How are we coping Limbusbros?
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How are we coping Limbusbros?
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Ive got my tickets, dont care
Oh god /QA/ is here aren’t they
>/qa/
What the hell is /qa/?
Why does everyone freak out over a board with 2 threads whenever they see posts they don't like?
>Why does everyone freak out over a board with 2 threads
lol, lmao
newest fag on this website
>he never saw /qa/
You have to be 18 to post on here
Currently testing to see what happens if you complete a daily mission of a varying difficulty while not having the daily bonus to see if you still get invididual lunacy. Will report back
ATTENTION Ganker LIMBUSHEADS
This is what I got after running the easiest exp dungeon WITHOUT a daily bonus after running the hardest one 2x and the middle difficulty one 1x.
So I think you should be running one of EACH difficulty for both thread and exp if you want to max out on lunacy gains of 200 a day.
lunacy is just first time clear reward. Not daily reward.
True I have no clue, I'll test it again in a few hours to see. Wouldn't the rewards plausibly refresh tomorrow then? We'd have to see if it stops NEXT week right?
Even so each individual difficulty level right now gives 40 lunacy so no anon should spam the hardest I think and should spread out even if he already has a full team of 30's
Sadly already did my so kinda fuck myself on either Lunacy (if it isn't a one time EVER clear) or raw Energy which suddenly became the most valuable resource in the whole fucking game in like 4 hours.
I know that doing the hardest mission twice doesn't give you lunacy the second time.
I will actually have to wait until tomorrow to see if you get 40 lunacy from the same tier of difficulty THEN another week to see if it applies again to the exact exact same mission.
If it's 40 x 5 different missions x 7 days a week. Then that'd be 1400 lunacy a season potentially assuming lunacy rewards don't refresh by week and it's literally just the first time clear for every possible mission they set up for the entire season.
Are we even sure they are daily and not first time EVER rewards? They could have accidently copypasta the ex mission reward by mistake for all we know.
Things are fine for me. Won't need to do EXP Luxcavation at all so I only need to focus on MDs and Thread Luxcavation, and neither of those are too bad.
I'm gonna uninstall probably, the daily grind is too long for me now
Just woke up, why are people so mad? Did director fuck up the game?
Hodlfags took a massive L and they are no longer vibing with the game
fucked up the xp dungeon and anons are acting like the sky is falling as if this wont get hotfixed
Replacing MD with something that isn't MD for a daily grind is a good idea
They executed on that idea about as poorly as possible, the EXP rewards are ass and the whole set takes exactly as much energy as you could possibly regenerate in a single day
Mirror Dungeon before: 3 BP XP, 5 Silver XPs, 5 Gold XPs
Now: Mirror Dungeon gives 7 BP, XP Luxcavation costs 40 Enkephalin, enemies resist every attack besides the damage type it states they're weak to, takes a while, has high damage level 30 enemies, and gives 1 Gold XP and 5 Silver XPs per attempt
EXP lux sucks gigadick and has way worse rewards than what MDs gave before
Thread lux also doesn't give much but it's a source of thread I guess
Also the new shit is way too expensive. 30-40 enk EACH despite not being anywhere near as long as a dungeon
>Thread lux also doesn't give much
What's the reward for the thread dungeons?
6
about 6 thread
6 thread lv 30 with bonus
3 thread lv 30 without bonus
What bonus??
daily 3 time bonus
>How are we coping Limbusbros?
by taking a dive in my massive pile of loot from all the bp rewards
not pictured is my 126 nominable shard crates
>people think holdchads lose
>they don't realise the REAL hold only begins
We're holding for your sins (decaxcavation tickets)
Sooo... How do we feel about these //REWARDS//?
Works on my machine bro...
Anyone know how KR or JP are taking this new update?
Damn. I thought that was a boy.
gay ass
but i'm not gay?
>See booba and ass
>Think about boys
You are now
You wish, gayboy
breeding
It is.
That is the thing, most gacha games give you more than enough energy, hell too fucking much depending on the game. I dare you to drain all of your energy on Disgaea RPG, won't see you til tomorrow at the very least as it become a full time job. A gacha game literally design around the dailies exclusively and nothing else is unheard of for me personally.
I need someone to tell me if the discard bug/feature still works
Tested it just now on a MD ant it worked.
Tested it a while ago on a thread dungeon and it didn't work for some reason, but maybe I just didn't test it enough.
Can't they just make excavations use modules and remove the daily limit?
I'm tired of every gacha having a ton of daily limited content, the one free md was enough, no need to go overboard with six daily dungeons on top
I agree, I actually like how chill the dailies were. Was one of the biggest praises I could give the game in terms of gameplay. Now it feel like bloat of other gacha games but without ANY of the balancing.
Alright, my second go in the mirror dungeon was a lot more fun. Probably because I didn't get the fucking flower. Still don't know which boxes I should take when I clear them, though.
>30 - 40 enk for the excavations
>only have 13 boxes so far
>my daily max is 105
Jesus fuck, PRUDENCE DIRECTOR-SAN, PRUDENCE.
>post YFW you didn't fall for the holdSCAM
I've just been playing MD whenever I felt like it, because it was fun
Imagine not playing a game for fun
Out of all the MD floor 3 bosses to come across, the three dogs and their boss are the worst. This was impossible to predict and I have nothing but pierce and blunt with a tiny few slash.
>3-6 still not nerfed
this game will be dead in one month
yeah you whined about it in the last thread too. get filtered fag
enjoy your dead game
I will
I'm going to say it. The rewards for both daily dungeons are fine.
It's the fucking cost that is absurd. It should cost at max 20 energy and at best 12.
I can understand story missions using a higher value of energy, as they are mostly a one time only. But daily shit is daily for a reason, you are supposed to waste as like time possible on them and go on grinding some other things in the game.
No wonder japan and korea are losing the battle in gachas with the chinks. Chink gacha games usually let you "play" their gacha games.
This update was one step forward, two steps back. The update to mirror dungeons made so adquiring the battle pass an atractive deal and the daily activities are made so you don't actual have the chance to play the game besides doing daily activities. Utter retardation.
Pic related. You can get more than one golden ticket if you are lucky, I guess.
>You can get more than one golden ticket if you are lucky,
the pic the anon posted had an extra 5 silver tickets, and 1 gold ticket = 5 silver tickets in terms of EXP.
it'll take 120 enkephalin to get 6 gold tickets in a day when it used to take 60 enkephalin to get the same from the MD, as well as a bunch of other shit
If they change the cost to 12 (hard mode) it should be balanced. The cost is the insulting part, not the rewards.
no, the rewards are ridiculous too. Even if they're cheap to enter, new players who want to level up for chapter 3 will have to endlessly toil the same battle over and over again and will likely just lose interest on the game. At least the mirror dungeons have some interactivity in the routes you take and EGO gifts you pick
That's a fair assessment. Newfags are fucked.
given it take a literal full day of energy to min-max on dailies by default because you have to do chapter 1 to unlock most of the stuff your account is bricked out of the gate. Anyone who already pass that better had done chapter 3 in advance or keeping an eye on their level as they are stuck in a standstill until they get energy out of thin air somehow. The game literally discourse you from playing the story now. Losing out on an ex mission or hell even quitting and taking the -1 energy penalty is actually extremely painful now. You have to play flawlessly somehow skipping pass chapter 1 to actually enjoy the game now.
paying DOUBLE the enkephalin for LESS reward, wowza. im truly humbled
Anon, the previous Mirror dungeons gave you TEN golden tickets with the bonus, and FIVE otherwise. And they were achievable consistently and without having to already require high level sinners due to the way MDs work. And you only get gold tickets form exp luxcavations from the lvl 30 one, which you can unlock by beating the notoriously difficult chapter 3. And pray tell, for what purpose would someone grind out EXP in this game, if not for that?
The rewards for EXP luxcavation aren't just bad; they are insulting.
I disagree, both the cost and rewards are pretty abysmal.
Mirrors cost 60 enk for 10 golds and silvers with bonus, and 5 without. Level didn't matter for them so you could actually use them to grind exp.
Hard EXP lux costs 40 enk for 1, MAYBE 2 golds and a handful of silver, while also being scaled for level 30 IDs.
Getting an ID to 20 costs 7 golds. Getting an ID from 20 to 30 costs 30 fucking golds. This shit is borderline useless.
