your opinion on the OG designs in Lob and Ruina? And this particular character?
Limbus company
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i want to fuck her pregnant
malcute
malkuth is alright i guess
Post Roseate Desire pics.
is this from the one where she's getting fucked balls deep by heathcliff?
No she’s getting fucked balls deep by ME
Fresh from the oven.
Why is Malkuth such an ethical slut?
is there an abno page or something that makes boundary actually consistent or is it really just funny big number card that doesn't work 75% of the time
I loev Laetitia a lot
During one of the day 40 dialogues Angela says "like the black forest in the outskirts" when talking about places where the river touches the real world and abnos can naturally emerge. I think there might be somewhere else it's mentioned too but I can't recall.
i thought the black forest was a really obvious metaphor for the city/the head to be honest my fampai
>we're scared the bad thing might happen so let's raze everything to the ground on the off chance it might spawn something kind of bad
>assigned to binah's floor specifically
let's face it, the head/the arbiters are just Reapers from Mass Effect
It can be both. The abno backstories are part of the concept of the abno together with the abno itself so depending on how long the physical black forest has been around it still fits as a metaphor for the city in the birds backstory.
I don't think it's a metaphor at all. The series has plenty of them but the physical location seems to exist in the world, regardless of how it came about. Not all abnos are spontaneous.
The game drew inspiration from series like Warehouse 13, where items that were at the moment of a critical event would become artifacts that possessed power (e.g. bomber glasses from the pilot who dropped the nuke on Japan, which became able to replicate the destruction he witnessed, or a bloodstone used for rituals that gained the power that people who had originally used it thought it to be for). I imagine there are tool abnos that are very similar in this setting. Doesn't even contradict it coming from human ideas and the collective conscious type thing, because it's human perception that granted the objects their power.
ehhhhhhhhhhhh maybe but the idea of
>"protection" with good intentions goes wrong and turns into rampant murder
is just too goddamn on the nose for me to think that they're simply actual birds in an actual forest
it's *possible* i guess but given el director has been fairly on point with his references and metaphors and such it would be extremely strange to me if the black forest was simply just that, a dark spoopy forest with evil birbs in it
the whole point was that they were drawn from the collective human consciousness, and i really do think it was not a coincidence beener got them as her floor realization in ruina
The birds are based off the head. That much is canon and a fact, the director confirmed this. The Black Forest is most likely a real location simultaneously, though.
Maybe Black Forest is another name for the Head's HQ.
It's in the outskirts
okay, i'll buy that, but i think the black forest existing is of secondary importance to how we've seen it presented
we might visit it even, we might see how spooky it is and we might even see some birds in there, but i think the more important takeaway is about their relation to the head's form of government, rather than a specific forest of monsters
Yeah that makes sense.
>Black forest
>Scoured black by a nuke 984 years ago
>Final use of WMD in city
can't get killed by monsters if you're all dead by nuke, amirite?
some would even consider it a mercy
I was specifically talking about tool abnos becoming abnos after previously being regular objects. I don't think it's that farfetched to think that You Must Be Happy was just a genuinely made machine before it got counted in as an abnormality, especially considering the ridiculously oppressive and controlling state forces in the setting that will casually wipe out a whole street of people because someone handed them nice food.
Pretty sure Big Bird was drawn before LC was even conceptualized, the original artbook had it at the end. The thing is, even if it was later retconned into being based off of a perception of some idea in the setting, nothing about that precludes it from being a real creature that existed prior and was twisted into an abnormality. We already know people and animals can just turn into them. Who's to say that some birds in the forest didn't just get abno'd and physically exist before? LC does mention that some abnos are captured outside and dragged into containment.
LC says all abnormalities were created with cogito by L Corp. None came from outside
>but director said some did
Definitely retconned, everything since then has only ever shown abnormalities in LC facilities or the library
LC in of itself is unreliable as all of the stories and info given to you was basically fake. It really depends on who is taking and how honest they were being can you really take anything on the game at face value.
All the stories are fake, but Binah explicitly says that all the abnormalities are created with cogito and she's the one in charge of doing it, so seems legit
>director
LC said that some were caught from outside and that some roamed the backstreets.
I don't think there's any reason to discount spontaneous abnos or the black forest, not all of them got pulled up in a bucket.
The stories are all bullshit the info team makes up, everything in the facility came from the facility
There might be actual monsters like the birds somewhere since the abnormalities come from humanity's collective conscious, like how a lot of abnos are based on common fairy tales and shit, but the actual birds in the game were made in the facility
Well they had to be, otherwise the abno extraction picking screen wouldn't make sense.
I disagree with this
though, especially considering that it seems that there's no certainty as to if these are even the "originals" or not.
what do you think extraction means and what do you mean by originals?
The stories aren't true events that actually occurred, but they are true for the abnormality in question. Yesod doesn't just make shit up for the fun of it, though where some of the info comes from is questionable. Maybe it gets extracted alongside the abnormality itself and the information team sorts through and selectively censors that info where appropriate, weirder stuff has happened when it comes to cogito.
to add up on what you said, the artbook says that we get information of the abno from the positive boxes. Its safe to say that affinities, ego and stories are from there.
>>but director said some did
to be fair, the guy doing the TL didnt know what director meant by "outside"
Leviathan also shows that Abnos can spawn out of distortions under certain circumstances
Lobcorp outright stated that abnos can exist on the outside, it's just very rare and the ones in the facility are extracted there. Director later said in an interview that a few of the abnos in the facility are from the outside but didn't elaborate.
I like to think Forsaken Murderer is one of the outside ones. Extremely early stages of distort and just never got there. Like Philip with lance level of distort.
ah my bad i don't think i looked far enough back on the reply chain, just the one linking to the previous thread
my argument holds for the birb trio but i would not extend it to things like the tools, though i do think a lot of them are metaphors made physical
something drawn from the Well aka the collective human unconsciousness could easily have a physical form, we're scared shitless of wolves and shadows thrown on the walls of our caves after all, it's not hard to imagine something that is both metaphor and real
Embarrassingly it was only recently I learn 1.76 MHz was talking about the smoke wars and not like WW2. The static/smoke it creates suddenly make a lot more sense.
Well yeah, why else would Fairytale be an entire category of them, but I still think they can be found outside for some, or like the tools, be created from certain events that influence humanity strongly.
all i can say is we just don't know
i would imagine it's a mix, it's just things that have strongly influenced humanity over a long period of time
which is why we have fairytale abnos and also magical girl abnos and also vending machine abnos
i also realize i'm just repeating what you said at this point so maybe i'll drop it, i am netzach levels of drunk and am fairly sure we have deviated from the original point of conflict
I've been playing Lobotomy Corporation and she seems like a bitch. She is cute though.
That apply to all females in the game. I assume you mean Angela which depending on how you relate to her you will either understand her in Ruina when you get there or just grow to hate her even more.
i wish i could say i don't understand the angela hate when most of this place has a huge boner for revenge fantasies, especially the kind of
>you fucked me over and now i am going to take back what's mine
kind
but then i remember angela is a girl and not the MC of the first game therefore her revenge fantasy is bad and wrong
Lobcorp's artstyle was what got me to try it years ago. I still prefer it over Limbus and Ruina's, although there's nothing wrong with either of those.
I kind of miss when this series was mostly about the abnos too. They've taken a big backseat in the games after Lobcorp. But eh, if it's still running then I'll take it.
Same, I do want more of Lobo and the chibi art style was oddly charming. Love the fan art of just people personal favorite nuggets.
I want Meursault to sit on my face
To my bros who reached level 60 of the BP already, do you get anything past level 60 for completing dailies? And if not, what's the point of having a task that specifically tells you to get to level 60 give you BP points?
1 nominable shard with no BP
3 nominable shards with BP
grind grind grind motherfucker, get those free 000s and EGOs
shards or boxes?
Our shards hide in METAL BOXES THE COWARDS THE FOOLS
3 boxes, average 6 shards
Even without hardcore mirror dungeon grind just doing your weeklies and dailies and a daily mirror dungeon will net you something like 4 000s or EGO worth of choice shards by the end of a season if you have the pass.
you get 3 boxes that give choosable 1-3 shard every bp level? or its 1 shard per box
the former
3 nominal shard boxes. I'm not grinding and instead just waiting for the event to spend my measly 70 modules
>see friend on steam playing it
>steam chat them
>butter them up and tell them to read the source books, play director's other 2 games, and buy the battlepass
>repeat
source books?
you know, the books all the sinners are based on?
i also shill DD and leviathan, but not wonderlab, if i do, i tell them to read with little expectations
https://mega.nz/folder/xosDkZ5Z#Wt4JpUt5Bb2XG77pxuuXpw
Thanks for the link anon.
You're welcome, I recommend Hellscreen and The Wings. They're both pretty short.
if you don't convince them that you actually can save Yuri when they start their first fight against apple, you're a bad friend.
>ryoshu will never straight up murder you in a non-sexy way
this is the fucking thanks i get for uptie 3 star huh
If by the end of Ruina you still hate angela then you straight up did not understand the game and need to restart
This. Liking her is another story, though.
there are a lot of genuine autists here who have trouble understanding anything that's complicated emotionally
Why are Angelafags so starved for affection? Isn't it enough that you like the bitch yourself?
see
now go play the game again.
I don't give a shit about the hecking roborino, I played the game for Roland and the lore on the City.
god i love angela
I love angela too!
I never hated Angela.
Even before LC got a retranslation, it was pretty clear that she was shunned and hated by her creator for no good reason and it didn't affect her positively. Besides, she was cute as fuck and the face of the game. The only time I kind of wavered on it was when she was bullying Chesed.
do we tell him
Not the part where she was psychologically torturing Gebura by killing everyone who gave a fuck about her?
I understand her and see why she did what she did but she still piss me off. He may as well be a totally different person by the end and I can like that version of her but does that magically excuse her being a massive bitch before though? I'll allow her to redeem herself but until then it only fair to dislike her for her actions up to that point. If I recall even the librarians didn't fully accept her actions, just open up enough to allow herself to explain herself and see what she does next.
