Out of the box it stutters badly and won't run at more than 60 fps. It gets better after you apply the fix from PCGW but it's still worse than the Windows version.
Really? The native version works on my machine. It's also the native version that Valve verified for Steam Deck compatibility. Most ProtonDB reports seem to be saying the native version is fine too; they don't recommend switching to Proton. Really this seems like the dumbest example you could have picked.
So it runs badly at very high frame rates? Okay. I did run the game at 60 Hz last time I played it, and never imagined it would benefit from a higher frame rate because it's a 2-D pixel-graphics single-player casual indie game, but if it fails to run smoothly at 144 Hz or some other meme refresh rate then I guess that sucks. And no I didn't read every ProtonDB report, but I saw some reports claiming zero problems and I saw zero reports recommending Proton.
The problem is if you run it on a high refresh rate monitor and enable vsync it stutters really badly. It's not like any normal game where it'll just run at stable 60 fps. The experience you get is more like unstable 30 fps.
On Windows disabling vsync unlocks the framerate and makes it run mostly smooth (but still not perfect). The Linux version out of the box does not unlock the framerate and so it still manages to stutter as much as with vsync on. Applying the fix from PCGW unlocks the FPS like on Windows but for some reason it's still less smooth.
I don't care a single bit there is a free version. The very fact that there is a paid version of this, and my package manager told me to go look at it tells me I never even need to think about Ubuntu anymore.
Linux is free as in freedom. Nobody can stop you from selling distros and services relating to the distro.
Now you linked Ubuntu, which is notoriously shit in terms of privacy and freedom and might as well be a windows clone but worse.
Again, free as in freedom not necessarily free beer.
>the system requirements say Ubuntu, that means it won't run on anything else!
lol. Works on my non-Ubuntu machine.
But devs who want to develop for Linux will probably target SteamOS instead of Ubuntu going forward anyway.
seems P5 royal has an extra file for deck that's not being used.
but i know glorious eggroll is working on it, should be fixed in like a week.
>seems P5 royal has an extra file for deck that's not being used.
What does this mean? The devs updated the game to run on Steam Deck while deliberately excluding other Linux machines?
probably the the persona devs made a fix for deck and didn't think of other linux machines, though it seems the file can be transferred (which makes the game work, at least partially) and i don't see any evidence it was malicious, cause devs can give the deck extra/changed files.
id say its not a big deal unless the devs say they don't want Linux machines running the game, my guess is it was just a mistake or oversight.
Oh wait, it's a file that gets downloaded only when installing to Steam Deck? I thought it was a file that only works on Steam Deck or something. I don't know whether that's better or worse.
It means the nips are still braindead when it comes to PCs. They probably just tested it on the Deck and called it a day. Understandable considering none of the devs at Atlus probably even run an actual linux machine.
It's not a Destiny 2 situation where the devs just outright want to spite Linux.
And to elaborate on that it's to do with security patches, fullscreen optimizations, windows timers (TSC, HPET etc.). All older source games run better on Windows 7.
1709 is 8% less
21H2 is 15% less
Debloated or not, doesn't make a difference.
2% in Shadow of Mordor
4% in Wolfenstein: Youngblood.
6% in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Doom Eternal
7% in Detroit: Become Human Benchmark
20% in World of Warcraft
21% in Minecraft
Guys I need help, I compiled Duckstation (just to learn how) but then I realised I don't know how to remove it, there's nothing in the instructions! I used Cmake to compile it, is there a command for Cmake to remove all the files?
Whatever would we do without GE, or the community in general.
Still don't know if I'm okay with playing most games with a compatibility layer since Vulkan should be standard by now
>Still don't know if I'm okay with playing most games with a compatibility layer since Vulkan should be standard by now
Dude, reading the commit apparently they decided to use a deprecated call for file writing, so they probably don't even know what Vulkan is
without the community, linux would have never taken off.
for all its faults, linux is the community, from the casual (i mean casual in a good way) mint user to the gentoo lovers.