I'm starting to wonder if Project Moon might be some of the stupidest fuckers alive and Ruina was only good because of how long it was in early access and how involved the fans were in balance.
They do seem kinda stupid seeing how often and how badly they fuck up
If you mean
Unless I'm retarded, it only mentions exp luxs
The second +1 gold ticket at the end is actually because all of your characters are level 30 in your main party/supports
If half of those characters weren't level 30 the EXP tickets after the Lunacy would be little more than a single silver
>grindfags now feel compelled to continue to play shit ass game with horrible updates
>holdfags can just drop it right now without the weight of having wasted a shitton of time doing 1000 dungeon runs
does the easy (35) thread lux give the 40 lunacy like the hard one did?
Yeah. All the difficulties in both the thread and exp lux dungeons give 40 lunacy.
How many gold tickets do you guys have?
like 130 something
only 200
wish I had grinded more
been playing casually so not much. Blew them getting the base cast up.
729. I'm good for the rest of this season, and possibly the next 1 or 2
at what level are you running those lvl30 fights? is lvl20 enough?
Holdfags are literally forced to spend money on the Limbus pass if they want any value from their modules
I worked 12 hours Today and couldn't play LC
What did I miss?
terrible update
I'm sorry you didn't get to play lobcorp, anon.
Did you at least manage to play limbus?
>If you forfeit the MD before beating the last boss you still get almost all the rewards bar 1 BP point
Director is this intentional?
rewards are based on progress
Kind of weird that I still get almost all BP without finishing the final boss.
The 26 lunacy enkh refill is a pretty good deal now if you actually want to use a bit of time to play the game, especially if you're at a high manager level.
just started playing
what happened?
>just started playing
Uh oh.
new players are basically going to need to waste days to grind exp for levels just so they can do the story
I thought this ego was kinda lame at first but now it looks cool
Game is gonna EoS in 2 weeks
I just wanted more Outis....
You'll be able to hire her in LC2
we'll never see her and Faust fight over Dante's clock cock bro...
What are grindfags? People who kept running MDs for tickets?
How in hell did you managed to do all those runs without going insane out of boredom
by having it on the side while doing other things? it's not that hard
I didn't say hard, i said boring, which is way worse
and just having it on the side while doing other more engaging things isn't boring. I was implying that multitasking isn't hard
>How in hell did you managed to do all those runs without going insane out of boredom
I am clearly different than you in terms of composition
Least autistic faustfag
>HODLfags and LAZYfags got fucked
serves you guys right for constantly shitting on us grinders
I'M NOT RUNNING BLEED DON'T GIVE ME THE PUSSYPIUM
AAAAAAAAAAAA
you are now
Thank god I stopped leveling at 15/20 on the 0 identities. I dunno how bad I'd feel if I actually took old MDs for granted and maxxed IDs that I'd replace eventually anyways.
Feels p good looking at high 3-digit gold tickets in my inventory ngl, knowing that they represent hundreds of hours worth of enkh and grinding in the new system and are basically unreachable for hodlfags or new players. Like Smaug admiring his hoard.
Meh everyone worth a shit is now at at least 20, and I’ve got nearly 100 gold and tones of the others. It’s just time to wait and see what PM does
>nearly 100
holy cope he can't even bear to state the actual number!
I’m at work
its so over bros... how the fuck is this worth it
I look forward to the apology mail gifts and inevitable "please don't threaten to bomb us you crazy chinks" message.
Doesn't chinks love to grind even more than koreans?
Doubt that, I'll admit I don't know much about Chinese players but Korean MMOs are the only thing I had ever seen where going fucking backwards on progress is seen as acceptable. You PAY to have your item be downgraded and expected to simply get back to where you were and try again
I don't really play gacha or mmo so not sure how Koreans behave. Most review bombs I've seen online were from thin skinned chink manchildren sperging out over some minor shit.
They were also the ones who chimped out the most over the original Ruina ending iirc, though granted it was deserved.
thought I'd be able to get away with just spamming the lowest lux dungeons for the bp
these enk values clearly aren't weighted properly
Umm sweetie, they don't want you to farm BOTH to the limit!
I'm getting tired of telling you to have a nice day, anon.
how about we stop doing this
please mirror dungeon... no more goysloppium...
>he goes for ? events
I have never gotten the flower a single time
How many players are going to quit over this, even if they do fix the cost and rewards later?
some may quit but honestly I don't think it's that fatal, they'll fix this soon enough. Most people playing are playing because they want to see the story and characters more, they'll return when new story content drops
Anybody settled in is fineish and the thread rewards are unironically fine imo. The exp is a fucking shitheap though and taking it away from MD is a bad design choice because it fucks over newfags since MD helps since there's no level prerequiste for your jobber sinners
I think new players are unironically screwed though, they need to buff the exp ticket amounts especially if what that guy said about kromer-boss locking the lv30 dungeon is true.
This was okay in Ruina because back then it was an early access, they could get away with making mistakes and everyone went into it expecting such things.
It doesn't work with a live-service gacha like Limbus. At all. They really need to fucking playtest this shit themselves or have a dedicated group of testers, because under what circumstance would they think this is a good idea? It seems to be a universally disliked update.
There's basically no reason to grind for anything besides BP atm unless you're a newfag going through the story so anybody who's already cleared probably will ride it out. Meanwhile MD got a huge buff so it'll placate a lot of people.
I fully expect another Deca for director's colossal fuck up this time however.
Should the enk values be lowered or should everything just cost modules?
Modules is just better so you can play at your own pace rather than be restricted with stamina regen
Honestly it should just cost modules, and I haven’t really been grinding them either(75)
Modules pretty fucking please, I hate having to check energy to see if I can do something and then decide if I have the time or bother for it at that moment
Modules were such a great idea
>went from bp 40 to bp 52
Battlepass bros our gains are amazing today
Do you think this EXP dungeon problem was caused by director sparing monzo out of kindness?
I think PM just doesn't understand how gacha games work. I get the feeling they haven't really done a deep dive at their competition to get a good feel of how things are properly balanced to create a routine that's both easy, fast, and addictive.
PM tried to make it an actual game which made it have a lot of good things that people praise it for but when they just try to ape generic gacha things like this it ends up badly.
Their stated reason for MD's was to reduce grind right? This is unironically way grindier than just running a MD a day. It should just be doing a EXP luxcavation and a thread luxcavation once a day and you're DONE. Then you can make a module or something then fuck off
That much is clear from the GUI alone. They did zero research on how a gacha game should be and now they are struggling with basic bitch concepts that seemingly everybody else know better than the devs themselves.
>beat any stage mission now works with MD
t-thanks director...
wardrobe malfunction is kino
>tfw using skill 3 without charges
>barely any tomboy janny art
I already fapped to Ishmael today, please stop.
holy sex
holy hell that is hot. Artist?
The storm came back when I was 45 minutes into my strategy: getting every newly hired nugget into You Must Be Happy so they either can move away from Binah's spikes or at least tank the hit.
Thankfully, no lightning ever came near my place.
I don't fear what the next day gimmick can be. Most of my giganuggets survived. I have enough nuggets to work on every department.
I'm ready.
I will face the fear.
Congratulations manager
welcome to the club king
Day 50 is pure kino.
Prepare yourself.
Damn, you were right.
El Director, I kneel.
Also the translation team was called the Kool Kids Klub and now I'm sure it was comprised of fuckers lurking these threads jej
Well, there's not much to say right now, so I'll post some random screenshots.
This one's about some cl*rks that got bugged and are now perpetually attacking the spot where Binah died last day.
Here's one of the giganuggets that survived from the start until the end.
>Radical grand senior
>that gear
The title fits
Honestly, this seems like a massive kneejerk from PM: The game's about a month old, and they panicked when they saw people with full level 30 rosters breezing through the content and grinding and finishing BP in a fraction of the alotted time. They underestimated the sweatiness of their own fanbase, and I think they really aren't planning on bringing the level curve that quickly, maybe not even opening cap to 40 until chapter 6-8 or so.
But then again, it was very forgiving to get to endgame before, now it's just more of a return to the mean of gacha grindiness. Sucks to be you if you've missed the boat, though.
even before the patch grinding was just anguishing because I just wanted to get to the next part of the story. I don't want to grind out levels I just want to see what happens next. I don't care about identities or whatever I wanna know if dante will ever get to motorclock Faust's titties
Sorry, but that's reserved for Ish only
On the story side we're hopelessly fucked anyway because it's a gacha
The thumbnail on my phone made it look like she had a hand holding a gun back there have a bump for making me laugh.