>when she was bullying Chesed.
She was just following the script. All of the script moments I can forgive her for. She was simply doing what she was told.
>but does that magically excuse her being a massive bitch before though?
i think it does considering what the alternatives could have been for someone placed under those circumstances
her tantrum was pretty fair all things considered
I think the people who don’t get her suffering just don’t understand how big a million is. She suffered in there for one million years. That’s more time than every person on earth combined right now has lived. Of course she’s pissed off.
>That’s more time than every person on earth combined right now has lived
uh anon you might want to check your math
prudence 1
I think the thing that stuck with me the most is the fact the MOMENT she gain her freedom she choose to use it to watch the world fucking burn. I can relate to that, I'm a very petty person myself. But to put in all of that work just to fucking throw it away instead of seeing what it was for just seem stupid to me and selfish beyond belief. That is the key moment that cause me to hate her.
Also there like a billion of people on earth right now who lived for at least a year of their life. Your math a bit off my dude.
Even before Library I feel like she was aware that the world itself didn't want her. Isn't a big point as to why she is doing what she does in the Library is to make it so she would actually belong?
Actions not justified btw
I fucking love Angela as a character but also dislike her as a person. I find that having characters like that is what distinguishes a great story and a okay one in my eyes.
I never hated Angela
Me too
>This low-Prudence take
You're supposed to hate her because her ridiculously selfish actions caused immeasurable damage to the City and tons of its residents and denizens. She spent literally the entire game basically saying that it was all justified because Ayin made her suffer and she didn't care about the City's denizens anyways. The point of the game is that when she realizes she's a complete sociopathic monster and decides to actually do the right thing after realizing her closest friend was actually also there to kill her, she's still horribly flawed and still has an insurmountable hill to climb, but she's going to try to do the right thing and put herself on a road to redemption. Shameless Angela simps literally miss the part where her atrocities aren't to be simply ignored. Actual Ruina fans recognize that she is going down the right path and will earn her love in due time, but not yet.
>You're supposed to hate her because her ridiculously selfish actions caused immeasurable damage to the City and tons of its residents and denizens
I wouldn't care about any of those shitheads either if I was Angela. Burn the world to the ground. Why would I hate her for lashing out? I didn't know any of those people. I knew Angela. The City is a vile, shitty place that only needs to exist because humanity would be extinct otherwise. Most of the residents seem to barely get from day to day or live in fear of getting kicked out of their Nest if they managed to luck into one.
2 prudence ass bro
It's not prudence, there's nothing stupid about not giving a fuck about the bazillion miserable citizens that got killed in a crapsack world of death and suffering. Crash it all and start over as ruler.
No, fuck them. I would react the same if she were a male or even genderless AI that communicated solely throught text and a smiley face. A-boy should have thought about this before he neglected it.
2 prudence ass crab mentality bro
The world in this setting is not worth saving, and people are already treated as expendable fuel or fodder. It is not an exaggeration to say the world literally runs off of human misery and pain in this setting. Fuck the City. Not everyone cares about the masses of randos killed in a land where the average life expectancy would probably be under 35, sorry mate.
This view has nothing to do with the real world you brainless 4chan gay. The City is legitimately one nasty, fucked up place even going by Korean standards.
>prudencelet still doesn't get it
>ummmm why should I CARE about anyone anyway! I can just make The City with blackjack and hookers!
It's got nothing to do with politics; its the same retarded mentality either way
No, I never said remake the city. You're a fucking retard. I said burn the thing to the ground. I don't place much value on a city where you're likely to be able to purchase clothes made of human skin and the valued Nests are just richfags trying not to get kicked the fuck out into the backstreets full of literal cannibalistic psychopaths and monsters. Once again, fuck the city, let it burn. There's no need to build anything on top of it. The world at large is fucked and cannot be fixed, let the supernatural deities and monsters duke it out until the end of the world.
>let the monsters win
cuck
Hard to not "let them win" when the world is 90% monsters. They just don't give much of a reason to have hope for the world in this setting. Your average joe in the city would happily behead a baby if it let him get into a nest for 2 months.
I'm not in there, I have no reason to have such a thought. Again, I was just saying that any "damage" she did doesn't make me hate her, because the setting cements that the world in it is worthless. I don't see why I should hate the character just because some people that were already in an absolute dystopia met their ends.
then die in a corner by yourself retard. None of what you said has anything to do with Angela either. Now stop projecting your manchild babbles on to her and LIVE
>I said burn the thing to the ground.
but that would kill people like aya and yuri
>Crash it all and start over as ruler.
She has an entire ending devoted to that, and you still didn't get it.
>I would react the same if she were a male or even genderless AI that communicated solely throught text and a smiley face.
No you fucking wouldn't.
Farm corp probably has a post-scarcity way of making food but it runs on orphans or something
Close, everything that requires an amount of time greater than a few minutes runs off harvested time from W corp. (hundreds of thousands of years of situations like L-O-V-E T-O-W-N but without the tommerry
Thing is they never produce meat, in fact they were never changing. Tommerry only look how they did because the doctor added meat from others into them. While the setting is a place where something seemingly can come out of nothing the W corp train doesn't seem to be one of them, it only distort time and the people were fix up and had their memory wiped.
Well yes but the point is the whole eternity on the train is going to be full of suicidals who are tearing eachother to bloody pulp and can all feel every second of it. That suffering, agony and specifically time is encased and used for very mundane things like growing crops, running a microwave faster than three seconds for some ramen etc etc.
I'll have to take your word on it, I don't remember if the time was used like such aside from the faster train arrival itself but it sound like shit they would do.
Yes, yes I would. In fact, I've literally done that for certain series.
Hell, even in Etrian Odyssey Untold, I still think M.I.K.E. made the logical decision to nuke the Yggdrasil Core, even though in the end your bullshit tree magic friend helped you solve it. He's not only a male AI, he's also completely faceless and only represented by a battle robot defending his CPU.
If her entire goal is to finally be a human so she can experience humanity, and all she does is constantly subject humans to misery and agony on a scale unseen so far in the world, she only deserves the same misery and agony she causes to others to be inflicted on her. Stop being a retarded simp.
>on a scale unseen so far in the world
You were right on every point except this one. How do you think Humanity got completely HEEMED to begin with?
>having any kind of morals for the city when you've spent 1 million years in an underground lab and don't know a single thing about it
the point was she learned about the city throughout the game and the existence of other peoples struggles, which she had zero experience with coming into ruina
you are not "supposed to hate her"
That is exactly what I was saying you retard. I didn't say that you have to like her, only that continuing to have a hateboner for her after the ending when she clearly regrets what she's done and wants to undo it is retarded. You can still dislike her as a person, that's a different business.
>waah, I, a machine made to do one thing has to do that thing!
>Better fuck up man kind by stealing everyone's hard work
>oh man I'm STILL not happy?!
I hate her
Ayin was in the wrong.
Ayin did nothing wrong
ayin did a lot of things wrong, the whole point of lobcorp was ayin coming to terms with all the things he did wrong
these are not synonymous
ayin had to be a turbo autist, right? there's no way he couldn't have seen the consequence of his actions otherwise
>nishikuji
stay
When's he distorting?
never
he’ll never pull a kankan after working with PM
i love the semi amvs of lobcorp and ruina with that artist's pics in them
Wait is that Demian on the Sinclair shot? And this was done a year ago?
Ligma trailer had Demian show up
?t=110
Demian is visible in the OP, complete with the mark. It was pretty obvious to people who had read the book who he was going to be.
red shoes > pink shoes
is it advisable to memrepo heavily and roll for easy-peasy TETHs to prepare for the Lobcorp endgame?
I've been using base Ryoshu and i fell in love with her. Is her seven section ID good? its the only one i have
>i fell in love with her
>falling in love with a fictional character
do waifufags really?
not in the literal sense but as a DPS heh
I fell in love with Jesus Christ.
yes
it has two 1 coins but her skill 3 is one of the best in the game
>I CLOSE MY EYES AND SEIZE IT
>I CLENCH MY FIST AND BEAT IT
>I LIGHT MY TORCH AND BURN IT
>I AM THE BEAST I WORSHIP
YOU'LL HERETICS DON'T EVEN SMOKE ENKEPHALIN
>I'VE SEEN FOOTAGE I STAY 'STORTED I STAY 'STORTED I STAY 'STORTED I'VE SEEN FOOTAGE I STAY
>Have to manually install limbus updates since wifi won't download them at all
I'm gonna go insane eventually doing this.
Post your favorite lines from Lobotomy Corp Before they fixed the translation
The only iconic line is the bear one.
Kino
For me, its WARINING
The info team didnt make up anything, all they did was expunge data. The stories are true ONLY to the abnormality itself, such things never happened because the abno didnt exist prior to its extraction.
Yeah, the "info team makes it up" is just a joke, but the stories aren't true events, they just represent whatever the abnormality was based on
>there's no certainty as to if these are even the "originals" or not.
They're not really the original anything, they're just based on common experiences or stories or fears or whatever
Like a lot of people have fucked up Christmas experiences so here's a fucked up Santa monster to represent that. Or everyone's heard a fairy tale so here's a fucked up version of it
Huh, haven't read that far. But that's at least after LC still
From the way it looks, yeah it seems like Abnormalities are ideas and archetypes. I also believe there could be an ‘original’ thought. For example, 1.76 is a smoke wad abnormality, because the war collectively affected and traumatized humanity. That was the original basis. It’s probably possible to track some abnormalities to an origin point.
Distortion detective and Leviathan support this by showing how there can be ‘common’ distortions, such as mermaids and bloodfiends that represent the same desire. And how at one point, Schadenfraude spawned from a distortion that met its end, implying that other distortions of that same ideal could also advance into Schaden. We know that multiple individual abnormalities can exist too, so it all checks out.
