Male Shepard > Female Shepard. In every way. >b-b-b-but the voice act-

Male Shepard > Female Shepard. In every way.
>b-b-b-but the voice act-
Mark Meer sounds fine, maybe a bit too stiffed in the first game, but he nails it in 2 and 3. Jennifer Hale tries too hard and ends up sounding like a satire of a female soldier.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hale phones it in so hard. Look at the after Thessia in ME3, where Paragon Shepard yells at Joker. Meer sounds genuinely furious that he's making light of all those deaths. Hale sounds like she's reprimanding Joker because the top button of his shirt is undone.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder how the lines were presented to the voice actors. Meer's the better actor, particularly if he had to take the lines in a disjointed manner.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I wonder how the lines were presented to the voice actors
        Out of context for the fear of leaks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've heard there was no voice directions

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. That exchange between male Shepard and Joker always stuck out to me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I hate that scene.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Precisely

      There are key scenes in the series like the one you mention, others would be talking to Gavin Archer after finding David, the monologue after Citadel DLC, the battle speech on the collector ship where Shepard is doing more than just talking and in all of those scenes male shep just is objectively better

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the scene in question

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Onanymous

    I don't like staring at some dude's ass

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If thats where your eyes naturally wander to I have some bad new for you anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you staring at his ass?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Onanymous

        blame the cameraman retard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      got rope?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Liar.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Namefag
      >Is also gay
      Wow. I am so shocked.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We'll bang, ok?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think Shepard's ass is ever actually on frame except when you're walking around the ship.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fag

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      personally I love staring at man ass

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's enough from you OP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't really see Shepard's ass at all though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Classic Ganker.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. future chud suicide

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Male shep is and always has been he best. The game was created with him in mind.

      Lets just hope the next game is good

      If you focus on mens ass you're gay

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Female Shepard is frankly no more attractive

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Male shep is and always has been he best. The game was created with him in mind.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No shit
    He has a genuine model and he looks based.
    Meanwhile femshep is just some ugly generated npc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's hard to make a decent femshep that doesn't look like a hockey mask of Emma Stone, but it is possible

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least attempt not to make her look like a NPC.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >posts a hockey mask Emma Stone

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >posts a maid from motel 6

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why? This looks far worse and doesn't work at all - it's anime fanfic tier shit

          If you can't create a character that suits the world just use the default

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With mods especially but I think they really nailed male shep and I just don't see Mass Effect with anyone else.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that's true. I like making custom characters, but when I think of Mass Effect it's Sheploo.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pic unrelated

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Suits the voice, to be honest

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just replace femshep model with tali and let tali die so im the only quarrian ass.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is there really mods to play as other characters? Now that you mention it you'd think it'd be easy to replace Shepard with any of the multiplayer characters

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mark Meer sounds fine
    He sounds like a robot. He sounds so generic that I thought it was intentional the first time I played Mass Effect because there is customization.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know how anyone can listen to Jennifer Hale "act" and say with a straight face that she was worth every penny.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better performance than male Shepard and all your hate for women will never change that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shes a good voice actress but Meer is legitimately better from 2 on.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that they didn't come up with a canon femshep look until later makes it pretty clear Sheploo was the main intent, which is a bit unfortunate, because I like Jennifer Hale and had a great playthrough as femshep as well. Then they tried to fix it and fucked up again with that character creator-generated garbage. They really should have given her a proper model from the start.

    That said I like Sheploo and his somewhat nasal/perpetual cold voice too.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mark Meer explained in an interview that back during ME1's voiceover both him and Hale were asked to provide a neutral voice as players could have vastly different Shepards but the one thing that was consistent was their military background, thus why they wouldn't be over expressive. He was a less experienced VA at the time so he took that to the letter while Hale put more emotion no matter the direction. You can tell Meer grew into the role if you compare his lines in 1 with the ones in 3, fucker steals the show

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Renegade Sheploo belongs in an 80s action movie where the cop goes rogue to get the job done. Meer nails all the one liners and emotional scenes. Never understood the hate he got. If you don't like that he sounds like a boyscout then don't play paragon you fag.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Renegade Meer is fucking hilarious in 2 and 3. Not a single line in any of these games has measured up to "you're working too hard" and "you talk too much"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        KINO
        -1 Batarian btw

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they're definitely in the top of Shepard oneliners but I'm partial to "how about goodbye"

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've come to realize that I can only play as a female character in fantasy games. Playing as a sorceress or lady druid is fun but trying to take femshep seriously as humanities best soldier is just too out there. Also what kind of finook can play these games without going from Liara to Tali?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't bother with the romance crap at all
      It's badly implemented and amateur in its writing
      Plus, when Shep has a love interest it strips all the character from them

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >when Shep has a love interest it strips all the character from them

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This but I felt kinda bad when I got to me3 and you get kinda called out for being single
        Just like real life

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. I went on a full renegade run and avoided all romance. Then when you look at the photograph next to your bed, it’s just you jerking off in a dark room with one lit lamp instead of a love interest. Then you are forced to save the fucking world.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you get kinda called out for being single
          What, does some actually give you shit for it?
          t. Single in me1, tried to chase Samara in 2 and never played 3

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You get a stat debuff

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >does some actually give you shit for it
            Not at all

            ?t=130

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See

            This. I went on a full renegade run and avoided all romance. Then when you look at the photograph next to your bed, it’s just you jerking off in a dark room with one lit lamp instead of a love interest. Then you are forced to save the fucking world.

            “Haha look at this virgin what a beta orbiter”
            >otw to priority:earth where Shepard dies(determinant) to save the galaxy
            really biomeme?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Femshep with those noodle arms being humanity's greatest soldier was always funny to me.

      Doesn't seem that farfetched to me from a sci-fi perspective, when you have mass effect fields and biotics and exoskeletons and hi-tech weaponry leveling the playing field anyway.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meer is much better in 2 and 3 than Hale. And I'm gonna be honest, he fits Shepard in 1 better than Hale, too, given that he's meant to be neutral and a professional, so Hale overacting and going all breathy is annoying as shit.

      please ignore the vocal femshep fans. They are trannies, women, and coomers. Their opinion is of no matter.

      femshep was good, voice acting was good, but what's the point of being a woman in space?

      Barely anyone specifies MaleShep or Sheploo, when people say 'Shepard' everyone thinks of cover dude and when people say 'FemShep' everyone thinks of 3's default redhead

      is it just me or does anyone else think of Male and Female Shepard as two seperate characters?

      like when someone says "Shepard", I think of default male shepard, female shepard does not cross my mind once

      but when someone says "Femshep", I instantly know they're talking about Female shepard

      its like Shepard, and Femshep are two different characters despite being the exact same

      "Femshep is best renegade Shep" is pure cope for trannies, twittertards and retarderans
      Hale doesn't hold a candle to Meer in Paragon, even less in Renegade

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Femshep with those noodle arms being humanity's greatest soldier was always funny to me.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >satire of a female soldier
    A female soldier is already satire of a real soldier

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BIG
    STUPID
    JELLYFISH

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the animations are timed with Meer's voice, not Hale's

      ?t=189

      ?t=13
      kino

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never noticed that. Man Bioware are such fucking clowns

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just lazy.
        Also that scene is scene is love letter to Mark Meer. He voiced the Hanar and Vorcha species.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Too late, gay.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck your eye wizardry.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you chose any ending besides Destroy (the red one), then you were indoctrinated and the Reapers won.

        (pic4U)

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's blasto 6 partners in crime

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i just cant stand hale's voice. people like to complain that male shep cant emote but he does because he became a better va over the games, Jennifer however has one tone that never changes for 3 fucking games.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah not even remotely.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Agreed, I like Hale but for some reason she sounds off in these games. Meer sounds like an actual soldier dude. Hale sounds like she's voicing a gloomy protagonist in a YA series.

    Even in the first game Meer's acting is more consistent. I think part of the issue is that Meer is a native Albertan while Hale recorded her lines in LA, because you can tell that the director was able to get exactly what he wanted from Meer, but they had far more limited options with Hale's lines. The best example of this happens early in ME1. At the conclusion of the first conversation with Ashley, Shepard says "Move out!" and Ashley calmly nods in affirmation. Meer says this line in a firm, but conversational tone, and it works as a natural end to the conversation. Hale shouts this line as if she was in the middle of a firefight. It's incredibly jarring to hear Shepard suddenly shouting at the end of a calm conversation, and it's even more jarring to see Ashley peacefully nod in response without any indication of urgency. It's obvious that Meer was able to record a line that fit the specific context, and Hale was either given incorrect direction or they had to use a take from a different situation. This inconsistency is somewhat improved in 2 and 3, but it's still possible to point to instances where Hale's voice acting does not match the situation at hand. A good example is how Hale always sounds flirtatious when she's talking to Jacob, as if they simply didn't have the time/budget to record an alternate set of lines that sounded more friendly.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is ME2 worth a play? I heard its story was really shit. Not what you'd expect after ME1.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its the best one.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ME2 story is just one big side quest and not focusing on the Reapers too much which is one of the reasons why it's my favourite Mass Effect game. It also get bonus points for letting me be able to romance Tali

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds good for the romance but it's really a minor addition.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ME1/2/3 are all good overall, years of memeing have understandably made you nervous but you won't regret it dang.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It takes all the build-up and good faith from the first game and throws it out the fucking window replacing it with absolutely nothing. It's 30 hours of wasting time with a donutsteel faction that doesn't matter and by the time the credits role you're in the exact same place you were at the end of 1.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol. That sounds terrible. I guess the rumors were right.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care. ME2 has way more interesting side stories and character arcs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Character arcs
          No one gives a fuck about that. The story revolving around the player character is the most important thing. Side characters are just extra and their arcs mean nothing if they have nothing to do with the protag or his main plot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The main character and the main plot have always been the weakest part of these games. The side characters carried this franchise.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you an idiot? Side characters serve a purpose alongside the main intrigue of the story. In this case stopping the reapers. A game which places overwhelming amount of importance on side characters and completely forgets about the protagonist's main plot is going to suck.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If not for Mass Effect 2, they could not have stopped the Reaper threat.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >character arcs
          And the character arcs are completely disconnected from the main story. As in, fixing people's daddy issues has nothing to do with Horizon or the Collectors. Meaning there's no reason you couldn't have had the same "character arcs" in a game with a main quest that wasn't garbage and detrimental to the experience

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who cares if it's pointless in the overarching story, it's a great ride.

        Is Andromeda worth 10 bucks? Does it at least feel good to play, like shoot shit and stuff?