I've been out of the loop since I finished the game, can someone tell me what are the rewards for the new things and what is worth doing?
Thread Luxcavation is alright.
Mirror Dungeons are very alright, great even.
Experience Luxcavation is trash.
That's all.
Such hodlcope. Thread is what needs buffing. Even one shitty luxcav gives you usable xp tickets. You currently can't even do anything with the amount of thread you get per day. A level 15-20 character is still usable but a character missing their 3rd skill which requires uptie3 is pure trash. But of course you wouldn't know because you never played the game.
You get enough thread to fully uptie one 000 guy from daily bonuses alone every 6 days. That's fine brochacho.
it takes way too much enkephalin though
that what we basically are bitching about, technically nothing is worth doing. The balance is god awful but gotta get the season pass points and spend your energy on something. The update actively made the game worst.
nothing will ever be good enough for you whinefags/waitfags
go have a nice day
I actually loved the game the way it was before. That is literally the issue, the update was a downgrade. Play the update before you treat others like they are being dumb. Odds are you will agree.
> Play the update before you treat others like they are being dumb
did you? go fuck yourself
what does that image even prove? If you lack the energy to even play then that is literally the fucking issue people are having you fucking retard.
How many emails do you think PM is getting daily now that their game is live-service? Do you think their mailbox capacity can handle it?
If it’s a bog standard Gmail account those can hold millions of emails
I expect a full refund AND a monzo naked dogeza as apology
I'm fuckin drowning in shards here thanks director
I'm going to sleep. When I wake up I want the new dailies fixed and my x5 apology decaextractions.
>fight bird bros again so my new hires get the gift
>win easily
>game is running like shit afterwards
>literal 2 fps
>have an entire energy bar to fill
fucking kill me
>one of my seasonal is to use Ryushu's 4th match flame
>I don't even have it
DIRECTOR WHY
you get it in bp level 60
it a reward from the pass
>lvl 30 enemies and abnos are actually a threat with increased values from level
>can't Unga bunga
Director.....
My auto win rate...
Bro just borrow the lvl 30 W Don from your friend list?
stop doomposting gays, the game still has the best story in a gacha
Shut the fuck up, don't tell ME what I can and cannot post about
stop being a gay, complaining is the only way they'll change it
Not even true, gfl has a better story
Hey fellas, are you sure we’re not a general?
Because we’re at 18 threads a day
I will drink your marrow
The /vg/ thread is the fastest thread on the board outspeeding genshin.
Cultural phenomenon.
newfag here
why do people keep referring to project moon's games as a cultural phenomenon?
You had to be there.
fuck off
Because the janny with a hateboner for PM stuff excused Smash threads as it's a "cultural phenomenon"
And then PM took over on April Fool's with a silly shitpost event
>He doesn't know
It’s a joke, the game series is much more popular than people anticipated and a mid allowed it(lob/ ruina) to stay on Ganker because of thst
People are tend to forget their history.
Thanks, was looking for that log.
What a gay
>fastest threads on /vg/ AND Ganker
And longest thread is still on /i/.
Get fuckin cultural phenomenoned.
Reminder that gay got banned and as a funny April Fools joke put Abnos all over Ganker just out of spite.
BongBong died for our sins.
I was actually the 11th to be blessed during that. If I was the 12th I would had said no just to see what would happen. Beside only pussies use the skull. I want the Paradise Lost weapon damn it! Nevertheless that BongBong was a better person than I,
An actual sinner, huh?
Is there a single jannie (besides W corp train jannies) that isn't a cuck.
you mother fuckers put generals to shame and have more activity than all of /vg/ (a general board). I will take it over pizza towner shilling back to back with 2 posters per thread
It really needs to slow down to just news/updates
Worse yet is you know people won't resist making a LC/LoR thread about LCB when they see one
cultural phenomenon.
Cultural phenomenon
Also I know a janny is watching these threads because random shitposts are sometimes deleted so I thank them for having mercy on us and they are DEFINITELY aware of the amount of PM threads
>they're aware amount of the amount of PM thread
Anon... who do you thinks making them?
After the day our lord and savior white night graced every board
Even if it were, why do you care?
I don’t, I was trying to make a joke about Thread Luxcavation but it looks like it flopped.
Oh, I see. That was too high iq for me
I should have just put the phrase ‘after the update’ or something in the joke, for slightly better delivery
>literal holocaust thread up on the front page for 357 posts
>idol thread is literally just about age of consent
>OH NO YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A GRINDY, EPISODIC VIDEO GAME THAT'S GETTING WEEKLY UPDATES
Go fuck yourself.
what holocaust thread
The one about VIDEO GAMES.
I got your joke anon, sorry there's so many autists.
Fuck you, you dumb sexy hagposter
outis breeding
I'm only seeing 12 threads a day, but I guess it's because I'm a casual...
I'm still at 3-18 and my highest level units are 26 and 23, everyone else is exactly 20. I'm so fucked with the new exp system.
Your joke was literally too good for the thread anon.
Carlos!
Do mass attacks on ligmus destroy a secondary target's dice?
No, they just do damage.
No, they're completely useless as they do nothing but waste that attack
only if they get staggered
it's samidaover
Can you gachafags move to /vg/ where you belong?
can you suck my dick and balls?
>was really looking forward to farming threads to upthread my EGOs
>don't even have enough enk to clear the daily bonuses
I'm not seeing an Enk cost on Thread battles, only on the EXP fights... Am I missing something?
HELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EVERYNYAN (or should i say every CHAN) How you guys doing? We bussin swag cgucchi after all those mirror dungeons?
>Thread dungeon suggests gloom sin
>have two sinner ID's that have it, nothing else does
What in the fuck game what am I missing here
Ignore it, did it with my normal team without issues. It is merely a suggestion.
The threads been pretty good, a lad once try to post and link to a new thread /vg/ style and got chewed out by everyone all at once because of it. Limbus been pretty good about making sure there is only a single thread at the time and ignore retards who post dupes or too early.
I like the Ganker threads because at least there's a pretense of telling people generating fucking futa diaper fanfiction of the sinners to fuck off unlike /vg/ and limiting the "girl!" posting to at least 50% the level of the average fucking /vg/ gacha thread
Should I even bother upthreading and leveling anyone else? I can already clear everything easily with my LVL 30s.
Boy, all my low attack guys sure are feeling the pain from only being level 22-25 in this level 30 EXP dungeon. I hope they put in a way to get EXP soon.
>Get 80 lunacy from first clears
>Can spend 23-46 to get enkephalin back
>Do the rest of the daily bonuses with a net gain of lunacy
I don't see a huge problem with the energy cost or the thread reward right now. Those XP Ticket rewards though... are egregiously bad.
Also the people saying newbies are completely fucked... silver tickets are good enough to get your guys to lvl 20; Factor in free BP tickets and gettting gud you can take out Kromer easily.
>but it says level 30 on the dungeon
That warning is for brainlets who unga.
There's no way the lunacy is going to be daily. For sure a first time clear bonus.
hmm maybe.
Even still there's the weekly lunacy. 1500 in two weeks is enough for a 10 roll, 7 refills, and 250-something left over.
I think this update was to stiffle excessive grinding and the holders are just coping instead of trying to see the bigger picture.
...Those exp rewards are bad still, I expect that to be fixed w/ compensation soon.
>250
I meant 150
R071636519
Don't know what other supports I should swap in and out to help out now that EXP/Thread dungeons exist and ask for a full level 30 party
Thanks for the reminder that I still needed to add EGO to my support units
I'm adding you, Anon
please save me
Don’t fall for obvious bait and I’ll post Ishmael half-naked.
Did I need to clear Lobotomy Corp 100% before starting Ruina? I thought that I would be good to go but did the Angela + Binah rebellion/betrayal get revealed in the epilogue?
Also, I've only just started Ruina (Still just an Urban Legend) but from what I understand it is built on top of the remnants of Lobotomy Corporation which was destroyed when the seed of light germinated or whatever. but I thought I remembered seeing or hearing a reference to a library during Lobotomy Corporation suggesting that it already existed. Possibly during the white ordeals? Does this get answered in Ruina later on or did I miss something important in Lobotomy Corp?