I've been stuck on 3-17 for weeks lol
If you seeing a lot of hopeless/bad-favor clashes then use leveling tickets. Recommended levels are no joke and not only levels effect attack, defense and other raw stats but also directly buff the enemy if you are underleveled or buff you if you are overleveled. Chapter 3 final boss require you to be 28-30 for an easy time though some had done it as low as 20-ish though they may been pre-passive fix that cause bleed to not work on it. Likewise uptie 3 1 star always better than a star 3 on uptie 1. Play smarter not harder if you haven't already.
how? are you just refusing to try new team compositions?
>weeks
got stuck for 4 days. But that was when MDs gave tickets. just grind lvls and bring blunt dmg
what went right?
Guys
what is this face trying to convey?
That she's going to swallow Sinclair like an eclair+
Yes, vore. Or unbirth
>In the observation notes for the Lust Peccatula, Sinclair mentions the gaze of it reminding him of someone
>It was Kromer
>Its also the reason Kromer transformed the way she did since it was based off of what Sinclair viewed her as
Kino
She's guileless and passionate, but she's no Moses.
I love Moses!!!
imagine
Manhandling Moses...
>5'1" hag with a raspy voice from smoking all day, who smells like pipe tobacco, and weighs almost nothing
Vespa got to eat her arm and not me, so I will never forgive Director-seonbae
God I hope the DD game comes out soon.
Since I want to see Moses in a schoolgirl outfit.
>Lobotomy Corp
Great
>Library of Ruina
weak but original
>LimbusCompany
a fucking gacha game on mobile meant to squeeze microtransation and probably a fucking finale to this fine franchise, Its over bros
Finally, I can stop farming...after three more MDs
shut the fuck up retard
>farming now instead of waiting for the event
bricked
if i dont get an even amount of 0s on the BP my autism wont let me sleep
10 for the BP and 10 for the monthly lunacy things
How much money you spent on it you no life virgin? Gacha addicts should be shot on the street and all their possesion taken and repurposed for normal active members of society
>squeeze microtransation
Pass aside I don't think anyone spent money on the gacha itself unless they choose to whale early (likely just want to support the company) or wrongly thought 3 stars is automatic power. Currently the game have so little to offer I feel it might shut down due to not being able to pay for it own upkeep. Like themepark jokes aside do anyone here choose to spend money on the game aside from pure pity of wanting to see it to be successful? Like is there anything worth to spend money on?
I feel like a lot of people at least bought the battle pass or one of the "Lunacy every day" packs. That's 15-20 bucks so basically what the price would be if it wasn't FTP
I still don't understand the devs focus on Ruina battle system. Its like they already didn't know how to handle the card system in the previous game (unlimited cards and replaybility grinding or early attack cards being useless after new levels) but now they just ditched cards for the sake of gacha addiction gameplay loop. Why not just make a fucking Lobotomy Corp game? Is like they are ashamed of their first breakout game?
Kim Jihoon unironically likes auto-battlers and wants a game where the fights play out like in a shonen manga. There is a QnA where he brings it up I believe.
I don't like a lot of his ideas but I gotta hand it to El Director for having such a specific vision for his games based on his tastes and the shit that he finds cool. Feels very authentic.
found the Q&A in question
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jFFdZmE9vEyyr8Ub81pM6ANIEVul3P_dOqItYDRG4Qo/edit
Is Kim aware that his franchise is going downhill with each new game?
lobcorp did not have a battle system
lobcorp had a deathball system with occasional micro if you could spare the time
while i enjoyed it in the confines of its own game, i do not think it would transfer well to other games
i think ruina did a bang-up job in translating abno quirks to a completely different gameplay system, and managed to develop a complex gameplay system with room for plenty of bullshit
The problem is the fans of Lobotomy didn't want a different game mechanics just like fans of Total War don't want a Metroidvania game. Al they had to do is adding their fancy artstyle to a new manager sim and add resources and improvement tree with story sutscenes
I'm somewhat disappointed with limbus's combat not for being too different to lobcorp but rather for being too similar to ruina. Even if the clash system is cool, I like it when devs try out new things.
Speak for yourself. You can be a fan of something and love it and be totally fine with what comes next being brand new. I enjoyed ruina tons, best early access experience in history. Going back to another management sim is w/e to me, I have no strong feelings. I just replay lobcorp if i have the urge to play lobcorp.
Spoken like a real consoomer of everything a company squeeze out of the butthole. Do you own t shirts with Marvel written on it?
I own t shirts with project moon written on it
>wants the same thing over and over and over
>calls other people consoomers
El em ayy oh
>Hey i liked this simulator experience gameplay
>NOW It's a tetris game? Cool!
>NOW it's a racing game? cool!
no it's shit
I'm gonna play the 3d hack n slash action adventure game and enjoy it, keep seething about it.
It better be about a rogue Claw or so help me.
>he wants a claw to go rogue
Your imagination sucks. Also totally not possible.
I'm the original anon you replied to. The other anons already said what needed to be said, if you want the same game with a fresh coat of paint because you like the same flavor that much just leave me alone. I'll be enjoying my dungeon crawling, city simulating, beat em up PM games.
I'd love a 1st person dungeon crawler in this setting with abno FOEs or the like but it's never happening. Too niche a genre.
You might personally disagree but a game like that with tank controls and slow walking speed with tile-like steps with PS1-like graphics would be amazing imo. I might just be a sucker for crusty graphics on horror-like games/sims.
LC2 will also probably be the new schizo management game, even if it's a different kind of management. Ruina's mechanics were great for the game it was trying to be, and Limbus mostly copies it but Limbus also isn't trying something new. It's the worldbuilding and money generating side project while they work on LC2 and other spin offs like the DD VN (which I really hope we start learning about soon-ish)
Wouldn't mind a Rimworld-like Lobo game where you truly feel like a manager. Departments exist but characters just don't just sit in the room until told to do something. I know mods exist for Rimworld but never try them and doubt they would even give me what I would want anyway.
Alt timelines. That Meur is what if he did went full all into N Corp.
man I'm so sick of rimworld and games like it
it's my own fault but fuck
Yeah I want a game where you can build the facility from start to finish, piece by piece. It’s not the same, but Lobotomy Station 13 is pretty fun if you want more of LC.
Going by the short brief we got LC2 seems like it will be similar to LC in the "sent your agents (fixers) to work on abnos (distortions)" with different results depending on different skills and gimmicks and choices, but probably won't have the same strafing-combat.
I just hope they do stick to making it more management and it doesn't end up being 90% combat just from a top-down perspective this time.
despite the gameplay being completely different, I really enjoyed immersing myself in Ruina. It was a very memorable experience for me. Nothing like lobcorp but that's to be expected. Limbus I started being very skeptical towards, then I liked it, and now I don't know how I really feel about it.
I just want a Lobotomy Corp stratege/manager game with better graphics and more mechanics like maybe handling morale and money resources Like more civilians dies the less money you get for improvement. And improvement would help defending against stacking abnormalities powers and maybe we would also get attacks from rival companies trying to sabotage the rooms.
But no we get those Ruina and Limbus sad stories with edgy characters and stone paper scissor mechanics
On the topic of abnormalities, can we talk about what the Limbus abnormalities' archetypes are and what they represent?
its pretty hard to say
All I can really say is that everything there thematically reminds me of social chamelion sociopaths but I dunno
They represent spent dollars in gacha gaming
The only lore we get from them is the sinners notes so it's a bit hard
I'll get back to you when we get actual lore for them that's readable from the menu somewhere
I feel like the only abnormalities that we truly know about is Pink Shoes and Everything There, since we can infer to LoR and LC for some of their bases. But the new abnos like Headless Icythises and the Watchdog are impossible because of how scarce the info they've given us.
And what info we get is ruined by Meursault half the time.
Meursault's dry analyses are refreshing and clear. Doesn't give much insight into the story of the beasts but it sure does paint a more vivid picture of them than "EW GROSS IT LOOKS LIKE A BUG oh sorry Gregor honey not like that"
Which one he did? I like the multi headed wolf though it got super theory crafting at the end of it. Believe Hong Lu did that one iirc.
He did the fish.
Fuck, keep forgetting to read that one, I think I have the full story unlocked by now.
>Everything There
the HE cousin to Nothing There, is there more to it?
all abnos come from the human experience; the river of humanity. Everything there being an aberration of nothing there has some implications about what aspects of humanity it's from
I really think the peccatula abnos are fucking lazy and I hate that they showed up in the story
I don't really mind it since it does makes sense. The light basically opened up alot of city people's desires, and with desires comes the 7 sins.
>The city is Eden
>the apple is the Light
>Ayin and Carman are Adam and cEve
>Embracing the light (knowledge) and sharing it with the world allowed humans to desire and live, selfishly, selflessly, honorably and unhonourably
Director is a genius
right but there isn't really any gimmick or unique thing about them, while in lobcorp pretty much every abno was interesting
What abno is legedermain supposed to be of
maggoty apple
fapple
You didnt see the giant apple?
It looks like a complete sphere
should I even use this over his base ZAYIN stuff? The HP Regen basically lets him solo the headless ichthys so I haven't even considered touching the legedemain yet.
out of curiosity, what lineup are you using that guarantees near constant base ego usage?
Liu Gregor, Tingtang Hong Lu, base Outis, base Faust, and then either base Ish or base Rodya depending on the fight.
The passive is what makes Gregor survive, the damage is terrible on it since it's so reliant on hitting heads.
Is hong lu absolutely necessary for the ego per turn or can I substitute him for someone else?
The other green ego is teth so you can have both. Apple ego does aoe blunt, pretty good against certain enemies and does nice damage, also its easy to spam.
Which other green EGO? I just have his base one and this new ZAYIN one that takes the slot.
Lantern, Teth one I think is what they refing.
By HP regen i thought you meant lantern ego lol, i never used the hp regen from his base ego. But try it out and see for yourself how it works, even if its not good for your comp, it shouldnt be run ending.
>Gregor gets the apple EGO
That's fucked up even for Project Moon standards...
Dunteeeh...why aren't you doing your dailies and weeklies Dunteeeh? I can see your list isn't even halfway finished.
Carmen
>You HAVE to love the hecking robot
Angela cucks are as lonely and love starved as Angela herself. I don't hate Angela, I simply don't care about her.
