>Meet Cammelia
>Game suddenly becomes 10000000 times better
It's that simple
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>Game suddenly becomes 10000000 times better
It's that simple
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Camcam is a miracle of the universe and the perfect wife.
Shame her class and damage output absolutely suck.
She is good tank and has okay spells.
her class is great
shadow shaman is straight up better now that elemental barrage has been made useless sadly
Anon she's the only must pick companion
That would be Daeran/Sosiel. No other companions are "must picks"
she reminds me of a girl i used to like in college who came from a rich family. i wonder if she was also crazy and a b***h just like her.
camcam thread?
sign me up
I am helpful am I not?
I like her romance too but you have serious mental illness.
We already had a cam thread yesterday, is it so hard for you to discuss something else?
She is not real anon, and if she was she would be awful. Get your shit together.
Devil mythic path rework when?
never ever. your gonna get a old gay sarkonis shifter and your gonna love him
Instead of camcam can we discuss how hard is it to get a gf as an average white male?
You can do it anon. You arent hikky right?
What's there to discuss. It's easier than toast.
I'm 25 and a white khv, lost weight to the point of being lighter than my mother but I can't still get laid despite being 6'
>khv
Well there's your problem. You're not supposed to have carp herpes.
You are not the average white male then.
You are a minority in the white male community
Because you're an incel sperg that browses Ganker
I am average and without hep
The average white male is not kissless and hugless virgin, you are not average.
go back to /soc/ morons
I obviously meant in pathfinder, he is not average in pathfinder anon
I don't care, take your grifter shit somewhere else or stfu
Grifter shit?
shut up or stay on topic
>how about we take about off topic I’d politics shit
How about you frick off tourist
It’s unfortunate side effect of anything remotely d&d related being co-opted by political gays because it’s another place to cry about racial politics. Half of why this game is never talked about is because of homosexuals calling it “pozzed”
OH Boy it’s that homosexual who always claims pathfinder and war hammer are an off shoot of dungeons and dragons. Frick off already with this shit argument
what is this schizo word salad? What are you trying to say here
Pathfinder 1e literally was 3.5e updated, what are you on about?
Warhammer was its own thing.
>implyingthat pathfinder is not an off shoot of dungeons and dragons
how many levels of denial are you on right now, my dude?
Pathfinder is D&D 3.5e with the serial numbers filed off.
Paizo used to publish Dungeon Magazine and Dragon Magazine for Wizards of the Coast, when those magazines were discontinued they began publishing Pathfinder adventure paths as an alternative.
Then when D&D 4e came out under the newer and more restrictive Game System License, Paizo released Pathfinder RPG to continue producing content under the original Open Game License.
Black person, what are you talking about. White people are living life on easy mode just like girls. Just meet any asian thot and they will worship you.
maybe it's hard if you literally never talk to women at all
I wish women would break into my house at night and trap me in my bedroom and force me to talk to them.
It's so hard being a white male.
But how do you do that.
Every time I try I feel like I produce the opposite effect of the one I intend to produce.
how the frick does being white make it harder. If you are white and without a partner you have a severe deficiency in another field to offset easy mode.
game doesn't get good until Regill joins the party
Bratty elf… killing innocents… tradwife correction is needed…
where does she say that?
end of her personal questline if you didnt let her murder and tried to deny her last time.
>deny her last time
hot
women deserve no less than this
I like the elf b***h from the first one more.
You literally meet her right at the start of the game in a cutscene and then she joins your party before you ever see combat
Would you?
>i am glad i was useful to you (:
Thank you cam! Perfect lich sacrifice. if I ever saw this I would be too scared to do anything other than pretend I didn't see this and leave
>Perfect lich sacrifice
Camellia? Yes she is, the way she begs for her life as she feels the same things all her victims felt is great
>b***h can dish out but can't take it
What a wimp.
I swear, people didn't actually play this game.
She doesn't really beg you, she tries to change your mind obviously and zacharius silences her mid sentence in fear you might reconsider.
"What? What is he talking about?" "Don't become a lich! Think about it! Remain who you are! Why do you need this? Why do you need power if it doesn't bring pleasure? Change your mind, while it's not..." As soon as Zacharius weakens the paralyzing spell, Camellia shouts with fear in her voice. "I knew! I knew that we shouldn't show our relationships! It's all your fault!" Camellia's paralyzed body doesn't even twitch under your blow. Only the girl's eyes look at you with terror, until death fills his gaze.
>This isn't begging according to you because she doesn't literally use the word "beg"
jeez. and here i thought she was tough. b***h got scared by some skeletons lmao
Did you expect her to say
>Yeah, kill me!
?
She doesn't go
>please don't kill me!
She actually tries to convince you with a proper argument.
she's right, lichel is an awful path
It's funny that her conclusion is not that she shouldn't have dated you, but that she should have done so in secret
Bases sperg
why did they made her so cute and lewd? i sometimes forgets that she used to be a evil succubus
because she was written by a weeb moron
is there a name for these kind of pics?
I have seen others similar to this
That's a gecko pic.
Maybe searching "gecko looking at you" will let you find more
That's a skink you idiot.
That's a bawd you idiot.
>woman that kills men after she fricks them
Yeah, nah.
You won't believe how this b***h annoyed me. I patiently kept her around, hoping that it would pay off with some good end. But nooo, "hey let's kill all those innocent servants for shit and giggles lol" and then immediately switch to autistic screeching for refusing to let her do so. So I killed her on the spot and I was only angry that I waited so long. What a bullshit.