        Gameplay is probably the best part of it. You've got a jetpack/booster that's pretty fun to zip around with, a new Mako that's decently fun, and combat isn't bad either. It's worth 10 bucks for the content you get, the bigger question is if it's worth the time it takes to play it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've played ME2 twice but never beat it because I got bored. I even got pretty far on the first playthrough, almost to the last mission but that was more due to my determination as a gamer than the story being good. KotOR was better by every metric.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All 3 are worth playing. Plot goes to shit but the characters and overall gameplay/atmosphere are really strong. 2 in particular has some of the best characters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It effectively destroyed any chances Mass Effect had of being a good trilogy. Make of that what you will.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a good trilogy shut the fuck up you uptight tryhard gay

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll accept the concession. The Arrival DLC is an hour long and has a bigger impact than the entire rest of the game

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Arrival is what makes 2 pointless. The reapers were literally on the way, and rather than a game about sneaking past the iron curtain to save the galaxy we have the collectors and their contrived movie plot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're like me you'll hate every time Shepard and company talk about the suicide mission as a suicide mission they're prepared to not come back from as if the colossal retards didn't know the Collectors don't matter and the Reapers will still be around after them. There's this huge dissonance between what ME1 implies Shepard will do and what you're actually doing in a moment to moment gameplay in ME2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The quality of ME's gameplay goes up in inverse proportion to the decline of the writing quality
      ME2 is the best of both worlds and is thus the best ME game
      ME3 has lol lmao writing but is one of the most fun third person shooters out there

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol
        lmao even
        1 has better writing, 3 has better gameplay

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's literally what he said retard?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"ME2"
        >"best of both worlds"
        Implying it has anything even remotely close to "good enough writing"
        >the Collectors ambush and destroy the SR1 but abduct nobody. Why not?
        >Shepard's body survives atmospheric reentry. How?
        >Shepard is important not because of his skills, or what he's accomplished; not because of the cipher, or his Ilos knowledge... but rather because he's now "a hero, a bloody icon"... why?
        >if he's important, why do the Collectors not care if they kill or capture him?
        >if he's so much of an icon, why isn't he believed or followed by anyone but his squad?
        >where did Mordin get the Seeker Swarm bug he made the pre-Horizon protection from?
        >if the Alliance truly doesn't care, why are they putting turrets on Horizon? Moreover, why the fuck weren't they working? The only thing you do is turn them back on, meaning if they had worked from the get go the Collectors would've straight up not been able to do jackshit
        >if the Collectors attacked Horizon because the Virmire Survivor was there and they're connected to Shepard, why did they not abduct them? They managed to take half the colony including Lilith who was talking with the Virmire Survivor and was frozen a few meters away from them, yet the Virmire Survivor was left alone?
        >if Cerberus are such a competent and secretive shadow faction, why are they brandishing their logo on everything, including ships they'll dock in the Citadel?
        >why would Cerberus even TRY to have Shepard recruit Jack of all people? What's the logic?
        >considering TIM knows about indoctrination, what the hell was Cerberus' plan on the Derelict Reaper?
        >why do we care so little about the Derelict Reaper when it is so much more useful to our overall goal (stopping the Reapers) than stopping the Collectors is? Why do we not tell anyone about it?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the Collectors ambush and destroy the SR1 but abduct nobody. Why not?
          why the fuck would they bother giving the Normandy a chance to escape/fight for a few dozen humans?
          >Shepard's body survives atmospheric reentry.
          ...no, it didn't. he died.
          >but rather because he's now "a hero, a bloody icon"... why?
          local anon struggles to understand the concept of propaganda in war.
          >why do the Collectors not care if they kill or capture him?
          they literally killed him.
          >why isn't he believed or followed by anyone but his squad?
          he was, then he died, nothing else happened, people forgot.
          >where did Mordin get the Seeker Swarm bug
          Freedom's Progress
          >why are they putting turrets on Horizon?
          Pirates/slavers
          >why the fuck weren't they working?
          they were functional aside from the targeting systems, which the VS was there to fix, but EDI was able to do it faster.
          >why did they not abduct them?
          because like you said they only managed to take half the colony before Shepard showed up.
          >why are they brandishing their logo on everything
          because they want to take credit for saving humanity
          >why would Cerberus even TRY to have Shepard recruit Jack of all people?
          why would they try to get their costly investment back under control?
          >what the hell was Cerberus' plan on the Derelict Reaper?
          they took precautions, indoctrination shielding is possible, they got careless after everything seemed to be inactive
          >Why do we not tell anyone about it?
          it gets destroyed after the mission

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >atmospheric reentry
            >no, it didn't. he died
            The level of stupidity... is too high.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            >why did everyone have to leave the Normandy for no reason, even when I have no loyalty missions left, to do some test for no apparent purpose other than to set the ship up to be defenseless if the Collectors attack?
            >why do the Collectors abduct the Normandy's crew but not try to blow it up afterwards, when it was an empty sitting duck and it would've effectively destroyed any chance Shepard had of stopping them?
            >how did the Collectors miss Veetor when nobody else has found any evidence of their attacks and no witnesses? You're telling me Freedom's Progress was the very first colony in years that had at the very least one non-human resident?
            >why do Shepard and co. seriously humour the idea of the Collectors attacking Earth when just two shitty human defense turrets are enough to scare off their ship?
            >why, in the Suicide Mission, does the door jam even if you pick the correct Tech Expert but the wrong Fireteam Leader?
            >why the Human Reaper? Seriously, what the fuck
            >why can't you say you're destroying the Collector Base for fear of indoctrination and not some stupid reasoning about "muh morals"?

            >why did everyone have to leave the Normandy for no reason
            they get all critical personnel off the ship while they're testing the IFF just in case it explodes or something.
            >why do the Collectors abduct the Normandy's crew but not try to blow it up afterwards
            they had already captured the ship, likely would have tried to pull information from the computer, recover the IFF tech, and anything else that's valuable on a top-of-the-line ship like that if Joker didn't unshackle EDI.
            >how did the Collectors miss Veetor
            suit masked his life signs, they had no reason to expect anything other than humans to be there.
            >why do Shepard and co. seriously humour the idea of the Collectors attacking Earth
            because they have enough pods for Earth, which indicates that at some point they will be attacking Earth, although presumably not with a single ship.
            >why, in the Suicide Mission, does the door jam
            doors get stuck.
            >why the Human Reaper?
            because it's the reapers' way of memorializing the species that are harvested.
            >why can't you say you're destroying the Collector Base for fear of indoctrination
            because it's accepted that exploring the base and recovering tech is dangerous, the question is whether that tech is worth it or not, and that is a moral dilemma of how many lives are worth the tech in that base.

            there are plenty of good reasons to shit on ME2, why do people always choose the worst ones?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they get all critical personnel off the ship while they're testing the IFF just in case it explodes
              Now you're just making shit up. Source? When is this said? Why would TIM or Shepard risk blowing up the Normandy and EDI and Joker and Chakwas and the rest of the crew? What mission does Shepard need to complete? I had my quest log empty
              >they had already captured the ship
              And then they don't anymore, so why do the Collectors abduct the Normandy's crew but not try to blow it up afterwards?
              >likely would have tried to pull information from the computer, recover the IFF tech, and anything else that's valuable on a top-of-the-line ship like that if Joker didn't unshackle EDI
              Nice fanfic
              >suit masked his life signs
              Nice fanfic, I guess generic quarian suits are great to sneak inside anything you feel like it. Not like Tali says her suit could make things like casino sensors haywire, and not like we're constantly told Collector tech is supposed to be state of the art
              >because they have enough pods for Earth
              Why would that indicate attacking an entire planet, when two shitty turrets stopped them?
              >presumably not with a single ship
              But a single ship is all they had
              >doors get stuck
              Not when they're being operated by the right tech expert, they shouldn't
              >because it's the reapers' way of memorializing the species that are harvested
              Shaped like a fucking dude with arms and legs like the Contra 3 boss? lol, lmao even
              >it's accepted that exploring the base and recovering tech is dangerous
              Not if Cerberus' past and future actions are taken into account
              >the question is whether that tech is worth it or not, and that is a moral dilemma
              Jesus fucking christ

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they're leaving the Normandy just in case it explodes
              So this is a typical ME2-fag brain...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >because it's the reapers' way of memorializing the species that are harvested.
              Why did the collectors even need to turn humans into onions orange in the first place? Like. If if you wanted to "preserve a part of humanity" by harvesting DNA, just hack into a couple of medical and police databases and shit like that and download the information. No need to manually invade a bunch of colonies and turn everyone into mashed potatoes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget none of the other reapers are shaped like a species.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why the Human Reaper?
              >because it's the reapers' way of memorializing the species that are harvested.
              Unfathomably intelligent sentient machine can only understand human species through turning them into pudding and shoving them inside a human skeleton shaped robot. Bravo. 10/10.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why the fuck would they bother giving the Normandy a chance to escape/fight for a few dozen humans?
            Because they sure as fuck seem interested in it at the end of the game
            >...no, it didn't. he died
            Zero reading comprehension, I see
            >understand the concept of propaganda in war
            But we then see that quite literally no one in the galaxy gives a single shit about Shepard besides Cerberus and a couple Citadel stores, so how is he a symbol again? Why was his center role in the plot due to his unique knowledge of past events replaced with "he's an icon idk"
            >nothing else happened
            And now he's back and no one cares
            >people forgot
            Then he's not much of a symbol for propaganda
            >Freedom's Progress
            But there was quite literally nothing left there and at no point are you told differently. *Nothing*
            >Pirates/slavers
            But I thought the Alliance didn't care about its colonies?
            >why the fuck weren't they working?
            >they were functional aside from the targeting systems
            So they weren't working?
            >they only managed to take half the colony
            And he was the primary target. And the got Lilith who was LITERALLY NEXT TO THEM
            >because they want to take credit for saving humanity
            The only thing they'd take credit for is being arrested five minutes into docking on the Citadel
            >why would they try to get their costly investment back under control?
            Because in a well written game there'd be no change in hell for Jack to board a Cerberus ship
            >they took precautions
            lol
            lmao even
            >it gets destroyed after the mission
            Why not make absolutely sure there's nothing left? The Council sent people to Ilos, and you're arguing Shepard's meat body could survive splashing against a planet. Why not a giant metallic squid?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Because they sure as fuck seem interested in it at the end of the game
              You mean when the SR-2 is captured? An entirely different ship with far more advanced capabilities? That they were able to immobilize immediately and only had to face minimal resistance on-board as opposed to allowing the best helmsman in the Alliance enough time to evade and escape?
              >Zero reading comprehension, I see
              You asked how he survived, I said he didn't. Do you mean how the body is intact? Because that armour is insanely sturdy and can withstand incredible temperatures according to lore in ME1. And any calculations for re-entry go out the window when you're dealing with an alien planet.
              >But we then see that quite literally no one in the galaxy gives a single shit about Shepard
              ...two years later, after he's been dead?
              >And now he's back and no one cares
              Who doesn't care that should care?
              >Then he's not much of a symbol
              His very presence provokes the Collectors into exposing themselves so that's clearly not true.
              >But there was quite literally nothing left there
              Veetor was left there.
              >But I thought the Alliance didn't care about its colonies?
              Hence why they gave them two fucking turrets that just make them a target instead of any meaningful assistance. Literally play the game, this is all spelled out for you.
              >So they weren't working?
              ...No, of course they weren't working. You asked why they weren't working, I explained why, and now you're acting like the fact that they weren't working was in debate?
              >And he was the primary target.
              All the colonists were the target, their plan was to get everyone, then Shepard interrupted them. Did you expect the individual Collectors to be carrying a photo of the VS and check each body just so that they could load them up maybe a few minutes earlier?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You mean when the SR-2 is captured?
                Which doesn't change its crew or its commander?
                >That they were able to immobilize immediately
                Sounds like the SR1 would've been even easier to handle then
                >You asked how he survived
                I asked how *his body* survived. As I said, zero reading comprehension
                >...two years later, after he's been dead?
                Not much of an icon, seems like
                >His very presence provokes the Collectors into exposing themselves
                Almost as if they didn't exist when 1 was written because they don't make sense, and the Collectors had been harvesting colonies long before Shepard woke up
                >Veetor was left there
                Doesn't sound much like a Seeker Swarm
                >the Alliance didn't care about its colonies
                >Hence why they gave them two fucking turrets
                Read this again, but slower
                >...No, of course they weren't working
                Sounds like a pretty retarded thing to do, to set up turrets just to have people come and fix them without being fired once. Sure sounds convenient for certain parties.
                >All the colonists were the target
                They only attack Horizon after the Virmire Survivor is present, and it is a fact that they're interested in Shepard and anyone tied to him. Again, they got Lilith who was RIGHT NEXT to Kashley. Why I wonder is that the one point you're conveniently ignoring?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Which doesn't change its crew or its commander?
                What does that have to do with anything? You are still comparing the decision to destroy a functioning and incredibly fast ship vs. the decision to preserve an immobile much more highly advanced ship that has already been captured. And you have no reason for why they should destroy the latter other than "they really hate that ship's commander".
                >Sounds like the SR1 would've been even easier to handle then
                Are you actually retarded enough to forget the IFF trap or are you being dishonest?
                >I asked how *his body* survived.
                And I answered.
                >Not much of an icon, seems like
                I'll ask again: who in the game doesn't have an appropriate reaction to meeting Shepard or learning that he's alive? Or are you going to pretend that every celebrity is just as popular two years after they've died as at the height of their popularity?
                >Almost as if they didn't exist when 1 was written
                What would they have accomplished in 1 that was worth the risk of humans finding their base or getting advanced tech off of them?
                >Doesn't sound much like a Seeker Swarm
                Already responded to this.
                >Read this again, but slower
                Yes because the cost of two defence turrets would bankrupt the fucking Alliance military. The sheer cost of that shit that you destroyed by the dozen in ME1 contradicts everything in the narrative. Clearly the Alliance must care if some pencil pusher responded to complaints about safety by throwing a couple broken guns at a colony and calling it a day. Because making a big show of helping while offering only minimal cheap assistance isn't ever something any government has done. Retard.
                >Sounds like a pretty retarded thing to do
                Wow who could have guessed almost as if governments are retarded and don't fucking care about isolated communities huh wowzers.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they got Lilith who was RIGHT NEXT to Kashley
                No... she was running away while the VS was standing their ground. The VS got stung first while Lilith was fleeing with the others. Again: what is your solution for the Collectors making sure they get the VS? Giving each one a photo? Having Harby pop in and look at every single person they take?