Nobody is saying that you have to love her, only that you didn't understand the entire point of her story if by the end of it you still have a ridiculous hateboner for her like magnetfags do. If you don't, then don't worry
what the fuck is your problem? why do you hate her for no reason like ayin?
where does the city get its food and produce from? There doesn't seem to be much space within the city to have farmlands much less pastures for animals. Are they all underground?
food making singularity. angela mentions it in LC
>have tiny agrarian facility growing all manner of vegetables, harvesting animals and preparing Hispanices and crops
>use time harvested from warp train to instantaenously grow all of it to peak condition
>harvest it all and start again
>all this takes place within eight seconds on a constant rotation
Certainly a mystery.
The whole deal of the city is that there's 26 megacorps with miraculous, logic-defying technology. Where food comes from seems like a pretty clear cut case.
>There doesn't seem to be much space within the city
Other anons answered the food question but the city is fucking massive mate, like small country sized at least.
Longpig, wanna try some?
Not going to lie, was into Super Auto Pets for a hot minute and look for other games like it but single player. Only ever found two decent ones that met my standards. Vivid Knight which is decent but quickly become just repeating the same thing but with everything made harder and longer. And Automon which is a shitty looking Pokemon Parody but pretty much the closest you can get to a single player offline Super Auto Pet as a game.
Angela is a very cute soulless vending machine.
DIE
for me its
I wish Limbus wasn't a gacha game
It is now time for me to distort, good day
manager get the bullets, anon's jacking off to flower thorns again
I HATE FIGHTING ANTS AND WHEELS, THEY LOOK LIKE TRASH
Utter to me what you think the ideal is
Me having enough money that I no longer need to work
black women (female)
It's soft, blonde and you can cherish it forever.
It's Alice!
f*rmers.
>captcha: HARD0
So... what causes that a character can take two actions per turn in Limbus?
Yours? Not fighting anomalies.
Yes, I need to know what triggers that, or else I have to hope against Kromer.
Did you not read the tutorial?
Against people, you get one more turn per turn for a random sinner. Against anomalies, what you start with is what you get.
I think you get turns if you start an abno battle with less than 5 sinners up until you have 5. Can't confirm though.
I don't know if it's the same thing where you get one every turn or if it caps by sinner number, but you definitely do get extra turns when you bring 1 only sinner into an abno fight.
I like them
As for Malkuth, actively don't care. Same with Hod, I even prefer literal who's like the Zwei girls
Well that was fun.
Time to watch the other endings to Ruina.
I got bored before fighting all abnormality versions of Angela. Card battles weren't as fun as stacking the difficulty in late game of Lobotomy Corp
They would earn more money making a dating sim visual novel spin off like Sunruder devs did. Anything better than gacha mechanics and vitrual currency. It feels like early 2010 again but made by a small indie company and not Ubisoft and EA
so here's the real question
will ligma company be an entirely personal quest to solve dante & co's issues? or will it progress the greater narrative of the city itself? or both, they don't have to be mutually exclusive
>nefarious philospher
What's his end game..?
both probably.
they way they're setting up a bunch of different factions make me think the latter. chapter 2 was almost entirely worldbuilding. but so far it's been entirely character focused and is definitely going to be front and center for most of the story.
We know that One Limbillion people die at the end of the year 985, which is one year from the Limbus present, so that’s probably gonna be their fault somehow.
>the sinners are responsible for the deaths of millions
something about that seems morbidly funny for some reason, feels like an Always Sunny title card
>Devastated city backdrop with countless people being pulled into BS
>Dante and the gang looking up at it in horror
>”What is that? I’ve never seen anything this powerful”
>”Yeah it’s like some kind of-“
>Intro music and title card:
>THE GANG CREATES A STAR OF THE CITY
They would be dead. Dante would probably be dead. Verg MIGHT not be dead.
You think these tards have white damage res high enough to survive fucking Blue Star's pulses?
I mean library is directly responsible for at the very least 380k deaths and nobody gives a single fuck. It's hilarious how bleak this setting is
who the hell is having kids in this setting to replenish the hordes of corpses
Edgy cyberpunk dystopians don't make sense
africa/india/china. No matter how bleak, humanity fucks
how the fuck do they survive to adulthood
Babies are created through a singularity and the claw delivers them to his parents, they cant refuse.
I personally hope it's not directly their fault but some big colossal clusterfuck situation they get stuck in the middle of and have to struggle to escape even with Vergil there.
I personally hope it's 100% their fault, because that'd be funnier
Even for retards like the sinners, I can't imagine them being directly responsible for the sudden death of limbillions. It's definitely gonna be some big fucking mess that they'll get stuck in though, or else it wouldn't be fun
all those fanarts images were commisioned by the devs to create hype just like these threads, it ain't gonna work, nobody cares
>he thinks PM has a marketing budget
>He doesn't know about The Director's earthquake singularity
record profits
Ryoshu's a
>Shipping chart
>By the tumblrtard who made this
I never seen something so out of character that it literally make the objectively good artwork look ugly as hell. Like nothing is wrong with it but at the same time it is so fucking awful. The person who drew that completely miss the point of the character
That is typically what tumblr does to an artist. Like that artist can actually draw well but because they grew up on Tumblr they learned to draw in that ugly art style. It's like squidward teaching spongebob art.
Why this Don looks so "Off" I mean it does have Don's appearance but there is something unsettling about it.
Because they traced parts from chainsaw man characters
It looks like a gay Denji
the faust and yi sang ship remains weird and nonsensical. i think they've only ever spoken once and that was it. dante and faust is a much more logical ship
I feel like most Yi Sang and Faust stuff came from prerelease.
Why? I haven't the faintest idea.
It's because Faust and Yi Sang are thematically linked as founding members of limbus. Faust built mephistopholese and Yi Sang created the tech that allows sinners to use IDs.
They are VERY important to the director because their stories are meta-textually linked to the development of the game itself (Selling your soul for success, getting cucked for money).
probably because of Yi Sang being token A expy and Faust being Angelica 2.0, I guess?
I can kind of understand it, but it's still fucking stupid
Even then it doesn't make sense. Dante is clearly the X/A analogue of Limbus. Hell, he's even Sinner X (10). If you wanted to use meta stuff to support shipping, Faust is the closest thing we have to Beatrice.
>SIR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM THE KEBAB SIR
When did we learn this?
the limbus opening; at the very end where it shows the date and the city's population rapidly falling. The date shown is one year away from the start
How did I the opening 1 limbillion times and never notice that
well, we didn't know it was 1 year onto the future. Most people assumed it was the pianist or the crying children or a good day in chicago
One of the trailers has a shot where the city’s population count rapidly plummets, and the date stated is one year in the future.
My guess is it'll be caused by an aleph wandering onto the surface after the deterrence weakens.
Both, expecting to know what every singularity does at the end of the journey.
Also they're totally not going to mention the library even once.
It's definitely going to be both. Lobcorp and Ruina both had stories that at their core were about the characters and their personal issues and growth, but those issues and growth both originated with the state of the world and had a large influence on that setting as well.
Does the cognition filter extend to sense of touch? Wanna grab and manhandle malcute
currrently stuck with pic related against Kromer, who should I be taking? I can somewhat consistently get to the second phase, but then she obliterates me.
also
>have couple of tier II IDs
I know, I was going blind into the game and this is my first gacha, I'm also shit outta thread.
I did Tingtang Hong Lu, G Corp Gregor, and base Faust, Yi Sang, and Heathcliff
Base Yi Sang is pretty good at winning important clashes since his attacks have good min rolls. Him and Faust have good resists and everyone else is good damage
>Half of the identities aren't fully uptied
You might be bricked if you can't do it with your team.
Yeah, I fucke dup real badly, didn't I? First gacha and thought that having many tier IIs intead of one or two tier IIIs would be best, at this point I'm really tempted to buy the Thread pack just to uptie Greg and Meur.
Also PM did me dirty with that Kromer buff on bleed/burn, Ryoshu is def my best ID.
related captcha
lvl 30 W Don from friend list carried me through Kromer
I kind of liked abnos more when I thought they were just spooky anomalies that were collected by our company to research and extract magic brain juice from, basically beasts that were captured from the underbelly of the world and strange artifacts that were collected for secret use by a company. The exclusively man-made, manually created in a lab metaphor stuff without exception kind of takes the wind out of them. It's lame. Why did Japan, Korea, and to a lesser extent China all latch onto the Jung collective unconscious theory so much?
Same, I just wanted SCP without "muh deep lore". Ironic I know but at least PM lore is still interesting unlike SCP. I just want spooky ideas and concepts, maybe even a funny one here and there. SCP no longer give me that and beside optional tidbits PM is really kinda dropping it.
This series is a perfect example of "Let's break through using the SCP focused game concepts and ditch it afterward for our own lame turn based battle ideas later on"
Bums me out a little that abnos are heavily on the backburner nowadays and it seems like they're trying to both hype them up and tone down the focus on them at the same time, which is awkward. Big Bird's weird look and feeling bad about QoH's brain damage was the reason I tried out Lobotomy Corp in the first place and now it feels like a different series honestly. I still like it, or I wouldn't be posting here, but it makes the subsequent games after Lobcorp feel lesser.
I think Ruina is a superior game with a better story, but the SETTING of Lobotomy was my favorite. I liked it more when it was mysterious, esoteric, and condensed into one space. We can’t even go back to that because tons of newly revealed info is canon even to the era of LC. I’m happy the series has grown so much, but I miss the comfy lobotomy times the most.
Eh, it has more to it but I still prefer LC. Despite the complaints people had (and still HAVE) about it, and despite the shitty translation it originally had, it was exactly what I was looking for. Ruina is not. Neither is Limbus. Not that I dislike them, but I am playing them because I loved LC so much and wanted to see where it went after, not purely by their own merits.
I think it works well in supporting the narrative of Lobcorp, but I can understand it being a bit disappointing for someone who got into Lobcorp for the not-SCPs and didn't care as much about the plot.
I think that it feels like they're kind of handwaving the abnos. Feels sort of similar to those endings where it's revealed that everything was just a dream.