Why are they submitting that here. Should really be a MR to wine directly, I have submitted stub like this one multiple times and they all got merged quite fast.
That a stub, wine is full of it and as I said, I have multiple patches like this one that got merged.
Things not accepted upstream and are only in staging, or lose patches is when you make some path hardcoded for a game or some patch that may improve functionality for some programs but make regression in others.
It was just a guess anyway. Also, the maintainer of GE is also the maintainer of wine-staging or something along these lines, so I guess he prioritizes his project to bait patreon money and maybe lazily merges some stuff into staging.
Not really, GE does not contribute a lot to wine.
The actual patch come from a wine contributor so it will get upstreamed, the person submitting the PR to GE doesn't seem to have anything to do with the contributor who wrote that patch.
Not really, GE does not contribute a lot to wine.
The actual patch come from a wine contributor so it will get upstreamed, the person submitting the PR to GE doesn't seem to have anything to do with the contributor who wrote that patch.
Thomas Crider (GloriousEggroll) have 49 contributions to wine-staging and 4 contributions to wine. That not a lot for the amount of time he spend around wine stuff.
Any GIMP bros here? Am I losing my mind or has the last update switched the confirmation buttons in the dialogue windows? Also why aren't they standardised? Ok/confirm ect. should always be in the place.
Can free software stop bleeding market share in video game development? >2014+8 and Godot still doesn't have a fraction of the games Unity has >Papers, Please (one of the most famous Haxe/OpenFL games) has switched to Unity for the mobile ports >Young Horses ditched Irrlicht Engine after being done with Bugsnax >Kenshi 2 will use Unreal Engine instead of OGRE like the original game >Torchlight III uses Unreal Engine instead of OGRE like the two previous games >Apocalypse Studios ditched Open 3D Engine in favor of Unity for Deadhaus Sonata >Lizardcube ditched SoLoud in favor of Wwise in Streets of Rage 4
Unity and Unreal are the present and will be the future of gaming.
Maybe not fall for the meme of "growing your company" and instead focus on what actually works instead of selling your soul to israeli machinations such as Unity and Unreal? Otherwise you end up like Ubuntu where you have to pay them to not get a virus.
At best that only applies for Torchlight (the third installment was developed by another studio) and maybe Kenshi 2.
Maybe not fall for the meme of "growing your company" and instead focus on what actually works instead of selling your soul to israeli machinations such as Unity and Unreal? Otherwise you end up like Ubuntu where you have to pay them to not get a virus.
>israeli machinations such as Unity and Unreal
Cope, sweetie.
Yeah, I asked for help on Ganker yesterday and was afraid to accidentally frick up and lose my files. People tried to help still
I istalled Kubuntu 22.10 on my main pc (ssd+hdd). Disconnected hdd just in case before installing and everything went smooth and fast. Connected this hdd later with thousands media files precious to me and everything was read-only on it, showed that it's impossible to change permissions. I wasn't able to download anything on it, extract archives on it, etc. Tried googling, editing fstab file, chmod command but nothing worked.
Yes, it was not formatted in any way. Before installing anons told me that I'll be able to mount it easily and use like a flash drive but something went wrong with permissions.
I don't know much about mounting drives because Mint does it for me and it just works, but I did the same "disconnect old Windows drive, install Linux on new drive, and reconnect old one" routine when I installed Linux Mint, and I was able to write to the Windows HDD afterwards.
Are you on Mint 21 Vanessa? I'd like to use Mint but it doesn't have KDE Plasma. I really enjoyed using it on live-iso and yesterday for a few hours.
>Is this in BIOS?
It's a setting in Windows.
Looks like this one but I can't be sure it will fix this issue and reinstall everything again just to check.
Thanks, everyone, maybe later I'll try again.