                >two years later, after he's been dead?
                So what you're saying is... he was an icon for 30 days? Because 2's intro happens merely a month after the ending of 1. Kind of a shit hero and 'bloody' icon

                >So what you're saying is... he was an icon for 30 days?
                You're right, Miranda should have looked into the future and foreseen that Shepard would get unceremoniously killed off in a month, I bet she felt really bad about having forgotten to take the future into account when she said that.

                >Why would the law arrest a xenophobic terrorist group known to attack aliens and humans alike
                >Literally why the fuck would Cerberus not try to recruit a powerful biotic
                Recruiting a powerful and psychotic Cerberus victim to work for Cerberus is beyond stupid, why would you go to so much trouble to recruit someone with such a massive grudge against your organization when there are presumably less destructive options available? This is either intended (recruiting Jack is retarded on purpose to highlight the staggering incompetence and shortsightedness of Cerberus, followed up by her loyalty mission which underscores that on top of their incompetence they are also manifestly evil) or unintended (they couldn’t keep track of what Cerberus was from one scene to the next and didn’t realize that the idea of Jack being a Cerberus victim was totally at odds with her being on the recruitment list). In either case the writer is incompetent
                >Did you miss all the tech set up to try and seal off parts of the reaper
                What I didn't miss was the scientists becoming indoctrinated a few weeks into their research
                >Anon. It literally FALLS INTO A SUN
                And Shepard squashes against a planet's surface from outer space and is somehow brought back to life. Sounds genuinely harder to believe.
                >The IFF is fucking up the ship's systems so they pull the main team off of the ship to make their next trip solo
                So no source on fear of the Normandy EXPLODING with crew inside, got it

                >Recruiting a powerful and psychotic Cerberus victim to work for Cerberus is beyond stupid
                And yet it works. Huh.
                >why would you go to so much trouble to recruit someone with such a massive grudge against your organization
                Because she's one of the best available.
                >when there are presumably less destructive options available?
                Like Samara, who is also on the list to be recruited. So if Jack didn't work out they'd still get her. And if that didn't work out they'd get someone else. Where's the problem?
                >her loyalty mission which underscores that on top of their incompetence they are also manifestly evil
                Their experiment working makes them incompetent?
                >What I didn't miss was the scientists becoming indoctrinated a few weeks into their research
                So what specifically should they have done to protect against indoctrination? I assume you know that if you're going to complain about it.
                >Sounds genuinely harder to believe.
                You not knowing the difference between a star and a planet is your own problem.
                >So no source on fear of the Normandy EXPLODING with crew inside, got it
                They need the crew to make the ship work and test the systems. Fucking hell.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hurrdurr I'm a gay gurrduur

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bother

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

                Piss off or I'll fucking death note you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why the fuck would they bother giving the Normandy a chance to escape/fight for a few dozen humans?
                Because they sure as fuck seem interested in it at the end of the game
                >...no, it didn't. he died
                Zero reading comprehension, I see
                >understand the concept of propaganda in war
                But we then see that quite literally no one in the galaxy gives a single shit about Shepard besides Cerberus and a couple Citadel stores, so how is he a symbol again? Why was his center role in the plot due to his unique knowledge of past events replaced with "he's an icon idk"
                >nothing else happened
                And now he's back and no one cares
                >people forgot
                Then he's not much of a symbol for propaganda
                >Freedom's Progress
                But there was quite literally nothing left there and at no point are you told differently. *Nothing*
                >Pirates/slavers
                But I thought the Alliance didn't care about its colonies?
                >why the fuck weren't they working?
                >they were functional aside from the targeting systems
                So they weren't working?
                >they only managed to take half the colony
                And he was the primary target. And the got Lilith who was LITERALLY NEXT TO THEM
                >because they want to take credit for saving humanity
                The only thing they'd take credit for is being arrested five minutes into docking on the Citadel
                >why would they try to get their costly investment back under control?
                Because in a well written game there'd be no change in hell for Jack to board a Cerberus ship
                >they took precautions
                lol
                lmao even
                >it gets destroyed after the mission
                Why not make absolutely sure there's nothing left? The Council sent people to Ilos, and you're arguing Shepard's meat body could survive splashing against a planet. Why not a giant metallic squid?

                >The only thing they'd take credit for is being arrested
                Why would the Citadel arrest a ship for having a logo on it? This is ignoring that Anderson invited Shepard to the Citadel, and you get the scene where Shepard convinces Bailey to let him through customs. Oh right, but he did that because of Shepard's status and reputation, which according to you doesn't exist.
                >Because in a well written game there'd be no change in hell for Jack to board a Cerberus ship
                Literally why the fuck would Cerberus not try to recruit a powerful biotic, let alone one that they specifically created? This is one of the main reasons they have Shepard, because Shepard is able to make friends and recruit people that nobody with Cerberus can. But oh yeah, nobody cares for Shepard's return and he's not a symbol of anything, right.
                >lmao even
                Did you miss all the tech set up to try and seal off parts of the reaper from where the people were living? It's all there in the game, dude. They took precautions that they thought were appropriate considering they had no readings of any signals or anything coming from the reaper, those precautions weren't enough, but TIM didn't send anyone who wasn't expendable anyway. What should they have done differently?
                >Why not make absolutely sure there's nothing left?
                Anon. It literally FALLS INTO A SUN.
                >Now you're just making shit up. Source? When is this said?

                ?t=30
                The IFF is fucking up the ship's systems, so they pull the main team off of the ship to make their next trip solo, just in case.
                Play the game.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would the law arrest a xenophobic terrorist group known to attack aliens and humans alike
                >Literally why the fuck would Cerberus not try to recruit a powerful biotic
                Recruiting a powerful and psychotic Cerberus victim to work for Cerberus is beyond stupid, why would you go to so much trouble to recruit someone with such a massive grudge against your organization when there are presumably less destructive options available? This is either intended (recruiting Jack is retarded on purpose to highlight the staggering incompetence and shortsightedness of Cerberus, followed up by her loyalty mission which underscores that on top of their incompetence they are also manifestly evil) or unintended (they couldn’t keep track of what Cerberus was from one scene to the next and didn’t realize that the idea of Jack being a Cerberus victim was totally at odds with her being on the recruitment list). In either case the writer is incompetent
                >Did you miss all the tech set up to try and seal off parts of the reaper
                What I didn't miss was the scientists becoming indoctrinated a few weeks into their research
                >Anon. It literally FALLS INTO A SUN
                And Shepard squashes against a planet's surface from outer space and is somehow brought back to life. Sounds genuinely harder to believe.
                >The IFF is fucking up the ship's systems so they pull the main team off of the ship to make their next trip solo
                So no source on fear of the Normandy EXPLODING with crew inside, got it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why
                Because she's an incredibly powerful biotic, and Cerberus figures that Shepard has the charisma to make her loyal to him, even if she will always hate Cerberus for what they did to her (made her what she is)

                it's quite clever actually

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's quite clever actually
                t. ME2 writers' room

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                btw Miranda is the strongest biotic on the team

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Feels like almost every single person in the ME squad is a super powerful biotic. Kind of silly when you think about it.

                >Shepard is a biotic, can become super powerful if you play Adept/Vanguard, even without training you can still use powerful biotic abilities as any other class
                >Kaidan has L2 implants making him more powerful than the average human biotic
                >Liara is an Asari, and despite being just a scientist is still a powerful biotic
                >Wrex is a battlemaster, a super rare ultra cool Krogan biotic

                >Thane used his Biotics to become the bestest assassin in the world
                >Jack is Jack
                >Miranda is engineered to be a powerful biotic
                >Samara is arguably the second most powerful biotic in the game, perhaps even as strong as Jack
                >even fucking Jacob is a biotic, but arguably not super powerful at it, still above average

                >Javik is like an Asari on steroids when it comes to biotics

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean to be fair you're deliberately building a team of the most elite people you can get (and also Jacob) so you'd expect them all to be above-average at most things at least (except for interpersonal relations apparently but I guess that's where Shepard actually gets the rare opportunity to be an officer)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I honestly tend to forget Thane is a biotic at all, feels like it adds nothing to the character and if anything his rigorous body and martial arts training would make you think he doesn't have the ability to make people float

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why the fuck would Jack be affected by Shepard being an icon when she was frozen in the Terminus Systems when he did his thing? She has to look up the Battle of the Citadel on the Internet aboard the Normandy to get caught up on things. Joining Cerberus after a two minute long conversation is stupid beyond belief.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she doesn't join Cerberus, she joins Shepard's crew

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So why the fuck would Jack be affected by Shepard being an icon when she was frozen in the Terminus Systems when he did his thing?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they get all critical personnel off the ship while they're testing the IFF just in case it explodes
                Now you're just making shit up. Source? When is this said? Why would TIM or Shepard risk blowing up the Normandy and EDI and Joker and Chakwas and the rest of the crew? What mission does Shepard need to complete? I had my quest log empty
                >they had already captured the ship
                And then they don't anymore, so why do the Collectors abduct the Normandy's crew but not try to blow it up afterwards?
                >likely would have tried to pull information from the computer, recover the IFF tech, and anything else that's valuable on a top-of-the-line ship like that if Joker didn't unshackle EDI
                Nice fanfic
                >suit masked his life signs
                Nice fanfic, I guess generic quarian suits are great to sneak inside anything you feel like it. Not like Tali says her suit could make things like casino sensors haywire, and not like we're constantly told Collector tech is supposed to be state of the art
                >because they have enough pods for Earth
                Why would that indicate attacking an entire planet, when two shitty turrets stopped them?
                >presumably not with a single ship
                But a single ship is all they had
                >doors get stuck
                Not when they're being operated by the right tech expert, they shouldn't
                >because it's the reapers' way of memorializing the species that are harvested
                Shaped like a fucking dude with arms and legs like the Contra 3 boss? lol, lmao even
                >it's accepted that exploring the base and recovering tech is dangerous
                Not if Cerberus' past and future actions are taken into account
                >the question is whether that tech is worth it or not, and that is a moral dilemma
                Jesus fucking christ

                >so why do the Collectors abduct the Normandy's crew but not try to blow it up afterwards?
                Why would they blow it up? They still have their IFF on-board, there are data banks with intel on Cerberus and who knows what else, an incredibly advanced drive core, and various other top-of-the-line systems. Why would they bother to blow up a seemingly empty ship instead of searching it for any more survivors or useful intel?
                >Nice fanfic
                Thinking that they'd want to blow up a unique and incredibly valuable ship WHILE THEIR OWN SOLDIERS WERE STILL ON BOARD is also a really nice fanfic.
                >Nice fanfic
                Literally stated in the game, retard.

