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Why'd Hokma refuse to drink with Netzach, though
Hokma’s a bitch
You WILL fund the theme park. This is no longer a suggestion.
Only if he keeps giving me free tickets
Of course I will. When the next game comes out. But I'll enjoy Limbus until then without spending any money on it.
Yeah, when LC 2 comes out I would. I'm not spending a penny on a g*cha.
To the anon last thread, I was going to tell him when he finished chapter one since he was getting bodied so hard by apple (he actually just lost all sinners and had to restart the fight with fresh lads) but then he discovered the check wasn't actually a one time thing. Also he definitely doesn't uptie anything so he's at a disadvantage there. Here's what his first team looked like before getting wiped
holy fucking kino
Hag lovers thread best thread
I dont feel like cracking some secret code, what does this mean?
It's probably just regular censorship to avoid spoiling things too much.
The made in abyss game was pretty jank but kinda neat. The make your own character bit was fun.
i loev Laetitia a lot
I do think the librarians should have taken a more critical look at who they let out from the library.
Was probably just an all-or-nothing deal or some shit. It's also not clear WHERE the unbooked people went. Did Tomerry appear in a WARP Train for example? Or were the characters just kind of flung around. How many of them died five minutes after their unbooking?
Angela was planning to place them where they were found accordingly but didn’t get the chance since Roland pulled her out before she could
Roland caused that big fuckup
Ladies and gentlemen. This is a public service announcement.
Agreed, every Gluttony I have is dogshit
Who has a good Gluttony skill 1/2 that's not one fucking coin?
I regret not rolling for him when I had the chance
I'm also still emotionally reeling from my wasted enkephalin discovery today
It's okay, you can save your EGOshards for him. That's what I'm doing. Not because he's good, but because I want my boy to be the best and strongest.
Why not just let him be Liu greg then? He's pretty happy there.
Good point. No bug arm.
Patiently waiting for the day I can construct a burn team...
>do thread luxcavations
>sinners all have only one skill each that corresponds with the affinity weakness, while the enemies take 0.75x damage from every other affinity
We're 80% getting affinity switching in chapter 4 aren't we
then cycle them out
>then cycle them out
The fuck are you talking about?
I'm memeing about my green orbs. But I don't undestand the point of your webm.
Picking evade doesn't change the top skill from purple to any other color or why change to evade when you can just select the top track for that attack.
the coin that the defensive coin replaces is cycled out, even if you don't use it. This allows you to rotate 2 skills in one turn if you don't like your bottom one.
You can see that if you actually look at the webm with your eyes.
You meant the turn 2 changed to something that is either the attack used previously nor the previous attack that was evaded, right?
I'll give a try since, but that webm just look random to me.
But it is good enough to test if it works.
>that webm just looks random to me
>green skill in bottom slot
>defensive coin replaces it, but is not used
>next turn it is revealed that the coin that the unused defensive coin replaced has been cycled out
who let you off scarecrow duty anon
Still looks random to me. I've playing this game for a while and there is no logic in what are you saying.
It is not even rare that one sinner will only pull the same color in both slots during the whole fight either.
But like I said, I'm gonna test this shit to see if it works.
how are you so fucking stupid? You're actually starting to impress me.
Normally one skill coin, the one you select, is cycled out each turn. The other one remains. The webm clearly demonstrates that two skills were replaced in one turn, due to the method used. What the fuck are you struggling to comprehend here?
one skill coin, the one you select
It doesn't work like that. As I said, is common to just roll the same skill you used the previous turn. So I don't see how anything can be recycled when it's just random.
the entire point is 2 skills were rolled out at once.
You can clearly see in game that if you don't use a skill it will sit there until you use it. Unused skills do not get cycled out. You can see this if you have any Skill 3 (of which the characters 'decks' have the least amount of) as one of your current two options, no matter how many turns you continue to not use it it will still be there.
It's very simple anon.
>normally one skill cycled out per turn
>with this way, 2 are
it cannot be any fucking simpler
>Unused skills do not get cycled out.
I'll pay more attention next time I'm playing this game.
That's the entire point of the third skill row, the one above the others that you can't select. It tells you which skill you will be getting next turn to replace whichever one you use on the current turn.
>That's the entire point of the third skill row, the one above the others that you can't select. It tells you which skill you will be getting next turn to replace whichever one you use on the current turn.
Yeah, I just noticed there is a ghost row in the webm.
you are forgiven if you have only played on mobile but if you play on steam then...
>but if you play on steam then...
Maybe I should play full screen for oncee
It's spelled LOVE
imagine how much damage that would've done post-combat changes
SEXO CON ABUELAS
god I want a tall older woman
bonus points if alcoholic
At this point in time Roland could have easily kneecapped Vergilius without even breaking a sweat, the madman just killed off the pianist (a WAW threat according to El Director) with nothing but his durandal and an infinite amount of rage, killed some retards from the Thumb and made fun of a schizo playing doll house.
Meanwhile Vergilius almost got killed by a HE abno.
And don't even let me start with Roland wearing the gloves and powered up by the library juice-
>And don't even let me start with Roland wearing the gloves and powered up by the library juice
>Beats the purple hag
>Beats the blue fag
>Beats the blue fag again
>Beats the blue fag yet again
loland is the strongest fixer
>Beats the Red Mist
I dunno if he'd actually beat a living Kali+EGO. She seemed kinda gimped after being turned into a brain-bucket and after that she's not only rusty, but not quite human either.
Keep in mind that Kali+EGO took on a facility's worth of abnos of varying danger levels and THEN beat an arbiter with only one hand.
Roland's main 'ability', as such, is his ability to just understand and replicate fighting styles (it's why he's so good at using Angelica's weapons), and he's mentioned to be on-par with Kali when it comes to using EGO at least, even if he lacks a personal one. Kali just has sheer fucking physical strength on her side, so he still probably loses that fight, but it's not a stomp.
It's a stomp and he only lasts about a minute before getting his shit pushed in with vertical split
>5v1 and he wasn't trying
>buffed by library bullshit
>only after blue fag was beaten into a pulp by the other 49 librarians
For all of Roland's skill and such, there's something to be said about the man's sheer fucking endurance. He went from killing the Pianist to going on his rampage which lasted who knew how long, and then later on he fights the Ensemble (which I think takes place over a week straight, right?), then has his meltdown (an event that's implied to have taken basically the full force of the Library to put down), fights the Ensemble AGAIN but Distorted this time, THEN fights Zena and Baral. Man just keeps fucking going.
Dont discredit my nuggets like that. He did it but he did it with a LOT of help
MTL shit over at vee ess tiii
Rage and adrenaline my dude.
Yes he is. He's just at mopping-duty grade now.
If he had long enough in the fight, I'm sure he'd be able to Mimic Kali's fighting style enough to counter it so it'd really be a matter of how fast she can end the fight with a guy that just won't fucking die.
Nah, he's expelled from the City so his fixer license is null.
Kind of a shitty fate if you think about it. Imagine going through all that trouble and now all you have in life are the people you were trying to kill for the longest time and a shithole worse than any district for a neighborhood.
Really, the fuckwit that can't even write his own name now has to spend the rest of his life in a fucking library. The reason people ship him and her so much is just to alleviate how fucking miserable his existence would be from that point on.
nah he gets along well with all the librarians except perhaps hokma/binah. especially netzach. Likely a better life than he could hope for post-angelica death if he remained in the city
until the light dries up and the librarians fade away without a trace
>LC2 is about building your own district out in the outskirts
>LC2 is about Z corp
>Extracting Abnos involves beating them up and dragging them into the facility
Would be kino
Wonder if it's gonna turn out there's anybody else out in the Outskirts.
Imagine you go just a few hundred miles and there's a totally normal town of people going "What the fuck, you were in that deathtrap land?"
As opposed to going back to his apartment, seeing the unused crib, toys, alcohol and anything and everything that reminds him of Angelica? Also drugs and the twelve fixers ganging up on him.
Jesus christ how suffering
That's a fair point. I guess at that moment, any chance for a happy future went down the drain and he had to take what he could get.
>implying they don't mix-n-match
The strongest FIXER and that's through deeds, not claims, even then that got her fucking offed.
>The strongest FIXER and that's through deeds, not claims
You're not fucking getting it
Kali was a literally who, who was good at their job until she got the prototype mimicry and suddenly she's the biggest dick in all of history and
>lmao u had 2 set an entire facility on me and 3v1 me and i still won lolol
Then you have Roland swinging the balance through sheer tardrage, the absolute vortex of contrivance that is Iori, and after all that we have Vergilius, who we're meant to take very seriously, but his ability seems extremely rudimentary against all these other people.
I love how noone brings up vermillion cross and blue reverb in powergayry, they are super jobbers
Vermillion Cross dies the moment we learn he even exists, to be fair. Argalia's only gimmick is weird soundwave shit and just refusing to stay down. If people didn't get forcibly booked in the Library, I imagine he'd have just fucking bit it a lot earlier on.
One was mentioned off-handedly to try and build up another character, and the other is the antagonist of a game. It's not really the same ballpark.
