If they follow the formula and gameplay, it could be okay. Kojima is his worst enemy. Sure he makes interesting wacky stories, but after MGS3 it's more of an annoyance than a welcome feature.
At this point I would love a more straight forward story, I mean there's a reason MGS3 is the fan favorite.
>I mean there's a reason MGS3 is the fan favorite.
MGS3 is the fan favorite because of the gameplay, not the straight forward story. MGS2 is pretty much agreed upon to be the best story at this point now that people have given more thought in retrospect and no longer just feel burned by getting Raiden instead of Snake.
> MGS2 is pretty much agreed upon to be the best story
People mostly just meme about the "it predicted the future, it was all a simulation!!!!!" stuff. MGS3 had a way better overall story, writing and characters.
i don't think that's the case, i think it's the case for mgsv only since it had to run on ps3 as well (while still looking as good as it did). Like the other guy said, pes uses fox engine but has a lot of characters on screen at all times
I have very low expectations, if they are using UE5 and keep loyal to the original models or copy the ones from the Pachinko then I will have some hope, but I feel like Konami choose Virtuous out of necessity rhather than skill and if this is their first in studio game development (they only help studios make games they've never created anything on their own) then I honestly think it will either be completely shit or best case scenario have pretty graphics while not maintaining the insane amount of detail that the original had (on the top of my head the ability to capture animals and throw them at your enemy).
I'm pessimistic, but I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
It will be neither of them, Fox Engine was confirmed to be too hard to use, and Blue Point aren't the ones making the remake.
It's these guys: https://youtu.be/bWjDzBrmveo?t=85 notice the MGS art book in the desk, they've been the ones rumoured to be making it since Andy Robinson leaked it years ago.
The company was founded in China, the headquarters are currently in Singapore, they have a bunch of offices all over the world, as of now is currently unknown whether one specific area is developing the game or it's a team effort between the 21 offices.
>runs on potato machines
Le epic maymay that you read from someone and youre just repeating what they said.
Anyway, heres why mgsv runs on a toaster.
>bad folliage (literally ps2 tier) >bad draw distance >bad textures >only main characters have high quality texture and polygons >only around 10 enemies can be rendered on screen at the time >mediocre particle effects
>fox engine is god like for what it is
a half baked abomination that somehow doesn't accomplish half the things you'd expect? >nothing resembling a faction system, (not reputations, but something as basic as morons shoot whites, wolves eat sheep) enemies can only shoot at you >only soldiers can interact with the world, civillians exists to sit on the floor and be molested >AI braindead, blind, unable to establish causality between events, cannot provide first aid to allies or operate as anything resembling a squad >300 meter render range beyond which everything is disabled >the AI is a hivemind connected to a great command post in the sky
[...] >runs great on potato machines >rendering a flat open desert/savannah with NOTHING in it but the player is an amazing feat of programming
Ive spent hundreds of hours messing with MGSV, i know where they cut corners to make the game run on weak toasters.
Its not the engine being strong, its them downgrading the game as much as posdible.
If the game had good graphics that werent hidden by blur shaders then it would run just as any other game if not worse.
You dont know wtf you are talking about hence why just regurgitate "FOX enGinE iS a WoNdeR" meme without providing any actual argument.
Are you gonna tell me why i am wrong or are just just honna pretend to be retarded?
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retards will be retards even 10 years after the fact
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>Ive spent hundreds of hours messing with MGSV
holy mental illness batman. Imagine wasting hundreds of hours of your life on that garbage game hahahaahahha
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you might need to see a doctor anon
MGO3 is fun
1 week ago
Anonymous
Damn this post is like reading youtube video commentary
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you might need to see a doctor anon
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Anonymous
>You dont know wtf you are talking about hence why just regurgitate "FOX enGinE iS a WoNdeR" meme without providing any actual argument.
>fox engine is god like for what it is
a half baked abomination that somehow doesn't accomplish half the things you'd expect? >nothing resembling a faction system, (not reputations, but something as basic as morons shoot whites, wolves eat sheep) enemies can only shoot at you >only soldiers can interact with the world, civillians exists to sit on the floor and be molested >AI braindead, blind, unable to establish causality between events, cannot provide first aid to allies or operate as anything resembling a squad >300 meter render range beyond which everything is disabled >the AI is a hivemind connected to a great command post in the sky
>runs on potato machines
I can't believe retards still parrot this absolute nonsense. What the fuck is wrong with you? It runs completely averagely.
>runs great on potato machines >rendering a flat open desert/savannah with NOTHING in it but the player is an amazing feat of programming
I forgot the amazing guns that only have 4 calibers >pistol >back >shotgun >BIG boolet
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The rockets guns also convert little damage the first metal gear battle is awful cos you have this crappy rocket and you do little damage it takes ages to beat
>lets compare a ps3 game!! with a hd remaster!!
you complete idiot
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That isn't a HD remaster you dumbass.
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you are so off your head m8
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Anonymous
The HD remaster is on PS3, you stupid fucking retard.
So is MGSV at its lowest you dumb ape.
Regardless of the picture being original or HD remaster your point is invalid as its for the same platform.
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and you are still comparing a hd remaster! to a ps3 game
how fucking dense are you? this is a rhetorical question
1 week ago
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HD remaster of a PS2 game meant for PS3
to a PS3 game.
How retarded are you?
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and you are still comparing a hd remaster! to a ps3 game
how fucking dense are you? this is a rhetorical question
It's the ps2 version.
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that's even more embarassing for the absolute state of MGSV
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Guy stfu, you clearly have no idea wtf youre talking about
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The HD remaster is on PS3, you stupid fucking retard.
So is MGSV at its lowest you dumb ape.
Regardless of the picture being original or HD remaster your point is invalid as its for the same platform.
Your point is still invalid though, the PS2 grass still looks better than the MGSV grass does. Sure the HD remaster is at a higher resolution but the MGS3 grass at 720p looks better than the MGSV grass does in 4k so what's your point?
It's not like the blades of grass were graphically enhanced in any way on the HD remaster, its literally just a higher res
In all fairness hiding in grass isn't as essential as in MGS3 due to the shift in general playstyle but you really can't please autists. Plus it's literally on PS3 of course it's going to look like shit since it's a new game on a dying platform. Here's how it actually looks on PC. MGS3 is a less demanding game so of course it looks more cohesive. Is literacy and context that hard for anons, it's almost like you people purposefully avoid obvious points.
EVA will be heavily censored and I don't expect that Raikov part to make it
I think it's funny how Volgin actually has more personality than the boring gays netflix makes
>EVA will be heavily censored
What makes you say that? Sure it's a game made in 202x but it doesn't necessarily mean she'll be completely censored. Btw redesigns are NOT censorship coomer.
It will be mediocre but journalists will consider it a 10/10 because they have been told that Snake Eater was great even though they have never played it.
Realistically in which ways could it improve. If you ask me:
Graphically I think it would be worse by default since the art style would get botched.
Audio wise it was already really good so I don't see how that could improve.
Voice acting will undoubtedly be worse.
The gameplay was fine and giving the game MGSV's control scheme wouldn't really improve anything, it would just be easier.
I think it would have less content because it'd be missing the Ape Escape and vampire minigame.
I guess they could make a new MGO. If they gave it MGS4's gameplay that would be cool.
only thing they can do is streamline the survival viewer. it was the one thing that killed immersion for me.
i got used to it and played the game multiple times.
>only thing they can do is streamline the survival viewer.
You mean the thing that took up like maybe 4 minutes of a playthrough?
Realistically in which ways could it improve. If you ask me:
Graphically I think it would be worse by default since the art style would get botched.
Audio wise it was already really good so I don't see how that could improve.
Voice acting will undoubtedly be worse.
The gameplay was fine and giving the game MGSV's control scheme wouldn't really improve anything, it would just be easier.
I think it would have less content because it'd be missing the Ape Escape and vampire minigame.
I guess they could make a new MGO. If they gave it MGS4's gameplay that would be cool.
only thing they can do is streamline the survival viewer. it was the one thing that killed immersion for me.
i got used to it and played the game multiple times.
MGS2 and MGS3 are stuck in a weird position where they use pressure sensitive buttons for critical actions within the game.
Its why the controls suck in The Twin Snakes. They had to try and adapt a game that was designed around pressure sensitive buttons to a console that didn't support that feature.
>Voice acting >audio
I don't understand why demake devs insist on rerecording everything. It's not like MGS1 situations, where the voice work was literally done in an apartment, are common. Especially now that you can "remaster" audio with AI now.
I was thinking about this today. My greatest fear is that the campy James Bond elements will be scrubbed from the game entirely since today’s kids only know the edgy Craig Bond. If they remove the Snake Eater theme I will blow my head off with a shotgun and mail my brains to Konami, hell I might just do it anyway
You play as Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. Not only that, but the character model for Snake in MGS3 is made to look like Solid Snake and NOT a young Big Boss. The real events of Operation Snake Eater in 1964 were never depicted in their actuality, and were only interpreted in the VR system Solid Snake was accessing during the events of MGS3 (likely taking place after Sons of Liberty but before GotP, probably after Snake and Raiden rescued Sunny) and that 1964 operation was described in passing in MGS4, Peace Walker and MGSV using screenshots from MGS3 as artist depictions (remember the posters of MGS1 and MGS3 in Big Mama's church?).
All this makes sense when doing anything in MGS3 that fucks with the established events later in the series results in a time paradox by Colonel Campbell, Solid Snake's commanding officer in the VR mode. Further proof is the existence of the Snake vs. Monkey minigame included in the original MGS3, in which Solid Snake accesses more scenarios using the same assets intended to recreate Operation SE repurposed for joke missions.
Also in MGS4's final fight against Ocelot, when the battle enters the MGS3 phase Snake is referred to as "Naked Snake".
The first Big Boss game was actually Peace Walker. This also implies that the upcoming MGS3 remake could depict the events of Operation SE in their actuality for the first time by removing all traces of Solid Snake in the game and including new scenes not in the original PS2 game.
Further proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WglbJo7UVE
Solid Snake's model in this trailer for MGS4 was identical to the one in MGS3. Snake Eater's protagonist IS Solid Snake after the events of Sons of Liberty!
Even if any of this were true, do you honestly think that Konami gives a single fuck about Kojima's storytelling? Do you think they would ever care what is or isn't a VR simulation? No. Your headcanon is irrelevant at this point.
Which is of course why BB's personality is so completely different from that of Solid Snake, and why of course a post-MGS2 Solid Snake would be making errors that he already had no trouble with earlier in his life (like dealing with traitorous COs who happen to be a family member). It aaaaaaall makes sense.
Fuck off Caramel.
Isn't this confirmed to be a mid budget remake by some literally who Japanese studio? And watch the SEXOOO moments get removed, i didn't care about that in RE4 but it'll make me seethe, mald and dilate in this case.
>No Eva cleavage >No Eva dressing as Snake enters >No half naked Eva tempting Snake as he eats a Snake >No Snake staring at Evas boobs >No Ocelot touching Evas boobs (both times) >No Eva proctitis (anal sex) easter egg >No Eva breast augmentation easter egg
I hope it never gets remade
It would be retarded since EVA's theme was about she being temptation, besides there is a moment where you press r1 to look at her eyes not her boobs, since the game tells you she is more than a beautiful body
I hate this new trend, the original mgs trilogy really deserves a good remake. one so it finally becomes accessible on PC properly (since emu is janky for 2 and 3), two so they get to fix the horrendous control scheme of the originals
Isn't this the national anthem?