Yes, the lob corp 100% leads directly into the sequel and the first 4 realizations of ruina directly reference it.
It's fine to start Ruina even with 0 knowledge of lobocorp since it all gets explaine anyway, but yes you should have done the 100%
yeah that get spoiled super early, but its unironically only one facet of the game and you should still play it
The ordeals of white IIRC are manifested from ayin's mind so, no one knows whats up with that for sure
Honestly no though you will be spoiled on the ending of Lobotomy just by playing Ruina. Lobotomy doesn't really give info that Ruina doesn't give though.
>Did I need to clear Lobotomy Corp 100%
Yes. If you've finished day 50 you can just clear your remaining abnos and watch the true ending from the main menu
Yeah I know. I was going to do that but wanted to get on with Ruina. I had assumed that Lobotomy Corp rocketing off and breaching the city was the big spoiler that you get in Ruina alongside the whole story with Carmen and all the original staff members who got turned into Sephs. I figured the epilogue was an actual epilogue which serves more as a capstone rather than something plot critical.
I'm not sure what you're telling me. I've already beaten Lobotomy Corporation I just didn't grind out those last few abnos.
I thought that All of the ordeals were manifested from Ayin's mind and aren't 'real'
Yes I think it would have been kind of lame to start with Ruina since it spoils a bunch of cool moments real appearance of Sephs; the idea of the script and loops; Angela being trapped and extremely angry at A; etc... but I feel that I got enough out of Lobotomy Corp that having a few small details in the epilogue spoiled won't really lower my enjoyment of either game.
binah also mentions that ordeals are a biproduct of the cogito process, so go figure
>limbus company goes EOS because of this atrocious update
>you will never again see grindfags and hodlfags argue with each other ever again
>you will never again see faustfags and outisfags get into yet another slapfight, with ishmaelfags btfo'ing both as the silent majority
>you will never again see anons posting their crackpot theories ever again
>you will never again see anons get filtered by chapter 3 and come ask the thread for help
>you will never again see anons lyricspost for mili songs
bros.... im scared... they'll salvage this right? they'll make amends right?
Dramatic dumb ass
>>you will never again see grindfags and hodlfags argue with each other ever again
Thank god, you gays trying to turn everything into sports team is fucking obnoxious.
No. This is the end of Project Moon. They let the money get into their heads and their on the verge of running with the money.
it was fun while it lasted
can I play on mobile with my steam account?
Yeah just link an account then send a merge code from your phone onto the steam version and you can play on both.
I have no idea how steam to mobile works.
No because the mobile port runs like SHIT most non gamer phones can't even run it without crashing
I have an S23 Ultra so it should be fine
The highlight of this update was the grind and thread 4 hours before maintenance. Everything else is just meh.
Eh it gets old when everyone acts like spastic retards for multiple threads
What rewards do you think the endgame Railway Dungeon will give? 6 threads and 1 gold ticket? Lol
Maybe like 10 bp exp once a day my dude
>mfw 300 lunacy
Honestly, its fine. what are you crying about?
you either exp grind or get thread. And with the increased rewards from mirror dungeons you can also get a tonne of thread
It does suck in the fact that you have to play a fuckload daily if youre mentally ill and unironically brickpost, but whatever. I don't get why everyone acts like the sky is falling
>"everything is fine" copepost
Its only fine for current players. New players are fucking bricked. Mirror dungeon grind was so much more rewarding exp wise that anyone who did a little bit a day is coasting by on hundreds of tickets, while people who didnt are just completely fucked on it.
It's not fine at all for new players, and if the plan is to survive on the remaning ones then it's dead
Because most people literally do not have the enk to clear their daily bonuses. It's fundamentally broken.
It's not the end of Project Moon or the fucking game, but it's absurdly incompetent and I'd go as far to say it shows they really don't understand how to design a gacha game.
1 Enk every 5 minutes = 12 Enk an hour
12 * 24 = 288 Enk a day
Luxcavation costs 40 per run and each has 3 daily bonuses so thats 240 Enk a day if you want to get the Daily Bonuses for both Luxcavations
You literally don't have enough Enk left over for the 3 modules to do a mirror dungeon run
every 6 minutes, its 240 enk per 24 hours. You also get a free mirror dungeon a day
This also requires you to babysit the game and log-in more than once, as opposed to simply hopping on, getting your grind on, and hopping off like every other mobile game.
>You literally don't have enough Enk left over for the 3 modules to do a mirror dungeon run
you still get a freebie each day, retard
Awesome, you're at a literal zero sum gain of modules still. That's not good.
It's terrible 'cause now you have to pay attention to your stamina, you need to play asap so that it can regen for the later runs, and you might not always have the time
See
If you completely cut EXP Luxcavation out of the picture (hodlfags need not reply), that leaves you with 120 natural stamina, enough for 2 MD runs + your daily.
If you want to do ALL daily bonuses well you're just shit out of luck and can only do a single MD a day. Hope you saved some modules.
Of course all of this requires precise timing on your end so that not even a single Enkephalin goes to waste and frankly no one is going to fucking do that.
In short: if you're not using Lunacy to refill Enkephalin you're NGTMI.
your first MD a day is free
>enough for 2 MD runs + your daily.
I know. I literally mentioned that.
Sorry I read your second line and I didn't reach the right prudence levels.
AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY MORE AFTER THAT moron
because it's a shit update that can potentially kill the game? what the fuck do you expect?
It's fine for us but new players are fucked. Do you remember what we used to tell people to do when they got stuck on 3-4? What the fuck are they going to do now lol
Am i supposed to do all the 3 difficulties to get the 40 lunacy from each dungeon or do i just run the lv30 three times and get 120 lunacy anyway?
Each dungeon
from what I seen each have their own lunacy but we still unsure if it one time EVER or once per day. Doing the hardest 3 times today is a waste though, do one of each.
This game went from 10 minutes a day grind and 1-2 hours a week of MD to 60 minutes a day grind 1-2 hours a week of MD
How is this fucking fair?
I hate this update
>Having a solid friends list with a diverse set of uptied Sinners and EGO is now mandatory
kek
>pm continuing the theme of the power of personal connections even in the meta
guido is so fucking tough to deal with at the end of the 30 exp luxcavation holy shit
Soooo... if we get 700 Lunacy per week from MDs then do you guys think the daily 26 lunacy refill is going to be worth it for those of us without many tickets? I know the math boys were saying lunacy -> modules -> MD -> BP crates was going to be way more efficient than rolling for 000s. If the 40 lunacy initial clears for each luxcavation fight is a persistent and not one-time thing it basically pays for itself, but I doubt it'll be that good
The One Who Bricks
I can't help but feel like lady luck doesn't care for me
Chink status?
They can't even play.....
Honestly wonder why they didn't just make-up a Chinese TL but for Steam specifically if they wanted infinite money even if it doesn't touch the mobile market there
Fuck.
Without the chinks they might take a while to change it.
>Get chink review bombed
>Decide to not even translate the game for then anymore
BRAVO DIRECTOR, PUNISH THEM MORE
I checked and there's a soft-fanbase on the videosites of people who are bilingual enough to play it on Steam.
Based yurishrinefag
>no apples next to her
There was some (probably) apple flavored(?) candy sticks below it as the guy was bowing
why is he like this
We trained him wrong
As a joke
Because he's right.
>why is he right
Because he has the benefit of an education
He wish for death and be isekai where he have a godly luck stat. Joking aside he was lucky enough to be born into a great family and seen how shit other people lives are. He likely honestly believe luck is the greatest thing one can have. Beside as chapter 2 shown luck is literally a thing you can obtain and hoard.
'Luck is a skill' is a common Chinese and Korean aphorism among gamers over there.
thread excavation was what I was most hyped about but it looks like I'm not upgrading my units any time soon
How much xp do you get from lv30 without daily boost?
How do you get that bonus 40 lunacy?
Win within 10 turns 🙂 Its also only first time clear.
>Newfags will never know what it's like to grind out 50 gold tickets as soon as the weekly reset hits
Dire.
anti-grindfags are regretting the past two fucking weeks where they just sat on their thumb being lazy fucks fully aware the change was coming. The only good thing to come out of this update.