Individual EGO was a mistake. You have the balance of material worth vs personal skill, then introduce actual JoJo bullshit that completely throws it all out the window.
>You have the balance of material worth vs personal skill
Personal ego was a thing before we even had any of that introduced. That stuff didn't really come into play or be particularly lore relevant until Ruina.
I'm not saying it wasn't, I'm saying it was a mistake. My wording was unclear.
My point is EGO demolishes anything about a character besides the extent of their miseryporn and whether they can "it is what it is" hard enough, and everything is diluted into a shounen mess.
I don't see why it matters from a story-writing perspective. We get introduced to characters at an arbitrary powerlevel decided by the author, I don't personally see why it matters whether it's "well actually this character has super special rare augments from the ruins so he can beat everyone" or "well actually this character is a prodigy who is super special and has natural combat talent so he can beat everyone" or "well actually this character manifested EGO and has enough suffering porn so he can beat everyone". You already see plenty of settings without any explicit supernatural stuff still have dumb powerlevel bullshit go on, it all depends on the caliber of the writer.
>Calling the vermillion cross a jobber
I don't know what to say man, he had to fight the entire ensemble and even if he just fought Helena 1v1 she's nothing to scoff at.
People in here like to underestimate Helena when she almost kills Angelica and she had to fight against a former arbiter in the library clash, If anything that puts her well beyond the powerscale against someone as the vermillion cross.
I don't really think powerscaling is something we're meant to take too much into consideration in these games, to be honest. It's more just "these guys are all kind of broadly in the same tier, and a few can punch up a bit". Like Roland and Gebura are probably on the same 'tier', but Kali punched up a bit, whereas Roland had just rage and adrenaline pushing him on. Iori has her dimensional bullshit so she's an outlier.
Kali was the Strongest even before she got Mimicry though?
She wasnt even a color before she got mimicry you no-games playing retard
And the proofs are?..
I made it up.
Fuuuuuuck, you beat me
Kali got her color title after getting the EGO equipment, both her sword and mist armor, on the outskirt lab
How did she get a color if she stopped taking jobs as a Fixer and wasn't even in the City?
I don't remember where but I'm pretty sure it's states somewhere that she got her color while doing jobs for the lab team. Presumably she was regularly going into the city to do stuff even if the main lab was located in the outskirts.
She's the biggest dick in history because she manifested her own EGO in a time when EGO wasn't a thing, and was a prodigy at using it.
Roland isn't all that impressive without library buffs, people here just really like wanking him.
I agree Iori is bullshit though.
>Roland on his rampage killed god knows how many
>Verg is shown to be worried when Roland confronts him during said rampage
Is Roland a top-tier omega-skilled badass? No. But when he's unhinged and going feral he's clearly somebody people want to avoid, because he's more than capable enough to deal with most people in the City.
Do people here just pretend they played Ruina? Do they just ignore the part where Roland beat a color with library buffs then proceeded to defeat them after they distorted with the library at 1% power as Angela had returned all the light except a small amount to keep herself and the library alive?
>Roland beat a color with library buffs
Yes, with library buffs. Try to beat Argalia without any passive transfers or EGO pages.
>defeat them after they distorted
Dealt the finishing blow after the rest of the librarians defeated them.
>Dealt the finishing blow after the rest of the librarians defeated them.
>we beat the distorted ensemble
>we reduce argalia's healthbar to 0
>he starts charging a last resort move
>roland interrupts it
>short scene of roland disposing of a nearly-dead argalia, so little effort he can casually chat with angela while doing it
Anon Angela had to have been releasing the light for at least 3 days or so, the battle was a lot longer than you're thinking.
Why does it have to be that roland was fighting for that long and not the librarians?
Why does it have to be that the ensemble were unbooked right at the start and not near the end?
Roland fighting for a week makes the least sense because the first thing we see as he starts fighting is him saying he had just pulled Angela out of the light.
>Why does it have to be that roland was fighting for that long and not the librarians?
It doesn't have to be, it's just the absence of any bystanders or witnesses with the scene between the three of them suggests it's just them three there
>Why does it have to be that the ensemble were unbooked right at the start and not near the end?
Fair enough, we dont actually know in that case
>Roland fighting for a week makes the least sense because the first thing we see as he starts fighting is him saying he had just pulled Angela out of the light.
We don't actually know this either, we just know that Angela wakes up to which Roland greets her and tells her she almost disappeared on the last day so he pulled her out
Anyway, if he hadn't been fighting for so long why was he so weak and utterly exhausted for the head/eye/claw reception?
>Anyway, if he hadn't been fighting for so long why was he so weak and utterly exhausted for the head/eye/claw reception?
Because he was nearly beat to death during his own reception. A week won't heal broken bones and torn muscles.
But anon librarians get revived and healed after a reception is over, same way every librarian on every floor was ready and rearing to go against the distorted ensemble right after dealing with duh black silence. I suppose it didnt do the same for Roland after fighting Argalia since the library had lost its power(?)
It does that for the librarians, Roland was the one actually fighting them as the guest so I don't think it would do the same for him. We already see him covered in blood and struggling to stand while having his confrontation with Angela, which is after the "reception" itself had ended.
I suppose it could be either way, but I guess one of the reasons I think he fought Argalia for 3 days and that the ensemble were unbooked at the start is because Roland takes his mask off then and there. I just think it'd be autistic and a little bit retarded if he just waited there for three days with the mask on so Argalia would show up and he could take the mask off for an especially cool moment.
It's the little things.
We know Vergil is on the lower end of the color spectrum. He was visibly shook by Roland's presence, a reaction he didn't even have to Iori (though I attribute this to him being blindingly angry in the moment, Iori is likely the strongest living color)
I'd fear a child with a gun more than an adult with a bomb. One is slightly more reasonable and predictable than the other.
>good at their job
She was a color fixer by that point
You mean the abno weapons that possess strength all their own with this one belonging to the strongest class of abno that also resonated well with Kali creating a better functioning weapon? Yeah that's a bit of a buff.
>suddenly she's the biggest dick in all of history
You mean before or after she gained a naturally formed EGO before the WNDD? That thing that boosts people's natural abilities to stupid fucking levels? Especially Kali who wanted to protect the people she cared about with her greatest feats being done doing exactly that? Yes, that too would be a pretty big fucking buff.
So yes, on top of being a natural born killer, a color fixer, then with a badass sword that speaks to her, AND a naturally formed EGO she could take on 1 single arbiter, 2 claws, and abnos and still fucking die doing it.
Emotions have one hell of an effect in this world and Roland was rage incarnate but also on the level of another color, knew the techniques of another color, wore the gear of said color with their weapons, and then he went on his tardrage that still got stopped by the higher-ups.
Something something other dimensions. Even without that, she was competent enough as a fighter to train 2 kids that would become color fixers and one that might as well have been.
Nobody really knows what his deal actually is so it's hard to say,
So, to summarize, yes there are reasons people are how strong they are. People can do things even better when they have power-ups and better gear, and people can just in general be fucking strong because the city has at least a dozen ways to augment your abilities if you have enough money.
Most of the power-scaling stuff doesn't matter too much, anyway, because it's pretty clear PM's working on a "whoever wins is who's supposed to win for the story". Note that both times an Arbiter has been fought, the people fighting them have just gone through a fuckton of fighting prior, so a 'fair' match-up isn't really put out. It gives them leeway to make a 'fair' match against an Arbiter actually winnable in the future without seriously powerwanking anybody.
That's kind of what I'm trying to get at. It's not a matter so much of direct strength comparison so much as it is circumstance and timing.
Yeah, and they make a point that everybody's got their strengths as Fixers. Roland has his talent for copying fighting styles, Kali/Gebura has just sheer fucking physical prowess, Iori has weird dimension shit, Verg has... Well, I dunno, actually. But it's not about power, it's about just saying "these guys all have 'things' they can do that can even the odds to make any fight potentially winnable for story reasons".
>Note that both times an Arbiter has been fought, the people fighting them have just gone through a fuckton of fighting prior, so a 'fair' match-up isn't really put out. It gives them leeway to make a 'fair' match against an Arbiter actually winnable in the future without seriously powerwanking anybody.
But what you describe just paints arbiters as total jobbers, because they get beat by people who are exhausted.
Garion still came out better in that exchange and Kali had a surprise attack while Garion was talking, meanwhile Zena wasn't really even all that fazed by the battle.
Not to mention that Garion wasn't aware of EGOs existence and what it could do.
That, too, there's a lot of extenuating circumstances. Zena came a lot more prepared and consequently seemed, at most, frustrated that Roland, Binah and Gebura weren't dying immediately. And Zena and Baral weren't even really trying to kill them, they were mostly just stalling so the Library could be expelled.
>weren't even really trying to kill them
Does the Head know you're using their network to defend jobbing to two has-beens and a never-was, Zena?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it would turn out that, had Zena come alone, she would've just fucking died.
Zeno closes her fist and blows up the entire arena, you're out of your mind if you think shooting lines is the extent of her power
She was probably just there to seduce garion anyhow, not that it worked
You do know that you're a sweaty guy IRL and not a sexy hag, right?
