>Mage: I command the power of elements, reality itself bends to my will, the very concept if time is my plaything

>Mage: I command the power of elements, reality itself bends to my will, the very concept if time is my plaything
>Thief: I become invisible to the eye, i sneak behind unsuspecting victims and can just as easily expertly extract their wealth as I can end their lives, I set intricate traps and use various devices and poisons to gain an advantage
>Fighter: I HOLD BIG STICK I HIT WITH BIG STICK HUIRRRR

Why would anyone ever want to pick fighter in any game when there are other choices?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a sense of satisfaction to be found in standing toe to toe with magic or spells or traps or whatever else the world throws at you through pure brute strength and determination.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly believe people who choose warrior are DYELs who consider it a power fantasy and have an inferiority comp-

      There it is

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah because "muscle man scary, I wish I had magic powers to beat up all the big people >:(" isn't a power fantasy or symptom of an inferiority complex.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn't know. I've been lifting since I was 17.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    concept artists/designers always make the nerd/wizard a black guy now because they want to be "subversive" and "inclusive" and frankly it doesn't feel natural

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's unnatural about it?
      there are african tribes today who still wear wizard robes and wizard hats.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's trying to fit in with le ebin racist Gankerners, give him some time and he will tie in trannies into this somehow

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can't wait for the summer to end

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he's trying to fit in with le ebin racist Gankerners
          He's right, though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because fantasy game mages are about scholarly applications of magic and groidcerers are about putting chicken bones under people’s beds.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd love it if more games/shows started adding african armor and magic and crazy mythology.
        But the modern pozzed devs only care about modern american morons who have no culture outside of twerking, speaking in a moronish way and getting chocked to death by white trash cops. Not even the cool american morons from the 1800s with Bayou voodoo and banjos, no.
        Pic rel are some kino as fuck african dancer outfits from Burkina Faso (I think). Source: MASK photography book by Chris Rainier.
        You will never see this in games, but you will 100% see an american moron in a wizard robe because that's all those retarded white guilt gays can think about: morons doing huwhite things.
        And the funniest thing is that if you try to put actual black/african culture in your game, these fucking pozzed subhumans start screeching about cultural appropriation and racism.
        TL;DR let's throw a nuke inside of Yellowstone and hope for a nuclear winter holocaust.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Another one. I love Burkina Faso
          >All these masks and outfits and millenary culture... nah let's put a moron in Merlin robes and call it a day

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here's an actual shaman outfit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Another one. I love Burkina Faso
              >All these masks and outfits and millenary culture... nah let's put a moron in Merlin robes and call it a day

              I'd love it if more games/shows started adding african armor and magic and crazy mythology.
              But the modern pozzed devs only care about modern american morons who have no culture outside of twerking, speaking in a moronish way and getting chocked to death by white trash cops. Not even the cool american morons from the 1800s with Bayou voodoo and banjos, no.
              Pic rel are some kino as fuck african dancer outfits from Burkina Faso (I think). Source: MASK photography book by Chris Rainier.
              You will never see this in games, but you will 100% see an american moron in a wizard robe because that's all those retarded white guilt gays can think about: morons doing huwhite things.
              And the funniest thing is that if you try to put actual black/african culture in your game, these fucking pozzed subhumans start screeching about cultural appropriation and racism.
              TL;DR let's throw a nuke inside of Yellowstone and hope for a nuclear winter holocaust.

              >They took this away from you
              These are the coolest fucking shit I have ever seen. Holy fuck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Another one for you
                They don't put these in movies and games. Why?
                Because destruction of culture for the sake of creating a melting pot of brown mystery meat serfdom doesn't only apply to whites (europeans), but to everyone else too. When the americans put a moron in a wizard suit they are both removing that merlin-styled wizard imagery from its conventionally european setting and also voluntarily ignoring the existence of black/african culture.
                Those pozzed vidya/movie studios are far more racist than you can ever hope to be, because to them blacks are nothing more than a tool to muddle european culture. Again, this is proved by the fact that putting these designs in a game would make countless twitter subhumand start screeching about racism and cultural appropration or whatever.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Another one. I love Burkina Faso
          >All these masks and outfits and millenary culture... nah let's put a moron in Merlin robes and call it a day

          Here's an actual shaman outfit

          kino

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's why africans call american morons akata, people who have lost their way and culture that their no different from an animal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >concept artists/designers always make the nerd/wizard a black guy now because they want to be "subversive" and "inclusive" and frankly it doesn't feel natural
      Shut the fuck up zoomer retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What is voodoo

      Aww hell naw someone knock the goofy outta this cracker for me

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's never voodoo themed. That's why it's lame.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly we need ripped wizards to make a comeback, I'm sick of the frail nerd stereotype. I'm sure Gandalf was shredded in his youth

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gandalf was never young

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tolkien was born during the last generation of wise old men that basically worked to death before retirement was a thing so they all died in shape. Nowdays the wise and strong old man stereotype is less of a thing and dying off more everyday, retirement is a thing now so a lot of old people fall into bad habits and can't get back into shape because they're too old, also a lot more selfish and more hatred towards the younger generation and being less willing to pass on useful knowledge

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reminds me of the guy that made a solid argument for Gandalf being a Fighter with skills in Magic Item Use.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It makes no sense for a person who works hard to learn spells to not also hone their body. If you're gonna have powerful arcane energies coursing through your body wouldn't you want to be fit as fuck too?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This annoys me too, only because they make them look like Merlin instead of some cool looking voodoo witch doctor from Africa. Putting a black dude in a western garb doesnt look cool, it's like a white dude wearing samurai armor, or a russian dude dressing in Zulu gear. It's stupid.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If they made them a Voodoo Doctor or some kind of WE WUZ KANGZ priest, I'd be okay with it. But instead they just make them "le european robed man"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've only seen this for Paladins. Every fucking pally ends up being a moron and I don't know why.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would be cool if they made them voodoo necromancers or some other edgy faction but instead they try to stuff them into the stereotype for wizards which fits for dorky characters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he plays games with black characters on it
      jesus man. That should be an instant ignore/dislike and move on moment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >could make him look like a witch doctor or dial into the more tribal aspects with plumes of coloured feathers, clay masks, beads under the skin, warpaint and animal skins
      There is sticking to enforcing a current day protocol and then there is being a lazy cunt. They are being the former if its that hard to scrounge around for inspiration open up some history books then.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You do that and you'll be ripped a new butthole for propagating racial stereotypes. "Oh he's a black man casting magic so he HAS to be a witchdoctor"? and all that jazz.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have even a small handful of examples to back this up, or are you just a skittish little racist?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Truth but Americans have been doing this for a while now, it's not a recent thing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and the woman is always ugly and dressed like a guy.
      Male characters honestly are way more sexulized then women in modern media.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the fucking black mage, retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalBlack

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dyel: the thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >meteor shower to level an empire
      >t. dyel manlet only able to cast an aoe of slows

      What the fuck, I didn't know my ancestors did this.
      Man, I'm so weak I project my DYEL to my ancestors

      I honestly believe people who choose warrior are DYELs who consider it a power fantasy and have an inferiority comp-

      There it is

      >dyel
      what is this new zoomer word, someone explain
      is it the new chud or whatever?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dyel
        >new
        The only new thing here is you, newfag. Lurk more.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol pathetic. definite dyel fingers typing this

          so it is the new chud?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DYEL stands for Do You Even Lift

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I've never seen it as an acronym before

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol pathetic. definite dyel fingers typing this

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mad.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hitting things with a big stick ensured your species survival and place in the top of the food chain for hundreds of thousands of years. If it wasint for the unga with the big stick bunga from the tribe over yonder would have stolen your berry's and nuts and would have taken your mother's sisters and daughters. You owe alot to the big stick and the idiots that used them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      perhaps your right...i might conjure a couple thousand mindless meatheads to test your theory and then spawn some demons to kill them when i get bored

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And it would only take 1 meathead to kill you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Once magic gets involved then Mr. Big Stick gets to be unnaturally strong to the point where he's able to completely demolish those demons with ease

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean Mr. Big Stick gets to demolish the demons with ease because he's using a magically enchanted weapon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, because he IS the weapon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, the demons were made using magic so they're considered magic weapons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hitting things with a big stick ensured your species survival and place in the top of the food chain for hundreds of thousands of years
      Actually, it was stabbing things with a pointy stick. Wearing down prey and stabbing them with primitive spears is how humans survived to be where we are today.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hitting stabbing farting and sharting. You are more correct though I concede.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It amazes me that humanity's power is basically kiting.
        We can't fight, wrestle, or even out lift other animals. Our specialty comes in long distance running, stabbing and running away.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >We can't fight, wrestle, or even out lift other animals
          You fucking retard, humans, while hypergracile primates, are still primates and thus massively strong.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What the fuck, I didn't know my ancestors did this.
            Man, I'm so weak I project my DYEL to my ancestors

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            did that guy successfully perform judo on a horse lmao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I thought the same lmfao

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              how do you think Judo originated?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't really think about that at all

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Naked Snake seeing the Boss's horse