Then again, I was very attached to the abnos. I liked QoH art for obvious reasons, I got my sibling to draw cute fanart of the 3 Birds, I considered NT to be a true friend after his gear carried the fuck out of me because I decided not to repo him out despite my best nug barely surviving if he got near-perfect work successes on him. Just want something else focused on the abnos honestly. I like the games still, they're just missing the same sort of glint the original had.
I mean for me certain abnos like QoH and Burrowing Heaven are better when framed in the context of being conceptual archetypes manifested physically rather than just weird monsters, but that just comes down to a matter of preference in the end.
I liked thinking that the world had a bunch of bad-ended magical girls who ended up becoming monsters themselves. Realizing now that the official stance is simply that they were dreamed into existence and then manifested by dipping a clerk who watched too much Madoka Magica into the well defeats the whole thing for me personally since they were simply born into the world fucked up and monstrous rather than having any actual backstory.
Burrowing Heaven, eh, I always hated the fuck out of that little bastard, wasting my time. At least Schadman just sat there quietly while I flitted around the facility managing other stuff.
>and then manifested by dipping a clerk who watched too much Madoka Magica into the well
All Abnormalities manifested out of Carmen's mind. She's the one who watched too much magical girl anime.
Doesn't really change anything other than Miss Suicide being a nerd. They're still just figments granted flesh.
Just started the game. I didn't know new Ruina was released since there was no hype over it on you tube, then i realised why.
>battle pass
>gacha
>lootboxes
>daily challenges
>ebin skin unlockables
Whats next? NFT's?
>new ruina
>not the first post from this IP
here's your first and hopefully last (You), shitposter
is n corp ryona just better than kurokomo if I have n corp mursalt
heh
>he didn't stagger the boss in one turn
holy brain brick
Good shit
don moment
Oh no, my pirated version spared me 100 hours of grinding gameplay by unlocking all skins. What do i do now? Play an actual real game?
in short, yes.
there is no point without dating sim mechanics to care about waifus. They are just nobodies that will not appear in new games
Ish honestly look good. Laust is out of character with that expression but that aside she look nice. I honestly keep forgetting Don is a girl with how she acts, my brain just treat her like a general retard. I honestly for a few seconds thought Don wearing a dress is meant to be a funny genderbent joke until I recall her gender.
At that point just cut the middle man and see the jpgs on the internet, if you don't like a game/genre, why even do something like pirating and isntaunlocking everything?
God I hope someone's working on an autofarm script for mirror dungeons. I have 300 modules and I do not think I have the sanity to do 100 mirror dungeon runs.
Did not mean to quote there.
Need a ryoshu gf to strangle me to death
If I had money I’d be supporting you
Instead I’ll just send soul cookies and my massive Tiberium collection from winning 4 wars
>-50%
This is the first time I got to throw this fucking attack but good lord
I'm gonna fucking KILL Laetitia!
I love her
Those gifts. That poor nugget went through a lot and somehow still didn't get a spider gift to explode on her.
Fair. Still need to do all achievements on ACS, try Keplerth and few others game all fall under the same style. It addicting but it also kinda does get old at the same time.
Does anyone have that outis menopause comic?
what are the IDs? Just alt universe things? Or the sinners past? It seems like alt worlds but Meursault DID work for N-Corp before from what the story said.
They say in story that they're alternate realities
alt universes
she explains this in the first few chapters doesnt she
she does but it's barely relevant story-wise and never explained more. I know we're just at ch 3 but a lil more dripfeeding would be welcome
Yi Sang invented the tech according to Leviathan so wait for his chapter
Just alt universe things, fucking hell man. They say this in Chapter 1 AND in Leviathan.
>Meursault DID work for N-Corp before from what the story said
Yeah he did
I must've missed it in Ch.1, and I've never read Leviathan, sorry. I only tried this game because it was from the same people who made the game that destroyed my laptop's fan with memory leaks
Then how'd you remember Meursalt was from N Corp, that's from chapter 3
Because I'm in chapter 3, on stage 3-17.
I have not skipped any cutscenes either, I just genuinely do not remember seeing that explained.
You can use the theatre to reread it, it's when they gave you Shi Ishamel as a tutorial for extraction after she complained about 'lack of growth', they also explain some of the mechanics of 'wearing' the IDs too
>tutorial
Ah that would explain it. The whole contents of the tutorial have left my head because it actively made it harder to understand how the game works. Phenominally awful tutorial. I don't recall Lobcorp's tutorial being this bad.
It wasn't in the tutorial chapter, it was in chapter 1, before you meet up with the Grade 8 Fixers
then I have no idea why I forgot it
thanks
>the benefits of reaching max account level
none. there is no max account level
Malkute and Hod were hard downgrades, everyone else got upgraded.
oh
OH
OH MY GOD NO
wait so that means OH HOLY SHIT
and earlier angela said to him she made the whole thing go tits up on purpose and so that means AAAAAAAAAA
>prudence II->III
elaborate, i dont understand
BUT WAIT
There is even more
Friendly reminder that the first words Roland said in-game were:
"Damn it...The Purple Tear...Can’t believe this is how she handled it…What the hell happened? What’s with all this smoke? Sigh… Guess I’ll have to trust her…"
God I was laughing so hard at that chapter. Seeing this after all the brother in law posting in the threads during EA was hilarious.
Being able to guess key plot points by just reading the inspirations is a great feeling
I didn't take it entirely seriously at the time because I thought the names were going to be like the Sephira's original names with just vague thematic implications rather then play a part outright character relations and stories, which is why that reception took me so off guard.
Braptis
signalisfags need to go and stay go
meds
>Fluid Sac targets all 5 targets
>Coin procs and does it again
Jesus christ
Faust's Fluid Sac is so fucking good
Personally, I like LC's character designs more. Yes, yes, I know the plot reason for them, but I still find them more charming than semi-realistic portraits in Ruina.
Imagine not taking White Gossypium
Honestly I think I would like stagger better for headless fish but you do you.
As much as I want to meme, White Gossypium doesn't really work. Headless fish took 32 bleed damage 1st time it rolled attack, then the count was down to 2 and it took 17 bleed damage on its 2nd attack, then no bleed count nor stacks at all after that. Something wrong is going on with Bleed really so it's not worth it even on Bleed teams, which I always run.
I run bleed as well but still wouldn't want that ego gift. Would literally hurt myself instead of picking the flower during that abno event because I see it as a downgrade.
Can Ayin not be arsed to tell his mom he's okay and she doesn't need to kill a bajillion people to look for him? Isn't he omnipresent now?
>his mom
*his gf
this dungeon pisses me off more and more
Look at this shit, what's the point in jumpscare you into unwinnable fights?
That room is optional. The reward you get is outright shit. With that said only pussies will finish the dungeon without doing that room. Best of luck.
I though I had to do it for the marks
I'll just drop the story entirely until they raise the level cap and we get 000 identities that actually do something, because I don't think I've rolled head once in the dungeon despite being level 30
bro all you need to do get kurokumo ryoshu to the final boss, it's basically autowin
she never rolls more than 6, she's fucking useless
you did uptie her, right
>he ACTUALLY jobbed to the prudence check
Dios Mio...
learn the enemy pattern you fag, they are not hard
>bone blast
>20 x 2
>heal for 40
yeah, it's kinda easy, my strongest EGO skill get mogged by it
borrowed one from a friend, level 30 max uptie
jesus my dude how do you admit this kind of thing and not feel intense embarrassment
RNG decided to fuck me, good for you if you rolled white clashes, It never happens for me
dunno what to tell you man, i had barely lvl 20 sinners and cleared all of chapter 3
kroomer beat me down once but i came back the second time and stomped her
you're using blunt res sinners and spamming your EGOs, right? you're using a team comp with good EGO generation and spamming them whenever you see a Neutral or lower clash rate, right? just fucking doomp that shit, they're made to be this way
the game is RNG based, if you get godly clashes turn one it's an autowin
for me for example, my cliff roll 4 on average on all his skills, and he deals damages 3 by 3
learning how to compensate for RNG is the most basic of video game skills
come on m8 i believe in you, you can do it
you can be smug about it, if the game decided to win, it will win because despite having 3 skills, your nugget will just get the basic 1 coin useless one
but you can't, you can't chose your skills, you can't chose who get targeted and the defensive skills are useless
no big deal, I'll just complete the BP and wait for my characters to get adequate identities, I'm just in for the long run
pick people who have good clash potential
make sure they're max uptied
pick the best skills you have available and if you still end up with Struggling then defend
EGO if you can
i'm honestly not trying to be smug or condescending at this point
just work the odds in your favor
>pick people who have good clash potential
already taking them, doesn't matter because I roll minimum 3 out 4 times
>make sure they're max uptied
they are, also max level
>pick the best skills you have available and if you still end up with Struggling then defend
I struggle when I get dominating anon
>EGO if you can
already does to win unwinnable clashes
>i'm honestly not trying to be smug or condescending at this point
good for you
>just work the odds in your favor
already do
how's your SP looking, the only thing i can think of that's making you roll like shit at this point is low SP
high/max SP gives you like a 70% chance to flip heads so keeping your dorks happy is key
faust has a bunch of SP gain EGOs which can help, anybody with AoEs like hon glue or faust or greg can really help around here
i feel your pain in some way in that when i was struggling with ruina stuff a lot of the answers i got were just
>lol u had trouble with ___? it's so ez
difficulty tends to swing between literally impossible and piece of cake at the flip of a coin
ganbare i guess is all i can add at this point, maybe just sleep on it and come back, that always works
can't really do anything about SP, they're 45 most of the time, when it start to drop I can just press auto because it means I have 2 or more staggered this turn or the next
thanks, I'll wait for the nerfs or the buffs
what would happen if we just
just let QoH and KoD go free
if you kept KoD happy literally nothing bad would happen, and letting her out would let her protect her chosen with more than a blessing.
QoH just needs to join the sinners, she'd be a disaster level version of Don.
Finished chapter 3 with base IDs at lv 20, learn how to read rolls and git gud.
Post characters.