Unsolicited roleplay is a marker of a Gankeridya community going down the shitter.
>replying to these dumbass avatarfags
You don't even understand what avatarfagging is, dumb newgay
Lurk 5000 hours before posting again
Constant reaction pic posting is avatarfagging, you moron.
have a nice day right now.
>One other Binah image anywhere close to the one I posted
>It's not even me
I repeat, you don't know dick about shit and need to go back
>urrr I only posted one this thread, I definitely don't do that shit every thread
Will you off yourself already, you insipid fat fuck waste of oxygen?
And you too with your strawmaning.
Oh no haha oh silly me look at me go, I'm roleplaying as a Brotherhood of Iron avatarfag now wheeeee
OH SHIT moron CALL ABIB
>play dumb haha epic trolled
Yeah, I think we're fairly done here.
>that's literally [making shit up and putting words in my mouth]
>either samefagging rat or a complete dumbass feeling attacked
have a nice day.
>suddenly went from talking to 2 guys to 3
Who the fuck are you, then?
all me bitch
You're retarded (also me)
>have a nice day.
>"posting a smug reaction pic of Binah while discussing arbiter powerwanking means he MUST be an avatarfag" is making shit up
>when you're calling some binahfag and avatarfag over posting one (1) (一) Binah pic in the entire thread
No, anon, that's what you're saying. If your only evidence is the surplus of binah pics in every other thread than you are somehow dumber than that vchud avatarfag and that's a real fucking accomplishment.
That's not strawmanning, that's literally what you're saying.
>>urrr I only posted one this thread, I definitely don't do that shit every thread
>Will you off yourself already, you insipid fat fuck waste of oxygen?
I am not your personal boogeyman gay.
>posting a smug reaction pic of Binah while discussing arbiter powerwanking means he MUST be an avatarfag
>Despite there only being 2-3 other binah pictures in the entire thread
Nah. Nah mang.
>Constant reaction pic posting is avatarfagging
bro, you are dumb.
I'm a sexy sweaty guy IRL
Just because I said this while posting musclebird doesn't mean I'm roleplaying as the musclebird
HOW IS THE PUNISHING BIRD POSTING ON Ganker?!!
You ask too many questions
Why didn't Ayin just hire Der Shotty and tell him to shoot the Head?
contract costed too much energy. Seed of Light was cheaper
red bro version when?
he has thumbs 🙂
Take a shower, sweaty.
I really doubt Roland 1v1d distorted Argalia for an entire week straight like people seem to think. It's much more likely the entire library had a big fight against the distorted ensemble and then Roland swooped in to pull Angela from the light, stop Argalia from releasing his desperation move and secure the kill.
the white days resumed as per normal so thats what? 3 days of constant fighting?
It would be a full week, they recollected all the light and then redistributed it, not just distributed the last 3 days Angela stole. The sequence of events as we see them is
>angela begins releasing the light
>distorted ensemble is unbooked
>we fight them in-game and beat them up
>once beaten argalia start's releasing a last resort attack
>roland swoops in and interrupts it
>short scene of him fighting argalia while talking to angela about how he pulled her out of the light at the last minute
It just seems a lot more natural here that Roland swooped in, saved Angela and then killed Argalia rather then fought Argalia for the entire week like people seem to think. Makes more sense that either the ensemble were only unbooked near the end of the week or that the librarians were fighting for a week while Roland's stuff was at the end.
Red Mist Prime fought 2 claws, an arbiter and an entire facility (which may have had the Qliphoth deterrence turned off) of abnormalities all at the same time WHILE protecting people and she killed them all with the exception of the Arbiter being effectively dead but not quite.
Don't start this.
She's not a fixer anymore :^)
Neither is Roland :^)
This shit is why I can't take Gebura or even general power scaling in PM seriously
Why? It seems pretty established that Red Mist in her prime is meant to be one of the most powerful entities of the setting.
Even then, it was still only 2 claws, an arbiter and abnos. The Head probably has at least 25 arbiters, god knows how many claws, and who the fuck knows what else. It's not like she was invincible or could solo the city even with how stupidly powerful she was.
>at least 25 arbiters
source on that?
They told me.
Arbiters are people infused with singularities. Barring A-Corp's, that's probably one for each remaining district, with who knows for old singularities.
They use multiple singularities, we know that Binah at least has J and F corp at the same time.
He's basing it off of the number of wings, probably because arbiters use singularities.
Yeah but Garion used more than one singularity
The prescripts told me so
But both of the Arbiter's we've seen use multiple singularities which doesn't add up with one per wing.
I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to be one of the most powerful entities of the setting without also being able to beat the head/defeat the planet single handedly.
'One of' the most powerful, not 'the' most powerful.
Because there are no fucking rules. It's just "this person is the STRONGEST".
It's like OCgayry but with an official stamp.
I'm sorry that you can't grasp the concept of EGO and its literally, in-universe established infinite potential.
She's revered in legend for having been somebody to manifest an EGO before the White Nights and Dark Days, as well as being a generally quite heroic and noble person, and given she came from nothing, also an aspiring figure to other people stuck in the Backstreets. Is she literally the strongest ever? No, but she's clearly at least got enough to back up the claim of being "the strongest Fixer".
uhmmmmmm, actually Red Mist has a skill "the Strongest", so that means she's the strongest
Bro, it's ok if someone is stronger than lolan, relax
No one cares that much
Establishing a clear upper limit for powerlevels early on with a character who is in fact "the strongest" is one of the better things you can do for a setting, especially when said character also does get defeated in disadvantageous circumstances.
>create rules specifically so you can break them later
nooooo it's f/sn all over again
I think it's perfectly okay to break an established rule if it's done in a believable manner.
However, nasu is a fucking hackfraud.
oh i agree, the thing about fate was that literally any time they set down a setting rule it was so they could break it later
it only lasts for one *flip* unless i'm retarded
Doesn't every single mythology have a "THIS GUY WAS THE CHAD OF CHADS STRONGER THAN FUCKING EVERYONE HOLY SHIT KNEEL TO HIM" and they all have some tragic end?
It's nothing new
nah it was shit like
>there can ONLY be 7 servants per war
>j/k there's 8
>you can ONLY have 3 command seals
>j/k i have like 10
>this attack is a guaranteed instakill
>j/k if you have even a moderate luck stat you can dodge it
>stat screen tells you power rankings
>j/k it's literally meaningless
>these classes are bad matchups
>j/k it's an exception this time
>this class is bad at x
>j/k it's actually super good at it this time around
note that none of these are from spinoffs or FGO or anything, this is all the original vn
I'm fully aware, just saying that "this guy is the strongest but he actually lost" is one of the oldest tales ever
that's alright and i got nothing against it, it just has to be used sparingly
if you make every rule so you can break it later, even the lowest prudence agent starts to connect the dots
>this guy is the strongest but lost
In western canon though, it's usually them losing to underhanded tactics or because their own arrogance fucked them over. Samson, the goliath, and Achilles all fit the bill. Usually the survivors of the stories are the ones that are clever, rather than outright being the strongest like Odysseus
And that's a good thing
If the Head's enforcers could be killed by Fixers' strength alone, the setting would fall apart
can ONLY be 7 servants per war
>>j/k there's 8
This was never contradicted, Gil was from the last war.
luck is the ability to change your FATE/STAY NIGHT so it's useful against moves with destined outcomes.
You still get fucked by the curse if it hits you but you don't instantly die
>j/k if you have even a moderate luck stat you can dodge it
Wasn't Cu working under a Kirei command seal of not killing a single servant?
Imagine missing the point this fucking hard. The reason all of those rules were broken was because they were never actual rules of the setting or the magic system, they were the literal rules of the grail war which was made by humans for a specific purpose. The "rules" were broken because they were only every rules, you can break rules if you know what you're doing and the people who made the grail war in the first place are obviously going to install loopholes to give themselves an advantage.
No anon you need to take everything at face value you can't just read between the lines
Kali doesn't establish shit, if anything it gets worse the more they try to show how strong she was
I don't think colored fixers are that big of a deal, honestly.
>Roland says Verg is the most dangerous Fixer in the city
Did he mean, like... After himself, or was he just weird about it?
dangerous in the way an avalanche is dangerous. Verg has a good heart in the center of it all and because of that he could cause catastrophe in the city with his moralfagging
He'd job to Vergilius because El Director said so
>ryoshu on the coat
I always found it fucking weird that koreans use english as the primary written language sometimes. Especially when your audience is primarily korean
they find it cool
Those little twinks are getting me hard
'lol& is a Color' fags are borderline embarrassing.
He didn't say he's a color. He said loland could fuck up a color.
nobody is saying he's a color, they're saying he could kill a color (as he has)
>a HE abno
It's HE when the manager isn't a tard and looks away. In raw stat's it's easily in the upper end of WAW when you're looking at it.
Is this "roland verses vergil" shit some new brand of shitpost I've seen it in three threads straight now.
People just read the last chapter of Leviathan thats why probably
Wait are translations finally out or is it just more MTL shit?
I don't trust MTL in the slightest and wouldn't be surprised if some of the stuff people have been saying in the threads for months was outright wrong.