Camelia is shit and everyone who likes her is either moronic or psychopath. Thank Heavens for being able to make custom companions so I only had to carry around these idiots when I required their personal quests. Premade companions are worst shit in RPGs
>Premade companions are worst shit in RPGs
No, they used to be good. It is nu-crpg garbage made by morons the ones that suck.
>Game suddenly becomes 10000000 times better
considering you meet her almost immediately after getting control of your character properly, i wouldn't give her credit
i kill that b***h every playthrough though, i hate teamkillers. maybe not on my current demon run but whatever
>develop slight interest in this game
>look up class videos
>watch several 40min+ videos
>FINALLY get around to buying game
>learn about mythic classes while it's DLing
>need to watch EVEN more videos
>find azata the most interesting
>need to watch EVEN MORE videos just to figure out how to unlock it
>still haven't even started the game
>this thread pops up
I just wanted to be a fricking barbarian...feels like I'm filing taxes.
homie you did it to yourself
Just play normal and level 20 barbarian (preferably instinctual warrior) you do not need to minmax
Guess I'll just do one of these two. Thanks anon.
But anon! How will you be able to stomach the unfun and unbalanced difficulty setting that makes 90% of classes irrelevant and is pretty much only shilled by youtubers if you don't understand how to create a AoO build and how to perfectly divide attributes between yourself and your obligatory pet(dog btw) and that you have to take the shittiest companion along because she has smite and that rolling any alignment besides lawful good is bad because you won't get Cha saves?
just play on easy or normal if it's that hard for you.
But anon, clearly Un(fun)fair is the only valid gamemode, all my youtubers told me so! Imagine playing a class without taking five dips. Makes me shiver.
Rovagug is also a decent pick if you want to play a more evil barbarian. As a bonus you get plenty of synergy and bonus dialogue with both Swarm and Demon.
Also, as a side note on intelligence. It's one of the least important stats in kingmaker and WOTR especially, so don't be afraid to dump it down to -3. It matters even less if you're human since they get bonus skillpoints.
>dumping int
mommy is not proud
You dump Int so you can boost your wisdom to such high levels that you can never be tricked or misled. Either that or dump that too to go full unga bunga.
Good thing I don't care about that terrible mother
>bonus dialogue with both Swarm and Demon.
I went rovagug with demon and I had 0 (zero) flavor dialogue
even with the demon in the colosseum who literally worships rovagug
Really? I'm pretty sure that I saw a screenshot of some Rovagug dialogue you get if you hit the Orc woman during your demonic rage in the commander's tent.
I don't remember that, could be possible but if that's the case it's the only thing rovagug has to offer
gorum has more flavor
>gorum has more flavor
Certainly. Evil paths almost always get shafted in terms of content, but if the anon is going for a complete "blood for the blood god/waagh" type barbarian then Rovagug is a legitimate rp choice.
>How will you be able to stomach the unfun and unbalanced difficulty setting that makes 90% of classes irrelevant
by using cheats
remember to pick gorum as your god, he is literally the god of moronic barbarians
Anon let me help you. Do all side quests in act 1 (its obvious) you are fine. For barbarian just play bloodrager/its subclasses its just objectively better. Azata picks for barb are obvious so I wont help you there.
it's not as autistic as those videos made it sound anon. just pick fighter, go angel and enjoy the game
Fox goddess Nenio is the strongest party member. Always keep the phantasmal killer machine in your party.
Remember to bring your pet wizard to the pyramid!
This is a role-playing game, play the way you want. Do not read manuals, do not study the experience of other players. A good role-playing game should give you pleasure regardless of your choice, because in a good role-playing game there should not be a right and winning choice. If a role-playing game has a favorable class or plot path in advance, this is a bad role-playing game.
>Different complexion outsider reluctantly in a shotgun wedding
nice
this is fine in theory, but the pathfinder games throw so many curvy balls at people who arent intimately familiar with the system.
now that's a rare fanart. any more like this?
>i made her star in porn movie and then sold her to slavery
Is that what’s happening there? It looks a pair of siblings forcing the vault dweller to marry the sister at gun point.
>It looks like*
Wake up, me.
It's Fallout 2 fanart of the forced marriage you can put into by a pair of siblings father if you have sex with one of them
No, what happens is the chosen one (the guy in the suit, he's not a vault dweller) sleeps with some ho from the boonies, and her father forces you to marry her, unless you can persuade him it's not what it looks like (it is). She becomes a companion that you can't just get rid of (and she's fricking terrible) unless you sell her into slavery. You can also force her to do porn, but she will still follow you around after that
Yea I went blind and wanted to be a druid. Fricking hell was that a mistake.
For this one i am do not agree.
If you want to do a mythic pact except angeldemontrickster you have to do specific stuff to achieve your goal and it's borderline impossibile to know what to do on a blind run. Considering the mythic paths are one of the selling point of the game, at least a guide without spoilers for them it's recomended.
Also companion classes are not that good, you dont have a frontline except the paladin for a long time, if you do another divine caster you already have THREE of them. Ok you can take mercs but it's no fun cause you want to see the banter and the interactions. Also if you play more than normal you will spit blood to pass some fights without proper instruments.
are you a zoomer? literally boot the game, make a character and start playing, it's that easy
Not him, but I tried doing that on Kingmaker and gave up 10 hours in. It probably wasn't the best choice for my first CRPG. Is Wrath any easier, or should I start with another game instead? Or maybe try Kingmaker on Easy?
Just copy a build and read feats while you copy it so you understand how ti works for another playtrough.
You can put the companions on autolevel so you don't have to deal with their classes etc as well.
Kingmaker early game is incomparably worse and more importantly slower than WotR. You should be fine in Wrath.