                ?t=119
                >Why would that indicate attacking an entire planet
                Because we know the Collectors are working for the reapers.
                >But a single ship is all they had
                >what are the reapers?
                >Not when they're being operated by the right tech expert
                The right tech expert is able to fix the problem within a couple seconds. So what the fuck is your complaint? That equipment should never be able to break, or that it should be repaired instantly?
                >Shaped like a fucking dude with arms and legs like the Contra 3 boss?
                Unfinished design and there's no reason for it to look exceptionally pretty.
                >Jesus fucking christ
                Your argument is that the tech carries risk of indoctrination, which means whoever studies it might go crazy and die. So the argument is whether the tech is worth people dying, which is a moral debate. Again, I don't know what the problem is supposed to be here. You are complaining that a choice about whether it's worth people dying to horrific technology is worth potential advances with that tech is a moral decision or not.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >two years later, after he's been dead?
                So what you're saying is... he was an icon for 30 days? Because 2's intro happens merely a month after the ending of 1. Kind of a shit hero and 'bloody' icon

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"ME2"
        >"best of both worlds"
        Implying it has anything even remotely close to "good enough writing"
        >the Collectors ambush and destroy the SR1 but abduct nobody. Why not?
        >Shepard's body survives atmospheric reentry. How?
        >Shepard is important not because of his skills, or what he's accomplished; not because of the cipher, or his Ilos knowledge... but rather because he's now "a hero, a bloody icon"... why?
        >if he's important, why do the Collectors not care if they kill or capture him?
        >if he's so much of an icon, why isn't he believed or followed by anyone but his squad?
        >where did Mordin get the Seeker Swarm bug he made the pre-Horizon protection from?
        >if the Alliance truly doesn't care, why are they putting turrets on Horizon? Moreover, why the fuck weren't they working? The only thing you do is turn them back on, meaning if they had worked from the get go the Collectors would've straight up not been able to do jackshit
        >if the Collectors attacked Horizon because the Virmire Survivor was there and they're connected to Shepard, why did they not abduct them? They managed to take half the colony including Lilith who was talking with the Virmire Survivor and was frozen a few meters away from them, yet the Virmire Survivor was left alone?
        >if Cerberus are such a competent and secretive shadow faction, why are they brandishing their logo on everything, including ships they'll dock in the Citadel?
        >why would Cerberus even TRY to have Shepard recruit Jack of all people? What's the logic?
        >considering TIM knows about indoctrination, what the hell was Cerberus' plan on the Derelict Reaper?
        >why do we care so little about the Derelict Reaper when it is so much more useful to our overall goal (stopping the Reapers) than stopping the Collectors is? Why do we not tell anyone about it?

        >why did everyone have to leave the Normandy for no reason, even when I have no loyalty missions left, to do some test for no apparent purpose other than to set the ship up to be defenseless if the Collectors attack?
        >why do the Collectors abduct the Normandy's crew but not try to blow it up afterwards, when it was an empty sitting duck and it would've effectively destroyed any chance Shepard had of stopping them?
        >how did the Collectors miss Veetor when nobody else has found any evidence of their attacks and no witnesses? You're telling me Freedom's Progress was the very first colony in years that had at the very least one non-human resident?
        >why do Shepard and co. seriously humour the idea of the Collectors attacking Earth when just two shitty human defense turrets are enough to scare off their ship?
        >why, in the Suicide Mission, does the door jam even if you pick the correct Tech Expert but the wrong Fireteam Leader?
        >why the Human Reaper? Seriously, what the fuck
        >why can't you say you're destroying the Collector Base for fear of indoctrination and not some stupid reasoning about "muh morals"?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ME2 is the best of both worlds and is thus the best ME game
        Lol look at this dude

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They hated him because he spoke the truth

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Not what you'd expect after ME1
      That depends, did you expect Shepard to die five minutes into the game only for him to come back alive and the fact to never ever be mentioned again in any meaningful manner as if curing death wasn't a big deal?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a sidequest. The shooting is a little bit better, the everything else is a downgrade. The main mission pretty much leaves everything where it was to begin with, though there's a DLC that adds some more stuff afterward IIRC.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on what you want from a ME game.

      In regards to gameplay I honestly think it's the weakest of the three. It tries to go for a more action centric cover shooter feel than 1, limiting your abilities while focusing more on shooting, but the shooting doesn't feel particularly great and ME3 completely mogs it as an action game. It also has a shit ton of filler and planet scanning is one of the worst mechanics in any ME game. It's not a terrible game to play, none of the ME games really are, but I think it kind of feels like a transitional period between RPG ME1 and Action game ME3 and it's worse off than either for it.

      In regards to story, it's debatable. I personally would say it's the best written game in the series while also kind of failing at being a part of a trilogy. The writing itself is probably the best in the series, with some of the most nuanced character portrayals and best interactions the series has to offer, along with what I'd consider to be the best roster of teammates in the series. The ending is also absolute kino, being an exciting finale that manages to one up the final mission of 1 while also feeling far more personal in its stakes. There are a few plot holes and weird conveniences throughout the game and Jacob sucks, but all in all it's just a really great story. The issue is that it doesn't really connect to the overarching plot of the trilogy very well and the events of 2 more or less get glossed over in 3. In regards to the actual reaper invasion, the only thing in 2 that really matters is the final DLC which is meant to bridge into 3. Regardless, I still love the story and its presentation, and it absolutely destroys 3 in that regard (not too hard to do though with 3 being such a train wreck in the narrative department).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >planet scanning
        why would you remind me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I am so fucking glad that I installed the mod that just instantly skips planet scanning because otherwise I would not have gotten through ME2 on my recent replay.
          Such a fucking downgrade from Mako exploration which, while flawed in a number of ways, was one of the most unique aspects of ME1's gameplay and an element that I wish had stayed with the trilogy if only for how much it adds to the atmosphere and feeling of exploring the unknown.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, you're just gay.
        ME2 is a gigantic step up from ME1, in terms of polish, consistency, and cohesiveness. ME1 trannies and ME3 trannies can seethe for life, knowing that ME2 will always be considered by everyone, the best game in the franchise, and one of the best games of all time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          (You)
          Never do Red Sand, anons

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're trying too hard anon.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based, ME2 is still the highest rated RPG in history.
          I love the red filter, ME2 is such a melancholic game.

          You're trying too hard anon.

          Cry about it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ME2 feels a bit souless for some reason. It's like there's no central theme.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t.brainlet
        Central theme of ME2 is humanity, our place and significance in the galaxy, also loss, how the wild west of the galaxy would like like.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          look like**

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      every single character in your squad has something that you don't need to stretch very far to call it "daddy issues", and the squad is bigger than ever
      think about the writing staff that would do this, and then ask yourself if you want to find out about anything else in the game

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone has daddy issues.
        Even Legion.
        Even Wrex.
        Even Tali.
        Even Liara.
        Even Garrus.
        Everyone.
        No exceptions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ashley
        >garrus
        >wrex
        >tali
        >liara
        >miranda
        >jacob
        >grunt
        >EDI

        >kaidan
        >zaeed
        >kasumi
        >mordin
        >jack
        >samara
        >thane
        >legion
        >james
        >javik
        You're right, almost 50% have some sort of daddy issue. In EDI's case, it's referenced more as a joke, but still.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >garrus
          It's pretty satisfying though when his father believes and stands up for him between 2 and 3.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if you want to find out about anything else in the game
        Yea I'd like to find out about anything else but the irrelevant problems of side characters which the game seems to have put heavy emphasis on them.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    female shep is an afterthought saddly, but not as bad as dragon dogma's female character playthrough

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you play a female in any RPG or MMO you deserve to be banned.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Andromeda worth 10 bucks? Does it at least feel good to play, like shoot shit and stuff?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >writing
      Really amateur in most places. Story choices don't matter. Ryder feels like a limp-dicked beta, no matter how you play it
      >characters
      Most of them are either boring or insufferable. No real standouts. The villain is bafflingly retarded
      >companions
      Drack's kinda okay and so is Vetra, but the rest don't really have a core to them. Cora and Liam are the most boring ones, Peepoo's fun to yell at the couple of times you're allowed to do it. Jaal's strange in that he's supposed to be one of the best soldiers in the Angara army and a awkward NEET at the same time. Whoever wrote Suvi is a fucking retard and can't into human dialogue
      >gameplay
      Really repetitive. Once you figure out a playstyle that you're comfortable with, there's no reason to switch things around. Combat and driving around becomes very tedious
      >exploration
      Frostbite can pull off some pretty landscapes but they aren't really that alien. It's mostly boring deserts and the only cool thing is at the very end of the game. It's super fucking slow without mods though
      >voice acting
      Differs depending on the actor. They got Clancy Brown to voice the dad but he dies in the prologue. There are the usual crowd of competent voice actors in there, voicing all the extras. Male Ryder's VA is better than female Ryder's though you'll hate the character regardless.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For multiplayer, sure. Single-player isn't worth touching unless you're the kind of person who likes watching shitty movies for ironic enjoyment. If you are, then it's a fun time.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meer is much better in 2 and 3 than Hale. And I'm gonna be honest, he fits Shepard in 1 better than Hale, too, given that he's meant to be neutral and a professional, so Hale overacting and going all breathy is annoying as shit.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Femshep is hot

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sick of this "ME2 was a waste of time and only a sidequest" shit.
    >developed Cerberus, a major faction in 3 that heavily impact the plot and ending
    >set up Quarian politics that impact the plot
    >set up Krogan politics that impact the plot
    >main plot is foiling the reaper's second (third with arrival) attempt to have a reaper inside the milky way open up a relay
    >puts Shepard in a position where he can't get rally an army or convince the galaxy as a whole to prepare for the reapers
    >elaborates on the reapers' motivations and what they do with the harvested races
    You can't go from ME1 to ME3 without missing a shitload of important context.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >developed Cerberus, a major faction in 3 that heavily impact the plot and ending
      2 didn't develop Cerberus to make use of it in 3, 3 had to make use of it because it was forced on you in 2. Why is Shepard forced to work for someone that could've massacred their friends on Akuze? Why can't you ever bring it up? Why can't you ever defy the Illusive Man? Why is Cerberus now branding your copy pasted Normandy with their terrorist logos? Cerberus was fucking garbage from the second 2's intro plays
      >main plot is foiling the reaper's second attempt to have a reaper inside the milky way open up a relay
      You're an inbred, the Collectors retroactively make 1's story retarded. They're obviously able to establish a link outside the galaxy if Harbinger can command them. All Sovereign has to do is get them to put him on the Phone with Harby via the General and be all "hey the Citadel beacon broke thought you guys might wanna wake up". And why the hell would the Reapers have a spare army lying around and not have it be at the disposal of the Reaper left to watch? Why would Sovereign have to waste several centuries over the time limit for the start of a harvesting getting Saren and the geth when the Collectors were just twiddling their thumbs?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The main story is more or less irrelevant however.
      If they weren't retarded they would have made ME2's story about finding the plans to the Crucible so they didn't have to do as much of an insulting Deus ex machina "It's cool, we just happened to find the one thing that can kill the reapers lying around in a dusty closet, just as they are about to genocide us" asspull. At least then it would have felt a bit less contrived.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since you're all already talking about it, what's the best class (in terms of gameplay) to experience ME1?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Adept is the most fun biotics are in the trilogy. Pulling then Pushing them outside the level boundaries never gets old.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate ME2 so goddamn much.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love ME2 so goddamn much.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all these people seething over ME2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ME2 enjoyer is also a Reddit moron.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i always cared more about mass effect's background lore and sidecontent than the main plot itself tbh

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MaleShep x Kaidan OTP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder if you romance Liara, Miranda or Jack Kaidan is never turned into a homo and he remains a straight bro

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good for you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I make sure of that by sacrificing him with a nuke every time. Better die a hero...
        During ME3 release there was general consensus on Ganker that Ashley is a chud because how terrible she looked, so I had Kaidan as survivor. Romance totally blindsided me - paragon Shep picks option "I care about you" or something, and suddenly its full on gay romance. I kicked restart PC button in a panic not to autosave

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But Ashley is a drunken cunt that acts nothing like she did in 1 and can wish the Reapers to win.

          ?t=1669

          ?t=84

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Watching it today seems obvious where it was going and not quite as I remembered. I guess back then I was hoping for Garus style bromance and just didn't expect at all full gay.