You only need 3 marks out of the possible 4 you can get in the dungeon. And even then depending on who you ask they might not even be worth it.
the game bugged because in the first floor there was a fight that said a win would get me a mark
I never got it
You can do it anon. Just have F A I T H. But Canto 3 dungeon fucking sucks.
just some TETHs bro what's the matter
>Jobbing to the prudence check
Anon...
>jumpscare
>room has the same icon as bosses
so just to be clear these things would job to some new hire agent with singing machine's gear right?
yes
but singing machine only gives you a weapon
yes that's why I used it as the example, it's long range too
>~250 average HP
>TETH-risk
as long as they don't get hit, yeah, it should still work
I keep hearing mix things about Lobo agents. They basically just swinging ego stick arounds and the ego alone carry them to success or they are the most badass people to ever exist that can blast the Head out of the water multiple times without even trying. I feel some folks letting gameplay influence their feelings too much but I'm not which side is more right on the matter.
abnormalities are nerfed inside the facility, you even see this in chapter 1 of limbus
Wearing EGO instantly makes you a master of that weapon, yes.
Nuggets are entirely carried by ego, you take the ego off of an EX agent they die to a breaching HE abno in less than a minute
EGO are among the most powerful augmentations available in the City. All some random fuck needs to do is pick up an ALEPH weapon and suit (with the force of will to withstand the mental corrosion, which can be trained relatively easily) and they can fight on-par with a Color Fixer (or, likely, better).
It isn't as easy to get someone with that level of mental fortitude. Remember, the agents that we hire are specially scouted because of how well they mesh with the EGOS. Also do remember that the beings we face come directly from the human mind. Even the Inquisitors we face, whom have probably been on multiple crusades got corroded by a simple TETH EGO.
What? No they aren’t agents and clerks were(at least until the hod upgrade) any chuckle fuck off the street
Inquisitors are clearly mentally unwell for the most part. Kromer is not of sound mind. The average hammer sees nothing wrong with punching a nail through a child's skull in front of their mother.
A child would cry tears if such a thing were to happen. I only seen oil. That was no child, that was a toy at best. A "child" without pain, without a childhood simply can't be a child.
Ah clearly the musings of a sound mind
>t. faust
Explaining the thought process shows it clearer, yeah. Cartoonishly evil in a silly way.
I honestly think N-Corp is just kind of lame. Very tired of the burn the heretics shtick under a different skin.
I like them specifically because the inquisitors seem like some niche subset of N-corp who really aren't very important or strong in the grand scheme of the city even after intentionally corroding themselves.
If they were actually important and similarly relevant to the other big organizations I'd like them a lot less.
We're only going off Meursault's words on that though.
I just dislike them because every crusader/inquisitor/zealot/death cultist/fanatic ends up being the same fucking shit. I had one look at the first Inquisitor NPC who stopped the bus to bitch about Dante and I immediately knew what the whole next part of the story would be about.
To be fair better be done with this early. I don't want Index 2.0 Crusade edition.
Ok, Index is actually cool. They dont have a plan. They just go with the flow (Will of the City).
The only one who has a plan there is the City, the rest dont even know what the fuck they are supposed to be doing.
Index was way more interesting than N corp
I agree but I really love the ending of the story. That shit hit hard where in comparison Kromer kinda burn out like a candle slowly until suddenly blown out due to plot armor basically. We still gotta learn about the marks and all of that shit but I have a feeling it will be a "hey you guys remember this plotline?" way farther down the road.
I'm a fan of them but honestly I'm hoping after the Faust banner that be the last we heard of them. I feel the more they show up the less interesting they become. They good for a meme and to laugh at/about but I feel there is nothing more to learn about them. Details on the nails and main bit of N Corp would be nice but I'm clock out in terms of the knight cult.
N-Corp =/= Nagel und Hammer.
The latter seems to be a really autistic niche group that are allowed to do whatever they do.
N-Corp has dudes like Gubo and Vespa who obviously aren't on that sauce but there's other autistic taboos going on with N as a whole
Don't they have to do the hammer shit to use their singularity?
N Corp's singularity is injecting experience/memories right? Nagel und Hammer aren't N Corp exactly but they definitely get "supplies" from them. I'm wondering what IS N Corps main purpose though.
>N Corp's singularity is injecting experience/memories right?
no one really knows the proper details at the moment
the mirror was made at M corp with the ring, the lead researcher was stolen and brought to N corp, the nail and hammer mention they use the nails for process
there's a gap between the events we don't really know about
It's not fully known but heavily suspected to require genuine human qualia (which is why they ban cameras and send taboo hunters after people who see recordings of their nest) and related to their 'canned human experiences' that Grosshammer Meursalt talks about.
Potentially related to their singularity is the suicide booths that N Corp operate which gets brought up in Leviathan iirc Vergillius says that many people migrate to the N Corp nest to use them. He also theorizes the attempted singularity using Garnet and the Gems was to be implemented into their suicide booths to make them better. The researcher who makes the gemstone array does it trying to 'one-up' his rival who made the mirror Yi Sang
I hope we get to see Vespa again and I hope they let him be the Yellow Wasp.
He doesn't seem strong enough to be a colored fixer, since each of them have something unique about them that makes them the way they are.
Iori can dimension hop
Argalia is immune to ranged and someone said he has something else funny about him
Geburah was raw unga
And I don't know what Vergils is since I haven't read the MTL, all I know is he cauterizes people he dismembers.
>He doesn't seem strong enough to be a colored fixer.
Yet!
I believe with enough training under the wise tutelage of señora Moses that he will be granted a colour soon!
>all I know is he cauterizes people he dismembers.
That's from his sword.
The most 'unique' thing would be his eyes but that's exactly a power. And Roland and Angelica didn't have some dimension shenanigans.
And Vermillion Cross was just a big dude who got killed by Elena and then book'd
Do you think he's back to life after getting book'd during Reverberation and then un-booked by Angela?
In theory Tomerry is out there somewhere.
>in theory
you straight up see them. Red Gay tries to kill them and Purple Milf blocks him. You see their apron.
my brain must had blur that out. I honestly do not recall that at all.
Orphanage section at the start of Leviathan.
oh that why. I still need to get around to that.
They take up an entire page practically
sus
Damn the art is good, I might read it sooner just knowing that now.
Only 11/20 are actually comics, the rest are LN. And it's a travesty because the art was kino.
The novel parts were better
No
LIMBILLION
Yea, pre-MTL doesn't say anything about what his funny eyes do, and I'm guessing the later chapters of Leviathan say what they do since anons here are saying he manifested EGO
Manifesting his EGO lets him use hemakinesis and do vampire shit, eyes aren't mentioned directly aside from it being a fight with Schadenfreude
Was the puppeteer actually involved with V Cross? I thought it was just Elena.
Probably a mix of Elana and pupeteer's work. Tomerry could move around fine even after being unbooked and not having whatever was going on in the bus keeping it alive so I don't see why the same couldn't be said for the cross. Pupeteers actual puppets have a pretty distinct visual style he didn't
One of 2 possibilities
>He's alive but with the Puppeteer dead he can't move or speak and is basically dead in the water unless Iori comes and helps him
>He was dead before being turned into a puppet
He doesn't have many good options
What does the Red Gaze™ actually do eye wise?
The translated bits of Leviathan I read forever ago didn't really specify, Vergil was just an augmented gorilla with a searing gladius before he awakens EGO I assume at the end of the novel
Fucking Vespa Crabro's name makes me laugh my ass off it sounds like a literal fanfiction tier name
I think some of the stories the director writes MUST be inspired from his TTRPG games with his friends. A lot of the characters act like PCs and the entire chapter 2 casino job plays out like party full of murder hobos derailing a carefully plotted adventure.
>I want to roll to knock down the chandelier
>why?
>because
Weren't the nuggets specifically selected for being mentally unstable rather than fortituous since that would allow them to resonate with the EGO better?
It's been a while I really need to replay lobcorp or at least rewatch the story.
I don't know about that but you might be right. Referring to the Official artbook, it only says that they're screened for their 'aptitude' with EGO aka how well they resonate with EGO.
It's both. They're hard carried by their gear and would be rats without it, but it immediately puts them at a much higher powerlevel then their skill would normally allow. As I think either Binah or Geb said in lobcorp the real power of (extracted) EGO isn't that it makes you the outright strongest, it's that it can be used to make a dozen shitters into powerhouses.
The ones on par with colors are the giftmaxxed ones, it's not as simple as anyone who can equip an ALEPH.
Sill an easy grade 1 tier though.
I mean you sticking Paradise Lost or Twilight onto a giftless nug would still be apocalypse tier, it's important to remember that some ALEPH gear is a cut above the rest.
I mean yeah paralost and twilight are special cases, but they aren't exactly easy to acquire without all the specific circumstances that went into the L-corp HQ being like it is.
Some random L-corp wannabes without proper TT2, extraction department, a bunch of trained nuggets with weaker EGO and whatever else is just going to cause a nest to get nuked by a boss ALPEH trying to get their hands on either.
A nugget with nothing there’s ego equipment alone would be a fucking nightmare to deal with
It takes, what, a week or three of training to get a fresh nugget up to level V in all their stats? At which point they can pick up Paradise Lost and become Color Fixer-tier.
Depends on if his has her bonus, in which case 2-3 days then
It's a really insane and outright unfair power boost.
A random shitter like pic related who is a literal nobody who would live in fear of a random rat jumping him on the street if he lives in the backstreets or is a wagecuck in the nests working at a fucking call center or something can become nearly color-fixer tier after a week with some EGO. Those feared sweepers that 90% of the population fear and it's highly recommend to get an entourage of Zwei if you want to walk around at night? That's the easier end to solo, and it allows agents to put up a good fight against fucking arbiters
I think it was specifically that Gigachads were comparable to ALEPHs and Claws. A regular nugget you trained up to EX stats and equipped with an Aleph wouldn't be there, you need a lot of gifts and possibly the wings to reach that level. Still an insane powerboost compared to what a shitters other options would be, but they still have to go through a fair bit to reach that point and would be kind of fucked without TT2.