How can you be this drunk before the game even starts? >tailgating
Still hard to get this drunk in the span of an hour or so.
They're working on a remaster collection, too. But MGS3 is the flagship, kinda like SH2R which will also be getting a new trailer at the Sony showcase.
The only thing I'd be interested in is a big budget MGS1 remake. You'd have a lot to build on just by redesigning the levels and encounters for a modern third person camera and control scheme. For MGS2 and 3, the only thing that should be done is increasing graphical fidelity, which is never enough for modern remake devs and they'll change half the game just because they can.
>Then just make a whole ass new one
I think Konami removed the Metal Gear team and reallocated them to Castlevania, then brought in outside companies to do Metal Gear... all because you people didn't buy Survive.
No disrespect intended, anon. I bought Survive. You bought Survive. Plenty of us brought Survive. But a bunch of people devoted a lot of time and energy to getting people to NOT buy Survive because... they were angry that the people who made the other MGS games were being allowed to make a spinoff.
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Personally I just never played it because it was marketed as more of a multiplayer always online experience, which I have no interest in.
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What's sad is that it's still got a single player that's okay but has nonexistant character writing, but it's also always-online. If it weren't for that, I know so many peeps that would try it.
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Yes, there were a lot of silly lies that prevented Survive from having a proper place as an okay spinoff that was fun to play despite its issues. Most still don't even know it's still a stealth game, or they believe it's a survival game because of how Health/Stamina max regen was labeled. I agree with your sentiment 100%, I will just not be called a Survive skipper
No disrespect intended, anon. I bought Survive. You bought Survive. Plenty of us brought Survive. But a bunch of people devoted a lot of time and energy to getting people to NOT buy Survive because... they were angry that the people who made the other MGS games were being allowed to make a spinoff.
Personally I just never played it because it was marketed as more of a multiplayer always online experience, which I have no interest in.
Yes, there were a lot of silly lies that prevented Survive from having a proper place as an okay spinoff that was fun to play despite its issues. Most still don't even know it's still a stealth game, or they believe it's a survival game because of how Health/Stamina max regen was labeled. I agree with your sentiment 100%, I will just not be called a Survive skipper
What's sad is that it's still got a single player that's okay but has nonexistant character writing, but it's also always-online. If it weren't for that, I know so many peeps that would try it.
survive is a lot of fun
i just wish the coop had more players...
I just want them to port it all to PC. If they finally use the Pachinko assets for a remaster then I'd be cool with that too.
I don't want it remade, though.
Not even secondaries, MGSV schizos and trannies, as well as twitter tards who never played MGS because it's an icky moron game for incel schoolshooters, or it's ackshully an iconic LGBTQIABRAAAAPPP2S+ franchise becuase there's a russian ass rapist villain.
Companies realized they are essentially making the same games as before with QOL updates. Why not capitalize on it?
- the core gameplay is true and tested
- zoomies will play it because they don't know better
- journalists will praise them because of the accessibility options
- haters will be soft on these games because of nostalgia
- ~~*they*~~ get the chance to erase "problematic" scenes, characters and add what they like
>- the core gameplay is true and tested
They're completely replacing the gameplay, just like SH2 is doing. It's likely gonna be a streamlined take on MG Survive, since MG Survive's design ideas originally came from MGS3.
>mgs3 but instead of actual levels it's just a big empty map with a jungle skin slapped on it and random outposts that you just ignore >this is what people want
Probably the only way to do a decent remake, the originals pacing and level are integral to the experience and any small changes to gameplay will just fuck it up, like twin snakes but on steroids. Might as well not even try and do a new thing. Even if it will ultimatly be worse than the original.
Granted GZ is what TPP should have been, so there is potential.
I expect shit from a butt that people pretend is incredible, even better than the original, because now it looks "better" and has normal controls/camera. I also expect it to almost completely remove the codec. I don't see Konami wanting to spend the money on all that voice acting.
MGS3 is also the worst selling and worst of the original MGS series and is only praised because it's most baby's first MGS game.
>worst selling >most baby's first MGS game
How does that make sense? Surely it would be MGS2 for older fans, and TPP for zoomers?
Won't play it lol.
It is not objectively perfect. But for me it is, and no matter how illogical, I will dislike the remake no matter what and it's probably the only remake I'd ever be sour grapes about.
Ideas time. MGS always had the most autistic little bits in games that made it what it is. What kind of TECHNOLOGY can they bring to MGS3 with the modern tech?
>Konami fags
There are people who still defend that shitheap company? There are people who lived their older games but those people all recognize Konami is a shell of what it once was and that all of their favorite franchises are effectively dead. We've even seen what they do when they try to "revive" franchises with Contra and Bomberman so nobody even trusts them to not just shit out some low budget poorly made garbage. Konami fags don't fucking exist. Everyone hates them.
>There are people who still defend that shitheap company?
Yeah. Mostly out of some schizo need to dislike Kojima. Cause retards can only think in terms of Team A vs B.
>Nobody actually believes this is real, right?
Andy Robinson says it's real, and that's good enough for me. He's good people. Says that the game is aiming for a 2024 release, was meant to be revealed at E3 2023, but will likely be moved to the Sony Showcase. They're also working on a new Castlevania that might also be shown at the showcase.
Stupid braindead gorilla moron, get euthanised immediately >trusting some angloid subhuman video game journalists who literally throws shit at the wall and screams with glee and joy when it happens to stick
Liked his prediction of a big announcement for E3 that was shitcanned in its entirety.
Speaking of MGS music, I had completely memory holed this thing.
What the hell happened to Kojima during the PW era?
>What the hell happened to Kojima during the PW era?
he started giving a shit and wanted to make a genuine metal gear game without being coerced into it because his friend who actually understood the themes of the games was dying to cancer.
That's why peace walker credits have >dedicated to loving memory of Project Itoh
>Liked his prediction of a big announcement for E3 that was shitcanned in its entirety.
Konami couldn't exactly control E3 being cancelled, you dumb shit.
>Couldn't predict an event being cancelled
skill issue, he'll try the next one, big announcement won't happen, he'll say it's going to be the next one.
Gullible 70IQ subhuman cattle like yourself will get hyped but forget day after it doesn't happen.
Anon, you do realize we have Konami's leaked documents and shit, right?
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You have a leaking anus that cannot close properly due to damage caused by repeatedly shoving things into it and Intelligence Quotient too low to realize that you're doing free advertisement either for a gaming journalist, or a large corporation.
At least ask your boyfriend to give you money.
What do you retards even gain from peddling rumors?
Subhuman trash like andy robinson and other gays at least get 3 cents per click on their worthless websites so they can stave off eviction and suicide for a bit longer.
Want to bet money? people who deny this is happening are genuinely retarded, rumors are obviously fake when there's only 1 source, but there's multiple sources now, not only that, the sources are saying it will be announced in a conference that's a few days away.
Use common sense, why would anyone risk their reputation on a rumor that will be confirmed or debunked in a few days.
Because it doesn't matter, nobody loses reputation, rumors are forgotten the moment they don't come true so you move onto the next one.
You didn't notice the flow of triple AAA remakes of 10+ years old games for years now? It is one of the most believable rumors. Making a new MGS without Kojima is suicide but not doing anything with it is leaving a lot of money on the table. Remaking an older one is easy money, because the difference is so big by default it makes it look like a great effort.
It's basically confirmed, Andy Robinson is 100% sure it's being shown at the conference and he was right about the Silent Hill remakeS he leaked it 2 years ago.
People do even though we’ve been lied to twice about MGS games. We were lied about an MGS1 remake and MGR sequel. Suddenly people believe that Snake Eater of all games is gonna get a remake? What? That’s fucking retarded.
Just woke up.
Was the remake announced or it's just rumors?
Why the hell would they remake MGS3 and not MG1, MG2 or MGS1? (even tho MGS1 doesn't need a remake)
Oh wait, cashgrab...
One change I would welcome is making it so you don't have to go into menus to switch camouflage, but chances are they'll just remove the mechanic of switching what you're wearing altogether, or make it purely cosmetic.
I expect shit from a butt that people pretend is incredible, even better than the original, because now it looks "better" and has normal controls/camera. I also expect it to almost completely remove the codec. I don't see Konami wanting to spend the money on all that voice acting.
MGS3 is also the worst selling and worst of the original MGS series and is only praised because it's most baby's first MGS game.
>I also expect it to almost completely remove the codec. I don't see Konami wanting to spend the money on all that voice acting.
They'll replace it with audio tapes.
>TTS was comfy >never played PO >4 was nice but I fucked up the stealth due to low framerates on the emulator >PW and TPP are the same game >GZ was good but Kojimbo fucked us over and didn't finish TPP.
I have never played a Metal Gear game and probably never will, but I just dropped by to say that this song is one of my favorite songs of all time and I'm glad the series exists despite not being interesting to me at all. I hope you guys get a good game this time. xo
I wonder if Konami made him double down on selling the series in Japan, of if Kojima just did his classic of wanting to fuck some (voice)actress and simped them into the game.
Peace Walker is a good game if you forget it's a MGS, I actually really enjoyed it, the tapes are also far better than the Codec calls in MGS 4 or the tapes of V
It's incredible for a PSP game. It's mostly just the story that's pretty shit.
>I wonder if Konami made him double down on selling the series in Japan,
I don't really recall exactly when PW came out in the PSP's lifecycle, but I imagine both Sony and Konami knew that it wasn't doing overly well outside of Japan. In time to change the trajectory of PW's development? Dunno, but I can't imagine that if they knew they'd do nothing about it.
Peace Walker is a good game if you forget it's a MGS, I actually really enjoyed it, the tapes are also far better than the Codec calls in MGS 4 or the tapes of V
PW was the way it was because his son wanted to play MonHun instead, so Kojimbles in his magnanimity of daddy issues decided to pander to his son. Honestly a pretty logical next step after 4 in just about every way - oversized arsenal in 4 lends itself to MonHun type shit, and the shameless coomer shit (BB corps) flows pretty naturally into not only Paz, but also the implied yuri shit smeared all throughout PW
As Twin Snaked showed us, MGS1 has to be recreated entirely from scratch into a new game that has more or less nothing in common with the original other than story. With MGS3, you at least has a base to work from.
That said, if the game is still a full on remake with new levels and shit, it's retarded.
It's the one that's more likely to be a success, if money is the goal MGS3 is the safest option.
Also a safe bet since all the zoomers have only played TTP so they have no connection to the "modern era" games.
yeah, just like MGSV demon edition, remember that?
Right after MGS1 remake by bluepoint teased in Demon's Souls remake
have a nice day.
Robinson leaked 2 years ago that Konami was outsourcing their IPs : Silent Hill for a new game and a remake of SH2, Castlevania and MGS 3 remake.
The Silent Hill games have already been confirmed, MGS is next.
Want to bet money? people who deny this is happening are genuinely retarded, rumors are obviously fake when there's only 1 source, but there's multiple sources now, not only that, the sources are saying it will be announced in a conference that's a few days away.
Use common sense, why would anyone risk their reputation on a rumor that will be confirmed or debunked in a few days.