            I don't like Ashley either, but I rather Kaidan died hero. I can tolerate new pilot Cortez just fine, but I hate rewriting of old characters for political agenda

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reminder if you romance Ashley in 3 Kaidan remains in the grave

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with Mass Effect 1+1 is that it doesn't understand the relationship between build-up and pay-off.
    ME1 gets it. Feros is a great example, the player gets to speak with the oddly behaved colonists of Zhu's Hope (build-up), learn more about the Thorian in the Exo-Geni building (build-up), and then witness the Thorian and its terrifying powers in-person (pay-off). Take then Sovereign reveal: he's introduced as a spaceship on Eden Prime (build-up), described as having a corrupting influence on Saren in the finales of Feros and Noveria (build-up), then revealed to be a literal Reaper on Virmire (pay-off).
    ME3 doesn't try to set up mindblowing revelations but instead takes every previous action, every previous innocent conversation with the likes of Wrex or Mordin or Legion as build-up and then allows you to help them achieve their dreams or betray them and stab them in the back as pay-off. Arguably weaker, but it still works.
    ME2 doesn't understand this important relationship at all. The two biggest reveals in the narrative are the identity of the Collectors and the Human Reaper reveal. Neither reveal is foreshadowed in a meaningful way. There's no "ooooh that explains X, Y, and Z" moment. When EDI reveals that Collectors are actually Protheans, it feels like a trivia fact. When she reveals the Collectors have been using human goo to build space Cthulus that look like HUMAN SKELETONS, you're just left scratching your head.

    ME2 is a good DLC for character introductions with a pants-on-head retarded everything else. Shepard ends ME1 saying he's going to find a way to stop the Reapers yet we barely start doing that two games later

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on the "Control and Synthesis are indoctrination" theory?

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you play a game like Mass Effect or Cyberpunk and choose the female player character you are a wannabe chud and must rope immediately.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hey lads, i have never played any of the Mass Effect games but I have recently been interested in the universe and all of that
    Should i buy them now that they are on sale on Steam?
    cheers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pirate

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just pirate them. It's not like Bioware and EA deserves your money.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look up if there's any mods to fix the way LE looks like.
      Like 90% of remasters the Legendary Edition manages to look worse than the originals

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        good god thats disgusting

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You haven't even seen the half of it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            C3Anderson is still working on a lighting mod to fix that
            also I stopped playing maleshep when I realized Garrus was a 7 foot tall DinoCat tech-genius Jon Snow type.
            Garrus is the main character, femshep is a turian whore

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People who want to fuck Garrus have something seriously wrong with their brains. He's one of gamings best bros, it's like wanting to fuck yoru literal brother.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People who want to fuck Garrus have something seriously wrong with their brains
                i mean, they're already playing femshep to start with

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Implying I want to fuck Garrus
                That's gay anon. However I don't care much for Shepherd's gender and I do want my bro to get some pussy so nothing wrong with giving him a FemShep.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People who want to fuck Garrus have something seriously wrong with their brains
                This. Any normal person wants to get fucked by Garrus.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He's one of gamings best bros
                he's the main protagonist in secret. Shepard is a vehicle for the story that Garrus is going through the heroes journey in.
                Look at ME1, he's in all the promo art, he's the squadmate who talks back to Shepard in the E3 trailers. Most believe Shepard is Kirk and Garrus his Spock, but Shepard is really Pike, Garrus is Kirk.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's Garrus' story bro Shepard is just a Master-Chief esque body for the player

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not that I want to fuck Garrus. It's that Garrus is literally me and so I want him to fuck the sexy redhead

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gets to fuck Tali and Shep
                How does Garrus do it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                MaleShep gets to fuck Shaira, Liara, Tali and Jack. He still wins.
                FemShep gets Shaira, Liara, Kelly, Samantha and Aria. So she's second.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People who want to fuck Tali have something seriously wrong with their brains. She's one of gamings best buddies, it's like wanting to fuck yoru literal sister.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've never heard anyone call Tali a buddy/bro. Just cute, fuckable and space gypsie.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              For some reason 2 was hit the hardest, that one not only has terrible lighting changes but also brand new bugs

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Reminder that this also happened

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This change was fairly innocent, in case anyone thought it was a deliberate edit to her face and look.

                They backported several assets from ME3 into ME1 and ME2 for the remaster, including the hair-presets. NPCs that aren't hand-crafted use preset sliders, including Kelly Chambers, but because the hair was backported, and some other things like skin complexion types and eyeliner, and morph features, this is actually an ME3 version of Kelly but in ME2. With the lighting changes to the engine the light sources don't come from the same places on the ship anymore. That's also why Dr. Chakwas is completely dimmed and has almost demonic eyes in ME1 now, in her talking spot in the med-bay.

                If you enter photo-mode and look at Kelly from the side, she actually looks a lot like she used to. It's just the textures and her hairdo that now come from ME3 as a template, and that changes her aesthetic completely.

                TL;DR: Nobody decided she should look different, but the trannies at BioWare who designed the game are bad at their jobs, so they changed a bunch of core features in the previous games without realizing its impact.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Garrus is the main character, femshep is a turian whore
              kind of based

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    please ignore the vocal femshep fans. They are trannies, women, and coomers. Their opinion is of no matter.

    femshep was good, voice acting was good, but what's the point of being a woman in space?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My next playtrough is probably gonna be a Femshep. But that's because I've played through the games like 7 times and I want some variety.

      That and I'm probably gonna install a few coomer mods. If there have been any released for Legendary that is.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    btw if you make a custom Shepard, male or female, you are a fool.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I choose FemShep because she can fuck Liara with her futa cock.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I finished trilogy half a hour ago. I can conclude that ending is pretty good now with all DLCs. High war asset destruction ending is solid conclusion that has most major questions answered and concluded. I use head-cannon to pretend control and synthesis endings aren't a thing, but a test for TIM tier delusion of control, or Saren tier delusion of synthesis indoctrination. You lose and colorful explosion is a delusion. If you actually destroy reapers you do your fucking job and win.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      exactly. Saren and the Illusive Man were both indoctrinated. Saren wanted synthesis, the Illusive Man wanted control. Destroy is the only option that they never wanted, and if you pick anything else, then the Reapers fucked your brain. Yeah, Destroy has its downsides, but it is still the only reasonable option.

      However...if you consider the main goal of the Reapers, as in preventing the destruction of the universe due to overuse of fast travel drives which will eventually unwind the universe if not kept in check...it may not actually be a victory, in the long term.

      So why the fuck would Jack be affected by Shepard being an icon when she was frozen in the Terminus Systems when he did his thing?

      She wouldn't care about that anyway. She latched onto Shepard because he was strong and he offered her a place where she belonged, which is something she never had. Cerberus is ruthless and efficient, the ends justify the means, etc. It's completely reasonable to say they purposely used Shepard to use Jack.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >She latched onto Shepard because he offered her a place where she belonged
        >five seconds after meeting her
        And here is where we end our conversation before I lose any more braincells

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its OK to be wrong

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Should've done that from the beginning, anyone that defends Cerberus or the human Reaper shouldn't be taken seriously to begin with

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >defending Cerberus is wrong
            anti-human fucking bigot. It's over for you. Cerberus is the only group prioritizing human interests. Every other alien race has groups that do the same, in fact not even groups, they just all do it naturally. Why shouldn't humans be allowed to prioritize their own interests? I bet you masturbate to Tali.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              (You)
              Cerberus the writing, not Cerberus the faction god can you stop being a blind baiter for three seconds

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Glad you liked it. Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings, I bet most that play the games today and do are simply thinking about it harder than they'd normally do if they didn't know the endings have had a decade of controversies online. Leviathan and Extended Cut both help immensely.
      The real, often unspoken reason why the endings stang so much for people that played the game in 2012 was because they had to wait between games. Nowadays you finish 2 and jump straight to 3, no thinking in-between; back then you had the biggest fans talking in forums daily for years between releases, coming up with theories on how the endings would totally keep all this different shit in mind and how it'll be the Suicide Mission 4.0 and how the devs totally thought the story through and they came up with an explanation for the robot squids back in ME1, and they totally weren't just winging it with each game because they had no fucking clue about what they were doing.
      Without the pre-release hype, without the in-between games theory crafting, and with the complete package with DLCs, for the type of games Shepard's trilogy are as a whole (not what they *could've* been, not what ME1 teased future games could feel like both mechanically and narratively, which is its own can of worms as already shown ITT), the endings are honestly not that bad. There's far worse endings in tons of vidya but the 2012 stigma will never disappear.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let's not forget Hudson stating the endings would be diverse and they're would be no ABC type endings.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Spore is a good game if you don't get autistic about expectations and just appreciate it for what it is. This negative outlook of yours will not do you many favors.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Spore

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Retard,

              you can spend your life searching for imperfections and things to complain about, if you want. It will not benefit you or anyone else. Quite the opposite. Very childish IMO, always bitching that the world doesn't do what you want.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice projection.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                strong argument

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Low effort

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                keep complaining that they didn't write in your fanfic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More projection
                Low effort, as usual.
                Yawn

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you can spend your life searching for imperfections and things to complain about, if you want.
                >trying to be a wise sage about world-renowned failures like Spore
                No point in being a hands-up "hey bro, relax" Rogan type when Spore actually is a shit game

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Retard,

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Someone experiencing the trilogy for the first time with all DLCs doesn't have much reason to complain about the endings
        They're bad endings.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was some fallout fanfic Meer did voice work for and he sounds amazing in the trailer

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    xD

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want squad based Spectre investigations with tight gameplay and hub worlds, I don't need a save-the-galaxy plot. To me, it was why shadow broker dlc and most of the missions in ME3 were enjoyable (even if some of the plot was shit), I actually felt like a pro taking on tasks others couldn't handle but also not tasks that were better suited for a full army.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about the brown ending?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Last time I posted his spoilered I got a three day

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss the Tali unmask memes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just made Shepard Asian/Latina.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You made a mistake.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thread is dying. Post your favourite meme before we hit page 10.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fitting. Seeing as how the next title is shaping up to be a franchise and studio suicide.

      https://twitter.com/GambleMike/status/1585676898361028608

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't go on Twitter anymore. screenshot or die.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Goddammit, I already knew it was gonna be shit because its modern bioware but I just lost the little hope I didn't even know I had

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anyone in their right mind wants to forget Andromeda happened and for the new game to be a simple low stakes return to form
        >what BioWare takes from that is that they should make the new game a sequel to both the OT and Andromeda feat. the Archon 2.0
        EA won't close the studio soon enough

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          EA might have forced them to release unfinished games but Bioware struck the last blow themselves. The only thing they had to do was to write a proper ending, no fucking slideshow, if Shepard lives we get to see him reunite with his crew and live a comfy life with his LI kind of like they did it in the citadel dlc, then fucking shelve the trilogy because it's over and there's nothing else to tell through Shepard. But Andromeda was so shit so they're gonna bait people with nostalgia, these teens that played Mass Effect are gonna be in their 30s and are gonna preorder the game like retards before we even get to see it, then EA will shut down BioWare for good after the inevitable backlash. None of their recent games went well, not andromeda not anthem not dragon age so this is what I'm expecting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if shepard still lived then they would be forced to include him in future games by marketers and executives

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if the matriarch liara theory is true they're gonna kill most of the side characters anyway except the writers' favorite blue woman and shepard, so why couldn't they have do it with this ending too?
              Also, I forgot to mention that by proper ending I mean one where the crucible isn't a deus ex machina, where my choices from the 3 previous games actually affect the ending and I don't have to do what the stupid child says but it all happens naturally, where I can see my war assets fighting alongside me in the final battle like asari commandos, rachni, STG, elcor and others

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can imagine it. You don't need to see it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can physically see my squadmates getting killed or not in the suicide mission for example based on my ship upgrades, loyalty, whoever I send in which location lol, fanfics can be whatever I and other fans want but they're not canon, they're not gonna fix the damage

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only thing they had to do was to write a proper ending, no fucking slideshow

