what annoys me the most about the story is that they are actually and unironically just called secret stones. >go to goron city first >ancestor cutscene 1: "me ancestor, me fail to fight demon king, you worthy. have secret stone." >think "ok that was a little moronic. but its probably just the gorons" >see how riju is doing >ancestor cutscene 2: "me ancestor. me fail to fight demon king, you worthy, have secret stone"
and then i lost all hope in the story being even remotely interesting.
>unironically just called secret stones.
It's a SECRET stone, bro. >ok that was a little moronic. but its probably just the gorons
Kek.
It just seems like a clone of Breath of the Wild. Skyward Sword was the last unique story.
>It's a SECRET stone, bro.
WELL ITS NOT REALLY A SECRET IF EVERYONE WEARS THEM IN PLAIN FRICKING SIGHT OR TAKES EVERY CHANCE THEY CAN TO WRITE THEM DOWN IN RECORDED HISTORY.
I MEAN SERIOUSLY, IT JUST TOOK GANON ONE LOOK TO SAY >"ah yes, the secret stone. the stones of the zonai. the secret zonai stones that grant godly powers. those secret stones. they are very much secret"
HOW ARE THEY A SECRET?
>magic stones imbued with the light of the Triforce >originated from pre-SS Hyrule when the power of the gods was still prominent >powers gained from the stones reflect the individual’s character instead of being vaguely themed around a specific element >forgotten over time due to the thousands of years between rulers >still less powerful than the Triforce but allows more variable use instead of needing three main holders
I can’t even remember if the stones get any elaboration besides being related to the Zonai but some connection to the Triforce or the gods would be better than the new beast race that only really got introduced in this game
>unironically just called secret stones.
It's a SECRET stone, bro. >ok that was a little moronic. but its probably just the gorons
Kek.
It just seems like a clone of Breath of the Wild. Skyward Sword was the last unique story.
>It's a SECRET stone, bro.
WELL ITS NOT REALLY A SECRET IF EVERYONE WEARS THEM IN PLAIN FRICKING SIGHT OR TAKES EVERY CHANCE THEY CAN TO WRITE THEM DOWN IN RECORDED HISTORY.
I MEAN SERIOUSLY, IT JUST TOOK GANON ONE LOOK TO SAY >"ah yes, the secret stone. the stones of the zonai. the secret zonai stones that grant godly powers. those secret stones. they are very much secret"
HOW ARE THEY A SECRET?
Such a stupid name. Even Triforce stones would've been better. They could've expanded on the power of it and created new lore.
It's probably what they're literally called in Japanese and the localizers didn't care to change the name.
The sages didn't fail tough, Rauru chose to seal Ganondorf so Link could finish him off in the future, the sages lived the rest of their lives normally, unlike the champions.
Seeing the same cutscene x4 for each sage was pretty annoying.
Though the biggest problem I have with the writing is that most of it is buried in memories, and if I bump into a certain memory, or complete the whole set, I guess Link decides to be full mute and not tell anyone the Zelda they see isn't Zelda and that there is no reason to search for her anymore
Yeah, I did the dragon tear memories first and the game is not equipped for that. Like link knows exactly where Zelda is and that Ganondorf can fake being Zelda, so he should have a pretty good idea of what's happening yet he tells no one, hell he still has dialogue options which are like "I'm looking for clues on Zelda's whereabouts", like you literally rode zelda and pulled the master sword out of her fricking head. Now it just makes link look like either a moron or an butthole. It's not like the dragon tear memories are hidden either, they're right fricking there in the open.
Yeah. That's also annoying. Bad format just like in BOTW. Weird and lame.
>get all the geoglyph memories >"oh no, this zelda is fake! i bet if i go to kakariko i'll be able to tell them and enter the floating ring ruin. surely they will believe me, im link!" >"URRRRR NOPE SORRY! GO BEAT THE NOT!DIVINE BEASTS LOL LOL LOL!!!"
>muh zelda >muh story
literally zelda has never been about the story, minus ocarina of time and majoras mask
and even of those 2, Majoras Mask is the ONLY one that holds up as being interesting and thought provoking
wind waker's story is incredibly shallow. TP and skyward sword have the exact same problems except they decide to pad the story out with mindless cutscenes or literal MGS4 exposition dumps from your talking sword
the value of playing zelda games has ALWAYS been the overworld collect-a-thons and the dungeons
>uhhhhh dont you know the game is literal perfection? it's 10/10 and you're a mad snoy if you think otherwise >Yeah, the story was a bit lacking though. The repeat cutscenes at the end of each dungeon kinda sucked. >I FRICKING SAID IT WAS 10/10 SNOY THE STORY LITERALLY DOESN'T FRICKING MATTER OK? IT'S LITERAL PERFECTION ON EVERY LEVEL AND THAT'S THAT!
