your whole idea is "my character will go on the streets with a mask screaming against Light'
Tell me why Light wouldn't be afraid of someone gathering the masses in a massive witch hunt who's also immune to the Death Note due to one article of clothing.
get inhaled idiot
Sons of the Forest protagonist
0% chance Kira can figure out who he is and he can track him down and beat him to death with a skull club easy
Fail
Light has way more logic feats than Eggman.
Eggman is like Batman, he's a smart guy in the narrative but has nothing to show for it other than "look, he built this gadget all by himself!"
Fail
I've seen this joke in the past and it never makes sense. Not every quest in skyrim has an objective marker, those that involve deductions specifically never do.
>those that involve deductions specifically never do.
Such as?
>Light has way more logic feats than Eggman
He doesn't? He's described as calculating and deceptive, showing that by manipulating entire planets and conquering them in short periods of time, even other geniuses like Dr Wily/Dr starline are afraid of him, and has an AI that makes trillions of calculations in seconds
The fact that you think Lighttroon, who lost btw and has zero high IQ feats, is comparable to him is just lol
>He's described as calculating and deceptive
Being described as something is not a feat
>showing that by manipulating entire planets and conquering them in short periods of time
Which he does either off-screen or through brute force, not through logic
>even other geniuses like Dr Wily/Dr starline are afraid of him
Yes because Egghead is the iron man of the sonic universe, he has absurd technology, but no logical feats
>has an AI that makes trillions of calculations in seconds
And how would an AI help against Kira?
>Being described as something is not a feat
Except he does
>not through logic
300 IQ lol, and has more analytical feats than your favorite character
>And how would an AI help against Kira?
"Sage run me a quick calculation on the most probable culprit here"
Done, in 3 seconds.
>300 IQ lol
If he had 300 IQ he wouldn't be chasing the hedgehog
>"Sage run me a quick calculation on the most probable culprit here"
You still haven't explained how a glorified calculator can find Kira. The whole point of the Death Note is that it leaves no traces.
Does Kira has access to the Shinigami eyes in this scenario?
Interesting.
Since this never got a sequel the outcome could be anything. The ending where he solves everything is just as likely as the one where he is a retard and doesnt understand anything.
I dont think OP knows who half these characters hes replying to with fail are
>Karryn
She probably can.
>Talk to police officer
>New Quest: Kira's Justice
>Objective: Bring Kira to Justice
>Follow the quest marker to Light
>Kill him
>Receive a steel axe as a reward with enchanments that are 25% weaker than the ones on my current weapon
Ah, good hunt.
>destroying the world won't work
Wouldn't hurt trying
>teemo
it's over.
Joanna Dark but I don't know enough about her yet. COULD she do it?
Is this supposed to be difficult?
could agent 47 find him tho?
He has the resources of the ICA, and in the games tracks down multiple people who are so rich and powerful they basically don't exist. Not to mention 47 would be practically immune to the death not by not really having a name and is a master of disguise.
Hell he just needs Kira to screw up the full name and face clause to kill himself, then just comb the obituaries for someone who was found dead with a notebook full of names of dead people with the last entry is "Tobias Rieper."
Assuming he doesn't throw an apple behind some boxes and then stuffs ryuk's body in a hamper and wears his outfit.
>Assuming he doesn't throw an apple behind some boxes and then stuffs ryuk's body in a hamper and wears his outfit.
Kek
I don't think the ICA would risk themselves hunting Kira and 47 stands no chance by himself
But hypothetically, if we assumed the entirety of the ICA was involved, they would fare a good chance, I see them as similarly capable to L's taskforce
>given enough time maybe the Dark Souls protagonist will eventually find Kira and kill him.
Why do people say this shit?
Can you spell out HOW your character would "bruteforce" this given enough time? Will he just make a list of the 8 billion people in the world and go through it one by one? Because even if he tried that, Light appeared innocent even under 24/7 surveillance
Fail
>ICA would risk themselves hunting Kira
What risk? They're a shadow organization with limitless resources who would be upset at kira for honing in on their business.
Light erased several shadow organizations that were after him, if the ICA is competent they would understand the immense risk and would withdraw.
>its a the ICA is completely destroyed except for 47 and diana and they end up saving the world anyway episode
The Chosen Undead from Dark Souls is already dead so the Death Note can't kill him (or if it does kill him he'll just come back) so it becomes a matter of perseverance, given enough time maybe the Dark Souls protagonist will eventually find Kira and kill him.
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Death note was mid
Yes, and Kira won't know a thing
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How would he stop a Deviljho? He has no name.
nani
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I hate admitting this but Layton's logical feats are exactly the type you'd need to catch Light. He'd at the very least understand that Kira needs a name+face 5 minutes into the challenge.