Schadenfreude almost killed Vergil, a Color Fixer. WITH the EGO that he'd just manifested. You can reasonably powerscale your nuggets against him by throwing them against Schadenfreude and seeing how they do.
autism
Holy FALSE, also no Qliptoth meme nerfing them like Cheesed's meltdown on roids
Qliphoth deterrence goes both ways. It nerfs both Abnormalities and EGO.
>[Citation needed]
I really don't recall them saying that it nerfs EGO as well, then again it's been forever since I watched the LC cutscenes.
why do people keep saying this shit, i dont remember it being said in lobcorp
If you want to be technical I don't think LC mentions deterrence outright nerfing abnos at all, just making them more docile and less likely to rampage.
Or at least I seem to remember one anon arguing as much.
Okay but what about effects on EGO, which is what we're talking about
LC just really doesn't touch on deterrence much at all. It makes a degree of sense that it would also effect EGO because EGO/Abnos/Ordeals are all different flavors of the same collective unconsciousness river magic stuff, but it's definitely not stated anywhere that it does.
if this were the case then EGO wouldnt be the go-to for suppressing abnormalities as opposed to high quality workshop gear
>no deterrence
>staring at it directly and triggering the buff
Try having a balanced resistances armor nugget fight shad while you watch during Chesed's meltdown with red damage selected would be a closer analogy.
Using gameplay for powerlevels is peak autism anyway.
On this topic I was reminded that people in these threads are actively downplaying the strength of the sinners.
They job out a WAW as their first big fight and that was also under the same level of qliptoth detterence right? And it gets harder from then on specifically the more boroughs they pick up. People are straight up calling them grade 8's at best because they're suicidetards who know they can get away with it when fucking Isadora is Grade 6 and Walter is Grade 5.
People definitely downplay the sinners but at the same time they don't seem especially strong either. It's hard to really say with qlipoth deterrence since the amount could vary and the sinners struggle way harder later in the story against lower tier abnormalities (and kromer) while ebony queen was barely a footnote.
I'm pretty sure N-Corp is Nagul und Hammer, it's the "actual" name of the corp in the same way that L-Corp is Lobotomy Corporation. It's the inquisitors specifically that are the niche group.
They're 'strong' for the average city denizen but not ELITE strong like Roland and the like.
I'd put them somewhere "stronger than the average bus janny/rabbit mook" which is fine for suiciding into puzzle fights constantly and winning
That seems reasonable. People also should remember that if DD is anything to go by the difference between a grade 3 and a strong grade 1 is
>you will die there's nothing you can do RUN RUN RUN
There's plenty of room between "color" and "urban legend jobber" for the sinners to fill.
Yeah there's also a huge difference between a goober Grade 1 who is just very average (cough Don Juan bros) and those you Grade 1's you mentioned
Don Juan is a bit unfair because we only ever see him in gameplay. He might have been intended to actually be somewhat threatening and PM just aren't all that good at balance.
To be fair power grades means nothing. Dong Hwan is grade 1 for example. You couldn't tell because bro stacks bleed post-bleed nerf. Poor sod. And Telma was gutted like a fish during the night in the backstreets.
I'm not the kind of person who argues too much about powerlevels because I think the kind of shit /a/ gets into where they argue autistic shit like could this SSSSSS rank beat this SSSSSSSSS rank really fucking dumb, my main point is that people are straight up saying the sinners are bigger jobbers than they realistically are.
Thelma wasn't really beat up by smiling masks though, I kind of just though he was just beat up and tied up by Argalia
though in gameplay it is 5 vs 5 I assume that is for the sake of the gameplay. In lore I believe you aren't fighting x5, x5, x5, x5 riot guys but 20 of them all at once and still holding your own. But just like you I give zero fucks about power levels. Sinner though are clearly not the weakest bunch, it just some lads like the hero guy in Chapter 3 can curve stomp them due to being a professional curve stomper.
Nah, I'm just saying that entire "grade" thing is depends more on circumstances. Like you said Walter is grade six and smoke war vet to boot. But Walter is not good fighter at all. But game also really is not good example of persons powers. Since Zwei are early encounter.
>people are straight up saying the sinners are bigger jobbers than they realistically are
I doubt most people think it's true either. No need to get so worked up about harmless shitpost.
Pretty clear grade doesn't directly equal to rank, Did people forget Roland got drop all of the way down to the bottom? Even without his gear Angela noted he was too fucking good to be his grade. I feel like people get too stuck into the same mindset that DBZ power levels belong in. In a living universe nothing should be that fucking black and white, no matter how much people try to force it to be that way.
I'm well aware and don't want to be looped into the same scope as DBZfags tierlisters. A few clerks could probably win a fight with fixers by gassing the entire room
A grade is more about accomplishments that raw power from what I recall. You could theoretically have a intelligence fixer who is so good at spy work they never get into a fight and end up a high grade, and on the other end you could have a fixer who is considered one of the strongest in the city but still doesn't have a color because he does cushy security work for a corp instead of hunting down stars and doing dangerous, impressive stuff. It's still the city and some degree of combat is inevitable so grade usually does roughly correlate with strength, but it's not an absolute thing like some people treat it.
Remember that these things aren't under Qilphoth deterrence
They're still TETH though, vs an always-active EGO weapon of a higher grade (i.e. does more to TETH than listed as the raw stat). A few shots and some good micro and these things are deader than a Green Dawn.
but they are?
Are EGOs also affected by the Qlipoth Deterrence? I don't think we see it from our agents gameplay-wise but Gebura is affected by it during Day 48 right?
I'm not fully sure but if I recall the answer is yes and is why EGO gear is still ALEPH tier. The wielder, if they were to take the gear out of the facility would have the same level of potential damage.
Maybe in a 1v1 or as a support. Singing Machine's gimmick makes your ass get kicked sideways if even one of them gets near you.
So if the nailers hate body mods why does N Meur have a Bane mask and tubes going through his face? Isn't that heresy? I haven't actually finished chapter 3 or uncapped him to see his story.
They hate prosthetics that replace human bodyparts specifically. They hate you if you have a pacemaker but if you have an augment that just injects combat drugs at critical moments they're fine with that.
a pacemaker does not replace a heart
otherwise correct
>crazy fanatic cultists just want to purge and the reasons are an excuse
Color me shocked
Nah I'm pretty sure that was an intentional showcase of contradiction of their faith and beliefs as Banesault waits for the other inquisitors to leave before lowering his mask.
Wait, you can do all the dungeon rooms? Is there any reason to?
No, just for fun and bragging rights. I did all rooms for the lulz and plan to keep my record going though it is literally a waste of time to do so.
so we're all agreed that the first project moon anime in existence needs to be the unspecified mahou shoujo anime that had queen of love, knight of hope, servant of friendship, and king of shit i forgot fighting against jester of nihil, right?
Sixty trillion limbillions in gimp
Breeding Laetitia
i wish wonderlab never happened because SoW's design is quite literally dogshit compared to the other magical girls'
Frankly speaking, I don't remember anything from that comic, except for Catt's faces and all that sexual tension.
Faust is the Sweeper Mother
Is it possible to link 2 steam accounts to make someone else grind for me?
Nemo receives an email with this image attached. What changes?
hl2.exe has stopped responding
how long is wonderlab? currently on ep32
>inb4 wonderlab is shit
im reading it for the abnos and aberrations go away
It is short, you will be done in a single sitting if you just keep going.
I still don't get how summation pages work
Can someone explain them to me
You roll all the dice on the clashing page and add them up. You use this number to clash against the mass attack.
To add to this, counters dont add to the summ
Your page rolls it’s damage roll, then each enemy rolls each die on their page and the combines them individually to see if it counters yours
In LoR or Limbus?
in LoR, they add all of a card's dice when clashing (counter dice not included, IIRC0. For example, a summation die of 20-25 clashes against two pages that have 4-10, 4-7, 5-8 dice and rolls a 20. If page one gets 10, 7, 8 (25 total) and page two gets 4, 4, 5 (13 total), then page one "evades" the attack while page two gets hit.
In Limbus, this is great simplified. The attack is directed towards on skill slot and clashes against it. If it wins, every targeted enemy gets hit. If it loses, the attack is negated.
it takes the sum of all the dice you can roll on your page
i.e. a 2-5 + 3-6 page vs. a 10-14 mass sum will end up giving you a 5-11 roll vs. a 10-14 roll which is a BAD idea
aim your card against the mass sum die UNLESS you're feeling cheeky and know you can beat it in which case you can use this die to clash with another, because if you win your dice stays and can do whatever afterwards
if you DON'T win however your die/page is fucking destroyed, so don't gamble unless you can afford to pay the piper
The truth is Faust could never love Dante because he's too stupid.
so what is it then
I'm confused
abnos are SOLELY from Binah's funky bucket? Or the ones in LC are just from it? Random ones appear in the black forest? Or the black forest is just a meme (in the original sense of the word) and it's some retarded metaphor too? Random ones just pop into existence when people go crazy? Random ones existed beforehand? People turn into them like that TETH that wants to die? It's all just random crap made by Carmen and their backstories are meaningless drivel? What the fuck is it?
Yes.
Joking aside it is complex as hell and pretty much everything you said is right to some degree.
so can I impregnate the Knight of Despair or not
I want to say no because I don't think Abnos are capable of having babies in the normal sense. You can fuck it for science though and get back at us with the results. Just as long your love making is at the highest tier.
>abnos are "human" according to
[...]
Are EGOs also affected by the Qlipoth Deterrence? I don't think we see it from our agents gameplay-wise but Gebura is affected by it during Day 48 right?
>can't impregnate
clerk tier answer to a clerk tier question
the real question would be what the fuck she'd give birth to
She’s dispair, so probably perfectly normal and still born for maximum sadness
we got a party pooper here
this is why KoD is forever alone
Hey that’s the most likely answer
Well I was thinking in terms of Abnos being a new species which by definition would make them unable to crossbreed. But of course we never had any word on what would happen or what the result would be if someone were to try. Melting Love is the closest to an abno going for love. The few other human-like ones just want to chat/kill or befriend you. Forsaken Murderer or grandma would likely be the most breedable in terms of producing an offspring. I just don't think anyone would want to tap those two though.
