>literally just murdered a guy because they were greedy
Are these the most canonically evil Pokemon in the series?
>literally just murdered a guy because they were greedy
>literally just murdered a guy because they were greedy
Are these the most canonically evil Pokemon in the series?
ditto is a failed BOW
giratina molested a young cynthia
hypo kindnaps kids
>giratina molested a young cynthia
Pics or it didnt happen
It didn't happen... but I still want to see pics.
>ditto is a failed BOW
>giratina molested a young cynthia
>hypo kindnaps kids
all 3 of these are just fan-theory shit
The Hypno shit is from the mainline games
We really dont know what Hypno's intentions were there, Lostelle was lost and Hypno just happened to show up.
The Pokedex give a pretty clear idea what its intentions are:
> When it is very hungry, it puts humans it meets to sleep, then it feasts on their dreams.
hypno does kidnap people, but of course porn addicts automatically think it means rape when it's just to keep them as its food supply (they eat dreams)
Hypno kidnapped Lostelle in the games and a bunch of kids in the anime
In main series yes. Not even any "pokedex entries are exaggerated" they just striaght up murdered a guy out of greed and were about to do the same for Ogerpon once revived.
Outside of that it's pretty much just Darkrai in PMD Explorers for wanting to cause total extinction to live in a living nightmare
>Believing ogre lies
Nah, but they are the most spiteful.
Yes and are better for it. i like it cause Chien-Pao already has the DID NOTHING WRONG covered for the generation.
Well if you consider how in PLA any pokemon wants your blood no.
Let's be fair here, most mons still kinda mind their own business in PLA unless you actively seek them out, the Loyal 3 actively went and hunted down the foreigner and Ogrepon because they just heard about the masks. it is basically the difference of getting mauled due going in on a wild animals territory and getting murdered by burglars who wants your garden gnomeelry.
>Ogrepon
Ogerpon*
The Paras wanted to kill because they are violent bugshrooms, the Loyal Three however plotted a fucking murder.
Technically it was only a single Hypno kidnapping ONE child, but it did happen at least.
shit forgot about the thing in FRLG
In Pla pokemon and humans live in fear of eachother because of giratina.
It made raging alphas that killed people
How can they be greedy if pokemon are just animals?
that's the thing, pokemon aren't animals, skinfag
Yes this is the first time a pokemon was portrayed as being evil and not misunderstood or acting by instinct. They knew what they were doing and didn't get redeemed
Could they at least have given these so called villains cooler designs? Imagine Getting killed by these chumps. How insulting.
I fucking love them they have a 3 stooges vibe
They have a lot of personality in game.
Monkidori is brains, Okidoki is Brawler and Fanphesit is a proud damsel
its the brains, the brawn, and the bishonen, a classic villain trio
>muh personality
Is giving them "personality""""", and making them not look like shit mutually exclusive?
Nope, just regular Yokai.
they're not yokai they're fairy tale characters
so they're yokai then
not all fairy tale characters are yokai anon
they're literally just a talking dog/bird/monkey
and they are also yokai.
I'm pretty sure a supernaturally trio of talking animals would fall under yokai even if they aren't literal shapeshifting monsters.
yokai aren't just whatever shit you put, they have specific names. talking animals are just typical talking animals.
>yokai aren't just whatever shit you put, they have specific names. talking animals are just typical talking animals.
>kitsune are literally just foxes
kitsune are kitsune anon, with complete lore about them
there is no "generic yokai dog/monkey/pheasant", they are literally characters from a folk tale
yveltal WILL eventually kill every living thing.
Not if Zygarde maintains the order
>Zygarde literally doing it for free
heh
>D-DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING OF M-ME WHEN IT'S THE END TIMES!
Cool.
Fug is bored and will do the job for fun.
cant even maintain his own game
Who?
The guy was Don Momotaro
It was justified
So are they supposed to be villain archetypes you see in alot of cartoons and anime?
>Monkey is the mad scientist/brains
>Dog is the meathead
>Bird is the pretty boy snob
I think they are just supposed to be the Doronbogang, the only real hitch is the Male-lock on the bird.
>Zygarde
>Doing its job on time
>Ever
LOL.
>Doronbo
Honestly I thought of these three immediately instead, considering the gender lock.
>gets killed off in the manga
>lives in the anime
Sailor Moon was really full of disparity
The 90's anime really liked redeeming villains for some reason, it was weird.
