Less than 24 hours remain before all hell breaks loose

Place your bets people. Who’s side are you on?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Chadtoshi obviously

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the real winners are us who will watch as the fire burns from a safe distance

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Does it matter? The entire battle has been a huge flop. It was all bark and no bite. It failed to deliver on every level.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Leon being the clear endgame for Ash killed any suspense and excitement. I'm more excited about the reason why Cynthia wants to retire than the actual battle.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a Cynthiafag, but Ash is obviously going to win this, the plot requires it.
    Guess it's the price to pay for being literally the strongest NPC so far in the games.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I’m literally a 30 year old boomer and I can vividly remember battling her and getting all my Pokémon wiped one by one when she had her Garchomp out
      She may not be this tournament’s champion, but she is my champion
      Thank you Cythina for making Gen 4 the peak of the series

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        39 next week,, she didn't wipe me, but she WAS the first time a champion battle wasn't a two-shot as even though I hit her hard, she retaliated hard.
        Hearing she actually had flawless IV'mons also implied not only was she strong, she was an expert breeder on top.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You must be really shit if you found cynthia hard, I played through gen 4 when i was still a dumb kid focusing on leveling my starter and box legendary only and i still won pretty easily

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Cynthia is the hardest champion in the games, thats fact

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Just use Avalnche, you nerds.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >fan poll as proof
            Uh huh

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Amen. I'm sorry they took away your Lucario and your awesome new moveset. Cynthia, you're the best, even if you don't win this tournament.

        But please, please don't retire. I can't take losing another Celestican this year.

        (I'm not really upset because hey, we all beat her eventually lmao)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        39 next week,, she didn't wipe me, but she WAS the first time a champion battle wasn't a two-shot as even though I hit her hard, she retaliated hard.
        Hearing she actually had flawless IV'mons also implied not only was she strong, she was an expert breeder on top.

        >25
        >obliterated her with no issues at like 9-10 years old when ti came out
        How are you all so bad? I mean at like 7 I was struggling to beat Wallace in Emerald.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Platinum (baby mode) or Diamond Pearl? (godlike difficulty spike)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Cynthia fans are actually horrible at Pokemon

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    we already know Cynthia loses lmao

    the only question is - how many Lucario power-ups before it can beat Base Chomp?

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    VOTE
    https://strawpoll.com/polls/PbZqoeL0NnN
    https://strawpoll.com/polls/PbZqoeL0NnN
    https://strawpoll.com/polls/PbZqoeL0NnN

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The cheater will win.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    She can't use her cheater gimmick, so Iris won

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >psychically linking herself to her dwagons to maximise their power unnaturally
      >not a fucking gimmick
      Cheaters get what they fucking deserve, competition rules only allowed bangle gimmicks, not psychic ones. Hell, she even proved it was a gimmick, wasting it on Ash's Dragonite, then being unable to use it on her own on the next turn.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        cope

        being a good trainer and building a rapport with your mons is not a gimmick, it's just good fundamentals (something gimmickthia cucks know nothing about)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          cope, irisTRASH
          the snowflake power-up still lost

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >irisTRASH
            Yeah a complete shitter like Iris still 2-3'd Cynthia lmao.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      cope

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Iris won
      Shichuda lost

      [...]
      being a good trainer and building a rapport with your mons is not a gimmick, it's just good fundamentals (something gimmickthia cucks know nothing about)

      Shichuda has to rely on a gimmick from another region lol
      Iris battles with just sheer will and tenacity

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    An Eevee Singularity will stop the match and swallow Ash and his Pikachu, ending the anime forever.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I fucking wish, the Masters 8 has been so disappointing.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Iris won
    Shichuda lost

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Shichuda has to rely on a gimmick from another region lol
    Iris battles with just sheer will and tenacity

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    At what time the episode airs? Are there places that livestream it?

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Could you imagine if Ash jobbed to Cynthia?