You don't need to reinstall. Just boot into a live ISO and check if you can use the drive there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I remember 100% that I was able to extract and copypaste files while using live-cd before installing. So it was a surprise that I wasn't able to do it after installing.
>filename
They probably removed the indication of Linux support because of the EA Play thing which I'm guessing is Winblows exclusive. At least they didn't nuke the Linux port of the game (although, to be fair, it's probably one of those old ports that technically runs worse than translating the Winblows version to Vulkan using Proton).
i hate nvidia so much it's unreal
anyone else getting horrible stuttering in games after the latest driver update? it's like they want me to buy an amd card. i can't even use the new "open" driver at all, x just crashes infinitely if i switch to it.
>native version runs worse than windows version with proton
Whats her name?
Borderlands prequel sequel
Civ VI
every game
Black Mesa
Does Diablo 2 Resurrected mods work on linux if you add a command line in the Blizzard launcher itself?
This is a weird case because not even the main menu is the same between both versions.
Hellpoint
Pretty much any game ported by Feral Interactive.
Almost every Valve game, lol.
Poor OpenGL performance
Crashes when using voice chat
No multichannel audio support
Their games just using some kind of proprietary OpenGL wrappers, why don't just allow of using proton at this point?
think they're testing vulkan and will hopefully be making the move to it for all their games
Their games don't have native Vulkan renderer, just another proprietary wrapper. I would settle for vkd3d/dxvk at this point
deus ex mankind divided
dota 1 & 2
Killing Floor, native version released 2012. Pretty sure they haven't done anything with it ever since.
But KF runs like dog shit regardless of OS.
Old ones that aren't maintained anymore, untested GameMaker slop, and a few other games by bad developers. Pretty much that's it.
Wrong.
Terraria
Really? I installed it some weeks ago and I didn't notice it was native.
Out of the box it stutters badly and won't run at more than 60 fps. It gets better after you apply the fix from PCGW but it's still worse than the Windows version.
Really? The native version works on my machine. It's also the native version that Valve verified for Steam Deck compatibility. Most ProtonDB reports seem to be saying the native version is fine too; they don't recommend switching to Proton. Really this seems like the dumbest example you could have picked.
>durr works on my machine
Do you have a 60Hz monitor?
The reports are not saying it works fine. Many of them are the usual "runs kinda bad but I'll upvote anyway" cope.
So it runs badly at very high frame rates? Okay. I did run the game at 60 Hz last time I played it, and never imagined it would benefit from a higher frame rate because it's a 2-D pixel-graphics single-player casual indie game, but if it fails to run smoothly at 144 Hz or some other meme refresh rate then I guess that sucks. And no I didn't read every ProtonDB report, but I saw some reports claiming zero problems and I saw zero reports recommending Proton.
The problem is if you run it on a high refresh rate monitor and enable vsync it stutters really badly. It's not like any normal game where it'll just run at stable 60 fps. The experience you get is more like unstable 30 fps.
On Windows disabling vsync unlocks the framerate and makes it run mostly smooth (but still not perfect). The Linux version out of the box does not unlock the framerate and so it still manages to stutter as much as with vsync on. Applying the fix from PCGW unlocks the FPS like on Windows but for some reason it's still less smooth.
its over
free stuff... my greatest weakness...
>free stuff
ubuntu pro is not free, and clearly this is an advert inside the terminal
https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-pro-free/
I don't care a single bit there is a free version. The very fact that there is a paid version of this, and my package manager told me to go look at it tells me I never even need to think about Ubuntu anymore.
This but ironically because im a grown man looking to get work done and not sperg out over two lines of text
>free
>if you want this for your server you have to pay up
>the entire idea is that linux is free and open source
sure, free.
>Ubuntu has had an Amazon application as apart of the base install and now this
lmao, lol even. Just use windows if you think this is okay.
linux is free... unless you want security updates...