It's the Doronbo trope except the Lady Doronjo expy is a femboy
I was expecting them to be cunts given how this was probably always intended to be a subverted Momotaro story but did anyone expect the Lousy Three to be THIS deranged?
I read someone's theory that the purple hoops they have are actually chains, like they were criminals or something. Idk who'd chain a bro by his forehead though
I call 'em the 'Asshole Trio'
It's hard to say if they're genuinely evil or if they've been corrupted, the Scarlet Pokedex entries all say their Toxic Chains are the source of their enhanced attributes, and the blurbs from when you go after them as Titan Pokemon imply they were normal Pokemon who all had desires (Wisdom, Power, Beauty) for attributes they lacked until something changed them.
I'm willing to bet the Toxic Chains are a creation of the Tera Crystals that drove them all bad, much like how Turo/Sada go insane as they pursue their own desires.
Also their hidden abilities being Guard Dog, Frisk, and Technician.
Maybe their good forms will have that Sentai look like the festival masks,
Most curiously their Pokédex category is the Retainer Pokémon, as in a vassal or servant. Furthermore they also arrived to Kitakami from a distant land like Ogerpon and her original trainer. Who the hell is their master?
Nobunaga Momotaro pokemon soon
The other interesting thing is that they clearly have a trainer in the textbox when chasing Ogrepon in the signpost story, it is honestly pretty likely they had a trainer/wielder considering that and said wielder likely helped establishing the narrative Ogrepon so that they got to be the Heroes. And if they had atrainer then they too fall into "No bad poges only bad trainers ;_;" narrative.
>And if they had atrainer then they too fall into "No bad poges only bad trainers ;_;" narrative.
Even if they were being led by a trainer, Pokemon are flash robots. If they went along with it, they were clearly fine with the prospect of stealing from and killing a guy.
Also, they went straight to fuck Ogerpon up the moment they got the masks back, so clearly their hands aren't clean either way.
>are flash robots
AREN'T flesh robots
I think the story might be a weird reverse Wizard of Oz on some level.
Scarecrow, Tinman, Lion = Want Brains, Heart, Courage
Munkidori, Fezandipity, Okidogi = Want Brains, Beauty, Strength
Wizard of Oz = Important figure who hides behind a giant green head
Ogerpon = Important figure who hides behind a (sometimes) giant green mask
If you want to be really autistic you could say Carmine's Poochyena is Toto, but I think that's just incidental. I'm not sure what the reason behind the Wizard of Oz theme would be (if it's intentional), maybe some kind of association between the Emerald City and the crystals in Area Zero?
>Wizard of AZ
someone's getting crushed by a house
.
I'm losing my fucking marbles.
Actually, I just fucking realized something. All the legendaries we've had in this gen so far have been responsible for death in one fashion or another.
>The Second Koraidon/Miraidon that mauled the original professer for intervening in their fight
>The Loyal Three murdered Ogerpon's friend just to steal her masks
>Ogerpon herself beat the Loyal Three to death with a club
What the fuck is he gonna do? Murder Kieran?
>What the fuck is he gonna do?
It's not what he's going to do - it's what he's already done.
If you are guaranteed to encounter them on every playthrough and don't need an event/code to obtain them, then it's a Legendary. Mythicals are event-only exclusives. Since you'll always meet these three (and Ogerpon) on every playthrough of the DLC, even if you reset your data, they're clearly just Legendaries.
The Ruinous Quartet also are pretty directly connected to death
And the crystals in the Crystal Pool which are clearly the same kind of Crystal as the type connected to Terastalization are said to allow communication with the dead
Then you have the Ruinous Quartet who are literally warped, twisted human souls given form to bring ruin upon the world, and The Paradox Pokemon themselves could cause mass death and devastation if they got out en masse due to how brutal and unnatural they are
I predict the turtle is some sort of Pokemon Eldritch thing
Did I seriously lose my train of thought so fast that I mentioned the Ruinous Quartet twice?
herself beat the Loyal Three to death with a club
Funniest thing I read this week ngl
Why didn't Arceus banish them to the Distortion World?
Because then Giratina would have friends, and can't let that happen.
Are they legendarys or mythicals
They're the neutral evil to the treasure of ruin chaotic evilness. They literally shaped some of the land masses in Paldea with their destruction.
The Treasures are basically the victims though aside from the fish.
Probably the Paldean Emperor if the timeline matches since we know he was collecting valuable foreign shit AND was a fucking asshole, makes sense he could sent them after hearing about the VALUABLE AND PRETTY Foreign Masks.