>Grandma
>breedable
If it were GrandPA then yeah but if she's even the slightest bit human in the way she seems there's no eggs left in there. QoH could be bred I think. Remember all those fanarts of her with eggs? Haha. Just thought of those thanks to you. Haha.
Abnormalities are chained by their archetypes. Even though they can feel love or be discussed with it'll be reset when they deviate from their supposed archetype.
Hokma 3 Story, Lobotomy Corporation. Although he does not elaborate on what the values he pick them on, he does make it a point that they are specifically picked because they are special in a way.
It's not about love, it's about what she'll produce if inseminated.
Could that trait be trauma and disfunction? It reminds me of the employee in [CENSORED]'S story log
got any more of dem pixels?
idk why my snipping tool sometimes does this
now compress it
>m*ltdown.
that's a weak meltdown, my eyes aren't bleeding. Did you go to therapy yesod? You know thats not allowed in the City right?
That's clearly Qlipphot Counter 1 not 4
Better?
Harder you fucking tincan
yee
My eyes actually hurt now. Good job, Yesod.
>Low instinct
>High Attachment
Clearly Knight of Despair is the romantic kind of girl who responds well to courtship and shows disdain towards outward horniness.
I interpret it as her being difficult to feed and finicky.
The black forest is real (angela refers to it as if it was a physical place in the outskirts)
New abnos can emerge naturally in the black forest and a few other places with a natural connection to the river
The LC-facility is almost all abnos from the bucket, however according to a QnA there are a few from the outside
Abnos can also come into being from a distortion being denied itself, but the mechanism there is unknown
you mind if I save your post for later and even repost it? this is unironically helpful
I'll make sure to mention it's a repost if I do
Knock yourself out. If I wasn't dead tired I go look for the places this stuff was stated too. I'm pretty sure the black forest and natural abnos were explained by angela in day fortysomething of lobcorp at least.
Our content until the event
turn simulation off and start grinding like a sensible person
Speedrunning MDs is the only entertaining thing to do at this point.
>Grind MDs all day
>Still have 220 modules to spare
Whats the point of holding till the event, not like you're running out of resources anytime soon
Tiphu sexu
Don't bully Monzo, it is trying its best.
I love Outis gunblade. God I would be her Rinoa
>Which ''You'' are you going to be?
>inside the mirror do you see?
>someone else in that body?
EL DIRECTOR..... I KNEEL
>F
Boy I sure hope I won't have to do that again after I memrepo
WTF I thought the guy who was talking about the town being called 'Calw' and correlating it to Claws was shitposting, but the town name is actually written like that. Still don't buy the claw thing but it's weird.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calw
This is the town where the Demian story took place in.
Any tips for someone that's about to start LC without knowing a single thing about it? Or are the game mechanics self explanatory?
Read the manual, Manager
And good luck
Read the manual(important)
Dont be afraid to work with higher level abnos because you will need their gear
if you wish to grind for stats, do it on higher level abnos
Do your missions as soon as possible
Read the manual. That aside it is ok to reset. Some Abnos might piss you off or be way too hard extremely early on. That by design, knowledge is power. Don't read the wikia and ruin the whole fucking point of the game. Learn as you go and enjoy the suffering. Do missions, the perks are perma, info on abnos and gear likewise are still kept if you were to reset in any way. Just do your best anon and share you progress.
Do your missions asap.
Get 3 nuggets per department.
Get one level 5 nugget asap, then get a level 5 nugget per department.
If you don't know how the fuck an abno works, throw every nugget you got at it, get as much managerial notes you can, then retry the day since all your nuggets are dead, and go at it again with your newfound knowledge.
Alright, thanks bros. I'll heed your advice. Wish me luck.
abuse the memrepo. When a new abno gives you trouble don't restart the day right away, try to unlock the most info you can and then restart
Just reached Star of the City, how far am I into the game? Aren't there only 2 other chapters?
You've just left the tutorial. Got another six hundred hours left.
less than a third left
Star of the City is a bit bigger than the prior chapters but you're basically half way or 35% depending on how many realisations you've done.
After the eight sotc nodes there's impuritas civitis then blue reverb then general works realization then blue reverb distort
>depending on how many realisations you've done
None, I kinda neglected abno fight during urban nightmare, I have to catch up to them before i start sotc missions
On this note, I'm fighting King of Greed right now, should I let her spawn Magical Girl or King of Greed?
Magical Girl is easier I believe so you want that.
please note that literally any deck you pick up at this point will be exponentially better than anything you have at the moment
Can somebody please explain to me like a fucking child what these mean?
2x Gloom Abs.? I know Abs. is chaining three of the same color, but 2x what? 2x3 = 6??? They lose 6 SP?
Or how about Gluttony Abs. x8? 3x8? And if I get four of the same color, that would be 4x8?
2 times your gloom absolute resonance. If you chain 3 blues in a row you get 2x3=6, if you chain 5 in a row you get 2x5=10. Three is just the minimum amount for it to be counted as absolute resonance.
Perfect. Thank you
Though now that makes me wonder, if you chain 3 in a row, have a break and then chain 4 in a row would that be counted as 4 abs. or 7 abs.?
That's 7 abs.
Every color is considered together in the chain, you can have 1 green at the start and 5 skills down the line you can have 2 green skills at the end, and that would count as a resonance.
Abs resonance only triggers with three in a row though. It would be 7 res. but I don't know if it would be 7 abs.
>Abs resonance only triggers with three in a row though
No it doesnt.
He's right, just checked it myself after he said it.
You can get Glut/Wrath/etc. Resonance by getting 3 colors in the same chain, but Absolute Resonance happens if they're in a row.
thank god absolute isn't required for passives or they would be even more useless than how they currently are.
That's literally the definition of absolute resonance, this shit is in the tutorial.
I believe it would be 4, but since it's 2 absolute resonances it might count as seven. Good luck testing it.
chain 3 glooms in a row to make whoever is the slowest on your team do -6 SP on hit
gays gives a (however many green skills you chain together x8)% chance to inflict whatever maggots does
abs aka absolute resonance is you chaining together same colors in a row, uninterrupted
Give it to me straight, will buying the thread pack from the store and uptying Gregor will make a difference vs Kromer? I'm really desperte ATM and I fucked up using a lot of thread bc I wanted to go in blind like a dumbass
Don't give into the fear anon, if need be you can always retry.
Do your daily Luxcavations, get your levels up and try again
IDs and uptie levels carry over when you pause the dungeon and leave to upgrade
Gregor is nice 3 uptie to have in general but for Kromer herself I'm unsure. Even if it a bad choice for the fight you wouldn't regret him though.
You should be using Meursault, his basic EGO screws bosses hard, just be careful not to use his bleed skills. I went in there with both Rodia and Meursault like a dumbass and did it eventually.
Gregor's 3rd skill probably would help though.
>base ish
>base heath
>base/tingtang dong
>base sault
>mariachi sinclair (for fun)
all you need
>lost to Kromer phase 1
>game glitched and gave me the victory anyway
lmao, get fucked
Account be brick, you never got the cutscene
It's not like I'll never fight her again
I'll do it after I uptie Blade Lineage Yi Sang
but what if the glitch happens again? What if phase 2 is impossible for you now?
Then I will distort and force Director to kowtow for gibs
Plan on fighting her with N-corp Meursault when I get to it
fight her with bleed or you never fought her at all
it possible, just as long the stack is like exactly 1 by turn end.
I did
pre patch
>buying thread
disgusting, but your margins are certainly fucked. but it looks like you could beat kromer with the guys you already have. base meursault, base outis, g corp gregor, mexican sinclair, and tingtang hong lu. if tingtang hong lu inflicts bleed then replace him with lob co faust.
bout to do dungeon 3 again to see if shes actually difficult now or if you're all just retarded
So wtf was his problem?
I didn't really get what di the clown show him, did he think that his boss was fucking his crush or what?
That was part of it yeah, he had cuck fantasies about it
Extreme insecurities despite actually being pretty competent. This was further compounded when he confessed to Yuna and she couldn't immediately answer him. His rational mind knew that it's because she had a mission to go to, but the subconscious started making up wild fantasies about why, including her and Salvador having an affair. Meeting with the clown did not help.
Philip is just had cuck fetish. Don't mind the lad. None of that was real anyway.
The way I saw it it was one of those intrusive thought type things, he didn't actually believe it himself but it kept nagging at the back of his mind anyway and the clown captilized on that while he was at his lowest moment. Not that I'm projecting here or anything haha...
Internally, he thought that he was at fault for letting his colleagues and mentor die and was beating himself over it. The cuck fantasy was a small part of it. The thing that really broke him was that the clown was bringing out what he really thought of himself.
The most important thing is that the vision of Salvador and Yuna lambasting him comes from himself, first and foremost. He despises himself for thinking of shit like that about his mentor and senpai and then letting them die. Summarizing it, he is VERY insecure.
I felt really bad for him because of that. He was a coward, AND he was insecure. But I don't think he ever made that insecurity anyone else's problem other than his own. He ran because he was a pussy and thought he was outmatched, not because his own insecurities about himself as a human being made him abandon his office.
>and thought he was outmatched
I mean he kind of was, I'm pretty sure both Salvadore and Yuma have dialogue telling him to run, and Walter outright teleports him out even when he was ready to stay and fight.
I think another issue with Philip is that he was a bit coddled, so losing his mentor(s) just made him aimless.
Dude basically gave up his being and emotions. Is it weird for me to say what he was going through as a character in terms of his transformation was super interesting but he as a character was super boring to me?
>super boring to me
His design carried him a lot. Outside of that most people get too attached to retarded crybaby.
>I'm pretty sure both Salvadore and Yuma have dialogue telling him to run
Yeah you're right. It's kinda heartbreaking looking at their combat dialogue.
https://library-of-ruina.fandom.com/wiki/Dawn_Office
How many gold tickets to get 1 unit from 1 to 30? Want to be ready for Faust simping
37