It's seriously obnoxious, too. As if we need these DBHispanic shitposts
Wait Verg lost to Schro? Really?
Schadman, my bad
No, Verg intentionally stared Schadenfreude down as he ripped it apart because he was THAT pissed off about it shattering Garnet's chrysalis
And that was AFTER he'd already had to deal with Jumsoon's dot bullshit
>Want to uptie and train different Identities
>Don't want to brick on XP tickets
sin-ku-lair my beloved
on the topic of schadenfreude. Have people datamined its stats when you are looking at it?
>The Abnormality has 800 HP and moves at an average Movement Speed. It has two attacks at its disposal: A single attack which deals 5~7 Red Damage to a nearby target, and an area attack, using saws to deal constant 2~3 Red Damage to the targets beside itself for a moment, stopping during the process.
Copied from the wiki.
The reason it's strong is just because of the atk speed rather than raw power.
manager bro, watch me turn this boarder wagie into paste
it's literally just a 3% increase dmg per clash. In this case it's good but you're very rarely gonna go higher than 4 clashes
every single time i've gotten a 10+ clash i end up losing
She WILL suck.
Her attacks seemed to have at least 2 coins so she's bound to be good just because of that.
nsault also has all 2 coin clashes but he still isnt very good at clashing
nsaults last two skills are good at clashing.
>but he still isnt very good at clashing
What? His second and third skills fucks shit up my man.
You can solo the MD with NSault, how the hell is he not good.
Skill 2 starts at 6 and gets +3 per coin, and his Skill starts at 8 with +3 per coin, he auto wins a lot of clashes solely off of that.
needy templar overdose
i want to use her but all the nail identities have sickeningly long animations
like ironclad retribution for rodya takes like 15 seconds to play out, its fucking irritating
The City operates on the rule of cool. Like memetically it's how it keeps itself safe from the bad shit outside. Whole reason it makes colours into superheroes/celebs
i cannot hope to stem the tide but i must fight it anyway
i really really would like things to not devolve into powerlevel wanking
powerlevel wank is the utter dregs of any kind of worldbuilding and brings with it the utter dregs of humanity who love nothing more than "my dad could beat up your dad" rants
please don't do this
My sinners could make better pizza than your sinners
honestly with how useless characters are without uptie (and levels, but that's not as bad as you can at least run MD with them) i don't even have any motivation for gacha pulls
16 threads/day anon, it's really not that bad
>he doesnt have 5 million shards from being a grindchad
Just what kind of gays play this game?
Uptying is there for a reason you moron, use it, if you paid for the battlepass you should have a shit ton of thread if you are not hoarding every single ego shard from every single sinner.
Even if you don't have the battlepass with the amount of shit we've been given you should have enough to uptie whatever the fuck you want.
I'm convinced that 3 sinner teams are the way to go
I'm betting they'll add an update some day that will let you keep action slots between battles
give me better defense options or faster scaling actions per turn so i can run solo reindeer ish MDs
THE STRONGEST FIXER
I love how this guy's such a nothing character but then Roland turns out to have felt like shit for killing him this whole time.
Probably because he was just a kid.
HE COULD SOLO CHADLIP AND COME OUT UNSCATHED
He might actually end up being somebody. Just imagine if the Panther guy at the start of Limbus was also Pete the Rat in Ruina.
here's your new power level technique bro
is the window the ring owned a singularity?
The window was something that let you see yourself going through another reality, like living a second life.
Once garnet got to use it in a fight, it probably was strong enough to be labeled as a singularity. Unless the window is something else.
I ask because they explicitly say the ring has a singularity so I have to assume the window is that singularity. If this is the case than yi sang's mirror tech must be singularity tier tech since its considered to be the original more powerful of the two
wait I thought the corridor was their singularity? I'm retarded
thats the thing tho is that neither the corridor or the window are stated to be the singularity
I think the corridor was the singularity
It was in the process of being called a singularity when Garnet disrupted/used it. Virgil effectively destroyed it all after Jumsoon distorted/abnormalized.
you are all dumb as bricks
BongBong is the strongest
>beat the shit out of troublemakers
>they beat the shit out of you
>go back to your booth after to finish their migration checkups
Are Wings really that chill?
Every Wing has its own rules. Follow 'em, you're good.
Wings don't care unless you're causing a ruckus or trying to find out how their Singularity works. If you pay taxes and keep your head low, it's like living in a normal town.
more like StrongStrong amirite fellas
Is Kromer 2nd phase evn weak to anything? I keep getting to it and then getting analblasted.
i think blunt is ineffective, pierce is endured and slash is just normal
You morons told me there was going to be a tiph sex mod, you filthy lying cretins
R corp IDs for Gregor and Outis soon
Paralysis removes the value from a coin right?
So if your sinner is paralyzed and the enemy is too, and they both use 1 coin skills with the same value, can the result be an infinite clash?
No, paralysis gets consumed after 1 coin is flipped and u are back to a normal clash after that.
Ah, I see, didn't know paralysis gets consumed. Man all the status effects got nerfed.
yea, if both characters had an infinite paralysis count
Got some a pretty good frame for bleed or energy here. Game is pretty damn fun but Outis/sinclair/Yi Sang don't have a niche I can use them for yet which is sad.
yi sang's niche is not losing clashes
>7 Yi Sang that low
I hate it, it's too cool and functional
>uhhh Nmersault doesnt have bad clashes
this tierlist was already exposed for being retarded
You get so much free currency in this game that this wasn't hard to get.
Zena beats Garion any day of the week
Favorite new abnos from Limbus?
DO YOU LOVE THE CITY YOU LIVE IN?
Pink Shoes, but also Der Shooty's abberation
Wait what was shooty's abberation? Did I miss something?
It's this one. You can also encounter it in ? squares
Oh shit I've never seen that before.
Damn he's cool
AIEEE HEATHCLIFF DON'T LOOK!
>I saw an arab on they way to the bus...
what the fuck would a boss fight with this abno even be?
this thing is all about killing itself
Kills itself and gives your sinners -50 sanity. The objective is to survive one round while everyone is trying to kill each other with their EGOs
>it kills itself
Easy peezy. The real challenge is trying to NOT let it kill itself. Like this guy.
DPS race, it needs several shots to kill itself, the black blood it splashes melts anything it touches, but only when it shoots itself, you need to redirects its shots to your sinners and get rid of the arms.
headless icythus is fucking cool and its design has grown on me. I have no idea what its trying to represent though.
Also impending day is cool but it being only teth was weird since its clearly strong as fuck.
it was being weakened by qliphoth right
it was weakened but abno tiers dont apply to weakened abnos. See the purple vine abno whos name I forgot being WAW
If you're talking about the calendar, it's HE.
I honestly cant wait for the railway paper boss fight
I hope if you fight these guys the boss does nothing but support the minions and spill coffee on you for 50 sanity damage
I DON'T WANT YOUR SHITTY WINE, STOP DISTRESSING MY GUYS
>boss forces your sinners to corrode
We get a little silly.
Ichty and Doomsday are pretty cool. Rest are meh.
>I have no idea what its trying to represent though.
Read observation logs...
>Read observation logs...
Ive somehow only seen it once after like 80 MDs
Here you go, then :
"name": "Headless Ichthys",
"story": "It has the appearance of a fish.n-Its head has been cut off.n-The cut surface is clean; it appears to have been done with a single-sided edge, such as a knife or a scythe.n-It exhibits motion in spite of the lack of a head. I am aware that whether or not an Abnormality has an intact head is completely irrelevant to its ability to show activity, but I will note this regardless.n-An inflated sack visible around the chest area. Could not make clear observation.n-Will note new discoveries in a future report."
"story": "A silhouette is observed inside the inflated sack around the chest.n-It bears resemblance to a flower, or the central nervous system of a human.n-It expands the sack to use as blunt instrument, and can squeeze it at high speed to expel liquid.n-Overall, the sack is deemed to be a major component of its attacks; quick destruction should prove effective.n-Will note new discoveries in a future report."
Thanks Meursalt. Very cool
>spoiler tags didn't get registered
Hurtily is probably my favorite but part of that comes from his music (or is it just counted as a minion of You Must Be Happy's upgraded counterpart? You Will Become Strong I guess?). I also love the Ebony Apple Queen. Game needs more WAWs and should be more liberal with the distribution of the TETH designation. The Crawling Inquisitors are not fucking ZAYIN according to the LC definition, that fits the Peccatula fine for the most part, but you mean to tell me the fucking one-hit kill hunter dogs are less harmful than the stoneface minions?
Half the gear in the game seems to be below the grade of whatever it's from. The queen creates HE gear, the doomsday makes TETH.
I like the apple a lot. Also a bunch of the random event abnos
So what would be each one's management and breach condition?