L.M.A.O.
i switched to debian like 5 years ago and never looked back, its basically the same but without the bloat and AIDS
Shit, its real, I though it was an edit. what the frick? I know ubuntu went to shit a long time ago but how much further can they go?
uhhhhhhhhh linux sisters???????????
does this crap leak over into mint?
haven't seen anything like it yet. I also don't use parallels.
PHEW
thought some of the stuff might leak into mint as part of the ubuntu base.
Just use the white man distro
Linux is free as in freedom. Nobody can stop you from selling distros and services relating to the distro.
Now you linked Ubuntu, which is notoriously shit in terms of privacy and freedom and might as well be a windows clone but worse.
Again, free as in freedom not necessarily free beer.
>ub*ntu
yikes
>using israelitebuntu
Oh no, they've ruined Ubuntu, the one and only Linux distribution to which there are no alternatives!
This but unironically. You think people make games for Fedora? Go frick yourself. Linux is dead.
>the system requirements say Ubuntu, that means it won't run on anything else!
lol. Works on my non-Ubuntu machine.
But devs who want to develop for Linux will probably target SteamOS instead of Ubuntu going forward anyway.
Guess I swapped from Ubuntu at a good time.
MX-Linux has been nice and comfy thus far.
IS Kubuntu safe?
Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE anon, what do you think?
rip
bro your KDE neon?
>ubuntu
Any newbies serious about trying Linux out should try Fedora.
when the frick is halo mcc online going to fricking work
i use arch btw
>EAC borked again
wanted to play ER, but maybe I should take a break from it anyway
seamless coop works fine, so I guess that it's EAC or glibc
>P5R is Deck Verified
>works great on it
>doesn't on a linux desktop
???
seems P5 royal has an extra file for deck that's not being used.
but i know glorious eggroll is working on it, should be fixed in like a week.
>seems P5 royal has an extra file for deck that's not being used.
What does this mean? The devs updated the game to run on Steam Deck while deliberately excluding other Linux machines?
probably the the persona devs made a fix for deck and didn't think of other linux machines, though it seems the file can be transferred (which makes the game work, at least partially) and i don't see any evidence it was malicious, cause devs can give the deck extra/changed files.
id say its not a big deal unless the devs say they don't want Linux machines running the game, my guess is it was just a mistake or oversight.
Oh wait, it's a file that gets downloaded only when installing to Steam Deck? I thought it was a file that only works on Steam Deck or something. I don't know whether that's better or worse.
It means the nips are still braindead when it comes to PCs. They probably just tested it on the Deck and called it a day. Understandable considering none of the devs at Atlus probably even run an actual linux machine.
It's not a Destiny 2 situation where the devs just outright want to spite Linux.
>linux
>gaming
15% better FPS on Linux.
https://flightlessmango.com/benchmarks/LfE_EQQvD5o
but if you dont want that feel free to stay on Windows.
Yes. Windows 7 has 15% more performance than Windows 10 / 11 in CS:GO as well. Not unknown.
Any actual relevant games that aren't running at 800+ FPS?
And to elaborate on that it's to do with security patches, fullscreen optimizations, windows timers (TSC, HPET etc.). All older source games run better on Windows 7.
1709 is 8% less
21H2 is 15% less
Debloated or not, doesn't make a difference.
2% in Shadow of Mordor
4% in Wolfenstein: Youngblood.
6% in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Doom Eternal
7% in Detroit: Become Human Benchmark
20% in World of Warcraft
21% in Minecraft
Any relevant games other than Minecraft?
Pretty much any Vulkan based game has better performance on Linux
Black person
You mean Deck gaming.
Guys I need help, I compiled Duckstation (just to learn how) but then I realised I don't know how to remove it, there's nothing in the instructions! I used Cmake to compile it, is there a command for Cmake to remove all the files?
https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation
try 'sudo make uninstall'
Say thank you to our savior.
huh, I didn't know Gabe made Wine.
he made it better
IIRC, he was the bigger investor.
every single game was a colossal pain in ass to install before proton, not it just works
>not
*now
i use fedora
incorrect tool for the job
I have an awful potato computer. How's Potionomics on Linux/Proton?
is good
Like platinum? Really?