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >long distance running
          Persistence hunting isn't doesn't appear to be particularly combat effective, it drains too much energy, and is limited in its applications target selection wise.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're wrong in multiple regards, you probably shouldn't get your facts from reddit.
          First off we're NOT good at long distance running. We're good at dispersing heat, which means we can go on for much longer in hot temperatures than other animals (very useful for stalking prey in the safari)
          Second, we have several physical advantages. We have incredibly maneuverable and dexterous digits, we're adept at climbing, and we're by far the best animals at throwing things.
          Oh, and we just so happen to be, by a wide margin, the most intelligent animals on earth.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You’re an idiot seeing as you just proved his point while pretending to argue against his point. If you need explanations you are triple retarded

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What? I'm the guy who made the first argument, but how did he proved my point?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We really did fuck the meta up

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Unsurprisingly overlooks craftsmanship and intelligence advantage.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unlocking the ranged skill tree was the real breakthrough.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's hilarious just how broken throwing is

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What are they going to do? Throw back?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, right, your arms can't even fully rotate because you ain't human. Sucks to be you, dumb animals.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >2000 + 22
              >slings still haven't become mandatory in vidya
              Why throw when you can whip that shit around fast enough to turn into a bullet.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're retarded, primitive humans were bigger than us in every department and could probably lift a grown boar over their head if they got angry. Have you seen those hunter-gatherer skulls and jaws about 1.5x bigger than ours at the very least? That other anon posted a webm of mongols overpowering those horses, and they are a weakened version of hunter gatherers (though still way better than the average agriculture-weakened human). Imagine what a primitive man who grew up on pure unadulterated boar meat and constant physical activity could do.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It would be fucked by a saber tiger in that times the animal were more savages and stronger too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no anon
        it was throwing sticks and rocks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Throwing sticks is just stabbing it from a distance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This even in the video game concept who is it that keeps the enemies at bay so the Rouge can open that door or the Wizard can cast his spell; the Warrior

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm stupid. I'm clumsy. I'm strong. Simple as.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    : I become invisible to the eye, i sneak behind unsuspecting victims and can just as easily expertly extract their wealth as I can end their lives, I set intricate traps and use various devices and poisons to gain an advantage
    You're acting like this is a good thing. Oh man, the thief deals with a trap wizards can dearm and fighters can tank. Oh, he can critical strike once, while fighters one shot everyone.
    Fighter > Mage > Thief. Sure you can exploit the game/become god as a mage, but with fighter you are pretty much guarantee to not deal with game balance fuckery

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You're acting like this is a good thing. Oh man, the thief deals with a trap wizards can dea-ACK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trap wizards
      That's disgusting

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Magic and sneaking aren't satisfying. Nothing feels as intimate and personal as changing the world around you with muscle and blood, grit and strength, a heavy sword and a well placed strike.
    Plus, I like the idea of being a challenger. An underdog, from bumfuck, ready to punch above the belt. You can never sell someone able to bend reality to their will as an underdog. Thieves get a pass, but most of their scrappy underdog power comes in the form of cunning, which is by and large not exclusive to rogues. Fighters walk up to trolls and ogres, coating their weapons in flame with oil and and themselves in iron. The others hide behind him and his steel balls. On the battlefield after, nothing remains but guts and glory.

    Plus mechanically it's usually more engaging.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Magic and sneaking aren't satisfying.
      >Stopping time and erasing whole rooms with a movement of your fingertips isn't satisfying.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nothing feels as intimate and personal
      lmao
      warriors confirmed homosexual. 'fighting and fuckin, it's all the same' eh?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mage: go into inventory every few minutes for potions or to change spells, magic runs out and you have to run away, magic replaces half the gimmicks in the game ensuring no fun
    >Thief: spends half the game crawling around slowly avoiding all enemies and gameplay, powers never work on bosses, ends up with the most money to spend but cant because low weight limit
    >Fighter: always in on the action, can tank hits for more epic battles, wide choice of weapons and armour, can rush through dungeons if they get dull

    Why would anyone ever want to pick anything but fighter?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying fighters wouldn't be screaming for healers to molest them so they don't die from getting smacked in the face

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mages and thieves don't scream when they get smacked in the face, at that point they're smears on the ground. Just ask the next dragoon you find, he'll tell you he's perfectly fine as he closely inspects the floor tiles. The next black mage will be standing in the way of certain death because he's still casting and too stubborn to move. If there's something that hurts everyone in a room, it's the guy in full armor and a shield that's still standing wishing everyone else were a little more competent.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If there's something that hurts everyone in a room, it's the guy in full armor and a shield that's still standing wishing everyone else were a little more competent.
          You mean the guy in enchanted armor and an enchanted shield.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No I am talking about the guy with the shield that the dragon's fire went around while everyone else "dodged" because their "speed is superior" or something and became seared longpig. Alternatively, it is the barbarian who has mastered the state of his body to such a degree as to tell the world that he is not on fire as he returns the blow with an axe screaming like a madman.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >shield
              >dragon's fire went around it
              So.. magic. Got it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Steel isn't flammable

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It'd still slam onto a shield and not just go around it unless ensorcelled.
                There's nothing wrong with admitting how weak fighters are. Your plain jane sword and armor and shield are no match for things like demifiends and ghosts and other such monstrosities, so all that talk about the strength of your backs and the sweat of your brow doesn't really hold a candle to wearing enchanted equipment.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in most rpgs fighters deal the most damage simply because they can attack 5+ times a round and also crit while wizard can cast at most 2. also wizards can't crit except for the divinity series but fighters there are also spellcasters so it's irrelevant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Irrelevent in a lot of games.
                Hell in D&D a clever player with a late game Wizard is basically unstoppable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                any high level party in d&d is unstoppable
                in infinity engine games, pathinder games, and aurora games it certainly is not irrelevant

                In most rpgs fighters deal little or mediocre damage unless they're using gear enchanted with elements the enemy is weak to. In some instances (like ragnarok online) no one can do any physical damage to ghosts at all and have to use holy enchanted gear or silver arrows/bullets.
                Again, no shame in admitting you have to resort to magicked equipment to deal optimal damage, without which you're just a mediocre waste of space.

                >ragnarok online
                fuck you you mmo chud.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >has no argument against fighters resorting to enchanted gear to stay relevant
                >resorts to strawman
                I accept your concession.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                shouldn't you be playing your mmo chud? you know when you're posting here your opponents grind and become stronger!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >more strawmans
                Little keyboard warrior, you're gonna need a +20 unholy element shitpost keyboard if you hope to deal any kind of damage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hell in D&D a clever player with a late game
                Lore wise would a mithril adamantine alloy armor be better than pure versions of the metals?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In most rpgs fighters deal little or mediocre damage unless they're using gear enchanted with elements the enemy is weak to. In some instances (like ragnarok online) no one can do any physical damage to ghosts at all and have to use holy enchanted gear or silver arrows/bullets.
                Again, no shame in admitting you have to resort to magicked equipment to deal optimal damage, without which you're just a mediocre waste of space.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Learn how heat transfers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heat doesn't instantly transfer through metal, it takes time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's called "metal"
                It's made from a simple industrial process
                Unless you call rubbing sticks together magic, then in that case, the fighter casts hour long ritual spells with your mother five days of the week to maintain his endurance

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >His weapons didn't become magic from the pure legendary feats he did.
                >He can't cut a mountain in half simply because people believe he can
                weak

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No because the warrior becomes stronger the less HP he has.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine the level of bitch you'd have to be to dabble into the dark arts in order to learn arcane mysteries and unlock magical abilities and despite that you're just barely on par with some random gigachad from bumfuck nowhere who goes around fucking shit up with martial skill.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fat retard with a club is 'on par' with a demigod who can summon a meteor shower to level an empire in an afternoon

      f*ghter delusions are absolutely fascinating

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >meteor shower to level an empire
        >t. dyel manlet only able to cast an aoe of slows

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >goofy nerd that can clean his underwear after he soils it is "on par" with a fucking demigod who can butcher an alligator with a punch, send a man to the moon with his fist, and use any spruce tree as a makeshift trebuchet with only a single can of spinach
        wizards of the cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine the level of bitch you'd have to be to brag about your martial skill while using an enchanted broadsword +10 and magic armor.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice comeback. Any more, or do you need to rest for a few hours before you can make another one?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fuck you

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fighter takes damage, says no to being hurt
    >fighter hits ground with big sword, fissures form
    >fighter faces thief and mage and ignores their superpowers as he walks up to them and punches them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fighters are "that kid" who would say they have an everything proof shield during playground games.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because thief is nimble but squishy and the mage is a back line bitch that take a long as time to cast the most powerful spells, the fighter is a skilled swordsman that works as the tank for the team without a fighter the other 2 are screwed.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    read tome of battles for your animu teleports behind you shit, ask your dm to play it and fuck off back to /tg/

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighter: I am a commanding presence on the battlefield. I have mastered both the art of warfare and the temple of my own body, pushing it to the absolute pinnacle of human performance. The bards tell tales of mages and theives, but it is my praises they sing. I am the wall that protects my home from invaders and the sword that drives them back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am a comm -ACK!
      *reloads crossbow* heh.....

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not real life so he's still alive

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying the fighter didn't bring his own platoon of crossbowmen because he has the CHA to lead a warband
        >not just a platoon of crossbowmen, but also an attachment of cavalry coming from left field
        the power to put swadians and rhodoks side by side is not one of a wizard or a thief

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fighter
          >CHA

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >CHA
            That's a Bard, Sorcerer, or Warlock anon. aka the three big chad casters.
            Maybe a Paladin if you build it right.