            Just thinking about it, it's actually amazing that they managed to write 3 ending that are so similar to each other to save dev time, yet they're too different that any sequel would have to pick one as canon.
            Between having 3 very distinct endings with no way to combine them into a sequel story, or 1 set ending (maybe 2 if you fail to build a good army) with little variety but room for continuations to the story, they somehow managed to combine the worst of both options.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >EA might have forced them to release rushed unfinished games but Bioware released rushed unfinished games
            Yes anon, we know. The ME3 that was leaked didn't release because of time constraints, not because of artistic decisions
            >"ME3 was originally announced to release in the holiday season of 2011. By March 2011, the game production was behind schedule and the leads were convinced they couldn't have it ready for that release. Ultimately, Bioware's General Manager Aaron Flynn got the release pushed back to March 2012, through a direct phone call with the head of EA's games label. Even with that, production was still behind schedule and a significant amount of content was cut from the game."
            Javik was cut before they were granted the extension to the deadline, moving the game to 2012 allowed them to put him back but by then they had rewritten the plot already so he was DLC. Originally the Citadel coup happened after Thessia: Kai Leng kidnapped Javik, Cerberus would learn from him that the Citadel was the Catalyst, and *then* would they have a reason to attack. In the original coup you'd have Kasumi and Thane as your squadmates, Omega's liberation wasn't DLC, so on and so forth. All of these changes had to do with EA being gnomish assholes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              sheploo looks like a fag

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Takes one to know one. Buttboy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You must be deeply intimate with the Vanderfag then, cock smoker

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >retards actually believe galaxies would clash into each other in 4-5 billion years
        They seriously better not go there with ME4, that is next level kinds of bullshit that makes the endings of ME3 look like Shakespeare

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't complain about how bad ME3 is, when ME4 makes it looks like War and Peace

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >balls touching

        gay

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DA2
        >DA:I
        >ME:A
        >Anthem
        >"n-next time they'll do it right for sure!"
        Whoever gets burned with Dragon Age Deadname and ME4 will deserve it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reapers being portrayed as pretentious will always be funny to me for whatever reason

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      Anonymous
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  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most importantly only trannies picked female Shepard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a woman.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And that's a mommy.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bit too stiffed in the first game
    I played 2 stiffed the whole time 😉

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hale is miles better than Meer in the 1st game, which is the only one worth playing.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HEY
    EVERYONE
    THIS STORE DISCRIMINATES AGAINST THE POOR

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Jack a good romance? I was going to go for Tali, but Jack is really tempting me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's my favorite romance by far

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jack is alright but Tali honestly has the most wholesome moments in the series. Her final goodbye is gut wrenching

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is Jack a good romance? I was going to go for Tali, but Jack is really tempting me.

        >Tali romance
        Never did it solely as not to cock block Garus. You guys have no heart

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's fine Shepard helped him get some pussy in the Citadel DLC

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Garrus
          Their "romance" is basically a 5 second easter egg that makes no sense.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dr. Michel would be interested in him so it's not like he's completely locked out. And I don't know it just doesn't make sense to me that they'd get together, they have that feeling of "maybe some sex but then they would stay friends"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But Tali and Garrus are the only good options. Is my Shepherd just supposed to stay a virgin?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bro Garrus has almost as many LIs as Shepard himself, the fuck you want for me to cuck myself to help him from drowning in less pussy?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jack is easily one of the best "tragic past, tough façade but soft heart" tropes done in gaming. Plus she pairs a Sole Survivor Shepard fairly well given their past with Cerberus. Also Jack's face model (Candice Neil) is genuinely the prettiest face in the game, prettier than Yvonne's Miranda. Don't know how they fucked up that one given she's the poster girl.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish someone would make a mod to replace her ME2 face with the god tier ME3 one.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jack is easily one of the best "tragic past, tough façade but soft heart" tropes done in gaming.
        this, I was generally annoyed with her in ME2 but really liked seeing her show up again in 3. Things work out alright for her.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Things work out alright for her.
          But I shot her to death.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go for it my dude. Tali is the litlle sis of the crew, let your bro Garrus have her.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tali is the litlle sis of the crew
        40yo redditsoichud talk.
        have a nice day.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >40yo redditsoichud talk.
          You have no idea who you're talking to. Get lost fag, I only spoke facts.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it annoys me so fucking much how all the new ME2 characters you recruit just fuck offs and does their own thing in ME3
        what was the fucking point Bioware

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >what was the fucking point
          The point was "oh shit instead of keeping it in its pants and waiting for the last game 2 blew its load early with the Suicide Mission so now we need to account for 12 different people being either dead or alive and give them all content and create new content to replace them if needed plus all the other shit plus the game needs to come out in a year and a half before EA circumcises us""

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Grissom Academy, Omega and some other missions were going to be larger and include some past squadmates, like how Edi, Tali, Garrus and Liara naturally integrate with some story missions.
          Some other squadmates were going to be doing their own thing, Zaeed for Cerberus, Virmire survivor for the Spectres, etc.
          Thane and Kasumi were supossed to be your squadmates during the citadel coup and maybe help you in a Hanar homeworld related mission.
          Hell, i remember reading Kepral syndrome was going to be cured (Thane mentions a cure in development in ME2) back in 2015.
          All of that got cut by time constrains, Bioware higher ups (Casey Hudson specially) didn't have balls and couldn't say to EA "Give us till Holidays 2012 or you are fucked"

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know it's borderline fan fiction but I really wanted Andromeda to dig deeper with the whole siblings' thing. Just the potential of "While you're doing one thing, your sibling is doing another" and it eventually unfolds into characters doing their own loyalty quests off the screen and the ending is dependent on what you did vs your sibling is cool.
    Like "Oh hey sis, while you were collecting minerals or doing missions, I was just doing a romance/loyalty mission with one of your benchwarmers"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sheploo and Fem Shep are siblings
      If Mass Effect ever gets an animated/live action adaptation that's how I'd want them to handle which Shepard should be made the MC, would be even better if Sheploo was Paragon and Fem Shep was Renegade

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funnily enough that was originally kind of an idea they had for ME3. The Virmire Survivor would've built up their own team of squadmates and rivaled you throughout the game until Thessia

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds cool and makes sense, no wonder they didn't do it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Time + someone wanted to shove their oc in.

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is it just me or does anyone else think of Male and Female Shepard as two seperate characters?

    like when someone says "Shepard", I think of default male shepard, female shepard does not cross my mind once

    but when someone says "Femshep", I instantly know they're talking about Female shepard

    its like Shepard, and Femshep are two different characters despite being the exact same

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fanbase says that Paragon Male Shepherd and Renegade FemShep are borderline canon as can get, so you're not wrong

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but when someone says "Femshep", I instantly know they're talking about Female shepard
      of course it does, what the fuck else would femshep mean

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I completed all three games and didn't know you could make a female Shepard until Ganker told me about it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Barely anyone specifies MaleShep or Sheploo, when people say 'Shepard' everyone thinks of cover dude and when people say 'FemShep' everyone thinks of 3's default redhead

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Female Shepard is best but only if you play her as an incompetent bimbo.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking of doing a file where she has no charisma or intimidate. Can't pick any blue/red dialogue options, and in 2&3 can't use any interrupts. Maybe try to make the worst outcomes for everything.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, do stuff like kill the Rachni queen in ME1, but then let the new one live in ME3. Kill Wrex because he drew a gun on you, but then cure the Genophage.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I kind of want to do a no Wrex run just to see how ME2 and 3 pans out, and try to save Mordin.

          But I just can't bring myself to shoot that lovable toad.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Keeping Wrex alive in 1 is better for "dark timeline" runs because he finds out about the genophage sabotage which leads to drama and having to kill Mordin. Wreav is a retard so you keep krogan support for Earth.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Mass Effect series really is unrepeatable and it's sad.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only played as FemShep in my second playthrough because I wanted to see what the romance with best bro Garrus was like.
    And after playing through Citadel it is now my head anon that Garrus spends his post ending days plowing Tali and Shepherd in nonstop threesomes.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ass erect = shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      okay 2000s Corey, that's enough outta you

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only problem with FemShep is how hard they fucked up her customization options and the ability to carry over your character into 3, I still don't understand what the fuck was the deal with that shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did any of that get fixed in the Legendary edition?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They couldn't even be arsed to add in the multiplayer from base 3 into LE, anon. What do you think?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know the story behind that one.

      Around a 2/3 through ME3's development some programmers argued that they could make enhancement to the face models whilist downing their poly counts, but it was gonna "aesthetically look 1:1 as before!" But then they did that, and all the faces went crazy, and they had to unfuck it in short time.

      Therefore, various slider features were lost in translation and the ones that were there don't really look the same, cuz I suppose artists were involved anyway, and wanted their vision for default faces.

      But basically, it was the programmers' fault *shrug*.

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is there a mod to fix all the fuck ups with the LE?

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ladyhawke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Male Hawke

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true, too bad DA2 sucks massive shit

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FemShep is for dyking straight bitches then getting them killed later on

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's still strange to me jack only gets with male shep

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like it. She might've fooled around and accepted either gender for sex but she only sees herself on a serious relationship with a man that can accept her as she is. It's cute, even if we have to allegedly thank Fox News of all people for it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      miss me with that gay shit

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it weird that I find Samantha really cute?
    I kinda want to try to les-romance her but I can't see how it can compare to Liara who's basically the main LI.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She completely outclasses Liara
      The so-called Shadow Broker gets trounced by lesbo toothbrush tits

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She gives you better confidential intel than the confidential intel broker. Plus she probably has a trimmed bush down there.

        I suppose. But it's hard to play through two games romancing Liara and then just say "nope" in the third one.

        That said, it's a shame they ruined her. and turned her into some generic "muh strong independent womyn don't need no man!". Fuck ME1 Liara is the perfect waifu. Even more so than Tali.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She gives you better confidential intel than the confidential intel broker. Plus she probably has a trimmed bush down there.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like her a lot as a man, but a crusade went against the modders that wanted to make a MShep Romance mod, despite how everyone is making gay-conversation mods for the straight characters.

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Be honest with me bros, is ME4 going to be a fluke and be good or will it kill off ME once and for all? Tell me what you think...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It will be painfully average, full of callbacks and possibly reused enemy factions that you thought was over but wasnt and some robot enemy faction that will be a chore to play against (Geth confirmed)
      Basically it will be like Halo 4, Gears 4 and The Force Awakens.
      The sequel to that sequel will make it or break it (most likely break it)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would be so easy to make a good Mass Effect 4 it's not even funny. Bioware will miss the forest for the trees and will find some way to shoehorn Liara, Shepard, the Reapers and Andromeda + a new donutsteel big world-ending evil like to fight against into the game

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would require actual effort to make ME4 good and modern game developers are not about any of that.