They still caused massive amounts of destruction either in an ignorant way or a chaotic way which got a lot of people killed. They weren't sealed for nothing like the Regis which people just feared.
The dex even makes it clear that they are chaotic evil fuckers
Wo-Chein - Drains the life out of vegetation, killing all plant life in an area and as such causes death by mass famine
Chien-Pao - Frolics in avalanches it causes, and can control 100 tons of snow to create said avalanches
Ting-Lu - Casually creates large fissures which... Admittedly is the lamest of the three considering Earthquake and Fissure are moves found all over the place
Chi-Yu - The fish you mentioned
>Chi-Yu
What's the lore behind the Treasures Pokemon?
they were treasures that were passed from person to person until the greedy king of Paldea bought them. Eventually all the malice and hated that they carried on them turned them into Pokemon and they destroyed the castle and got loose
Wo-Chein is the incarnation of a person's grudge over being punished for writing down the king's misdeeds on the tablets that make up its shell
Chien-Pao is the incarnation of the hate of those slain by the sword that makes up its fangs
Ting-Lu is the incarnation of the fear poured into an ancient vessel
Chi-Yu is the incarnation of envy caused by the very beads that make up its eyes, said beads sparking multiple wars
Basically, in any RPG, those would all be considered pretty evil, and not victims
Also The King of Paldea, specifically being as evil and greedy as he was, was the catalyst for the Treasures turning into Pokemon. He must have been a pretty evil bastard too considering that Wo-Chien was created from the grudge of a single man and the record of the king's misdeeds
Well I think the tablets were from way before the king of Paldea got them.
bamboo/wooden tablets were a fairly common writing implement in ancient china. the king probably bought them as a novelty but thats headcanon
Cursed yes, but not Pokemon
That would be interesting I think
the items were already cursed before the king bought them you know
Somebody else also pointed out that the Loyal Three are the Retainer Pokemon and that they very well could have been the King's own personal Pokemon, sent to retrieve rare treasures (since why else would they be called the Retainer Pokemon?)
So if that's the case, then one of the misdeeds was sending out those three Pokemon despite their propensity to murder
What would they have been before transforming?
A weak dog, a dumb ass monkey, and a pheasant that some of Ganker is convinced is FtM because Pokemon need to follow real life rules for bird plumage, apparently
But it doesn't look like a male pheasant?
It is 100% male
Well people that obsess over trannies are just as mentally ill as the trannies so just ignore them
You know those designs are pretty Japanese in origin though, especially the monkey Maybe they were loyal and unchanged until getting to Poke Japan before something changed them?
The map blurbs present when they scatter around Kitakami as Titan Pokemon offer brief folklore that basically describes them as ordinary Pokemon who completely lack the traits that they became famous for, but greatly desired to achieve them.
If they truly are the king's retainers, it's entirely possible he could have manipulated them into joining his side by promising to grant them what they sought. Of course, this was achieved through the Toxic Chains they all wear, which presumably caused the trio to become just as vile as him.
Does ANYTHING in the DLC explain how the hell they pulled off becoming titans?
It's heavily implied they were drawing power from the Tera Crystals in the masks they held, which is actually a viable source considering Tera Raid Den Pokemon are unnaturally large until they've been subdued.
That makes sense, unlike 54472284 since nothing implies the food the villagers fed them had Herba Mystica properties
The herbs that the villagers fed them. Learn to read
They themselves are innocent but highly dangerous pokemon.
They were sealed within 4 treasures instead of pokeballs and somehow ended up in the hands of the Paldean King thanks to a not!Chinese merchant.
The King used them to commit attrocities until his servants started to bteray him one by one breaking the sealing items thus freeing the pokemon.
>Wo chien was freed when the kings scribe damaged the Tablets of Lies by writing down the kings crimes and the truth behind them.
>Chien Pao was freed when the sword of Hatred which was used for wanton murder and executions by the King got broken in half.
>Ting Lu broke free when the Bowl of Fear used for blood sacrifices got cracked.
>Chi Yu was never fully contained in the Beeds of Envy and given how flashy and powerful it is others started to desire it trying to use it as a claim to the throne.
My theory is that the Beeds of Envy were forged from discarded Misdreavus garden gnomeels which are supposed to glow and feed the pokemon by absorbing negative emotions.
They are not evil. Their being just creates suffering.