>caring about exp tickets when you can just grind whatever gacha pull you want now
unironic cope
>still doesn't realize he's bricked
as expected of a grindape
>they'll never know the euphoria of making it in time and the schadenfreude of watching the people who were too slow or thought holding was the better choice cry in misery
>go to add some people on Ganker
>already friends with most of them
does the game have to freeze for 5 seconds every time I use a damn ego
>hotfix already
Lol
Lmao even
bravo, that was fast
No wonder
Rejoice, for hodlfags have been saved.
AIIIIE DIRETTORE
I KNEEL
APOLOGEMS INCOMING
>same energy
literally no fixed at all
exactly
Wait, this new stuff requires chapter 3 finished?
Fuck me.
the second one requires chapter 2 so you got that going for you
Good enough to at least clear my dailys for today at least. Guess i need to stop being lazy tomorrow and finish either way. Especially since I don't need to do a mirror dungeon every day for the fucking one daily kill.
its going to get changed to "get most of the way through chapter 3"
Oh man, I guess the director's making a BIG MISTAKE fixing something that's perfectly fine already.
Amazing how no one agrees with you
>bait post
>bait image
>autist isn't able to detect sarcasm
How are you supposed to convey sarcasm through text?
you never seen the "I was only pretending" shit? It doesn't matter if you were "pretending" to be retarded or not. We will just treat you like a retard because you may as well be one at that point. Say only what you mean in the future. I'm not even going to waste my time to grab said image, you lucky to even get the (you).
Good, because holy shit imagine spending 2/3rd of an MD run for 1 gold and 3 silver tickets, that's a brick and a half.
And nice, they moved the story requirement down, asking for newfags to beat Kromer just to start getting gold EXP tickets is silly
ITSFINEFAGS BTFO
STAY ON FUCKING REDDIT
>only did the 3x luxcavations and haven't started on the shitty exp ones
phew, I made it out choosing to grind and came this close to bricking at the final stretch.
Did I already brick myself doing everything what the FUCK
Your dumb ass saw it was gonna get boosted but had to do it anyway
but the energy though
it just doesn't add up
>3 stages down to 2
They really gutted this. You'd think they'd have done this before releasing but they fixed it pretty quickly.
Anon your prudence...
I meant waves Im just a dumbass.
>level 28
>2 waves
thank fucking god
If the energy stays at 40 then that's 120 Enkephalin a day for 15 (18) Golden Tickets. A little better than the 180 you'd have to pay for Mirror Dungeons to get an equivalent.
I'm alright with this, newfags are no longer done for
NOT EOS
WE WON
That was fast.
dantehhh. how are you gonna eat that dantehh
>5x 5x
that's what you got from off bonus MDs, what the actual fuck, increase it MORE, MORE I SAY
Doomers btfo
i thought you Gankerirgins were proud to do clear content underleveled? why do you suddenly need the exp/uptie crutch now?
because it completely cucks prudencelets and new players, which are needed to fund hagland
>what is endgame
>what is new content
But sure, hurling aimless insults definitely proves you right. gay.
because they can't stand the fact that they'll never catch up to people who played the game a lot more than them
Because the pre-hotfix system would make leveling new identities a pain in the dick.
cute brapper
personally id pull on her nips
UmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
HODLCHADS
not even enough to bring 1 person to level 30.
That's the joke
Not to be greedy, but I feel that they should include a single PE box in the apology gift. If the issue is that they messed up reward ratios, letting people who played with the bad ratios get their energy back would make sense.
Honestly still hoping for more reasonable energy cost. No one can play the story and do dailies at the same time without getting energy from leveling now.
Use Lunacy to refill. It's farmable now. You get 750 a week and that's if the Lunacy from the Luxcavations doesn't refresh daily. You only need 182 Lunacy a week if you used it to refill daily.
It should just be 30 energy dungeons, only needed to be done ONE time each day for each dungeon. None of this fucking 3/3 + 3/3 shit.
Then someone can do their MD on top of that if they want. The original objective of this update was to REDUCE grind by dividing it from the MD but it all added up feels grindier
>but it all added up feels grindier
Can't agree more. I used to do my dailies in a single sitting. After I got done with the new dungeons I needed a break before I go for MD. It felt like there is more crap to do, not less.
It'd feel great and MAKES sense.
Average endgame person probably has about 100 energy.
30 to do the hardest level of the EXP dungeon once.
30 to do the hardest level of the thread dungeon once.
Adjust rewards as needed as if it were three in one from today's rates.
Then you'd have 40 leftover to turn into two modules or some shit or run another exp/thread dungeon if you want with reduced rewards.
>but it all added up feels grindier
Yeah its massively grindier. Dailies pre update was 3x 4 minute stages and a 20-30 min mirror dungeon. Now its 3x 10 min fights + 3x 10 min fights + mirror dungeon
>20 id training tickets (III)
That's uh, that's a lot. Goddamn
That's 2 MDs with the weekly bonus, 4 without the weekly bonus
Wait I'm retarded, I thought they were throwing out a bunch of the instant level 30 tickets for some reason kek
>80 lunacy a day
>as much thread as you want
>Everyone is already level 30 so who even needs xp
>MD now give a shit ton of battle pass xp
>everything has gotten way better
and yet. you. bitch.
read the thread before making such an idiotic post. ill overlook your blunder this time
oh no I already see that he's fixing something that was already fine, at this rate the director is going to ruin himself trying to make the doomfags happy.
>Game better
You people wont be happy until everyone is unlocked, everyone is level 30 and you did not have to pay for anything I swear
>You people wont be happy until everyone is unlocked, everyone is level 30 and you did not have to pay for anything I swear
But no one's asking for infinite lunacy? Gating your basic play resources (enk and modules) is completely out-dated gacha design.
>at this rate the director is going to ruin himself trying to make the doomfags happy
Oh yeah, because the director is just listening directly to Ganker and everyone on the internet complaining is wrong.
>not wanting the game to be better
who are you quoting
go back to /jp/
I've never been on that board
Lunacy is probably a one time thing.
Because 200 carmens a day is a truckload.
"I like this game as it is, hey why no one new is playing it? But I like it!" Think of other people beside yourself retard. This is a shit update objectively speaking and if you are too bias to stick your head out of your ass to see it then you have bigger issues than a fucking gacha game.
why are there so many retards like you that defend everything PM does?
Reddit phenotype. It's the same kind of redditor who defended shit like Cyberpunk when shit was obviously wrong
Obviously it was an issue because they fucking FIXED it and this obviously wasn't a Ganker-only opinion because they obviously heard a common complaint
>Everyone is already level 30 so who even needs xp
New players? Dude I don't care about exp tickets personally because I'm pretty set and had like 150+ loaded but new players would be absolutely fucked on 3-4
HODLGODS, WE SIMPLY REFUSE TO STOP WINNING
when was the last time you won? Oh yeah, never.
>been spamming Meursault's robo EGO so much he's actually just chilling at negative sanity now
>same happens pretty easily with a team built around Rodion
THIS PARTY'S GETTING CRAZY
It's great that they're fixing the poor xp rewards, bu the daily grind is still gonna be way too long
They tuned it down to 2 waves and lowered the levels so it should be a magnitude more manageable
Hope they don't keep Guido in the stage though
I CAN'T STOP GRINDAN MIRROR DUNGEONS
ALREADY MY 12TH ONE TODAY
GrindGOD Evolution
>he didn't hodl for the event
Bricks ahoy!
I will just whale if need be. The director deserves my money
ALRIGHT now that EXP Luxcavations are fixed how are we feeling about this update? Did grindfags or hodlfags win?
I won because I always win baby!
I don't how you guys don't get tired of spamming the same shit over and over.
Gacha grinders are barely human
SEXO
prompt?
Fuck............I shouldn't have held bros........
it was the correct choice, no one expected them to go full retard and use energy instead of modules
>no one expected them to go full retard and use energy instead of modules
It was literally advertised to use energy isntead of modules, did you never read the image thing they sent out weeks ago?
They said they were using pure enk retard, it just wasn't expected to be this fucking much
Honestly, it really is a shame to see the game this way. You can tell PM really does have passion for the game and wants to make it "work", but they have no clue how to.
Gacha was literally the last thing that they should have touched, imagine how better the game would have been with a LoR style game.