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason to play female Shepard is Garrus.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *Lesbian action

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play maleshep to romance my wife Tali

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >VA explicitly refused her character to be gay
      My pure and cute space gipsy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reported to the council.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BASED!
      I wanted to romance Tali since ME1, i actually thought you could, i had to romance Liara and it was good, so good that i almost forgot about Tali, lets be honest, ME1 Liara doesn't suck.
      But the moment i saw ME2 Tali and Liara i knew i had to chose Tali, it wasn't a contest, ME2 Liara SUCKS.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not one for waifufagging but some of her dialogue in 2 and 3 when romanced makes my heart melt. She's too adorable

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fitting. Seeing as how the next title is shaping up to be a franchise and studio suicide.

      https://twitter.com/GambleMike/status/1585676898361028608

      >retards actually believe galaxies would clash into each other in 4-5 billion years
      They seriously better not go there with ME4, that is next level kinds of bullshit that makes the endings of ME3 look like Shakespeare

      This just means the setting will be moved to Andromeda because the Milky Way is devastated by the war with the Reapers
      They are not going to make 2 galaxies a setting. It might have references to Andromeda but I doubt it would be more tha that. The teaser established the direct link to ME3

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I play maleshep to romance my wife Tali

        Wrong quote

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know. Gamble has been VERY and INCREASINGLY vocal about "bridging" the two galaxies and merging their stories together. Nobody wants this. And I don't understand how every time something about Shepard and co. becomes hinted, like that quote with the lithograph, people get excited again, and every time they make a hint toward Andromeda, people feel like throwing up, but Mike still tries to make something out of connecting the Milky Way and Andromeda. If this is misdirection, as to the importance that Andromeda will have, or just weighing in his options, I'd rather he fucking stop. It's self-evident, at this point. DON'T DO ANYTHING ANDROMEDA RELATED! I don't know how many times we have to say this. Nobody is going to buy your game, because it includes, or gives a prominent role to Andromeda. We don't want it. We never did, and we're not going to give it a chance, no matter how much you want us to.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wish this translated to sales numbers but we both know it won't. There's no justice.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It did for Andromeda. It sold below ME2 numbers. Do you really think Andromeda 2 will do better? There simply isn't a large enough userbase for Mass Effect, after Andromeda. At least, not without going back to Shepard and co.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if bioware seriously does do that for ME4 they deserve to get shut down and ME dies for good

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Andromeda takes place centuries after ME3
          If they do have plans to connect it, it will be after a trilogy anyway. They are not going to risk it and Shepard is clearly returning

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Andromeda takes place centuries after ME3
            Which means if they're doing a sequel to both, ME4 will take place several centuries after anything we even remotely care about and be disconnected narratively and technologically from the Milky Way we know and care about. Fuck that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not so fast

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a ship that resembles the Normandy
                In what universe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. I simply don't think they are going to return to Shepard and co, at this point and I have no use waiting another 6 years, to get a centuries after ME3 sequel, that bridges the Milky Way and Andromeda. Just don't fucking do it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If anything from shepard's gang shows up it'll be mentions of the effects they had on their race as a legacy thing.
                Liara and Grunt are the only ones who could possibly still be alive

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not even worth watching the playthrough on twitch/youtube. Why would I want that? Why would I be content with that?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the new Normandy

                Exactly. I simply don't think they are going to return to Shepard and co, at this point and I have no use waiting another 6 years, to get a centuries after ME3 sequel, that bridges the Milky Way and Andromeda. Just don't fucking do it.

                If anything from shepard's gang shows up it'll be mentions of the effects they had on their race as a legacy thing.
                Liara and Grunt are the only ones who could possibly still be alive

                >They brought Liara back but not Shepard
                Nonsense, way to piss off thw fanbase

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why not? They brought back Leliana and Morrigan in Inquisition, without the Warden. Why wouldn't they bring Liara back, without Shepard?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck the reddit fanbase, I don't want Shepard back. I don't want Liara back. I don't want any I CLAPPED face back, no one liked Garrus or Wrex in 2007 because they were Garrus or Wrex. They were liked because they were interesting and well written, even if new characters. So just make new characters, good writing. Make a low stakes plot exploring a post-Reaper War galaxy, doing your thing; building up your crew, nothing reality shattering. Move forwards and forget about Andromeda for fuck's sake

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Move on to what? Who is going to write these elusive good characters? Who are they going to hire to do it? Who even wants to work for Bioware, in order to do it? We've had several articles about how Bioware has been downsized, because nobody wants to work there. And it's something I've been saying in the /meg/s since at least 2015, before Schreier ever wrote any articles. At best, you're getting ME3 level shit, but without a cast to carry it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Move on to what?
                To literally anything but pic related. If modern Bioware is incapable of writing all the more reason to shit on brand new stuff instead of further destroying what came before

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd argue that making a mediocre Mass Effect, that's just competent enough, and gets carried by the returning cast, would be the best thing that could happen to Bioware. It will earn them brownie points with the community, it will sell well, and it will put the studio and the franchise back on the map. It will give them growth. With growth will come talent, that has been bleeding out of Edmonton for over a decade now, and the prospect that they can stand on their own, without the crutch of nostalgia, alone, carrying them. Then you can make whatever Mass Effect you want.

                >they haven't written a good new character since 2012
                ftfy*

                Why? Did you like anyone in DA2, or ToR?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ME3 came out in 2012. Though now that you mentioned it SWTOR had some characters that I remember being good, like Darth Jadus

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ME3 came out in 2012.
                I am aware. I just don't believe you are referring to it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's okay, I won't hold it against you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jadus and Malgus had no right being in that game with how based they were

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact Jadus' storyline was just completely abandoned is a crime against humanity.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Marr mogs them both

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TOR had best girl

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't stand playing ToR. I've been playing LotRO, it's 10 times the game ToR is.

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play maleshep to romance Liara, Miranda, bang Jack, bang Liara in the shadowbroker DLC, and then romance Ashley in 3

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Space boy, human boy summer

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good evening friends, I hate Asari.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same, culterbrother, same

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >five minutes in Thessia and Javik deconstructs dozens of millennia of religion beliefs
      Someone stop him, he's too powerful

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every time I replay Mass Effect trilogy I try to do the Liara romance and then can't bear to actually go through with it. It's so wierd because Liara should hit so many of my boxes (intellectual, nice and caring, force of will, cute caster girl) but I get into actual dialogues with her and... I get so bored.

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just came to say that it goes like this

    Best game: ME2
    Most substantial game: ME1
    Lmao worst game: ME3 (besides combat)

    The absurdist amount of hype ME3 gets nowadays is disgusting. Everything about that game is wrong, and if it wasn't part of the trilogy it would be a mediocre game at best, cuz the shooting is not THAT good.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand anon. ME3 is a great game, actually, but it's only shit because it had no alternative, because ME2 took the franchise a different direction, and instead of doing something with that, Bioware decided to do a whole lot of things they didn't need to do, in order to make the worst game in the series, with some of the worst encounter and level design in the series. But they liked the pew-pew, so that makes it best.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand anon. ME3 is a great game, actually, but it's only shit because it had no alternative, because ME2 took the franchise a different direction, and instead of doing something with that, Bioware decided to do a whole lot of things they didn't need to do, in order to make the worst game in the series, with some of the worst encounter and level design in the series. But they liked the pew-pew, so that makes it best.

      Why argue with yourselves something that was settled 7 hours ago. It's like you're going out of your way to seethe about people not liking 2 lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can you blame them when 2 has been overhyped for a decade?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can you blame them when 2 has been overhyped for a decade?

        Why are you so butthurt about it? Go back to jerking it off, over the game that killed the franchise, like you were doing, 10 minutes ago.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They seethed about my post and I was mostly positive about the game. They're just trolls trying to get easy (You)s, best to ignore them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand anon. ME3 is a great game, actually, but it's only shit because it had no alternative, because ME2 took the franchise a different direction, and instead of doing something with that, Bioware decided to do a whole lot of things they didn't need to do, in order to make the worst game in the series, with some of the worst encounter and level design in the series. But they liked the pew-pew, so that makes it best.

      The only thing I'll actually defend about ME3 is it's multiplayer because it's seriously great and plays like an evolved killing floor with lots of different playstyles and different enemy types, lots of different weapons to use to help make builds be even more unique and the gameplay works really well as a team and solo.
      Turian Havoc chad here and I WILL carry you on platinum.

      Dialogue on the left gives more info, dialogue on the right leads to the end of conversations.
      Talk to all squadmates and Joker on the ship between story missions. More conversations open up as you progress.
      Don't use the preset characters, manually make your Shepard. Using the preset face is fine, but picking background and class is what you want to do.
      Explore places. There's so much to do on the Citadel, even the first time you go.
      Codex gives a shit ton of lore. Primary entries are the bigger more relevant ones, and is read to you. Secondary is interesting but not really required to understand stuff, and it's only text, no voiced.

      >tfw the codex becomes less and less detailed in both ME2 and 3
      Losing Drew Karpyshyn had such an obvious effect even in things like that. I loved going through the detailed codex in ME1

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just bought the legendary edition and about to play this series for the first time. Anything I should know?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Opening locked containers requires someone with the Decryption skill be in your party
      Make sure to level up either Charm or Intimidate if you want to win arguments as a good guy/bad guy respectively
      Talk with your crew often

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dialogue on the left gives more info, dialogue on the right leads to the end of conversations.
      Talk to all squadmates and Joker on the ship between story missions. More conversations open up as you progress.
      Don't use the preset characters, manually make your Shepard. Using the preset face is fine, but picking background and class is what you want to do.
      Explore places. There's so much to do on the Citadel, even the first time you go.
      Codex gives a shit ton of lore. Primary entries are the bigger more relevant ones, and is read to you. Secondary is interesting but not really required to understand stuff, and it's only text, no voiced.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I should go

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THIS PISTOL DOESN'T HAVE A THERMAL CLIP

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The DLC weapons are fun to use mechanically but they are so fucking broken overpowered in these games.

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never played Mass Effect before, should I download the first game or Mass Effect Legendary edition that has all three?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends, do you mind having to tinker a bit before playing? Objectively speaking the original games modded are the ultimate experience, but if you can't be bothered then you could simply play the Legendary Edition and call it a day

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      originals are better and there's mods to make everything look more pretty if you want nicer graphics

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Legendary Edition is cheaper than getting the originals + all DLC, as dumb as that sounds.
      If you're willing to spend extra cash on the originals, I'd suggest doing it because LE genuinely does have some major bugs not found in the originals, but if you want to be cost effective go with LE.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Legendary Edition is cheaper than getting the originals + all DLC
        Really?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The fuck. I just fucking bought LE a few months ago because I didn't want to buy DLC for the original games.
          God fucking damn it EA fucking piece of shit fuck that's actually an objectively and uncharacteristically good move on EA's part, but fuck I wasted money on buying LE.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >paying at all

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >LE genuinely does have some major bugs

        i played it for 50 hours what major bus does it have, if any??

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Off the top of my head? Shep getting stuck facing one direction in ME 1 during combat, Shep's face getting completely fucked up during some scenes in 3, minor graphical issues spread throughout all the games.
          Go look up more yourself if you're curious, I'm sure there are videos showcasing some of the worst shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >in me1, if you move the camera too much, your character will be locked sideways until you leave the area or exit the game
          >throughout the trilogy, many audio lines will either not play or else play too quietly
          I also experienced a bug with ME3 quests failing to load, if I was taking a new squadmate and changed their weapon loadout on the quest launch menu

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The musical crescendo building up to Shepard breathing at the end of ME3 is delayed and it fucks up the mood entirely

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes you should

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know what would be great? A low stakes, more character driven ME story. Instead of saving the universe or whatever you're just some bounty hunter collecting bounties, with an overarching plot being a more personal struggle with some asshole that wants you dead.
    Basically what I'm saying is that I want Cowboy Bebop, ME Edition.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think it will draw enough people in, after Andromeda. It isn't the return that Mass Effect needs. It would be great, if it was a game made by another studio, and not a mainline Mass Effect game. And especially not a game that I would have to wait until 2028 to get.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Andromeda was flawed to begin with because no one gave a shit about that galaxy. Running away from the Milky Way was cowardly, and here we are 7 years after Andromeda's reveal going back to the Milky Way doing what should've been done to begin with.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think we are.

          Even then, it takes us at least 600 years after the events of ME3 to do ... whatever. That's our current prospect.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I disagree, at least with the part about it not being enough of a draw. I think the appeal of ME has always been the characters, that's why so many people cite 2 as the best game despite its flaws, and why some people are even willing to defend parts of 3.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Again

          Move on to what? Who is going to write these elusive good characters? Who are they going to hire to do it? Who even wants to work for Bioware, in order to do it? We've had several articles about how Bioware has been downsized, because nobody wants to work there. And it's something I've been saying in the /meg/s since at least 2015, before Schreier ever wrote any articles. At best, you're getting ME3 level shit, but without a cast to carry it.

          They haven't written a good new character, since 2010. It's been 12 years and 6 games. If there was going to be another good new character, we would have gotten it. There's no one coming.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they haven't written a good new character since 2012
            ftfy*

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What are you even arguing about, then? Bioware is shit that hasn't changed in almost a decade, that shouldn't stop us from thinking that moving on instead of being fixated with the path would be the right step in a world where the developers behind modern ""AAA"" games weren't colossaly retarded. No one cares about modern Star Wars and Picard and their regurgitation of the old good products they're based on. Bioware have one single golden opportunity thanks to the Legendary Edition bringing in tons of new players and they're gonna squander it for some unexplainable obsession with Andromeda and Liara.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Here.