Temporary clout makes sense for a youtuber who has 100 subscribers, not already succesful industry insiders, the person who has such a low IQ to make such a short term decisions wouldn't get anywhere in the industry.
You have a leaking anus that cannot close properly due to damage caused by repeatedly shoving things into it and Intelligence Quotient too low to realize that you're doing free advertisement either for a gaming journalist, or a large corporation.
At least ask your boyfriend to give you money.
What do you retards even gain from peddling rumors?
Subhuman trash like andy robinson and other gays at least get 3 cents per click on their worthless websites so they can stave off eviction and suicide for a bit longer.
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Because it doesn't matter, nobody loses reputation, rumors are forgotten the moment they don't come true so you move onto the next one.
>pure luck
Pure fucking misfortune and careless use of kotodama. >here's a silent hill 2 remake, done by polish monkeys who never made a single good game, adjusted for modern audiences
>So do you think the SH leaks were pure luck?
It was throwing shit at a wall >Konami Game X(Metal Gear/Silent Hill) will be announced at event Y(E3, TGS, TGA, AVN, Gay Interracial Chemsex Orgy, whatever)
and eventually it stuck.
Open world MGS3. Coms towers to uncover areas. Can capture bugs to use for cooking for health. New network of caves and tunnels. Outposts like MGSV with mini-bosses like tanks.
It emulates fine. Just download the xof guys modded ps3 emu file. I just finished it like 40 mins ago, had maybe one crash the whole time and that was because I was too lazy to tweak one setting on my pc.
They are "back" but it will never be like before, all their IPs are theirs in name and profits only, other companies in completely different continents will be making their games for them.
The company is souless, even more than Capcom, they will continue to make remakes and stay alive from their glory 20 years ago.
Say what you want about Kojimbo, but he's not a corp, he actually loves the process of making games and coming up with crazy ideas, Konami doesn't have anyone that can replace that to continue making MGS games, the same can be said about Konami's other IPs and their original teams.
>Konami doesn't have anyone that can replace that to continue making MGS games, the same can be said about Konami's other IPs and their original teams.
What do you mean? They have the original Metal Gear team. Like, a massive studio with over a hundred developers. But they're likely making the new Castlevania instead.
Kojima, Shinkawa and a some of his most loyal collaborators left.
Grunts are worthless without the command, they might as well be a completely new team.
Without Kojima's retarded ideas and Shinkawa's designs it just will never feel like MGS.
Where exactly did people get the idea that Konami don't have the Metal Gear team? Did they not play Survive? How can you be this out of touch with reality?
Delusion that Metal Gear was written, directed, produced, programmed, modelled, balanced and play tested by Hideki Kojangles and voiced by David Hayter.
It comes from the fact that people use their brains and know that things will never be the same if the head is severed. A bunch of programmers and map designers aren't why MGS is popular.
It's like people who pretend that the Dune series continued after 1985, survive was proof of the incompetence of the team without the heads guiding them.
>A bunch of programmers and map designers aren't why MGS is popular.
Who said anything about programmers and map designers? We're talking directors, cutscene designers, writers, that sort of thing. The people who made Portable Ops and the OG version of Rising are running formerly Kojima Productions now. That's why Survive is so Rising-like.
Without Kojima and his goofy shit. They need to just have snake go on random espionage missions that may or may not loosely tie into the overall metal gear plot. Keep his goofy ass personality, but drop all the other stuff. Let someone do their own thing with the character.
I'd play it, but a MGS3 remake is quite literally the most boring revival of Metal Gear I can imagine.
What made the series fun is that it had big BALLS. I have my problems with Kojima, but I've always respected him for having the guts to just say "FUCK YOU THIS IS MY FRANCHISE I CAN DO WHAT I WANT WITH IT.". You got weird curve balls like Raiden in MGS2, Rising made by Platinum, Acid Card Game, Monster Hunter Peace Walker, Open World in MGSV etc; even if you didn't like it you could respect it for having BALLS. I wasn't big on Survive, but at least it was something different.
A MGS3 remake feels very safe and predictable unless they just go fullblown Evangelion rebuild with it, but FFVII remake is already kind of doing that so that idea isn't even particularly fresh anymore.
Yeah, it’s the easiest choice. I don’t think a lot of creators realize how hard a continuous story over a bunch of sequels is until they’re there and caught between a rock and a hard spot. It’s even compounded when you’re in a situation like mgs where the original creators aren’t even around anymore or have any input on the story. Kojimas gone, the easiest compromise is to keep snake, let him be the guy we all love, but put him in a new environment and setting.
Where exactly did people get the idea that Konami don't have the Metal Gear team? Did they not play Survive? How can you be this out of touch with reality?
Delusion that Metal Gear was written, directed, produced, programmed, modelled, balanced and play tested by Hideki Kojangles and voiced by David Hayter.
>Do you know what kojima productions is noob?
Yea, it's Production Department 8 at Konami. They were renamed well before MGS V shipped. They're sometimes referred to internally as "ex-Kojima Productions". They had some departures and restructuring, but they team that shipped MGS V is the same team that made Survive and whatever that team is now doing.
Your replies read like a commie, proles aren't anything of value, they are there to follow orders, who gives the orders defines what the product will be like.
>A bunch of programmers and map designers aren't why MGS is popular.
Who said anything about programmers and map designers? We're talking directors, cutscene designers, writers, that sort of thing. The people who made Portable Ops and the OG version of Rising are running formerly Kojima Productions now. That's why Survive is so Rising-like.
All of those are Grunts, and even tho the majority stayed, of each one of those sectors many left with Kojima, probably his most loyal ones, he wouldn't have been able to start Kojima Productions otherwise, and the proof of that is how Death Stranding is more like MGS V than Survive was.
Japanese people are loyal the the company they serve, but they are also loyal the the man they serve, which is why again, his most loyal collaborators left with him.
>Your replies read like a commie, proles aren't anything of value, they are there to follow orders, who gives the orders defines what the product will be like.
You do realise these people made other MGS games just fine without Kojima, right?
Yes, PO and Rising, 2 games which quality (other than gameplay) are lower than the other entries in the series, the only spin-off that is of the same quality as Kojima's MGS is Ghost Babel.
You can cope all you want, but workers are nothing without their leaders, no matter how much Marx you read about "seizing the means of production" will change the fact that without the same leader the product will never be the same, ESPECIALLY when arguably the most important of them, the ones who communicated the most with Kojima and were the ones who gave shape to his retarded ideas, left the company.
Proles are subhuman.
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Anonymous
I hate to say this, anon, but they've handed MGS3 remake to a bunch of Canadians and they're going to BTFO Kojima's entire gameography.
(Although I kinda wonder if people from Konami are supervising.)
1 week ago
Anonymous
Bet all the money is going to there bank account and they will have to get the game to have updates from a 3rd party this is going to be like gta remakes. You cant trust indians
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Anonymous
was PO really that bad? PW (and by extension the franchise's swan song, V) was wholly built on top of the foundation that that game laid out. storywise it tied itself back to the larger series back then way better than PW and V did too with Campbell, Null and FOXHOUND compared to lmao 2bigbosses
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Anonymous
POs story mogs the shit out of PW and V and the OST was pretty much the best in the series. It's not a bad game, it's just MGS2/3 on the PSP gameplay wise(meaning that part isn't great).
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Anonymous
MGR was a better sequel to MGS2 than MGS4 too as far as world building and character development go. Shit, every MGS game that had Kojima go full retard were never all that good, that bro needs a tard wrangler.
Death Stranding was alright though, the few MGS parts with del Toro and Driver guy were cool and felt like a return to form.
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Rising is phenomenally well made though, while Ghost Babel is absolute dogshit on every level but the graphics. Surely you're just baiting, right?
Yeah. This is where the real problem lies. You could literally write snake as snake, just how he was with kjp, but if everything else about the cast is completely off and doesn’t fit with him, it’s a wash. You’d think this stuff would be common sense for a lot of writers, but we’re in this weird timeline where current day creators are incapable of removing their ego from the characters they write and a fictional character just ends up being a soapbox for a bunch a shit that doesn’t make for a good story and just shits all over a beloved ip/Franchise.
MGS3 got >3rd person camera >Metal Gear Online >Peace Walker controls >retroactively made itself the single most important title of the franchise in-universe >now getting a remake
where's the love for other MGSes? MGS2 literally has nothing despite being the best one
Your average remake fails to capture the little details of the original. Imagine a game like MGS3 known for the absurd amount of small details, they’re going to ignore a majority of them. It’s going to be one of the most hated remakes ever, it’ll redefine soullessness
One thing that bothers me about 5 is the water barrels. You shoot the bottom part water falls out. You shoot the top part after all the water fallout water still fallout. Mgs 2 had small details.
>being made by Virtuos the Chinese developer >staff consists of people who did art work for horizon zero dawn and the last of us part 2 which is what made Konami contract them for the remake >mgs3 is being remade in the Decima engine under PS studios. Will launch as a PS5 exclusive, PC to come a few months later. Xbox not even being considered >aiming for extreme photorealism with the foliage and characters. When in first person view while sneaking, the player can see in the grass tiny bugs and animals crawling around. the team is aiming to make Big Boss the highest fidelity looking video game character ever made. >borrows gameplay from Horizon including stealth and melee combat. Snake can do large swinging kicks and punches. >camouflage, food, medicine are all returning but are now controlled in game instead of the pause menu. Codec calls also take place in game on the HUD, and will not pause the game during combat >level design is nearly 1:1 with a few changes as the team mainly consisted of graphical artists programmers and animators, with few actual level designers or creatives >no returning voice actors, Kojima will not be mentioned >snake eater will be sung by Sam smith.
Not my post, from Ganker leak larper, so take with a grain of salt obviously.
made by Virtuos the Chinese developer
I'm pretty sure it's being made by their Canadian/US branches. >>mgs3 is being remade in the Decima engine under PS studios. Will launch as a PS5 exclusive, PC to come a few months later. Xbox not even being considered
Nobody would use Decima Engine. Unreal Engine is a given. Still, you're just repeating what they said so no diss.
design is nearly 1:1 with a few changes as the team mainly consisted of graphical artists programmers and animators, with few actual level designers or creatives
This is impossible because MGS3's level design is hilariously narrow and restricted.
was PO really that bad? PW (and by extension the franchise's swan song, V) was wholly built on top of the foundation that that game laid out. storywise it tied itself back to the larger series back then way better than PW and V did too with Campbell, Null and FOXHOUND compared to lmao 2bigbosses
PO's story is a braindead drivel fanficiton that explains inane details like etymology of Frank Jaeger's name, the gameplay is MGS3 controls with half the buttons on a portable console, final boss fight is in cinematic 3 frames per second you see a guy called GENE yell memes at you and do phase shift from zoe. due to popular demand Sokolov makes an unexpected comeback
Whatever braindead nonesense poops comes out with is canonized in MGS4, but if you care about canon in MGS you're a certified midwit.
was PO really that bad? PW (and by extension the franchise's swan song, V) was wholly built on top of the foundation that that game laid out. storywise it tied itself back to the larger series back then way better than PW and V did too with Campbell, Null and FOXHOUND compared to lmao 2bigbosses
>storywise it tied itself back to the larger series back then way better than PW and V did too with Campbell, Null and FOXHOUND compared to lmao 2bigbosses
Wow, it did the exact thing MGS3 was set in the 60's in order to avoid, what an accomplishment, glad it exists to make the world suffocating and incestuous so that everything spanning over half a century revolves around the same dozen people.