Was LoR during testing phase this bad? I heard that it was a fair amount of shitshow
it was but we enjoyed it
It was janky, but the only big shitshows was 9/11 where they overhauled the skill system and the first ending feeling a little flat (and chinks thinking it was asking for more money)
in terms of bugs and such yea. Though in terms of design the worst they did during early Ruina days was grinding exp for key pages which honestly wasn't THAT bad. No fucking clue how they blundering on the concept of simple daily tasks this much though. I honestly can't defend them if they are just being straight up retarded.
This wild ride is probably the most fun I've ever had with a gacha tbh, I can't wait to see more fuck ups in the future
I was calling it out during one of my "doomposts".
ProjectMoon would not have the excuse they had in prior games by just saying lolearlyaccess since this is technically a "finished" (for a live service gacha) product
And the fact people paid money for this game live really limits their design choices imo like actively nerfing units
Yes and no, it was more fun and the biggest fuckup in terms of grind was leveling up the floors. 9/11 was pretty fun and chaotic until they settle into the game we know and love.
It seem that the last time el director played a gacha was 2010. This game feels like an old gacha in every single way.
So when is the hotfix going live?
3 hours from now
3 hours
>BP missions and rewards just pushed me up five fucking levels to 33
Now THIS is nice.
only 33? slacker
I play other games.
People have a life u know
nobody that goes on Ganker has a "life"
yeah, very funny, keep thinking that
If they're this quick to backtrack and fix the XP rewards, what are the chances they nerf the MD rewards sometime soon? They kinda stick out like a sore thumb with how good they are at the moment.
Should us sub-60 BP semi-grindlets blow 50 modules in the next couple of days?
so which one I should focus on doing
Mirrors
Thread followed by mirror followed by exp. 18 thread a day is still 18 more than we got previously.
mirror > threads >>> exp. Honestly depending on how much you grinded pre-update if it wasn't for the lunacy I would just tell you to straight up not touch them. On exp do one of each level, they each give lunacy. Doing the hardest 3 times only give you one drop of it.
Mirror Dungeon x3 > Thread > MD again > EXP as it stands
Mirror weeklies > Thread dailies > EXP dailies > EXP > MD > thread when they push the hot fix out
>got Reindeer Ish with my paid daily roll
I FORGIVE YOU DIRECTOR
>already did my bonus runs
I thought they'd take at least until one daily reset
I remember you from pojo, you were a gay then and you're still a gay now
I can't play 30 minute stages while working, that's why I just converted excess energy to modules
AAAAAAAAAAAAA I WISH I WERE A NEET
Why are you people acting like they can't just patch it?
they already did shut the fuck up and read the goddamn thread
Anyone know if both lvl 20 and 30 thread luxs give first time lunacy bonuses?
literally some 4 posts up
I am retarded apparently since I clicked the wrong reply
yeah, I'm retarded too and didn't read your post properly
Now that hodlfags have been saved from the pit we can all get back to our regularly scheduled program of grinding and waifufagging, yes?
no, we need to complain on the enkh costs first
>holdfags "saved"
>holdfags could save raw energy
lmao. Simply lmao
Hodlchads won already, now won harder with the exp update, AND will continue to hodl
>Hodlfags
>winning
You only won if you held for the entirety of the previous MD, but grinded like a madman during the 4 hours pre update.
Woooo I won baby! Yeaaaaah!
That winner? Me.
That I did, lumping themselves with the mirror rush is grindfag cope.
Grindfags still won and are still winning. Dunno how hodltrannies can possibly spin this into a win. You had to whine for a jannie to save you. Starting to lose? Cry for an adult? How is that winning? Just making a fool out of yourself.
I almost gave in, but got a sign from the game itself. Finished my 5 dungeons.
How do I use exp tickets and uptie identities?
hold click on your sinners in the sinner tab
Hold click on the identity
Gold click the ID you want, then there’s a yellow ^ button next to their level
hold lmb on the selected ID
and click the button
Honestly PM is a complete fuck up with this game, but I cant help but just cheer them on trying to actually fix this clusterfuck with such passion.
Trust the plan, bros
We have to have fAith in the morons.
Holy shit, why are these dailies so costly?
Will they ever learn or every damn update is gonna have an hotfix?
How are they gonna fuck up their first major event?
>every damn update is gonna have an hotfix?
Wouldn't doubt it at this point. The dumb fuckers are literally sitting there on a potentially successful game and just keep going "nah, we don't need to learn how to do this" every fucking time.
>How are they gonna fuck up their first major event?
Wouldn't doubt if they make a character so fucking busted that anyone who missed it is forever bricked. Either that or so weak that they may as well not even exist and become a pseudo-1 star but without none of the perks of one.
this is kinda fun honestly, these levels of balance are on the level of a small porn game on johren or something
it's like the wild west
MANAGER ESQUIIIIIIIRE!!!!!! DO NOT LEAVE YET, FOR THEY WILL SURELY RIGHT THEIR MISTAKES!!!!!!!!!
Is the thread robot tanky as shit or do I just need to focus my team building harder?
His gimmick is that he needs to be killed like 5 times until you do the combat event, click no 3 times and then you can actually kill him. He has some really absurdly high rolling attacks for no reason but it's generally manageable once you're able to kill him.
So where is the Rodion banner?
next week
Where the other banners are. I just did my 13 lunacy roll
i was wondering the same.
Don't need it anymore though, i got spooked by kuro Rodya on the N Corp banner.
LET ME TURN OFF THE FACTORY ALREADY JESUS FUCK
DO YOU LOVE THE THREAD YOU POST IN?
NO
NO
NO
So you get the lunacy bonus once per difficulty stage or should i just spam the lv 30 one?
Its an ex clear per difficulty. so 260 lunacy up for grabs for first time EX clears. Very likely wont reset per day
Does it make any difference if I single roll my extractions or if I roll 10 at once?
read the rates
It got fixed in a fucking hour and you gays were acting like it was the end of the game. 2 weeks to fix my ass get some god damn fAith
It's not just the rewards that suck, it's how much longer the new modes glue you to the game and how much energy it costs to run.
You gotta admit they are at least passionate about fixing the game. Its like watching someone trying to stop a boat from sinking but it miraculously stays afloat
So I just got N corp Meursault and Rodion in a single pull, and I was wondering if it is worth using simply for Meursault synergy.
I was honestly trying to uptie Gregor G corp to level 3 but now I am hesitating since I hear that Meursault is the best tank in the game
Tanks aren't very necessary as the game is right now and G Gregor's monstrous amount of sustain should make him fantastic in the upcoming railway, stick with the manlet.
>disgustingly tanky
>cannot be staggered
>sick damage and bleed synergy on his red and blue skills
>yellow and blue also feed into all of his egos in some capacity
He's not god tier by any means, but he operates extremely well imo.
before update
>1 md a day easily done with auto, battle interaction needed only on abno fights
after update
>6x lv30 dungeons on top that require your attention
it's over
Lvl 30 dungeons?
It's a 1 wave abno fight and 3 wave enemy fight brain dead clerk
You should be on scarecrow duty NOW
You're not fooling anyone
Why the fuck would I lie when anyone can boot up the game and check in 10 minutes
Forgot scarecrow.
have a nice day.
oh fuck i just converted all my enk into modules out of habit FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK
>people complain MDs are boring and grindy for lvls
>morone chang it
>everyone hates it and want to grind MDs again
WHICH WAY YELLOW MAN?!
I personally never complaint about MD as they were, I just wanted one new thing to have a way to earn thread. The fact dailies force you to do exp dungeon piss me off to no end. "Just ignore it" is literally not even an option.
No, people are complaining that these dailies are stupidly costly for terrible rewards.
The dailies should NOT cost 235 energy for the minimum best benefits.
Because this is even grindier than doing a daily MD five times a week?
https://discord.gg/UumJ2M9MPe
'
What is the point in this? Nobody is going to join your gay ass discord no matter how much you spam it
It’s just an attention hungry freak they know it’s regarded but any attention is attention so..
>Nobody is going to join your gay ass discord no matter how much you spam it
Is that server icon a Maplestory 2 thing? Fucking why though? That game is dead.
Old weeaboos still obsess over it
>old
The game is like 2 years old.
I stand by my statement
more like 8 years
>can't just convert to modules anymore
>now have to grind levels just so that I can amass enkephalin to play the excavation modes when I get home
hags
Happy Birthday
What a wild fucking day.