>Wolf would eventually win
Another retard who thinks you can bruteforce this
Fail
Fail
Fail
Anon there is no "knowledge" that can lead to finding Kira's identity. He needs IQ. Accumulating information does not translate to reasoning ability. Nasus is not omniscient
>yes, an omnipresent being couldn't find Kira's identity
Okay, pack it up folks, he's officially a retard.
>He needs IQ
Idk what you think being the shining star of a flourishing empire means.
He was a master strategist even before ascending, and I can guarantee you that requires a ton of logic, knowledge and mind games to pull off to the level Nasus did to guide Shurima to the greatness it had.
What do you mean bruteforce? He can acertain his general whereabouts through deduction just as L could and track suspects indefinitely, plus isn't working under the assumption that supernatural/metaphysical forces don't exist the way the rest of humanity is. He'll never be in danger, since neither Light nor anyone else will ever be aware of him, and Light is hardly infallible, he's like 17. He has a very specific MO and is working against something he can't see or kill. He's fucked, Wolf finds him before his natural lifespan expires, even if Light gives up on his grand designs and lives a completely normal life while only occasionally writing in the notebook and pretending it's a journal or some shit
>sekiro
Wolf would be kinda lost in the modern world but he is an immortal ninja. Light would never be able to find out his identity (or even his existence) and wouldn't be able to kill him even if he did. Wolf would eventually win
AHAHAHAHA
>Because that strategy is largely ineffective at finding Kira.
Explain why.
Because Light is an undefeatable ultra super genius and not a moron who openly admits to being Kira in front of someone who could have very easily been duping him
My statement is self-explanatory
Fail
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Fine I admit it, 47 would win
>My statement is self-explanatory
Not him: no, it's not. Since you're so preoccupied with logic, you have to know that your statement logically cannot be "self-explanatory" because it relies on understanding of two terms that go unqualified within the statement itself ("that strategy" and "Kira")
Holy autism
Despite being the "world's greatest detective", Batman has zero logical feats, he is just the king of forensics and gadgets. Kira's kills are entirely supernatural and leave zero traces, so forensics don't help. Batman would have to rely on online surveillance and so long as Light is smart enough to use VPN he'd be golden.
What are logical feats in your opinion
I believe logical feats are when the character finds information through sheer logical deductions, without relying on gadgets or technology or supernatural abilities. Examples of characters good at this are Light, L, Akagi, Kaiji and especially Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes (as in, the original one, and not any other iteration of Holmes), Professor Layton, Phoenix Wright, honestly most VN characters in mystery stories.
Batman is supposed to be smart, but all his feats happen off-screen through asspulling the solution through technology, so I don't consider him to be truly smart, at least not in terms of logic. You may not agree with me, but does this at least make sense?
>and especially Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes (as in, the original one, and not any other iteration of Holmes)
Way to defeat your own argument by assuming what Conan Doyle's writing is like without actually reading any.
I have read all of his collection on Sherlock Holmes
Anon, you really can't mess with the breadth of batman continuity. Dude teamed up with the actual sherlock holmes.
Also an immortal monkey detective who dresses like Holmes.
Hell the riddler's whole gimmick is using riddles and logic puzzles and death traps.
Heck I can see the comic panel in my head as Batman with the cowl off siting at the bat computer while Alfred is being snarky and dressing his wounds while he mentions he's correlated all the mysterious deaths being reported, and trace its progression back to a suburban district of tokyo.
>Batman would have to rely on online surveillance and so long as Light is smart enough to use VPN he'd be golden.
batman has private satellites retard, and he can absolutely gain access to any surveillance system. He even figured out who the flash was despite being a total nobody. Come on nigga
YOU are the one who has repeated the words "logic" and "logical" in this thread, you fucking retard, so you don't get to act indignant when someone objects to your misuse of a term that in the field of rhetoric has a strict meaning.
L was able to find him within a few weeks who was basically emo batman sans-batsuit.
L also pins Kira as being very juvenile and prideful, which is something batman could absolutely prey on.
One could argue that if he did make the eyes deal, batman's cowl and secret identity wouldn't protect him since in Bruce's mind, he IS batman, and Bruce Wayne is just his cover.
>Deathmaster Snikch
Stalemate because Snikch is too cracked-out to make much progress on finding Kira, but he's also sneaky enough to keep knowledge of his existence away from Light for a very long time. Nothing happens until Light dies of being a retard in front of Near, at which point Snikch claims it as a great victory-success for himself and goes back to Skavenblight.
Death Note doesn't work on robots
EZ I just scroll the list of what I picked up and its either the guy before or after the death note gets picked up and the kind turns it into uranus.