>have to do 40 reps with a 60kg barbell in under sixty seconds
>the amount of reps increases by 10 every time that specific nugget works with him
>if unable to beat it, counter goes down
>forces clerks to work out which eventually makes them go mad and attack nuggets
>will beat the FUCK out of a nugget at lower than IV instinct
That really weird girl with the doll who looks like an evil Japanese spirit but speaks like she’s from Brooklyn
>pulls out a comically large set of scissors
>harmlessly snips your dick
>heals you for 35HP
>kicks you out without explaining why
what now sinner
>expect every option with her to end in pain after my first two encounters with her ended in pain
>just playing along and letting her win has her be a good sport about it and give you a present
I still can't believe this shit actually was that straightforward
a classic mistake
>Tourist Town robotic Nothing There
The rest are all good/fine, I don't think there was one new Abno design that was overtly bad
Why does switching in an ego attack redirect the target? How does it even decide what to clash with?
I would overall agree with this based on character accomplishments
Red Gaze with ego*
Yea this seems like a fair and not facetious list otherwise
Eh, Vermilion Cross might have been stronger than Argalia, he was fighting with all of Reverb Ensemble after all
Even the Purple Hag noped the fuck out of there when they came for her
Yeah, because where were 10 of them.
That's because the Vermillion Cross was definetely stronger than Argalia, on fighting skills only though.
The director himself has pointed out that Argalia was given a color solely because of his vibration skills and the fact that he has S+ charisma, that's his specialty.
How does his vibration help him with charisma? Does he just "vibe" with other memers?
His Bussy vibrates so damn hard he fucks the brains out of whoever he wants to charm, he's basically Griffith
Claws that low
bald ruina man > the other colors
>killed by his own briefcase for losing to a BongBong
Jokes aside, these dudes seriously just felt like an advert for Ruina
white fixer is so cute bros...
I wonder who they are.
Are they EGOists? Because exactly none of the shit they have is standard issue for Fixers.
They aren't real
They're the only safe spaces where a man or woman can live without fear of syndicates cutting their eyes out for late rent payments. It's only natural they'd be exclusive.
>teleports behind you
>slows your nugget to a crawl
>hits them with attacks that deal fuck tons of damage
better have pale shields 🙂
today i will post it again
Hopefully not. Way to downplay a previous entry in this series.
The fact that Vergilius can manifest EGO already puts him way and above Roland in the power scale, i don't know why we are even discussing this shit when we know just how stupidly strong EGO is.
It only came up because one guy doesn't like how EGO turns the setting into dragon ball
not that i agree but people will argue that roland beating the pianist a 'waw' tier distortion means he's above vergil who struggled to fight schadenfreude without caring about the other elements around those situations
>Vergilius needs to figure out the gimmick behind schadenfreude and how to use his new EGO at the same time
>lol& just has to cut the pianist's hands and head
I like the funny sandwich man but wanking him this much is a disservice to the franchise and his character in general
hes so cool bros..
Funny how we as a Manager have enough info to deal with that Abno better than Vergilius did.
Really puts importance of intel gathering high up. Roland was probably highly required.
>Funny how we as a Manager have enough info to deal with that Abno better than Vergilius did.
And the capacity to rewind time, and an infinite amount of fodder to feed it with and experiment to see how it works. In my case one of you guys just told me what the deal was when I got like half my facility killed because I didnt stop looking at it because I was doing my best trying to guess what its deal was.
Nah, I was talking about the other manager, the X, the A
I really like Roland but I'm not one of those powertards. I understand he was pretty weak compared to the colors except blue reverb maybe.
maybe, but just for anyone's information, saying that roland beat the pianist because of the gloves silencing his music is almost certainly wrong because roland(forma de garnet) got full blasted by the pianist and still killed him
>unironic powerlevel Hispanics
Okay then, how about taking into account that not all abnos/distortions are fight oriented?
Of course a fixer is going to struggle more with say Nothing There than Silent Orchestra if they were to try and 1v1 it.
There's obvious rock paper scissor match-ups, same way some WAWs like Red Hood can kick ass harder than some ALEPHs.
Now fuck off and stop the dick measuring contest, Roland self-insertfag and Virginiusfag.
EGO on its own doesn't mean shit. There are plenty of EGO that aren't actually that strong, Moses couldn't even stand a chance against Vespa let alone a color.
I still think Vergil would win, but because of a mix of being a color, having EGO and whatever that sin power stuff is, not EGO alone.
DO YOU LOVE YOUR CITY?
Why did this machine's manufacturer build only models that will have severe negative defects after 5 uses? Brain surgery machine causes spontaneous explosive head syndrome and body surgery machine's surgeries will do the same thing to the whole body after it revives them 5 times.
Nobody ever said the creator was a sane or well thought out man.
It's more that the machines are flat out defective.
well it does say it's only if it's all within the same day
It’s an Abnormality, you do not question its creation but instead what it represents
It was even supposed to talk to you in Ruina before being scrapped
Oh so I guess this puts You Must Become Strong into Aberration territory instead of being a completely new Abnormality?
Yeah more than likely, DO YOU LOVE THE CITY YOU LIVE IN was the main implication that it’s a relative of that weird ZAYIN left behind in Lobotomy Corp
I don’t know what its rank is, but Aberrations are supposed to be weaker than their counterparts, so the fact that You Must Become Strong is, well, stronger than You Must Be Happy is a anomaly in itself I guess
On that note Limbus is running pretty far with Aberrations, I thought those would be left behind in Wonderlab
>Ebony Queen / Snow Whites Apple
>Pink Shoes / Red Shoes / Girl who represented Karen in the original story with her missing legs back in Wonderlab
>You Must Become Strong / You Must Be Happy
>Everything There / Nothing There
>Father Nurgle / Fairy Festival
I wasn’t big on them at first but things like You Must Become Strong eased me up on the idea
Aberrations are pretty cool when done right.
Now if you have the blue riding hood and the dog from wonderlab shit takes a turn for the worse real bad.
Honestly, wonderlab should be erased altogether
>A WOLF IS ABOUT
Literally only spark of kino from that whole thing. Probably shouldn't of made the guy blue and the artist thought the mask was the mouth but in terms of abberants it's pretty par. Shame he didn't get to rip some clerks apart.
I like the idea of Wonderlab but there was some stinker ideas floating around. Personally I still think Wonderlab is worth a read even if it go downhill.
I thought blue smock was a cool way to do the boy who cried wolf, although "reddened buddy" is a shit name
>Now if you have the blue riding hood and the dog from wonderlab shit takes a turn for the worse real bad.
These guys were cool they just had the worst, most uninspired designs out of anything in WL
I like that we're seeing them alongside new abnos as well, like doomsday clock, Alleyway Watchdog, Headless Ichythis, so on and on
I like the aberrations a lot because it feels like a good amount of effort was put into making them actually be and look cool despite being derivative. Like the skull apple is such a good design.
I just call them all abnos because they're effectively different things even if they're supposed to be subspecies.
Is You Must Become Strong really "stronger" than You Must Be Happy though? You Must Be Happy upgrade a person body to make them stronger. To the point where the body will just outright explode if you do it too much. Also in lore it can basically heal and improve people in many ways. You Must Become Strong is either a machine that make immortal toys until you press the button to turn it off or as the name implies is meant to be a training program that naturally improve your fighting strength. I feel one is more useful, quicker and generally more powerful as an item. Become Strong could in theory make an immortal army but the toy people doesn't really seem to follow orders or really do anything aside from bullying whoever happen to be there. Excuse me though if I am wrong on something. Keep forgetting to read the story and the game for some fucking reason have no way to get the info on the main menu anywhere.
I may have misworded myself, as I meant to say that in a way that suggested that an Aberration should generally be less dangerous than their counterpart, but it’s ironic that Become Strong is a menace that churns out cyborgs that beat the shit out of people vs. the original Be Happy, who just sits around and flips a coin to lobotomize a patient or make them cool
You Must Become Strong is goofy looking, but the story logs make it clear that the elite units it pumps out are deceptively tough despite being made of plastic, and even if you kill one it’ll keep coming back to life by repairing itself and reviving the human host inside it, so it can definitely snowball out of control, perhaps a Singing Machine situation where a toy soldier cracks your head open and drags you to the machine to be thrown back out as a cyborg, your personal stats deciding your make and model
ah, fair enough then. I have to agree it a lot more brutal in comparison.
Yeah but you’ve BECOME STRONG
>Bootleg version of an existing Abnormality throws up what look like bootleg toys
I see now
>where do you work out
>at the roulette table
The fucking music tells you it’s brutal off the bat
Put this on my workout playlist right next to Work Harder from LISA.
YOU MUST BECOME STRONG
YOU MUST BECOME STRONG
my name's not natalie
>but Aberrations are supposed to be weaker than their counterparts
Not always just usually. Remember Titania was an Aleph
Not every abno is representative or generated from people's thoughts.
Well we not 100% sure on that, only thing we know is that not all Abnos came from the well and the Black Forest is a place.
Do we have a source for the Black Forest existing outside of Angela's monologue at the end of LobCorp? I feel like we do, but I don't remember.
Where did all of these dbs Hispanics come from?
Is it safe to assume there's not gonna be another Gregor or Meursault 000 in Season 1? Kinda surprised how people are already converting egoshards to thread.
It's not safe all, hoard until the season ends and you will get half your shards as thread anyway
Waiting a few months for the thread conversion and carrying a decent chunk of shards for the next season is the right move
There's Rhino Gregor that has art made for him already, so he'll probably show up in the next month if I had to guess.