            Fighters gain a total of 16 attribute points from ASIs. Assuming we're going for a fully armored (therefore Dexless) fighter and standard array for Human, not Vuman, and stats cap at 20, we can go
            >15+1+4=20 Str
            >8+1+0=9 Dex
            >14+1+5=20 Con
            >10+1+0=11 Int
            >12+1+3=16 Wis
            >13+1+6=20 Cha
            For a near ideal commander fighter of full physical capacity. This is the hero that convinces the king he can lead the army to defeat the fell wizard, and has the Wisdom to lead with cunning and the insight to choose reliable lieutenants and engineers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Using up all your feats for a +4 to CHA checks
              anon...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The right friends are more powerful than any feat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's fucking stupid. Just roll a paladin.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOOOO YOU MUST GAIN DAMAGE FROM YOUR STAT INVESTMENTS!
                >NONCOMBAT ADVANTAGES AREN'T REAL, THEY CAN'T HURT THE BIG BAD EVIL GUY!
                >YOU ARE GRUG MCHITTHING, YOU CAN'T BE ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT CLASS!
                >YOU HAVE TO BE THIS OTHER CLASS THAT JUST LETS THE SOCIAL STAT DO DAMAGE! YOU CAN'T USE CHA LIKE THAT YOU AREN'T A BARD-
                blow it out your ass

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >CHA to damage
                CHA is will saves and team buff spells for paladins you schizo, besides fitting the actual class purity. All a CHA fighter does is be a goddamn con artist who promises a victory as the destiny of his being, but doesn't even have GOD on his side to deliver his forces to glory.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thats very cool baby but at 20 i can cast wish and a bunch of other reality-warping spells and i didn't even have to gimp my stats or feats to do it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >playing 5e

              Y I K E S

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >CHA
          That's a Bard, Sorcerer, or Warlock anon. aka the three big chad casters.
          Maybe a Paladin if you build it right.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you hit them and they get back up
    >I hit them and they stay down

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you imply fighter only hits things with big sticks? Fighters are the only ones that actually existed in real life. Magic isn't real, and thieves like they appear in fantasy as dagger wielding rogues that lurk in the shadows didn't really exist either. So just look at history to see everything that fighters and soldiers can do. Their domain is everything combat related after all and history has a LOT of different types of combat

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So just look at history to see everything that fighters and soldiers can do
      So die in droves to archers and other such ranged classes?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Archers ARE fighters. Like I said, fighters are everything to do with combat and weapons

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah. Archers are archers. Otherwise thieves would be fighters because they deal with weapons too. Hell, in games like Dragon's Dogma the ranger stems from the strider.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No thieves primarily deal with stealth and subterfuge and use specific weapons as tools to help them but aren't primarily concerned with combat. Fighters deal specifically with warfare and combat and use all kinds of weapons

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Except archers are a primarily dex class, something it shares with thieves and not fighters.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Traditionally in D&D, which is where we get most of our fantasy character archetypes from, fighter was always one of the most popular choices for archers and bow users. Plus if you want to look at reality, warbows are more like STR weapons than DEX weapons and you need to be very strong to use one. Also DEX is one of the most important stats for fighters alongside strength regardless

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am referring to DnD. Fighter is strength as your highest stat roll followed by dex and con. Archers require dex as the highest stat, with wis and con as the second highest ones.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Scouts and skirmishers, rikki recons are the second biggest thieves you will ever find.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        literally THE best ranged class in DnD at the moment is a fucking Vuman fighter battlemaster with archery fighting style, who picks XBE or Gunner at levle 1 and spends the entire game shooting things with handcrossbows or a heavy crossbow or a musket.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Our real world equivalent to magic is engineered tools, like guns and bows, those things that killed melee combat in warfare
      What rogues in real life do is espionage, sabotage, and assassination, things that in the presence of long range, high damage weapons is very useful
      Fighters nowadays usually just guard things and assault things while dying in high numbers

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long as the thief can beat the fighter in a duel or otherwise frontal fight then there isn't

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thief has to be the gayest and the most situational class in the classic DnD trinity. It is literally a skinny edgy fighter whose main gimmick of being a stealth bitch only works if he can turn outright invisible. Otherwise he is just an edgy twink in a hot topic hoodie.
    >I set traps
    Traps are also gay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      False.
      In D&D terms thieves are skill monkies. You don't think you need one until your DM asks you to roll for perception half a dozen times and the thief is the only one passing the DCs and he just spared your party from eating 3 fireball traps, a pit fall, and a trap of the DM's own devising that would have sprayed the party with owlbear musk and then released a horny owlbear into the room.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This anon gets it. Which means that most CRPGs they're useless or really situational. Their main role is because devs said they needed a thief here

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not stealing everything that's not bolted down, prying everything that is, and stealing the clothes off the back of someone while you're talking to them
          Come on dude. How are you going to have 60 stacks of the super special healing potion that you were saving for the final boss only to not use them if you don't hoard shit?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is so useless. I have never seen the point of stealing unless you're just exploiting in the game. Not only that games keep the balance against stealing so high it's not worth it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I have never seen the point of stealing unless you're just exploiting in the game
              What's not to get? It imparts alternative roads for your adventure to take.
              >dude wants to impart treasure on you but only if you do a ridiculous and lengthy series of quests
              >just pick the key from his pockets and use it on the treasure chest, sparing you a lot of hoop jumping
              >see fancy equipment in shop that you can't afford
              >steal it while the shopkeep isn't looking
              >enemy looks like fighting him is going to be a lengthy restorative consuming fight
              >reverse pickpocket an explosive into their inventory and rack up all the exp with none of the time wasted

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thief exists solely for the fantasy of a fit-assed goth girl to be detected by a fighter and then physically and sexually conquered by said fighter because STR>everything else.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny seeing shit like this and immediately know what a fucking rude, autismo, sperg OP was as a kid and still is.
    >p-people made fun of me because I was smart and just liked nerdy things
    >so now I'm gonna play a magician who beats people with muscles up, because they're dumb brutes, and now the nice guy gets the girl for once

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I pick healer instead

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wizard beats fighter. Overwhelming magic overcomes strength.
    Fighter beats thief. A big powerful warrior mogs the shit out of a tiny dex fag.
    Thief beats wizard. A s stealthy guy will put a dagger in the back of a wizard before the wizard even realizes he's dead.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mages use STR as main stat
    what were they thinking?

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's unironically a special snowflake self insert mentality for these kind of people. They want to have their cake and eat it too, they want to be a normal completely mundane average guy with a sword who is simultaneously capable of going toe to toe with dragons and demon lords and giants, and they want to be able to win without using any superhuman feats of strength or "anime shit" when doing so.
    It's literally the "I'm just an average japanese high school student" equivalent of tabletop gaming. BY DEFINITION being able to stand against a dragon or demon lord or whatever means your character is ridiculously exceptional and superhuman, you can't jerk off the "mundane" fantasy when you're regularly dunking on immortals. It's unironically more of a self insert power fantasy to want to be the guy who defeats a dragon with zero magical powers, zero divine blessings, zero anything other than "me sword gud" and still somehow survive direct hits from breath weapons and six claw, bite, wing, and tail attacks than it is to play something like a druid who turns into a fucking wooly mammoth before stomping on the dragon's face. If you can accomplish what the other people need magic to do without magic, you're still fucking superman by comparison.

    If any regular retard with a crossbow could kill dragons without being special in some way like these mudcore gays fantasize about, then the world and gamewouldn't need heroes and adventurers to begin with and LE LOCAL LORD with his men in full harness would just go kill all the dragons themselves.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mages in video games: Fuck huge AoE abilities, massive nukes, support abilities for the entire party.
    >Fighters in video games: Beefy as fuck boys, can tank anything while dishing out consistent damage. Protects the entire party from the bad guys.
    >Thiefs in video games: uhhh uhh they can use items umm and sometimes they can pickpocket (things from a loot table that have no impact on the fight in question) and they're pretty fast I guess?

    How do we fix thieves?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Throw in into the garbage can and give blackguards and thugs.
      >will steal
      >will kill
      >will poison
      >sometimes from mele, sometimes from range

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do what FO3, and FO:NV did and add traps, shortcuts only accessible through platforming puzzles or locked doors, and flee mechanics so that they have a reason to make use of their greater speed for when the dumb goblin turns coward and runs to get help from any friend he comes across.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no reverse pickpocketing
        That was the best part about Bethesda stealth

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, the ol' pocket bomb. How could I forget?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like how Dragons Dogma handles classes, the strider is effectively the thief class, and they just gave it a bunch of tools and manoeuvres as it combat abilities.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How do we fix thieves?
      Let them be as super human as warriors. The problem games have is when they try to force martial classes to follow reality but let mages do whatever.