Mythic vital strike hits for a lot. As the other anon mentioned, spellcasters are great too, you can do a melee sorc if you want something more manly than a wizard.
If you read tooltips, you can usually tell how to win fights at least on Core.
What I'd recommend is having a Wizard/Sorcerer that is heavily focused on DC checks. Nenio is good for this as she can turbo boost her Illusion and Enchantment DCs into the stratosphere.
Have a Cleric/Oracle for important buffs as some hard fights can be trivialized with Resist Elements or Death Ward, Unbreakable Heart etc.
Also have some ranged damage on your team as some enemies are just straight up not meant to be fought in melee (smilodons, golems etc) unless using a meme AC stacking build.
Look, I watched a couple of videos too, but you don't really have to be that autistic to do it. Just pick a class and go
Should I make my arcane rider an eldritch knight or just go 20 arcane rider?
I took a break once I took Drezen and never got back to it but now that I'm thinking about it I want to try a new class as I went Aldori Swordsman and its honestly pretty boring to play
Am I very far in the game at all or have I barely touched it and it wouldnt be too bad making a new character again?
You can respec by speaking to hilor
Kingmaker > wotr
Mythic levels are just too clunky, bloaty and unfun. I really hope if they return to pathfinder after rogue trader they'll include swashbucklers or gunslingers.
>complaining about unfun while shilling the game with House at the End of Time
Kingmaker is more comfy, but wotr is the ultimate powerfantasy. I can't really pick a favorite but I will say kingmaker just feels very special.
And go back to not having infinite rage/judgements? No thanks
>https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Extra_Rage
+
>https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Inner_Demon
+
>Not having a garbage constitution score
+
> At each level after 1st, she can rage for 2 additional rounds.
Rage can easily be made plentiful in Kingmaker.
kingmaker runs so fricking bad for me it's basically unplayable
I wouldn't play Pathfinder without having to not worry about rebuffing constantly thanks to Enduring Spells
there are mods where you press 1 button and it'll do every buff
Kingmaker has horrendous companions. Jubilost and Ekundayo were the only ones who didn't piss me off at every step.
I'mdisappointed that the only reactivity I've seen for Asmodeus so for is telling Yaker the Hellknights are cucks for worshiping anyone else and telling Nurah that she needs correction via Asmodeus' mace.
the frick is this image supposed to convey? eyepussy?
not being able to understand facial expressions is a sign of autism
sorry for not having some fricked up fetish
so it's a fetish thing, just not eyepussy
>so it's a fetish thing
honestly can't tell if you're a genuine moron or just pretending
What the frick does being able to understand the OP pic have to do with fetishes lmao
It's a funny reaction pic related to her in game behavior, there is nothing sexual about it.
you're trying too hard, anon.
She's faking having her eyes closed but she's actually observing you and calculating her odds of stabbing you and getting away with it.
What's her game called?
lving up actually felt kinda bad for me when i played this, which is the first time i ever think it has happened. lvling all companions up and having to figure out what the frick to take from all the availble options was a chore.
I'm trying to think of an RPG companion who is a worse person than Camellia
I'm stumped
every mc you play as because you're a bad person
Camellia is good exploration of how people will ignore absolutely heinous shit when it's an attractive female doing it.
being attractive is not enough or else I wouldn't want to bash arueblabla's teeth out every time she says something
surely that was the point of her character. when you first catch her murdering someone and then immediately get the option to sexo her, it just comes across as the writers going "you really gonna have sex with the character we just revealed is a deranged cannibal murderer?".
who is more evil, Jaethal or Camellia?
jaethal
Jethal is more calculated evil, she will do the most revolting evil to gain something
Camcam is spergout evil, she has evil urges she has to satisfy.
Cam can't be kept in check, while Jaethal can, but I can't say Jaethal is morally a better person at all.
Camellia and it's not even a contest.
Jaethal over the entire game in the worst outcome
>raises some elf as zombie against her will
>kills some Urgathoa priestess if I remember right
>kills her daughter
that's all - and you can talk her out of everything above
>kills her daughter
>that's all
homie she was raised from the dead by urgothoa because of how comically evil she was
She raised her daughters as sacrifices to be used to gain pleasure, because that's what it was about.
She is the same as camellia, just less urge driven which is why you can talk her out of it.
jaethal killed half of her family and enjoyed it, it's only in game that she does frickall
Camellia is an insane serial killer, Jaethal can at least be convinced to not kill her own daughter, to denounce Urgathoa, and she isn't a crazy b***h that spergs out if you tell her to stop killing
homies you do realize that Cam is evil because since she was haunted by evil, insane and bloodthirsty spirits since a toddler and even worse her father kept her hidden and locked up instead of sending her away from the world wound to get looked at by some proper clerics
Why the frick should I care, she's still evil
What I am trying to say is that Jaethal is far more evil because she has no excuse. She is just selfish, hedonistic and evil. Cam Cam is evil because of circumstances outside her control.
and how do you think jaethal got that way anon?
Jaethal has at least some sense of morality you can impart in her judging from her daughter
Camellia is just a hopeless case from the beginning
it's at least feasible that you can keep jaethal around as a lawful good hero
I like the magus class as a concept but whenever I try to build one I just feel like I've made a sub par martial and a sub par caster
>buff up
>cast shocking touch
>delete enemy
>"sub par"
???
>5d6 damage
not even worth for ascended element lightning
>he doesn't know how to use metamagic
10d6, 20d6 on a crit of a roll of 15 with a scimitar/rapier + 2/3 extra attacks on top of that.