Not for me, I spent most of it asleep
bricked
You have no idea how much I want to breed Outis
Why are hags so breedable in this game
Did PM crack the code?
You have no idea how much I don't care
Outis headpats
how would she react to being headpatted?
Dutifully, of course
If the executive manager wishes to give headpats, she will volunteer her head without hesitation
>60 year old Outis
Practically a teenager in City years
>those resistences
I feel like this just makes them harder than they are in the mirror dungeon and story.
Which is fucking retarded for your main source of exp. Unless maybe if lvl30 really is the true end-game level cap that's never going to be raised. Then I could maybe understand the pacing a little more, but we're already at that point in the story.
>Grindkeks didn't stockpile moduels for the Refraction Railway
Holy Bricked
moduels for the Refraction Railway
AHEM
>Entering costs an Enkephalin module. After entering, the dungeon will be freely accessible for the rest of the week.
wait the fix is in 3h???
so should I grind them before the patch or not like yesterday ohnonoonoon
successfully completed repression work on the thread abnormality huh
WARNING MIND WHIP IS NOT FIXED SHE'S STILL SHIT FOR MD
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Why is every single update a couple GBs?
I feel like they wanted us to do one of each with how the costs and quests are set up but fucked up adding the three per day bonus.
They should increase the rewards and make the bonus five times per week.
what's the difficulty of the new lvl30 stuff? is it the same as 3-22 or does it actually require leveling
EXP right now it's pretty hard but will get nerfed in a few hours.
I did Thread with a party of level 25 just fine.
My 3 compensation tickets and free pull on the Rodion banner got me nothing 🙁
But I got almost enough dupes from the last banner to buy LCCB if I open a handful of nominals, is it worth it?
>tfw don't have time to do 3 thread and xp dungeons + a MD
I'm bricked...
I'm just going to do the daily. I don't care if I'm bricked.
They can't stop me anyways.
I think doing all three boosted runs is asking for a lot, just do 1 EXP run, maybe try to get all 3 Thread runs if you can, then do MD
Why remove auto for exp grind? WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN TO GRINDERS AAAAAA
I really do not think they designed it for people to be doing three of exp/thread per day judging by the design of this weekly
Then why the daily bonus be 3/3? We just have to ignore the fact the daily bonus even exist now?
I have no fucking clue, I think people would just say "bro just don't do them" and honestly I'm inclined to agree with them if the original intent was some kind of route system where you can choose your day's energy on either that have a bonus stapled on it but it feels like a design fuck-up
Maybe but yea, misleading design for sure if the case.
>Then why the daily bonus be 3/3?
Because Project Moon fucked up, most likely
>It's actually supposed to be 3 bonus between the 2 of them
You know what? I believe it
guys you grinded so all your team for luxcavation is lvl 30 right???
yeah. why're you asking?
>Says recommended lv 30
>Easily do them at 25
lvl 30 is for ungabunga prudencelets
Wow, EXP Lux 30 completely filtered my ass.
I went in and got my ass handed to me because I went with all of the IDs that use bullets without expecting to fight 3 waves.
>went into it with pierce damage when all enemies have a fatal weakness to blunt and a resistance to pierce
?????
Bullets are a finite resource, anon.
LCCB ish uses blunt bullets
Still 111 gold tickets after leveling 6 000 and 2 00 to level 30, you okay hodlcucks?
>wasting that many tickets when better id's are coming
bricked
have fun spending on them on dupes while I buy out the shard shop
What?
This thread needs more Sin-ku-lair
more like SEXclair
Did the double weekly reset happen or not
Sounds like you missed out, anon
It did, if you did your shit in that 4 hour window you got a clean reset post-update. That was peak excitement for threads until exp implications came then the hotfix.
That was a fun thread. Anyone who thought it wouldn’t reset doesn’t know PM and their jank at all. There’s no way in hell they would code some calculation to subtract your 5/5 daily from the new 3/3, or correlate them in any way. It’s beyond them, they’d obviously just reset the whole thing.
I think they straight up stated it'd be reset but yeah there's no way in hell they would be able to calculate someone who is 3/5 on bonuses being factored into having 3/3 again and not just clean resetting. That's not even moving on the fact dailies occuping the same spot on the list would be overwritten?
Yes
It did, and it was insanely fun.
Yes. You missed it and the complete hodlfag suicide.
SINCLAIR WAIT
Fuel to the flame
IT'S NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
based CHADclair standing up against hammermorons
>kills Meursalt
>10 hp heal
He gave his life for survivability on purpose.
New MD rewards are nice at least.
yea. you guys are grinding right?
Waiting for energy to reach a threshold for a dungeon because I am stupidly close to a level up currently. My fucking god I just want to play the fucking game but they made it so much slower by making energy so fucking valuable. Ironic part is that I have like 120 modules I can't do shit with.
Hodchads actually won because in the long run shards are going to be MUCH more valuable than EXP and threads
You retards just keep going on and on holy shit.
You're literally unironically certifiably insane if you think goid tickets are going to be worth anything in the next few months.
Sure hodlbro, whatever you say..
Did you even read the second post there.
did you even read the third one?
3 months from now I will be laughing so hard at you... So hard. Screencap this post. Modules will be worth LITERAL GOLD 3 months from now.
Anon you are such a fucking imbecile, and should consider suicide immediately.
The second and third posts you replied to on your previous post we’re supporting hoarding modules.
And despite that you keep attacking me. Almost as if you're a grindfag... hmmmmmmm
refer to
I was not really playing this game since 2 weeks ago, did they fix the defense system and how did they change that too? I cant make sense of the patch notes
they moved the combat changes to mar 23rd. see you then anon
I have 189 threads, sitting at 3-18 and no clue what i am doing.
Who do i uptie and level?
>durr how do I uptime and level
>level 20+ tier 3 G Gregor
uh huh
Not, how. WHO you illiterate fuck.
i wanna use N Corp Meur and Rodion but i guess i am already spoiled that bringing bleed into the chapter 3 dungeon is asking for a bad time.
thanks BongBong.
I haven't slept for 24 hours, please understand
chapter 3 boss aside N Rodion is pretty decent for everything else. Mirror runs are less meta given the new daily limit but nevertheless a ton of bleed ego gifts she work wonderfully well with. I don't have N Corp Meur personally but I don't regret having Rodion nevertheless. Also friendly reminder 2 stars take less thread, so while they might be overall weaker they might be more power for less in the short term. Unless you going right into endgame all 3 star setup if nothing else she can easily replace a 1 star for cheap.
Bleed can be used in other content at least
If you want to go hard on it then kurokumo honglu and especially ryoshu are very good at abusing bleed to its fullest
>LC Faust
>Kurokumo Hong lu
>LCCB Ishmael
Those 3 00 are unironically too strong to not uptie
Then either hold for N Meursault or G Gregor
Kurokumo Hong Lu and LC cl*rk Faust are top tier 00's.
so now that we have a way to farm thread what are some good egos to uptie
...
>668 fps
I pulled 13 times and only got N-corp Rodion. Why am I so unlucky?
Damn I should have done the required reading
Who the hells this Demian kid? What books he from
Why did my sinners job again and lose in a cutscene
>What book is Demian from
Couldn't be Demian
Demian is from Demian, anon.
>Why did my sinners job again and lose in a cutscene
A color no-diffed them in about 60 seconds. They are still weak as fuck.
Demian is from the book "Demian".
>Why did my sinners job again and lose in a cutscene
Because you're jobbers
Or a nicer way of looking at it is that you're relatively normal beyond starting to manifest EGO, and the world is an absolute fucking nightmare.
There's a reason the set up for this gig involves REPLACING A DUDE'S HEAD WITH A REVIVE STATION.
>You get 288 potential enkeph daily via natural regen
>daily exp is 30 a run (90)
>daily thread is 35 a run (105)
>That's 195 of your daily stamina
>Meaning you only have 93 to do anything else with, meaning if you're trying to get current on the story you can't do much and if you're all current you can get like 5 more thread or a couple more exp tickets with your bonus 2 to 3 runs
>You get 288 potential enkeph daily via natural regen
240. Its 1 per 6 mins or 10 per hour
Oh right, for some reason my brain didn't comprehend the timer starting at 5:59.