      Anyone else wish there was a place that worked as the etymology of fantasy concepts?
      Like how the
      Heroic Knight > Paladin > Fallen Knight >Blackguard/Antipaladin > Death Knight
      concept came about.
      Really what is comes down to is that Paladins are holy warriors empowered by their faith and dark/death knights are knight-sorcerers that make a pact with a demon or become a lich/undead.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fighter: I HOLD BIG STICK I HIT WITH BIG STICK HUIRRRR
    Literally me

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thief's trash.
    >my backstab can do a lot of damage!
    >as long as there's a fighter taking hits for me

    Mage's OP
    >stealth and melee are two of my many spells

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But that's not true.
      Sometimes thieves open an encounter with a backstab, like Ezio.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only game with threatening thieves was Baldur's Gate 2 where they'll 1shot Aerie from concealment, initiating combat with an ambush where you're already down your main healer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ezio doesn't count, he's more like Jason Bourne in that he's also trained in combat and wearing half decent armor for most of the game canonically and by the end of the game basically wearing a modern body armour equilivant that was made from precursor visions that cant break and doesn't dull, also he canonically is genetically superior to normal humans because of isu dna and slightly stronger than your average healthy man

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          None of the shit you said changes the fact that combat in the Ezio games start out one of three ways : it's a section where you fight right from the getgo, it's a restricted section and you got caught, and lastly, the most common one to happen, you assassinated an enemy in plain view of the other enemies.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because in most games, mages are weak early game, thieves are weak late game.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not playing a muscle wizard
    >not enjoying the path of beating people with a sword

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So I'm doing a tabletop game and these are my mage classes
    mage
    >basically does basic magic attack with no elemental affinity
    >kind of like telekinetic with repulse, pull, float, etc.
    >pretty much controls enemy placement
    black mage
    >elemental magic, fire, ice, lightning, etc.
    >pretty much AoE damage and elemental proc
    Green mage
    >life magic
    >poison, heal, buffs and debuffs, etc.
    Blue Mage
    >counter attacks and use enemy skills
    >burst damage against single targets
    Time Mage
    >speeds up allies, slow down enemies, etc
    Dark mage
    >arcane magic and necromancy
    White mage
    >holy magic and regen spell

    IS this too much? Player feedback say I should organize them into school of magic and do cross class spell learning instead of classes.Feedback?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It depends on the type of system you want to do. Are the classes on their own compelling enough mechanically to be interesting on their own? How does cross classing work in your system?
      Obviously people are going to suggest schools because that's what DnD does. If it makes sense when considering your answers to the above questions, go for it, but ultimately just do what you think will be most fun in the type of game you want your system to facilitate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >school of magic and do cross class spell learning instead of classes
      Is this a troop game, where you have multiple units, or is this an RPG where you have one unit? If it's the former keep class system: later divide up to schools

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    smashin skulls with a big stick is cool, gay

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone ever want to pick fighter in any game when there are other choices?
    I like being able to survive almost anything thrown at me and squash the heads of the gays who throw shit at me
    >Physical attacks
    HP, DEF and Armor
    >Magic
    Sure I have lower Mdef but I got HP
    >Status effects
    HP fuck you

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    'cause beating the shite out of your enemies is fun compared to pussyfooting around or wearing a dress, innit

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because its fun and I don't actually die when I get killed in a video game so I can just press retry if I lose.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >moron wizard

    yeah I'll pick fighter thank you

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Straight
    >White
    >Male
    >Fighter
    oh yea, it's time to game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, the Reddit combination.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Paladin or cleric but yes.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone ever want to pick fighter in any game when there are other choices?
    because fiona a cute in vindictus and her perfect block felt satisfying to land

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lethor is better.
      >t. former fiona main

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      soul vs soulless

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Obnoxious gaudy building that pushed an arms race to have the gaudiest and most obnoxious building possible
        vs
        >Building designed not to piss residents off

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, you are a soulless corporate mimic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t. graduate in Bauhaus/Helvetica brutalist studies

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >He doesn't play Commander

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fireballs your "army"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh no, whatever will that shield wall do to stop it
        > oh look, nothing happened.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          your shields either catch on fire or pan-sear you on the other side, pick your poison pal

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no they don't. they straight up cancel 3 attacks to the front and flank the shield is on. congratulations the fireball did nothing.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this is your playground homebrew shit isn't it
              roll a dex saving throw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >captain class
      >is like a hunter class, but instead of an animal as a companion, they get a man, and instead of a focus on ranged combat and medium armour, they focus on melee and heavy armour
      LotRO did something I wish other RPGs did.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        gay marriage class

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the fighter is the master of conditioning and martial techniques, what is there not to understand? He will beat anyone in a fight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He will beat anyone in a fight
      except a ghost
      or a shade
      or some other such monster that operates on a different dimensional plane

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Silver swords/relics?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >has to rely on magic anyway

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Silver
            >Magic

            Ok Dracula

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >relics
            So fighters need magic items to compete? Interesting...

            Silver isn't magic and fighters have always used whatever tools they have on hand.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh you mean magically enchanted shit?
          If you're gonna go through the trouble of getting a fighter and finding magic shit for him to use to deal with something why not cut out the middleman and just hire a wizard?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >relics
          So fighters need magic items to compete? Interesting...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A Vorpal Sword isn't magic, just really fucking sharp. Perfect for lopping gay mage heads off.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh no no no no

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Being sharp is a magical effect

                Wonder what retard wrote that description.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's made impossibly sharp through...
                wait for it....
                magical enchantment!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Monomolecular blades can only be magic and nothing else

                Ok retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we're discussing fantasy here sir

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in a medieval setting? Yes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The ability to ignore slashing damage resistance is obviously the magical component of the weapon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Being really fucking sharp is not a magical property

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where's the definition of "vorpal" that says "really fucking sharp"?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vorpal is a made up word from an old poem dude, you're asking me for hard evidence on something that hasn't ever been established. Vorpal meaning "really fucking sharp" is a contextual assumption im making on the grounds that it can lop off heads effortlessly and ignores slashing defenses because its so fucking sharp.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so you can't say for sure that "Being really fucking sharp is not a magical property" because you have no idea if it was magically made or not...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, the vorpal sword in Lewis Caroll's poem required multiple strikes to sever the Jabberwocky's head.

                >One, two! One, two! And through and through
                >The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
                >He left it dead, and with its head
                >He went galumphing back.

                If it's "really fucking sharp" then it should have done so in one blow, no?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bringing up Lewis Caroll is silly because
                a) we're talking about games, where "vorpal blades" are obviously different things which are likely magically made
                b) the whole vorpal shit doesn't really invalidate the "relics" part as a whole anyway

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a) we're talking about games, where "vorpal blades" are obviously different things which are likely magically made
                Alice of the American McGee games also takes multiple strikes with her vorpal blade depending on the enemy. Vorpal blades in DnD also aren't all ohko weapons, requiring dicerolls to dictate how many hits it takes to fell a creature.
                >b) the whole vorpal shit doesn't really invalidate the "relics" part as a whole anyway
                It's literally a magic item though, which brings us back to the question in

                Oh you mean magically enchanted shit?
                If you're gonna go through the trouble of getting a fighter and finding magic shit for him to use to deal with something why not cut out the middleman and just hire a wizard?

                of why not just hire a wizard to get it done.

                Oh my bad, I guess slicing a demonic beast's head off in 2 strokes isn't sharp enough for you. I bet you order sparkling water too, cunt.

                It's clearly 4 strokes though, two sets of One and two sets of Two.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, yes, obviously it is, but even if it weren't that's a terrible argument against "relics are magic" because one weapon being a nonmagical relic does not mean all relics are nonmagical

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wizards are also pussies that die in like 1 hit. Their players are also masters of abusing every conceivable mechanic in order to have no wekness and erase any and all challenge. Then they get defensive when others want to play Fighters and not be giant gays.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Their players are also masters of abusing every conceivable mechanic in order to have no wekness and erase any and all challenge
                How is this a bad thing? That's like bitching that wizards are pirates and fighters buy games legit. If the system didn't want wizards to be nigh omnipotent characters then it should have been designed as such.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Then they get defensive when other players want to play Fighters and not be GIANT gayS

                Way to prove my point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pirates are fags
                Come on bruh.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maplestory had the best pirate class

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gay wizards shouldn't want to be overpowered
                >why not?
                >OMFG GOD LOOK HOW D-DEFENSIVE YOU'RE BEING! I AM SO RIGHT!!
                Jesus, anon. You stink of desperation. Nobody really cares that you play a fighter, chill.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said wizard players are mechanic abusing, semantics rule reading fags that play like giant gays. Never said they shouldn't want to be anything. If a Wizard player doesn't want to be a giant gay, he won't be. Simple.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>Then they get defensive when other players want to play Fighters and not be GIANT gayS
                >they get defensive
                >GIANT gayS
                ... lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gets defensive when called a gay
                >NO IT MEANS YOU'RE DEFENSIVE

                ok

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                keep screaming and namecalling anon, you're looking real manly right now

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not a man, I'm from Israel.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh sorry sir, I didn't realize you were one of God's Chosen people. I take back everything I said, you are automatically correct.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I knew it. Warriorfags are actually gnomish e-bois with a muscle fetish. That explains everything.
                >already magical
                >already sneaky
                >being strong is a fantasy to them