>The mask maker was Kieran great-great-great-great-great-grandfather
>this means it happened approximately 200 years ago
>Heath expedition was 200 years ago
The timeline is a tad suHispanicious
Don't forget that it was Ogerpon's original trainer who brought the Tera gems the mask maker used to make the mask, so it was likely he was from Paldea. Maybe Ogerpon originally was from Area Zero
>Don't forget that it was Ogerpon's original trainer who brought the Tera gems the mask maker used to make the mask
I don't think the outsider had the gems, I don't remember reading that ogerpon trainer handed the crystals to the mask maker to make the masks it was the mask maker that had them and put them in the masks as ornaments
>"He made several masks for the man and the ogre"
>"The masks were brilliant works, adorned with gems the man brought from somewhere far away"
I thought it was the trainer rather than the mask maker since he was usually referred to as "the man"
Probably a language thing, I guess I'll need to read it again to figure it out better
Correction needed
Don't do it anon! They'll badly poison your wiener!
>the evil themed legendaries of S/V has been some of the outright most either born from evil, or just plain evil fuckers in the entire franchise
>also has the most bopping and playful themes of the S/V
Still can't listen to the Ruins' theme without TUNAK TUNAK
that one version where he keyed it correctly is so genuinely good though
I wonder if there’s a secret legendary that isn’t Terapagos. Considering that Indigo Disk is inspired by Urashima Taro. Terapagos would represent the turtle that Taro saved/took to the underwater Dragon Palace. So maybe there’s a Pokemon representing the Dragon King in that story
what do you think kieran is going to be releasing to achieve his power at the very end of the two dlcs? it's very obviously going to be the "calyrex shadow/ice rider" of this gen
why is the pokemon world such a dangerous shithole
People who want to live there think it's all cool because, "Well if a kid can save the world", forgetting that the kid we play as tends to be a prodigy and that real life battles would be FAR more complicated than, "Pick super effective move and win"
The Pokemon World is basically a hellhole wrapped up in kiddy friendly packaging
They haven't exactly hidden the fact that Briar's going to be evil as fuck once the second DLC hits. They always reveal too quickly with the NPCs eyes. Just like how people figured out Hastel was a dragon trainer upon first view of his eyes.
It wasn't even the eyes that did it for me. Just her general silhouette made me go, "Yeah she'd stab me if it meant getting what she wants"
Not to mention that she's Heath's descendent. If there was one major lesson to learn from Teal Mask was "history may not be what it seems to be" and Briar keeps making note about how unjustly ostracized Heath was. Perhaps the lesson here was, there was a just reason as to why he was ostracized and Heath's story is the invert of the story in Teal Mask.
Keiran will wish to be stronger and then become max nen style Gon and kill his sister
whoever designed this and the new ursaring need to be fired
If they ever got additional members/different forms like the Beasts/Swords/Birds/Genies/Regis, what do you think they'd be like?
An additional member I could see is a twisted take on Momotaro, either the trio's initial master before they came to Kitakami or the revived form of the hinted OG trainer. Maybe it could sport a Poison/Dark "delinquent gang leader" vibe alongside the obvious peach motif.
Probably their form before getting their wishes and chains and losing the poison type with it.
>Small weak Dogmon.
>Brainlet Monkey.
>Bird would be a Mimikyu situation where it has fully covered itself up with something because it feels it is so hideous.
For added pottery add in some additional theming so each have some obvious relation to what the Kitakami prayed to them for.
Some other entity related to those fucking chains, and if the next DLC doesn't explain it, maybe how it tied into the resurrection. Also noticed jut a lot of "magical" items in this gen, with the Masks, Chains, and Treasures
>Also noticed jut a lot of "magical" items in this gen, with the Masks, Chains, and Treasures
i mean, there's always been magical shit in pokemon
ruby/sapphire orbs to control the primal forces of land and sea
the red chain to bind the gods of time and space
the entire concept of the tapus is based on worship and magic
the sword/shield is literally just a dumbed down version of arthurian legends
it's never been as PRONOUNCED as magical as in S/V but it's always been there, but they've also never gone as deeply into the whole "unknown" aspect of pokemon as hard as this one by just basically refusing to give us the actual story of stuff like, area zero which we'll have to wait until post-second DLC to get answers on
I want more full-on antagonist Pokemon.
i must be fucking dumb because it just hit me that the dlcs are time-based too. teal mask deals with stuff in the past and very rural while indigo disk is going to be very futuristic.