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >pic literally shows Ash facing invincible Cynthia
    Ash wins as he is struggling and determined to overcome the challenges; and finally triumph against formidable adversaries.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    When I read this thread I see none of you actually watched the show.
    Iris never showed any Champion ambitions unlike AJ, Giselle, Casey, Alain, Ritchie, Paul, etc. And that was in Gen5!!! Alain was battling legit legendaries, Tobias was using actual legendaries, Ash and others were going through GymBadge quest hells in multiple regions to gain the EXP. Giselle at least went to a trainer school.
    Iris being Champion is only cause she's one in the games, the anime did an arceusawful job at portraying her progression, it feels unearned as heck if you watch the show.
    Realistically, Ash should have already lost with 3-6 at best but the writers really don't give a fuck about the established powerlevel balance anymore. You can see how OLM is tired of drawing this crap by this point.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Established power level balance
      Like 20 fucking years ago Krabby swept a team in his very first battle ever and evolved after KOing a single Pokemon and you guys are like "these power levels make no sense!"

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Also awful artstyle. Gimme the Kalos artstyle.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >gimme the crappy artstyle

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm on the side that recognizes how caring about battles in the Pokemon anime is retarded and doesn't give a fuck about who wins. The Pokemon anime is good only for its world building. The battles make no sense and adhere to no logic or consistency whatsoever.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ash. Even though Cynthia is better, I despise coomerfags and want to see them btfo'd.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It does not matter who is strongest.
    It does not matter who has the better team.
    It does not matter who is more experienced.
    It does not matter who should logically win, this is an anime, the winner will be the one that better serves the plot. Literally nothing else matters. None of your nonstop power want threads are relevant. Ash will win because the series needs him to face Leon at least once. Facing off against the champion of the newest game is good for marketing, it's inevitable. Ashnhas to battle Leon, and because of seeding that means he has to beat Cynthia. Nothing else matters, it doesn't matter if Cynthia brought 6 legends and Ash just had a Paras, he would win. It's like you people forgot you're watching a fucking children's show.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Facing off against the champion of the newest game is good for marketing, it's inevitable

      While I agree with you overall that Ash will win because it serves the plot. The quoted statement doesn't follow. Ash rarely faces the champion of a given region. He didn't face Cynthia in gen4. He's always lost in the tournaments leading up to being allowed to face the Elite4 in pretty much every region.

      In this season, however, it's just set up for Ash to fight Leon. But him facing the champion like this is out of the ordinary.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You say that but considering this show seems to build up something only for them to say “LOL GOTCHA” at the last minute

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Depends what you think of as the last minute.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Every character except Alain who introduced due in the Pokémon league to beat Ash.
          >Ritchie
          >Harrison
          >Tyson
          >Tobias the ultimate example
          >Cameron
          There’s also seem to be times where it felt like they had a plan for something but scrapped it for one reason or another. Like Ritchie and Casey just outright disappearing in Johto without any closure

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ash, so he's one step closer to being retired as a character.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I want Cynthia to win, but it just doesn't make sense from any storyline/plot standpoint. Of course Ash is going to win because they want to have the finale of the season be with the Champion from Galar. They wouldn't hype this up for Ash to lose to Cynthia here and have her face Leon off screen.

    The ONLY merit I can see an argument favouring Cynthia winning is:
    >Ash would be too strong of a trainer to start out as a "noob" in a new region

    If ash beats Cynthia (and even if he loses to Leon), he would be considered a top 3 trainer in the whole world. This doesn't make sense considering that he will be seen losing to scrubs at the beginning of next season. At least if he loses to Cynthia they can go with the whole "he still has things to learn!" narrative.

    But I doubt it. Ash will win and I don't think we'll see Cynthia for a while. Which is unfortunate because I like her.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >If ash beats Cynthia (and even if he loses to Leon), he would be considered a top 3 trainer in the whole world
      The rest of your post is sound but this is stupid. He's already what, top 5 or 4 in the world? As if being top 3 would make it make less sense for a power reset. We're already past the point of sense.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >As if being top 3 would make it make less sense for a power reset. We're already past the point of sense.

        That's fair, and I did consider that. It would just highlight the powergap that Ash has to the "real champions" and "real strong trainers" by losing to Cynthia. It would go along with the headcannon many have of her and Leon being the strongest so it would make it seem like they are on a level well above even other champions. So Ash could be 5th strongest, but jumping up to the next tier would require a major effort.

        But yes, I understand that him beating Steven already throws any power balance/continuity out of the water.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The boy('s plot armour and shitty writing in his favour).
    Wish I could support him out of genuine love for the character but that ship sailed quite some time ago. I'm mostly just here for the schadenfreude be it from ashfags or cynthiaslaves (or even better, both).

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