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a tragically dense moron. A melee character's challenge is "how do I use my skills and items to kill this number of things and simultaneously not die?" You look at the skills and power you have available, and you play it out until you win, and that's the challenge. Magic users do the same thing, except their methods of killing things isn't standing next to it and keeping their HP up, it's a different set of challenges and data. It's keeping yourself alive while you do an obscene amount of damage with the right skills. It's the same basic principle as your Hit Things With A Stick, it's just cooler.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What is the sword isn't magic, however the guy cuts with sheer force of will (One Piece)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then you're a super special snowflake character, as all one piss characters are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh my bad, I guess slicing a demonic beast's head off in 2 strokes isn't sharp enough for you. I bet you order sparkling water too, cunt.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Being really fucking sharp" doesn't make you ignore a diamond's ability to withstand being slashed you retard. At the end of the day what materials the object doing the slashing and the object being slashed are made of still come into play, unless magic is involved.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                YOU CAN CUT DIAMONDS YOU STUPID FUCK

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                find a nonmagical way to sharpen a sword enough to do that in a fantasy setting :^)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some ancient elf smith using some really special material with god-level smithing technique could probably do it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >elf (magical race) using special (magical) material

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What a fucking reach

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek you forgot "god-level" just to be 100% pedantic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also, MASTERWORK, used to 'counts as' a +1 weapon despite being nonmagical

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. Using machines that consist of a steel core and.. wait for it...
                fucking diamonds.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "vorpal" is not "really fuckign sharp" it is "magically sharp"

                not to mention a sword has to be a +1 magical item or greater to even have effects like Vorpal on it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its a flanderisation. the ORIGINAL vorpal sword in DnD was the jabberwocky killing vorpal sword. on a 20 it instant killed vs a save vs death.
                and since attacks per round was speed based in DnD with class considerations, a fighter with it was forcing enemies to roll a LOT of instant death saves, far, far more than the fucking wizard with their disintegrate.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >A Vorpal Sword isn't magic
              It's literally listed under magic items.
              https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/5397-vorpal-sword

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he's never cast fist before

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          casting fist is literally a muscle wizard ability, not a fighters.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mages are too easy to handwave. Sorry, I don't think you should be able to cast magic without it taking an equivalent toll on you. You wanna cast 5 fireballs in a row? Same exhaustion as a fighter swinging a greatsword 5 times. You wanna pick a lock magically? You need to know the same level of knowledge as a thief in that field. Fucking tired of mage gays just doing anything and everything with zero downsides. Choke on my fighter cock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly yeah this makes sense. Normie mages casting extremely powerful spells should make you damn near catatonic or visibly age you or take it out of your vitality or life force, and there better be a damn good explanation for the types of people like Sephiroth that can just rain meteors over an entire battlefield with no cool down over and over like it's nothing without it taxing them, either they have an extreme or everflowing amount of vitality or spirit energy available to them or they have God like power, Lord of the Rings did it this way and even the upper tier spells there from Gandalf weren't world rending dimension ripping level shit despite him being a nature god

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mages are too easy to handwave. Sorry, I don't think you should be able to cast magic without it taking an equivalent toll on you. You wanna cast 5 fireballs in a row? Same exhaustion as a fighter swinging a greatsword 5 times. You wanna pick a lock magically? You need to know the same level of knowledge as a thief in that field. Fucking tired of mage gays just doing anything and everything with zero downsides. Choke on my fighter cock.

        >magic must have a ruleset bound in realism
        It's magic. There's no reason for it to be "realistic" at all.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it does need some form of rules though or else the setting will make no sense in why everyone isn't going hard on magic

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it does need some form of rules though
            No it doesn't, tough shit. Cry home to your homebrew DnD campaign while my wizard builds a castle out of sentient clouds.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Cry home to your homebrew DnD campaign while my wizard builds a castle out of sentient clouds.

              in what video game?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The one I made up just now. You're not allowed to play.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >else the setting will make no sense in why everyone isn't going hard on magic
            50% of the time the reason is not everyone can do magic, like Harry Potter where muggles exist. The other half is because it takes years to decades of study and not everyone wants to start their adventuring life at age 60. In neither situation does it ever have to have a physical toll to cast spells.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              even low level spells are stupid useful even if just used as utility

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >spend 15 years to learn open sesame
                >or just pry shit open with a crowbar or ramming into it really really hard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It needs some form of limits so it isn't just an instant win button and has some form of realism to it.
          Also, the laws of physics.
          Even if you don't understand where the energy is coming from, conservation of energy would ideally apply, you can't just pull it out of your ass, you have to be disciplined and understand that you're still converting SOMETHING into SOMETHING else via not fully understood and scientific processes, and if thay thing is life energy or either, it would logically take a toll on you.

          Also every action has an opposite reaction. Even if your pulling that energy from something other than your life force, logically running that energy through you and converting it to something else by the processes of spirit or your mind or whatever should logically probably have some kind of "kick" or negative reaction with your body, unless you have some kind of counterbalance, scaling in relation to how powerful the magic you are using is

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also, the laws of physics.
            Fuck off. It's magic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's a lot of words to say that you don't understand what the word "magic" means.

              In any setting where "magic" actually exists, real life laws of physics automatically no longer apply. Simmer.

              >realism
              >the laws of physics
              >magic
              The whole point of magic is that it's ridiculous stuff that looks at physics and takes a big steaming turd all over its head.
              The problem with your argument about rules and the laws of physics is you're working on that saying "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" while at the same time ignoring that the saying states that it's indistinguishable from magic, not that it is magic. To paraphrase the saying in a way you can understand, "Any masterfully crafted cubic zirconium is indistinguishable from a diamond". They look the same, but they're not.

              Nobody thinks that magic shouldn't have limits. Of course it has to have limits. But your laws of physics argument is hilariously stupid, so we're all pointing and laughing at you.

              This is what I meant when I said "It's easy to handwave" and what I meant when I said that wizard mains are all gays. See how they all go "It's magic lol nothing wrong with being an omnipotent characater with no downsides ever" and get hyper defensive on it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a lot of words to say that you don't understand what the word "magic" means.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In any setting where "magic" actually exists, real life laws of physics automatically no longer apply. Simmer.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >realism
            >the laws of physics
            >magic
            The whole point of magic is that it's ridiculous stuff that looks at physics and takes a big steaming turd all over its head.
            The problem with your argument about rules and the laws of physics is you're working on that saying "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" while at the same time ignoring that the saying states that it's indistinguishable from magic, not that it is magic. To paraphrase the saying in a way you can understand, "Any masterfully crafted cubic zirconium is indistinguishable from a diamond". They look the same, but they're not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody thinks that magic shouldn't have limits. Of course it has to have limits. But your laws of physics argument is hilariously stupid, so we're all pointing and laughing at you.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean it doesn't have to be this way. You can have a setting where humanity always knew magic and it has to be learned again, or only some people can do magic.
              I just think it's been done to death.
              My point can logically apply to settings where magic was learned from another race or humanity discovered it one day, but wasn't necessarily born with it in mind.
              It's just a cool idea.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't get me wrong, magic limited by realistic laws of physics is neat and all, but the way you phrased it in your earlier post was pretty silly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your right, that's why every wizard in the setting should be an omnipotent reality warping demigod with zero restrictions.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's the point of killing a god or money or a job if any old hooser with a book can just go into the local woods and beat up monsters with a staff for two weeks straight and come out immortal and usurp that god's position?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are fucking braindead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sephiroth is dead by the time he's doing that, and is part of the mako lifestream of the planet. He is literally made of magical power, at that point. He is no longer a regularly living being.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hold on let me fix this for you. Remember that none of these characters actually exist, they are just various movesets for a videogame.

    >Mage: I press buttons
    >Thief: I press buttons
    >Fighter: I press buttons

    The correct choice is the button pressing that you find most satisfying.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mage: I die instantly if someone so much as sneezes in my general direction. PLEASE SAVE FIGHTER CHAD!
    >Thief: I die instantly if someone so much as sneezes in my general direction. PLEASE SAVE ME FIGHTER CHAD!
    >Fighter: I AM THE SWORD! I AM THE SHIELD! YOUR PITIFUL ATTACKS MEAN NOTHING TO ME! NOW KNEEL!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good cuck take all the hits while i ritual cast this spell for 10 minutes 🙂

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You go ahead and keep doing that. Meanwhile I already killed the boss and went home. Didn't leave any treasure for you btw.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fighter CHAD taking the hits for his Wizard/Sorcerer/Cleric HAREM.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I was a kid I chose dickass thief every time. Now I choose big stick.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i-if you u-use anything o-other than a-a wood stick you're no-ot a REAL fighter
    >wi-wi-wizard chads win again!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Human uses magic to kill a goblin
      f-fucking beta male c-cuck
      >Human uses a magic stick to kill a goblin
      BASED PLS FUCK ME FIGHTER-CHAD

      I'll loot the bodies once you're all done being weird.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >arguing between being a warrior and being a wizard
    >not being both

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not being both a warrior and being a wizard
      >posts middle-earth equivalent of a fallen angel
      You were so close to not being retarded

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Listen ok, Sauron looks cool and he gets the point across of "both wizard and warrior"
        I could post darth vader instead, since it would serve the same purpose

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jedi are monks at best, but they shouldn't really count. It's fighters vs wizards in gaming, and wizards are usually just too slow to be worth playing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bro Jedi are literally space magic swordmen. The fact that they act like monks does not mean that they play like monks. They use swords and magic, they're exactly what I'm talking about.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They use lightsabers because their connection with the force gives them better reaction times, it's more unlocking a skill thanks to meditation than picking up a sword and practicing.
              That connection is something they're born with, a lot of wizards require years of studying the supernatural while the force is just there.