              I'd argue that making a mediocre Mass Effect, that's just competent enough, and gets carried by the returning cast, would be the best thing that could happen to Bioware. It will earn them brownie points with the community, it will sell well, and it will put the studio and the franchise back on the map. It will give them growth. With growth will come talent, that has been bleeding out of Edmonton for over a decade now, and the prospect that they can stand on their own, without the crutch of nostalgia, alone, carrying them. Then you can make whatever Mass Effect you want.

              [...]
              Why? Did you like anyone in DA2, or ToR?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See, I look at things from the point of view of something like Resident Evil 7. No one gave a shit about RE after the action clusterfuck that was 6, and 7's announcement made it seem like a cheap Outlast knock-off. Then the game came out and people liked it because it did seem to be made by a dev team that cared. Then REmake 2 happened. Then DMC V happened.
                A decade ago Capcom was seen as a shadow of its former self while nowadays it's seen as a good developer again. If there was a team that actually cared about the legacy of the IP, and about trying to make a good game that stands on its own there isn't there's no reason why they'd have to resort to cheap emotional tricks like Liara or teasing N7. It feels like Mass Effect will forever be trapped to reference their old good material over and over again to get as many shekels from whatever fanbase remains as possible.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are many tales to tell within the Mass Effect universe. But Bioware telling them, means it's automatically going to be shit. You're going to need to earn good will back. And while the action fest of RE6 was negatively received, it didn't destroy the brand of Resident Evil. Which DmC had done for DMC. Which is why we went back to Nero and Dante, and Vergil, instead of Donte. You need to see the similarities, and the patterns, and what needs to be done to revitalize the community. Making a soft reboot, or a sequel to Andromeda, will now do more damage to the franchise, than good. You'll get less sale, less interest, less engagement. And Bioware has been in a bad spiral, outside of ME as well, with Anthem and Inquisition, basically, burying their franchise, and taking the studio along with them. I can't see that Mass Effect returning in 2028, to a new cast, by this Bioware, is going to get any traction. I expect less sales than ME1, at this point. And ME1 sold 2 million copies.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what needs to be done to revitalize the community
                A good game. That's it. The Legendary Edition already revitalized Mass Effect discussion online for the last couple years. Stop clinging to the past, the Star Wars prequels are more liked than The Force Awakens and people at large were okay with the idea of a new, less experienced cast before Andromeda came out.

                It's 2AM here I'm gonna go the fuck to sleep

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A good game. That's it
                Well, this is Bioware, so that's not happening. Next option.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A good game. That's it. The Legendary Edition already revitalized Mass Effect discussion online for the last couple years
                The thing is that you are mistaking the LE as a vote of confidence, which Bioware seems to have done, as well. Yes, it “revitalized” talk. For a while. Then it died again. Ganker has been having ME threads since forever, It didn't need the LE to have them. Fuck, the Will Continue trailer “revitalized” talk, as well. It doesn't mean people will buy the next Mass Effect. Mass Effect is damaged and, in spite of how bad Andromeda was, most of that bad performance was baggage from ME3, that the franchise still carries.

                >Stop clinging to the past
                Every time someone said that, another franchise sinks. Rings of Power did it, the Star Wars sequels did it, every time someone says to stop caring about the past, it immediately tanks the franchise. Bad look.

                >the Star Wars prequels are more liked than The Force Awakens and people at large were okay with the idea of a new, less experienced cast before Andromeda came out.
                People were also excited, because Disney had signed up Luke, Han and Leia, and everyone expected them to get on the Millenium Falcon again, together. They sold the movies under false pretense, "forget the past, kill it if you have it", as Kylo Ren says, etc. etc. Star Wars might not have been in the best state after the prequels, although the related media to the prequels were doing great, from video games, to animated tv shows, but Disney wanting to kill the past, killed the franchise.

                Also, you're not getting a good game, out of Bioware. Not now. You're going to need growth for that, new talent pouring in, and Dread Wolf won't achieve that. It's been 12 years since Mass Effect 2, they haven't made a good game since. They made one partially good game mode, in the ME3MP, and it was the Andromeda studio, that actually made it. Which now doesn't exist. If they had a good game in them, they would have made it.

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    never understood the critique of meer in the first game, he's exactly how i imagined shepard would sound, like some buzzlightyear bro

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Jack likes to write edgy poetry and Legion is a gamer.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Reminder that Jack likes to write edgy poetry
      When was that?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Reminder that Jack likes to write edgy poetry
      my wife

      Jack has the most gorgeous face in the trilogy.

      agreed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are there any mods that gives her a less retarded outfit?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There used to be a mod that removes the gauze.

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of person chooses Jack as a love interest?

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always loved the way Mark Meer said "the best" in the citadel ending.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the way he says it really works as a final goodbye

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every fem human companion looks like shit
    Why?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jack has the most gorgeous face in the trilogy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, the only one that looks ok is a bald unlikable freakazoid.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cutest companion in ME history is the one whose face is never seen.
      lmao

      Jack has the most gorgeous face in the trilogy.

      is still probably the best looking human girl though, despite her tattoos.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i thought ashley looked alright in 1

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      women are unattractive obviously

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Red ending is still canon because the other three endings are straight retarded and it's still the only ending where shepard gets five seconds of extra cutscene showing him take a breath

  84. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The push for female shepard is so weird... pure journo desperation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That said, I like femshep. She's cute, and her voice acting is arguably better.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That said, I like femshep. She's cute
        Yyyyyyyeah.
        Right.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Meanwhile, Miri
          I can conceptualize what it would feel like to stroke her cheek. The texture of her complexion, her warmth.
          Kill me, bros.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That said, I like femshep. She's cute, and her voice acting is arguably better.

      Keep coping, chud

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention, ME3 sold 3x the amount of copies the LE did. And since the majority of gamers are normie males, it makes sense that less male gamers would be playing the LE. But to have shrunk only a 14%, in comparison, is abysmal. On top of a decade of pro women narrative. Maybe in another 10, we'll get a remake, that they will lose again.
        FemShep trannies are just hilarious.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, femsheptrannies will keep seething for another 10 years, maybe by that time they'll achieve 60/40, KEK, that if they keep getting pushed by Snoystation and Xbawks, maybe with the help of the Amazon series (if it gets made).
          LMAO.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Guess that means that Liara is unquestionably the correct romance too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not romance, that's just who was used the most in ME3.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Squad member =/= romance.

            If it were romance, the numbers would be skewed even more in Liara's favor.
            Your a fool if you don't think blussy is the most basic taste (just like male shep).

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Reddit?
              >Liara (homo) 456
              Reddit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You really want to keep going with this?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I believe this a lot more. I think this is a lot more representative, than reddit.
                I don't disagree that Liara is most popular, but that other graph

                [...]
                If it were romance, the numbers would be skewed even more in Liara's favor.
                Your a fool if you don't think blussy is the most basic taste (just like male shep).

                is definitely skewed, and fucked. On reddit, you can't even go and say that Andromeda was a piece of shit. That's how bad it's got.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                On Reddit you say you like Tali and they all come up with "Le little sister" shit, sometimes the discussion isn't even about Tali and they still bring it up like a broken record.
                Most of them roasties, trannies or boomer looners that started playing when they were 30yo.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Liara has the benefit of being bisexual. An option for both male and female Shepard. I am really surprised to see Kelly and Ashley that high, and Jack that low, though. Although, I think Jack has gained fans, while Kelly has lost. The ME3 backported model treatment probably played into that.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kelly is probably high up because of how easy she is. You could be a player who rushes through the game without doing anything optional or even walk around your ship between quests and still be only ever a single step away from Kelly.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True. And Jack filters out a lot of people with the loyalty check.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon is a gay who thought a Reddot pie chart would change our opinion.
                I have something for him.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Jacob 10 (0%)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I refuse to believe Tali is that low

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There was a fairly large chance to miss her as a squad mate iirc and you got her very late in the game.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Squad member =/= romance.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, actually, i only use or respect statistics when they favor me, so if i say Tali is the canon option and Broshep should have a big ass statue in the biggest city of Rannoch, then thats the canon Bioware should follow.

          That's not romance, that's just who was used the most in ME3.

          Squad member =/= romance.

          This.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i only use or respect statistics when they favor me, so if i say Tali is the canon option and Broshep should have a big ass statue in the biggest city of Rannoch, then thats the canon Bioware should follow.
            Somebody get this Anon his most based post of the day award

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i only use or respect statistics when they favor me, so if i say Tali is the canon option and Broshep should have a big ass statue in the biggest city of Rannoch, then thats the canon Bioware should follow.
            Holy based

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Incredibly based, knows what he wants, gets what he wants no questions asked.
            I kneel, my liege.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Liara is the correct choice, blueberries for life.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This statistic isn't really fair when you think about it. I mean of course Liara, James and Garrus are the highest you get them at the beginning while you don't get Tali till the halfway point in the game. Most of these stats are pretty bullshit and filled with people who didn't play the first two games.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chad broshep remains undefeated

  85. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His voice acting is literally better in every game. Femshep is a dramatic tryhard. Default appearance male shep IS shepard and I would never bother to pick anything else.

  86. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Male Shepard: Actually looks like a soldier.
    Female Shepard: Looks like a model, caked with make-up and loose hair in the middle of a firefight.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They both look like Hollywood actors.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dutch model, actually.

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >create a good character with the potential of being a great villain
    >voice actor is probably the best in the whole series
    >just turn him into saren 2 that barely shows up in the last game

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They ran out of budget to pay him and Yvonne.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was better as an antagonist rather than a villain.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >create a good character with the potential of being a great villain
      Anon TIM was fucking retarded and badly written from the get go

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    female shepard is awful, doesn't fit thr role at all. literally only gays and trannies pretend shes better

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was his name again?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      El Fedelobo

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    colonist + ruthless is the best backstory

    pure anti batarian bloodlust

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's Paragon with some Renegade and Earthborn + War Hero backstory.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spacer+Sole Survivor is the best for me.
      Helps us relate to each other, more.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Earth Born + War Hero is best because Shepard also has a delinquent past but he then changes for the better, just like Jack.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's Paragon with some Renegade and Earthborn + War Hero backstory.

      Earthborn + Survivor. Perfect mix of scrappy and down to earth. Just wish ME2 did a bit more to acknowledge the fact that Survivor Shep should absolutely hate Cerberus.

  91. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Colonist
    >Sole Survivor
    >Romance Ashley
    >Leave her on Virmire
    Oh yeah, it's punished Shepard time

  92. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll never forgive Bioware for not letting us romnce Kasumi.

  93. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they had actually given us the hot redhead concept for ME2, it would have landed well. That said, Hale did a great job, particularly for renegade. She has venom in her voice, while Meer's renegade lines come off more as standard asshole.

  94. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FEMSHEP IS FOR gayS

    THEY LITERALLY SIT BACK AND WATCH AS AN ALIEN MALE COCK FUCKS THEIR CHARACTER

    OHHHHHHHHHH NONONONONO

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO

    NOOOOOOOONONONONONONONONO

  95. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All you xenofuckers should please get off my fucking board, thank you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry Chud but Tali and Garrus are honorary humans, deal with it

  96. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shepard, you and are a lot more alike than you know. Did I ever tell you about my own suicide mission in the dark jungles of South East Asia? At the time we were at war with the Communists: an early Reaper civilization destroying WMD designed to test umanatee's mettle. They set up shop in a slithering beach nation called Vietnam. During the conflict, one of our colonels became indoctrinated by sideways rice pussy and went native. I was the one dispatched to silence him. I too was given my own ship, crew and a plethora of whacky hijinks ensued on the way to the colonel's base- I even managed to sleep with an alien vixen from an amphibian species know as the the French. Once I arrived at the heart of darkness, I realized that the rogue colonel had chosen to Control the local population- it was the right application, but the wrong conclusion given the circumstances. Unlike the Reapers, Communist Asians offered to benefit to umanatee, even in total subjugation. So we purged half the continent with napalm and I killed the colonel in a ritualistic trance. And he was a good friend.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >umanatee's

  97. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Male Shepard > Female Shepard. In every way.
    yes
    and the majority went with decision too

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