>Jarvis, detonate Light Yagami's balls
The people she beats up along the way will tell her what she needs to know.
I'm in luck.
He's even immune to Shinigami eyes if wearing his cowl
wait so if you wear sun glasses you're immune to the eyes?
No. Circles means you can see the names. X means you can't.
We're fucked.
On the other hand, I wonder if the Patriots could deduce Kira's true identity and force Light to hand over the Death Note to them.
I believe the Patriots are the type of shadow organization that despite being brilliant isn't morally motivated enough to oppose Kira, so they'd just stay out of his way and fill the power gaps that he leaves behind. It takes a special kind of idealism to oppose Kira.
Fail
Fail
Being a good war strategist doesn't mean you are a good detective
Nigga cortana would 100% be able to find him. You're just a homosexual
The Patriots would definitely oppose Kira if they want the Death Note for themselves to help carry out their control over society
>Being a good war strategist doesn't mean you are a good detective
Agreed, but you miss the point that he needs to have a very good deductive reasoning, logic and iq to be able to achieve the level of prestige he gained.
And besides he wasn't just some war strategist, he's described as fiercely intelligent and always dutifully studied and tried to obtain as much knowledge as possible. And now extend that to several lifespans of doing that.
Anon I just think if Nasus was smart he wouldn't go 0/12 against a Teemo by the fucking 9 minute mark
>He didn't ban Teemo
You may be retarded
Fuck you.
>doesn't show his face or have a known name, immune to death note
>He's intelligent and calm
>Has an AI that is also immune to death note
Easily
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>summons holmes and the likes
>can remain inactive and anonymous
easy win
I don't know this character, but remember Light can backtrace any "summoner" type of character by forcing the summon to write the summoner's identity. With this in mind, do you still think your character can win?
Still don't think he wins, Light is unmatched in hiding himself. We don't know what he would do today because Death Note took place when online surveillance was nonexistent, but it is safe to assume today he would be using the best technology has to offer in terms of hiding your online traces.
I meant "logic" colloquially, but I respect your autism
>Light is unmatched in hiding himself.
His location got narrowed 100 folds by the second episode
>Light is unmatched in hiding himself
No he's not, that's not even true in-canon as shown explicitly in chapter 14
>because Death Note took place when online surveillance was nonexistent
No it wasn't, don't make assumptions just because you're ignorant of what Japan was like in 2003
>but it is safe to assume today he would be using the best technology has to offer in terms of hiding your online traces
Which would do him no good, because "the best technology has to offer" does little to protect an individual citizen's identity even in the real world.
>"the best technology has to offer" does little to protect an individual citizen's identity even in the real world.
I don't think you know how internet surveillance works, there is little you can do against someone who is taking the proper precautions other than getting into social engineering
>I meant "logic" colloquially, but I respect your autism
There's no such thing as using it "colloquially", either you care about logical demonstration or you just make random assertions based on your personal feelings. Oh, right, I know why you don't draw that distinction.
>Solid Snake
Actually an interesting opponent.
Snakes name being difficult information that not many people know is an advantage in his favor.
However, snake himself is popular. Assuming light figures out that solid snake is trying to find him, he could find information about snake not necessarily pertaining to his name.
Snake himself is an actual genius and is fluent in 6 languages. Assuming one of them is japanese, I feel like he could actually catch light. Especially with assistance from otacon.
I believe Solid Snake is the type of person that fares better in action rather than behind a chair doing investigations. It just doesn't fit his character.
Let's assume he suspects Light. The fuck could he do? Light can appear innocent even under 24/7 surveillance, EVEN UNDER ARREST FOR WEEKS, there is no way your dark souls or sekiro character can do shit anon, and Light would die from old age by the time he was a suspect
A non-human Dark Urge as a Cleric/Wizard with maxed Intelligence/Charisma and the right spells (Detect Thoughts, Speak with Dead, Death Ward) would be able to find Kira in Faerûn, maybe Japan if the locals don't freak out too much.
>Selects quest: Find Kira
>Follows marker on map
>Shouts Kira to death
>Loots book and sells it because books in Skyrim are trash
Too easy
book and sells it because books in Skyrim are trash
Aaaand he dies right here
Fuck the thread got autosaged. Congratulations to the winners, and better luck next time to the losers
>World of Horror
>The Horrible Heart Attack Homicide Case
>Several criminals and suspects are mysteriously dying of a heart attack.
>Dust of Seeing
>Ryuk
>God of Death
>Ending A: The God of Death
>Yagami Light
>The Self-proclaimed God of a New World
>Ending B: Death Notebook
>Death Note: (use) defeat target Human enemy [cost: 15 DOOM]
Kira writes his own name in the death note to escape this disgusting creature