Since they were forced to make more games, MGS3's finale twist obviously had to tie back into the story established up to that point but the way 4 and V went and did it were a bit too retarded for the exact same reason you brought up. poops was a lesser evil compared to everything that came after it.
1:1 remake is bad and they need to take liberties like capcom did with re4.
MGS3 total gameplay time without watching cutscenes totalizes close to only 5 hours. Thats really short. They need to increase gameplay by extending areas.
Also codec calls need to have a feature thay play as you are playing the game. If not that, codec calls need to be completely skipable and neglectable.
MGSV is a really awful game but the controls of your character are very tight. Using the FOX engine with the controls but it's MGS3 would make it better than the original imo. One of the rare remakes I want. REmake 2 was also great and REmake 3 would be great if they didn't cut half of the game out.
i expect it to not actually be a thing, because there's been a new mgs3 remake rumor every month or so for well over ten years.
i'm not falling for it until konami themselves make an official announcement, and even then i'd be skeptical towards whether the game would ever finish development or if it would be cancelled.
3 things, give me the real jungle instead of small linear corridors (this doesn't mean open world, just bigger stealth sandbox spaces), put everything that was cut from original mgs3 vision because shitty ps2 hw, kojima autism or lack of resources, bring back fukushima and make him the director.
If you expect this shit to be real just because some fat fucks on Twitter said so, you're a fucking dumbass. Accept that the franchise is over and let it go.
But why pass up on some easy cash? You got the survival horror genre which is niche and totally dominated by Resident Evil, churning out 5 to 15 million copies for Capcom per sequel. And then you got the stealth genre, which is basically dead right now, but Konami could easily rack up 10 million sales of MGS3R without even trying.
I don’t generally care all that much when they make female characters “less” sexy if it makes sense and if the character design from the beginning just felt like lazy coom bait. But Eva is literally supposed to be a 60s Bond girl, the whole point is that she’s a sexy spy.
If they change her to make her look more homely then they are actual retards
Inb4 they remove the torture scene, they will make eva and the boss way less sexy
Honestly dont remake 3...
I think that stuff like TLOU and RDR2 have made it normal for these kind of story games to have blood and gore in them, if anything I expect things to be more explicit and less cartoony, MGS V, the series last installment also had gore and more violence in it than normally and that's the audience they are probably trying to grab since it was a success.
About Eva, if the Chinks at the HQ of Virtuous are in control of this, I expect at least some sort of clevage to still be present, if this is in the hands of any Anglo offices then yes everything will be censored.
There are fags in it but they aren't exactly portrayed in a good light. Aside from being the comically evil villains, their male bislut ways are aggressive. If anything it might be removed.
>wouldnt it make sense to remake 1 and 2 first?
Nobody really cares about those games. MGS V is the only MGS game normies have played, and MGS3 can be remade into something resembling MGS V.
3's story is very standalone and also works as the first game chronologically. So future remakes like MGS1 would and could add more callbacks that the OG didn't have
I've been thinking about it for the last 9 years:
-Remaking 1 is kinda safe since it would probably sell a couple millions, but still a huge gamble, there's A LOT of changes that would need to be made to the map for it to work with more modern controls, and investing all that money and effort into something that maybe people would hate and cast the studio that's remaking it as evil isn't worth the risk
-2 is a huge risk for the same controversy of when it came out, Raiden isn't your average hero, he's whiny and immature, and half the game codec calls are him discussing his relationship problems, even if they remade 1 first and 2 after that it would have a likelyhood of tanking the studio again
- 3 is the best bet, it's the "newest" one of the trilogy, gameplay changes were already made to the 3DS version and it still worked, it's the fan favorite even tho it wasn't the best selling of the 3, and it's the most likely one to generate sales.
MGS 3 is the easiest to remake and safest to invest money into, if that is succesful they will probably try 1, and maybe later 2.
Reminder that Virtuous is a Studio that has never made a game entirely on their own, they usually only help studios with models and other stuff, this has to be a hit or their dreams of becoming a more recognized studio will probably tank, but again these are Chinks and Canadians we are talking about so we can't really trust their reasoning or quality of product.
I dropped the original since the gameplay was too outdated. IF they're making this in the vein of MGSV I am going to cum so fucking hard and I might even pay when it comes on PC.
The Fox Engine circlejerk is some of the most inane dumb shit I've ever seen online. There's nothing special about it whatsoever, it does open world games poorly, it is fucking blown the fuck out by Rockstar, even fucking ubisoft, the open world in Assassin's Creed 1 has way more detail and life to it than MGSV does.
What people mix up is game design, they think "oh emergent gameplay must mean the engine is good!" no it's just the fucking design of the game. The engine is nothing special whatsoever, it's fucking janky and buggy as shit and it was designed with hardware from 2005/6 in mind, of course it runs on your toaster, it was made with hardware from 2005 in mind
game engines are iterative so the fact it was designed for 2006 hw means very little, also if it's such a bad open world engine how come it can handle monstrously complex scripting in an open world environment and react open endedly to the player's actions
into the fucking trash pile it goes, you can't remake a masterpiece motherfuckers you can only demake it
screencap this post if you want and repost after release
MGS 3 is good, it's just not a typical Kojima game, it isn't really trying to convey any sort of deep message like his other games, it's just a GOO Bond game, but that doesn't make it "not good".
MGS 3 is good, it's just not a typical Kojima game, it isn't really trying to convey any sort of deep message like his other games, it's just a GOO Bond game, but that doesn't make it "not good".
MGS3 completely mogs all other MGS by a long mile in every category (arguably V had better basic controls). It only filters the people that expected Kojumbo and instead got a dadcore spy thriller with slim fantasy on top.
I wish they kept the design, cutscene direction and soundtrack from the original, there's no reason to replace any of it.
With controls and seamless, expanded levels it might be perfect.
I sincerely hope it isn't a 1:1 remake, I hope they go way bigger with the jungle setting and don't even bother with accurately recreating areas. Say you can have a rope bridge but how the surrounding area looks can be completely different, obviously you'd still include smaller areas like Rassvet in the game but just redesign how they look, their surroundings, etc. If they just copy the original title it's going to feel lackluster. I love the original title but I'd rather play that then a remake that tries to copy it exactly
This game had unplayable controls and count lclunky gameplay when I tried it back in 2007. And it beared no resemblance to the first game. So I shut it off
If the remake makes MGS3 a over the shoulder sony walking simulator then its not worth it, unless they keep the game the exact same and update the visuals then I dont think its worth it.
No kojima so i expect that The Boss say "i am a strong woman, jack you are a weak white man" 7 or 8 times in the game
If they do a 1:1 with new gameplay, improved what the phantom pain do right and fixed what do wrong, then i ok with that
I really want the entire saga in steam, is a pain in ass to connect the ps3 to play 1-3 and guns of the patriot
He won't actually show up or be mentioned by name, but there will be some unsubtle reference to Skull Face being just off-screen the entire time.
Sigint will be a more important character, because black. He's not going to join the action or anything, but he'll have a bigger role than providing Tech Tips.
They'll ruin the ladder sequence because they know its meme status. They'll fuck it up by presenting the whole moment with too much theatricality and sweeping dramatic camera movement.
Girlboss Para-Medic
No Sutherland and no Hayter. They'll get a no name voice actor who can do a passable Sutherland impersonation.
Make a new fucking game and finish it this time
Imagine if the game is actually good and is better than the Kojima games
Literally impossible, the main trilogy will never be topped
If they follow the formula and gameplay, it could be okay. Kojima is his worst enemy. Sure he makes interesting wacky stories, but after MGS3 it's more of an annoyance than a welcome feature.
At this point I would love a more straight forward story, I mean there's a reason MGS3 is the fan favorite.
>I mean there's a reason MGS3 is the fan favorite.
MGS3 is the fan favorite because of the gameplay, not the straight forward story. MGS2 is pretty much agreed upon to be the best story at this point now that people have given more thought in retrospect and no longer just feel burned by getting Raiden instead of Snake.
> MGS2 is pretty much agreed upon to be the best story
People mostly just meme about the "it predicted the future, it was all a simulation!!!!!" stuff. MGS3 had a way better overall story, writing and characters.
It won't be Fox Engine, it'll be that shitty Bluepoint Engine.
Why did FOX die bros.
Konami hates Kojima so much they would prefer to burn everything he built then let him have a legacy.
the fox engine litterally could not model 11 or 12 npcs at a time without sperging out. This is why MGSV is empty. lmao. it was shit
the PES games do like 40+ characters on screen
what does that have to do with MGSV?
they used fox engine
i don't think that's the case, i think it's the case for mgsv only since it had to run on ps3 as well (while still looking as good as it did). Like the other guy said, pes uses fox engine but has a lot of characters on screen at all times
cause it was made by KOJIPRO for KOJIMA
Bluepoint aren't making it, it's Virtuous.
I have very low expectations, if they are using UE5 and keep loyal to the original models or copy the ones from the Pachinko then I will have some hope, but I feel like Konami choose Virtuous out of necessity rhather than skill and if this is their first in studio game development (they only help studios make games they've never created anything on their own) then I honestly think it will either be completely shit or best case scenario have pretty graphics while not maintaining the insane amount of detail that the original had (on the top of my head the ability to capture animals and throw them at your enemy).
I'm pessimistic, but I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Why are they like this?
It will be neither of them, Fox Engine was confirmed to be too hard to use, and Blue Point aren't the ones making the remake.
It's these guys: https://youtu.be/bWjDzBrmveo?t=85 notice the MGS art book in the desk, they've been the ones rumoured to be making it since Andy Robinson leaked it years ago.
Wait, they are western? No chance in hell it will be good then.
99% chance EVA will be wearing a burka or some shit.
The company was founded in China, the headquarters are currently in Singapore, they have a bunch of offices all over the world, as of now is currently unknown whether one specific area is developing the game or it's a team effort between the 21 offices.
I honestly do not have any hope.
>MGS3 remake will be chink shovelware
Anon, stop. You're making it worse.
>Montreal
Never mind it's gonna be french shit.
What if it turns out sniper wolf was really venom and quite baby or that venom raised wolf cos she reminds him of her.
I hate them so much bros.
>western devs
its over. poor game never had a chance.
FOX ENGINE WAS LITERALLY AN ENGINE BUILT FOR 2006 ERA HARDWARE. IT IS NOT A GOOD ENGINE YOU RETARDS
THE REASON IT RUNS ON TOASTERS IS BECAUSE IT WAS MADE FOR TOASTERS.
>IT IS NOT A GOOD ENGINE
here is where youre wrong
fox engine is god like for what it is
runs on potato machines
looks for that fact pretty gud
>runs on potato machines
Le epic maymay that you read from someone and youre just repeating what they said.
Anyway, heres why mgsv runs on a toaster.
>bad folliage (literally ps2 tier)
>bad draw distance
>bad textures
>only main characters have high quality texture and polygons
>only around 10 enemies can be rendered on screen at the time
>mediocre particle effects
just plain wrong
just plain fucking wrong
Ive spent hundreds of hours messing with MGSV, i know where they cut corners to make the game run on weak toasters.