I'd rather use those limited spells slots for buffs, 1 handing weapons as a str magus is also worse than 2handing
>str magus
>not using allies to buff you instead aside from mirror image and shield
come on anon...
play Eldritch Scion, sorcerer works better for magus than wizard
>20d6
Pathetic
>hitting Nenio
rude
>hitting Nenio
mandatory
>hitting Nenio
required
if anything Magus is OP as frick if you play SS or ES.
isn't edlritch scion STR+CHR based?
i thought she was lying about the spirits . that's why i killed her
she lies about mireya but she still communes with spirits since she's a real shaman
That's by design. Would be kind of silly to make a single class that makes two others completely irrelevant. jack of all trades, master of none.
SS is arguably the best martial in the game
i miss it bros, the hype around wotr was massive and keeps threads alive 247. wh40k is a trash no one cares about.
The threads were good, except for that one nutter who kept calling the game pozzed
The game has been out for over a year, no one other than you homosexuals wanting to circlejerk each other on your generals cares anymore
When the alpha came out /vrpg/ was flooded with threads too. but the lack of mythic paths means there is very little to speculate about yet.
>that guy who wanted a cyborg mythic path
would have been cool
I want to play tabletop but my friends take so fricking long between each session that I stop caring about my character and want to make a new one.
Is camcam inatrunctual barbarian monk dip still meta?
>thread already ruined by polhomosexuals
Welp. Guess we’ll have to try again later
Not having a waifu as the OP would be a good start.
These threads have no reason to be, they're just endless shitposting, stop trying to use the evil waifugays as a scapegoat
No thread has reason to be, what is your point?
Aside from the attention whoring homosexual samegayging about normalgay shit it’s still salvageable just report the c**t and move on
>muh pol
This is Ganker you downie.
Why do only pol homosexuals complain when they get called out? Even a tv or qa(rip) homosexual doesn’t become such a defensive whiny b***h when they get called out for their moronic off topic shit. Kys moron
Because nobody says Ganker or /qa/ and it's funny watching you sperg out when I reply.
peple keep posting this fanart and i still don't understand what it's trying to say
jesus. i never knew that bolt of justice was the most op angel spell available
>one shot a balor
>one shot Vallexia
>depleted the battlebliss champion hp to 10%
I`ve not allowed her to live even once. First run she was executed due to her unlawful acts. Second run she was thoroughly fricked and then betrayed and sacrificed.
I want to demon run as mage caster who polymorphs himself
I want to do cavalier
I want to do trickster sword sain with fauchard with that sweet 15 to crit and touch ac run but I don't like trickster.
>I want to do trickster sword sain with fauchard with that sweet 15 to crit and touch ac run but I don't like trickster.
Trickster Fauchard is 11-20 not 15-20
Its been so long I actually forgot. Even better also forgot what the one attack thing was called.
>one attack thing was called.
Vital Strike?
Thats it! I even played through the ashes recently and that one companion had it. I should have remembered it.
Trickster is scythechad. 15-20 with x9 > 11-20 with x4
With vital strike dmg will be still enough to one shot almost anything also I love reach since I tend to make low con/dex chars.
There is a feat that gives reach now
Oh, cool. Though if memory serves I usually find myself feat starved as sword saint, but then again if memory serves game has better scythes than fauchards.
use the jinx falchion that hits twice for every attack when the enemy is under a hex effect
>aeon run
>find her in the basement
>erase her from existence immediately
I can fix her.
her romance ending is the MC trying to do that, but she runs away anyway because she can't be fixed.
You just didn’t try hard enough. You’re just weak, that’s all.
weak would be not executing her immediately
Yes immediately ending her pathetic life is pretty fun, I agree
>pick azata
>pick double spell
>pick dragonic bloodline x 3 for max fire damage
>dip into backatab
>spam raya
Simple as
>they'll never include the best wizard archetype
Well you meet her like two minutes into the game
well Woljiff just left my party after i told him his grandpa is a homosexual. so should i make a full viv or anothe eldritch scoundrel?
>Azata is perfect for the class I have in mind for my next playthrough
>can't stand the CG homosexualry
what class? Most likely atleast one other mythic path would complement it
Magus, specifically Eldritch Scion
go trickster
I am not the most familiar with magus but trickster/lich could work.
I agree, she really is built to be flogged with big balor chains.
is there a Targona romance mod yet?
the devs for that are likely dead or beggin for money in turkey after running away from mobilization
>Bartender is guilty of breaking the law (selling crayon)
>If I confront him about that I'll be forced to jail him otherwise I get demoted to renegade aeon and Mephistopheles is my BFF forever
>OR
>I can simply ignore his aura. I stay true aeon and he keeps working at his tavern
Monad?
>otherwise I get demoted to renegade aeon
I'm pretty sure only the real judgments matter for that, he comes back in act 5 regardless
I did a bit of research on aeon stuff after failing to execute the d*snan drug dealer. Turns out that I was at 3/5 with the real judgements and that's the minimum required to continue being true aeon. Talking with the innkeeper and bailing him out of a trial changed Mephistopheles's "what do you think of my judgements" dialog from "you're a impartial lawgay" to "hey I like you now". The mirror was unchanged. Maybe that's just a +1 to unlock the devil path.
>kiddie diddlers?
Oh, they're desnans
>drug pushers?
>desnans again
a mere coincidence, I'm sure
stop posting westernslop "waifus" on my board
western waifus are miles better than animu ones
moron
animu ones all look the same, face the facts
Based
moron
>Went full evil, blind playtrough as demon.
>Ok let's see how much evil i can be (considering i didn't like path 1 cause it was boring as frick).
>All good characters got smited by dark powers in the end (except the priest for some reason).
>Eat or be eaten mentality with every enemy.
