>Literally jobbed to a guy that couldn't make it in SOLDIER mentally and it was a cheap sneak attack

>Literally jobbed to a guy that couldn't make it in SOLDIER mentally and it was a cheap sneak attack
Why do people hype this guy up again?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just a byproduct of the game's popularity that affected even the original creators. I cannot think of a greater high I have gotten from a video game's story than the Sephiroth twist. The guy lorded himself over Cloud the entire game, making him feel weak and insane. Then, instead of just making so Cloud needs to nut up and belive in himself, which would have been a fine enough arc as is, it turns out Cloud ALREADY beat Sephiroth. Not just that, he fricking humiliated the guy and defeated him with pure tard strength. Sephiroth has been actung so cool all game long when he's just been a seething little gay. I have no nostalgia for 7, played when I was already an adult, and I am still surprised by how much I genuinely enjoyed its story.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Partially because the plot of the game is literally Sephiroth gaslighting Cloud into believing he's pathetic and doesn't stand a chance despite being the one person who already kicked his ass. Partially because after Sephiroth falls into the life stream he awakens to his Jenova power and starts getting even stronger absorbing the planet's knowledge and gathering Jenova cells to build his new body.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >"My mom is an alien. Guess I'd better destroy the planet."
    >Turns out it's not even his mom.
    What a fricking idiot.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The moral of the game is to not be a gaslit moron.cloud perseveres while sephiroth stays a dumb homosexual

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    In the original: he was deep in his mania and extremely distracted by Jenova.
    In the retcon: he was exhausted after defeating Zack, another SOLDIER 1st Class and runner-up strongest man in the world.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >In the retcon: he was exhausted after defeating Zack
      That's not a retcon. Zack did confront him in the reactor core he just got (literally) BTFO
      >runner-up strongest man in the world.
      That's more of a retcon. They really cheapen the original by exaggerating the shit out of stuff like that. Sucking off Zack in that moment, and right before his death, is dumb.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't clear that defeating Zack was in any way an imposition on Sephiroth's abilities in the original. But in Crisis Core you give him a good beating before going down.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sort of this but the idea was that he was so indifferent to Cloud that he didn't even consider that he'd be a problem let alone a reason that there'd be a gaping hole in his back. Also this

      In FF7, he's helped along by the initial impressions you get off of how people talk about him. When "The Great Sephiroth" gets namedropped for the first time in the Promise cutscene, Tifa goes stock-still. Then Cloud suddenly drops later while other stuff is going on he hears Sephiroth say something threatening. And the part of Cloud's story where you see him work before he breaks emphasize the raw difference in power between you, with no counterweight. And so on.
      The cumulative effect is that it makes Cloud's realizing the truth about himself and how he overtook Sephiroth through sheer force of will is much more cathartic than if they had made the swordsman seem vulnerable beforehand. It's not as much about the sequence of events itself but the effect the revelation has on the momentum of the cast.
      Past FF7 proper and into the Compilation nonsense, it's about Nomura being unable to let go of 'his' character, similar to Motomu Toriyama's obsession with trying to make Lightning the most powerful FF character in history.

      cultural context outside of the game continues building Sephiroth up far beyond what the game itself does to the point where it reflects poorly, but this isn't really the fault of FF7 itself rather than things like Kingdom Hearts.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, he was going through some serious shit at the time. I cannot stress enough how fricked he was in the head mentally, AND he had just got done fighting someone who was in SOLDIER, and Cloud's sneak attack in the reactor core was pretty heavy. He all but impaled Sephiroth from what I recall.

    So by the time they got to the bridge Sephiroth was very tired, extremely upset, and heavily injured. Even with all that, Cloud still should have lost. It's incredible that he won, and the way that he won. Cloud really had it in him. He wasn't a failure. He came through in that moment.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget he had spent a whole week without sleep, food or water. No matter how powerful of a SOLDIER he was, he was still human and that must have weakened him significantly.
      Still, what Cloud did was incredible because he was very strong even without enhancements, he just was mentally weak so he didn't make SOLDIER.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, in his defense, he didn't "job" to Cloud, he fought the entire FF7 party (8 people), and then only after being beaten down twice, then Cloud dealt the finishing blow.