Its not the engine being strong, its them downgrading the game as much as posdible.
If the game had good graphics that werent hidden by blur shaders then it would run just as any other game if not worse.
You dont know wtf you are talking about hence why just regurgitate "FOX enGinE iS a WoNdeR" meme without providing any actual argument.
Are you gonna tell me why i am wrong or are just just honna pretend to be retarded?
retards will be retards even 10 years after the fact
>Ive spent hundreds of hours messing with MGSV
holy mental illness batman. Imagine wasting hundreds of hours of your life on that garbage game hahahaahahha
MGO3 is fun
Damn this post is like reading youtube video commentary
you might need to see a doctor anon
>You dont know wtf you are talking about hence why just regurgitate "FOX enGinE iS a WoNdeR" meme without providing any actual argument.
>runs on potato machines
I can't believe retards still parrot this absolute nonsense. What the fuck is wrong with you? It runs completely averagely.
>fox engine is god like for what it is
a half baked abomination that somehow doesn't accomplish half the things you'd expect?
>nothing resembling a faction system, (not reputations, but something as basic as morons shoot whites, wolves eat sheep) enemies can only shoot at you
>only soldiers can interact with the world, civillians exists to sit on the floor and be molested
>AI braindead, blind, unable to establish causality between events, cannot provide first aid to allies or operate as anything resembling a squad
>300 meter render range beyond which everything is disabled
>the AI is a hivemind connected to a great command post in the sky
>runs great on potato machines
>rendering a flat open desert/savannah with NOTHING in it but the player is an amazing feat of programming
simply amazing graphics, grass worse than a ps2 game unironically
I forgot the amazing guns that only have 4 calibers
>pistol
>back
>shotgun
>BIG boolet
The rockets guns also convert little damage the first metal gear battle is awful cos you have this crappy rocket and you do little damage it takes ages to beat
>lets compare a ps3 game!! with a hd remaster!!
you complete idiot
That isn't a HD remaster you dumbass.
you are so off your head m8
The HD remaster is on PS3, you stupid fucking retard.
So is MGSV at its lowest you dumb ape.
Regardless of the picture being original or HD remaster your point is invalid as its for the same platform.
and you are still comparing a hd remaster! to a ps3 game
how fucking dense are you? this is a rhetorical question
HD remaster of a PS2 game meant for PS3
to a PS3 game.
How retarded are you?
It's the ps2 version.
that's even more embarassing for the absolute state of MGSV
Guy stfu, you clearly have no idea wtf youre talking about
Your point is still invalid though, the PS2 grass still looks better than the MGSV grass does. Sure the HD remaster is at a higher resolution but the MGS3 grass at 720p looks better than the MGSV grass does in 4k so what's your point?
It's not like the blades of grass were graphically enhanced in any way on the HD remaster, its literally just a higher res
>guys the grass! look the grass is sooo good!
No fire select for guns ether and you can shoulder and hip fire in mgs3 which you cant donington mgs4 also mgs4 gun sights are horrible
In all fairness hiding in grass isn't as essential as in MGS3 due to the shift in general playstyle but you really can't please autists. Plus it's literally on PS3 of course it's going to look like shit since it's a new game on a dying platform. Here's how it actually looks on PC. MGS3 is a less demanding game so of course it looks more cohesive. Is literacy and context that hard for anons, it's almost like you people purposefully avoid obvious points.
I expect all journalists to die of GRIDS complications but we can't expect god to do all the work.
EVA will be heavily censored and I don't expect that Raikov part to make it
I think it's funny how Volgin actually has more personality than the boring gays netflix makes
>EVA will be heavily censored
What makes you say that? Sure it's a game made in 202x but it doesn't necessarily mean she'll be completely censored. Btw redesigns are NOT censorship coomer.
ruined
It will be mediocre but journalists will consider it a 10/10 because they have been told that Snake Eater was great even though they have never played it.
I predict it will be inferior to the original game.
Realistically in which ways could it improve. If you ask me:
Graphically I think it would be worse by default since the art style would get botched.
Audio wise it was already really good so I don't see how that could improve.
Voice acting will undoubtedly be worse.
The gameplay was fine and giving the game MGSV's control scheme wouldn't really improve anything, it would just be easier.
I think it would have less content because it'd be missing the Ape Escape and vampire minigame.
I guess they could make a new MGO. If they gave it MGS4's gameplay that would be cool.
what the fuck is that video
MGS if he real
>only thing they can do is streamline the survival viewer.
You mean the thing that took up like maybe 4 minutes of a playthrough?
code?
>4 minutes of a playthrough
Absolutely not. It took up a sizable chunk of time and you know this.
remember how you can leave dirty magazines to lure guards?
also theres a man in the bush camouflaged
>theres a man in the bush camouflaged
...where
right behind you
only thing they can do is streamline the survival viewer. it was the one thing that killed immersion for me.
i got used to it and played the game multiple times.
MGS2 and MGS3 are stuck in a weird position where they use pressure sensitive buttons for critical actions within the game.
Its why the controls suck in The Twin Snakes. They had to try and adapt a game that was designed around pressure sensitive buttons to a console that didn't support that feature.
>Voice acting
>audio
I don't understand why demake devs insist on rerecording everything. It's not like MGS1 situations, where the voice work was literally done in an apartment, are common. Especially now that you can "remaster" audio with AI now.
>MGO
>MGS4 gameplay
Let me guess, you got your ass handed to you in mgo3 chud
I played it for like 1 minute(literally) and never came back. That wasn't MGO.
source of this clearly fake pic? I feel like doing a little trolling myself
nvm google was my friend
I was thinking about this today. My greatest fear is that the campy James Bond elements will be scrubbed from the game entirely since today’s kids only know the edgy Craig Bond. If they remove the Snake Eater theme I will blow my head off with a shotgun and mail my brains to Konami, hell I might just do it anyway
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
You play as Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. Not only that, but the character model for Snake in MGS3 is made to look like Solid Snake and NOT a young Big Boss. The real events of Operation Snake Eater in 1964 were never depicted in their actuality, and were only interpreted in the VR system Solid Snake was accessing during the events of MGS3 (likely taking place after Sons of Liberty but before GotP, probably after Snake and Raiden rescued Sunny) and that 1964 operation was described in passing in MGS4, Peace Walker and MGSV using screenshots from MGS3 as artist depictions (remember the posters of MGS1 and MGS3 in Big Mama's church?).
All this makes sense when doing anything in MGS3 that fucks with the established events later in the series results in a time paradox by Colonel Campbell, Solid Snake's commanding officer in the VR mode. Further proof is the existence of the Snake vs. Monkey minigame included in the original MGS3, in which Solid Snake accesses more scenarios using the same assets intended to recreate Operation SE repurposed for joke missions.
Also in MGS4's final fight against Ocelot, when the battle enters the MGS3 phase Snake is referred to as "Naked Snake".
The first Big Boss game was actually Peace Walker. This also implies that the upcoming MGS3 remake could depict the events of Operation SE in their actuality for the first time by removing all traces of Solid Snake in the game and including new scenes not in the original PS2 game.
Further proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WglbJo7UVE
Solid Snake's model in this trailer for MGS4 was identical to the one in MGS3. Snake Eater's protagonist IS Solid Snake after the events of Sons of Liberty!
Even if any of this were true, do you honestly think that Konami gives a single fuck about Kojima's storytelling? Do you think they would ever care what is or isn't a VR simulation? No. Your headcanon is irrelevant at this point.
Never post again, ever! Do you hear me?
worst post on Ganker
yep, even worse than the coomer azur lane threads and chud bait and console wars
>You play as Solid Snake
Why was he such a autistic retard in VR?
You also play as Raiden who is playing as Snake in the tanker incident of MGS2.
I only clicked on it cos the image was to small
Which is of course why BB's personality is so completely different from that of Solid Snake, and why of course a post-MGS2 Solid Snake would be making errors that he already had no trouble with earlier in his life (like dealing with traitorous COs who happen to be a family member). It aaaaaaall makes sense.
Fuck off Caramel.
all characters will be obese black trans women
Isn't this confirmed to be a mid budget remake by some literally who Japanese studio? And watch the SEXOOO moments get removed, i didn't care about that in RE4 but it'll make me seethe, mald and dilate in this case.
>Didn't even know a remake was announced
>Look it up
>PS5 exclusive
Oh, never mind then
>Didn't even know a remake was announced
because it wasn't
>No Eva cleavage
>No Eva dressing as Snake enters
>No half naked Eva tempting Snake as he eats a Snake
>No Snake staring at Evas boobs
>No Ocelot touching Evas boobs (both times)
>No Eva proctitis (anal sex) easter egg
>No Eva breast augmentation easter egg
I hope it never gets remade
It would be retarded since EVA's theme was about she being temptation, besides there is a moment where you press r1 to look at her eyes not her boobs, since the game tells you she is more than a beautiful body
>No Eva taking the knot in her dreams
They won't be able to get Kiefer Sutherland back, and will refuse to work with Hayter. So expect a Sutherland soundalike voice actor.
>another remake
Vax status?
Vaxst blue ribbon
please stop acting surprised, it's clearly the decade of remakes. Just shut up, yes trends are a thing, we all know.
Is "surprise" the implication you got from that?
I don’t think he meant surprised. I think he meant I SLEEP.
>People just want better graphics
>They add different controls and remoe. Shit
If kojima had his way all his mg games would be in one open world map.
i was expecting something to happen
I hate this new trend, the original mgs trilogy really deserves a good remake. one so it finally becomes accessible on PC properly (since emu is janky for 2 and 3), two so they get to fix the horrendous control scheme of the originals
Guy looks coherent, he probably just doesn't like standing for so long.
Isn't this the national anthem?
How can you be this drunk before the game even starts?
>tailgating
Still hard to get this drunk in the span of an hour or so.
I want a MGO1 remake. There weren't many of us back then but that the original MGO was so fucking fun.
You can play it on PC nowadays, both the PS2 and PS3 versions.
Just port MGS3 to PC and be done with it. If they wanna make a new MGS game, make it a new game and not a remake.
They're working on a remaster collection, too. But MGS3 is the flagship, kinda like SH2R which will also be getting a new trailer at the Sony showcase.
Hope they port mgs1 and sh1 too
Actually I wonder why capcom wont bring their psx titles too
>Hope they port mgs1 and sh1 too
MGS1 is quite likely, although if they run into two many issues replacing it with The Twin Snakes is a possibility.
The only thing I'd be interested in is a big budget MGS1 remake. You'd have a lot to build on just by redesigning the levels and encounters for a modern third person camera and control scheme. For MGS2 and 3, the only thing that should be done is increasing graphical fidelity, which is never enough for modern remake devs and they'll change half the game just because they can.
Then just make a whole ass new one
>Then just make a whole ass new one
I think Konami removed the Metal Gear team and reallocated them to Castlevania, then brought in outside companies to do Metal Gear... all because you people didn't buy Survive.
>all because you people didn't buy Survive.
Bite me, moron
No disrespect intended, anon. I bought Survive. You bought Survive. Plenty of us brought Survive. But a bunch of people devoted a lot of time and energy to getting people to NOT buy Survive because... they were angry that the people who made the other MGS games were being allowed to make a spinoff.