>Wendu is my waifu and psycho as ever.
>Camellia has my direct order to enjoy her killings.
>Daeran is smug as frick.
>Regill is ok, as long as i kill demons.
>Ember completely mindbroke (i enjoyed that).
>Rampage new mangement through the abyss city.
>Killed the queen (too bad i couldnt enjoy in a more sadistic way).
Man honestly this game is pretty good if you want to go evil. I can't remember another title where you can go really evil, tiranny was ok but it was more judge dredd evil, not really power mechanics.
Try kingmaker and play a lawful evil tyrant, it's even better in that regard
Companions and main quest really bored me to death. I did three playtroughts and i stopped twice at the barbarian mission where you have to sneak and last at the house with the lanterns. They really spoke to me for... nothing, i can't even remember something from their quests or background except the dwarf was marvin from hitchhiker guide, the warriorpaladin was ugly as frick but everyone tought she was hot as frick, the israelite gnome, the stronk female barbarian and the couple. Oh and the totally im not gonna betray you cleric. Sebastian? Something like that.
This without considering the constant going back to the main city (which thankfully here is nothing of the sort on wrath) and the plot being generic af.
Wrath is an overall upgrade in every single point, i finished today with 120hrs and time litterally fllew.
Just wanted to remind everyone who the real Queen is
cross eyed
Queen of incompetence
Nocticula?
she is a incompetent jealous b***h. her belittling me in front of the herald and the crusader made me instantly hate her
>do literally everything right
>"ummmmm is that A SUCCUBUS I SEE"
>"TO THE ABYSS WITH YOU"
What is the worst way you could kill her? Figthing her and the lesbian orc wasn't that great. I will base my next playtrough on the worst possibility, exluding swarm cause it's too easy.
lich, you even get to turn her into a undead companion
don't do irabeth's quest. then watch the queen c**t getting ripped apart by the dragon
which one? there's multiple.
>there's multiple.
the one where she's moping about dropping her spaghetti during gargoyle attack
There isn't one besides going lich or swarm
>lich
What is the best class? I mean i know lich is a caster but can i do a divine lich or it's just stupid cause he buffs i don't know intelligence?
>What is the worst way you could kill her?
Aeon. Geriatrification by reverting cumulated effect of sun orchid elixirs
Maybe if we get the Galfrey corruption route with the devil path, you could do that.
>devil
That was something i wanted to ask. What do you do in the devil's path, i mean all the game is demon this demon that, do you actually see a devil in game? I am no expert in pathfinder so maybe i missed something.
there is devil in your court. also azata path if you want to go devil
No i mean what exactly you do, i mean swarm eats, demon goes management on abyss, dragon drage i suppose, angel try to save everyone. What's the devil's business in the context? Do i have to go azata first to understand other stuff? I only did demon.
Even what you have written what are the devils doing in all the story?
>What's the devil's business in the context?
They're israelites
Devils in your court are trying to israelite people out of their souls. You find contracts that are basically you get powers, we get your soul. I forget the larger plot since I haven't played wotr in long time.
Does pathfinder even have anything close to a blood war that explains why demons and devils aren't working together?
devils and demons are completely different things lorewise
I obviously know that
True, I wonder why creatures of Chaos dont work with creatures of Law? Its a mystery.
They don't seem to have as much to split between each other like DND. Not saying they should buddies, but aren't the demons rampaging around something that the devils can take advantage of to lure mortals with the promises of power? Seems like they have more reasons to work together than not in pathfinder.
>but aren't the demons rampaging around something that the devils can take advantage of to lure mortals with the promises of power?
That's exactly what Mephistopheles does to you
So why are you pretending what I said is bullshit? There is even precedent of that in pathfinder.
>why aren't lawtists working with chaos incarnate
It would make sense for devils to use demons for farthering their own goals. kinda like israelites are using Black folk
It's been confirmed by owlcat, this year there will be a full rework of Devil from start to finish.
Lol, lmao, what the frick did you expect
give sauce or you're a homosexual
YOU LIE!
They should, but wont.
What sucks the most is that Season 2 of DLC is going to be a disaster- what they announced is really bad. Hopefully RT done soon.
i am still hoping the citadel dlc will be good. who knows, we could get some new endings too.
Some new endings and some lategame interaction with companions really wont do it for me. I played the game too much already to care about something so tiny. What do you exactly expect from it?
>working together
I dont think it means what you think it means anon.
>something so tiny
>When the thing people b***h the most about is the lack of things to do in act 5
So? Its like saying the new Legend quest in Act 5 is a great addition because its in Act 5. Who cares? Its completely inconsequential. The only tangible addition since launch was Inevitable Excess and they cleverly stuck it so far into it that I havent played it yet, because I get bored before Threshold every time.
I think you are just taking what I said to literally for no other reason but to be pointlessly argue.
Wait the citadel DLC is going to be in act 5? I assumed act 3, act 5 has too much urgency to justify from a RP perspective to take a vacation
>act 5 has too much urgency to justify
The only urgency is to go to Iz
She gets too much shit and too few wholesome scenes shame.
buy the next dlc ;^)
Wholesome romance in the game combined with the best end makes up for it
I have a carnal desire to dominate and impregnate crazy b***hes.
>2023
>STILL no Linzi romance
Can someone explain this? I don't understand why Owlcat would do this to us.
Believe it or not, 99% of the population do not find linzi attractive, me included.
Now, Minhago on the other hand....
>short
>pedo
this is the thought progress for most wrpg.
>make a female halfling
>can romance all the big boys
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
nobody but a few pathetic degenerates find shitzi attarctive or even like her
it would have been problematic because to some people short=pedo!