This wouldn't be an issue if the game didn't shove story in your face constantly. You can't have it both ways. If the story is terrible, you need to do a better job of keeping it out of my face.
>b-but you can le skip it
No, that's not a good enough excuse, especially when the entire tutorial is based around shoving the plot in your face, and then stripping you of your freedom so you can repeat the same boring tutorial as BOTW.
For me it's this >See these cool characters and shit? >Well it all happened in the past, you can't interact with it
Yes, no game is very deep, but I cry like a b***h anyway when a partner leaves cuz they were with me the whole game. BotW/TotK sucks at that
I only found one memory, and I've finished all the secret stone stuff. I was never really led in the right direction. Kind of annoyed I've done all this stuff and haven't sniffed the Master Sword.
>Zelda 1 >Direct sequel >Ambiguous prequel >Direct prequel >Direct sequel >Direct sequel >Alternate-timeline sequel >Reboot >Reboot >Reboot
What is the game plan here? Why have they started rebooting every fricking game? It's not hard to NOT directly contradict the previous fricking game.
>Use OOT link character design as the standard >Write the entire story in Old English >Take out all magiteck bullshit and Motorized vehicles. >Bring back Dekus >Major plot point would be turning koroks back to kokir (symbolic -> soulless into soulful) >at least 6 dungeons that have different colors associated with them >Fire anyone developing the game that shows even a faint hint of LGBT sympathy because they will try to take over the game and turn it into their own weird furry porn thing. >Return back to the original formula, no more weapon breaking bullshit that makes you not give a shit about the weapons you collect. >Delete the BOTW map and start over and make it much smaller and manageable. >Focus on Beauty and Christian morals above all else.
Those are the basics which can never happen because Nintendo as a whole is far too mentally ill to make it happen.
Achieving anything close to this is legitimately impossible for Nintendo.
Mostly right but for the implication that magitech is inherently bad (it's not, it can be based, it's just not something Zelda should've ever focused on, the spinner should've been the absolute furthest extent of it)
what annoys me the most about the story is that they are actually and unironically just called secret stones.
>go to goron city first
>ancestor cutscene 1: "me ancestor, me fail to fight demon king, you worthy. have secret stone."
>think "ok that was a little moronic. but its probably just the gorons"
>see how riju is doing
>ancestor cutscene 2: "me ancestor. me fail to fight demon king, you worthy, have secret stone"
and then i lost all hope in the story being even remotely interesting.
>unironically just called secret stones.
It's a SECRET stone, bro.
>ok that was a little moronic. but its probably just the gorons
Kek.
It just seems like a clone of Breath of the Wild. Skyward Sword was the last unique story.
*Of the main platform ones.
>It's a SECRET stone, bro.
WELL ITS NOT REALLY A SECRET IF EVERYONE WEARS THEM IN PLAIN FRICKING SIGHT OR TAKES EVERY CHANCE THEY CAN TO WRITE THEM DOWN IN RECORDED HISTORY.
I MEAN SERIOUSLY, IT JUST TOOK GANON ONE LOOK TO SAY
>"ah yes, the secret stone. the stones of the zonai. the secret zonai stones that grant godly powers. those secret stones. they are very much secret"
HOW ARE THEY A SECRET?
Such a stupid name. Even Triforce stones would've been better. They could've expanded on the power of it and created new lore.
>magic stones imbued with the light of the Triforce
>originated from pre-SS Hyrule when the power of the gods was still prominent
>powers gained from the stones reflect the individual’s character instead of being vaguely themed around a specific element
>forgotten over time due to the thousands of years between rulers
>still less powerful than the Triforce but allows more variable use instead of needing three main holders
I can’t even remember if the stones get any elaboration besides being related to the Zonai but some connection to the Triforce or the gods would be better than the new beast race that only really got introduced in this game
The secret is that nobody knows the secret. To everyone it's just a plain stone.
It's probably what they're literally called in Japanese and the localizers didn't care to change the name.
Yeah they're called hiseki in Japanese which is literally secret stone but it sounds better there.
>and the localizers didn't care to change the name.
And they did we would have morons shitting and pissing their pants over it
Can't win
The sages didn't fail tough, Rauru chose to seal Ganondorf so Link could finish him off in the future, the sages lived the rest of their lives normally, unlike the champions.
>I am your ancestor. Here's the secret stone
Yeah, this was pretty bad. Also
>I have new powers, I can make a clone.
A lot of the Ganondorf story parts were interesting, but this ally shit was the exact same interaction each time and almost the same as the last BOTW.