              It's silly to class them though, fighters as a class tend to be high strength or high dex with no magic, multi-classing just blurs things.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Darth Vader not being a fighter x psionic
          I can do this all day gay

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Force is absolutely not psionics. It is magic. It's not called magic, but it's magic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Psychic maipulation and telekinetic abilities granted through a living gestalt is magic

              Ok retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What living gestalt? The Force itself? By that logic magic is also psionics because it's just the application of will onto the magical (insert name here).
                The Force is based on standard fantasy magic but in space. The fact that it's telekinetic doesn't mean shit.
                Moreover, psionics is just a word sci fi authors invented when they wanted to add magic in their setting without calling it magic so that it stays "sci fi". It's a moronic term from the start.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Psionics aren't magic. If you want to break everything down to its most base trope then do it but I'm not engaging with that retarded approach anymore

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one that started grasping at straws about how "darth vader doesn't count as magic/warrior because he's actually psionic/warrior so it's completely different!!!!" and then tell me that I'm the retard breaking it down?
                Are you mentally ill? Were you lobotomized?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Different anon, the Darth Vader guy wasn't me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You're the one that started grasping at straws about how "darth vader doesn't count as magic/warrior because he's actually psionic/warrior so it's completely different!!!!"
                Hey! That was me! I went to make a coffee, anon. You've been arguing with someone else this entire time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's chi magic like Pathfinder monks but crazier. The Force is understood through meditation and attunement, not study. Jedi could be Druids too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I might be arguing with that anon for fun but my current DnD character is actually a Spellsword lol

      rogue is the most fun because you can sneak around and stab people

      I'm glad you enjoy it fren

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mages in this thread right now.
        Haha stick go brrr.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Armored wizards are in a league of their own. If the spellcaster you're fighting wears cool armor then you, and your party will lose 100% of the time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now we talking.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wizardry in any capacity is homosexual to any warrior worth their salt. even odin was mocked and laughed at for practicing magick before he guzzled cum

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but like, Odin's still the fucking king of Asgrad and all they can do is seethe.
        Plus there's no story of the other Gods mocking Odin afaik

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ring is on the wrong finger

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rogue is the most fun because you can sneak around and stab people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roguechads rise up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mage makes you resist fall damage
      >fighter throws you at the enemy's weak point
      >massive damage to enemy
      teamwork is the best

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *bladesongs in your path*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wrathful Smite

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone ever want to pick fighter in any game when there are other choices?
    Imagine having unworldly power or weaboo powers and you lose because Grug hit harder.
    >It's more likely than you think.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP keeps losing kills to fighter spamming power strike greater cleave
    You'll never know the joys of running through legions of foes, nor the simplicities of just being "that guy" who is one bad day from reclassing as a barbarian

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >99% of the thread is Fighter vs Wizard
    >The few rogue/thief posts that exist get ignored.
    Maybe we're just too stealthy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >brag no one can see you
      >complain no one can see you

      It really do be this way

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rogues are like fighters but with some magic fuckery.
      They are like the child watching from the stairwell as mom and dad are raging over the mom's iThot account.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rogue is alright. They're not gays, they're not weak, and they're interesting.
      In every game, if you want to get to play as many mechanics as possible, you should play Rogue AND Wizard at least. Nightblades in Morrowind are the best class for doing everything, for instance.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Best class: I HOLD BIG STICK that I imbued with the power of elements, reality itself bends to my BIG STICK, the very concept of time is my plaything THAT I USE TO HIT WITH BIG STICK HURRRRR

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But can he sneak

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rogue is alright. They're not gays, they're not weak, and they're interesting.
        In every game, if you want to get to play as many mechanics as possible, you should play Rogue AND Wizard at least. Nightblades in Morrowind are the best class for doing everything, for instance.

        What living gestalt? The Force itself? By that logic magic is also psionics because it's just the application of will onto the magical (insert name here).
        The Force is based on standard fantasy magic but in space. The fact that it's telekinetic doesn't mean shit.
        Moreover, psionics is just a word sci fi authors invented when they wanted to add magic in their setting without calling it magic so that it stays "sci fi". It's a moronic term from the start.

        obviously the best is the sneaky guy with a magically enchanted big stick.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based rogue that uses magical equipment to get rich and doesn't give a fuck about the FighterXWizard drama

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the best fantasy heroes are fighter/thieves, occasionally fighter/mage/thieves.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Counterpoint : it's Fighter Mage duos. Arthur and Merlin, Raistlin and Caramon, etc. etc.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a sneaking suHispanicion most people who argue in this thread about wizards vs warriors have played and enjoyed both numerous times.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, Harry Potter games did wizard right. Classic fantasymake them boring though, when there's story to deal with and mechanics to learn you don't want to spend all your time switching spells on top of it

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Arguing about tabletop classes when video games incorporate them entirely differently
    Even the games that adapt d&d rulesets completely fuck them up.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Magic and Ranger is for gays
    Every single time

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the other classes balancing sucks

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if you hit the mage, he dies
    >if you hit the thief, he dies
    >if you hit the fighter, he laughs and hits back
    ez

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you hit the fighter, he starts crying out for a medic while crying about how little damage he does compared to a thief
      ftfy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The mage is just being a gay hidden 90 ft away

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The earlier scenario says the thief and mage are dead though.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He got better
            tears of denial

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because while you're sucking dick to get your mana back to give some gay frostbite the fighter gets shit done

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ranger
    >rock to mages scissors
    >bodkin tips to destroy armored fighters at a distance
    >keen instincts and perception to locate and dispatch rogues, not to mention traps and guard animals
    I’ll be innawoods

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    High level warriors should become Gilgamesh tier powerhouses capable of lifting entire landmasses

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gilgamesh wasn't really anything to write home about.
      >can't hold on to gifts from Inanna
      >can't beat an ogre without 50 soldiers by his side
      >panics and starts praying to gods to save him from Humbaba
      >is scared of dying

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some form of dex/magic class is always my favorite with summoner/beast master/druid being up their too, but so few games do summoner/beast master/druid in a fun way

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >start out as a plain guy
    >you slowly become monsters from various folklore that are based on your class

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sometimes I like bonking the bad guys with a big stick

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fighter: I HOLD BIG STICK I HIT WITH BIG STICK HUIRRRR
    yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >uses magic armor
      >uses crossbow
      >uses cannon arm
      throwing knives
      he dipped into rogue too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why wouldn't a fighter use a crossbow? Sometimes the guy that needs the pointy stick treatment is a good distance away.
        Neither are the cannon arm or magic armor inherently rogue-y.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why wouldn't a fighter use a crossbow?
          Because if you're not squaring up face to face against your opponent then you didn't beat the game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >said the Sw*dian as he chokes under a mountain of his own dead comrades
            gg butterlord

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >guy who gets anally raped as a child is obsessed with big giant (dark) swords
      pottery

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot to add that he was anally raped by a black dude.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He also got close to get gangbanged by wolves and its his dark animal spirit and mcguffin armor

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it always big guy big stick big hit with the west anyway? Nips and chinks at least have their fighters jump high, use chi/spirit stuff and bullshit techniques.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because they want to be completely ordinary non-superpowered non-magical weapon swingy dudes in a world that regularly gets dragon infestations and whatnot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like mixing my food

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand why it's not someone like Heracles either. You have a gigantic chunk of ancient culture to draw inspiration from even if you dislike the nopon steel folded an infinite amount of times. Ordinary realism is already impossible in a world with magic, even the most basic bitch troopers should be geared up in magic gear from head to toes and "high level ordinary warriors" will be just magic commandos a-la Emiya Kiritsugu.

      May as well actually give fighters their unique niche by allowing them to train to superhuman conditions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's chiefly a DnD thing. DnD started off fairly low key and gritty in the style of old pulp novels, but for some reason magic users were able to run away into full high fantasy over later additions. Western fantasy genre fiction is full of over the top fighting types (just look at capeshit), but it was largely kept out of fantasy due to DnD and various mage supremacy novels. Over the top fighting types are starting to become acceptable though, thanks to anime, vidya and a rediscovery of classical/mythology bullshit powers, in my opinion anyway.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fighter: I HOLD BIG STICK I HIT WITH BIG STICK HUIRRRR
    Yes

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Underworld Ascendant
    Learn just enough magic to make a fire orb, then hold it against anything wood and your problems disappear
    Then throw the rest in stealth because the combat sucks

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone ever want to pick fighter
    For the exact reason you gave in your greentext. BIG STICK GO BONK!!

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I find whatever faith magic/potions/armor/charms that resists sorcery and build my magic resist to the max. Then I charge the mage boy with a two handed sword so I can cut and stab him to my heart's content.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >That "Big stick" can cleave mountains in half and fell entire armies effortlessly

    Warriors may not get the cool abilities of the other classes, but they get access to the best gear

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can cleave mountains in half and fell entire armies effortlessly
      >with their magic big stick of cleaving +15
      Might as well have a wizard cast a spell to do all that shit you mentioned.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You have been posting this response all thread.
        A wizard could not use Blackrazor. He is not proficient. He gains no damage from anything. He can barely swing it. It is in the hands of the warrior that it is used to its full potential, because a "master of the arcane" "capable of calling down meteor showers that level empires" can't even use magic items correctly.