>no way to sexo both her and her lesbian lover
owlkeks are bunch israelites
She is not attractive and her personality is disgusting
Since here you lot seems to have played this game a lot spill a list of the paths in order of how much interactions and game changing options you have, i mean in the homm war, relation with companions or important npc, main quests solution differences, stuff like that.
>prebuffing simulator
Based
>Australian Power
Everytime
get the buff durations first.
I read the dlcs are awful, too bad i wanted more. What went so wrong?
owlkeks dlc are alway bad
The roguelike dlcs and the twins are fine.
tiefling dlc
>Oh new companion and class who cares...
>WAIT BUT IT'S TIEFLINGS THAT I CAN FRICK OOOH HHHH GOOOOOD I'M COOMING I'M GONNA COOOOOOOM
Kineticist is fun class though and romance is great.
It could have been better in some regards but not bad.
it's time to admit it was bad
It wasn't horrible but it didn't really have enough stuff in it to justify buying it.
The twins had relatively not much dialogue compared to other companions
I have no other experience with them. Care to explain? I mean not owlcat problems, whats wrong with the dlcs.
It's hard to say. They are low effort, and don't actually add stuff that people want.
When someone buys a DLC for a game he wants more of that game.
So if I buy a megadungeon DLC for a pathfinder game I expect RP opportunities, new characters to meet, challenging combat.
Instead it's just a randomly generated roguelike dungeon with just the bare minimum effort put in to give it a story that justifies its presence in the game.
I would love to see internal stats on how popular the separate campaigns are- I mean they are making another one ... so obviously someone is buying and playing them. But I´ve seen a ton of people saying they dont care about this ancillary disconnected shit.
So at least the dungeon stuff is bolted on the main story.
235 votes for the new companion and shifter, 212 votes for the citadel dlc, and 52 for the separate campaign part 2, from their discord
why does no one want the campaign
Because no one cares about sided characters, no one cared about Varnhold's lot either
I'm not against the separate campaigns, but when you only have 2 companions and 1 of the two is literally unbearable then there is something wrong with it.
>I'm not against the separate campaigns
I dont think DLC is a good format for it. I would be all for Throne of Bhaal style standalone expansion, lets say, 50 hours, full featured. Like the old times.
But these 6 hour mini stories are just a waste of my time. Rather play the main game.
They put out a questionnaire but cleverly didnt specify the options on offer.
For example there was an option for a new companion + class.
People expected something like the twins for Kingmaker, which brought a great companion(s) for a heterosexual male and a cool new class.
Instead we are getting some gay shifter. We have been bamboozled.
Holy usedgoodsmoley! No thanks, miss me with that shit.
Is anything from the second season pass out yet?
No. They are hard at work on the Devil quest that is going to take 10 minutes and should have been in EE. Give them six more months.
I played on premiere and cheated my way through the HOMM campaign shit. Is it actually playable now?
should be still the same
get setsuna and spam spells
Litch alignment can stay true neutral, means that people just don't give two fricks about me or at every corner it will be "smite the undead" in any case?
smite the undead.
Well fugg. Good liches are always my favourite archetype when i play d&d.
Your alignment is irrelevant, every path is written with an alignment in mind and Lich is NE
No matter how many kittens you pet, if you put shards of people souls into dead bodies so you can enslave them, people are ought to not look at you positively.
Your aligment doesn't matter you're still an abomination. PF liches are different from DnD ones. The negative energy powering their undeath always turns them into psychopaths.
>Your aligment doesn't matter you're still an abomination.
Not immediately. I was hoping for a tragic story like that lich commander from the trailer. Instead I turned into Tar-Baphon in six months.
>your actually half-demon hybrid
how the frick does that work? did Areelu stitched a human and Incubus parts into one body?
Is there any combo of mythicalignmentquest where i can be a daughter for areelu, litterally giving her what she wanted and let her be my mommy? And not mommy in a sexual way, i mean being her daughterson?
yes, the secret ending path. It can be hard to find for first time players. and don't go legend.
Which class do I go for in Kingmaker if I want to be unstoppable? Dodge all strikes, resist all spells, kick fey asses.
Maybe I'll manage to beat it this time.
sword saint with a monk dip. it's the boringly busted build every guide googler uses
>spellcaster
ehhh
just self-buff and otherwise play as melee
Magus - Sword Saint
>arue automatically kneeled in front of Nocticula
kek
wendog moment
huuuum it's actually okay because she's the redeemer queen and arue is also redeemed
What game is OP talking about??
Looks interesting
camcam dating simulator
Succubus handholding simulator
pathfinder: wrath of the righteous
thanks
Does the RPG system get into a lot of depth? Or there guilds and stuff?
this sounds like a fun game
>Or there guilds and stuff?
Did you mean guides? There's plenty of them all over the place. Stay away from Neoseeker though, their builds aren't well crafted and won't make you better at the game. Here's a couple of build guides to give you an idea
https://egenglish.net/category/game/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTOaVhQ_NLpXLf_h6z8pN_-g-KBPXUTkIqVad2j-AzDRyvD3ATDx9Y_rxOjuPc7k-LLzZ_Q0-t78u8b/pubhtml#
playful darkness fricked my mom IRL simulator
i pity turn-based enjoyers who didn't get to experience that shithead melting a companion before you even realize whats happening
No need, we still got to experience the joys of high level alchemists lobbing 12 bombs at us in one round.
Similar vibe.
>arue immediatly kneels to Nocticula's influence
>but she can resist Baphomet's
Why is the game so intent in humiliating us goatbros...
What is the difference between trickster and azata? Azata for what i can understand is some kind of fairy superman, what is the trickster? A clown? Q?