Personally I just never played it because it was marketed as more of a multiplayer always online experience, which I have no interest in.
What's sad is that it's still got a single player that's okay but has nonexistant character writing, but it's also always-online. If it weren't for that, I know so many peeps that would try it.
Yes, there were a lot of silly lies that prevented Survive from having a proper place as an okay spinoff that was fun to play despite its issues. Most still don't even know it's still a stealth game, or they believe it's a survival game because of how Health/Stamina max regen was labeled. I agree with your sentiment 100%, I will just not be called a Survive skipper
survive is a lot of fun
i just wish the coop had more players...
Who the fuck actually wants a remake?
I just want them to port it all to PC. If they finally use the Pachinko assets for a remaster then I'd be cool with that too.
I don't want it remade, though.
I'm so fucking MGS starved dude, I'll take anything at this point.
zoomers and retards
Not even secondaries, MGSV schizos and trannies, as well as twitter tards who never played MGS because it's an icky moron game for incel schoolshooters, or it's ackshully an iconic LGBTQIABRAAAAPPP2S+ franchise becuase there's a russian ass rapist villain.
Companies realized they are essentially making the same games as before with QOL updates. Why not capitalize on it?
- the core gameplay is true and tested
- zoomies will play it because they don't know better
- journalists will praise them because of the accessibility options
- haters will be soft on these games because of nostalgia
- ~~*they*~~ get the chance to erase "problematic" scenes, characters and add what they like
>- the core gameplay is true and tested
They're completely replacing the gameplay, just like SH2 is doing. It's likely gonna be a streamlined take on MG Survive, since MG Survive's design ideas originally came from MGS3.
But what even needs to be changed? Simpler aiming and streamlined camo?
Everything. All the level design needs to be thrown out to reinvent it as a more Splinter Cell/Ubisoft style game like MGS V.
>mgs3 but instead of actual levels it's just a big empty map with a jungle skin slapped on it and random outposts that you just ignore
>this is what people want
If they make a game in the vein of Gorund Zeroes (tightly controlled scenarios but sandbox gameplay) it would fit.
Probably the only way to do a decent remake, the originals pacing and level are integral to the experience and any small changes to gameplay will just fuck it up, like twin snakes but on steroids. Might as well not even try and do a new thing. Even if it will ultimatly be worse than the original.
Granted GZ is what TPP should have been, so there is potential.
>worst selling
>most baby's first MGS game
How does that make sense? Surely it would be MGS2 for older fans, and TPP for zoomers?
Gay, don't care. The original is a masterpiece so there's absolutely no need to remake it
nothing but disappointment.
Won't play it lol.
It is not objectively perfect. But for me it is, and no matter how illogical, I will dislike the remake no matter what and it's probably the only remake I'd ever be sour grapes about.
can't wait to hear sutherland mumble two lines during the entire game while walking down some awesome, cinematic jungle hallways
Stop remaking everything you talentless zoomers
Stop falling for obvious bait. This isn't even real, holy shit.
Ideas time. MGS always had the most autistic little bits in games that made it what it is. What kind of TECHNOLOGY can they bring to MGS3 with the modern tech?
Nobody actually believes this is real, right?
Konami fags are retardedly desperate.
>Konami fags
There are people who still defend that shitheap company? There are people who lived their older games but those people all recognize Konami is a shell of what it once was and that all of their favorite franchises are effectively dead. We've even seen what they do when they try to "revive" franchises with Contra and Bomberman so nobody even trusts them to not just shit out some low budget poorly made garbage. Konami fags don't fucking exist. Everyone hates them.
>There are people who still defend that shitheap company?
Yeah. Mostly out of some schizo need to dislike Kojima. Cause retards can only think in terms of Team A vs B.
>Nobody actually believes this is real, right?
Andy Robinson says it's real, and that's good enough for me. He's good people. Says that the game is aiming for a 2024 release, was meant to be revealed at E3 2023, but will likely be moved to the Sony Showcase. They're also working on a new Castlevania that might also be shown at the showcase.
Stupid braindead gorilla moron, get euthanised immediately
>trusting some angloid subhuman video game journalists who literally throws shit at the wall and screams with glee and joy when it happens to stick
Liked his prediction of a big announcement for E3 that was shitcanned in its entirety.
>What the hell happened to Kojima during the PW era?
he started giving a shit and wanted to make a genuine metal gear game without being coerced into it because his friend who actually understood the themes of the games was dying to cancer.
That's why peace walker credits have
>dedicated to loving memory of Project Itoh
>Liked his prediction of a big announcement for E3 that was shitcanned in its entirety.
Konami couldn't exactly control E3 being cancelled, you dumb shit.
>Couldn't predict an event being cancelled
skill issue, he'll try the next one, big announcement won't happen, he'll say it's going to be the next one.
Gullible 70IQ subhuman cattle like yourself will get hyped but forget day after it doesn't happen.
Anon, you do realize we have Konami's leaked documents and shit, right?
You have a leaking anus that cannot close properly due to damage caused by repeatedly shoving things into it and Intelligence Quotient too low to realize that you're doing free advertisement either for a gaming journalist, or a large corporation.
At least ask your boyfriend to give you money.
What do you retards even gain from peddling rumors?
Subhuman trash like andy robinson and other gays at least get 3 cents per click on their worthless websites so they can stave off eviction and suicide for a bit longer.
Because it doesn't matter, nobody loses reputation, rumors are forgotten the moment they don't come true so you move onto the next one.
Any leaks regarding. Mgs games?
You didn't notice the flow of triple AAA remakes of 10+ years old games for years now? It is one of the most believable rumors. Making a new MGS without Kojima is suicide but not doing anything with it is leaving a lot of money on the table. Remaking an older one is easy money, because the difference is so big by default it makes it look like a great effort.
It's basically confirmed, Andy Robinson is 100% sure it's being shown at the conference and he was right about the Silent Hill remakeS he leaked it 2 years ago.
People do even though we’ve been lied to twice about MGS games. We were lied about an MGS1 remake and MGR sequel. Suddenly people believe that Snake Eater of all games is gonna get a remake? What? That’s fucking retarded.
You mean they're remaking metal gear slop 3, but why game is goyslop
Maybe they make it somewhat average compare to the shit metal 3
Take a break from four chins, anon. It's good for your mental health
Bad remake like with silent hill
Just woke up.
Was the remake announced or it's just rumors?
Why the hell would they remake MGS3 and not MG1, MG2 or MGS1? (even tho MGS1 doesn't need a remake)
Oh wait, cashgrab...
Well, it's the beginning of the story.
>it's just rumors?
its literal nobody twisting about it . That's how this place works
One change I would welcome is making it so you don't have to go into menus to switch camouflage, but chances are they'll just remove the mechanic of switching what you're wearing altogether, or make it purely cosmetic.
that guy has an awful accent and you should feel bad
Not happening, and if it somehow does it will be absolute shit with no MGO.
its going to be a demake like all the other demakes
I just wanted a remaster for pc
They're going to make it less gay, but also somehow more gay.
Best hope is for a Capcom style remake I suppose. I.E, a decent standalone experience, but nothing that supplants the original.
Is it confirmed?
Every even remotely amusing/memorable line removed. These lines are now achievement titles.
I expect shit from a butt that people pretend is incredible, even better than the original, because now it looks "better" and has normal controls/camera. I also expect it to almost completely remove the codec. I don't see Konami wanting to spend the money on all that voice acting.
MGS3 is also the worst selling and worst of the original MGS series and is only praised because it's most baby's first MGS game.
>I also expect it to almost completely remove the codec. I don't see Konami wanting to spend the money on all that voice acting.
They'll replace it with audio tapes.
why would konami remake mgs3 instead of just mg2 they could have it from both characters perspectives and then retcon 4
>remaking the worst MGS because that's what dudebros happened to play during their teen years
>the worst MGS
So, i'm guessing you didn't play TTS, PO, 4, PW, GZ and TPP?
>TTS was comfy
>never played PO
>4 was nice but I fucked up the stealth due to low framerates on the emulator
>PW and TPP are the same game
>GZ was good but Kojimbo fucked us over and didn't finish TPP.
I have never played a Metal Gear game and probably never will, but I just dropped by to say that this song is one of my favorite songs of all time and I'm glad the series exists despite not being interesting to me at all. I hope you guys get a good game this time. xo
It's also one of my favorite songs, good taste anon.
Arguably the best thing about Peace Walker.
That said, Calling to the Night and The Best Is Yet to Come are still the best MGS songs.
>That said, Calling to the Night and The Best Is Yet to Come are still the best MGS songs.
This.
Man, if there's one fucking game that needed a remake, it'd be Portable Ops.
To be fair, Peace Walker is basically a remake of Portable Ops, and TTP is basically a remake of Peace Walker.
Its gonna be the snoyslop formula, itll be shit.
Speaking of MGS music, I had completely memory holed this thing.
What the hell happened to Kojima during the PW era?
whatever it was it somehow was bad enough to make him rebound into having Paz raped and exploded, so
I wonder if Konami made him double down on selling the series in Japan, of if Kojima just did his classic of wanting to fuck some (voice)actress and simped them into the game.
It's incredible for a PSP game. It's mostly just the story that's pretty shit.
>I wonder if Konami made him double down on selling the series in Japan,
I don't really recall exactly when PW came out in the PSP's lifecycle, but I imagine both Sony and Konami knew that it wasn't doing overly well outside of Japan. In time to change the trajectory of PW's development? Dunno, but I can't imagine that if they knew they'd do nothing about it.
Peace Walker is a good game if you forget it's a MGS, I actually really enjoyed it, the tapes are also far better than the Codec calls in MGS 4 or the tapes of V
PW was the way it was because his son wanted to play MonHun instead, so Kojimbles in his magnanimity of daddy issues decided to pander to his son. Honestly a pretty logical next step after 4 in just about every way - oversized arsenal in 4 lends itself to MonHun type shit, and the shameless coomer shit (BB corps) flows pretty naturally into not only Paz, but also the implied yuri shit smeared all throughout PW
What the fuck is with all these demakes? Did I miss a memo or somethimg?
Whose dumb fuck decision was it to remake MGS3 before MGS1?
It's the one that's more likely to be a success, if money is the goal MGS3 is the safest option.
As Twin Snaked showed us, MGS1 has to be recreated entirely from scratch into a new game that has more or less nothing in common with the original other than story. With MGS3, you at least has a base to work from.
That said, if the game is still a full on remake with new levels and shit, it's retarded.
Also a safe bet since all the zoomers have only played TTP so they have no connection to the "modern era" games.
I fucking hate remakes.
Will they finally clear up who Pliskin was? Sick of these Pliskin = Snake gays
Is this actually happening?
I thought it was just a rumor.
yeah, just like MGSV demon edition, remember that?
Right after MGS1 remake by bluepoint teased in Demon's Souls remake
have a nice day.
Yes https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1658836533191798786 it's happening
Robinson leaked 2 years ago that Konami was outsourcing their IPs : Silent Hill for a new game and a remake of SH2, Castlevania and MGS 3 remake.
The Silent Hill games have already been confirmed, MGS is next.
Important question
will they get hayter, sutherland, or go crazy with a new VA?
Depending on the type of Remake they will either just re-use the existing VA, or get an entire new cast.