So how good is janny don? Worth using over Shidon?
janny don is extremely good, rip space is one of the highest damaging attacks in the game
easy to get charge with, too
Can someone link Anon's MTL of Leviathan chapter 20? Thought I had it bookmarked, but I didn't.
Gotcha covered friend
Man, how exclusive are the Nests? Even Roland couldn't get a transfer permit as a color.
He wasn't a colour and he was being cockblocked as a smoke war veteran.
roland wasn't a colour
he couldnt because he's a smoke war veteran, not because he didnt have enough money
Virgin stated that roland probably could have gotten permission to live in a different nest if he just decided to settle on a different wing
He was blacklisted by that guy he fucked over
Vergilius tells him it should be easy for him to go to another Nest and be accepted
Roland wanted to retire, why give a retiree a free pass to your nest? It's not like it actually benefits you.
If he was willing to sign a contract and become a wing's personal fixer like Sieg he could probably get in fine, but if not then all he has to offer is money and a wing already has more of that then they'd ever need.
Even a retired Fixer can be useful during emergencies and such, I think they could have stricken a deal
He got a nest migration ticket before that happened so clearly it's not impossible.
We need more of vergil correcting the sinners
black isn't a color anyway
black is the result of all colors being combined, therefore the best.
is there a practice mode yet? I want to test sinner setups
Mirror dungeons have a practice test that costs no modules.
best you can do is simulation mode in mirrors
You can play any stage but give up at the last moment and you'll only lose 1 energy
3 fucking gigs for a phone game. Is this typical of the gacha experience? How the fuck are you people living like this?
pretty well considering i'm neither a storagelet nor a download speedlet
I'm never again making fun of secondaries for getting filtered by lobcorp if we get fucking tertiary retards getting filtered by a goddamn installer
Why not make fun of both?
>top end is probably like un-deterred alephs and the Head
Anon... the Head is probably a few tiers above that. The dude is on some super funky juju.
I'm mostly spitballing because the 'top-end' stuff is largely hypothetical. Power tiers also sort of are kind of only vaguely useful with abnos.
>3 fucking gigs
Huh? Actual storagelets? In 2023? IN MY Ganker?
>He thinks 3 gigs is a lot for a phone game.
You reek like a boomer.
>He doesn't have 128+ GB in the year of Ayin 2020+3
That's pretty typical, yeah
No idea why you're having a frenzy over only 3 gigs though. You a storagelet or something?
>Uninstall because you're intimidated by a <4GB file size
what level of retardation is this?
phone games have evolved quite a bit in the last few years, gramps
i have 256 gb in my phone, how old is your phone my dude.
I have 128 gigs. I can download and fit it, it's the principal of the thing. I'm not downloading a downloader. And I refuse to believe this game actuality needs that much space.
the game is almost entirely voice acted which is where most of it comes from i imagine.
>picks up phone game
>sees it requires space
How do you know how to breathe
This is almost as good as the anon that got filtered by Today's Shy Look
Average for a phone game is about 4-7 GB or so.
>played with someone's 000 ryoshu
I need it
I NEED IT
character vs character powerlevels are cringe. We have rough bands of power that characters fit in to and anything beyond that is a matter of matchups and ingenuity.
Yeah, you have tiers, and some can hit above their weight. Top end is probably like un-deterred ALEPHs and maybe the Head themself. Bottom-end is Rats.
The Head could stop a full L release, per Adam's hypothetical plan. Even if it meant a few Districts being glassed.
If the Head wasn't the ultimate powerlevel cap, we'd lack a reason to fear them (in narrative)
It's hard to say if the Head has actual personal ability, or simply just has access to so much Singularity tech that they can just exert full control over the City, so I'd honestly probably class the Head as "probably an outlier because we don't know enough yet".
Pianist was already on upper end of WAW or lower end of ALEPH undettered, while they are definitely very strong I do think people oversell abnos a bit relative to fixers and the Head's goons.
director said pianist was between WAW and ALEPH yeah? and he still managed to destroy an entire district's backstreets and kill 300k people or so? and the Crying Children, WAW level at best, managed to wreak havoc in a nest somewhere and kill 90k? actual ALEPHs could probably kill millions. i have no idea how anyone plans to deal with something like Blue Star or Melting Love in such a populated environment
Actual ALEPHS could definitely kill millions before a hit squad of colors or something puts them down. But you have to remember, in the city killing millions means you've at most killed a few % of the city's population. Mountain is kind of an exception in the sense that it'd basically be in it's ideal environment and possibly evolve into a 4th form that's boss-abno tier.
The mountain will actually be smiling if it got out.
>mountain with the city's population to munch on
>Mountain gets out
>M Corp just becomes Mountain Zone
>We don't go there
>Just ignore it
Just like Bionicle
Yea, I don't think Alephs are created equals. Nothing There will still have to travel though it would be a one man army that will keep evolving. Compare that to Blue Star that would just act as a black hole in a general area until dealt with. I do agree just due to how it works Mountain would easily be the worst for the city unless Sweepers decide to help or something.
>the meatball actually gets a chance to do something
I wouldn't even try to stop it. Poor bastard was such a pathetic piece of shit in LC.
Always amaze when people act like it literally stop their whole progress and force them to reset back to day 1. Aside from maybe Blue Star I see it as the most freebie Aleph personally. Just don't let shit hit the fan.
BS, meatball, NT, Army, etc., pretty much everything except WN and CENSORED are freebies. Never give up, never surrender.
I stuck with NT when all my others were TETH and I was richly rewarded.
Yeahhh, I suppose that's fair. Pianist also had the advantage of nobody expecting it to happen. I do wonder what, for example, a hypothetical scenario of Apocalypse Bird being fully unleashed would DO to the City.
Yujin(forma 100% poder) could solo an arbiter
That storagelet reminds me that I need to buy a new 6 TB drive tomorrow at my computer shop.
And maybe replace my main 500 GB drive with another 6 TB drive, too.
I like the +1 flip skills in the free 000 yi sang ID
makes me feel a nice sense of stability
Salsa Yi sang feels so bad to play with and his sfx are fucking garbage. Granted he wins more clashes than he should but barely does any damage even uptied at III and lvl 30
canonically did we kill any K corp guards? Man I'd feel shitty
nah. K serum kept reviving them
Technically no. But you DID kill inquisitors.
None of the inquisitors were used as fuel for Mephi. The need of fuel hasn't been stablished after the first event.
Maybe if I unlock Charon announcer she will throw a like about it. But I doubt it.
Being used for fuel is kind of irrelevant bro. You killed all those bug people in the L corp branch remember? And all those mariachis and stray dog wannabes?
K Corp guys were invincible because they got shot with HP bullets every 3 seconds, and then Siegfried killed all the Sinners so they didn't care anymore. Inquisitors are 100% dead though.
Roland can cook better than Gebura therefor: Roland > Gebura
The REAL power ranking I gotta know is the average strength of HamHamPangPang staff
Is that a Limbus Company reference??
>Blue Star's Abno Page isn't earrape every 3 turns anymore
Woah, when did this happen
>meanwhile Lowell just buys a migration ticket
is his pelvis ok?
lowell can buy a ticket because he isnt being beurocratically cock blocked like roland was
still found it kinda weird that Roland never found out that it was Benjamin's fault that the smoke war thing ever even happened
>still found it kinda weird that Roland never found out that it was Benjamin's fault that the smoke war thing ever even happened
what? Why would he care about who started the smoke war? Regardless Im pretty sure dias did most of the middlemanning for A+B
dude got major ptsd from it and his involvement in the smoke war was what got him locked out of immigrating
Yeah but Lowell was fucking Xiao
bro your yujin is on literally negative hp
spam EGO pages, you should have the emotion built up at this point
just lolnope Da Capo cancel when they charge their big guns
I can't spam EGO pages because I just now realized that netzach's floor actually isn't realized yet lmao whoops
here's hoping 10% hp heal per turn for 3 turns can save my dumb ass
I would go for the anti stagger abno though.
if I don't get that golden motherfucker's page after this I am gonna be extremely pissed
Man, you may want to farm that stage 2 or 3 times more for gifts for your nuggets.
Are the passive gifts in that fight actually worth it? Are any of the passive gifts worth it?
>Are the passive gifts in that fight actually worth it?
Are any of the passive gifts worth it?
You get more silly nicknames for your nuggets, that's the important part.
Not really, they so hard to obtain and so minor there is almost an encouragement to forget the whole thing. I honestly don't blame anyone who just mod them in.
Their effects are so minor you SHOULD mod them in and play dress-up
my pp hardening
I actually grinded the shit out of rip space just so I could get the hat, cause I'm retarded
It at least helped my minamimoto nugget look proper
>I actually grinded the shit out of rip space just so I could get the hat, cause I'm retarded
I did so all the Yesod's team could have the hat.