A meme lord that doesn't care about anything other than his own amusement
>Q?
yeah that's about it.
your suppose to be Loki.
ask /x/ about DMT trips
>not a romance for girl characters
sorry, not perfect.
sexy girls with killing and cannibalism fetishes are for pure yuri love only.
can you be nocticula's femboy sex toy in demon route?
Yes, if you have no self respect (which clearly you don't)
>want to play evil
>already played lich to death
>dont want to be a chaoskek
Devilbros, why did Owlcat decide to pick on us?
if you pick nocticula's side as demon it's not very chaotic
True and you get Vellexia as your pet. Shame that the Balor form fills the offhand with irremovable whip. Wanted to play a sword saint demon and push people´s shit in while looking stylish.
Is Vellexia noct path exclusive or not?
no I got her after I sided with shamira
Figured just wanted to make sure.
Aeon has synergies with inquisitors. Oracle (battle) is meme but great fun for angel cleric of course also works.
If i want to be an extremely lawful character what's more fun? Angel to be like the divine avenger or aeon?
Aeon
wanna smite demons or be a janitor who gets roasted by a mirror if you show emotions during judgements?
Do you want to be sword in hand let god judge their own. Or cold all in its place time travel (which is cool btw) way I would do it is choose your class and then decide based on that.
>class
I would go with a caster class since i've done a cavalier. In case, if i want to be the divine avenger i would do cleric, if aeon uhhh dont know but surely no god stuff.
How far does the RPG elements go in this game?
>buy armor
>have a farm
>buy an in game house
>kidnap npcs or imprison them
Is it just combat or can you do anything with NPCs?
mostly combat with a RTS minigame shoehorned in called the crusade system where you build up little armies to fight demon forts. you can imprison some npc's but you can't do much with them
More like
>buy armor
>have a crusade
>build an in game huge ziggurat of death
>raise NPCs and force them to fight for you
npcs or imprison them
this is a crpg, not an immersive sim like the elder scrolls games
you can imprison people
>Fye
What the frick? What has he done?
tax evasion
he sells crayon powder to his customers that are looking for drugs after you execute the desnan drug dealer
dealing fake drugs
>he even arrested Fye
a little dope never hurt nobody
So Owlcat is not done with WotR yet? Any chance Cam gets a good ending?
That's the best possible outcome your relationship with her at the end of the game could have.
Be grateful she didn't kill you because she had some affection for you
Any tips for Demon character? Any classes that synergise with it?
Do Rage based classes merge rages like Aeon merges Inquisitor Bane?
Also, what determines your transformation attack bonuses and stuff?
wizard DC caster is the ultimate demon
casting with the rage monster path sounds lame
hmm, interesting, a Cleave or Vital Strike build seems like it could be interesting
>raging wizard is lame
you're lame
Ad to the teleport. It teleports your pet too if you are riding it, so you can be a semi arcane rider with any class.
Make a character that works well with the demon´s demonic teleport (move action 30? feet teleport, unlimited). Because its fun to zip around and slap shit.
if i do angel path but clericpaladin of another god it has some differences or im always iomedae's errand boy? I mean rp wise would be very important.
I want to do a summoner class but usually (as i recall from my 3.0 experience on tabletop) usually summoned creatures suck shit, what is the most broken classcombo i can do if i want to specialize in summons?
Dont. Unless you are willing to use toybox to give yourself full summon control.
Spare yourself the pain.
Actually dont do it even with toybox. Summons suck balls. The best summon in the game is the humble skeleton. Because its cheap cannon fodder.
There's some summon only items like give all your summons perma haste while permanently slowing yourself. If you're doing a summoner I would recommend Aeon as he can give his summons some fat stat boosts and eventually can give them all his Bane for some hilarious shenanigans.
>allow multiple romances mod from toybox
>start all female romances
>become a demon
>rape Vellexia and spend months ingame fricking the prostitutes and especially Mad Glowworm
>be Nocticula's good boy but encourage her to listen to Ember
>act 5 starts, become a Gold Dragon
>complete all romances including Cam's
>Ascend with Areelu and all my companions
>impregnate my entire harem including Areelu
>Nocticula also ascends because of me and Ember
>impregnate her too
>live eternally as a God surrounded by your harem
This game is peak coomerkino if you headcanon some stuff in.
>The game is peak coomer kino if you cheat and pretend you have an harem when in truth you can only have one relationship
Yeah
I'm the hero of the story and if Ascended one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse I can do whatever I want.
>Perception and lore checks mid dialogue with no rolls to tell you where or what the frick you missed that locks you out of the secret ending
>Bugs out of the ass that prevents you from hitting some flags
Areelu's ending might as well be the toybox ending. I once murdered Deskari both in Iz and threshold for whatever reason 130 hours in and that prevented me from getting the ending legit.
You're just a moron. Did Ascension at launch without bugs.
Acquire skill homo.
You can critical fail the hidden dialogue skill checks
Skills can't critical fail mate
I've seen them fail
Well then that Areelu PER check in Nocticula's palace must be sky high if Lann the fricking mann and my 40 perception MC didn't notice shit during her 53D chess dialogue
Just stop being a moron a do what the game tells you,max one or two skill per character
Which one should i pick for my next playthrough?
