>Legends: Arceus has been out for months. >Still can't play with Hisui mons on Showdown

>Legends: Arceus has been out for months
>Still can't play with Hisui mons on Showdown
Why? What's the point of having a good battle system to bypass all the bullshit Pokemon games throw at you if you can't even use it to its fullest?
>[POKEMON]-Hisui does not exist in Gen 8.
Neither does Weedle you fricking moron, that's why I'm playing on National Dex AG. There was an entire tier just for a fricking Kanto remake to include Melmetal, but somehow it's too inconvenient to add several new alternate forms of existing Pokemon to a meta that was literally made to bypass the lack of a fricking national dex for future games. Stupid fricks.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No one knows how they should function in the traditional battle engine, you moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're unsure of how these Pokemon will function in the standard battle system in terms of movepools and the like, even if we DO have their base stats and abilities.

      I hate Smogon, but the reason is self evident if you played PLA which I guess you haven't since you're b***hing about it not being on Smogon.

      >base stats and abilities are already in the data
      >allowed to have mega evolutions, z-moves, and dynamax in the same fricking battle, despite them never existing in the same game at once
      >"b-but they don't know how they work uuuu we just don't know what their stats are ooooo mr bulbaphile said that the stats are calculated slightly differently you're not allowed to have fun"

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We still don't know their full movepools in a traditional game.
        They'd be severely handicapped (or in some cases severely overpowered) as a result when that's not reflective of how they'll actually play in Scarlet and Violet.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What part of "anything goes" do you not understand

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What part of "different stats and movepool" you dont understand?
            Garchomp in PLA reaches more than 480 attack when in the other games has always been 394 at level 100.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So divide 394/480 and then apply the results to the rest of the stats by multiplying instead of being a whiny no-fun homosexual.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Garchomp in PLA reaches more than 480 attack
              This is just applied on their Alpha forms, isn't it?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Alphas just have higher starting EL's. They aren't inherently stronger.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It’s more of an issue of it being a lot of work that might just have to be redone pretty soon anyways. Pretty much all of the comprehensive rom hacks made the same call. You’re just gonna have to wait

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What? The reason they aren’t in showdown is because they don’t have abilities yet. Once SV is datamined their abilities will be known. Why can’t you just be patient ?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the abilities were datamined from PLA

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No they weren’t.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              They were, but they are likely incomplete. You could have googled this instead of doubling down

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes they were.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I thought you could see them in Home

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Even Smogon knows about their abilities
              You're such a moron

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        they can change lad

        tapu bulu had grassy slide in the datamine

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We don't know their movepools moron, and you can't just assume the datamined abilities aren't placeholders. If you weren't underage you'd remember Shadow Tag Chandelure.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I guarantee you that Showdown would have put Hisui mons in if their precious CHARIZARD was in Legends.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're unsure of how these Pokemon will function in the standard battle system in terms of movepools and the like, even if we DO have their base stats and abilities.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate Smogon, but the reason is self evident if you played PLA which I guess you haven't since you're b***hing about it not being on Smogon.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Idiot

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's only because what their movepools are like outside of Legends Arceus are currently unknown and the fact that they don't have any known abilities outside of datamining.

    And with datamining you have to consider that things are always subject to changes like how Tapu Koko was supposed to be able to learn Play Rough and how Tyrantrum originally didn't have the same move in the same datamine.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How has Showdown not been killed by Nintendo yet?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because Showdown is unironically the reason why Competitive Pokemon is even alive

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The funny thing about this thread is that fighting games always have a really strong character or two which get nerfed in a patch. The Poketards itt could apply that very same logic to their fanfic meta but they just sort of forgot that CAP existed for some reason.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you can use them in private games i guess

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, we don't really have a moveset for them other than the PLA moveset, some if which don't exist in the regular games.

    I'm fine waiting instead of establishing them in the meta with headcanon moves that will have to be changed anyway.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I only expect Game Freak is gonna add them along with PLA's new moves. Lake trio and Genies urgently need their signature moves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I only expect Game Freak is gonna add-
      You people expected Gamefreak to add a Battle Frontier to ORAS, a third installment to XY, an Eclipse instead of USUM, and every Pokemon to SWSH. Learn your fricking lesson already.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Well, you get a point

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