>not using Yesod's floor for the Request free books
i'd love to cheer you on manager but i think you're fucked
even malkuth's floor can do good here, nothing wrong with a 4th match flame opener on a second wave to thin the herd
A rare breed
>played the previous games to 100%
>still cant remember where I heard that A corp enforces contracts at claw point
did I make this shit up or something? Someone please tell me they remember this being mentioned somewhere
They enforce patents but contracts was never stated. That's a thing fixers handle and you even have entire offices specializing in it.
Arbiters are only sent in the most extreme occasions, the claws are indeed sent to deal with whoever hasn't paid the taxes.
Claws enforcing patents is mentioned in one of the books in Ruina, either Full Stop or one of the workshop-related dudes.
Thumb ID when? I need to see guns (even if it's bayonets) in the hands of our Sinners.
I hope we get Don as a Thumb id and she comes with her tongue already cut out.
Ryoshu chapter. Since we will probably get into a scuffle with all the fingers. Though I suspect we will get Middle, Ring and Pinky before Thumb and Index.
The best part is that if we can assume more Hell Screen imagery, she's probably murdered people from all five Fingers to create some nightmarish piece of art, but I can guarantee you that the Pinky probably is only furious that she won't do it again and make another masterpiece.
that would be the ring
thanks for the (You)s I was merely pretending
I'm also one of the Well Cheers shrimp. This is what I do when I'm not standing next to a vending machine.
I thought you guys lived on a boat?
Have a good one, faggy
I knew, but the prescripts must be followed.
Does anyone have that old rolling image of the prescripts you could get? I'd like to see what my fate is.
Do you mean this one?
I believe that's one of them, there could be hundreds of variants tbh
get filtered, gay
It's about dwive, it's about powew, we luv cockwaffle, we devouw
First we have powerlevel fights
Then we'll have "But can a space marine fight against the head, what if Roland gets sent to the 40k universe?" autism.
We need to stop this shit before it's too late.
anon... we already are in 40k universe
the head is strong as fuck marines don't stand a chance.
>But can a space marine fight against the head
Head easily wins that fight, try something stronger like the Emperor.
can claws beat spess mareens?
asking for a friend
It's already too late and you know it
It was already over when they announced a gacha.
space marines probably get mogged by grade 3-4 and up
Did /tg/ ever stat Lol&? also we could blow the fuck outta most 40k shit given Singularities are nothing more but Warp tech
What system would you even stat him in? I guess GURPS can stat anything, but still.
What's lol&s anal circumference? Did Angelica aver peg him?
I think assplay would be rare in the city given how asexual everyone is.
Shit, good question
uh, something more theme fitting or power level fitting?
Well, gimme an answer for both. I know a few systems, but can't really think of anything that isn't universal or rules-lite that'd really suit a PM-style.
pm style is pretty non existant. with some reflavoring SLA Industries might work pretty well, though it favors guns a little too much and the overall tone is mega 90s. Best for low-mid power levels.
Kill Sector is even more aggressively 90s but has an extremely open character creation. it is also geared for one shots or short games.
Rouge Trader is in the same bin as SLA, though it needs more reflavoring in exchange for slightly more correct game feel.
Tenra Bansho Zero could work for grade 1 to colors on the edge of ego or distortion with heavy reflavoring. will post more in next thread.
I don't care for beeboy, he's somehow more anime than any other character and I can't place my finger on why
>he's somehow more anime than
>Genki sidekick who shovels food down her throat and constantly cheerleads her boss
>Literally a teddy bear being piloted by a starry-eyed mechanic
>Excessively rich villainess who has done everything except literally give us an "OHOHOHOHOOOO!" laugh
What are you talking about
You're right, I think my brain might have censored those two from memory
>Excessively rich villainess
Dias is not a villain, she will clearly save the city from it's downfall, everyone should die for Dias plan.
Ayin has already saved the City. Dias is unnecessary.
Incorrect. Ayin was never out to save the City. He wanted to give humanity the power to do it themselves, which puts him closer to biblical God than a mere Messiah.
I want Dias to actually succeed in getting a group to try and overthrow the Head, and even manage to kill an Arbiter or two, only for the Head to show up, do ONE thing, and then they all immediately die.
>Dias kills dozens of Arbiters and obliterates some portion of the Head's HQ
>For the first time since the City's foundation an actual threat to the Head has occurred
>A thunderous, deafening trumpet sounds, the sky explodes with blood and fire and the surrounding landscape is immediately incinerated, anything that can survive this hellfire is drowned in a literal flood of blood, 1/3rd of the invaders of District 1 are killed instantly
>A dramatically louder warning signals to the masses to turn back, resonating in their ears and compelling them as a divine force
>Dias moves forward triggering a second, thunderous trumpet, which again massacres 1/3rd of the remaining invaders, causes every one of their vehicles to be thrown into the sky and into a massive volcano-shaped pyre and all be incinerated
>It just keeps progressing like this until they're all dead
>Heads send out their last resort
Damn it would be disappointing if the story climax of the setting ends up the traditional JRPG 'Kill god (and his final form) with the power of friendship!' schlock
I'm confident Director would never do that.
Would you prefer that or it getting AOT'd and the city is just an isolated place from the rest of the world being lied to? Not saying those are the only two options, just curious what people would think
I'm expecting some form of "The City is actually not unique and there are at least a dozen similar cities on the globe, however the outside of them IS detrimental to human life by a disastrous degree but I'll be content if it's not the case at all.
Definitely the latter. Not specifically the AoT scenario, but a well reasoned motivation for why the Head setting things up this way pointing to a far greater threat beyond the outskirts or something.
Good sequel bait as well.
I can already see it tbh
Something like a mega qlipiloth deterrence field surrounding the City and some of the Outskirts powered by the emotions and traumas of a captive population, the world outside already ended as chaos wastes. What little abnormalities and distortions we've seen being what little minnows that can slip through the barrier compared to the kaiju-size horrors that await if the Head is overthrown.
It's probably going to be "dethrone and kill Carmen with the power of friendship!"
The whole game been about power of friendship though if said literal it be power of emotions. Like the setting is just: what if emotions effect the real world like it does in anime? Would hate it but if the end if just JRPG God to kill #29574 then I can't say I'll be surprised.
Honestly what I did, stats were meaningless but some of them were too nice to not use.
>Udjat slaves are on Ganker
GET OFF OF THIS BOARD THIS IS A HEAD AFFILIATE DISCUSSION WEBSITE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I didnt know the Udjat had access to Ganker.
damn, Yi Sang looks like THAT?!?
>as soon as he gets expelled his hair goes J U S T
Poor baby bee
>Gets curbstomped by a mecha furry.
What was the deal with that guy? Edgar, right? I forgot how he was able to just tank the Pale Smoke.
So why did K Corp let N Corp fuck up a bunch of its citizens? Fewer prosthetics = more health serum sales?
Not just that, but Sinclair made a huge mistake when he leaked that his father was making a big deal with P Corp. That probably put the town and his family in K Corp's crosshairs.
>index meursault representing blind faith and following arbitrary orders for the sake of following them
>thumb outis representing absolute obedience and bootlicking even if you secretly plan to backstab
What Sinners would fit best for IDs from the other fingers?
it writes itself
>Middle is about family
>Ring is art freaks
>Pinky seem to be pariahs
I mean, we have Kurokumo identities, and so, Thumbs by proxy.
They're just a subsidiary, they're pretty different from the thumb and have their own culture independent of the thumb, they just have to follow the thumbs orders or get beat.
Did the SoL plan even succeed? It seems like hardly anything has changed. "Disease of the mind" is still rampant.
>he lacks fAith
It wasn't about making people good, it was about giving people the drive to change their circumstances
Well the implication is the original Seed of Light plan wouldn't have worked in the first place, the City would've just integrated it and carried on. Angela fucking it up and Carmen hijacking it sort of ended up meaning that, in a way, it DID disrupt the City. We've yet to see where things really GO after LoR, so who knows for sure. Golden Boughs seem to be a remnant of the Seed, and they're... Certainly MacGuffins.
Ruina had a ton of parts where roland commented on characters not being like themselves
You can see it in Ruina. Almost every one of your targets had a dream and gave a shit about other people, because they were affected by the Light that Angela wanted to gather.
Angela did say something along the lines of ?the seed is planted, we dont know when, but it will bear fruit eventually", so it may take years, but change will be seen.... mostly in the form of hundreds of Distortions and dozen of EGO users that are Color tier, maybe.
The real redpill is that L. Corp is not different that any other Wing in this story. They all do horrible things "for the sake of humanity"
L corp did nothing wrong
Angela* did nothing wrong
>L corp did nothing wrong
Neither did W. Corp or T. Corp.
They made the world better with teir tech.
Fuck you. What the hell has F corp done wrong?
Fairys are dicks.
Honestly, I can't get over how they just destroyed all the branches. That's honestly just insanely brutal. More than that, I am honestly surprised we don't see more Branch Agents with EGO.
>Hopefully nobody has to suffer today
>Except all the people we are going to bury in all of our other branches, but don't worry about that right now
What did A mean by this?
Part of me thinks thats due to Angela's fucking about. Technically there was like a three day all out war going out down there.