Not giving Konami money and not wasting my time pirating it, simple as
fucking why?
100% fake news, konami isnt announcing mgs3 demake until sh2 demake releases
Want to bet money? people who deny this is happening are genuinely retarded, rumors are obviously fake when there's only 1 source, but there's multiple sources now, not only that, the sources are saying it will be announced in a conference that's a few days away.
Use common sense, why would anyone risk their reputation on a rumor that will be confirmed or debunked in a few days.
Clout.
Always clout, even if temporary.
Temporary clout makes sense for a youtuber who has 100 subscribers, not already succesful industry insiders, the person who has such a low IQ to make such a short term decisions wouldn't get anywhere in the industry.
So do you think the SH leaks were pure luck?
>pure luck
Pure fucking misfortune and careless use of kotodama.
>here's a silent hill 2 remake, done by polish monkeys who never made a single good game, adjusted for modern audiences
>So do you think the SH leaks were pure luck?
It was throwing shit at a wall
>Konami Game X(Metal Gear/Silent Hill) will be announced at event Y(E3, TGS, TGA, AVN, Gay Interracial Chemsex Orgy, whatever)
and eventually it stuck.
You are genuinely retarded lol or just a troll.
Either way in 3 days it will be confirmed.
have a nice day in 3 days if it isn't.
Every single week.
See you all in the sticky in 3 days.
Livestream your suicide on twitch when it doesn't happen.
only if you do the same when it actually happens in 3 days.
not a single reputable news source outright confirmed it to be anything other than a rumor
Caramel, is that you? Where's chapter 3?
I'd prefer a HD collection for PC
No Kojima
No buy
Open world MGS3. Coms towers to uncover areas. Can capture bugs to use for cooking for health. New network of caves and tunnels. Outposts like MGSV with mini-bosses like tanks.
Every single year.
I wish all Metal Gears were on pc...
Same. I wanna replay MGS4 but I think it still emulates poorly.
It emulates fine. Just download the xof guys modded ps3 emu file. I just finished it like 40 mins ago, had maybe one crash the whole time and that was because I was too lazy to tweak one setting on my pc.
You can also use raytracing reshade with it for maximum eye candy
If MGS3 and MGS1 remake eventually comes out. I CANT wait until you fucking reyqrds start sayingMGSV is the greatest MGS game
MGS1 remake already came out.
They are "back" but it will never be like before, all their IPs are theirs in name and profits only, other companies in completely different continents will be making their games for them.
The company is souless, even more than Capcom, they will continue to make remakes and stay alive from their glory 20 years ago.
Say what you want about Kojimbo, but he's not a corp, he actually loves the process of making games and coming up with crazy ideas, Konami doesn't have anyone that can replace that to continue making MGS games, the same can be said about Konami's other IPs and their original teams.
>Konami doesn't have anyone that can replace that to continue making MGS games, the same can be said about Konami's other IPs and their original teams.
What do you mean? They have the original Metal Gear team. Like, a massive studio with over a hundred developers. But they're likely making the new Castlevania instead.
Kojima, Shinkawa and a some of his most loyal collaborators left.
Grunts are worthless without the command, they might as well be a completely new team.
Without Kojima's retarded ideas and Shinkawa's designs it just will never feel like MGS.
It comes from the fact that people use their brains and know that things will never be the same if the head is severed. A bunch of programmers and map designers aren't why MGS is popular.
It's like people who pretend that the Dune series continued after 1985, survive was proof of the incompetence of the team without the heads guiding them.
>A bunch of programmers and map designers aren't why MGS is popular.
Who said anything about programmers and map designers? We're talking directors, cutscene designers, writers, that sort of thing. The people who made Portable Ops and the OG version of Rising are running formerly Kojima Productions now. That's why Survive is so Rising-like.
Without Kojima and his goofy shit. They need to just have snake go on random espionage missions that may or may not loosely tie into the overall metal gear plot. Keep his goofy ass personality, but drop all the other stuff. Let someone do their own thing with the character.
I'd play it, but a MGS3 remake is quite literally the most boring revival of Metal Gear I can imagine.
What made the series fun is that it had big BALLS. I have my problems with Kojima, but I've always respected him for having the guts to just say "FUCK YOU THIS IS MY FRANCHISE I CAN DO WHAT I WANT WITH IT.". You got weird curve balls like Raiden in MGS2, Rising made by Platinum, Acid Card Game, Monster Hunter Peace Walker, Open World in MGSV etc; even if you didn't like it you could respect it for having BALLS. I wasn't big on Survive, but at least it was something different.
A MGS3 remake feels very safe and predictable unless they just go fullblown Evangelion rebuild with it, but FFVII remake is already kind of doing that so that idea isn't even particularly fresh anymore.
Wait is it real?
Yeah, it’s the easiest choice. I don’t think a lot of creators realize how hard a continuous story over a bunch of sequels is until they’re there and caught between a rock and a hard spot. It’s even compounded when you’re in a situation like mgs where the original creators aren’t even around anymore or have any input on the story. Kojimas gone, the easiest compromise is to keep snake, let him be the guy we all love, but put him in a new environment and setting.
Where exactly did people get the idea that Konami don't have the Metal Gear team? Did they not play Survive? How can you be this out of touch with reality?
Delusion that Metal Gear was written, directed, produced, programmed, modelled, balanced and play tested by Hideki Kojangles and voiced by David Hayter.
Do you know what kojima productions is noob?
>Do you know what kojima productions is noob?
Yea, it's Production Department 8 at Konami. They were renamed well before MGS V shipped. They're sometimes referred to internally as "ex-Kojima Productions". They had some departures and restructuring, but they team that shipped MGS V is the same team that made Survive and whatever that team is now doing.
Your replies read like a commie, proles aren't anything of value, they are there to follow orders, who gives the orders defines what the product will be like.
All of those are Grunts, and even tho the majority stayed, of each one of those sectors many left with Kojima, probably his most loyal ones, he wouldn't have been able to start Kojima Productions otherwise, and the proof of that is how Death Stranding is more like MGS V than Survive was.
Japanese people are loyal the the company they serve, but they are also loyal the the man they serve, which is why again, his most loyal collaborators left with him.
>Your replies read like a commie, proles aren't anything of value, they are there to follow orders, who gives the orders defines what the product will be like.
You do realise these people made other MGS games just fine without Kojima, right?
Yes, PO and Rising, 2 games which quality (other than gameplay) are lower than the other entries in the series, the only spin-off that is of the same quality as Kojima's MGS is Ghost Babel.
You can cope all you want, but workers are nothing without their leaders, no matter how much Marx you read about "seizing the means of production" will change the fact that without the same leader the product will never be the same, ESPECIALLY when arguably the most important of them, the ones who communicated the most with Kojima and were the ones who gave shape to his retarded ideas, left the company.
Proles are subhuman.
I hate to say this, anon, but they've handed MGS3 remake to a bunch of Canadians and they're going to BTFO Kojima's entire gameography.
(Although I kinda wonder if people from Konami are supervising.)
Bet all the money is going to there bank account and they will have to get the game to have updates from a 3rd party this is going to be like gta remakes. You cant trust indians
was PO really that bad? PW (and by extension the franchise's swan song, V) was wholly built on top of the foundation that that game laid out. storywise it tied itself back to the larger series back then way better than PW and V did too with Campbell, Null and FOXHOUND compared to lmao 2bigbosses
POs story mogs the shit out of PW and V and the OST was pretty much the best in the series. It's not a bad game, it's just MGS2/3 on the PSP gameplay wise(meaning that part isn't great).
MGR was a better sequel to MGS2 than MGS4 too as far as world building and character development go. Shit, every MGS game that had Kojima go full retard were never all that good, that bro needs a tard wrangler.
Death Stranding was alright though, the few MGS parts with del Toro and Driver guy were cool and felt like a return to form.
Rising is phenomenally well made though, while Ghost Babel is absolute dogshit on every level but the graphics. Surely you're just baiting, right?
Yeah. This is where the real problem lies. You could literally write snake as snake, just how he was with kjp, but if everything else about the cast is completely off and doesn’t fit with him, it’s a wash. You’d think this stuff would be common sense for a lot of writers, but we’re in this weird timeline where current day creators are incapable of removing their ego from the characters they write and a fictional character just ends up being a soapbox for a bunch a shit that doesn’t make for a good story and just shits all over a beloved ip/Franchise.
They should ditch Snake and the rest of the cast and focus on a new female protagonist.
>Expectations?
I expect Konami to scrub Kojima's name from everything and act like he had nothing to do with the original.
MGS3 got
>3rd person camera
>Metal Gear Online
>Peace Walker controls
>retroactively made itself the single most important title of the franchise in-universe
>now getting a remake
where's the love for other MGSes? MGS2 literally has nothing despite being the best one
>MGSes
Fake fan who has never played the best game which is MG2 solid snake on the msx
Let's all just dig up some 50 year old hardware that was only produced in one run with a total of about 200,000 sold
Retard, you can play it on ps2 or ps3 with mgs3
All the soul will be removed
Your average remake fails to capture the little details of the original. Imagine a game like MGS3 known for the absurd amount of small details, they’re going to ignore a majority of them. It’s going to be one of the most hated remakes ever, it’ll redefine soullessness
name 5 (five) small details
here's 25
One thing that bothers me about 5 is the water barrels. You shoot the bottom part water falls out. You shoot the top part after all the water fallout water still fallout. Mgs 2 had small details.
You're right but it'll have a 97 critic rating on Metacritic
>being made by Virtuos the Chinese developer
>staff consists of people who did art work for horizon zero dawn and the last of us part 2 which is what made Konami contract them for the remake
>mgs3 is being remade in the Decima engine under PS studios. Will launch as a PS5 exclusive, PC to come a few months later. Xbox not even being considered
>aiming for extreme photorealism with the foliage and characters. When in first person view while sneaking, the player can see in the grass tiny bugs and animals crawling around. the team is aiming to make Big Boss the highest fidelity looking video game character ever made.
>borrows gameplay from Horizon including stealth and melee combat. Snake can do large swinging kicks and punches.
>camouflage, food, medicine are all returning but are now controlled in game instead of the pause menu. Codec calls also take place in game on the HUD, and will not pause the game during combat
>level design is nearly 1:1 with a few changes as the team mainly consisted of graphical artists programmers and animators, with few actual level designers or creatives
>no returning voice actors, Kojima will not be mentioned
>snake eater will be sung by Sam smith.
Not my post, from Ganker leak larper, so take with a grain of salt obviously.
made by Virtuos the Chinese developer
I'm pretty sure it's being made by their Canadian/US branches.
>>mgs3 is being remade in the Decima engine under PS studios. Will launch as a PS5 exclusive, PC to come a few months later. Xbox not even being considered
Nobody would use Decima Engine. Unreal Engine is a given. Still, you're just repeating what they said so no diss.
design is nearly 1:1 with a few changes as the team mainly consisted of graphical artists programmers and animators, with few actual level designers or creatives
This is impossible because MGS3's level design is hilariously narrow and restricted.
That there will FINALLY be a PC release.
>implying it's going to be faithful
>Implying it's going to be
PO's story is a braindead drivel fanficiton that explains inane details like etymology of Frank Jaeger's name, the gameplay is MGS3 controls with half the buttons on a portable console, final boss fight is in cinematic 3 frames per second you see a guy called GENE yell memes at you and do phase shift from zoe. due to popular demand Sokolov makes an unexpected comeback
Whatever braindead nonesense poops comes out with is canonized in MGS4, but if you care about canon in MGS you're a certified midwit.