>Potionomics
all evidence on protondb suggests it runs great.
am i just crazy or does mcc run better than it does on pc
no wonder why microsoft is trying to shut this shit down
STUPID OVERWATCH 2 WONT SAVE ITS SHADERS SO I HAVE TO COMPILE FOR HOURS
Tux Racer my fellow fedora
>its real
DEEPEST LINUX LORE
>https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/pull/80
Persona 5 missing call already fixed in proton-ge, just compile and play
Whatever would we do without GE, or the community in general.
Still don't know if I'm okay with playing most games with a compatibility layer since Vulkan should be standard by now
>Still don't know if I'm okay with playing most games with a compatibility layer since Vulkan should be standard by now
Microsoft
True. DirectX trash being shilled more.
>Still don't know if I'm okay with playing most games with a compatibility layer since Vulkan should be standard by now
Dude, reading the commit apparently they decided to use a deprecated call for file writing, so they probably don't even know what Vulkan is
without the community, linux would have never taken off.
for all its faults, linux is the community, from the casual (i mean casual in a good way) mint user to the gentoo lovers.
Now, they just have to remove denuvo and I will play it.
Why are they submitting that here. Should really be a MR to wine directly, I have submitted stub like this one multiple times and they all got merged quite fast.
I assume because it's a hack that does not implement the functions correctly.
That a stub, wine is full of it and as I said, I have multiple patches like this one that got merged.
Things not accepted upstream and are only in staging, or lose patches is when you make some path hardcoded for a game or some patch that may improve functionality for some programs but make regression in others.
It was just a guess anyway. Also, the maintainer of GE is also the maintainer of wine-staging or something along these lines, so I guess he prioritizes his project to bait patreon money and maybe lazily merges some stuff into staging.
Not really, GE does not contribute a lot to wine.
The actual patch come from a wine contributor so it will get upstreamed, the person submitting the PR to GE doesn't seem to have anything to do with the contributor who wrote that patch.
Thomas Crider (GloriousEggroll) have 49 contributions to wine-staging and 4 contributions to wine. That not a lot for the amount of time he spend around wine stuff.
I'm playing Resident Evil Remake and the pointer is showing. How do I fix it?
Any GIMP bros here? Am I losing my mind or has the last update switched the confirmation buttons in the dialogue windows? Also why aren't they standardised? Ok/confirm ect. should always be in the place.
Wrong board
Sorry but the original post clearly says gaming.
Thanks for bumping though.
cope, Black person
Larn and Nethack, though they supercede Linux by almost a decade.
>proprietary software
>linux
>gaming
Sorry but we already played video games on Linux so it's too late to convince us that we can't.
Thanks for bumping though.
Can free software stop bleeding market share in video game development?
>2014+8 and Godot still doesn't have a fraction of the games Unity has
>Papers, Please (one of the most famous Haxe/OpenFL games) has switched to Unity for the mobile ports
>Young Horses ditched Irrlicht Engine after being done with Bugsnax
>Kenshi 2 will use Unreal Engine instead of OGRE like the original game
>Torchlight III uses Unreal Engine instead of OGRE like the two previous games
>Apocalypse Studios ditched Open 3D Engine in favor of Unity for Deadhaus Sonata
>Lizardcube ditched SoLoud in favor of Wwise in Streets of Rage 4
Unity and Unreal are the present and will be the future of gaming.
Imagine seething so much about some third-worlders doing stuff for fun.
>company that grows and needs outside talent switches to popular technology to make hiring easier
surprise
Maybe not fall for the meme of "growing your company" and instead focus on what actually works instead of selling your soul to israeli machinations such as Unity and Unreal? Otherwise you end up like Ubuntu where you have to pay them to not get a virus.