None of the Corps care for the world, the difference is that Lobotomy Corporation had a a benign purpose other than perpetuating its existence, hell, the culmination of the plAn was for it to cease to exist along with those on top. You need sacrifices in order to reach a goal.
You cant make a world spanning omelette without breaking a couple trillion eggs.
>None of the Corps care for the world
They don't? Do you know who is the person of charge of every other Corp and their inner monologue?
Who are you to say that every other Wing is not being ran by their own Ayin?
>reading the end of leviathan ch20
>rolando and gayze are having a friendly little chat
This is fucking great. I don't want to use the word kino but really nothing else comes close to describing the emotions it brings out.
I think Ive found a solid comp for actually difficult content:
LCCB Ish: Gluttony, Gloom, Pride
Blade Lineage Yi Sang: pride, wrath, envy
LCB Sinner Sinclair: pride, wrath, envy
N corp Rodion: Pride, Lust, Wrath
LCB Outis: sloth, pride, gloom
With this setup and all egos you should be able to use an ego attack every turn. Ideally you rush out impending day so sinclair can start producing shit tons of sin
where did you even test this? thread luxcavation?
3-17 is what Ive been using as the baseline since its 3 waves. If you have ryoshu 000 (I dont) you can use her over outis and then trigger both her passive and 4th match flame's passive for her super easy.
Outis and Salsu Sang can win clashes pretty easily, Sinclair too i guess, but the rest i just see them getting staggered unless you have 4th match flame available at the start of every round
N corp rodion never loses a clash and sinclaire and yi sang are pretty damn good clashers too
My n corp rodyon loses about 60% of her clashes though that's only in MDs. I havent had the chance to use her anywhere since content is so limited right now
I havent been counting but Ive seen her bulldoze through MDs, never once seen her staggered. Her 4th just beats everything and her other two skills have 2 coins
Maybe just a skill issue on my part but i'll be sure to try out that composition when new content drops
next meta will be about resonancemaxxing anyway
So uhm, since the After Team came up and injected Danted with K bullets, they mustve went through the tunnel, right? There's still a possibility that they found Saude before she died and gave her HP bullets, right????
>Giving a glorified clerk HP bullets
LCB would never.
I basically see Lobcorp and the post-Ruina City as entirely different settings. As much as I enjoy the way the city is depicted it's a really far cry from the suffocating, almost constantly oppressive atmosphere lobcorp painted. It's hard to take stuff like the disease of the mind seriously when the city as we see it is filled with goofy shit like the maraca gang and people seem to just live normal lives but with a higher chance of dying randomly one day. I can somewhat cope with the idea that what we see is the post-light city, which is probably why I dislike wonderlab and other stuff that depicts the pre-light city so much. Maybe it's intentional and the disease was always meant to be carmen's delusions or something, but that takes far too much away from what made lobcorp so kino for me to accept it.
You're a fucking dumbass gay with garbage opinions and your taste is shit. have a nice day.
I'm doing my prescript btw, sorry
To be fair Lobo was located in a Nest right, Nests are generally safer but often have their own layers of bullshit stress to deal with.
I mean that's kind of what I mean, even when we do see people in the backstreets it's mostly living normal lives. More violent and likely to get killed by someone being a dick but that's hardly uncommon in places irl, it feels like a far cry from "people have lost their hearts".
>He didn't see the shanty town outside K Corp where people were desperately trying to jump people for boarding passes to get the fuck out of the backstreets
Again that's kind of what I mean. It's doesn't feel like some omnipresent despair affecting the city as a whole, just that some places are nice and some are shitholes. IRL but with double-brazil instead of just brazil. The disease of the mind sounded more like you'd be empty inside even if you had everything good, while sinclair for example seems to have lived a perfectly normal and happy childhood until kromer showed up.
Not everybody had that pervading apathy. Party of why Gebura got to have EGO so soon is she was a total carebear.
It didn't affect everyone but it seemed like it would only be an extreme minority who weren't. Even some of the Sephira (malk I think) talked about how it was like the entire world was grey prior to meeting carmen.
>the disease was always meant to be carmen's delusions or something
It's a bitter pill but this is the truth. Even in LC Carmen was always manipulative like killing herself to guilt Ayin into using her brain as a source of cogito
Roland's backstory showed there were always good neighborhoods in the backstreets where you can live a decently normal life barring any piano-related incidents
Roland DOES also mention that the Light has definitely changed people, though. It's unclear what exactly that all is though. Maybe it's just given people some idea of there being a future worth fighting for, etc. Or Carmen just sort of whispered to nearly everybody in the moments when the Light was released.
If I had to say, it's that people have more hopes beyond just living. Basically, rather than just living a monotonous life, they have something more to live for and expect. It's not just about clawing your way into a wing for safety, or bashing someone's head in so you can get something to eat.
What the light did was to give people hopes for the future yeah, they have dreams now, aspirations. That's why all of the guests of the library have a goal even if it's something meaningless or outright fucked up, like Pete who just wishes to become a finger equally nastier or worse than the ones that already exist.
Right, makes sense. Seems a bit... Weird that people didn't have those before. Or at least, I guess, fewer people did (obviously Carmen did, and Ayin by proxy). Wonder if it's just some sort of effect that was on the City itself that the Light broke or something.
A lot of it really comes down to people being too focused on surviving and living. A dream is just a dream. There's no point in it, doesn't help pay the taxes and all that. So people put it down or just never had it. If you noticed, the work in the city tends to be pretty soul crushing and you always have to worry about some gang.
We're also on a tour-bus though. We're not stopping in the bumfuck backstreets for anything other than Mephi's midday snack.
The disease of the mind is the Head. Carmen is anarchist in nature and want to destroy those who are in power.
idk, the part in leviathan where rats casually mention that beheading is out of fashion and would get at most a C from the ring's art gallery, and one of the graders casually murdering some guy because his art wasn't up to snuff twice seems pretty cruel
I think he's confusing the parts we see that are residential backstreets and nest with the backstreets proper.
I'd like a proper trip at one point through the parts of the city where there's no electricity or water access to see the real shit that goes down.
I mean, we've seen shit like the Rats in Ruina. They had barely anything and had to resort to harvesting organs from random dead bodies just to get by. It's definitely a wealth thing, too, like, the rich and well-off seem to live pretty comfy lives all things considered.
The disease of the mind is a real phenomenon that exists in our world as well. Think about it. Why is it that you always see things that make you miserable online more than anything? We are losing our humanity to the algorithms
Because I'm always online. I lose just as much faith in humanity offline as well, I just don't experience it as much.
Remind me of the deal with the rat utopia experiment. Even if you support everything and give all of the food you need and keep the area clean, etc there is a point where the population quit caring about breeding and living and kinda slowly die off even if the population hit a critical low. Like the idea that there is a breaking point where people will think a given way with no way to go back or fix it.
>mfw The City is the rat utopia experiment
How many L Corp branch offices were there anyway? 25, I per non L Wing district?
BABA YAGA IS COMING
>baba yaga is coming
>your team is base yi sang, base meursault, zwei sinclair, g corp outis, and lccb ishmael
Tomorrow i'm gonna grind exp. fuck that fish
>Fuck that fish
I intend to
please can we put these threads to rest until the next major update/news?
there's been pretty major news daily for the last week it feels like
There's always going to be some fag making a thread
And I'm always gonna be the fag that posts in it
The eternal curse
I'll never make threads, and I won't directly encourage it
But I'll always indirectly encourage it by posting
And I'm gonna be here making funnies and also posting 😀
If Faust is so smart, how did she manage to end up like this?
>he thinks smart people don't end up deranged racist shitposters
My friendly anon..
I've got news for you, buddy, They don't.
Intelligence and wisdom are two different things
we're reaching critical levels of cultural phenomenon
it's up to mods at this point
Is there like a list of abnos that bug out Backwards Clock? I know it doesn't work on like WN and midnights, but what about like non "event" abnos?
Was kiting around NT while building up boxes so I could erase like 24% penalty on Blue Star. But when I went to rewind, the animation plays, the agent just fucking stands there and no abnos are suppressed. It lets me throw more people in there, but it causes the same thing.
>anon cant read
Never used the clock personally, honestly have no clue how exactly it works. Felt if I ever fuck up to the point where I need a "stop this" button that wasn't pause or rabbits then I may as well just retry the whole day anyway. Doesn't it eat a high tier agent just to be able to be used?
Yeah, it isn't good, but it works well sometimes, and you might as well if you're planning to mem rep regardless. I was trying to crank out blue star and Tiph 3 (beat day before meltdown 7) in a day before mem rep updated on me.
BIG GAINS? FOR REALSIES?
boundary before the thread dies
I need to stop sitting in these threads and play more Troubleshooter
I need to get back to that game one day. Been ages. Can't even remember if I really liked it that much, but Irene was fun.
Haven't even killed king monkey yet...
Let my final words be: Featuring Dante From Devil May Cry Series™
YOU MUST ROLL 4
My wife Hod
My wife is so cute
Boundaryfags are the morons of PM threads
Us sinclair bros are the chads of the thread tho
Go fuck man ass
Boundary and the thread instantly prunes
Boundry and Sinclair becomes my wife (male)