    8-on-1 is a hard matchup, even for Sephiroth.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I mean, in his defense, he didn't "job"
      no defense needed job means absolutely nothing. it's Ganker shitposting.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >jobbed
    ask me how i know you are of Hispanic decent and you have a big interest in all things dragon ball

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    In FF7, he's helped along by the initial impressions you get off of how people talk about him. When "The Great Sephiroth" gets namedropped for the first time in the Promise cutscene, Tifa goes stock-still. Then Cloud suddenly drops later while other stuff is going on he hears Sephiroth say something threatening. And the part of Cloud's story where you see him work before he breaks emphasize the raw difference in power between you, with no counterweight. And so on.
    The cumulative effect is that it makes Cloud's realizing the truth about himself and how he overtook Sephiroth through sheer force of will is much more cathartic than if they had made the swordsman seem vulnerable beforehand. It's not as much about the sequence of events itself but the effect the revelation has on the momentum of the cast.
    Past FF7 proper and into the Compilation nonsense, it's about Nomura being unable to let go of 'his' character, similar to Motomu Toriyama's obsession with trying to make Lightning the most powerful FF character in history.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's realistic. Even the best soldier in the world can die from getting stabbed from behind in a bar fight. Elite special forces operators die all the time from the most mundane shit, like helicopter crashes, drowning, falls, electrical shocks, etc. Even the best aren't invincible.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who hasn't played a FF game past 10, what's the deal with Lightning? I remember people were mad as hell when the games were coming out, but I have no idea about it. Are the newer ones any good? My favorites were 4 and 6. Still haven't played 8 or 9 sadly.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Well play 8 and 9 for starters

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I will. I bought them during the last FF sale, but I kinda wanna do a replay of 6 or 7 first. But yeah, what's up with Lightning?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          She's Toriyama's waifu and is the closest thing to a genuine Poochie that I've ever seen. She's pretty much infallible and the story wanks her almost at every turn, with it getting worse and worse as the trilogy goes on.
          In the first game she's a hyper-competent, no nonsense soldier who is an butthole to everyone, yet everyone treats her with respect
          In the second god she is hand picked by a Goddess to be her warrior or whatever. The rest of the game is her sister Serah asking "where's Lightning" (with access to a time machine)
          The third game practically ascends her to godhood, and literally ends with her being brought to the real world

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Holy frick, that's bad. She's not even the best-looking FF girl, Terra mogs her in every way.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Your post is an entire thread by itself, but basically FF13 was panned as a corridor/on rails game that didnt leave much in the way of actual gameplay or player expression.

      As for Lightning/Claire herself, Nomura just really liked the character and started putting her in everything basically to the point she overshadowed Cloud, Squall, Tidus... series mainstay protags just because he liked her so much. I mean, she did basically get 3 games, and was in all the spinoffs.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      FF13 is kind of mediocre with a character that was shilled super hard, got multiple games, featured in IRL commercials for shit like cars and fashion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxCr4q1lUa0

      It doesn't help that she's insufferable, as it most of the FF13 main cast because the main theme of the game is them growing and overcoming flaws. The problem is that whenever FF characters appear in crossovers or new media they tend to be the early story arc versions (see: Cloud, Cecil etc). So to anyone who didn't jump to try FF13 see also seems like a irredeemable b***h. The game itself is OKAY but the constant party switching and long cutscenes can be tiresome, eventually the game opens up both mapwise and combat wise but by the time you get there you've been playing the game for 20+ hours so it became a meme. Having played all 16 FFs I'd say it'll either be a 5, 7, or 9 out of 10 experience for you. But I wouldn't recommend it over 80% of the other mainline games.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Sephiroth is a PLANET BUSTER
    >Fails to destroy a planet despite trying to the entire game.
    Why are power scalers like this?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Supernova destroys several planets

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >attack ends with the """"sun""""" going supernova
        >The sun is still around after the fight
        Didn't destroy real planets, I don't care what moronic shit the director says outside of the narrative.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That's an illusion. Even Meteor doesn't destroy the planet, and do you think Sephiroth is able to cast a spell stronger than Meteor?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Supernova is a psychic attack. Sephiroth is showing the party what he will do with Meteor if he succeeds and the parry is sinking into despair/shock. That's why Supernova can't kill, it can only reduce your HP to 1.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >this is what death battle brains believe
        Vergil won

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Death Battle is dead, Vergilgays got the last laugh.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      but he didn't want to destroy the world though? he wanted to crack it open like a coconut and drink thr green juice, then use what was left to travel the cosmos.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >then use what was left to travel the cosmos.
        He was going to become a god and remake the world according to his desires. Don't confuse Advent Children for FFVII.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Sephiroth is a ripoff of Ashram

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