        If magical items and their effects reduce the warrior to a caster, why can't a wizard control this magic better than someone who is incapable of performing magic of their own volition? Why are they unable to use this MAGIC item's effects? It's MAGIC. It's certainly not because it's a WEAPON, can't it? The power within can't only be harnessed by someone with a bigger dick than you, you're a wizard, you spent thirty years not getting any bitches to have the most powerful arcane effects, and you can't even cast its effects on its own. Its power is, forever, beyond you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cast tenser's transformation
          >now you can use any martial magic weapon as if you were a fighter
          phew that was hard

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tensers
            >Some homebrewed bullshit made by a gay wizard that wanted to play fighter instead

            yeah, ok retard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              tenser's is an official sourcebook spell as far back as 2e

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I stand corrected.
                >Some barely official bullshit made by an OLD gay wizard that wanted to play fighter instead

                I'd ban that bullshit. Classes have roles to play, if you're gonna be intruding on everyone elses shit then you can just leave the table. Fuck wizards.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >classes have roles to play
                >while talking about fighters doing wizard shit like "cleaving mountains in two"
                Take your own advice then retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, cleaving mountains in two is retarded. I guess I like my stuff a bit more grounded. Like, my BBEG wouldn't be some eldtritch unknowable all powerful deity. It'd probably be a particularly nasty and cunning dragon or something.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I guess I like my stuff a bit more grounded.
                Me too. Wizard is actually just an alchemists who throws black powder bombs at people.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >concentration
            How fickle your strengths, forsaking your "greater powers" to have a facsimile that is thrown in jeopardy every step you take in a warrior's shoes.

            >classes have roles to play
            >while talking about fighters doing wizard shit like "cleaving mountains in two"
            Take your own advice then retard.

            >using tools to cut things
            >wizard shit
            "Wizard shit" is floating around shooting fireballs, not Judgement Cut or Fell Cleave. You are the one doing shit that doesn't fit your shoes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"Wizard shit" is floating around shooting fireballs, not ability demons (which are literally magical beasts) or ability that doesn't cut mountains in half

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you seriously going to stand on the hill that implies dante is not a fighter but a warlock

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that Dante has a devil trigger and conjures a disc out of nowhere for him to leap off of when he does air hike outright goes against the idea that he's a fighter.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Next you'll say Might Guy flying by kicking air is a magical feat too.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a martial feat, unless he literally gets a purple energy disc under his feet to kick off of like Dante does.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair point. Dante and Vergil are clearly Fighter/Warlock hybrids though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Go choke on a cock then

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dante literally conjuring a fucking demonic sigil rune to jump on a second time isn't magical in nature
                Based bliss in ignorance

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Is a fighter
                >Devil trigger
                >His father Sparda literally had powerful enough magic to separate the demon and human worlds and lock away the tower and Mundus and forged Rebellion, Sparda, and Yamato

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A better question would be if Kratos is a fighter, a warlock, or a mage because he literally can't tap into any magic of his own, all the magic he's given in the games is tools from the Gods themselves

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A better question would be if Kratos is a fighter, a warlock, or a mage because he literally can't tap into any magic of his own
                He doesn't need to tap into magic. All he needs is rage.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Warpriest, he'd be nobody without the divine help of Ares and later the Titans.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's salty that warrior chads do naturally what he had to spend years being a nerd to do.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He wouldn't even truly be a warlock, he's half demon and gets power from that so that makes him a sorcerer too

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dante is an Eldritch Scion. Sorcerer Battlemage chad. Vergil is a Sword Saint Magus.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why feed and deal robe retard when i could have a cool sword that does everything a wizard does without any of the downsides of having to feed and protect some stupid gay with no bitches

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Can cleave mountains in half and fell entire armies effortlessly in one strike
      This is some anime final fantasy fmv shit and proof that anime is a blight on pop culture

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like swords, axes, spears and armor. Armor with capes even.

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Classes in video games suck complete ass.
    >Warrior
    Swing your weapon around like a retard clicking M1 the whole game
    >Wizard
    Shoot your shitty fireball over and over and over again, all you ever get is gay fucking fireball bullshit, never any cool or interesting magic.
    >Thief
    Good luck finding a class-based game with even a halfway decent stealth system. You're either completely broken useless garbage or enemies literally never react to you even if you're jumping ontop of their fucking head.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I limit myself with basic bitch classes when I can play a hybrid? A polearm/spear user that's capable of using magic is the best class for me. Otherwise, it's the Magic Knight archetype.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I HOLD BIG STICK I HIT WITH BIG STICK HUIRRRR
    Yes,

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      until you take an arrow to the knee

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like you've never felt the satisfaction of hitting a home run, or a one-to-the-green on a par 5, or broke a pinata in one swing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fucking this. If you've ever done anything physical achievement like hitting a game-winning bucket, getting a sack/touchdown/interception, scoring a goal in soccer, etc., you understand how great Fighter is

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gun is just plain better.
    >im going to cast the great meteor of-
    Shot
    >you wont see me coming-
    Shot
    >in the name of the king you will drop your wea-
    Shot
    Gun just wins everytime

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gun
      >musketeer
      >using the tiny penis rapist (rapier) sword
      Good job being a gay, gay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Good job being a fa-
        Shot
        Guns are a tool made to make holes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *parries your shot because I'm not a gay*
          It's rude to interrupt people when they're talking.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No need to parry. Considering it's fantasy shit that flintlock's got about a 3% chance of hitting you at a range further than 2 feet, and you're more likely to die from an untreated infection than from being shot by it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >*parries your sho-
            Shot
            Please bullets arent free

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              *shot goes wide and misses the side of a barn*
              Nice try gay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nice try fa-
                Shot
                One of this is going to get ya, stop moving about retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's standing still though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Someone give me that gif of Cloud blocking bullets with his big ass sword in ffviir

                You know what fuck you both, i didn't even want the castle anyway, give it back to lord brapenstein or whatever. Im going home.
                >castle liberated

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *leaves ur aggro range*
                I no longer want to entertain your gayry, goodbye.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Someone give me that gif of Cloud blocking bullets with his big ass sword in ffviir

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      magic guns

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighter tears demon's head off, beats demons to death with head
    >Wizard bitches "you used magic weapon"
    Fighter takes away wizards's reagents, wizard can't cast spells anymore.

    Who really command otherwordly powers?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wizard will somehow claim that Monks punching a hole in Asmodeus' chest is actually a magical feat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, you see warriors and monks were the real mages all along. Bitch ass w*zards can only ask overworldly entities max level martials for a little drip of their power.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If its chakra bullshit the monk system yes

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    : I HOLD BIG STICK
    KE=1/2MV^2
    You want a not too big not too small stick with a weighted end

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If the Rogue allows for stealth OR acrobatics, I'll take it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And nukes arrows dragon dogma rogues are power fantasy in this game except , well every class except warrior without its charged attacks

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    : I HOLD BIG STICK I HIT WITH BIG STICK HUIRRRR
    Yes, I just want to be muscle chad and just put everything to the sword.

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fantasy rules
    >fighters surpass human limits because they do
    >gunshot wounds aren't fatal, firearms are just a funny looking bow and arrow
    >????
    >magic

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sho-
    Stab
    Polearms are the king of weapons

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Speak Loudly and Carry a Big Blade

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I knew you wouldn't get it, only real men do, anon.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I set intricate traps and use various devices and poisons to gain an advantage
    I wish. Normally it is "I could set traps and use devices and poisons, but they are at least 50% worse than just stabbing them with my knife and cost money/resources as well as being single use."

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sun Wu Kong was a martial
    Hercules was a martial
    Gilgamesh was a martial
    Martials are just as powerful as casters if you don't ignore the rules.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Gods/children of gods/eventually becoming a god heroes are martials
      Suuuuure.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One discipline can call planets down to obliterate another plater
        One discipline can hit hard.
        Come on now, isnt it mroe fun to have one call down the planet then the other punch it into splinter?
        It is

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Old moron
    >Ginger w*man
    >Fighter
    yeah anon.. real tough sell here. Why would I want a unga-bunga or femroid?

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everyone except mage players:
    >I want to play as an heroic archetype like characters from myth and legend

    m*ge players:
    >I want to play as god. I demand an order of magnitude more rules than everyone else gets. I need spells that cover all of my supposed weaknesses and make me stronger than everyone else's strengths. the entire ruleset must revolve around dealing with my cheat powers. if I don't get my way I will complain that the gm is stifiling my creativity.

    why are m*ge morons such prima donnas?

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Fighter gets to go full retard superhuman and quake the earth with his fists. Wizards are also pathetic until higher levels and most don't make it that far without a guiding Chad.

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Warriors move at the speed of sound
    >so fast enemies are destroyed by the shockwave of their movements
    >Easily lift pillars and use them as blunt instruments
    >So strong they emerge unharmed after being hit through a wall.