At best that only applies for Torchlight (the third installment was developed by another studio) and maybe Kenshi 2.
>israeli machinations such as Unity and Unreal
Cope, sweetie.
Tried switching to linux yesterday and it didn't even allow me to write files on my hdd. Unfortunate, I like KDE so much.
Works on my machine
Can you explain in more detail
Yeah, I asked for help on Ganker yesterday and was afraid to accidentally frick up and lose my files. People tried to help still
I istalled Kubuntu 22.10 on my main pc (ssd+hdd). Disconnected hdd just in case before installing and everything went smooth and fast. Connected this hdd later with thousands media files precious to me and everything was read-only on it, showed that it's impossible to change permissions. I wasn't able to download anything on it, extract archives on it, etc. Tried googling, editing fstab file, chmod command but nothing worked.
The drive is formatted as NTFS, right?
Yes, it was not formatted in any way. Before installing anons told me that I'll be able to mount it easily and use like a flash drive but something went wrong with permissions.
Are you on linux right now?
No, I returned on win10 ltsc because without being able to write on this hdd I can't use my PC.
Is this in BIOS?
Yes, ntfs-3g was installed and succesfully mounting my hdd. I also had an admin privilege in user settings.
>Is this in BIOS?
It's a setting in Windows.
You need to boot into Windows and either reboot (not shutdown) or go into settings and disable fast startup and then shutdown.
Have you installed NTFS-3G?
It's gonna be useful to read your disk that's mounted in NTFS filesystem.
I don't know much about mounting drives because Mint does it for me and it just works, but I did the same "disconnect old Windows drive, install Linux on new drive, and reconnect old one" routine when I installed Linux Mint, and I was able to write to the Windows HDD afterwards.
Are you on Mint 21 Vanessa? I'd like to use Mint but it doesn't have KDE Plasma. I really enjoyed using it on live-iso and yesterday for a few hours.
Looks like this one but I can't be sure it will fix this issue and reinstall everything again just to check.
Thanks, everyone, maybe later I'll try again.
You don't need to reinstall. Just boot into a live ISO and check if you can use the drive there.
I remember 100% that I was able to extract and copypaste files while using live-cd before installing. So it was a surprise that I wasn't able to do it after installing.
I had this issue and it fixed it for me, as long as fstab is correct it should work
>Are you on Mint 21 Vanessa?
I'm still on 20.3; when I first installed Mint, I think it was 18 or 19.
Which version of linux is most similar to windows 7?
pop os
back in the early 2000s people used to have a dual boot menu for linux/windows
anyone know the name of the boot loader to select an OS, without going into bios every startup?
Grub?
Burg?
>Burg
yes burg thank you
Grub and systemd-boot can both do that and probably most of them
Linux is free if you don't value your time
Windows is free if you don't value your freedom
Using arguments from youtube is good if you don't have your own brain
You wincucks sure value your time, always being a pain in the ass in the Linux Threads
@615877684
>YES GOY WASTE YOUR MONEY NO MY MICROSHAFT NIGGBLOWS 9/11 OR ELSE YOURE AN ANTIsEMITE OYY VEEEYy
this thread needs more unsolicited screenshots of games running on GNU/Linux
Do emulated games count?
why would they not count?
yes, of course
Wine is literally an emulator after all :^)
>filename
They probably removed the indication of Linux support because of the EA Play thing which I'm guessing is Winblows exclusive. At least they didn't nuke the Linux port of the game (although, to be fair, it's probably one of those old ports that technically runs worse than translating the Winblows version to Vulkan using Proton).
What's up gamers
how happy is Valve now that their bet on Linux has started to pay off after 10 years?
They probably aren't celebrating when there's still such a long way to go
what are the advantages of me switching from arch to fedora
i hate nvidia so much it's unreal
anyone else getting horrible stuttering in games after the latest driver update? it's like they want me to buy an amd card. i can't even use the new "open" driver at all, x just crashes infinitely if i switch to it.