They still need to just drop them to 20 each. That would even it out to half your daily stamina going towards that and leaving the rest for either extra grinding or progression. God fucking forbid what event stamina costs are going to be.
if you're low level enough to still be doing story missions you can easily get a lot of manager level ups very quickly, and thus a lot of extra enkephalin.
I haven't gone outside in 9 days and now I have to take a break from mirror dungeons to go buy food
this sucks...
I can only genuinely hope you’re joking
not joking
I haven't really had a reason to go outside for a while
Anon go outside there’s no reason for this, go to a restaurant or just drive for a while
Restaurants are too expensive and I don't have a drivers license. I will go buy some food now though.
GrindGOD we are honored to have you in our thread
>9 days
smalltime
I haven't gone outside in 12 years
>I haven't gone outside in 12 years
giwtwm
I have to leave again in 5 hours god damn it
INVESTIGATE FACTORY
DO YOU RIKE TOWN
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
God fucking damn it i WANT to grind my dailies but the update REFUSES to download FUCK FUCK GOD DAMN I JUST WANNA PLAY THE GAME director why have you BETRAYED and TRAPPED me in ASSET DOWNLOAD ERROR HELL FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU DIRECTOR IM GONNA DISTORT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TL;DR - over this season, and have at least lvl 20 BP:
If you're F2P, you get 240 shards
If you're F2P and grind, you get 358 shards
If you're F2P, grind and do enkephalin refills, you get 520 shards
If you're a paypig, you get 720 shards
If you're a paypig and grind, you get 1074 shards
If you're a paypig, grind, and do enkephalin refills, you get 1560 shards
Dailies: 70 XP per week
Weeklies: 20 XP per week
Mirror (bonus): 60 XP per week
Mirror (daily without bonus): 28 XP
178 XP per week. You'll get 9*178 XP = 1602 XP. If you're lvl 20 by the time the patch hits, you'll get 120 levels on top of the lvl 60 limit, which corresponds to either 120 or 360 boxes, depending on whether you bought the BP or not
120 boxes = 240 shards
360 boxes = 720 shards
Now let's say you also decide to farm. Say you do 3 dailies for thread and 1 for EXP, at 40 enkephalin each, for a grand total of 160. As you earn 240 enkephalin a day, you get to convert 80 into modules. 80 enkephalin = 4 modules a day = 1.(3) mirror dungeon runs = 9.(3) XP daily
9.(3)*63 = 588 XP = 59 levels
59 levels correspond to either 59 or 177 boxes
59 boxes = 118 shards
177 boxes = 354 shards
If you're F2P, you get 358 shards in total. If you bought the BP, you get 1074 shards, enough for almost 4 EGOs/000
This does not account for mini-events we'll get in the meantime, higher BP level you may have at the moment, or your stockpiled modules
Bonus (assuming 110 max enkephalin)
If you convert 26 lunacy to stamina, you get 110 stamina, or 5.5 modules. If you do it for the next 63 days, you'll get 346.5 modules for 1638 lunacy
346.5 modules is enough for 115.5 runs. This corresponds to 808.5 XP, or 81 levels. This is equal to 81 boxes for F2P, or 243 boxes for paypigs. This is equal to 162 shards and 486 shards respectively
You just spent 1638 (free) lunacy to get a 000/EGO of your choosing
THE LEFT CAN'T MEME
I specifically added a TL;DR you double moron
>an extra 1,000 shards just for forking over $11
1000 shards on top of everything else.
Feels good not to be a poorfag.
those are nominable shards right
Yes.
the BP starts giving out shards for every level after you clear it
Not taking into account the new dungeons.
Not taking into account the "Hard mode"
Not taking into account the next event.
This is not a full guide.
Naturally. But we'll get new mirror dungeon when we hit season 2 of BP, this is a season 1 guide, and I did mention that this doesn't take into account events
I'd rather not think of that hellhole
>15~20 minutes per MD run mindless clicking auto-win
>have to do it 115 times
>literally grind for 30+ hours to get (1) UNO 000 identity
No, thank you.
I'm already wasting time shitposting on Ganker. Multitasking while animations play. Ezpz
wait what is the actual thread amount you get from the daily thread luxcavation
i did the first lvl30 one but i don't think it even showed me
6 with bonus
No wait, that's for the last one
What the fuck guys BongBong is a real drink? Found a can of her juices at a Korean convenience store.
I'm finally back
Claw, I'm coming for your ass
You can do it bro
I'm going to bed first
But after I get home from work, I WILL beat him, and then see how I feel about whatever is next and decide to keep playing based on my reaction
Watching people try to minmax a game that keeps explosively changing is funny as hell to watch.
Give it to me straight... Is G Corp Greg considerably better than Liu? I just find Liu way cooler.
They're good at different things. G Greg has good sustain while Liu Greg has BEEG damage and burn out the ass.
Both are very good, Liu Gregor is a bit better roll wise though it’s honestly a choice between healing or burn
Burn will be more of a detriment if bosses like Kromer become the norm.
Liu can be good but G Corp can be good in nearly every single situation
Burn is pretty bad in my opinion, it really doesnt scale well.
Yes G Corp is better. For many reasons but chief among them being perfect synergy with Legermain which is a very strong EGO
Liu is a monster.
G gregor absolutely blows the fuck out Liu for right now, it's really not even a contest. His skills are strong without relying on shitty +1 and +2 coins, his sustain makes him tanky and flexible, and he also synergizes with the free BP ego and can spam the shit out of it.
If more burn support comes out then liu could be better, but right now he's just kinda middling without support from OP ego gifts
liu is really good buge is better, liu does have the blunt advantage though
>Have to keep playing the game all day to do fucking dailies
You literally cant do every daily without a lunacy refill unless you do one 35 energy one. Since its 240 energy for full clear, and you only get 240 energy after 24 hours pass. As the 24th hour ticks over the day resets and you cant do the final run
>30 pulls for a spelling mistake in another language
What did I miss
>30 pulls
>>30
guys I sinned
I only did 2 md during short reset yesterday..
Don’t worry, that’s good enough.
I FUCKIN LOVE SWEEPERS DONT YOU FUCKING LOVE SWEEPERS TOO?
DIE ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
They're just making sure youve become strong, genuinely
>People still trying to sleep on Liu Gregor
Lmao
I've been an advocate for Liu Greg and Meur after they carried my ass in chapter 3.
don't worry, i know
that fuckin 4 punch combo man
am i crazy or are mirror dungeons a bit tougher
they're the exact same
lot of unlucky rolls then i guess
Feels the same as usual.
I came in a month late. How much grinding am i up for just to get past chapter 3?
Bricked account
Low 20's is good enough, but you have to know how to read.
You can honestly just play through the story with no/minimal grinding. Chapter 3 will be really rough but if you make it to the final dungeon you're honestly golden regardless of your levels.
Invest in the guy with a bat. He will care you through chapter 3. No identities.
I yearn for the day my Energy bar reaches the maximum of 240...
A serious question.
Do you guys think we'll see LoR characters in LC? Or they will save them for another game?
Aren't they basically stuck in the library outside of the City? I don't think we will see them unless after the City Limbus just expand the map completely and let you go outside of it. Not even sure if "going outside" is even possible in the lore when it comes to the city.
>Do you guys think we'll see LoR characters in LC?
Most unlikely since PM stated that their story is finished... for now. Maybe in LC2.
Some of the guests will show up
Librarians probably won't
I'd love to, but I'm fine with them never showing until at least the story is over
Probably not till near EoS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
IT WON'T ME INTO THE GAME
restart steam
I JUST DID
MY STEAM IS BRICKED
it's over
sorry anon
oH
I just did a file verification/integrity check and now I have the pop up to install the update
Shrimple as that
Spigot ID when
That's saved for Nest V
Splendid
Honestly this is more of a chore list than a game. I will not fall for the gacha trap and will watch the cutscenes on youtube.
Would disagree with you before but with this update, honestly yea. That might be the best route to go unless they change something soon.
You're completely right. I will stick with it but there's no way I'm doing more than 10 minutes a day.
weak
Carmen is right
Its honestly crazy just how insane carmen looks up until you realize just how fucked up the city is.
What's wrong, anon?
spooky
uncanny even
Exactly. Ayin just wants to make people feel good or whatever but Carmen will give people the power to fight back
Carmen WAS right
hohoho someone's in trouble