>storywise it tied itself back to the larger series back then way better than PW and V did too with Campbell, Null and FOXHOUND compared to lmao 2bigbosses
Wow, it did the exact thing MGS3 was set in the 60's in order to avoid, what an accomplishment, glad it exists to make the world suffocating and incestuous so that everything spanning over half a century revolves around the same dozen people.
Since they were forced to make more games, MGS3's finale twist obviously had to tie back into the story established up to that point but the way 4 and V went and did it were a bit too retarded for the exact same reason you brought up. poops was a lesser evil compared to everything that came after it.
>FINALLY
we've had it for quite a while lil fella
1:1 remake is bad and they need to take liberties like capcom did with re4.
MGS3 total gameplay time without watching cutscenes totalizes close to only 5 hours. Thats really short. They need to increase gameplay by extending areas.
Also codec calls need to have a feature thay play as you are playing the game. If not that, codec calls need to be completely skipable and neglectable.
But the remake of 4 was ass
MGSV is a really awful game but the controls of your character are very tight. Using the FOX engine with the controls but it's MGS3 would make it better than the original imo. One of the rare remakes I want. REmake 2 was also great and REmake 3 would be great if they didn't cut half of the game out.
>playing a Kojima game without Kojima
My dude, I'm one of the few people who 100% death standing. There is no way I will play this.
Shut up normie retard. Kojima wasnt the only person working on mgs
suck a dick? maybe? its his baby
Fuck off, as an artist, integrity of vision means everything to me. I won't play a literal stain upon someone's name I actually respect.
post your twitter
i expect it to not actually be a thing, because there's been a new mgs3 remake rumor every month or so for well over ten years.
i'm not falling for it until konami themselves make an official announcement, and even then i'd be skeptical towards whether the game would ever finish development or if it would be cancelled.
I expect it to only have one language option
>English
>except when the characters are speaking Russian or Chinese
MAXIMUM immersion
The absolute height of pistol aesthetics. Why is the MK 23 so rare in games where you can choose your sidearm?
>jungle
>in Russia
Do you know where and what siberian rainforests are?
Remake 2 instead because 3 has always been the weakest and least necessary game in the full series
JUST GIVE US THE PACHINKO VERSIONS
3 things, give me the real jungle instead of small linear corridors (this doesn't mean open world, just bigger stealth sandbox spaces), put everything that was cut from original mgs3 vision because shitty ps2 hw, kojima autism or lack of resources, bring back fukushima and make him the director.
unreal engine 5, will have shader compilation stutter on pc
The only reason Konami will ever touch the MGS saga again is to reboot it and pozz it with ESG funds.
Otherwise it's dead, Jim.
ANOTHER SHITTY DEMAKE
If you expect this shit to be real just because some fat fucks on Twitter said so, you're a fucking dumbass. Accept that the franchise is over and let it go.
But why pass up on some easy cash? You got the survival horror genre which is niche and totally dominated by Resident Evil, churning out 5 to 15 million copies for Capcom per sequel. And then you got the stealth genre, which is basically dead right now, but Konami could easily rack up 10 million sales of MGS3R without even trying.
Fox engine is king
My expectations are they're going to remove some of the more 'sensitive' things which will severely impact my thoughts on buying it.
Inb4 they remove the torture scene, they will make eva and the boss way less sexy
Honestly dont remake 3...
I don’t generally care all that much when they make female characters “less” sexy if it makes sense and if the character design from the beginning just felt like lazy coom bait. But Eva is literally supposed to be a 60s Bond girl, the whole point is that she’s a sexy spy.
If they change her to make her look more homely then they are actual retards
Oh they will
I think that stuff like TLOU and RDR2 have made it normal for these kind of story games to have blood and gore in them, if anything I expect things to be more explicit and less cartoony, MGS V, the series last installment also had gore and more violence in it than normally and that's the audience they are probably trying to grab since it was a success.
About Eva, if the Chinks at the HQ of Virtuous are in control of this, I expect at least some sort of clevage to still be present, if this is in the hands of any Anglo offices then yes everything will be censored.
woke shit added into it. gameplay slowed and dumbed down. original will still be the objectively better option to enjoy the game.
hayter won't voice snake
>hayter
Who?
>woke shit added into it.
The game with gayass Volgin and Raikov?
yeah, they will add non whites, and women will boss the mc around. that's how blackrock wants games to be made
Underrated shitpost
There are fags in it but they aren't exactly portrayed in a good light. Aside from being the comically evil villains, their male bislut ways are aggressive. If anything it might be removed.
havent played much of this series except back on ps1 but why are they only remaking 3? wouldnt it make sense to remake 1 and 2 first?
>wouldnt it make sense to remake 1 and 2 first?
Nobody really cares about those games. MGS V is the only MGS game normies have played, and MGS3 can be remade into something resembling MGS V.
thank you for explaining.
3 is the best that's why its mgs1 if it was on PS2 in a jungle
3's story is very standalone and also works as the first game chronologically. So future remakes like MGS1 would and could add more callbacks that the OG didn't have
We already had MGS1 remake, it's called Twin Snake.
I've been thinking about it for the last 9 years:
-Remaking 1 is kinda safe since it would probably sell a couple millions, but still a huge gamble, there's A LOT of changes that would need to be made to the map for it to work with more modern controls, and investing all that money and effort into something that maybe people would hate and cast the studio that's remaking it as evil isn't worth the risk
-2 is a huge risk for the same controversy of when it came out, Raiden isn't your average hero, he's whiny and immature, and half the game codec calls are him discussing his relationship problems, even if they remade 1 first and 2 after that it would have a likelyhood of tanking the studio again
- 3 is the best bet, it's the "newest" one of the trilogy, gameplay changes were already made to the 3DS version and it still worked, it's the fan favorite even tho it wasn't the best selling of the 3, and it's the most likely one to generate sales.
MGS 3 is the easiest to remake and safest to invest money into, if that is succesful they will probably try 1, and maybe later 2.
Reminder that Virtuous is a Studio that has never made a game entirely on their own, they usually only help studios with models and other stuff, this has to be a hit or their dreams of becoming a more recognized studio will probably tank, but again these are Chinks and Canadians we are talking about so we can't really trust their reasoning or quality of product.
Remaking 1 and Peace Walker is what they should do. Maybe Portable Ops too.
They already remade 1.
I dropped the original since the gameplay was too outdated. IF they're making this in the vein of MGSV I am going to cum so fucking hard and I might even pay when it comes on PC.
Kiefer snake is gone but he will be replaced by Craig snake.
Craig who?
Why would he play an American guy in his 20s?
>he hasn't seen knives out
The Fox Engine circlejerk is some of the most inane dumb shit I've ever seen online. There's nothing special about it whatsoever, it does open world games poorly, it is fucking blown the fuck out by Rockstar, even fucking ubisoft, the open world in Assassin's Creed 1 has way more detail and life to it than MGSV does.
What people mix up is game design, they think "oh emergent gameplay must mean the engine is good!" no it's just the fucking design of the game. The engine is nothing special whatsoever, it's fucking janky and buggy as shit and it was designed with hardware from 2005/6 in mind, of course it runs on your toaster, it was made with hardware from 2005 in mind
game engines are iterative so the fact it was designed for 2006 hw means very little, also if it's such a bad open world engine how come it can handle monstrously complex scripting in an open world environment and react open endedly to the player's actions
>remake
>without kojimbo
into the fucking trash pile it goes, you can't remake a masterpiece motherfuckers you can only demake it
screencap this post if you want and repost after release
it will never match the original in quality nor soul but i will still play it because its my favorite game of all time.
Grown adults playing dress up what's the world become birth rate decline is high all over.
Maybe it's time to put the toys away
>t. virgin loser
The dirty little secret is that MGS3 was never good.
MGS 3 is good, it's just not a typical Kojima game, it isn't really trying to convey any sort of deep message like his other games, it's just a GOO Bond game, but that doesn't make it "not good".
MGS3 completely mogs all other MGS by a long mile in every category (arguably V had better basic controls). It only filters the people that expected Kojumbo and instead got a dadcore spy thriller with slim fantasy on top.
I wish they kept the design, cutscene direction and soundtrack from the original, there's no reason to replace any of it.
With controls and seamless, expanded levels it might be perfect.
Mgs3 vanilla sucks so much after subsistence version the fixed camera is removed from mgs permanently
To be fair I only played subsistence which is how everyone has played since its release.
I sincerely hope it isn't a 1:1 remake, I hope they go way bigger with the jungle setting and don't even bother with accurately recreating areas. Say you can have a rope bridge but how the surrounding area looks can be completely different, obviously you'd still include smaller areas like Rassvet in the game but just redesign how they look, their surroundings, etc. If they just copy the original title it's going to feel lackluster. I love the original title but I'd rather play that then a remake that tries to copy it exactly
I hope it controls better. The OG games is great, but one of its biggest faults is that it controls like absolute ass.
>sheeeeeeeeeit, Snake...
>I done been waitin' on yo' ass... a long-ass time, fool...
>I went into space... didn't see no borders an' sheeeit...
This game had unplayable controls and count lclunky gameplay when I tried it back in 2007. And it beared no resemblance to the first game. So I shut it off
>first game
The first game is top down and 8bit, games are meant to progress
EVA will be black, guaranteed
There's a 50/50 chance EVA will be played by this chick
I think The Boss being black would be more triggering to the average Ganker user
The Boss fighting in the war pregnant DLC
Israel DLC proving that the boss bullshit talk before death isnt true
God i wish Kojima had done a The Boss prequel game
Overused just rape snake at non 30 years old now that kojima isnt in konami to stop it
It doesn't exist.
You are all once again falling for a fucking fake story that has existed for over a decade.
If the remake makes MGS3 a over the shoulder sony walking simulator then its not worth it, unless they keep the game the exact same and update the visuals then I dont think its worth it.
>If the remake makes MGS3 a over the shoulder sony walking simulator
You meant "when". There is no universe where that isn't what it will be.
Remake literally not needed and a waste of resources. Just remake MG1 and 2 for fucks sake.
>Expectations?
About 25 fps on GTX 4090 and running out of vram.
so just like pcsx2
Pachinko version of MGS3 still the undisputed king of MGS3 remakes lmao
No kojima so i expect that The Boss say "i am a strong woman, jack you are a weak white man" 7 or 8 times in the game
If they do a 1:1 with new gameplay, improved what the phantom pain do right and fixed what do wrong, then i ok with that
I really want the entire saga in steam, is a pain in ass to connect the ps3 to play 1-3 and guns of the patriot
He won't actually show up or be mentioned by name, but there will be some unsubtle reference to Skull Face being just off-screen the entire time.
Sigint will be a more important character, because black. He's not going to join the action or anything, but he'll have a bigger role than providing Tech Tips.
They'll ruin the ladder sequence because they know its meme status. They'll fuck it up by presenting the whole moment with too much theatricality and sweeping dramatic camera movement.
Girlboss Para-Medic
No Sutherland and no Hayter. They'll get a no name voice actor who can do a passable Sutherland impersonation.