Seeing the same cutscene x4 for each sage was pretty annoying.
Though the biggest problem I have with the writing is that most of it is buried in memories, and if I bump into a certain memory, or complete the whole set, I guess Link decides to be full mute and not tell anyone the Zelda they see isn't Zelda and that there is no reason to search for her anymore
Yeah. That's also annoying. Bad format just like in BOTW. Weird and lame.
Yeah, I did the dragon tear memories first and the game is not equipped for that. Like link knows exactly where Zelda is and that Ganondorf can fake being Zelda, so he should have a pretty good idea of what's happening yet he tells no one, hell he still has dialogue options which are like "I'm looking for clues on Zelda's whereabouts", like you literally rode zelda and pulled the master sword out of her fricking head. Now it just makes link look like either a moron or an butthole. It's not like the dragon tear memories are hidden either, they're right fricking there in the open.
Side effect of the secret stones.
Or maybe Rauru's arm. Probably Rauru's arm.
>get all the geoglyph memories
>"oh no, this zelda is fake! i bet if i go to kakariko i'll be able to tell them and enter the floating ring ruin. surely they will believe me, im link!"
>"URRRRR NOPE SORRY! GO BEAT THE NOT!DIVINE BEASTS LOL LOL LOL!!!"
>muh zelda
>muh story
literally zelda has never been about the story, minus ocarina of time and majoras mask
and even of those 2, Majoras Mask is the ONLY one that holds up as being interesting and thought provoking
wind waker's story is incredibly shallow. TP and skyward sword have the exact same problems except they decide to pad the story out with mindless cutscenes or literal MGS4 exposition dumps from your talking sword
the value of playing zelda games has ALWAYS been the overworld collect-a-thons and the dungeons
The story plays a large role. Wind Waker's was dope and wholesome. TP was interesting. Skyward Sword was low tier and the talking sword was annoying.
>uhhhhh dont you know the game is literal perfection? it's 10/10 and you're a mad snoy if you think otherwise
>Yeah, the story was a bit lacking though. The repeat cutscenes at the end of each dungeon kinda sucked.
>I FRICKING SAID IT WAS 10/10 SNOY THE STORY LITERALLY DOESN'T FRICKING MATTER OK? IT'S LITERAL PERFECTION ON EVERY LEVEL AND THAT'S THAT!
This wouldn't be an issue if the game didn't shove story in your face constantly. You can't have it both ways. If the story is terrible, you need to do a better job of keeping it out of my face.
>b-but you can le skip it
No, that's not a good enough excuse, especially when the entire tutorial is based around shoving the plot in your face, and then stripping you of your freedom so you can repeat the same boring tutorial as BOTW.
You can completely ignore the story after the tutorial
>after the tutorial
Way too late by then.
and then not interact with the only content the game has? the piss poor excuse for dungeons?
Nobody makes their game expecting that people won't like some random element of it, they do their best.
For me it's this
>See these cool characters and shit?
>Well it all happened in the past, you can't interact with it
Yes, no game is very deep, but I cry like a b***h anyway when a partner leaves cuz they were with me the whole game. BotW/TotK sucks at that
The only redeemable boomer.
I only found one memory, and I've finished all the secret stone stuff. I was never really led in the right direction. Kind of annoyed I've done all this stuff and haven't sniffed the Master Sword.
>Zelda 1
>Direct sequel
>Ambiguous prequel
>Direct prequel
>Direct sequel
>Direct sequel
>Alternate-timeline sequel
>Reboot
>Reboot
>Reboot
What is the game plan here? Why have they started rebooting every fricking game? It's not hard to NOT directly contradict the previous fricking game.
I saw your thread on /vg/
How to make Zelda great again:
>Use OOT link character design as the standard
>Write the entire story in Old English
>Take out all magiteck bullshit and Motorized vehicles.
>Bring back Dekus
>Major plot point would be turning koroks back to kokir (symbolic -> soulless into soulful)
>at least 6 dungeons that have different colors associated with them
>Fire anyone developing the game that shows even a faint hint of LGBT sympathy because they will try to take over the game and turn it into their own weird furry porn thing.
>Return back to the original formula, no more weapon breaking bullshit that makes you not give a shit about the weapons you collect.
>Delete the BOTW map and start over and make it much smaller and manageable.
>Focus on Beauty and Christian morals above all else.
Those are the basics which can never happen because Nintendo as a whole is far too mentally ill to make it happen.
Achieving anything close to this is legitimately impossible for Nintendo.
Mostly right but for the implication that magitech is inherently bad (it's not, it can be based, it's just not something Zelda should've ever focused on, the spinner should've been the absolute furthest extent of it)