    "magic!" squealed the scrawny mage, unable to comprehend anything not written in his dusty tomes. The warrior might have spared a moment of pity for the dying mage, their kind was an unenviable lot. From birth they were born crippled, despite seeming no different form a normal man, their strength as an adult was lacking even compared to a newborn babe. The warrior could not spare any time for the deformed however, as he was quickly surrounded by joyous and attractive maidens.
    The mage wheezed his last breath, a mere fragment of stone had ricocheted off the warrior's eyelid and pierced his abdomen. Blood poured freely and he rapidly grew weak, unable to even reach his spell components. As his world darkened he heard cheering.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you taking to, schizo?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        instant butthurt mage replies.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If your Martials are doing supernatural shit constantly and pulling Hulk shit then they aren't real Martials anymore. Some master swordsman would be like Lancelot tier, this shit you're making up is some Bloodrager nonsense.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, go to the gym cripple.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Read a book, moron.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is magic though, just purely internal and natural instead of purely external and artificial

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Warriors move at the speed of sound
      >Mage stops time
      >Conjures a banana peel under the warrior's feet
      >Warrior dies a pathetic death by banging his 0 int on the ground really hard
      Sad!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The warrior's reaction time is too great, his senses impeccable. He detects the waft of banana even before his eyes lock on. He leaps through the air, landing with perfect accuracy down to the atomic level on the Mage, obliterating the torso instantly before the shockwave rips the rest of him apart.

        Also lmao, implying the warrior who can walk unharmed in lava would even take damage from road rash.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The mage stops time again before the warrior gets to him. He turns the warrior into a frog and leaves.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a hologram

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because magic in pretty much 100% of games is boring as hell. It's always just "magic missile but lightning, fire, water, wind/etc" where you spam it like an automatic rifle until you run out of magic then either sip your blue juice, wait for it to recharge. BW Sienna is the strongest career in Vt2 and yet its rare to see Sienna because its so fucking boring.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And always the elemental shit goes useless against resistance and inmunities until you find the nuke magic

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because everyone making fantasy are idiots who fail to give me muscle wizards

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Imagine not playing fighter to protect cute twintails magician girl while she chanting, then use your shield as a launch board to launch thiefbro 10 meters in the air to stab badies in the eye

    Ngmi

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mage makes you resist fall damage
      >fighter throws you at the enemy's weak point
      >massive damage to enemy
      teamwork is the best

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because fuck smoke mirrors and visual tricks im the fucking man and i don't need to hide pussy
    IM THE STRONGEST MOTHERFUCKER IN THE WORLD BITCH

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The anon talking about foreign culture is right on the money, New World was supposed to be an MMO that was a departure from generic medieval fantasy shit to give us cool conquistador/colonial/native stuff but they brought in some kinda racism expert and now it's all generic fantasy shit we see all the time and there's literally no story now because white people would get offended.
    WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU MAKE A GAME ABOUT COLONIALISM AND NOT INCLUDE ANY NATIVE SHIT?!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the least of the games problems.

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would anyone ever want to pick fighter in any game when there are other choices?
    Because I'm a man, not a girl...nor a chud

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Being a warrior looks like less bullshit contrivances and less workarounds, just go there, kill the thing, steal the loot, save the princess, that's a good day, no unnatural bending of reality nor backstabbins

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fighter takes your focus and snaps it in half
    What now, magic boy?
    Rev up those cantrips while I rev this hammer up your ass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *takes out my component pouch and misty steps away*

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll fuckin shoot that shit off your hip, too, gay. With my multiple attacks per turn.
        Get fucked. I literally play a mage hunter. I'm gonna put you in a net and keep you as a pet.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mage hunter
          uh oh looks like our paladin's gonna have to discipline you again for disrespecting Mystra

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm gonna put you in a net and keep you as a pet.
          based

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kingdoms of Amalur has a neat, color-coded class system

  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warriors are really the only class a person should play.
    Magic is easy, and for a reason. If rpgs reflected the real world, then the price to use magic would be your soul or the use of your body by demons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If rpgs reflected the real world, then the price to use magic would be your soul or the use of your body by demons.
      Nah. If RPGs reflected the real world, magic would be marking a target with a laser pointer and summoning a jet to drop a daisy cutter on it instead of summoning a lesser/greater demon to do your bidding. There is literally no cost to your soul for doing that.

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fighter: Herculean figure capable of crushing mountains, shrugging off deadly blows and laughing in the face of the greatest monsters
    >thief: I BREAK INTO HOUSES LOL
    >mage: I DO SHADOW PUPPETRY AND MAKE SHINIES
    Why would anyone ever want to not pick fighter in any game when there are other choices?

  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Standard trifecta
    >Fighter
    >Wizard
    >Thief
    Nature trifecta
    >Barbarian
    >Druid
    >Ranger
    Divine trifecta
    >Paladin
    >Cleric
    >Monk
    Anything else?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dark trifecta
      >Shadow Knight
      >Entropic Priest
      >Assassin
      Death trifecta
      >Death Knight
      >Necromancer
      >Grave robber
      Fag trifecta
      >OP
      >Mods
      >Jannies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OP, the gay wielding a giant dildo and getting all the aggro
        >Mods nuking threads and bending the rules to their will to ban whoever they disagree with
        >Jannies silently lurking by day and scrounging for hot pockets at night
        Where do I buy this game?

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's either warrior with a gun, thief with a gun, or wizard with a gun.

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Barbarian > Fighter

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play the Fighter who is also a Mage and a Thief.

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >has army of undead fighters who protect him while he casts his spell
    Has he completely gamed the system bros? What's the weakness?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big Dick Paladin with Turn Undead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Paladin's power comes from a God, but the God can't send their full power through a Paladin and not have him instantly explode. The Paladin simply becomes a vessel of the God's power, and there is a limit. That's why a Paladin is easily able to dispel undead weaker than him, but against something like a Lich or a Vampire all he'd do is marginally inconvenience them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vampires wouldn't be under the necromancer's command and the only lich would potentially be the necromancer itself.
          Besides, that's where the Big Dick part comes in, since you need one to take on the Big Dick Undead mentioned above.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Vampires wouldn't be under the necromancer's command

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      as a starting point he needs an army of DEAD fighters, and usually to get those powers you either need to make some kind of fucked up faustian bargain to a capricious malevolent entity, or make it really fucking important to make sure nobody ever touches your magic-dollar-store-dracula-costume-gold-amulet-with-a-red-garden gnomeel-in-the-center

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His weakness is the fact he's too powerful to win. If the bad guy is so fucking powerful and evil that him winning means the entire world ends or gets sent into an age of darkness or whatever, then he is guaranteed to lose.
      Except Palpatine in the Prequels but that's only because the OTs exist.

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's true. The high tier vampires, like Vampire Lords are egotistical assholes who prefer dwelling in their castles and having their servants, like ghouls or their childe, doing their bidding. They wouldn't be the part of a necromancer's army, but BBEGs of their own.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      meant for

      >Vampires wouldn't be under the necromancer's command

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And he'll outdps everyone in the party in the long run.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bladesinger shits all over every single martial in damage AND utility

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cant use medium or heavy armor
          ngmi

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            doesn't matter because they can get high enough AC to stay in melee from bladesong + dex and other features and still be decent ranged wizards if they don't want to be in melee

  109. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The idea that human strength and resourcefulness is enough to overcome some condescending magic gays was always incredibly fun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the thieves represent peak human resourcefulness better though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Other way around. Fighters are genetic lottery winners 99% of the time that either from having resources from being born in the nobility or being a tall gigachad with god tier genetics. Unless it's another "wizards are born setting," most settings a wizard's power is earned through hardwwork from studying and applying it through training. The thief is the true human class in the end anyway. No special powers and needing to use their brain to survive which is how humanity hunted bigger/stronger things than them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is just the cringe d&d take. if you look at wizards from mythology they usually have some kind of supernatural lineage. merlin was half spirit and gandalf was literally a god larping as a mortal. it wasn't until modern times that wizards became magical nerds who powered up by reading.

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big stick is perfect though you fucking sissy
    It makes it so when someone needs a walloping, you're in pole position to provide

  111. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the lore of the setting. More important than that, if you recognise that effective fighting is comprised of two things - first fighting and second leadership and collaboration. Again, depending on lore, there are few mages. Mages cannot properly collaborate and if the lore is arcane and magic requires a great effort and an academic life long commitment to the arcane. Theives are inherently anti-social and so it falls on warriors both gifted both in inclination (unlike theives) and time (unlike mages) to be leaders. Warrior as a class should be better seen as "champion" just as mages aren't just idle dabblers. Being a champion means commanding the trust and love of your fellow man by your deeds and your foresight.
    In the original D&D high level warriors become noble and commanded armies which the party mages would serve under using them as wealthy patrons to fund their continuing research into magecraft.
    Theives are retarded and their initial conception as scouts just makes them another specialisation of warrior/soldier - which is what they are/should be.

  112. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because we are men, unlike you gays.

  113. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because nerds belong in lockers

  114. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thief's are just the edgy pussy version of warriors, too afraid to fight danger head on. I feel warriors can easily do some things Rogues mostly do.

  115. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These are the classes

  116. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All this screeching
    Fighter and Wizard are the ultimate bro duo and will always be. Thieves belong behind bars.

  117. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me? Knight with very limited casting ability, a little bit of divine grace and an unusual knack for ballistae, struggling to choose between his by-the-book, stern shieldwielder comrade lady-in-waiting and the cuter frost bolt specialist cleric from his childhood that's much nicer to him and doesn't have shit takes about religion or attack people for no reason.

  118. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >martial prowess from before being resurrected
    >learn the most twisted spells on the planet as a pastime
    >women don't come near you because your smell reminds them to wash
    >can just rape corpses if you really feel like it
    >get to wear the best bling
    bow down

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