>Angel-kin Aasimar Eldritch Scion(Abyssal Bloodline)
>Halfling Bard
>Shelyn(Luck Domain) glaive wielding Inquisitor
>Elven Granadier
-kin Aasimar Eldritch Scion(Abyssal Bloodline)
only if you're being a STRchad instead of a DEXlet
STR 18
DEX 13
CON 14
INT 12
WIS 10
CHR 16
>even str
Lmfao
I finished Kingmaker on Hard with this build just fine
7 STR
19 + 3 DEX
13 CON
17 + 1 INT
14 WIS
7 CHR
I remember I was trying to play a pure dex swordsaint build. Are these good stats? I believe anons were telling me to try to go for this years ago when I first played
Kingmaker or WOTR? Either game, your early game is gonna be absolute horrible trash with you dealing 0-1 damage half the time with that negative STR modifier.
Low CHA blows in Kingmaker too as there's a lot of Persuasion checks that only your baron can do.
you can get slashing grace as soon as you get weapon focus
Oh right, I thought it had a BAB requirement but I guess it's just feats.
DEX to Damage but only if offhand is free. There is no INT persuasion background, only WIS.
You'll be fine if it's WOTR, Daeran is so min-maxed towards Persuasion that even CHA based MCs will struggle to have a higher Persuasion score than him. He'll do all your checks for you.
slashing doesn't need off hand free, only piercing I think
they both do, you can't dex to damage dual wield without Rogue or Mythic Weapon Finesse
you can dual wield with slashing grace, the requirement is having the weapon one handed. You need double slice for full dex bonus to off hand weapon
This absolutely should not work, if it does then it is a bug, slashing/fencing grace requires off-hand to either be empty or a buckler (Camellia).
off hand free is not mentioned anywhere for slashing, only for fencing
>You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied
that's fencing
I just checked in game and
>You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or any time another hand is otherwise occupied
is literally a part of Slashing Grace lol. Fextralife is trash.
>Fextralife is trash.
The wrath wiki is probably the worst wiki for a major game I´ve ever seen.
Ok nvm. Owlkek doesn't know how to code for shit LMAO. Slashing Grace is giving DEX to DMG even while dual-wielding.
I tried now on a new character and it wasn't giving bonus to the offhand weapon, regill may be wonky because of how double weapons (don't) work in this game
I'm using it with Scimitars in that screenshot (turned light with effortless dualwielding). Offhand is definitely getting DEX bonus.
This makes it much easier to run a dual wield DEX build now as you don't have to wait till Lost Chapel to get Mythic Weapon Finesse.
yeah idk I tried finesse, weapon focus, and slashing on a fresh character with kukris and it wasn't giving bonus to the offhand
try that
Hmm, you're right. I just tested Kukris and Handaxes and it doesn't work. I wonder what caused it to start working with Regill's Scimitars.
The feat seems to work properly with Kukris and Handaxes where it gets disabled when you dual-wield.
Maybe I shouldn't have shit on Owlcat's hard working coders too early >.>
might be fighter's finesse
Do you have the mythic feat?
Also forgot to ask if the weapon has agile
No. I specifically didn't choose Mythic Weapon Finesse to test it. Might not have even been Slashing Grace converting the damage.
Nope, just 2 Masterwork Scimitars I had in inventory.
Its not a bug. Its a feature. A happy little accident.
I unironically like these little oversight deviations, makes for fun builds that wouldnt be possible otherwise.
It's both. Owlcat forgot to add the extra line for Slashing I guess. I'll toybox a build and see if it actually works tho.
owlcat changed many things from the actual tabletop, it's legit
Wotr.
Ill have to keep in mind whatever that is.
Its dex to dmg I believe. Also remember to get background that lets you use your int for persuasion (I believe)
you need to get dex to both attack and damage (by default it's str). Weapon finesse gives dex to attack, slashing/piercing grace gives dex to damage
I think I remember getting weapon finesse, the dex to damage thing sounds familiar. I havent played the game in like 2 years I was annoyed at the bugs and missing content so i was waiting for it all to get fix. I dont even know if my old save works.
Its good I did dex sword saint in kingmaker with elven curved sword and it worked fine.
Why isnt there any evil looking mount? Good thing we got a fricking screenshot mode for EE, but Lich still cant ride a skeletal horse and a demon cant ride a hellhound. I feel my RP rights being infringed on.
Im very conflicted on doing a spellcaster or melee angel. I mean if you go pure spells basically you trash the sword of the angel ability which is good, but the combined spellbook gives you a lot of advantages. But i really don't want to do again another melee character.
nevermind the sword, zap everything with bolts of justice
Both as battle oracle.
>Father - Commander
>Mother - Nocticula
>Daughter - Ember
>Grandma - Areelu
I love ember (not only cause she is cute as frick and i have a thick for helping kids) but the fact that is not just goodevil with her. I tought "why do i have law options?". Full law ember is fricking awesome, i didn't know what i was doing but i'm glad i did it.
>Grandma Areelu
>when she already has a Grandma
Anon...
>no Nocticula redemption romance
>no shared custody of Ember
Wenduag is shit, I want a real "I can fix her" romance
>I want a real "I can fix her" romance
Play or replay origins
no matter how shit Bioware is now, I will always respect them for blatantly shilling their purification fetish in all their RPGs
>Purification
>NWN
where
Aribeth?
>Corruption and purification in one package
Oh yeah. I can't avert my eyes from Nathyrra everythime I think of NWN. b***h gave me spider fever.
>can't hunt her down in the swarm path and devour her
Wasted potential.
>Level 17 Nenio with greater enduring spells and spell specialization (improved invisibility) casts extended improved invisibility with phantasmal staff equipped
>+3 CL from staff +2 from SS +3 from aeon gaze
>Check duration
>4:36 min
>That's level 21
Where is my 24h invisibility you dumb dog?
did you multiclass and lose CL?
Nope. But I am using tabletop tweaks and dark codex. I think they probably messed with the spell level math somehow.